ADAM LANZA Was Autistic – Had Personality Disorder – Shot 26 People Dead Including 20 Children

FOX News just reported the shooter was 20 yr-old Adam Lanza and not his 24 year-old brother Ryan Lanza.
One of the brothers is in police custody.
FOX News reported a former girlfriend is missing.


Children outside Sandy Hook Elementary today. (HG)

The Shooter – Adam Lanza was autistic and had a personality disorder. He shot his mother and then her kindergarten class.
ABC reported: Ryan Lanza, 24, brother of gunman Adam Lanza, 20, tells authorities that his younger brother is autistic, or has Asperger syndrome and a “personality disorder.”

The victims at Sandy Hook were from 5 to 10 years old.
The Post reported:

A crazed gunman dressed in black went on a rampage at a Connecticut elementary school this morning, in a massacre that left the shooter and 26 dead others – including 18 children.

Adam Lanza, 20, shot his mother dead and targeted her kindergarten class at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., sources sais. Sources also told The Post that Lanza’s mother was a teacher at the school and he “had a dispute with her.”

Lanza is dead inside the school.

Lanza used two handguns and a .223-caliber assault rifle, an official said. The official also said that New Jersey state police are searching a location in connection with the shootings.

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  • lincoln’s wife

    two handguns and a .223-caliber assault rifle

    “crazed gunman” ya think?

  • Comrade J

    Wify troll, how many knifes do you have in your house? Say did someone mentioned knee-jerking a little while ago?

    Anyone heard who the second shooter was? If there was a second shooter?

  • wtd

    UK Daily Mail has more photos of the Lanza family members , with the following mentioned in their report:

    Sources say he opened fire first at the principal’s office and then his mother Nancy’s kindergarten classroom before moving from room-to-room shooting children and teachers.

    Police were dispatched to Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown after they received reports of shots being fired by a gunman in the principal’s office and then a kindergarten classrooms at 9.35am.
    Sources have named the gunman as 24-year-old Ryan Lanza whose mother is a teacher at the school. His younger brother is in custody after being arrested in woods near the school shortly after the shooting, according to sources.

    Lanza is said to have gone from classroom-to-classroom firing at students and teachers with a .223-caliber rifle and specifically targeted his mother’s classroom.

    His father was found dead at his Newtown home around 2pm, according to officials.

    Lanza is dead but it is not clear if he shot himself or was brought down by officers. His body is still at the scene.

  • PB-in-AL

    Ah yes, the requisite “assault” rifle reference. No chance it was just a hunting rifle? Gee, I wonder what Bob Costas has to say about this…. not really, I have a pretty good idea.

    My prayers go out to the families for their losses, and knowing that they’re about to get sucked into a political whirlwind, regardless of what they’re going through right now.

  • lincoln’s wife

    AFA Spokesman Bryan Fischer Says Children Died in Shooting Because School Did Not Embrace God

    Well that should make everyone feel better.

  • bg

    ++

    “whoever” shot his Dad in Hoboken, NJ, then his Mom in Sandy Hook, Conn..

    oh yah, his Mom was a Kindergarten Teacher, so he took out a
    classroom full of innocent defenseless children in Newtown just
    because (fitb) = who the hell cares?? gah!!

    ==

  • Maudie N Mandeville

    Isn’t it liberals who tell us there’s no right or wrong, only shades of grey? And “Who are you to judge someone else?” Oh and then there’s their favorite teaching tool, evolution, that the Nazi’s taught, also. And their use of reason, conscience, or human nature is in the eye of the beholder (or the perpetrator). I’ll stick with Judeo/Christian values, thank you very much.

  • luminOsity

    Gun free school zone = soft target. One armed GOOD person could have completely changed the outcome, but no, it is the gun’s fault not the insane criminal wielding it.

    I grieve for the families that lost their loved ones today. Heartbreaking.

  • Will

    This is a staged event folks!

    [
    This is the ramp up event I predicted for the twelve days of XXXMAS. MK Daddy Delta. This is the sacrificial slaying for the illuminati for Saturnalia. In Connecticut it has even a more symbolic meaning as was the Columbine event in Colorado.
    Child, gunman dead in Conn. elementary school shooting

    This event will culminate with a government staged shooting in the shot heard around the world. Kiss your freedom Sayonara America. It’s already known there was more than one shooter here. This supposed father of a student is best served to have had some divorce or custody type situation. The preliminary information says they are looking for another suspect who fled the scene. Likely he did after he killed the Delta trigger. Unless it was an Omega assassin it appears the best bet is handler and Delta.

    The police report one shooter dead. That means the Police did not shoot him? More than likely they use the murder-suicide which is completely bogus. It never happens in a random rampage but only in a love triangle or he and she scenario. This is the government staged event and has all the MK fingerprints from the likes of the Chicago Communists or the Southern Poverty lawless.]

  • John

    This is a terrible tragedy ! Prayers for each and everybody that has been affected by this senseless act of insanity. If the politicians think that making it tougher for law biding citizens to purchase guns is going to stop this type of act, their just as crazy! The reality is, it is easier to buy a gun illegally than going through the proper channels and background checks. The media always makes it seem like the gun hopped down the street and committed these heinous crimes. With the new security measures that the school put into place, I’m curious on how this guy got in?? The commonality between all of these crimes is the unstable person who committed it. We have more people today that are under a tremendous amount of stress, more people than ever that are on some sort of anti-depressants. More people than ever without jobs,homes, etc. it’s people who kill people. When you put into context more people die each year from car accidents, prescriptions drugs, alcohol, tobacco and believe or not medical miss-haps. People who were desperate 5 years ago are more desperate than ever and willing to do crazy things. I would hate to be in a situation were I was confronted by one of these nut jobs and not being able to protect myself!!!!!!

  • hanna

    God allowed dead kids because they didn’t beleive in Him? God’s word tells us ‘while we were yet enemies(of God) Christ died for us’.I do read and hear there is a god(allah) where death is a punishment for not embracing him.

  • Chippy

    “Never let a serious crisis go to waste.” Rahm Emanuel 2008.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeA_kHHLow&feature=youtube_gdata_player

  • Torental

    Was Adam Lanza smoking pot? Was he in some sort of narcotic induced state when he did this? Anyway Obama has already said that he has bigger fish to fry than pot smokers.

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  • bigkahuna

    I will not be surprised we find the kid had a variety of violent warfare, killing video games that seem so often to dehumanize victims and simply glorify the killing of any and all in the way.

    Im not saying ban them. I am simply saying I will be surprised if they dont find some corrolation.

    For those who say ban guns. He could just have easily got i to a car and drove into crowds of people before or after school and done the same thing or worse.

  • macc

    folks this is way too coincidental!

    shootings not to far apart from each other.

    any thoughts?

  • flyover

    Sounds like the typical white, suburban mama’s boy to me. She probably tried kicking him out of the basement.

    Tragic that losers always seem to take innocent people (innocent kids this time) down with them.

    Blessings to the families who lost loved ones today. May they know peace again some day.

  • It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    how many more children must die so that a few gun nuts can go around with guns and kill children??? It is time to repeal the 2nd amendment. Only the gov’t and law enforcement should have weapons!

  • bigkahuna

    Also we will not have one leftwing media fruitcake say anything abount the millions of dead babies the liberals have no problem killing. Thats a womans right to choose. This is all the guns fault.

  • It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    …because “gun control” is not enough. We need an outright BAN of guns of all types: period…end of story

  • Mad Hatter

    #18, and #20,

    Thanks for showing you’re part of the Gun Gestapo.

  • macc

    what #18 said is exactly what the .gov and all lefties want!

    again way too coincidental!

    legislation gets passed when “the children” are involved.

  • Torental

    Liberal outrage over the death of kids is fake. Liberals have no problem with millions of unborn children being butchered in the womb. They call this ‘choice’. To hell with these liberals

  • flyover

    Guns don’t kill people. People kill people. So let’s ban people.

    On another note, the number 1 killer of children is back yard swimming pools, better ban them too.

  • flyover

    Cars kill people, better ban driving.

  • bigkahuna

    I would rather ban people who want to ban guns

    People die because we have freedom to choose. If a guy chokes his wife to death do we ban freedom? hands? What about cars . More people die in cars by far.

    The government ( especially under liberal rule) is still more dangerous than the average citizen. with or without guns

  • el polacko

    what does it say about the state of our society that, at site after site today, the comment threads are filled with arguments over politics and guns rather than with statements of compassion for those who are grieving the loss of their loved ones ?

  • Sandy

    #1 December 14, 2012 at 2:49 pm
    lincoln’s wife commented:

    two handguns and a .223-caliber assault rifle

    “crazed gunman” ya think?

    This 20 year old was a self centered narcissistic kid who got a notion to hurt his mother the teacher by killing her whole class. What a rush huh? Then he would kill himself and everyone would read about him and he would be famous.

    That is not a crazed gunman — its a prick with delusions of grandeur.

  • bg

    ++

    OT.. related:

    ht Comrade J

    December 14, 2012

    Knife-wielding man injures 22 children in China

    [“the latest in a ‘series of attacks
    on schoolchildren’
    in the country”]

    ==

  • macc

    coincidence?

    gun control has been in the air for several months lately.

    the american people have been seeing the worst in their .gov and have a credible fear.

    so 10s of millions prepare.

    how do you get public opinion to sway?

    “the children”

  • To the poster who goes by the id of: “It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!”

    You are ANTI American, an ENEMY to the CONSTITUTION.

    Don’t like living under the American Constitution and the freedoms given? Then by all means, move somewhere more socialist and collective. There you can allow ‘only your masters’ to have the guns and you can live in your utopian cocoon in SAFETY. OH! Silly me, the countries that have banned guns have the highest crime rates. (Don’t believe it? Look it up, I’m not doing the work for you.)

  • bigkahuna

    #18. This is a tragedy. How many peoples freedoms have to be taken away to prove to you that guns dont kill people..people kill people? How many people die from drugs that they got into after starting smoking pot? But that doesnt stop liberals from legalizing it.

