MO Dem Lawmaker Wants To Regulate Thanksgiving

Free people can not be allowed to make their own value judgments.  That’s what Democrats are for and what fuels their existence.

A Missouri lawmaker, from the party of free abortions for all, has decided the evils of “profit and greed” must be removed from Thanksgiving.  By force of law.  Never mind the fact that businesses are gasping for survival in our Obama economy and sales during the holiday season can account for 40% of annual revenue.

According to local ABC station kait8,

A Missouri Democratic lawmaker is trying to stop “black Friday” shopping from ruining the Thanksgiving dinners of workers.

House member Jeff Roorda, of Barnhart, plans legislation that would prohibit retail stores from opening on Thanksgiving.

He has dubbed it the “Thanksgiving Family Protection Act” and says the holiday should be about families and not about profit or greed. He says Thanksgiving should not become “black Friday eve.”

Restaurants, gas stations and drug stores would be exempt from forced closure. Roorda says some other states also require businesses to close on that day.

He says retailers’ efforts to out-do one another has left fewer hours for workers to spend time with their families on Thanksgiving.

What a great idea.  Let the retail stores bleed while the Internet grabs all the sales.  And when the retailers go out of business they can spend even more quality family time at home.  Permanently.

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  • John

    Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
    -— C.S. Lewis

  • Sam Stone

    And what and who is next? Police, fire fighters, doctors and nurses? Gas station employees? Food store workers? All work on thanksgiving.

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  • I actually like the idea. Until the 70s most of middle America had blue laws which closed most businesses on Sundays. It was great and encouraged family time. Today you are likely to see even local Little League teams scheduling practices or games on Sunday morning. Schools regularly schedule rehearsals et al on Sunday nights. Yes, leave Thanksgiving as a time to be thankful! People will still shop on Friday and it will not eat into anyone’s profits. The facts have never shown that businesses suffer from not being open on Thanksgiving. If Thanksgiving is not special, why not just allow businesses to be open all day on Christmas? Where’s your argument against that??

  • gastorgrab

    “………Protection Act” <—— This is a justification for 99.999% of everything that liberals do.


    "This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector."

    – Plato

  • shadow

    Next thing ya’ know they are going to be telling us when bars have to close and where and between what hours liquor can’t be sold. It’s a slippery slope, I tell ya.

  • gastorgrab

    How long before we see a ‘Liberal-American Protection Act’ that “protects” us from the opinions of conservatives?

    How long before government “protects” us from the second amendment?

    How long before government “protects” us from POTENTIAL criminals by locking up people that it considers dangerous, but cannot prove them to be?

  • donh

    but the abortion clinics can still offer holiday sales …holiday lottery jack pot greed A OK…bowl game gambling, strip club specials …BUT NO MALL SHOPPING…and the answer to midnight mall mobs isn’t to cut EBT card free stuff give away…but punish the retail work sector paying for all the hand outs.

  • Gregor

    #4 Dwight says … “If Thanksgiving is not special, why not just allow businesses to be open all day on Christmas? Where’s your argument against that??”

    I’m sorry Dwight, but are you aware of a law somewhere that prohibits stores or businesses from opening on Christmas? What the Hell are you babbling about? Many businesses are open on Christmas. I happen to be working on Thanksgiving Day AND Christmas Day and I feel extremely blessed to have my job – especially one that pays me double-time and a half for it. I am perfectly capable of arranging our family celebrations around my work schedule while at the same time fulfilling the requirements of the job, that I CHOSE to accept, and which pays for my family’s needs.

    There are many people out there who WANT to work on these days because it allows them to provide extra for their families. I guess you feel it’s YOUR right to make a decision that will cost some families thousands of dollars.

    Here’s an idea. How about allowing the workers to make that decision. You either want a job, or you don’t. You either choose to accept that job, or you choose not to. How about that?

    I happen to enjoy the little bits of freedom that I have left. Please do me a favor and keep you own personal desires as your own and allow me to make my own choices. Thank you.

  • RedStateGal

    I’m a conservative, and I like this idea. Thanksgiving should be about family time and not about greed. People who work in Malls, and Best Buy, etc. will be on an even footing with each other, and the Christmas rush will simply be postponed for a few hours. NOT to even mention that maybe this will cut down on violence on Thanksgiving of all days.

    There are already laws — LOTS of them — that infringe on my rights and my freedom so I feel no guilt in advocating for a law that I like.

  • Gregor

    #10 RedStateGal says … ” Thanksgiving should be about family time and not about greed. People who work in Malls, and Best Buy, etc. will be on an even footing with each other, and the Christmas rush will simply be postponed for a few hours. NOT to even mention that maybe this will cut down on violence on Thanksgiving of all days.

