Adam Lanza Was the Awkward Guy Who Stuck Out – Newtown Police Say “He Kinda Flew in Under the Radar” (Video)

Bill Hemmer from America’s Newsroom was in Newtown today prior to the first funerals for the Sandy Hook School shooting victims. Newtown residents told Hemmer that Adam Lanza was the awkward guy who stuck out. The local police told Hemmer that Adam Lanza “kinda flew in under the radar.”

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  • Bigkahuna

    How did he stick out and fly under the radar. It’s one or the other if his statements are correct

  • It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    Joe Scarborough joins the anti-gun coalition!! He is very reasonable man and even he is questioning the wisdom of the 2nd amendment. Times are changing FAST

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/scarborough-questions-his-libertarian-approach-after-newtown-ideologies-of-my-past-career-no-longer-relevant/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mediaite%2FClHj+%28Mediaite%29

  • Sasja

    Asked that same question myself. How does one stick out and yet fly under the radar?

  • chris

    Hmmm so which is it? Did he fly under the
    Radar or was he sticking out? Does anyone think before they speak?

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  • Patty

    #3 December 17, 2012 at 10:25 am
    Bigkahuna commented:

    Thought the same thing.

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    Joe Scarborough joins the anti-gun coalition!!

    That’s because Joe Scarborough IS A PHONY, and a fair amount of people here have been saying that all along. He’s just another of those idiots for whom principle is something that changes direction with the political winds.

  • Look-Out

    Somebody above’s a little slow…

    Scarborough loves him his multimillion dollar gig.

  • Stella Baskomb

    “Does anyone think before they speak?”

    Different people, different motivations. Seems the police are saying he flew under the radar. THEIR radar, for sure.

    But it’s “Newtown residents” who are apparently saying he “stuck out”. I have NO idea what the motivation may be for these “Newtown residents” to speak out now. Their hindsight is pretty good, huh?

    But what did they DO about it when it might have made a difference?

    If they are so smart and so sure, why didn’t they raise their concerns weeks or months ago?

    IMO, speaking out now is of no use to anyone – but it might have been useful if they had spoken up even 5 days ago.

  • Look-Out

    I’m agreeing with BlacqueJacques, btw..

  • Dave-O

    Stella #11 nails it.

    Police are in full CYA mode now, saying “he flew under the radar” – i.e, don’t blame them.

    citizens are also in CYA mode saying that “he stood out” so much that anyone (namely police) could have/should have seen it, i.e., don’t blame them.

    It would be nice if somebody took some responsibility – obviously, the shooter, Adam Lanza, is directly responsible – and so is his mother. Where was his dad throughout all this? Living with his girlfriend down in Stamford?

  • Dave-O

    #13 I meant to say, while Adam Lanza is directly responsible – he is now dead. And so is his mother. His mother, while not directly responsible, might have been able to help him if she didn’t have the habit of being so private about the issue. And I would think that Adam’s adult brother and his father could have/should have played a more direct involved role in this young man’s life – a life that seems bereft of positive male influence.

  • Maudie N Mandeville

    I imagine he did “fly under the radar” if his mother was hiding his problems. This was another without a father figure in his life.

  • ★FALCON★

    I don’t believe this Lanza kid was flying under any radar. Everyone here knows people that are totally stupid odd and you avoid ’em like the plague. You know they could go off, but don’t know when, nor want to provoke it.

    What could have been done? Not much until he committed a crime, unfortunately. And he did, a massive crime that has nutballs on the left exploiting this crime like the totalitarians they truly are.

  • shadow

    How does one stick out and yet fly under the radar?

    The 9/11 hijackers stuck out, by taking flying lessons w/o showing any interest in take-offs of landings. Yet they flew under the radar. (no pun intended.)

    Being a famous actor, Mel Gibson stuck out, yet his latent anti-semitism flew under the radar.

  • shadow

    and so is his mother.

    I heard on the radio this morning that she was a “prepper.”