    How many babies have to be killed by their own mothers before we say we have to ban coathangers and abortion doctors and Planned Bbortionhood ?

    Save your fake outrage for the criminal, not the innocent people who have guns for safety, protection or sport.

    Go get mad at rappers calling women Hoes, Bitches, C*nts, and advocating drugs, rape, murder, violence and criminal behavior.

  • Patty

    Prayers for the families.

    God help these families get through this horrible tragedy.

  • Patty

    There are many retired and active police who should be at the doors of schools every day. IMO

  • It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    Cars are ACCIDENTAL. What happened in all of these shootings are not the same. We can’t even send our little babies to school without worrying that some gun enthusiast will come in and shoot them?? We can’t go to a mall or to the movies without worrying that some gun enthusiast will shoot everyone? It is time to ban the second amendment

  • Patty

    #35 December 14, 2012 at 4:09 pm
    It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment! commented:

    THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

  • donh

    #9 ALL TOO WELL PACKAGED…This is a grand finale event of a prolonged series of government staged ” fast & furious ” operations . Every detail fits so neatly into the serial template narrative…. The types of guns used looks specially selected for the gun control agenda………another disturbed young man ” lone wolf “…with ” no criminal record ” ( code for background checks are useless and inadequate to prevent gun violence so we must go the next step and ban guns) …ramping up the scale of slaughter…picking a date right before Christmas…(Recall our government VOTED for a vast increase in abortion baby killing in Obamacare on CHRISTMAS EVE )….The satanic psychopaths running our government WOULD NOT HESITATE to inflict some Dr. Mengele level mass torture trauma upon innocent children to push the agenda they want to achieve….Obama using the Brady room to send his crocodile tearful condolences all part of the pre-written Hollywood script…..What a coincidence the killer is another hypno zombie young man who I suspect was drugged up by some stealth shadow government entity …. programmed in deep sleep therapy for this murder suicide mission. All of these killers are described by witnesses as being in a stupor…dazed and in a zone ..even claiming amnesia following the massacres, if they survive to speak of their crimes….Look for them to add into the script the killer’s was mad at the school for reading a gay marriage book to the kindergarten kids…. Then you know this was staged for the UN New World Order illuminati agenda . .

    Was this such a major operation the fascist handlers masterminding these events killed both Parents to contain the scenario ? There is a distinct cult pattern to ALL of these psychopathic events . The statistical probability of 6 high profile public media attention massacres having all 3,4,5 detailed features in common approaches impossibility. These are the workings of a well organized cult sacrificing humans in bloodbath to bring forth the coming of their lord Satan.

  • bg

    ++

    #18 December 14, 2012 at 3:51 pm
    #20 December 14, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    hey, do you know abortion stats??

    how’s about car kill stats??

    didn’t think so..

    ==

  • Mad Hatter

    There’s that Gun Gestapo Agent again at post #35.

  • It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    It’s only a matter of time before the 2nd amendment is totally REPEALED. We agree! No more calls for gun control! Let’s ban all weapons and only arm the police and military

  • bg

    ++

    uhg, now there’s talk of chopped up and burned bodies.. 🙁

    ==

  • Patty

    And parents must interact with their children. Parenting is a tough job and it seems that many parents these days ignore their children’s problems. All the blame isn’t laid at their feet but there had to be signs and someone in his family had to have seen the signs.

    There seems to be less and less communication these days between parent and child. Heads are buried in computers, text and phones. No interaction gives us this reaction.

  • Sandy

    #27 December 14, 2012 at 4:01 pm
    el polacko commented:

    what does it say about the state of our society that, at site after site today, the comment threads are filled with arguments over politics and guns rather than with statements of compassion for those who are grieving the loss of their loved ones

    …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..

    Its sad that this becomes an argument over politics but we have seen this too many times before. Out comes the candlelight vigil at which a massacre is called a tragedy and after a week of coverage — the story dies and nothing changes. Those who produce movies where blood earns big bucks hide away for a while and then come out with an even more violent flick to stir the masses of angry kids — yearning for their 15 minutes of fame.

    Hollywood will never be mentioned because the Dems get a ton of money from the movie industry to run against the NRA. But angry self absorbed kids will continue to commit these crimes as long as violence is glorified.

    For the families of the victims — life will never be the same because of these pointless killings but for the rest of us after deploring the insanity of it all our lives will go on unabated.

  • #35 … SERIOUSLY? “gun enthusiast” ?? How about PSYCHOPATH! The gun is a TOOL and it is sometimes USED by a CRAZY PERSON.

  • Robert

    Apparently Lincoln’s wife goes by several names on here.

  • It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    How many more massacres do you people want? We as a society must go 100% gun free!!

  • bg

    ++

    #35 December 14, 2012 at 4:09 pm
    #40 December 14, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    attention troll:

    It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    when someone is hell bent on killing,
    best defense is a prepared offense..

    “They Bring a Knife. We Bring a Gun”

    carry on..

    ==

  • To the poster who goes by the id of: “It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!”

    You are ANTI American, an ENEMY to the CONSTITUTION.

    Don’t like living under the American Constitution and the freedoms given? Then by all means, move somewhere more socialist and collective. There you can allow ‘only your masters’ to have the guns and you can live in your utopian cocoon in SAFETY. OH! Silly me, the countries that have banned guns have the highest crime rates. (Don’t believe it? Look it up, I’m not doing the work for you.)

    and RE your #35 … SERIOUSLY? “gun enthusiast” ?? How about PSYCHOPATH! The gun is a TOOL and it is sometimes USED by a CRAZY PERSON.

    Ok, as you continue to post, #46 the latest… it is obvious you are only trying to drum up opposition and are not interested in any type of debate via critical thinking. You must be young… under 25 are you? Public schooled educated maybe?

  • bg
  • bigkahuna

    It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    Lets ban idiot posters who have freedom of speech and expression. I mean look at the hatred you have fore gun owners. Its not healthy. I believe you are a sure sign of a criminal who will go out and kill people who support gun rights. I bet you said nothing about the Obama administration selling 2500 asault weapens to Mexican drug lords where hundreds have been killed. Oh yeah the media hides that and only FOX tells you he is hiding and lying behind his executive priveledge. He and his criminal organization got many killed with illegal actions and you idiot liberals are silent and voted to put the moron back in office because he promised you free stuff and makes liberals feel better when he starts class warfare. How many people are suffering becuase of class warfare ??? Should we ban that too ?

    They have handgun bans in guess where????? Chicago!!!!! Yes Obama’s adopted home town after he saved everyone from poverty, GM going away, saved the middle east, saved the banks and saved the planet….he cant stop thugs in his own hometown from killing each other at record levels. They just do it 1-2 at a time so nobody pays attention.. Its just Obama’s people doing what they do right?

  • Comrade J

    @It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    The blood of these children and many others are on your hands. How can you sleep at night ? You who assist murderers!

  • Patty

    And as much as you know I wish we had another president, Obama was sincere and saddened, today. And he will be working on some sort of gun ban. And that is a given.

    But we shall see what and when he will propose this. I don’t see any ban on guns other then assault rifles. Guns don’t kill, people do but all the same laws under Obama in reference to gun control of some kind is coming.

    You could read between the lines when Obama was speaking today.

  • Hank

    The best response to all this is a rethinking of protecting society from the mentally ill. Forty years ago we emptied the mental institutions and made it almost impossible to involuntarily commit the mentally ill and protect the general publc from them.

    Oops, if we went back to a policy of committing the mentally ill and protecting the general public, the anti-gun nuts and most liberals be in custody and surely in strait jackets.

    Using spoons make people fat-spoons should be outlawed. Bad news for Rosie O’Donnell….

  • bg
  • talgus

    That school is a Federally mandated gun free zone. Who in the current administration let this guy with multiple guns into the school.

    Seems that this was coming for some time, but no one stood up to the poor 20-yr old. Evil is real. It must be faced and dealt with.

  • It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    How much damage could this PSYCHOPATH (gun enthusiast) have done with a knife? Would he have been able to kill so many people WITHOUT access to a gun?

  • bigkahuna

    It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    I see two criminals were paid to cut off Biebers testicles and had shears in their posession… Should we ban shears ?

    Obama blamed that idiot video for murders of our people in Benghazi and he failed to even help as he watched them murdered.Those muslims then started worse riots where people died and blamed that same video. Should we ban Obama from speaking because his words incite violence where people died?

    Obama supports a womans right to choose to kill babies. Should we ban that or fight for your right to kill them ? I never hear you fight for a woman to give her baby up for adoption or stop being irresponsible and having sex when you dont take responsibility for their actions?

    No somebody commits a crime now and we are all supposed to give up our constitutional rights ? You are an idiot.

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  • bg

    ++

    who took the right to be protected away from those children?? 🙁

    ==

  • bigkahuna

    It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    How much damage can Obama do with his pen?

    He allowed Fast and Furious

    He passed Obamacare and people will die because of it. who will is the choice of death panels

    Obamacare will cost millions more in insurance costs and they will not be able to afford food, or to hire another person. How much damagae has he done ?

    Obama spends trillions we dont have. He doesnt care.. He is killing our economy for political gain. Our freedomas are dying daily

  • It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    @ Hank #53

    I agree with you. Let’s go back to committing the mentally ill as well. We must protect the society from evil – whatever the cost

  • DW Pepper

    His Mom was a Teacher.. So Its very probable that She was a Union Member and a Democrat.. Mabe her Son was carrying out the Democrat threat of ” There will be Blood” ? Or Mabe if Mom Taught the Boy “right from wrong” instead of ” The Left is right” and ” The ends justify the means” It would be a better Xmas in a Democrat state !

  • Rock

    #18
    A few gun nuts!!!
    ____________________________

    47% of Americans have guns in the United States

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/150353/self-reported-gun-ownership-highest-1993.aspx

  • bg

    ++

    take al these gun toting wayward jobless trash
    and assign them to school protection program..