    There are already laws — LOTS of them — that infringe on my rights and my freedom so I feel no guilt in advocating for a law that I like.”

    Hmmm … well then, how about we pass a law that makes it illegal for television networks and broadcasters to send out a signal on Thanksgiving and Christmas Day? How about we make it illegal for sports teams to play on these days? How about we make it illegal for people to travel on these days? Shut down the airlines, trains, subways, buses, and make it illegal for people drive on the roads on these days? After all … “Thanksgiving should be about family time” and people should stay home with their families. After all … with everyone home with their families, like they should be, “maybe this will cut down on violence.”

    Good ideas. Thanks for looking out for me and my family. Not sure what I’d do without you there to protect me.

  • Leigh

    Red State Gal, I am not sure what kind of conservative you are if your first impulse is to back the “there ought to be a law” crowd on this one. Too often we scream for a law for something which is not a necessity of government. If you want to win the argument against “greed” (or as some may say, staying in business) at the post thanksgiving rush, start with yourself, win the culture war by leading by an example, not by taking away the other’s right to engage in an activity which is lawful (per se), a free act of commerce, by a knowing and consenting person. Don’t want your kids to shop, curtail their allowance for a week, or refuse to drive to a mall that day, or plan a family outing. Invite friends, which would keep them from shopping. If you really believe that strongly in it, organize a local park event (not a shopping fair) for people to have a fun alternative to shopping. But don’t get on the “let’s pass a law for the simple self righteousness of it.” Down that path be dragons.

  • Patty

    Darn if you do, Darn if you do. Catch 22. Oh, hell, I’ll stop making quotes and just say it.

    This nation is greedy, make money, don’t make money, who is to say. Our we giving thanks, our we truly understanding the true meaning of why we are all are here and why do we continue to do the crazy things we do.

    Black Friday seems to be a Fixture now. Once you get that snowball rolling, you just can’t stop it.

    So, stampede will be a traditional and stores will profit greatly and then the consumers will wonder how they will pay it all off come January.

  • Patty

    Internet or Store, the bill will be do sometime.

  • theblackdude

    omg when is the war going to start. I cant take this sh*t anymore. lol Damn freedoms dead.

  • walknot

    You would have to shut down the whole weekend, not just Friday. Besides, hourly workers don’t get the day off with pay. MANY depend on that day to provide them with that extra money needed through the holidays. Especialy those who depend on tips.

    I manage a mall and I spend crazy hours in preperation for that day not to mention 10-12hrs THAT day starting at Midnight. I also know the numbers and here is a little knowledge for ya…MANY, even the big named retailers depend on that day to make their quarter or even their year. I can’t tell you how many times I hear retailers during the first- third quarters tell me how much they wish they has a “Black Friday” for every quarter. Just one day where they can make up for a crapy month so they can hire or keep an extra hand or two. For as much as I hate to see it be true, Black Friday is critical.

    Quite honestly; as long as you have Christmas, you will have a day like this at some point during the season as everyone wants to buy gifts for their friends and family.

  • Nelle

    Those of us who want a few holidays that are set apart from all the other days for peaceful time with our families are now in the minority. I’ve always enjoyed seeing empty parking lots everywhere on Christmas, Easter and Thanksgiving, because it is a clear announcement to all that there is a time when we can put commerce on hold and focus on the most important things.
    I’ve enjoyed the fact that all our relatives, except for those with essential jobs, are able to come together at least once or twice a year, free of work stress and ready to enjoy each other’s company.
    It would be nice if we could all agree to hold on to the traditions we’ve loved. But now most of us would rather retain the shopping option. That means that Thanksgiving and Christmas will be just like other days, but with the added stress of preparing a special meal, if you choose to. Some of your relatives will be shopping, and those who work in retail will be working. Eventually there will seem to be no reason why office workers and government employees shouldn’t work on those days, and have “flexible” holidays to take whenever it suits them. If you want to get them all together you’ll have to plan and pull off a family reunion sometime. So enjoy this Christmas, and think about how late you really want to shop on Christmas Eve, and whether you want to order online on Christmas day. Because the more we do it, the sooner retailers will tell us they “have to” be open every day of the year.

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  • The only thing Democrats know about Thanksgiving is when Obama squats they gobble…

  • greenfairie

    Some of these replies exemplify why I have no hope for this country. Too many pea brains who will sign on to more government control if it’s for “a good cause.”

