Report: Obama Ambassador in Egypt Forbids US Marines From Carrying Live Ammo …Update: Pentagon Denies Report

Protesters destroy an American flag pulled down from the U.S. embassy in Cairo September 11, 2012. Egyptian protesters scaled the walls of the U.S. embassy on Tuesday, tore down the American flag and burned it during a protest over what they said was a film being produced in the United States that insulted Prophet Mohammad. (REUTERS/Mohamed Abd El Ghani)

Unbelievable. The US Ambassador to Egypt forbids US Marines at the embassy from carrying live rounds.
The Washington Free Beacon reported:

U.S. Marines defending the American embassy in Egypt were not permitted by the State Department to carry live ammunition, limiting their ability to respond to attacks like those this week on the U.S. consulate in Cairo.

Ambassador to Egypt Anne Patterson “did not permit U.S. Marine guards to carry live ammunition,” according to multiple reports on U.S. Marine Corps blogs spotted by Nightwatch. “She neutralized any U.S. military capability that was dedicated to preserve her life and protect the US Embassy.”

U.S. officials have yet to confirm or comment on the reports. Time magazine’s Battleland blog reported Thursday “Senior U.S. officials late Wednesday declined to discuss in detail the security at either Cairo or Benghazi, so answers may be slow in coming.”

If true, the reports indicate that Patterson shirked her obligation to protect U.S. interests, Nightwatch states.

Anne Patterson, US Ambassador to Egypt, greets Mohammad Badie, Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood leader, in Cairo in January. (Gulf Times)

The radical Islamist leaders in Egypt are planning another massive rally tomorrow at the US Embassy after Friday prayers.

UPDATE: The Pentagon later today denied this report.

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  • Screw the ammo, drop a Nuke on these rag heads…..

  • Lars

    Marines should strike, and I do not mean protest.

  • Rhinestone Suderman

    I think Anne should reconsider arming the marines—unless she wants to end up like Ambassador Stevens.

    Is anyone in Washington working on getting these guys out of Egypt?

  • Buffalobob

    Rubber bullets for the US Boarder Patrol, no bullets for the embassy Marine Guards. It’s the obama regine’s way.

  • Buffalobob

    obama regine, bow first ask questions later

  • commonwealth

    We have so many criminals in the current administration, we may require the equivalent to the Nurnberg trials. This ambassador has criminally neglected her responsibilities. Holder and Napolitano are implicated in Fast & Furious. Holder’s also implicated in numerous actions where he and his political appointees interfered with official business, overruling career professionals and ignoring the law. We learn as of yesterday that HHS Secretary Sebelius violated the Hatch Act and should be punished, though we know Obama — the lawbreaker-in-chief — will almost certainly do nothing.

    And going along with them all is a criminally corrupt news media that functions as an extra-legal Democratic party machine. No wonder the left must win at all costs.

  • robins111

    Figures, another Bammy appointment.

  • Texas_Treeroach

    What do they use when confronted by a hostile force? — harsh language?!?

    (Idiots are in charge)

  • robotech master

    Since its out and about… its all but an open secret that most US soldiers stationed anywhere are not giving ammo. Outside of MPs its rare to find armed US soldiers. Sure they carry guns with mags in the breech but they have no bullets.

    The easiest way wipe out the US military would be to host “joint exercises” and then attack them because its well known that during most “joint exercises” the military is forbidden from carrying live ammo or even blanks… while other countries will have fully armed soldiers doing the same training, often timing standing right next to the ammo less US soldiers.

  • dwd

    If the crazies weren’t motivated before, they will be now. What should be a heavily guarded fortress has been revealed as a soft target.

  • donh



  • Marsh626

    Ah, a V for Vendetta/Anon/Occupy mask. Yet another interesting data point linking the Western and international Left with “islamists” (evil devout muslims). They have common enemies afterall – you and I – and a similar revolutionary mindset.

  • dba…vagabond trader

    Bet they aren’t allowed to carry live ammo in any muzz sh*thole. Don’t want to offend the sensitive camel fckers.

  • mg4us

    WTF. . no real ammo?

    Agree with #6 Commonwealth. . .

    Obama, his administration. . . and the MSM talking heads and propagandists too. . .

