Pennsylvania Judge Throws Out Voter ID Laws
Posted by Jim Hoft on Tuesday, October 2, 2012, 10:16 AM
A Pennsylvania judge threw out the state’s photo ID law today. Voters will be asked for an ID this year but their vote will be counted if they don’t have one anyway.
CBS Philly reported:
Pennsylvania Commonwealth Court judge has ruled that the state’s controversial new voter ID law will stand, but voters without a valid picture ID card will still be able to cast their vote and have it counted this November.
Judge Robert Simpson has effectively decided to postpone part of the law. Following his ruling, voters will still be asked for a valid voter ID at the poll. But if they don’t have it, they will still be able to cast their vote in the usual manner.
The judge suspended the portion of the law that would have required voters without valid ID to cast what is called a “provisional” ballot, which would not be counted unless the voter could produce a valid photo ID within six days after the election.
Judge Simpson says he viewed the Pennsylvania Supreme Court’s recent directive (see related story) as ordering that he sever the illegal portion of the law concerning the provisional ballots.
In his 16-page ruling, the judge also said that the Department of the Commonwealth can continue to educate voters on the ID requirement and encourage voters to obtain ID. He says voters must be able to get the “Department of State” ID as an ID of first resort for voting — that is, they don’t have to first be rejected for a Penndot driver’s license or non-driver ID.
So, this November’s election will look very much like this past April’s primary, in which a “soft rollout” of the new law took place (related story). Voters were asked for ID by poll officials, but those without it could still vote.
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JenBee commented:
Well we can write off Pennsylvania. I’m certain Dem operatives such as Acorn and their ilk are jumping in SEIU buses right now, heading there to set up shop. Wonder how many thousands of dead people and cartoon characters will be voting Democrat this November.
averagemelon commented:
Well, I thought about moving to Pennsylvania but I certainly won’t now.
I’m not living in any state that would allow ANYONE AT ALL to decide who my president will be.
GotFreedom commented:
If it’s illegal to ask someone to show an ID to vote. . .then how come it’s not illegal to ask them to show ID to apply for welfare and food stamps?
*Proof of your identity such as driver’s license, library card, voter’s registration
*Social Security cards for all persons applying
*Proof of residence for all persons applying (homeless persons need only a mailing address)
(You must live in the county where the application is made.)
*Names and proof of age of all persons applying
*Proof of shelter costs; copies of rent or mortgage payments, insurance, tax receipts, utility bills
*Proof of income such as pay stubs, award letters or other documents showing amount received
*Information about resources such as cash on hand, money in checking/savings accounts, real estate, motor vehicles, etc.
http://www.nlsa.us/resources/benefits/pb3_application_tips.html
How do you get a Social Security Card to show when applying for welfare benefits if you don’t have a birth certificate? According to the Social Security Administration, We can accept only certain documents as proof of U.S. citizenship. These include a U.S. birth certificate or a U.S. passport. http://www.ssa.gov/ssnumber/ss5doc.htm
Even if you are a “non-citizen” applying for a Social Security card (http://www.ssa.gov/ssnumber/ss5doc.htm), you have to have a “photo ID”; it’s better known as a “Green Card” and it does have the immigrant’s picture on it (http://www.usimmigrationsupport.org/form-i-551-greencard.html)
How do you open a bank account without a photo ID, a mortgage, set up your utilities, etc without a photo ID and yet, if you want to receive welfare benefits, you have to show how much you have/pay, etc? If you have the necessary documents to open any of the aforementioned accounts, you have the necessary documents to get a voter ID (IMO).
Patty commented:
And then this: Obama Urges Companies to Break Federal Law for His Reelection
Yesterday, Lockheed Martin, a massive contractor, announced it had reached a “deal” with the White House and would not send out the legally required layoff notices. The Obama Administration had “interpreted” the law and found it would be “inappropriate” to send out the layoff notices.
More amazingly, the White House promised to pay any fines or penalties that might be leveled against the company for violating federal law. Read that again.
Yes, the White House just told companies to violate federal law and that, if they get in trouble for it, the government, i.e. taxpayers, will cover their fines.
Let’s remember, this federal law requiring the lay-off notices, the WARN Act, was passed in 1988 by a veto-proof Democrat Congress. It went into affect without President Reagan’s signature. It was an urgent matter for Democrats, until, apparently, they didn’t like the consequences of it.
Nothing must interfere with Obama’s reelection. Not even federal law.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/02/obama-urges-companies-to-break-federal-law-for-his-reelection
gman commented:
Our republic is being destroyed from within.
Patty commented:
And of course this: OT
Drop In Military Ballot Requests Indicate Team Obama Suppressing Vote Through Intentional Pentagon Negligence
A 92 percent drop in absentee-ballot requests by military personnel in Virginia is raising concerns that the Pentagon is failing to carry out a federal voting law.
With only 1,746 military voters in Virginia requesting absentee ballots so far this year — out of 126,251 service members in the state —the Military Voter Protection Project says the system has broken down.
