Romney-Santorum Locked in Tight Michigan Race – 9% of Voters Are Democrats …Update: Mitt Wins Michigan

Governor Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum are locked in a tight race in Michigan. FOX News reported that 9% of voters are Democrats in Michigan.

FOX News announced that Mitt Romney won his home state Michigan.


Mitt roars back with two big wins

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  • Missy8s

    Have you figured out why “open primaries” should be banned?

    This whole mess is a “vote for the loser” (see Howard Stern and Sanjaya) designed to manipulate the outcome, that being said I am a Santorum fan but not necessarily a supporter.

    Exactly whose “party primary” is this again???

    Either the RNC changes the open primary rules in future elections, assuming there are any future elections if President Pond Scum gets reelected, or the RNC ends, period.

  • bg

    ++

    Dem votes:

    that’s how Paul almost won Iowa,
    well, he did for a day at any rate..

    ==

  • donh

    but with 20% reporting and Rmoney with just a 10,000 vote lead…Karl Rove is drooling to call it for Rmoney at the peak prime time hour of 9:30.

  • Liz

    Dems for Santorum, dems for Obama. Good luck with Rick’s new strategy.

  • Mad Hatter

    #1
    Missy8s commented:

    “President Pond Scum”

    LOL, good stuff.

    If you look at the results so far in Michigan, and Gingrich is hurting Santorum. You take just 70% of those who voted for Newt and add them to Ricks column, Santorum would be up around 8,300 votes.

    Just saying.

  • Skandia Recluse

    What was the turn out? Ten percent?

  • Bill Mitchell

    Romney is taking the large population areas easily. This is a clear victory.

    Santorum’s momentum goes poof.

  • Bill Mitchell

    Santorum is going to regret pandering to Democrats in Michigan. That probably lost him as many Republican votes as he got.

  • TheGoldGeneral

    Remember, if 9% of Republicans voted in a dem primary, they would be disgruntle Republicans, but since these are dems, they are very happy with Shambarack and just want to mess with the Republican primary

  • donh

    Rmoney is not breaking out the lead Rove predicted by his reviews of early returns in large populations. Rmoney is now clinging to 40% with 62% in. He has lost a lot of counties won vs McCain.

  • Steven

    The dems are voting for Rick b/c they want him to be the nominee. Only to vote against him in the general.

    Those dems know how to win an election.

    1.8 million dead people will be voting this election.

  • FurryGuy

    #10 February 28, 2012 at 9:05 pm
    donh commented:

    Romney lost to McCain and we should expect him to beat the guy who beat the candidate who won the GOP nomination in 2008?

    Doing the same thing over, thinking squishy moderates will win in the general, and expecting different results.

  • Mad Hatter

    There has been some good news today, another RINO is put out to pasture.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/report-olympia-snowe-will-retire_632963.html

  • FurryGuy

    Well, FNC is gleefully calling Michigan for Romney, the talking heads sounding VERY relieved that Romney wasn’t embarrassed by a loss. So much for fair and balanced. *spit*

  • Steven

    Wonder why Clinton never addressed Bush as President when he was running against him?

    He always referred to him by name only. That must be one of those mind control things they talk about for the common folks.

  • Rev. Wright ain’t right upstairs

    Is it too late to tell Michigan voters that Santorum was born in Michigan and his father was a prominent politician there?

    Oh well…

  • bg

    ++

    Steven #15 February 28, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    the MSM always referred to President GWB as Bush as Mr. Bush..

    “double Marxist standard” :ala: Islamism is a “one way street”..

    ==

  • Rev. Wright ain’t right upstairs

    Mitt McRomneyCain gave a shout out to his other half, John McCain.

    Yea, we all know how well McCain did last time.

  • Sparky

    The RNC should have immediately stepped in and sanctioned Santorum over actively soliciting Democrat votes in a Republican primary. This is total lunacy!

    Santorum has turned into a total fool and a spoiler. I hope this desperate little zealot falls flat on his face.