  • shadow

    left exploiting this crime like the totalitarians they truly are.

    And the religious right are exploiting it to advance their agenda. What’s the difference?

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    I heard on the radio this morning that she was a “prepper.”

    So what?

  • FurryGuy

    #11 December 17, 2012 at 10:57 am
    Stella Baskomb commented:

    If they are so smart and so sure, why didn’t they raise their concerns weeks or months ago?

    Liberal policies of “not stigmatizing” mental illness makes it not worth the effort of raising concerns. The ACLU and other Prog special interest groups would sue the butt off of any police office or school official who tried.

    We went from one perceived extreme of institutionalizing people against their will to the documented other extreme of deliberate and overt neglect of public safety. So much easier to coerce the masses to accept giving up freedoms and liberty when the government actively pursues an unconstitutional agenda.

  • valerie

    #19 December 17, 2012 at 11:31 am
    shadow commented:

    The biggest difference that I can see is that the right is ethically consistent: they don’t want our government killing Mexicans, or murdering babies, or starving grandma because she’s having a medical crisis and is old.

    Liberals like me find a certain appeal in their positions, because they are, at bottom, good-hearted.

    The current administration and its supporters, who are not Liberal, are all about grabbing power and stealing other people’s money, not for good governmental purposes, but to give to their connected friends. And their policies result in dead people.

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    And the religious right are exploiting it to advance their agenda.

    Ha ha, I’m willing to bet that the number of news pieces about people wailing about a Godless citizenry is easily dwarfed by the number of leftist politicians and their acolytes screeching for a gun ban. As a matter of fact, it’s been that way on the radio all damned weekend.

    But that’s how the left is – all too willing to dance in the blood of the dead if it serves their political purposes.

  • FurryGuy

    #17 December 17, 2012 at 11:24 am
    shadow commented:

    The 9/11 hijackers — yet another example of liberal policies and politics that put up an artificial “wall” preventing intelligence agencies from being able to share information that could have pieced together the disparate parts of the plot known to multiple agencies.

    Good example, but not in the way you think.

  • Granny

    Whatever his mother was or wasn’t, she absolutely bears a great deal of the blame because she was in close proximity to him on a day-to-day basis and admittedly SAW the warning signs that he was going off the deep end (burning himself, her statement that she was afraid she was “losing him”) and yet did nothing to make sure that he got help before all hell broke loose.

    That is, sadly, the role of a care-giver parent and it does not end the day the individual turns 18.

  • valerie

    #21 December 17, 2012 at 11:39 am
    FurryGuy commented:

    I suspect this mainstreaming [email protected], like so much other allegedly Liberal [email protected] is a result of guilt, and that guilt has several names, one of which is Kennedy.

    Ted Kennedy carried a huge load of guilt, and he tried to expiate it in the US Senate, with disastrous policy results. One aspect of that guilt was the lobotomy inflicted on Rosemary Kennedy by her parents, and bipolar disorder on the part of his son. The overreaction and perverse attempts to mainstream non-functional people may have gotten a strong push from one rich but stupid man overreacting to the sins of his father, not to mention his own.

  • Patty

    OT

    “Curiously, during the period before deinstitutionalization, the mentally ill seem to have been less likely to be arrested for serious crimes than the general population.”
    “Studies in New York and Connecticut from the 1920s through the 1940s showed a much lower arrest rate for the mentally ill. In an era when involuntary commitment was relatively easy, those who were considered a danger to themselves or others would be hospitalized at the first signs of serious mental illness. The connection between insanity and crime was apparent, and the society took a precautionary approach. Mentally ill persons who were not hospitalized were those not considered a danger to others. This changed as deinstitutionalization took effect.”

    From “Madness, Deinstitutionalization & Murder,” by Clayton Cramer.

    http://althouse.blogspot.com/2012/12/curiously-during-period-before.html

  • valerie

    #25 December 17, 2012 at 11:46 am
    Granny commented:

    I would resist placing much blame on the mother of this young man, unless I knew that she had turned down an offer of effective help.