    ==

  • Granny

    Strange – neither autism nor Asperger’s are known for making people violent.

  • jainphx

    There once was a time, not so long ago, that we prayed in school. The worst that happened was chewing gum and running in the halls. As kids we learned to read and spell, and even to do arithmatic. We were polite to our teachers, at least most were, teachers were allowed to hug us when we hurt, they also taught us. Now what do we get. SEX education, condoms on bananas, adam and steve, mary and jane, and prayers are not only not allowed, why you can get expelled for even mentioning the LORD, or your valadictorial speech is not allowed because you said something of G-D. Is anyone surprised that our kids don’t learn anything in school that might help them in life, no instead we have killings that is blamed on the gun and not the shooter, or the liberal mindset that created these monsters thAT WALK AMONG US, shame on us for allowing our godly beliefs to be spat on, shame on us all for not speaking up, and shame on us for electing the people that cause this. May G-D help us and take those that were MURDERED by this mind set to his side.

  • bg

    ++

    take all these gun toting wayward jobless trash
    and assign them to school protection programs..

    ==

  • Tica

    They’re calling it an “assault rifle” because it was a Bushmaster .223, which is an M16 copy.

    .223 is not a common round for hunting, and a bolt-action hunting rifle of any caliber would
    be a poor choice for a mass shooting. Say what you want about the term “Assault Rifle”, a term originating with the Nazi Sturmgewehr 44 (“Storm/Assault Rifle 1944”), not the american media, but semi-auto rifle with a 30 round magazine is much better suited for killing large numbers of people….quickly. That’s what they were designed for.

  • Mad Hatter

    #56 has no friends and he’s wanting to push his Gun Gestapo talking points off on us so we can argue with him.

    Don’t give the 2nd Amendment hater the attention he’s seeking.

  • DW Pepper

    More People Die in Car crashes than Shootings..I dont see Liberals trying to Outlaw Automobiles .. why not ?

  • Disgusted

    What is wrong with you people? Have you no shame at all?? How many innocent lives were lost today? But instead of mourning and sending your thoughts and prayers to the families, all you know how to do is tout your own agendas. Sad times we are living in for sure………………………………………………………..

  • RE # 61: “whatever the cost”

    Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

    Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
    US author, diplomat, inventor, physicist, politician, & printer (1706 – 1790)

  • FMB42

    Anyone wonder just how many “autism” drugs this guy might have been on?

    I just looked at a sample list of the many various drugs that are used to “treat” autism.

    These medications can include, but are not limited to, the following classes and types of drugs;

    ANTI-PSYCHOTIC: risperidone, olanzapine, aripiprazole, and quetiapine.

    ANTI-DEPRESSANTS: fluoxetine (PROZAC), fluvoxamine, sertraline, paroxetine, citalopram, escitalopram, clomipramine, mirtazapine, amitriptyline, bupropion, venlafaxine, and duloxetine.

    STIMULANTS: methylphenidate (RITALIN), dexmethylphenidate, AMPHETAMINES, dextroamphetamine, and lisdexamfetamine.

    NON-STIMULANT medications: atomoxetine and guanfacine.

    Ohter drugs used to “treat” autism include; clonidine, buspirone and propanolol.

    I’ll also add that many of these drugs are bought and paid for by you the taxpayer, rather than by those who actually take them or those responsible for these “autistic” people.

    Please stop and think about this the next time you’re stuck watching endless prescription drug pushing commercials on your favorite TV programming.

  • jainphx

    #56===== Now you are arguing numbers. Would one stabbed to death be acceptable to you, and if so would you blame the knife? See here is where liberalism shines, someone or something is always the blame. the perpetrator is excused, autistic, or was sexually assaulted, or some thing. Lets say all that was true, does that make their victims any less dead.

  • Jet Jaguar

    The police and military are not here to protect us. They exist to enforce law and wage war, although these result in stable societies. Citizens are responsible for protecting themselves. The Second Amendment acknowledges this right and guarantees that government can’t take it away.

  • Comrade J

    @56 t’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment! commented
    How much damage could this PSYCHOPATH (gun enthusiast) have done with a knife? Would he have been able to kill so many people WITHOUT access to a gun?

    Hey libtardamus

    Knife-wielding man injures 22 children in China

    Axe attack in Chinese city of Gongyi kills six: two young girls and four adults

    A man who killed at least three children in a knife attack at a Chinese kindergarten, More than 20 children and staff were hurt

    An attacker hacked seven children to death on Wednesday and wounded 20 others in a violent rampage at a kindergarten.

    the list is long…

    A better question is how many children could have been saved if the teachers/adults had guns? How many people died because of YOUR ignorance?

  • bg

    ++

    Granny #65 December 14, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    yes, quite the opposite..

    take James for instance, and then there’s my
    angel baby grandson who wouldn’t hurt a fly..

    ==

  • valerie

    #18 December 14, 2012 at 3:51 pm
    It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment! commented:

    Yeah, that has worked so well in Chicago, hasn’t it?

  • flyover

    Dear Disgusted,

    Of course we are all disgusted and saddened by what happened today. Of course everyone grieves for these children and their families. These comments are reactions to each other’s viewpoints on how to solve these unsolvable problems.

  • It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    Re: #71 (Disgusted)

    You should be digusted to know that this tragedy would NOT have happened were it not for people like the NRA and gun enthusiasts who believe in keeping the archaic 2nd amendment meant for one shot muskets alive?

    Do you gun enthusiasts also believe the “right to bear arms” includes a NUCLEAR WEAPON? How about a ICBM?

  • Josh Sinclair

    Of course, this ends up turning into a political debate. Don’t Conservatives have better things to do than attack Liberals even when they express sympathy?

    Here’s a deal: Liberals will stop killing babies when Conservatives stop killing everything else.

  • Comrade J

    The libtard is now just babbling incoherently, foaming, let’s hope s/he doesn’t go off his meds and go postal…

    Any word on why that school’s new stricter access rules they talked about failed to work?

  • Rock

    Well I’m with the Left on this, Bush and government are behind the rash of gun tragedies of late after all he killed almost 3000 people on 911 just to go to war. Oh wait WTFs in office not Bush and its WTF who wants to curtail gun ownership, the same president supported by blacks who have called for the killing of whites and their babies, or an obnoxious black actor bragging about getting to kill all the white men in a movie, and a black singer saying WTF should start imprisoning his opponets like some third world dictator. The same POS who bragged about working on gun control under the radar, and who;s Attorney General is eyeball deep in Fast and Furious. No chance he or his supporters would be involved in gun tragedies, just to create a opportunity, right?

  • American Woman

    I think the GP policy on trolls needs to be revisited.

    Suddenly trolls appear way too often here, and they are obviously on a mission to destroy the blog.

    The Progressive bloggers are ruthless with Conservatives, and do not allow any exchange of ideas. GP is giving the Progs way too much freedom.

  • valerie

    #27 December 14, 2012 at 4:01 pm
    el polacko commented:

    “What does it say about the state of our society that, at site after site today, the comment threads are filled with arguments over politics and guns rather than with statements of compassion for those who are grieving the loss of their loved ones ?”

    It says that the gun-control advocates, who created all these soft targets, are more interested in pressing their political agenda than allowing other people to grieve in peace.

  • Comrade J

    #84

    I have a suspicion it’s just one or two trolls who sock puppet. Writing styles are very similar.

  • Rock

    #71 December 14, 2012 at 4:47 pm
    Disgusted commented:

    What is wrong with you people? Have you no shame at all?? How many innocent lives were lost today? But instead of mourning and sending your thoughts and prayers to the families, all you know how to do is tout your own agendas. Sad times we are living in for sure……
    _______________________________________________

    Oh I don’t no WTF was quick enough to politicize this tragedies. Ask him the same question.

  • bg

    ++

    Comrade J #76 December 14, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    yes it is a long list..

    then there’s the school bombings, kidnappings, and
    beheading throughout the ME & African nations.. 🙁

    [and dare i mention the horror of all horrors.. baking
    of children and serving them to their parents..*sigh*]

    not that it makes any of this right, however, it just shows
    how “controlled” It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!
    mindset is..

    ==

  • It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    Re: #84

    Yes, let’s shut down debate while the country witnesses the results of your handy work.

  • Tica

    You’ll notice that in the China knife incident, 20 people were INJURED. In todays’ incident, 26 people were KILLED.

    I own guns. I like shooting. but to pretend that you can be anywehere near as succesful during a knife rampage, hammer rampage, whatever rampage, as you can be with a compact semi-automatic rifle with 30 round magazine….that’s just ridiculous.

    There’s a reason that our police and military use these rifles, rather than carrying 30 knives on their belts.

  • #85 valerie “It says that the gun-control advocates, who created all these soft targets, are more interested in pressing their political agenda than allowing other people to grieve in peace.”

    … exactly. MANY posters here (in the past FOUR threads regarding this tragedy) only posted comments of grief, and prayers for the families. Then, all of a sudden there were posters calling for gun control and being hateful.

  • jainphx

    There is a reason the Bible mentions the proper upbringing and the demand for respect from our children. Children that show respect get respect, oh what a vicious cycle that would be!

  • bigkahuna

    Do you gun enthusiasts also believe the “right to bear arms” includes a NUCLEAR WEAPON? How about a ICBM?

    No Obama wants to reserve that right for N Korea and Iran and give ours up.

    Oh yeah Our founding fathers only intended us to have muskets as we all know that our constitution was meant to be outdated after 15 years.

    Kinda like that old belief that you could not have the government force you to buy a product or service you may not want and then pay extra taxes for it too.

    The constitution is just a stupid document liberals want to be able to ignore at their choice.

  • donh

    Obama picking the room named for James Bradey, handicapped in the attempted Reagan assassination by George Bush family friend John Hinkley Jr. isn’t ” politicizing ” the slaughter of 28 young children….or was it acceptable politicizing because Obama pretended to cry ?

