It Begins… Federal Government Sues to Gain Control of Southern State’s Water Supply


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It’s an Obama world…
The federal government is suing to gain control of New Mexico’s water supply.
Las Cruces Sun-News reported:

Clearly, it was jolting news the New Mexico Legislature’s Water and Natural Resources Committee wasn’t prepared for.

During Monday’s committee meeting, in the Barbara Hubbard Room at the Pan American Center Annex, lawyers representing the New Mexico Office of the State Engineer, Elephant Butte Irrigation District, and the city of Las Cruces, told the committee that a state Water Court hearing will be at 9 a.m. Wednesday, at the Third Judicial Court Complex, 201 E. Picacho Ave., and the future management of state’s water supply could hang in the balance of the hearing’s outcome.

“Why hasn’t this been front-page news?” asked a surprised Clinton D. Harden Jr., a state senator from Clovis. “This is one of the biggest things ever. Frankly, what we’re looking at is under the camel’s nose. This is an unprecedented legal claim to water.”

The lawyers told the committee the U.S. government is apparently trying to take over legal management of the state’s water supply. The federal government has asserted claims for damages to groundwater in a natural resource damage case in New Mexico involving Chevron/Molycorp. The claim seeks for those damages to be awarded in the form of future water rights management.

The federal government’s lawsuit has caught the attention of the Western Governors’ Association.

“Claims by federal trustees of this nature are unprecedented and are of great concern to the Western states,” said Pam O. Inmann, executive director of the Western Governors’ Association, in a letter to Tom Vilsack, secretary of the U.S. Department of Agriculture, and Ken Salazar, secretary of the U.S. Department of the Interior. “…The ramifications of such legal position extend to the very heart of the Western states exclusive ownership and/or management and control of the groundwater resources within their respective boundaries.”

Jay Stein, a lawyer representing the city of Las Cruces, who has filed as an intervener in the case, said the outcome of the hearing could potentially affect the city’s water supply.

“In the pending water rights adjudication in state district court, here in Las Cruces, the court has turned to the United States’ claims. Foremost among these is the issue of the United States’ claims to “groundwater’ or to “project water in the ground,’ as they have termed it. These claims are not supported by any actual beneficial use of groundwater. Nor are they supported by state law which governs proceedings in the adjudication.

“These water claims are unqualified but potentially could amount to hundreds of thousands of acre-feet per year.”

City Utilities Director Jorge Garcia later added, “If the feds end up owning the groundwater, it would negatively affect any future water planning the city would want to do.”

Some legislators vented their frustrations with federal government.

“This is the first I’ve heard of this contrived conspiracy,” Harden said.

“Many times the federal government has no common sense what so ever,” said Rep. Candy Spence Ezzell, R-Roswell.

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  • dba…vagabond trader

    So many busy little commie hands. They know their end is near.

    Stay alert, it is going to get worse.

  • http://dustinstockton.com/ bg
  • John

    While there are some reservoirs in New Mexico, much of the population gets its drinking water from underground sources. So an action like this would be the federal government taking over city and county drinking supplies and basically telling them how many people and/or businesses they could have tapping into it (and since several of the Southern New Mexico aquifers like Capitan Reef loop back into Texas — when the Bureau of Land Management has little sway as compared to other western states — this should be a fun donneybrook in the courts if the feds go ahead with their action).

  • Stonedome

    If the cowboy hat wearing puke face la raza member salazar has his fingerprints on it, you know it has to do with killing off fossil fuel energy production…find the commies in your local government and stop just being concerned…fight back with every means necessary

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  • Blackbird

    Executive order in 3..2..1..
    Because that is the way Obama rolls.

  • rumcrook

    Silly women says feds have no common sense, this is about power & control not common sense.

  • Militant conservative

    Obama= evil.

    Anything he does, no good will come of it.

  • http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/07/lost-loses-34-us-senators-oppose-law-of-the-sea-treaty/#comment-723181 bg

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    how soon we forget:

    Executive Order 13547 –Stewardship of
    the Ocean, Our Coasts, and the Great Lakes

    ‘Timeline to Global Governance’

    [Means and Methods

    . Unelected boards, councils and commissions. Responsibilities of government are assigned to unelected people – accountable to nobody but the people who are funding them. These unelected bodies are equivalent to communist soviets. They take direction from unseen entities usually national and international bodies to implement the policies, rules and regulations to enable the globalist agenda. …

    . Regionalization. The implementation of regional, unelected government structures cannabalizes the powers of our traditional representative government structures within the legal jurisdictions we all understand. Regional structures are hidden in the sense that they are not recognized by the public and there is no accountability to the public. Here again, unelected regional commissions answer to hidden powers and they implement the agendas of those powers. The agenda is dissolution of our nation – our national sovereignty as the global governance system rises. The war in the Middle East is to create a regional governance structure MEFTA superimposed on existing governments. MEFTA will put the Middle East in the Global trading system under the WTO – which is an organization run by and for the multinational corporations. The WTO and ‘free trade’ agreements are what have been used to gut our economy. They established a rigged game in which American domestic businesses and in fact, any domestic businesses in virtually any country (except Communist China and Socialist India) can’t succeed. These agreements basically sell market share of domestic businesses to multinational corporations – who then flood the market with products (and human capital) at costs lower than the domestic businesses can attain. The domestic business goes out of business – and the multinational picks up the market share.