  • Robert

    Hillary, Huma, Susan Rice, Samantha Powers, Anne Patterson.

    These women are charged with and\or responsible for implementing American foreign policy in the Middle East. As we are seeing, they are incompetent because they live in an illusion of security and do not see the world for what it is. Thus, entire outposts are ill-equipped to defend themselves when the barbarians storm the gates.

  • serfer62

    Attention Commadant of the Marine Corp

    recall embassy guards NOW!

  • Granny

    And now that it has been announced that the few Marines guarding the US Embassy in Cairo are not permitted to even CARRY live ammo, never mind load it, by a do-nothing political appointee of a do-nothing “president” who hasn’t even bothered to attend his national intelligence briefings, even on the day after a US Ambassador was brutally raped and murdered, the US Embassy in Cairo will be overrun tomorrow by the maddening hordes.

  • bigkahuna

    I say we put Libs and their families in the embassies and then ask them if they want marines to carry live ammo.

    If I was not allowed to do so as a marine there. I would quit, refuse duty or request transfer as the idiot wont give them the tools to do their job safely.

    Obama administration from the top down is a Clusterf*ck !

  • Robert

    They probably couldn’t get ammunition after all the different federal domestic agencies that bought hundreds of millions of rounds to use against … us?

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    Assuming this report is accurate, this ambassador should be removed from the post immediately. Embassy workers are being put at risk for the sake of political correctness.

    If she doesn’t like being around armed Marines, maybe she should get her own office in an unsecured complex and expose herself to danger, instead of unnecessarily endangering the lives of other people.

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  • therese

    A 23 year Army Veteran told me he was NOT even able to load his weapon until a bullet has buzzed by his head. He got out a year early. He called his Congressman and told him he was bringing his release papers to him, because he did NOT want Obama’s signature or any thing related to him in his house. Love That Soldier!

    FYI folks. You can begin voting 42 days PRIOR to the Nov. 6 Election. You can request a ballot from the City or County Election Board. The ballot will be mailed to you. You can take that ballot to a bank and they will notarize it and you then drop it in ballot box at bank. Please Please Folks do not convince yourself that your too busy Nov. 6 and can not tear yourself away from the office or from whatever it is you may be doing that day. Vote Absentee if you must.

  • Militant conservative

    Obama has sent the 50 marines to their deaths.

  • Rhinestone Suderman

    If the Ambassador doesn’t issue bullets, the marines should find some way to get their hands on some.

    Or just leave.

    Why should they sacrifice their lives for Obama’s Moslem Brotherhood?

  • vamoose

    0 Marines at Cairo Embassy
    1 Barney Fife (in pocket)

  • TruthInMotion

    Just more awesome foreign policy by Obama and the democrats. I feel so much safer now that I know who the real enemy is. I was in Iraq when Bush was president. I would never venture there now with Obama at the helm. I wouldn’t know what side to expect shots from.

  • shawny

    Rubber bullets for drug cartels and Muslim terrorists, not good enough for American citizens. For us they are arming with hollow points. Think about that.

  • donh

    How about they put some of those Macy Day parade baloons at the gates instead of putting real human lives on the line. ? ……..or post some life size cardboard stand ups of Rowland Atkinson as Mr Bean at the embassy door….>

  • Adirondack Patriot

    Q: What do you call a Marine in Egypt who can’t carry ammo?

    A: A hostage who will be beheaded on YouTube.

  • robotech master

    #24 September 13, 2012 at 12:57 pm
    Rhinestone Suderman commented:

    “If the Ambassador doesn’t issue bullets, the marines should find some way to get their hands on some. ”

    The embassy more then likely still keeps the ammo in its arms room. The problem is when bullets start flying the civs hide… and finding the muti-ppl and keys/combos needed to open said room takes time. Time that generally is not there. One of the reasons I always carried a wide range of knives was because you never knew when you would be placed in a dangerous “event” and be purposely left ammo less. Knives even fighting knives are pretty easy to keep hidden from the civs when on duty. Due to the way some embassies are setup it can be somewhat easy to engage in hand to hand combat at a choke point giving you at least the chance if trapped inside to hold out. Knife fighting is basically a lost but very very important art of combat. More so for the US Military in which it is all to common to be left with guns…. but no ammo for them.