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  • SoulardconSERVATIVE

    Good one Cutler’s Bad Thumb!

  • how about we let the people do whatever they want?
    why the hell do we need more laws?
    if someone wants to spend the day with their family thats their business.
    tell you what, those that support this…do you also support forbidding selling alcohol on sundays?
    why not?


  • kay

    Sorry Jim.
    I dislike that it has to be legislated but that video of people choking each other for $10 off a phone made in China when the stores should be closed until Friday morning – I gotta agree.

    Yeah, the crowd is going to act like that Friday morning but Thanksgiving Day is about giving Thanks to God.

    It started here with a grocery store being open in case people needed something for the dinner – they’d be open from 8am – 10am. Then the other grocery stores opened but made it to 11am. Finally they called a halt when it got to 2pm and decided to shut the stores down totally on Thanksgiving but then came the big box stores who decided to open at midnight on Friday. Then it was 11:30pm. Now its 11pm.

    1 day – plan ahead for the food and wait until Friday to go out and shop. Until then? Sit and be with your family or if you don’t have them close by – go do charitable work or watch tv or PRAY.

    Yeah, I think 1 day is fine to not shop.

    But again – I hate the legislating part of it. Wish the stores would just stop by themselves.

  • kay

    It should be noted that FDRoosevelt made it so that Thanksgiving was on the THIRD Thursday of November instead of the 4th Thursday so that it gave MORE time for shopping to occur and help the economy during the depression.

    That Executive Order was overturned by legislation and Thanksgiving was put back to its normal 4th November.

    Seems we were ok with that legislated commercial change that shrunk the time for shopping.

  • FurryGuy

    #20 December 4, 2012 at 12:58 pm
    greenfairie commented:

    Seeing reputed conservatives here demanding that the government force people to be moral, family-oriented. Like enforcing morality will work, yeah right. What is the difference between the parties now anyway? Both want to control the masses, the sole difference is in what direction they want the masses to go for the slaughter.

    No wonder so many voters bid for Socialism in the last election, overt and implied.

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    I dislike that it has to be legislated but that video of people choking each other for $10 off a phone made in China when the stores should be closed until Friday morning – I gotta agree.

    There is absolutely no reason for the government to be getting involved with this at all. If people want to choke themselves for a phone made in China on Thanksgiving Day, let them. The only people for whom Thanksgiving will be ruined will be them only. Those of us that are unwilling to play along can simply ignore the dumbassery.

  • Sasja

    Time was when stores were not open on Thanksgiving in my neck of the woods, except for some little convenience store. I don’t remember football being a big deal either. Everyone knew there would be no shopping that day and spent the time with friends and family, thanking God for being privileged to live in the greatest country on earth. Time was also spent visiting shut-ins and seeing to the poor (not the lazy back then). Now hardly anyone cares about the lonely widow or widower down the street. Why bother? Some government hack is assigned to that task, right? Government. We care so you don’t have to.

    I see people complain about how the “government” wants to control everything. When we were a republic, the “government” was the people. Not some snarky bureaucrat. Over time, we have decided that we, as a people, cannot govern ourselves and slowly, but surely, turned this duty over to a centralized authority.

    We also have to face the fact that Thanksgiving is no big deal to alot of people anymore and with what the children are being taught in the government’s propaganda centers, the true reason for Thanksgiving, like Christmas, will be lost.

  • FurryGuy

    #24 December 4, 2012 at 1:19 pm
    kay commented:

    So you are all for the might of government to determine how someone can exercise their religious freedom, eh? Sharia Law does that in Islamic countries, are you sure you want Religious Police here?

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  • Gregor

    #24 kay commented:

    “I dislike that it has to be legislated but that video of people choking each other for $10 off a phone made in China when the stores should be closed until Friday morning – I gotta agree.

    Yeah, the crowd is going to act like that Friday morning but Thanksgiving Day is about giving Thanks to God.”

    So now we’re making it a law that people spend Thanksgiving giving thanks to God? Really? I’m a Christian and that’s what I do, by choice, but apparently, you believe you have the right to force everyone in the U.S. to do that? You do realize that not everyone believes in God, right? You do realize that not everyone gives “thanks” the same way, right? But that’s okay with you. You know best and you’re perfectly fine forcing every person in the U.S. to do it the same way you do.

    Mighty Fascist of you.

  • Sasja

    elliot. Which article?

  • Joanne

    Maybe employees knowing that they might have to work Thanksgiving eve is part of their choice to work at the store or not. The government just has to poke its nose in everywhere.

  • jb

    Free meand “free.” That’s it.