    . Loss of Private Property Rights – including water rights. Environmental front groups are in the lead on this. The government provides the regulation making it virtually impossible for land owners to keep their property. Environmental groups like Nature Conservancy then steps in to buy the property.

    . Official obliviousness to anarchists and foreigners on our soil demonstrating for rights for non-citizens. They make a pretense of protecting our borders while encouraging illegal aliens in every way possible.

    . They are flooding our labor markets with cheap foreign labor – taking jobs away from American citizens which impoverishes them. It’s difficult for poor people to organize and fight back in any way other than physical destruction. The Congress has become a corrupt government that is for sale to the highest bidders. Impoverished Americans have to pull with a Congress that is bought and paid for by corporate lobbyists.

    . They are selling off U.S. assets – the going out of business sale.]

    much more here (#24) & here (#39) & here (#59) in
    connecting links & threads & there’s still tons more..

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  • dba…vagabond trader

    Yup, time to herd all those useless drinkers and eaters off the land. Into crumbling cities to shore up the tax base and fund more entitlement programs for the vote.

  • SeniorD

    This case could go as far as permitting Los Angeles laying claim to the entire Colorado River. Just think what the Democrat Communist Legislature could do with all that water.

    If I remember my Constitutional history, each State is considered sovereign. Mineral and water rights are granted by the State, not the over bearing Federal Regime.

  • http://evilbloggerlady.blogspot.com EBL

    I hate to say I told you so, but…New Mexico: This is what happens when you vote for Obama.

    Oregon better watch out, what goes around comes around…

  • snap boy

    And after New Mexico, the feds will come after Colorado and Nevada and Iowa. Are all those leaning Obama voters – those with swimming pools, the farmers with irrigation needs, those who water lawns and gardens – watching what the greenies are now doing?

  • njartist49

    This is also what happens when you enter the U.S.A. as a “state”, but the Central Gov’t still owns/controls most of the territory within your so-called state borders; and your faux “state” is just a set of islands within those borders: take a look at a map federal land ownership within states.

  • John

    #13 August 1, 2012 at 9:15 am
    snap boy commented:

    And after New Mexico, the feds will come after Colorado and Nevada and Iowa.

    Depending on the scope of the feds claim to control underground aquifers, they could attempt to use this ruling to branch out.

    Take a look at the map of the Ogallala Aquifer — a substantial portion of its southwestern edge is under Eastern New Mexico. If the government were to claim that any aquifer running beneath N.M. gave them jurisdiction over that entire aquifer, then farmers, ranchers, counties and cities in Texas, Colorado, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Wyoming and South Dakota could also see their groundwater rights put under federal oversight.

  • even steven

    Most federal bureaucracies should be eliminated, including the Dept. of the Interior. They are staffed with unionized, tax-sucking, power-mad bureaucrats who do not answer to the citizens of the United States.

  • feduptoo

    Have you heard of the U.N. plan called, Agenda 21? It’s been sitting around at the U.N.for many years now.

    That plan consists of many things, but some are to round people up, put them in a city where they walk to work, walk to shop, and all the other land is grabbed by our Federal government.
    Similar to Obama’s new Chevy Volt Village!!

    You just know that our elites will live where they want to, taking over lands they took!

    They want to control our waterways, and how we use them, including types of boats that would be allowed in waters.

    If the people in NM do not rise up and put an end to this, we will see it start happening everywhere!

  • bobdog

    Does New Mexico engage in interstate commerce?

    Fine. We got this. It’s in the Constitution.

  • Stan

    The war on the West continues unabated. What have we done to deserve this? Oh yeah, most of us vote Republican and the Dimwits are not very happy with that.

  • http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/07/lost-loses-34-us-senators-oppose-law-of-the-sea-treaty/#comment-723181 bg

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    dba #10 August 1, 2012 at 9:04 am

    precisely..

    ACORN & DODD

    all it’s going to take is a little more time before the death panels (#4) &
    after birth abortions (#45) kick into full speed, and all the electees are set in place.. /serious sarc/

    [please scroll threads for more]

    again, we are not the target per se..

    our, being further indoctrinated (as i type) by the
    already brainwashed, future generations are..

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  • taffy57

    They are a blue state. I am sure they are FINE with the government taking over.

