Shocking… Obama’s Peace Plan with the Taliban Is in Shambles

What a disaster–
Barack Obama’s peace partners, the Taliban, released this video in September after they attacked an Afghan base and killed two US Marines.

It was just one of hundreds of attacks by the Taliban on US soldiers and bases.

Obama was hoping to talk the Taliban into a peace deal. But the Taliban had a different idea. Today Obama’s peace plan is in shambles.
The NY Times reported:

With the surge of American troops over and the Taliban still a potent threat, American generals and civilian officials acknowledge that they have all but written off what was once one of the cornerstones of their strategy to end the war here: battering the Taliban into a peace deal.

The once ambitious American plans for ending the war are now being replaced by the far more modest goal of setting the stage for the Afghans to work out a deal among themselves in the years after most Western forces depart, and to ensure Pakistan is on board with any eventual settlement. Military and diplomatic officials here and in Washington said that despite attempts to engage directly with Taliban leaders this year, they now expect that any significant progress will come only after 2014, once the bulk of NATO troops have left.

“I don’t see it happening in the next couple years,” said a senior coalition officer. He and a number of other officials spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the delicacy of the effort to open talks.

“It’s a very resilient enemy, and I’m not going to tell you it’s not,” the officer said. “It will be a constant battle, and it will be for years.”

It’s not clear what will happen to the Taliban’s taxpayer funded office in Qatar.

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  • Granny

    WHY would the United States of America even CONSIDER putting the Taleban back in power in Afghanistan willingly by means of any “peace” deal?

    Has Barack Obama forgotten the way the Taleban did and still do treat women – or did he never care? Here’s a bit of a reminder –

  • kato

    The entire Afghanistan effort is in shambles.

    The buck stops with the commander-in-chief.

    Remember: This is the war that liberals supported. Even granting that Bush’s invasion of Iraq distracted from Afghanistan, it’s clear that the situation in BOTH countries has become far worse since 2009. Our historic subprime president has effectively lost both wars, even though our careerist generals won’t admit it.

    One can see the result across the Muslim world. Islamists see the empty suit whereas America’s Section VIII parasites only see a sugar daddy and America’s public-sector unions only see an errand boy.

  • Patty

    And then there is this: OT

    Islamopproved: Hollywood Begins Hiring Muslim Clerics To Censor Movies Of Whatever They Deem Offensive To Islam

    You won’t be able to get your movie made until it’s Islamopproved by the appointed cleric. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

    Express Tribune: Film-makers in Hollywood are terrified of inciting further retribution against America over a string of new films showing the US mission to kill Osama Bin Laden.

    The shooting for two films is complete and they are scheduled for release before Christmas, with a third awaiting the go-ahead. All are under scrutiny after protests across the Islamic world and the killing of the US ambassador in the Libyan city of Benghazi over the anti-Islam US film on Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), according to the Daily Express.

    At least one fearful studio has asked an Islamic cleric to vet its script. Senior executives at another studio have entered into intense briefing sessions with US State Department officials to minimise or expunge any content which otherwise might be viewed as offensive.

    Filmmakers are worried that fundamentalists could target cinemas where the films are playing, with one admitting: “We are even asking if we dare release anything on this subject.”

  • bg


    hmmm, something must have gone wrong.. /s/


  • Patty

    When Leading (Even from Behind) Gets Tough, Obama Gets Going

    The Obama administration has withdrawn all official government personnel from Benghazi, the Libyan city where the country’s revolution was born and where the U.S. ambassador was killed last month, U.S. officials and local residents said Monday….

    “Everybody who was in Benghazi and posted there has been withdrawn,” State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said. She said she knew of no other U.S. government employees in the city to help investigate the attack or perform other work….

    The FBI has been unable to set up operations in Benghazi as part of the investigation into the deaths of Stevens, information manager Sean Smith and government contractors Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods. The absence complicates efforts to gather evidence and interview witnesses….

    “I don’t know why the Americans don’t come here,” said Wissam Bin Hamid, commander of the Libyan Shield Brigade, a militia that came under sustained attack while helping defend the second compound on Sept. 11. “Maybe they are afraid.”

    Yes, the Obama administration is afraid. Afraid to discuss to foreign policy issues here at home. Afraid to be candid about the threats we face. Afraid of the responsibilities of American world leadership. At one point the Obama administration pretended to lead—if only from behind. Now it’s simply in retreat. When leading (even from behind) gets tough, the Obama administration gets going.