  • Patty

    #28 December 17, 2012 at 11:58 am
    valerie commented:

    Agree, I
    reserve judgement or opinions until all the facts and investigations are completed.

  • Patty

    OT

    ‘She would get very upset that he wouldn’t let her hug him:’ Dysfunctional relationship of Sandy Hook gunman and his mother

    Nancy Lanza portrayed as ‘survivalist’ who stockpiled food, water and guns
    She was shot four times in the head, possibly as she slept, by her son
    Collection of guns included handguns, assault rifle and two hunting rifles
    Son Adam was reclusive, spending most of his time in adjoining bedrooms
    Friend: Mrs Lanza ‘would get very upset that he wouldn’t let her hug him’
    Moved to Sandy Hook in around 1998 but Mrs Lanza and husband divorced
    Funerals for the young victims held today
    All schools in Ridgefield, Connecticut, were in lockdown today because of a suspicious person who might be armed, police said

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2249185/Nancy-Lanza-Did-paranoid-gun-crazed-mother-trigger-Sandy-Hook-Connecticut-killing-spree.html#ixzz2FKkQCs6e

  • Patty

    OT

    Everything You Think You Know About Autism Is Wrong

    [……………………]
    Part of autism’s mystery lies in the nature of the condition itself: in its most severe form, it leaves the autistic person entirely unable to communicate, either verbally or physically. It’s not just that someone with autism cannot speak. As most who have lived with or seen autism know, a child with serious autism seems entirely disconnected. Autistic children do not make eye contact and they don’t play. Instead, they flap their hands, roam around a room’s periphery, engage in endless repetitive activities, and seem locked away in their own world.

    Some experts contend (erroneously, as it turns out) that autistic children dislike physical contact, cannot emote, and lack the capacity for loving. This seeming emotional isolation led the misogynistic Bruno Bettelheim to conclude that mothers caused autism when they (allegedly) withheld affection from their child. This wrongheaded theory inspired generations of loving mothers to suffer enormous guilt.[……………….]

    http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2012/12/10/everything-you-think-you-know-about-autism-is-wrong/

  • Granny

    #28 December 17, 2012 at 11:58 am
    valerie commented:

    #25 December 17, 2012 at 11:46 am
    Granny commented:

    I would resist placing much blame on the mother of this young man, unless I knew that she had turned down an offer of effective help.
    ____

    I disagree. I have raised a severely disabled child. I have a friend who is currently raising a severely disabled child – one who just turned 18.

    There is no such thing as an “offer of help.” As the parent it is your job to go move heaven and hell itself to make sure that help is available.

    I also, BTW, have worked with psychiatric patients for 30 years, starting as a volunteer at the state hospital when I was in high school, then continuing on a professional basis through the entire deinstitutionalization process. As his primary caretaker it was that mother’s job to keep a very close eye on her son, to be the 24/7 eyes and ears for the mental health community. She could have and should have done far more than she did.

  • Patty

    We live next to parents with an autistic child. It is sad as I have seen this child from the time he was brought home after his birth until now age 9. I just cannot tell you what parents have to go through each day. And the mother has been wondering what she did to have an autistic son.

    She and her husband truly care for the son and each day it is a challenge. And we must get answers what causes this in the first place.

  • Sasja

    Granny, we all know about all your great accomplishments over the years and your ability to work in all fields of science and now psychiatry. It is really a shame that more people don’t possess your talent for knowing everything so they could use that vast knowledge to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Most of us realize that even though a family member may exhibit mental health “issues” it is very difficult to get treatment especially when they are of age. Now, in your infinite wisdom, what should that mother have done and how do you know she never tried to get help?

  • Dave-O

    I think Granny knows of what she speaks.