    Politicians and commneters that do not grasp that simple fact ought to STFU and learn about freedom, instead of imagining those of us who do understand and LIVE in freedom don’t know what we believe in.

    Idiots always vote for, or advocate, someone to tell them what to do.

    That says much about their ability to reason as a rational human being Which is to say …

    Nothing. Sheesh!

  • bluemount

    I’m a nurse. I had to work 12 hrs on Thanksgiving and 12 hrs on Black Friday. (It was my turn this year to work both days). Maybe the Feds can pass a law that people not be allowed to overeat or over drink on Thanksgiving so that the ER does not become crowded with patients who are ill from both and thus make my holidays very busy. . While they are at it, make sure people, especially the elderly, are not allowed outiside in winter so they don’t get Pneumonia. That too causes the ER to get very busy. I could go on and on but these complainers of having to work on a holiday should be grateful. Next year is my turn to work both Christmas Eve and Christmas Day! But I’m very grateful to have a job!

  • agent

    I wish they would, w have commercialized Thanksgiving and Christmas so much it has become disgraceful!

  • Highlander

    Reading the comments here from all you supposed conservatives, advocating for laws and government control over businesses and the hours they keep is enough to make me want to puke. It’s no wonder we’re in the mess we’re in. Principles and common sense have become a thing of the past. You morons deserve a government that bleeds you dry and enslaves you if you can’t stand by the principles of freedom and liberty long enough to realize that giving that sort of control to the government is a mistake. Just exactly WHO gets to decide which businesses stay open, and which ones must close? You?

    If you want to stay home with your families on holidays (as I do) they STAY HOME, but don’t make the mistake of abandoning your principles in a selfish and misguided attempt to keep others from abandoning theirs…

  • SeniorD

    Hey, when did a Demodonk get religion? We had Blue Laws back home in Buffalo when I was growing up. Couldn’t find an open store if we forgot some dinner ingredient.

  • malclave

    Why are we limiting this to just businesses?

    When I was in the Army, I often had duty on holidays (and I didn’t even get time-and-a-half!). When I got out, and went to work for a hospital, I still often had to work holidays. At my current job, I don’t have to go in (usually), but I’m on call at least half the time.

    Why can’t people in the military, hospitals, fire and police departments, etc. have the day off, too?

    (I really hope I don’t need a sarcasm tag here)

  • Arch

    Thanksgiving is our celebration of capitalism over communism. Colonists, who nearly starved under the communal strictures of the Mayflower Compact, established a free market and reaped plentiful rewards.

    Workers (except the military) are free to quit their jobs. If Thanksgiving at home is more important than your job, find another before the third Thursday of November or negotiate with your employer. But if you just quit, don’t expect the taxpayer to pay your unemployment benefits.

  • Danceswithtruth

    “Free people can not be allowed to make their own value judgments. That’s what Democrats are for and what fuels their existence.” – Except when it comes to abortion and controceptives. For everything else, there must be a rule or law.

    Just where in the Constitution does it say the government is to engage in these types of activities?

    Personal accountability is where it starts and where it must stay. If you think Thanksgiving and Christmas is too commercialized then affect it by staying home and not shopping. To create yet another law to forbid free choice is to overstep. Our personal liberties are dwindling and yet some here are willing to give away even more of our personal liberties. I’m not.

    I chose to spend time with family. I chose not to shop. I chose not to force my feelings, opinions, religion or tolerance on someone else. It’s high time others, including our government followed suit. If you chose to spend time shopping, so be it. If you chose to get into a fight over a “thing”, so be it. Each choice has consequences, be they good or bad. Stop trying to dictate every personal decision. If you want to fight for something fight for personal responsibility and accountability. Fight for individuals owning their choices, instead of everyone becoming responsible for them. Stop growing the government intrusion in our lives.

  • charlie…

    ..I don’t think Thanksgiving is about thanking the government for anything, it’s basically a christian religious event.And the same for Christmas . What business is it to the government anyway. Maybe they should pay more attention to , oh , I don’t know , maybe the economy ,and the security of diplomats ,, and citizens. Anybody want to take any bets on that happening ?

  • M2 carbine

    I’m all for levity with holidays. God knows the manifistations of socialism are doom and gloom and work/labor camps.

    I’m also all for anything within reason that promotes graditude and thankfullness.

    How does it figure though that greed in the Democrat mind only exists at corporate head quarters?

    Democrat Jeff Roodha has been unionized and is obviously using buisness bashing anti business union rhetoric while appealing to peoples emotions. The guy is campaigning early for himself and something else just as dubious as himself.