And it’s not just in the Old Dominion. MVPP Executive Director Eric Eversole reports significant declines in absentee-ballot requests by service members across the nation.
Compiling data from Virginia, Florida, North Carolina, Illinois, Ohio, Alaska, Colorado and Nevada, Eversole’s organization found that military families have requested 55,510 absentee ballots so far this year. That’s a sharp decline from the 166,252 sought in those states in 2008.
http://patdollard.com/2012/10/drop-in-military-ballot-requests-indicate-team-obama-suppressing-vote-through-intentional-pentagon-negligence/
Orson Snow commented:
Ummmm….am I reading the same article you are? The Provisional Ballot aspect requires photo or proper ID within 6 days of voting, if not carrying proper ID at the time. So, the only drawback is that the voting totals might not be known for 6 days if there are a significant number of provisionals pending.
What’s not to like. If they can produce valid ID within 6 days the vote is valid. And, presumably, so it the voter.
This looks okay to me.
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Orson Snow commented:
Ah…my bad…he threw that part out. OKay…he’s a piker…understood.
OS
Finncrisp commented:
Provisional voting is what allows proper identification. This stooge judge basically declared an “all skate” because he can. This Nimrod needs to be recalled. Right away! His suspense is actually complete nullification.
JA Human commented:
Acorn, new name Organizing for America have been out in force! They work hand in hand with Obama campaign and will lie, cheat & steal the election however possible! With the Imbicile Holder (Obama’s good buddy) at the helm of Justice, we can expect no prosecution of any Liberal group caught in illegal acts. Pennsylvania sucks!
Joanne commented:
What a load of sheite. This judge is a traitor to the U.S. People living in the U.S. can vote even if they are not eligible to vote and people can run for president even if they are not eligible according to the constitution. Fraud will be rampant, and even if there are many discrepancies, Obama will be announced the winner right off the get go and that will be that.
Maybe people should make a stink about this judge ruling. How about taking to the streets in protest. It may be a novel idea for some, but these traitors are getting away with everything and no one is making any difference.
How come the Obama government is getting away with allowing people to have a say in the future of the U.S. when they don’t have the right to have a say.
john b commented:
yesterday, I went into a CVS to purchase Mucinex-D — which you do not need a prescription for, but is behind the druggist counter (in order to prevent purchases by methamphetimine makers). The druggist told me she needed a picture ID in order for me to make my purchase. I gave her my student ID. She said she needed to see a driver’s license! I asked her, what if I don’t have one — and she said I would not be able to purchase the MucinexD. I asked her what about poor people that don’t have a picture ID. She had no answer. I guess they get theirs some other way, because they certainly wouldn’t be denied it under Obamacare. Yet my vote is cancelled out by voters with no ID — illegals, “vote early vote often crowd, felons, college kids living temporarily in the state, etc.
Monkey Wrench commented:
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That part got thrown out today. The voter is no longer required to return with an ID later. They ask for the ID. If the voter doesn’t have one, they can vote anyway. Some states require the voter to sign a sworn statement that they are who they claim to be. Not sure if Penn has this requirement. If they don’t, they should.
This shouldn’t have any affect on this year’s election. The State of Penn was unable to find a single case of voter fraud in Penn when asked by the judge. so it’s obviously not happening in any significant way.
Voter fraud by voters is extremely rare. It requires too much work and would need to involve too many people to have a real impact on an election. The only real voter fraud to worry about are with the people counting the votes.
Romney will lose Penn this year anyway. His campaign pulled out of Penn a while back.
Joanne commented:
Orson Snow #7 – do you really think once the leftard media declares Obama to be the winner before these people come forth with proper ID, it will make any difference?
Not Likely commented:
Poor Teapeople, all your vote suppression techniques are being discarded.
Bill Mitchell commented:
If Romney cannot utterly destroy Obama in these debates he is the worst politician in the history of Earth.
Chris Light commented:
I started to say that the Judge made a good call here, thinking that the law had just passed very recently. It seems though, that the law was passed prior to April’s Primaries. I think that since the law was passed at that date, voters were given plenty of time to comply with the new law and work to get their photo identification.
These laws should have been in place years ago. Our leftist judicial system is working hard for the Left’s Liberal Agenda. We are in a world of hurt with the Media and the Judicial System in Liberals’ pockets.
bg commented:
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Jimmah won’t be happy.. /s/
scroll for a bit more..
<i.oh yeah..
Jim Hoft, known as the Gateway Pundit, published a series of
pictures on March 1, 2008, that showed members of Obama’s
Muslim family.
NOT FOUND, thinking this or this may be the link.. at any rate, there
seems to be numerous PAGES NOT FOUND, not to mention posts, of late.. *sigh*..
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tommy mc donnel commented:
another judge overrules the people. that should make all you anti-democracy people feel good.
DMG commented:
Well we can write off Pennsylvania. I’m certain Dem operatives such as Acorn and their ilk are jumping in SEIU buses right now, heading there to set up shop.
ACORN is so 2008. This year it’s Nathan Sproul and his Strategic Allied Consulting firm, but then you won’t see that on Fox.
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