    Note how the mental heath issues that stalk these massacres going all the way back to John Hinckley Jr….are NEVER the issue either.

  • jainphx

    Tica you act as if those killed with knives are some how not dead. Man has found a way to kill even with his or her bare hands. ITS NOT THE GUN its the man or woman behind the gun. Better we all fall on our knees and ask for blessings.

  • bigkahuna

    I see Obama brought out his fake tears again today. The jerk is the biggest fraud on the planet.

    We have had to endure him for 4 years now. I say we ban him as he is divisive and a clusterf*ck who kills peoples with drones and needs banned

  • bigkahuna

    Police: Man Tries To Drown Wife In Dog Bowl After Fight Over Frozen Pizza

    Ban Dog bowls or pizza ? Or both ?

  • It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    Part of this process is looking at HOW WE CAN PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN. We as a society will eventually look at an outright ban on gun ownership. It may not come now, but the conversation must start now!

    Seriously people. My heart aches at seeing ALL of these incidents and the common denominator is access to GUNS! We must ban them outright and stop playing around the edges with it

  • Rock

    It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment! commented:

    Re: #71 (Disgusted)

    You should be digusted to know that this tragedy would NOT have happened were it not for people like the NRA and gun enthusiasts who believe in keeping the archaic 2nd amendment meant for one shot muskets alive?
    ___________________________________________________

    Given the one shot musket was the weapon of the Armies of the world at that time, it seems the Founding Fathers where saying the people could be as well armed as the Government as far as a personal weapons where concerned.

  • Navy Seal

    It’s time to repeal the 2nd amendment sounds a lot like j-harp!!!

  • It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    #97

    How many “dog bowl” deaths have there been and how many GUN deaths have there been in the United States??? Let’s stop with the strawman arguments.

    Certainly a knife death is HORRIBLE, but this guy in Connecticut certainly would not have been able to kill 27 people (20 of them CHILDREN) with a knife!!!

    But I am down for banning weaponized knives if you are

  • bg

    ++

    Personality Disorder

    hmmm, me thinks that’s like, uh, a given.. /s/

    “You ain’t seen nothin’ yet!”

    ==

  • donh

    Obama set the tone of politicizing this slaughter ever so deftly…not in any straight forward statement so obvious he could be faulted for smearing his body with the warm blood of dead children…..like Jesse Jackson did with the bleeding Martin Luther King Jr ….dipping his hands in the blood wet rug and wiping them on his shirt…….but Obama has none the less exploited this tragedy……subtly…and the push for gun bans is already on media power rotation.

  • onbe

    If the shooter had Autism and a mental disorder how is that he was able to have firearms?

  • Autistic people DO NOT go on premeditated murderous rampages!

    VW

  • #101 … “But I am down for banning weaponized knives if you are” … what constitutes ‘weaponized’? If I pick up a pretty rock, and place it on my living room shelf for decoration, it is a rock. But if I choose to use it to bash in my husbands head, it is now a “weaponized rock”, correct? So, should we ban all rocks too? Notice in my scenario, it is I that makes the choice on whether to weaponize the rock or not.

  • Rock

    #98
    Part of this process is looking at HOW WE CAN PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN. We as a society will eventually look at an outright ban on gun ownership. It may not come now, but the conversation must start now!
    ___________________________________________________

    800,000 killed by clubs and machetes. So much for your dream world.

    http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/rwanda.htm

  • bg

    ++

    #101 December 14, 2012 at 5:24 pm
    It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    ipso facto: there have been more lives
    saved than taken via right to bear arms..

    nuts are just that, nuts, the
    guns didn’t make them nuts..

    ==

  • Comrade J

    And @101 libtardamus now invents “weaponized knifes”. Ta…da…da…

    As I said the idiots like this have have these children’s blood on their hands

  • jainphx

    its time===== Prevent you say? pray tell us how! Cain slew Abel, wars, wars, and rumors of wars. Have you read history? When have we ever prevented mans inhumanity to man, and how do we do this when belief in G-D is wrenched from us by those like you that seem to believe you and only you have the recipe. Stop and think what you are saying. We on the other hand recognize that evil exists in this world, and all we can do is arm ourselves with love and the word of G-D, and yes with weapons to keep our loved ones from EVIL. You not only want us to go with out G-D, but also with out the means to protect us from you crazies. LORD come soon we here are cracking up with all this ungodlyness.

  • bigkahuna

    It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    If they find that a common denominator is access to violent video games…should we ban those too ?

  • jainphx #110 … AMEN!!

  • bigkahuna

    It seems to me like the young murderer killed his mother at home then stole a car to go to the school.

    Without access to that car he wouldnt have been able to kill those innocent kids.

    Ban access to cars

  • It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    OK people. Many of you are playing dumb here. You know EXACTLY what I mean by a “weaponized knife” and the Survivalist types buy them all the time. Why don’t they just use basic cake and butter knives? Let’s be for real here.

    Also on that note, why do people prefer GUNS to knives??? And if the people are supposed to be as well armed as the gov’t (asinine), then why not make NUKES legal? Why not missiles and tanks?

    If some MANIAC then attacked a school with a missile, I suppose you guys would still make the argument that “people kill” right?

  • bg

    ++

    anyone who truly believes that gun bans will stop a deranged person
    from acquiring guns to kill people they are dead set on killing needs
    their head examined.. what we need are more armed citizens to keep
    a watch out for them, iow: armed school, mall, company, etc, guards..

    ==

  • Mad Hatter

    The murderer took all three guns from his mother, that were legally purchased, and registered to his mom. He did not purchase any of these firearms that some might think.

  • #114 “If some MANIAC then attacked a school with a missile, I suppose you guys would still make the argument that “people kill” right?”

    … YES, I would. On Sept 11 when terrorist flew AIRPLANES into the towers, did you scream for the banning of airplanes? It was the PEOPLE who KILLED people, the airplane was but a tool.

  • SomethingWicked

    Repeal obviously doesn’t know many cops or military and is ignorant of the statistics concerning alcoholism spousal abuse murderer and suicide. I’m not by any means saying all cops are bad just that they are human too. I would not feel safe knowing that the drunken cop next door that I occasionally hear fighting with his wife was the only person around that had a gun. Being a cop doesn’t make you immune to aborant behavior (like wanting to eat people). When Repeal can assure me that every gun in the world has been destroyed then I will get on his band wagon. Until then please listen and understand. I WILL NOT VOLENTARIALY RELENQUISH MY WEAPONS. I also highly recommend you not attempt to take them by force.

  • Comrade J

    @114,

    Dum-Dum here is what happened in Britain without “weaponized knifes”

    “A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase – and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm

    Our libtard is a prime example of why those who suffer from the same affliction he is, can not learn. Maybe pot is to blame, who knows?

  • jainphx

    YOu are beginning to show signs of ignorance, you say Maniac, and then argue that this same Maniac didn’t kill, no it was the missile. My heavens man, did that missile fire it’s self, did it aim it’s self, and what evil lurked in his heart and soul to even dream of killing those in the school. Don’t you read what you write?

  • It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    Re: #110

    Are you going to argue to me that this guy would have been able to KILL 27 people with a simple knife?? Certainly it would have been a great tragedy, but certainly not of the same scale.

    Your argument is 100% defeatist and essentially says that since men are violent, all bets are off

  • Navy Seal

    :it’s time to repeal the 2nd amendment:
    I am a hunter, so with that being said, you want to take food off of my families table huh? I don’t think so!! I don’t do it for the sport, we eat what I kill!!!!!

  • Rock

    Also on that note, why do people prefer GUNS to knives??? And if the people are supposed to be as well armed as the gov’t (asinine), then why not make NUKES legal? Why not missiles and tanks?
    ______________________________________________________–

    You do understand the difference between crew served weapons and personal I hope. No one here is suggesting anything other than a personal weapon, on par with what a rogue administration would arm their street thugs with.

  • It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    YOu are beginning to show signs of ignorance, you say Maniac, and then argue that this same Maniac didn’t kill, no it was the missile. My heavens man, did that missile fire it’s self, did it aim it’s self, and what evil lurked in his heart and soul to even dream of killing those in the school. Don’t you read what you write?

    ———————————————-

    But if missiles were LEGAL, the dead in this attack on the school would have been in the hundreds…perhaps no survivors…THAT is my point. I am taking you all’s argument to it’s logical conclusion.

  • bigkahuna

    It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    That state has very strict gun laws. Shut up you idiot. You have no right to speak. See how easy it is to lose freedoms ?

    If we find all the killers were found to be crazy should we ban crazy people ?

  • It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    I am a hunter, so with that being said, you want to take food off of my families table huh? I don’t think so!! I don’t do it for the sport, we eat what I kill!!!!!

    ——————————

    News update: We no longer live in an agrarian, hunter gatherer society. You would not starve by going to a grocery store or if you insist on raising your own food, then you can raise cattle, pigs, lambs and goats – NONE of which you would have to shoot

  • Comrade J

    Ladies and gentlemen,

    I propose a BAN. A ban on libtardism being taught in schools, universities and any other place.

    These people come here and scream for gun banning, while we are praying and offering condolences and weep with victims.

    And then they say oh look they are not sympathizing with victims, they are about guns…

    Ok well let’s talk about guns, since you libtards insist. Where do mass shooting happen? Schools, Universities, malls, etc – the “gun free zones”. Anywhere where people can not defend themselves with legal guns against those who break the law by obtaining and/or using the guns illegally.

    Who is to blame for the mass shootings? The mass murderers!

    But who made it easier for them by creating the “gun free zones” where people can not protect themselves?

    Libtards! They have share in that blood spilling. They are accomplices to murderers.

  • It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    #116 The murderer took all three guns from his mother, that were legally purchased, and registered to his mom. He did not purchase any of these firearms that some might think.
    ———————————

    OK, this is why the repeal would include a BAN on the manufacture of guns for the general public. Like Missiles, tanks, and other weapons of the sort, guns would be in that category.