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  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    Shocking… Obama’s Peace Plan with the Taliban Is in Shambles

    There’s nothing shocking about it.

    Send out professional warriors but prohibit them from conducting their trade professionally, then throw in civilian “leadership” cowardice, and this is the inevitable result.

  • there never was an obama “peace plan” with the taliban. there only has been an effort to help the taliban succeed in returning to power. the taliban maybe a enemy of the united states but is an ally of the left.

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  • stuart

    What is that odor. Oh yes, now I remember. It’s the smell of Vietnamization; or at least that’s what it was called in my day. Its another way of saying WE LOSE.
    Losing wars is an old habit for Democrats. It’s among their favorite pass times. Right up there with sending troops to a war zone and then telling them they can’t properly defend themselves. Been there, done that.

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  • “It’s not clear what will happen to the Taliban’s taxpayer funded office in Qatar.”

    Probably put up a sign saying “Paid For By American Dhimmi-crats” and turn it into a regional HQ for exporting terrorism…and of course, a GIGANTIC Mosque.

  • squeaky

    […diplomacy with international rogues, but talking to the Taliban has precedent. Between 1995 and 2000, declassified documents show American diplomats met on almost three dozen occasions with the group. The Taliban promised to close terror training camps, but always came up with an excuse not to allow inspections.]

  • bg


    Patty #3 – page 1 October 2, 2012 at 10:37 am

    posted about that the other day, also about several other
    issues “Islamists” involvement with government is given
    priority.. ie:

    Wake-up Call: Islamists Insert Themselves into Healthcare Debate

    bit more of much more here & here & here, in
    connecting links, and scroll threads for more..


  • bg


    more re: #14 – page 1 October 2, 2012 at 7:03 pm bg

    Obama Administration Stacking the Deck with Islamists

    [[Abdul-Malik also makes no bones about discussing how the election of President Obama is a step forward in the project of Islamization and the long term goal of Islamist domination which falls right in lock-step with that of the Muslim Brotherhood as revealed in their manifesto.

    “…even under the pressures that you and I know about, the deen of
    Islam is growing because people see even within all of this struggle it is
    better to be a Muslim under these conditions than to be a kaffir under
    any conditions… before Allah closes our eyes for the last time you will
    see Islam move from being the second largest religion in America-that’s
    where we are now- to being the first religion in America.”

    Obama Administration Gives 1.5 Billion to Muslim Brotherhood

    [“I consider the Brotherhood to be a threat to Egypt,” said one of
    the eight, prize winning novelist Gamal el-Ghetani. “We are living
    a moment that may be similar to (Adolf) Hitler’s rise to power.”]

    [“People here are against the United States helping Ennahda,” a
    journalist told Totten. “All Americans who come here are against
    the Islamists, but the American government is supporting them. I
    wish we had a good, modern, respectful Islamic party. I’m a Muslim
    and I’m proud of it, but I’m not proud of this party.”

    The government is seen as far too cozy with radical Salafists,
    looking the other way as the radicals stake a claim to the new
    society. Ennahda members joined the Salafists in a recent rally
    calling for Sharia law in Tunisia.]


  • bg


    only one choice..

    Mitt Romney: A New Course for the Middle East

    [But this Middle East policy will be undermined unless we restore the three
    sinews of our influence: our economic strength, our military strength and
    the strength of our values. That will require a very different set of policies
    from those President Obama is pursuing.

    The 20th century became an American Century because we were steadfast
    in defense of freedom. We made the painful sacrifices necessary to defeat
    totalitarianism in all of its guises. To defend ourselves and our allies, we
    paid the price in treasure and in soldiers who never came home.

    Our challenges are different now, but if the 21st century is to be another
    American Century, we need leaders who understand that keeping the
    peace requires American strength in all of its dimensions.]

    Reps may rob US, but they certainly won’t kill US vs our sworn enmey..


  • bg


    re: Patty #3 – page 1 October 2, 2012 at 10:37 am & bg et al

    Egyptian Film Director: Muslim Brotherhood
    May Soon Make Us ‘Miss the Days of Hitler

    [The host then pointed out that the revolution against the Mubarak
    regime resulted in the “smallest number of casualties of all the Arab
    revolutions.” He then asked Youssef what a revolution against the
    Muslim Brotherhood would look like.

    “A revolution against the Muslim Brotherhood would lead to
    bloodshed. When defeated, they know nothing but blood,”
    he replied.]


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