    At least the mother was involved in trying to help her son – that’s more than I can say for his father – who appears to have been completely AWOL. So, while I do fault the mother (mainly for keeping her firearms accessible when there is a troubled youth in the house), but also for being almost obsessively secretive about this troubled young man living in her house – I cannot let the father off the hook either – he appears to have been totally absent from this young man’s life. His adult brother was also quoted as saying that he not had any contact with his younger brother for a couple of years. It seems no wonder that this young man had a anger issue building inside him.

  • Sasja
  • Granny

    #34 Sasja –

    You don’t need to be sarcastic LOL. I am old. I worked in the psychiatric field for about 30 years, both full time and part-time, through the time I finally got around to finishing university as a medical scientist in my 40s. I wanted something that paid better than psychology.

    Even in Connecticut, when people are harming themselves – as in burning himself – this mother could have absolutely have gotten her son, adult or not, some help.

    There is then the entire issue of what the woman was doing training a severely disturbed child to use guns in the first place.

  • Sasja

    What is wrong with that picture painted by the mother in the article above? There are several.

  • Look-Out

    re Sasja — “what’s wrong with that picture” —

    She’s a single mother – there’s no father for these 4 children, though we don’t know what, if any, involvement he might have with them. But kids need discipline. Firm discipline, especially for boys out of control. And that’s best handled by a loving, competent father.

    “Michael” does appear to be mentally unstable. But he also seems highly manipulative and hugely narcissistic. This mother needs to protect her other children and get immediate help for Michael. But I’d be very careful about where I got that help.

    Sorry, but an exorcism came to mind when reading about his behavior. Frightening to hear such ugliness from any child, especially one’s own. I’d like to know his history of medications, shots, etc.

  • Look-Out

    re #39 — I’d also like to know how involved/how much time the mother was with her children during the day/night — did they spend time in someone else’s care while she was working…

  • Campfollower

    I t, thought Hemmer wasn’t too great with that poor cop. It’s NOT the cop’s fault he’s been working probably 24/7 on this case and mis-spoke. Or he meant to say people noticed the kid and he stood out, but not to the police. I mean, the police are there to RESPOND to threats and lawbreakers.

    Another thing. I have college kids. When kids this age live at home, they aren’t noticed any more by school counselors or high school teachers. They are in between real life and being a kid. If he didn’t have a job, his mom was probably the ONLY one who could’ve seen this coming and maybe she did, but look what happened. Just because he looked funny and sometimes carried a briefcase didn’t mean he was going to shoot up a school. We can’t assign this type of judgement to people before they act. IT’s just impossible. It’s like trying to profile terrorists…where is the line?

    Sometimes evil wins, temporarily. It’s up to us to counter it best we can.

  • bg

    ++

    truth is Adam Lanza shot those teachers &
    children IN A BLAZE OF MENTAL MADNESS!!

    ==

  • shadow

    #20 So what?

    Yeah. I’m sure you would be saying that if she were a card carrying member of the ACLU.

    Anyway, it explains the easy access to guns in the house.

  • shadow

    The 9/11 hijackers — yet another example of liberal policies and politics that put up an artificial “wall” preventing intelligence agencies from being able to share information that could have pieced together the disparate parts of the plot known to multiple agencies.

    And who, exactly, was at the helm of those agencies when the dots failed to be connected?

  • shadow

    truth is Adam Lanza shot those teachers &
    children IN A BLAZE OF MENTAL MADNESS!!

    That is one thing on which we can all agree.

  • Look-Out

    Clinton’s Jamie Gorelick wrote the law that put that “wall” in place – hey, let’s not share info!

    She was also on the Board of Directors – collecting her $15million or so – of Fannie (or Freddie) when that game played out. There were other Dems – pals of Dems – that benefitted far better than she.

    But, thanks, Jamie!

  • shadow

    I cannot let the father off the hook either – he appears to have been totally absent from this young man’s life.

    How did you get that impression?

  • shadow

    And we must get answers what causes this in the first place.

    Is it not God’s will?

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    Yeah. I’m sure you would be saying that if she were a card carrying member of the ACLU.

    Again I ask: So what?