    Yes, Connecticut has heavy gun control (gun control doesn’t go far enough) but one can still purchase guns in other states and bring them to stricter states. That is why we must BAN the manufacture, distribution and proliferation of these weapons. And the gov’t must do what must be done to ensure it

  • Rock

    I wonder if the media did not give these fools so much coverage and attention, and only covered the story, without naming the perps, or showing their picture along with their life history, if we would be exposed to so many copycat crazies? But then those 1% media moguls might be upset, you know, all the media flakes sniffing around WTF potty warmer.

  • bg

    ++

    “one can lead an anti-gun prog-dem-lib to knowledge, but
    one cannot force an anti-gun prog-dem-lib to think”
    – bg

    ==

  • jainphx

    It’s time, you have no argument. Evil is in the hearts and minds of men, no amount of legislation can stop that. legal or not, the deed could not be done without an evil heart. Can’t you grasp that? In reality this argument is basic to human liberty and the difference between liberals and the rest of us. You seem to think if you make this illegal or that illegal that stops it. How much further from the truth must you go until you realize that man is evil. Breaking and entering is illegal, has it stopped? Man wake up and smell the roses, you want more innocents killed? Well than go ahead and make self protection illegal.

  • bg

    ++

    re: #128 December 14, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    ROTF 😆 MBO!!

    ==

  • #131 jainphx … HEAR, HEAR!

  • Comrade J

    @126

    Apparently someone died and made our dear libtarded troll a King who decides what you should or shouldn’t do. You see you shouldn’t hunt, etc…

    Having been debunked on “weaponized knifes”, the myth of no mass murders crimes with knifes, s/he now drones about missiles….

  • jainphx

    There are some so ignorant that logic and persuasion goes in one ear and out the other. I’m armed here at my place. I just placed the gun on the table and ordered it to fire, that was over an hour ago, I’m still waiting. Do you understand what I just said, It’s time?

  • Rock

    #126 December 14, 2012 at 5:50 pm
    It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment! commented: News update: We no longer live in an agrarian, hunter gatherer society. You would not starve by going to a grocery store or if you insist on raising your own food, then you can raise cattle, pigs, lambs and goats – NONE of which you would have to shoot.
    ___________________________________________________

    Yet we know most markets have about three days worth of food on hand, any change to the norm and you could very well be on you own. Whats your backup? Unless you already live on a farm your options are limited.

  • It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    #131 Evil is in the hearts and minds of men, no amount of legislation can stop that. legal or not, the deed could not be done without an evil heart. Can’t you grasp that?
    ——————————-

    Yes and that being the case, then why do you want them well armed??

  • Comrade J

    @131

    Well said jainphx.
    Along the same lines worth noting also that “stricter safety” rules were just instituted in the school. Did that help?

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/14/newtown-conn-school-district-had-recently-installed-new-safety-protocols/

    Truth is the libtards like our resident troll are not idiots. So why do they want everyone disarmed? Well did you notice how strong of opinions s/he has about what you should be able to do and not to do? Guess how they would enforce it? Comrades…

  • jASON

    The Lord is coming back very soon! Get your house in order!

  • jainphx

    What difference does it make how they harm you? It’s not them that I want armed, it’s me and all like minded people. The basic principle escapes you, but than again that’s the difference between you and me. I care about people. You care about what?

  • Rock

    Evil men in power always fear a armed populace. That said free men should always fear any in power who look to disarm them.

  • bg
  • bigkahuna

    It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment

    Just disarm yourself and rely on the policce and obama to save you when the criminal comes in your home armed with knives, swords, baseball bats, hoes, crossbows, lead pipes, or anything else they will use when you steal their guns

    IDIOTS should be banned and you are one giant idiot

  • mark1973

    Adam Lanza’s older Brother Ryan said “His Brother Adam had a long history of Psychiatric problems”. Alright,i wanna know what medication’s and what govern sponsored program ( Like James Holmes the Aurora,Colorado shooter ) Adam Lanza was on. Obama wasted no time today in calling for “Meaningful action”. That means banning Firearms as a result of this Slaughter so we can’t defend ourselves against his Tyranny. This attack as i said before was NO COINCIDENCE! It was a “False Flag” Attack to use this as a pre-text to take away our God Given Second Ammendment Right’s! We have to call into question everything the Administration is saying on this and “Build A Wall” against their attempts to take our individual Liberty and Freedom away.

  • JDR

    From AoSHQ:

    346 The 3rd Sunday of Advent is Gaudete, or Joyful Sunday. But how do we have a Joyful Sunday after tragedy like this latest school shooting?

    Because the light shines in the darkness. Because the darkness of Advent will give way to the brilliant light of Christmas. Because God is with us.

    Posted by: TiminAL at December 14, 2012 06:29 PM (A9c4d)

  • Tica

    How about this simple scenario: Mentally disturbed, autisitic 20 year old killed his mother & her students because he was jealous of the attention she gave them?

    Sounds a lot more feasible to me than the Government Sponsored False Flag lunacy.

  • donh

    #144…don’t forget the VA Tech killer Cho who still tops the list of mass murder shootings was under the care of a psychiatrist….and John Hinkley Jr. got off attempting to kill a President on insanity. ..and Jarred Loughner heavily into drugs and lucid dreaming….WHY ISN’T MENTAL ILLNESS THE ISSUE….. AND WHY NO MEDIA RESEARCH INTO WHAT THESE STATIST COMMIE HEAD SHRINKS MAY BE PROGRAMMING THEM TO DO IN SUBCONSCIOUS STATES….. OR WHAT DRUGS THEY ARE ON.

  • bg

    ++

    re: #142 December 14, 2012 at 6:18 pm bg

    just a sample:

    September 30, 2011

    Media Silence Is Deafening About Important Gun News

    July 14, 2012

    Crime rates in Chicago and DC drop
    after gun control laws are struck down

    ==

  • JEHOVA KNUCKLE SANDWICH USMC

    #62 December 14, 2012 at 4:44 pm
    DW Pepper commented:

    His Mom was a Teacher.. So Its very probable that She was a Union Member and a Democrat.. Mabe her Son was carrying out the Democrat threat of ” There will be Blood” ? Or Mabe if Mom Taught the Boy “right from wrong” instead of ” The Left is right” and ” The ends justify the means” It would be a better Xmas in a Democrat state !

    Compelling.

  • Maudie N Mandeville

    How did an autistic, Asperger syndrome with a “personality disorder” kid acquire these guns? Eric Holder?

  • bg

    ++

    recent random shootings, theater, school,
    mall, yes, all gun-free = unprotected.. 🙁

    [How can this condition be repaired and this country returned to the
    days that our parents remind us of when “kids used to go to the park
    and play until dark and ride their bikes home by themselves.” No longer.
    We are a country that is infested with twisted, deranged and depraved
    lunatics who are preying on the most helpless and innocent among us.
    Somehow, we’ve got to make it stop. Please, someone make it stop.]

    Amen..

    ==

  • Vivian

    So sick of hearing the usual crap from the “can’t let The Man keep us down” gun lovers. This is a prime example of why we need to tighten up when it comes to weapons. A room full of five year olds died today because your beloved guns fell into the hands of a mentally unstable individual. I’m 100% convinced that a full-blown psychological evaluation should be required to obtain a firearm. You can compare them to knives or cars or what have you, but those items are created to serve useful purposes. A gun has no other purpose but to hurt and/or kill. If you simply can’t bare to part with your guns, at the very least put some ADEQUATE precautions, rules, and regulations into place so that things like this don’t happen.

  • Tica

    Maudie… The guns were legally registered to his mother. He killed her, and stole them.

    or vice versa.

  • Tica

    “I’m 100% convinced that a full-blown psychological evaluation should be required to obtain a firearm”

    As I just posted, Vivian….the guns belonged to his mother….whom he killed.

    I don’t think her ability to pass a psychological evaluation would have changed
    anything. Maybe an evaluation of where she stored her guns would have.

  • bigkahuna

    It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment

    441 murders in Chicago since Jan 2012 with handgun ban.

    Obama just ignored them and let the people of his hometi=own die. He doesnt care he wants them unarmed and DEAD

    Just take their money, take their guns, take away right not to buy health insurance, take away cars that use to much gas, take away big drinks, take away good taste in food in schools.

    How many kids will go crazy because Mooochelle banned decent tasting food and after going hungry go crazy and kill others ???????

  • bg

    ++

    Vivian #152 December 14, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    take care of the mentally deficient..

    guns don’t use people, people use guns, and knives, hatchets, or
    whatever is available, and there’s probably more “illegal weapons”
    on the streets than legal.. leave the guns alone.. they deter crime,
    not nuts.. nothing deters nuts.. hell=O?? just in case you missed it:

    Crime rates in Chicago and DC drop
    after gun control laws are struck down

    ==

  • Navy Seal

    :repeal:
    FYI, I grow a garden every year, we can & freeze everything & I would rather spend $2.00 on a bullet than spend $100.00 to $200.00 on meat at a grocery store!! What’s your idiot a$$ gonna do when you can’t depend on the government for help.. Oh yeah I know, your liberal a$$ is gonna go out & try to kill a deer with a butter knife, lol!! You don’t know sh!t about survival!!!!!!

  • bg

    ++

    ABORTION CLINICS DON’T KILL BABIES, DOCTORS AND MOTHERS DO

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    CARS DON’T KILL PEOPLE, DRIVERS DO

    ==

  • bigkahuna

    Vivian commented
    So sick of hearing the usual crap from the “can’t let The Man keep us down” gun lovers. This is a prime example of why we need to tighten up when it comes to weapons. A room full of five year olds died today because your beloved guns fell into the hands of a mentally unstable individual. I’m 100% convinced that a full-blown psychological evaluation should be required to obtain a firearm. You can compare them to knives or cars or what have you, but those items are created to serve useful purposes. A gun has no other purpose but to hurt and/or kill. If you simply can’t bare to part with your guns, at the very least put some ADEQUATE precautions, rules, and regulations into place so that things like this don’t happen.