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  • Fionnagh

    #23 So sorry to say that was my first thought as well.

  • if you are not going to arm the marines why have them there at all.

  • She probably fears the Marines would overreact to being killed.

  • I am NOT SEEING ALL COMMENTS and that is very frustrating. GP, the new comment system has a bug, please fix. Main page says there are over 31 comments on this thread, on page one I see 25 comments, when I go to page two, I only see 8 comments.

  • OH! Ok, I see the issue… page one has 25 comments, when I go to page two, the comments are renumbered starting with ONE again… so, my comment was #10, but in reality it is #35. :/


    Our Muslim Leader WANTS our marines to get killed. This will help him in the election. Obabbydaddy is a sissy and an appeaser who burns people alive with drones. If George Bush or Romney were president the leaders of Al Qaida would be killed by now. Moochelle Obamule is throwing hot sauce and catsup at innocent Waffle House employees while the world burns. Even Jesus can’t save White Christians now. Bend over and keep your powder dry, friends.

  • Multitude

    AoS links to the report that Obama and Clinton outsourced embassy security in Libya to local police and kept that exclusive outsourcing arrangement even after an IUD attack in June.

    Can anyone advise how many lives were lost due to Bain Capital’s outsourcing efforts?

  • Like i said before earlier this is like putting out welcome-mat……. get the man a chair here…..…….

  • Chris in N.Va.

    While remaining discrete, I will mention that when I was in the USAF stationed at a DoD facility here in the U.S. (back in the early 1970s, when various terrorist groups were also flexing their muscles), the Marine guards manning the building entrances were not allowed to have a clip in their holstered .45 sidearms.

    The ammo clips were to be kept safe and sound in their spiffy little white belt pouches. (“Excuse me, Sir, but could you halt your attack momentarily while I take the time to lock-and-load? Thank you so very much!”)

    Fortunately the ones who patrolled the greater area outside in jeeps with a variety of other weaponry were not so stupidly restricted.

    Nice to know our self-important Ambassadors are of similar mental capacity as the aforementioned side arms (look nice on the outside but empty and ineffectual on the inside). Typical of politicians and petty bureaucrats worldwide — small caliber and immense bore.

  • robotech master

    #13 September 13, 2012 at 1:21 pm
    Multitude commented:

    “AoS links to the report that Obama and Clinton outsourced embassy security in Libya to local police and kept that exclusive outsourcing arrangement even after an IUD attack in June.

    Can anyone advise how many lives were lost due to Bain Capital’s outsourcing efforts?”

    That seems very very odd. Most of the time they have local forces in front of the embassy to act as a buffer so that US guards are not directly pitted again the home country population. Normally what happens is the locals up and leave in these arab countries when a riot is scheduled. They are often given days sometimes weeks of notice before these events. I have never heard of an embassy that was strictly guarded solely to local country forces… however it is an obama world now anything is possible when it comes to pure insanity.

  • this is actually a long term policy, the sitting ambassador makes the decision.
    the pussies often choose no ammo.
    its a stupid decision that pacifists get to make that is paid for in blood by soldiers.

  • Monkey Wrench

    P2-#11 SMM

    Hopefully they will fix this. For now maybe we can include the page number when referring to other posts? So your post is Page 2, Number 11. Much better if each post has a unique number.

  • American Woman

    Yet, The MSM keeps saying the Islamic Fascist who lied his way into the presidency is winning in the polls.

    How did Obama handle the news of our embassies under siege? He went to a campaign event. Obama has no character and is an empty suit in an empty chair (just as Eastwood pointed out.)

  • Yrral Dleifsarb

    She probably has a “Wag more, bark less” bummer sticker.

  • Figured as much. Didn’t want some young Marine unloading his M4 into a crowd of crazed Egyptians. Embarrassing for the diplomats.

    Diplomats are as bad as lawyers.

  • bigkahuna

    With all these morons protesting and burning enbassies…wouldnt it be a great time to bomb them and say it was simply a gas explosion that killed them ?

    Thin the herd

  • no-fear

    No fear for this SoS! Hill is interviewing for a job with muslim BH president. a picture is worth a thousand words, and just as many lives

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  • gw

    Soooooo…how could the unarmed Marine Guards protect the Ambassador if the Egyptian Islamists/terrorists/mob break into the Embassy?