  • dba…vagabond trader

    @BG:

    Commies are pushing birth control pills and sterilization with great enthusiasm via he11care. One of the very first mandates in the bill, goes into law today. Prior to this the only time I recall grabberment regulating and promoting reproduction habits of citizens was from China and before that nazi Germany.

  • Affenhauer

    #14, #16:
    I’m moving to the first state that a) seizes back federally ‘owned’ land and b) expels all fed officials that aren’t sanctioned by the Constitution. Maybe I should run for governor and do it in VA…

  • dba…vagabond trader

    Also, whoever controls the water, controls the food supply.

  • http://rbo2.com/2012/07/24/video-fool-me-twice-obamas-devastating-2nd-term-plans-revealed/ bg

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    dba #22 August 1, 2012 at 9:53 am

    July 31, 2012, 2012


    House Defeats Ceremonial DC Late Term Abortion Bill

    [The House participated in perhaps one of the year’s most blatant
    displays of political kabuki theater Tuesday, shooting down a ban
    on late term abortions in the District of Columbia that had virtually
    no chance of passing.

    Majority Leader Eric Cantor had scheduled the abortion vote – a major
    priority of the National Right to Life Committee – despite the objections
    of moderates and even some conservatives who viewed the vote as
    little more than bait for the conservative base.

    Indeed, leadership could have brought the bill to the floor under a
    “rule” – which would mean it only needed 218 votes for passage,
    far fewer than the number of sponsors of the bill.

    But instead Cantor brought the bill to the floor “under suspension,” a
    process that requires two thirds of members present in the chamber
    to vote for the bill – a far higher threshold that Republicans never had
    a chance of meeting.

    As a result, the bill failed 220 to 154.]

    ABORT CONGRESS – TERM LIMITS!!

    ==

  • http://www.truthandcommonsense.com archer52

    Should read my book. Sooner or later some federal agency is going to try and claim ownership of something dear to the people out West and you’ll see a shooting war start.

    The sad thing is the bureaucrats that made the ruling, the elitists that run the country won’t be anywhere near it. It will be some federal agent and his team, trying to make a living, being ordered to “suppress” those unruly soon to be identified as “domestic terrorists”.

    The only way my book doesn’t become a history lesson is if we defeat Obama in November. Unleased by the worry of reelection, this guy will make Chavez and Castro look like pre-school amateurs.

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  • PJ

    The feds have already taken control of water in CA and turned off water to the Central Valley. They have ruined agriculture there. All to return the delta to its “natural” state.

    Believe me, they hate humans and their cities.

  • http://rbo2.com/2012/07/24/video-fool-me-twice-obamas-devastating-2nd-term-plans-revealed/ bg

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    dba #24 August 1, 2012 at 9:57 am

    re: #9 August 1, 2012 at 9:02 am bg

    S510 (#30)

    Food Safety Modernization Act

    [1. It puts all US food and all US farms under
    Homeland Security and the Department of Defense

    2. It would end US sovereignty over its own food
    supply by insisting on compliance with the WTO,

    3. It would allow the government, under Maritime Law, to define the
    introduction of any food into commerce (even direct sales between
    individuals) as smuggling

    4. It imposes Codex Alimentarius on the
    US, a global system of control over food.

    5. It would remove the right to clean,
    store and thus own seed in the US,

    6. It includes NAIS, an animal traceability program that
    threatens all small farmers and ranchers raising animals.

    7. It extends a failed and destructive HACCP to all food, thus
    threatening to do to all local food production and farming what
    HACCP did to meat production

    8. It deconstructs what is left of the American economy.

    9. It would allow the government to mandate antibiotics,
    hormones, slaughterhouse waste, pesticides and GMOs

    10. It uses food crimes as the entry into police state power
    and control. The bill postpones defining all the regulations
    to be imposed; postpones defining crimes to be punished,
    postpones defining penalties to be applied. It removes
    fundamental constitutional protections from all citizens in
    the country, making them subject to a corporate tribunal
    with unlimited power and penalties, and without judicial
    review.]

    more at links, in connecting links & scroll threads for more..

    “21 Issues for the 21st Century” aka: project 21, Google it..

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  • http://rbo2.com/2012/07/24/video-fool-me-twice-obamas-devastating-2nd-term-plans-revealed/ bg

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    re: #29 August 1, 2012 at 10:22 am bg

    re: “21 Issues for the 21st Century” aka: project 21, Google it..

    my apologies.. Agenda 21

    missing link, scroll thread for more, and Google it.. 😉

    ==

  • dunce

    The liberal majority in that state deserves this sodomy, but the conservatives will suffer along with the the consenting sex partners.