    You are an idiot.

    We have tons of laws, regulations and precautions, rules…. and yet Obama sold guns to Mexican drug lords and over 300 people died.

    These guns were bought and legally owned by HIS MOTHER. HE took them and killed his mother and stole her car. Her drove that car to get to school and kill kids. HE WAS as SICK AS LIBERALS and he needed to be stopped just like liberals.

    LIBERAL Hollywood glorifies guns and rap music and vilent video games where everyone can do what they want and dont want the death penalty. So deal with it.

    Guns serve a great purpose that you FAILED TO MENTION. PROTECTION. Had your mother used PROTECTION we wouldnt be here listening to your idiotic rant.

  • Tricky Dick

    This was some mentally disturbed individual who killed all of the children that were in the class that his mother taught after killing her. Most likely he was extremely jealous of the children his mother taught and thought they got more attention than him. I would bet that he resented the children his mother taught for many years. The guns belonged to his mother. Most likely they had a very heated argument and he snapped and killed her. Once he realized what he had done he decided to make those who he considered the ones responsible, his mothers students, pay for what they had caused him to do. Yes, he used guns but I assure you, if guns had not been available he would’ve chosen some other form of violence to inflict his rage upon them. This person probably made threats long before today and should have been medicated on institutionalized. Now we’ll have idiots like Mayor Bllomberg calling for banning all guns. To them I say, I’ll give up my guns just as soon as you disarm your body guards. Until then, STFU! You’re only using the personal tragedy of so many to push your political agenda and for that you are truly one lowlife individual.

  • Gail

    I am just so angry! I wasn’t going to say anything for a while but I am afraid this is going to go in the wrong direction of opinion so let me just get this off my chest!

    Well, let’s just make some horror and murder and sex films. Yep that’s what we need! And some more violent games, yep we need more of them too! Shoot the black guys, shoot the white guys! Call them names. Rob them, stab them, shoot them! Show them how to do it, how to plan it, give them all the juiced up Hollywood scenarios.

    Molest, rape and murder little boys and girls. Take a 15 year old girl on a sex ride and call it Statutory Rape, glorify everything, shock everyone so much that we become de-sensitized to everything! Even some of the “family fare” crap movies are tainted with violence and sexual innuendo. Let’s just lead our children into the moral degradation of our country!

    Yes, I am trembling with anger right now because of what happened to 28 innocent children and adults in our country today! Total breakdown of values in this country! Don’t even start with “it’s the guns” BS! Clean up the entertainment community! These were defenseless little babies! This could have been our children, our grandchildren, our brothers and sisters, or our parents! Don’t settle for it again America! Love and protect your loved ones! Make a commitment to stop this insanity!

  • bg

    ++

    re: #158 December 14, 2012 at 6:55 pm bg

    AND ALBEIT RARER, FATHERS DO TOO

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  • bg

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    Gail #162 December 14, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    Amen..

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  • valerie

    The right to bear arms is a political right designed to safeguard freedom so that no government can take away from you the rights which God has given you. – Newt Gingrich, NRA’s Celebration of American Values Leadership Forum

    http://www.newt.org/solutions/second-amendment/

    This speech is well worth the time.

  • #162 Gail … exactly. We reap what we sow.

  • valerie

    #152 December 14, 2012 at 6:43 pm
    Vivian commented:

    Or we could pay attention to crazy people when they start making threats.

  • sablegsd

    #18 December 14, 2012 at 3:51 pm
    “It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!”

    FU, you commie stooge. A guy in China just did the same thing, with a KNIFE. Gonna call for a ban on cutlery? Hey, if it hadn’t been a “gun free zone” maybe a teacher could have taken this lunatic out before he killed so many.

  • Vivian

    @bigkahuna And had your mother spent more time teaching you some manners instead of soliciting clients on the corner, you would probably know how to get your point across without name calling.

    I understand that they also serve as “PROTECTION” but as long as you have a free flow of firearms within reach of everyone and their mother, it’s only logical that incidents like this will continue to occur.

    Pull your head out of your politic-obsessed behind. My saying ‘adequate precautions’ did not necessarily denote ‘legislation’. If you know you have a mentally ill person in your household, you should take ADEQUATE PRECAUTIONS to make sure that they have absolutely zero access to it. If you want to have a gun, good for you, here’s a cookie. But you can’t have a gun and then be careless with it at the same time. Realize that your protection could also be dangerous and treat it as such. That’s all I’m saying.

    Now let’s see what other poo-flinging comments you’ll come up with. Not that I’ll care because I’ve voiced my opinion and quite frankly I’m done talking. I’m not about to go tit-for-tat with you, so goodnight, sleep tight, don’t let the LIBERALS bite 😉

  • Tcircle

    It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment! commented:

    …because “gun control” is not enough. We need an outright BAN of guns of all types: period…end of story

    Spoken like a true moron. Get your head out of your shorts and stop sniffing toxic waste.

  • bg

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    Vivian #152 December 14, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    re: [A room full of five year olds died today because your
    beloved guns
    fell into the hands of a mentally unstable individual.]

    IT’S MIRROR TIME FOR HYPOCRITES LIKE YOU!!

    ==

  • valerie

    #147 December 14, 2012 at 6:32 pm
    donh commented:

    You raise a really good point, and your examples starting with James Holmes, Cho Seung-Hui, John Hinkley, Jr., and Jarred Loughner all relate to people who had been under the care of a psychiatrist. Psychiatrists can prescribe drugs, and we don’t know nearly enough about psychoactive drugs. Sometimes they don’t work, sometimes they have unexpected effects, patients are notorious for failing to take them because they make the patient feel bad.

    I am not saying that they were or were not reacting to prescription drugs at the time, but even a prescription drug that works well may only be a way of providing a false sense of security to those who know a given person can be dangerous. What we do know is that these people were all giving off very disturbing signs in advance of their violent acts.

    In this case, we know there was something mentally wrong with the young man.

  • to all the gun control advocates, we have over 2000 state and federal gun control laws. the places with the most stringent gun control laws are the same places that have the most guns and gun violence, the inner-cities of america.

    i don’t own a gun, i don’t like guns, but people need the right to bear arms to protect them selves from the government. it is is dispicable on your part of you government power advocates to use incidents like this to try to take that right away from the citizens.

  • It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    #140 The basic principle escapes you, but than again that’s the difference between you and me. I care about people. You care about what?

    —————-

    I don’t accept the premise. You all just assume that people that do NOT agree with you that any and everyone should be running around with a gun and having them so readily accessible that a mad man can grab THREE of them and go kill CHILDREN!!!! Yet, you accuse ME of being the one that does not care about people??? What kind of funny world do you live in?

  • bigkahuna

    Awe Vivian got her feewlings hurt. You made an idiotic statement and you know it. I called you out on it because it was so stupid.

    You said we needed laws, rules, regulations etc etc etc and we have tons of them. Just like we have laws against stealing, DUI, govt corruption etc. We have all the above because thats what life is. Its not always pretty but thats what we have in a free society.

    You claim you are 100% sure we need full blown Psych exam….I say the same then for voters..see how idiotic that is ? Same for those having kids and getting welfare and Welfare isnt a constitutional right. I agree the kid was most likely nuts but maybe he was fine and simply snapped! We dont know. She may have had those guns under lock and key and found a way to get them anyway. Just like he could have gotten in her car and driven through the afterschool crowd driving 50mph and killed 50 or more. Ban cars !!!!!!

    So sick of hearing the usual crap from the “can’t let The Man keep us down” gun lovers….. shows you loathe those who are exorcising their legal rights.

    Unlike halfwit liberals I choose not to solicit on the corner and its liberals who want us now to legalize pot so potheads can get more drugs and cause more havoc. I dont have kids I cant raise or pay for. I choose to work hard everyday since I was a kid because my parrents taught me values and manners. They also taught me to call out idiots who havent an ounce of common sense.

    The point is liberals use tragedy to take away freedoms of those who obey the laws and rarely look at the real reasons and problems for what caused the tragedy.

    I bet we wont hear a peep from liberals about Hollywood violences graphic and otherwise. We wont hear that this kid had and played violent videogames where the main objective is to kill as many people as you can in as short a time as possible. The more realistic the better.

    We wont hear word one about liberals in hollywood about Rappers spewing garbage calling women bitches, hoes, c*nts, ( especially if conservative) and advocating violence against women and whites or police or Bush. Or like just yesterday Michelle Malkin on Twitter.

    We wont hear one bad word about Union thugs beating a reporter in Michigan threatening his life while attacking eldery and women and even children in a tent because we cant say anything bad about liberals and cant have people having the right to choose unless its killing your own baby ! Oh I heard him claim to have a gun as well. All because Obama got them believing those who dont want to join a union and be forced to pay thug dues ..ie democratic funds.

  • Kate

    utensils are used to eat and this causes people to get fat, so we should ban utensils too.

  • It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    #143 – Just disarm yourself and rely on the policce and obama to save you when the criminal comes in your home armed with knives, swords, baseball bats, hoes, crossbows, lead pipes, or anything else they will use when you steal their guns

    ———————-

    What a bunch of paranoid crap! You sound like one of those Doomsday Prepper lunatics that is expecting the economy to collapse so they are preparing to bug out with a bunch of weapons and such.

    No thanks. A set of good locks on my doors and windows along with an alarm system will do me just fine until the police come THANK YOU. No need for sniper weapons in anticipation of mobs of criminals with bats, lead pipes and hoes

  • GarfieldJL

    As someone whom is actually on the Autistic Spectrum, I actually consider it fairly unlikely the guy was on the Autistic Spectrum, or if he was he had some additional issues, cause the kind of behavior this gunman displayed seems to be sociopathic.