    In case of a breach in the compound defenses–and the Egyptian guards desert their posts/join in with the attackers–would there be time for Ambassador Patterson to reconsider her decision and let the Marines load their weapons with live ammo?

    Does she not realize that she & other American women in the compound would be violated by the mob?

  • Petra

    Al Jazeera reporting…

    Angry protests spread over anti-Islam film (“9 Coptic Egyptian-American on Airport Watch List”)

    Are Coptic Egyptian-Americans 1st amendment rights being subjugated….

    PS: We all know it’s got nothing to do with the movie.

  • no-fear

    These protests appear to be motivated by the film,” an official said

    The photo was captured as hillybilly wiped her mouth and adjusted her dress and got off her knees

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    Can anyone advise how many lives were lost due to Bain Capital’s outsourcing efforts?

    The Idiot Media doesn’t care. Since it’s a Democrat in the White House, the loss of lives is regrettable. If it were a Republican in the White House, the loss of life would be an outrage.

  • Redstate Red

    What a fool. I honestly hope she doesn’t suffer the same fate as the ambassador to Libya.

    …she’s probably perfectly safe since Muzzy men like other men.

  • Rachelle

    If the Marines are unable to protect this moron because she won’t let them have live ammo, I wonder if she will regret it if she ends up being dragged through the streets of Cairo and raped by fanatics?

    She will blame the Marines.

  • bg


    Breaking The War Mentality
    by Barack Obama
    March 10, 1983

    [“In fact, Hitler did strengthen the German establishment, but not
    exactly in the way the <b.bankers and businessmen had wanted; and
    now, fifty years later, it is clear who was using whom. [.] someone
    who leaves the established order in place.”

    ~ Barry Dunham Soetoro Barcak Hussein Obama (#16)

    [“I consider the Brotherhood to be a threat to Egypt,” [.] “We
    are living a moment that may be similar to (Adolf) Hitler’s rise
    to power.”

    ~ Gamal el-Ghetani (#4)

    more here (#3) here (#13) here (#19) in connecting links and threads..

    [noticing way too many older links going poof, again.. *sigh*]


  • Highlander

    The day this story broke, I was wondering how three Marines lost their lives in this fiasco, with no reports of any dead protestors. I mentioned it to my wife, and we both concluded that something just didn’t add up. Now, it all makes sense … sort of. How stupid is it to station defenseless Marines at a foreign embassy, surrounded by an angry, anti-American populous? You just have to wonder if, at some point, the military isn’t going to tire of this nonsense …

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  • Amash

    Bow first, ask questions later would be possible if the boy president ever attended a security meeting. You can’t ask questions by simply READING THE SUMMARY on security.
    Smartest guy in the room doesn’t need anyone else’s opinion.
    See what that has gotten us? Romney may not appear as forceful as we’d like. By damn anything is better than this loser!

  • bg


    re: #6 – page 3 September 13, 2012 at 2:12 pm bg

    just a sample:

    Obama (#13 – page 1)

    [Illinois: The first NP member heads to Congress, as Danny Davis wins an overwhelming 85% victory yesterday (he got a higher percentage of the vote in that district than the President). NP member and State Senate candidate Barack Obama won uncontested. Interestingly, it appears that the local Democratic machine is trying to distance itself from our folks. At a “Democratic Unity” march on Chicago’s West Side, a flyer invited community members to join with a host of local democratic candidates. The only two west-side Democrats not listed: NP members Danny Davis (U.S. House candidate) and Michael Chandler (Alderman and Ward Committeeman).]


    [“There is a statement made on nationalization [in Sessional Paper No.
    10]. True there are cases in which nationalization is bad, but there are,
    likewise, quite a few benefits to be derived from it. On this subject I
    would like to refer the authors to Prof. Bronferbrenner’s [sic] work on
    the “Appeals for confiscation in Economic Development”* [sic — the
    referenced article is titled “The Appeal of Confiscation in Economic
    Development”]. Nationalization should not be looked at only in terms
    of profitability alone, but also, or even more, on the benefit to society
    that such services render and on its importance in terms of public
    interest ..”]