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  • http://ConservativeOutlooks LadyImpactOhio

    According to Albuquerque paper Feds want control because some residents are illegally pumping and interfering with farmers’ irrigation and NM isn’t doing anything about it. We’ll see.

    http://www.abqjournal.com/main/2012/08/01/news/feds-entitled-to-nm-water.html

  • Sasja

    This regime has not forgotten suburbia. Its masterful plan, through what they call regionalizing, will, via equalization, redistribute taxes from suburbia to their cash-strapped cities. As I understand it, equalization merges the suburbs’ housing, schools, and transportation into the cities thereby giving the cities the tax revenues otherwise kept in suburbia. Those of you who fled, say Chicago, to the outer regions and still plan to vote for our beloved nightmare currently residing in the WH. Beware. Your punishment for leaving your failed big cities for a thriving, and probably safer, environment has just begun.

    I was going to add that I hope you enjoy your self-made hell if you help elect this devil to another term. Sadly, those who are trying to stop this madness will be dragged into it with you.

  • L.E. Liesner

    You have to remember that the State of New Mexico’s Legislature has been run by the Democrats for the last 80 years. Knowing that, it should remove all doubt as to the fact that they didn’t have a clue this was coming down the pipe. Corruption runs rampant and nobody is watching the store. Their only accomplishment in 80 years is that they kept the state from moving forward. The longer the Democrats control a state’s economy, the more stagnant it gets.

  • http://Facebook Lawrence Henry

    Lawrence Henry Simple solution: Our Constitution allows states the sovereignty of themselves from encroachment by the Fed. The Governor of New Mexico must expand and heavily arm the states militia, both organized and civilian, give notice to the Fed that any attempt by Fed agents to violate the state Constitution or laws of the state will be met with arrest and or assault upon said agents, by the states militia/ citizens and will be lawfully justified under authority of the U.S. Constitution and the Constitution of the State of New Mexico. The Governor should then grant authority and pardoning to the armed citizenry to defend themselves, the organized militia and the state from illegalities committed by personnel of the Fed. Government. Totally lawful and permitted by the U.S. Constitution. ALL 50 States should follow suit as prescribed.
    2 minutes ago

  • Jeannie

    The first hint was that guy last week who was being imprisoned AND fined for collecting water on his property. They tried to pretend that he was blocking waterways but gave the game away when they showed that any rainwater collected on the property belongs to the state.

    This stuff needs to be SHOUTED. I know half our population is on Cymbalta or something equally zombie inducing, but if we paint pretty pictures like above even they may get it.

  • Jeannie

    Sasja, about two months ago there was an article disclosing that backwoods residents of states were being threatened with imprisonment..essentially for living off the grid and providing for themselves.

    It is absolutely essential for oppressive governments to have control of all things life sustaining and the aim is for everyone to be herded onto the grid, the cities.

  • Westie

    I blame Lincoln, the damn Whigs, the Stoopid Party called GOPe and the Leftist Tools!

  • Mama Grizzly

    It is getting SO BAD out there (and here).

    Water?

    Okay, this is what they have to do to get power:

    Destroy the economy and construct a poverty class that outnumbers producers.
    Squeeze ’em.
    They will demand government intervention.
    Control travel.
    Control medicine.
    Control food.
    Control water.
    Dismantle the military.
    Replace with military-against-civilian forces.

    The next thing is to cause (while seeming blameless) a major disaster in order to suspend elections and institute marshal law. Or easier, have our votes counted overseas . . . like outsource them to Venzuela . . . wait . . . uh-oh.

    I am SO FREAKING worried about the O-Beast staying in office. Sometimes I wake up at night really tense, because I know what he’s doing.

    Get out and get the vote for Romney. A decent AMERICAN.

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  • Ann

    When will the people of this country understand that United Nations Agenda 21 is being implemented in every state, county, and state. If you don’t understand what it is and how it got started you must see sites like http://www.freedomadvocates.org. It is being implemented under the guise of “sustainable development”, “smart growth”, and a lot of other environmental names. However, it’s to control all resources, private property, and every aspect of your life. If you folks don’t fight this and NOT comply, you are headed for one shock of your life.

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  • Colleen

    BG’s comment Aug 1, 2012 said it all. Look up Iclei USA or Iclei Canada, Sustainable Development Agenda 21. the UN Agenda for the 21st century. You can blame Obama all you like. He is just one of their puppets, Same as the Bush’s, Romney and the rest of the clan. they’re all in it together. Their goal is the NWO, it’s all on track. Agenda 21 needs to be stopped Now. Get all the NGO’s out of your local governments. Send them right back to the UN. How do we get the country out of the UN and the UN out of the country. What good has the UN done for any one? The UN has one goal in mind and that is to bring in the New World Order, the One World Government. Obama is an evil man, but he is only the puppet. There is a shadow government that runs the USA, Mitt Romney is the one they have picked….No one should vote, picket the poling stations. let them know you know it is a sham. a fraud.

  • JBean

    What is the current status of this issue? THank you.