    People on the spectrum, while we can seem to be uncaring (when in fact we normally do care about others), we also tend to be very big on right and wrong and rules. The shooting a bunch of 5 year-olds, doesn’t seem to fit from what I’d expect of anyone on the Autistic Spectrum.

    People may think I’m biased on this, but I really don’t think the rampage is due to Autism, no matter how angry the shooter may have been at his mother (assuming that was the motive), I don’t see someone on the spectrum turning their anger on kids like that. Then again it could just be I had a decent upbringing and understand right from wrong.

  • mark1973

    #147,Exactly and agree 100%! We have to right now let them know Right Now, that what ever they decide on, we are not going to turn in any of our Firearms,magazines or Ammo ever! I fully expect Boehner,McConnell, McCarthy,Cantor and company to get fully onboard Obama’s Assault Weapon’s Ban push.We have to start Pushing back and Pushing Back Hard and questioning everything about this slaughter and the government’s Probable involvement in it!

  • Kate

    I love the Liberals screaming for gun control when they voted for a guy that is killing innocent children everyday with his drone wars. Oh wait these children’s lives are just collateral damage, yeah their lives mean nothing right? I do pray for the victims and their families of today’s shootings. But should we be any more sad today, than we are when we see innocent children being killed by drones or by our military on foreign land? I’m equally saddened by all these acts of violence. What we need to ban is psychotropic drugs. Most mass murders are on some type of mind altering prescription. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UhO0Pul_FcE#!

  • Jerry C

    Laws are for the lawless. Criminals are lawless & do not obey laws. Gun laws do not prevent criminals from getting guns. On the other hand, moral people are law abiding, so they do not need laws to punish their behavior.

    The ONLY logical reason a government enacts more gun laws is to prevent law abiding citizens from defending themselves against…their own government. Our 2nd Amendment is the only deterrance we have to prevent this tryannical government from total genocide. Lock & load to prepare for the defense of this great nation. It’s coming whether you want it or not.

  • bigkahuna

    It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment AKA you dont need free speech or your own money either. said

    What a bunch of paranoid crap! You sound like one of those Doomsday Prepper lunatics that is expecting the economy to collapse so they are preparing to bug out with a bunch of weapons and such.

    No thanks. A set of good locks on my doors and windows along with an alarm system will do me just fine until the police come THANK YOU. No need for sniper weapons in anticipation of mobs of criminals with bats, lead pipes and hoes

    Expecting the economy to collapse ???? Of course that never happense when you are $16 trillion in debt and 47% of the people in the country dont pay any Fed tax and suck off the others while their president demonizes those that do and never says squat to the lazy dependent pathetic leeches he gets votes from.

    I have news for you idiot. WE ARE BROKE. We spend $1.3 trillion more each year than we take in. We have bankrupted Medicare, Medicaid and SS has been raided by congress. The Fed is simply printing money by the semi loads and devaluing the dollars we make. Go to the gas station lately? Grocery store ? you see the inflation ? Of course that doesnt matter. I bet your bank allows you to spend all your money too and simply say…Dont worry I will pay you back when I print more ? Of course we wont collapse. what could possibly go wrong when we have a narcissist Pres. who has never run so much as a lemonade stand or hired anyone a=or created one job or product ever tells everyone who does they are bad, evil, wrong and greedy .

    A good lock and an alarm will work great if the cops are closer than 3 minutes because a criminal or two can bust into your house in about 30 seconds and beat, shoot, strangle or stab you and be gone before your alarm company ever responds or gets a cop to check your home. Not saying those are not also good things they just wont stop a determined criminal as many thousands have found out and been murdered. If you choose not to buy, own or use a gun that is YOUR RIGHT. Doesnt mean you have the right to destroy others rights.

  • bigkahuna

    I heard Geraldo on OReilly saying we need to have armed guards at all schools. I bet soon he will also be advocating gun bans if he has not already done so.

  • Jerry C

    @ bigkahuna

    You forgot to mention that all fiat currencies have never collapsed in the history of mankind… um, whoops, never mind.

    The last act of a desperate government is to raid the treasury. (i.e. print money out the wazoo) Welcome to the wazoo.

    Liberalism=Mental Disease

  • Vivian

    @bigkahuna Aww look at you feeling like a big boy, “calling me out”. Glad I could help boost your self-esteem a few points. 😉 But don’t put words in my mouth. Look in my comment. Yes I mentioned rules & regulations, though I never said they don’t exist, so I’m not entirely sure why you keep throwing that out there. I do know, however, that the word “LAWS” is nowhere to be found in any of my comments. You seem to be skipping the PRECAUTION portion. The definition of precaution which is the very first thing I said – contrary to what your brain must have computed – is: “a measure taken in advance to prevent something dangerous, unpleasant, or inconvenient from happening”. Not a law, a measure. But nice try though.

    Autism and Aspbergers don’t just pop up out of the blue. Those things have to be diagnosed. Therefore I would think twice before I put this in the “snapped” category. Plain and simple, you can’t throw a gun in a shoebox underneath some ugly Christmas sweaters in the closet and expect that safety is guaranteed. So many children have accidentally shot and killed themselves or another because, while all the legalities are in order, safety precautions are not. So maybe it would’ve been better if I had’ve just said precautions and left it at that, because obviously you’re a person who doesn’t like the idea of “rules”. Bet you were a “free-spirited” kid who really liked to “express himself” weren’t you?

    While I couldn’t give two flying you know whats about politics, Liberals, Left, Right, Up, Down, and all that bull, I will say I completely agree with you about the entertainment issue. We live in a society that is highly desensitized by violent images on television, video games, internet, music, etc. etc. The entertainment industry is certainly replete with violence. All the more reason to make sure the potential for acting on those things is slim to none. I would say we should also put a couple rules into place as it pertains to the filth put out by the entertainment industry, ah but wait… I forgot… you wouldn’t like that would you? Legal rights, silly me.

  • BarbaraS

    #24 Banning people is the real liberal agenda. Why abortion if this is not true? Liberals keep saying there are too many people on this planet. The cream of the jest is that Margaret Sanger of Planned Parenthood said decades ago that her goal and Planned Parenthood’s goal was to keep the black population down as much as they could and yet these same black people support their own murderers.

  • bobbi

    We had a 4 yr old “autistic boy” in our daycare. Had to be very strict with him 3because ge was sociopathic. Somehow, with autistic kids I’d worked with, I never wanted to accept that anti-social element. But, it’s there. That 4 yr old would act like he was in a WW ring. We had to really watch him. He would deliberately trio kids and hurt smaller kids.
    I think it’s an element of Asperger’s that is not spoken of very much.

  • Sandy

    To those who believe that guns are the problem — not so a guy with the mental problems this Lanza had should have been institutionalized for life. And Lincoln’s wife or Lincoln’s shrew whatever your name is — you are braindead.

  • bigkahuna

    Vivian.. As I said in my repsonse which you cant seem to read or understand while dripping with contempt for those who dont agree with you because you are obviosly so intelligent…. I said we dont know that she didnt have many precautions in place. She may have had them under lock and key. What is reasonable to one may not be reasonable to you since you dont believe they should even have them.

    You talk of autism and aspbergers etc. I have no idea if thats even the case here. I figure he SNAPPED is much more likely since he seems to have killed his mom and those she taught and gave attention too. I would say he was paranoid, or just plain broken. Thats for others to decide if possible. The point is all the precations may have been taken and still not stopped him from getting those weapons.

    Thanks for playing… I’m smarter than you…blah blah blah.

  • bigkahuna

    Oh and Vivian, By the way every time religious groups, conservatives and other groups try to get the hollywood crowd to reduce violence and sex and so on in music, video games or music they are demonized by the left as stepping on their freedoms. Just look at the vile venom that comes from the left the minute they bring it up. Of course this comes from the group who support killing babies so I dont expect much from the left.

    I personally dont believe we can stop it but if more liberals took a stand maybe we could reduce it. Kinda like putting locks on your guns and taking precautions.

  • Patty

    Pray for the families and pray for the children who survived this horrible tragedy.

  • Patty

    It is time to have background checked – armed guards at Public schools

    With the latest horror show of a shooting in a Connecticut elementary school we have seen 27 people slaughtered, 18 or more of them little children according to the unfolding news. A 20-year-old gunman, whose Mom was a teacher, first murdered his mother, then, as yet an unidentified other at different location.

    This was before going to the school and starting his shooting slaughter there. The shooter then killed himself. Already the speculation about motives and mental illness is flying everywhere – Autistic, personality disorder, obsessive-compulsive…on and on. The guy was a sick twisted nightmare who murdered a ton of people then himself. I could care less what brand of craziness and evil he was…he was evil. Millions of people in America have various forms and flavors of mental challenges and illness. They don’t plan to murder people.

    Regardless of the deranged or compromised heart and mind that would do such a thing, the real nightmare and betrayal to America is that this could have been avoided if gun control fanatics hadn’t demanded that teachers and administrators not carry guns or be trained to protect kids at school. Larry Pratt, head of Gun owners of America is spot on with his comments on this. “Gun control supporters have the blood of little children on their hands. Federal and state laws combined to insure that no teacher, no administrator, no adult had a gun at the Newtown school where the children were murdered. This tragedy underscores the urgency of getting rid of gun bans in school zones. The only thing accomplished by gun free zones is to insure that mass murderers can slay more before they are finally confronted by someone with a gun.” It is time to stop ALL gun bans and start protecting schools.[………………………..]

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/51783

  • Patty

    And gun supporters have nothing do to with this tragedy and the other massacres. Each one of these shooters had emotional and mental problems.

  • Sherryd

    Guns are dangerous. Thet are not toys where anybody and everybody can have access to. I say BAN them. Government better find a way to regulate them.