    Obama’s Mama (will post more later)

    [When Ann Dunham arrived in Hawaii, she was a full fledged radical
    leftist and practitioner of “Critical Theory” (Is the examination and
    critique of society and culture.. Which had two different meaning”
    .. a stricter Marxist as a revisionism or visionary.]

    Obama’s Uncle Jerry (#6 – page 2)

    [Islam and BLT are theologies that have a political goal of making
    all politics submit to their demands. Submission is the political goal.]

    Obama’s Aunt Frances (#17 – page 1)

    She’s considered by many as the grandmother of using the American welfare state to implement revolution. Make people dependent on the government, overload the government rolls, and once government services become unsustainable, the people will rise up, overthrow the oppressive capitalist system, andfinally create income equality. Collapse the system and create a new one. [.]

    In a chilling and almost unbelievable editorial again in The Nation
    (”Mobilizing the Jobless,” January 10/17, 2011 edition), she calls
    on the jobless to rise up in a violent show of solidarity and force.
    As before, those calls are dripping with language of class struggle.
    Language she and her late husband Richard Cloward made popular
    in the 60s.

    “So where are the angry crowds, the demonstrations,
    sit-ins and unruly mobs?” she writes.[.]

    and then there’s the Ayer’s, Khalidi’s, Farrakhan’s, al-
    Mansour, Black Panthers, Rezko, Auchi, etc, etc, etc..


  • no bullets allow at some embassies and other embassies have no marines at all….Guess this what they meant when call Obama’s foreign policy Smart power!

  • lizzy84


    Sean Smith who was murdered {God rest his soul} was a player in an online game called Eve Online.He posted the day before the attack that he might end up dead as “the ‘police’ that guard the compound were taking pictures.”
    We had plenty of warning:

  • Poly Ester

    So, can we assume the Marines at the Libyan consulate were also unarmed?

  • thegoldman

    Ambassador to Egypt Anne Patterson….

    Time to throw her over the wall…

    just saying !

  • lizzy84

    @Poly Ester
    Do we know for a fact that our Marines were guarding the Consulate? Could the “security” have been outsourced?

  • Obviously the lives of our Marines are cheap to these individuals. Using them as cannon fodder doesn’t keep them awake at night.

    God help them if the next to die is one of mine.

  • jess

    Real Marines should’nt need any ammo

  • Harry Kovaire

    Sorry to advise you, but the CMC is a p u s s y . Look at his crying about pissing on dead taliban.

    #16 serfer62 commented:

    Attention Commadant of the Marine Corp

    recall embassy guards NOW!

  • stonedome

    picture shows patterson shaking the hand of badie, her future rapist and murderer…the next riot, the marines should hang her over the wall from a rope as bait while the load. worthless leftist twat

  • Joe College

    This news story is being suppressed. Enter search terms ‘marines live ammunition’ in Google news and you will find four or five ‘right wing’ news sites carrying the story, and no msm. In fact, I couldn’t even enter the search terms ‘live ammunition’ in my android device. It wouldn’t take the letters, but maybe that’s just something local and peculiar to my device.

  • Nancy Morey

    And we advertise this to the world………

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    Obviously the lives of our Marines are cheap to these individuals.

    What’s cheap are the lives of their cowardly civilian leadership. Five of them wouldn’t even be the equal of one member of our Armed Forces.

  • dunce

    She knew what was coming on 9-11 and escaped to Washington intending to sacrifice the marines to her far left political agenda. She was selected for the job because of her complete lack of morals exactly like most of obama’s appointees.

  • Struan

    I haven’t read through all the replies but, I’m sure someone has mentioned that Jimmah Carter ordered the Embassy Marines @ Teheran in ’79, to turn in all their ammunition. We know how that turned out. Jimmah Carter’s 2nd term writ large. I served w/Marine Detachmet London a long time ago – my heart goes out to those Marines – A tough job made even tougher by a State Dept totally infiltrated & compromised by Communists & Moslems.

  • Not Likely


  • Ghost

    RE: 1983 Beirut truck bomb that killed 241 Marines, from Deseret News
    “To signal they were neutral in the civil war, the Marines were stationed between warring factions. They made their base at Beirut International Airport — the tactically unwise low ground.

