Webster Police released this information today on the shooter who killed two firemen in New York this morning: The suspect, William Spengler, 62 was arrested in 1980 for killing his grandmother and served time until 1998.

The Huffington Post reported:

Police in New York state say a man who ambushed firefighters had served 17 years for manslaughter in the death of his grandmother.

Webster Police Chief Gerald Pickering says 62-year-old William Spengler was found dead of a self-inflicted gunshot to the head.

Police say he set fire to a car and house to lure firefighters to his house on the shore of Lake Ontario early Monday.

When firefighters arrived, he opened fire, probably with a rifle. Two firefighters died at the scene and two others were hospitalized. A fifth first responder was injured.

Police don’t know a motive yet.

62-year-old William Spengler was found dead of a self-inflicted gunshot to the head.




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  1. Sounds like a good reason to ban guns to me /sarc

  2. Manslaughter is not murder. Correct your headline please.

  3. Well, Matthew, you can try to spin it anyway that will make you feel better, but taking the life of another is murder. It matters not what some DA and defense attorney plea bargain.

  4. what an awful awful story. Those poor firemen. This is such a heart wrenching tragedy.

  5. With all the gun laws in New York, where did he get the gun????

  6. Following the lefts logic, this is an easy fix:

    Ban fire and any device that could be used to make one.


    All BS’ing aside…………….

    Prayers to the families. Far to many lost to senseless tragedy in the last few days.

  7. There are days when reading about these terrible crimes becomes more than one can bear. To keep from becoming cynical and bitter, it helps to see the beauty and love that can come from unlikely (to some) sources. This video is one of those times. And some say that dogs have no soul.

    Pray for the families of the fallen and keep God foremost in your heart and mind.


  8. Hmmm… apparently he wasn’t sufficiently rehabilitated.
    So much for progressive penal policies.

  9. @#2… I don’t think Grandma cared about the semantics… she’s still just as dead.

  10. …and this is why you either execute killers or never let them out. Period.

    Naw, we need the prison beds for folks caught with 7 grams of weed. Insane.

  11. I have to ask because I’m not sure, but do these sort of things happen with a Republican in office? How many does this make for Obama?

  12. Well, well, with a state with strict gun laws HOW did he get his gun???

  13. #2 December 24, 2012 at 2:06 pm
    a liberal doofus drooled:

    Dead is dead, only lawyers and the guilty care about legal distinctions splitting hairs ad infinitum. Manslaughter and murder are both classified as homicide.

    You have got to be an ambulance-chasing defense lawyer to be so offended by the post title.

    FYI, there is a vast difference between an attorney and a lawyer.

  14. Manslaughter is mitigated murder. The headline can stay.

  15. In liberal New York with strict gun control, a guy who served 17 years in prison somehow was able to get his hands on a gun. And I don’t see a mother to blame here for buying the gun he used.

    This story will get swept under the rug because the “nuts will find a gun no matter how strict the law is” argument is tough to invalidate here.

  16. The question is not how did he get the gun, but as a convicted felon in NYS why did he have a gun?

  17. I have to ask because I’m not sure, but do these sort of things happen with a Republican in office?

    No. When Reagan was in office, there was no crime, no poor, nobody had to pay taxes, money grew on trees and all was good in the world.

  18. As to how he got the gun in liberal NY, it’s easy when all you have to do is go to another state with fewer regulations or to a gun show with none.

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