  • Highlander

    Patty, you’re absolutely right. The KNOWLEDGE that a few teachers MIGHT be carrying is all it would take to put an end to this nonsense …

  • Dave-O

    #66 JainPhx and #162 Gail – you both are soooooooo correct. What else should we expect from a society and culture that has gone so far astray???

  • Patty

    His mother knew something and she had to be struggling with the thought hat her son may have needed Psychiatric help. Any number of speculations here and they are just thoughts but she may have thought her job would be on the line. BUT SOMEONE OR MORE KNEW THERE WAS TROUBLE BREWING.

    Father and brother have a treasure trove.

  • jony101

    I always knew something like this was going to happen but thought a muslim would do it. The government will say nothing can prevent this. Arm all the teachers, better than nothing if they wont hire arm security.
    This is bad, but I suspect there will be copycats. Crazy people need to be locked up, medicine dont help them. You dont try to cure a rabid dog.

  • AuntieMadder

    All personality disorders share one common trait: lack of empathy.

    ‘Nuff said.

  • Anne

    “…tells authorities that his younger brother is autistic, or has Asperger syndrome and a “personality disorder”…”

    And planned this alone? I don’t think so. They need to dig deeper.
    Something just doesn’t make sense here. Not possible.

  • AuntieMadder

    #194 December 14, 2012 at 9:29 pm
    Sherryd commented:

    Guns are dangerous. Thet are not toys where anybody and everybody can have access to. I say BAN them. Government better find a way to regulate them.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Right. Because banning drugs has worked so well. /sarc

  • mark1973

    #200,You are so Right! It doesn’t make any sense. An Authistic young adult,with a History of mental problems,drove himself up from New Jersey, murdered his mom,took her 2 semi-auto pistol’s and one AR-15 Assault Rifle, went to the Elementary school where they have procedures’s in place to deny entrance to anyone unfamiliar and he got in anyway’s and commited those Murders.

    Let’s start with the unbelievable story that his single mom Nancy,who lived in a tiny apartment above a dry cleaners would have the money for those Firearms or the need,even though it’s her God Given Second Ammendment Right to own them. It doesn’t fit the profile. I might believe one Firearm,but given her limited income and her location, two semi-auto Handguns and an AR-15 Assault Rifle. Get the Bleep out! No way those were hers. Not only that, are we supposed to believe she knowingly took her Authistic, mentally difficult child,to the range and taught him how to load and clear and shoot semi-auto Firearms a seemingly difficult task for someone of his limited mental capacity? This story stinks to high heck and reeks of a government run “False Flag” to use as a pre-text to Ban Firearms.

  • Josie

    Goodbye America? Obama says he will sign an executive order (as if he has the authority to do so) for gun control if the Congress won’t do it. So here comes the civil war the globalist powers that be want….and all those liberals who think they will have safety will certainly not have ANY safety in that case. Good luck.

    Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.– Benjamin Franklin

  • It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    #202 – This story stinks to high heck and reeks of a government run “False Flag” to use as a pre-text to Ban Firearms
    ——————————–

    So now we have Connecticut shooting “truthers” who believe this is all about taking away their precious weapons.

    This is America. The banning of guns for private citizens will NOT lead to tyranny.

  • Some who are autistic are violent. It’s not PC to say so, but it’s the truth.

  • mark1973

    #204, You really think your line is working around here?

  • It’s Time To Repeal the 2nd Amendment!

    #206

    We must work to change some minds so that we can work to repeal the 2nd amendment. The good news is that more and more people are coming around to the realization that a complete gun ban is needed

  • JC

    My heart aches for those who lost their babies yesterday. My prayers go to them. People who believe a total ban of guns is necessary… PLEASE, just for a moment consider the following possibilities:

    We struggle with ‘balancing power’ all the time. We encounter corruption all the time. Do you trust EVERY government official, military person, police officer to the degree that you would allow them to control ALL weapons and have no say? You may say “I’m not talking about all weapons, I’m only talking about guns”. I agree, however would you want to defend yourself with a knife against someone with a gun?

    What about long term? Let’s say this 1 incident caused complete ban of all weapons to civilians, and let’s say that ban brought peace to our society, for awhile. Flash forward 10-20 years down the road… guns in the hands of civilians are now non-existent. What if we were invaded in mass by another country? What if our government had a massive movement in an unforeseen direction similar to the Nazi movement? We would be like cattle awaiting slaughter. There must be BALANCE. We as humans must have the right to defend ourselves. I remember watching documentaries about Nazi concentration camps and wondering “why didn’t they fight back when they outnumbered the guards by so many?”. I believe it was because they had been stripped of everything and the balance of power was so greatly tipped. Please don’t relinquish all of your power and control into the hands of “officials”, remember they are people too. They make mistakes and show flaws and greed like anyone else. Protect and educate yourself and your family, no one will care about you and yours as much as the person you see in the mirror.

    I’m not saying the above is a solution to the terrible thing that happened yesterday. I’m simply trying to suggest we consider long term implications of the position we as a nation could find ourselves in should we as people choose to give up personal protection.

    Truth is, I wish guns didn’t exist anywhere in the world. Reality is, they do, and they aren’t going to go away. We have to LEARN how to live with them, and ourselves.

  • shadow

    We must work to change some minds so that we can work to repeal the 2nd amendment. The good news is that more and more people are coming around to the realization that a complete gun ban is needed

    I’m a little left of center, but I would never support that. And I don’t see that happening in my lifetime. But feel free in your effort to change minds. That’s what freedom of speech is all about.

  • shadow

    utensils are used to eat and this causes people to get fat, so we should ban utensils too.

    Ummm … if guns were only used to commit suicide, there wouldn’t be much call for them to be banned. On the other hand, if your use of your untensils caused others to become fat without their permission, they WOULD have something to say about it (think second-hand smoke).

    So if we are to start banning things, I would suggest we start with stupid analogies.

  • shadow

    what ever they decide on, we are not going to turn in any of our Firearms,magazines

    I could see them banning the future sale of high capacity magazines, but there is no way to remove what is already out there. I know I’m keeping mine.

  • shadow

    Criminals are lawless & do not obey laws. Gun laws do not prevent criminals from getting guns. On the other hand, moral people are law abiding, so they do not need laws to punish their behavior.

    Devil’s advocate: If a policeman pulls someone over and finds a gun in the car, he can not tell if they are law-abiding citizens, or criminals between crimes. If guns were illegal, there would be no doubt.

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  • shadow

    To those who believe that guns are the problem — not so a guy with the mental problems this Lanza had should have been institutionalized for life.

    If this turns out to have something to do with AS, there are some 600,000 people in the US who share that malady. Are you proposing we lock them all up?

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  • Mary Jane

    News outlets saying that Lanza was autistic and then putting personality disorder in parentheses implies that PD is not a real mental condition but that Autism is and therefore implies that Autisim is the real reason for this rampage. Every autistic person is different, different personalities, different issues. The fact that he was autistic has nothing to do with his mental state. Autism is organic issue NOT a mental illness, however it is true that ANYONE who is considered outside the “norm” is often rejected, bullied, or otherwise treated pooly which CAN lead to a mental illness and Personality Disorder is a REAL mental illness. Please do not promote the idea that Autism and mental illness are the same, they are NOT at all. To imply that all autistics are mentally ill is as ludicrous as implying that all individuals with Cirrhosis of the Liver are alcoholics, or that all diabetics need to be treated for an eating disorder. It is untrue, misleading and creates a perception of reality for those who are not familiar with Autism.

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  • bereal

    To Chippy — Rahm Emmanuel was a student of Milton Friedman, who (perhaps) actually originated the crisis quotation in Capitalism and Freedom:

    There is enormous inertia—a tyranny of the status quo—in private and especially governmental arrangements. Only a crisis—actual or perceived—produces real change. When that crisis occurs, the actions that are taken depend on the ideas that are lying around. That, I believe, is our basic function: to develop alternatives to existing policies, to keep them alive and available until the politically impossible becomes politically inevitable.

    Preface (1982 edition), p. ix

    I’m a bit sick of this idea being attributed to Emmanuel. Read Naomi Klein’s The Shock Doctrine.

  • Karen

    I am sick about this…my heart breaks for the parents and families. These sweet innocent children did not deserve this. I pray for all of them. Please think before you make comments about Autism and Asperger’s syndrome. Yes there are aggressive people on the spectrum…just like there are aggressive people NOT on the Autism spectrum….for someone to say that children with Asperger’s are aggressive because they dealt with 1 child in a daycare that was, is absurd…and obviously you are not very intelligent, working for minimum wage in a daycare does not make you an expert on child behavior and psychology. Most Autistic/Aspie kids have a very rigid sense of right and wrong…they follow the rules…it is in their nature. Most are very empathetic as well. If this kid lacked empathy it was not because of Autism/Aspergers…it was because there was some other issue…perhaps a mental illness….but Autism/Aspergers is NOT a mental illness.

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  • jerry

    This is all due to antidepressant drugs. These people are disconnected from reality while on iron withdrawal.

  • Mary Kelly-Langer

    Ten years ago I was substituting in an Illinois elementary school. I picked up a teacher’s journal and read some horrifying facts……The FDA at that time did not test psychotropic drugs on children. The kid responsible for the Columbine massacre was on such meds., as were, other young adults, responsible for similar killings.

    We need to address the abuse and over use of these drugs.

    I’ll bet Adam Lanza was on such meds.

  • linda

    that is so sad. They took all the Christmas decoratoins down thier. But Christmas is about Jesus and the kids are with Jesus. Most of the kids where 6 and 7.

  • Jill

    205, 206, 207- How are absolute bans working out for drugs, terrorism, murder, and rape?

  • marissa

    Please research PANDAS/ PANS Syndrome. These may not be mental illnesses at all, but an undetected/untreated infection caused by anything from Strep to Lymes. Drs in the US are not educated to diagnose this and the kids who have it are misdiagnosed with a mental disorder and treated with psychotropic medications which exacerbates the illness. Chances are good all these kids need is a strong dose of antibiotics. Look it up!!

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