    They carried weapons, but the rules of engagement mostly forbade them from keeping a round in the chamber. They had orders not to shoot unless they were direct targets and knew for sure who had fired first.”

    and, from Wikipedia
    ” President Ronald Reagan appointed a military fact-finding committee… to investigate the bombing. The commission’s report found senior military officials responsible for security lapses and blamed the military chain of command for the disaster. It suggested that there might have been many fewer deaths if the barracks guards had carried loaded weapons…”

    in August 2011, over 20 SEALs were murdered in an inappropriate slow-moving helicopter because of incompetent (or worse?) senior leadership (how high up?)
    aside: the reported bin Laden raid was May 2011… just wanted to keep the timeline in order

    -this crap has been going on a long time, and not even RR was able to straighten everything out. He’s only our model.

    If you want to Restore America we’re gonna have to work long and hard and not take their crap anymore. In other words, we’re gonna hafta Fight Hard and Fight Dirty when we have to. Can you see now what we’re up against?

    once upon a time U.S. Marines shot flame-throwers into cave tunnels and roasted ’em alive- horrible, ain’t it?
    and you’ve lived a prosperous, peaceful life because of it.

    you might think, what about crime-ridden neighborhoods? uh-uh that ain’t Nothing! like this. You wanna see something like this? let Maobama win, you’ll get it

  • headsortailsstillsamecoin

    Seriously. The NOAA, the Social Security Administration, and DHS have LOTS of ammo, yet we don’t arm our Marines? Seriously?

  • I agree with #16. If we aren’t going to arm our Marine guards then what are they there for? What “protecting” can they do with no ammo for their weapons? And if this dumb bi*ch Anne Patterson should change her mind after the killings around the countryside then it’s to damn late for the Marines in Libya. And Obama thinks he can tell the family members who listen to him on TV and the radio and that is supposed to bring them solice, he’s got another think coming. He will never find these guys and neither will the Libyan security police or their military counter part. When the people themselves all over the country are committed to bringing about this Islamic takeover then they certainly aren’t going to be civilized about it in any way.

    I hate this bi*ch Anne Patterson!! She is guilty of murder just as if she was the very people who pulled the trigger killing our brave men who are risking their very lives at the hands of the State Dept. They have nothing to say that’s why they are not saying anything about the Marines not having any way to do the protecting they were given to do!! I believe she should be arrested and charge with neglect of duty and willful endangerment of the Marines under her charge!! I want her to feel the same terror these brave Marines had to have felt trying to figure out how they were going to escape death. I want her to suffer badly. I want her to go to the families of all these people who were murdered in Libya. She should be executed just like these Marines were.

  • Wait, the Pentagon shoots down a report originating from the Fact Free Bacon?

    Imagine my complete lack of any sort of shock.

  • Jay

    Did the Secy of State told the Ambassador’s in overseas embassy have no live rounds for the Marines and have less protect toward the Ambassador lives and others? if so then The Secy of State should be in charge of the death of an Ambassador and three others? will Holder’s investigate her decision to deny the Marines to protect American Soil the Ambassador in Egypt should be also be charge in the death of her other worker and others in that decision?
    If they State Department did make that policy then they senior personnel also be charge in the death and the families of these should sue the Federal Government with the Secy of state as the defendant and The Justice dept. should filed a murder charge against the Egypt Ambassador removal from her post and be charge

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  • Neil

    Whether the Marines had ammo or not, the Egytians attached our country. The last time someone attached us, 911, we went and killed the offenders. If the countries at hand do not want to take on the problem let us kill them. One more thought, what would the Russians do?

  • Other Side of the Coin

    I wonder what would happen if there was an embassy from another country in the US where armed guards shot down US civilians for protesting something against that country.
    Question: Would the manner in which the protesting was done justify that country’s soldiers for shooting and killing US citizens?

    Let’s not forget that a villian is a hero in his own story. We see them as terrorists, but might it be possible that we give enough justification to be seen as the same from their perspective?

    So much hatred and racism. How can we claim to be civilized?

  • Mountainmiester

    If the ambassador has the right to tell the Marines how to defend our embassy, then they should have the option not to be there at all. How can this liberal terrorist sympathizer think for one second she made a good decision.

    Please people, since our administration wont think we need to think for them and install a new administration.