    Is there some sort of law against being a “prepper”?

  • shadow

    Clinton’s Jamie Gorelick wrote the law

    The executive branch does not write laws.

  • Look-Out

    Well, let me be more accurate…

    The disclosure that Jamie Gorelick, a member of the September 11 commission, was personally responsible for instituting a key obstacle to cooperation between law enforcement and intelligence operations before the terrorist attacks raises disturbing questions about the integrity of the commission itself. Ms. Gorelick should not be cross-examining witnesses; instead, she should be required to testify about her own behavior under oath. Specifically, commission members need to ask her about a 1995 directive she wrote that made it more difficult for the FBI to locate two of the September 11 hijackers who had already entered the country by the summer of 2001.
    […]
    …the practical effect of the wall was that counterintelligence information was generally kept away from law enforcement personnel who were investigating al Qaeda activities. But Ms. Gorelick’s memo clearly indicated that the Clinton administration had decided as a matter of policy to go even beyond the law’s already stringent requirements in order to further choke off information sharing.

    As Mr. Ashcroft noted during his testimony before the September 11 commission, all of this had a devastating effect into the investigation of al Qaeda operations in this country in the summer of 2001. For example, in late August, when the CIA told the FBI that Khalid Almidhar and Nawaf Alhazmi had entered the country, FBI investigators refused to permit criminal investigators with considerable knowledge about the most recent al Qaeda attack to join the manhunt. Also, a criminal search warrant to examine the computer of Zacarias Moussaoui, whose interest in flying aircraft had attracted attention, was rejected because FBI officials were afraid of breaching the wall.

    Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/apr/15/20040415-094758-5267r/#ixzz2FMBBh8Dm
    Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

  • Look-Out

    re #50,51 == Shadow knew Gorelick’s involvement. But, as with most on the Left, distracting from the truth of a matter is what counts.

  • debiesam

    I can believe he flew under the radar. The police obviously mean that Lanza wasn’t a trouble-maker, he didn’t commit any crimes, he didn’t have a police record, he didn’t do anything that warranted the attention of the police. There are lots of people like that. My close friend’s son has mental illness. The police don’t know he exists. Why should they? He screams and swears at his teachers. So to his teachers, he sticks out. But the police? No.

  • bg

    ++

    re: shadow #44 December 17, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    in case you missed it:

    Look-Out #51 December 17, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    bit more of samo samo..

    September 15, 2008

    Jamie Gorelick, Mistress of Disaster

    January 18, 2010

    The Gorelick Wall Redux

    [The similarities in intelligence and interagency failures that led to both the underwear bomber attack on Christmas Day and the 9/11 attacks are striking. They appear to show a particular myopic mindset among appointees in the administrations of Clinton and Obama. One has to work very hard indeed to avoid noticing those similarities.

    You may recall that the lack of interagency communication was identified by the 9/11 Commission as being the direct result of an official policy of the Clinton White House. That policy was most closely identified with Jamie Gorelick. Called the “Gorelick wall,” the policy is widely referred to as the biggest reason 19 Islamic terrorists were able to attack us on 9/11. The policy mandated a separation of criminal investigators and intelligence agents. No sharing of info. Gorelick herself proudly asserted in a Washington Post op-ed that she was the one who had erected that wall between the agencies.

    The policy, however, was at best flawed, and in reality disastrous.]

    ==

  • Look-Out

    Thanks, bg, for adding that…

    Here’s an article to correct with more info on what I’d posted about the FannieMae/finance collapse — it was not $15million, but $26million she received, and note the bonus with this report that Obama put her on his short list for FBI director. He must have LOVED her wall:

    Jamie Gorelick, a former Clinton administration official who reportedly has made the Obama administration’s short list to become the next director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), was paid more than $26 million in total compensation as a top executive at Fannie Mae–before taxpayers had to bail out the mortgage giant.

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/former-clinton-official-paid-26-million-fannie-mae-taxpayer-bailout-now-obama-shortlist