    Imagine asking the enemy to vote for you!

  • Sasja

    This just gets funner and funner. We have quite a few conservative dims here. They just might go for this guy rather than Zero. It will be interesting to see come next week.

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/22/ann-coulter-to-campaign-for-democratic-presidential-candidate-randall-terry/

  • Sasja

    Furry Guy.

    I think the RINO thinking is, even tho we lose the presidential race, Mittens will be able to pull enough votes to win the Senate and keep the GOP majority in the House. They are also counting on discouraging the radical factions (you know, the bitter clingers) in the party so we don’t rear our ugly heads next time they tell us whom we should support.
    They have as much disdain for us conservatives as the dims.

  • http://beatbarack.blogspot.com/ Ryan

    Solid victory speech by Mitt Romney in Michigan.

  • The Elector of Saxony

    “Romney lost to McCain and we should expect him to beat the guy who beat the candidate who won the GOP nomination in 2008?”

    “Doing the same thing over, thinking squishy moderates will win in the general, and expecting different results.”

    That’s why we’re going to lose in November. Just get ready for a few more Elana Kagan’s on the Supreme Court to shift the balance for a generation. How will the evangelicals feel when Obama appoints those Justices, knowing that instead Newt would have been appointing the next generation of Scalia’s and Thomases? The Media is salivating over both of these guys because they are weak and are going to get torn to shreds.

    If it’s between Romney, who can’t go twenty seconds without clumsily reminding people that he shaves with a gold razor and craps on a diamond toilet on his private jet, and Santorum, the Church Lady, Obama won’t even need his campaign money. He can just point to those two tongue-tied idiots and say, “You want that? Instead of super-cool Me? They can’t even tell you what they want to achieve other than keepin you from gettin a condom.” America will answer with a resounding “No.”

    Sure wish there was someone in the race who could best Obama in a debate and had, oh, ya know, a real, coherent plan to tackle the immense challenges that face our Nation. None of which is planning an Olympics, crafting Obamacare light, or worrying about birth control and Satan! Health care, jobs, energy, terrorists. Those are the only issues on which we can win. Romney and Santorum have no credibility on any of them!

  • Sanmon

    You do know that Santorum won the majority of delegates in Michigan:
    Estimated delegates 19 Santorum 11 Mitt. People forget the big picture. ooops!

    Delegates are proportional allocated by Congressional Districts oooops!
    Mitt wanted it that way oooops!

  • Redwine

    This open primary crap needs to be stopped. Primary voters need to register to their party.

  • Sanmon

    Arizona also broke a party rule that requires states holding contests before April to use some sort of proportional system to award delegates.

    Arizona’s winner-take-all format could open the state’s delegation to a challenge before the party’s contest committee this summer, according to the RNC. The issue could ultimately be resolved at the national convention in Tampa, Fla.

    Big ooops for Mitt

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    Exactly whose “party primary” is this again???

    Now you know why it’s called “The Stupid Party”…

  • Sandy

    Santorum’s cheap trick didn’t work — thank God. I think President Romney has a nice ring to it.

  • Sandy

    #25 February 28, 2012 at 10:25 pm
    Redwine commented:

    This open primary crap needs to be stopped. Primary voters need to register to their party.

    ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
    From your mouth to God’s ears.

  • Patty

    Romney: “It’s very easy to excite the base with incendiary comments”

    Via TPM, a valentine from the nominal frontrunner to grassroots conservatives on the day of the big vote in Michigan. On the one hand, it is true that calling the Chinese “motherf***ers” or, say, mumbling about O’s birth certificate can get you traction with some populists who are spoiling for a take-it-to-’em campaign in November. Four words, my friends: “Republican frontrunner Donald Trump.”

    On the other hand, John McCormack’s right. The reason we’ve cycled through Bachmann, Perry, Cain, Gingrich, and now Santorum as top-tier challengers to Mitt isn’t because they’ve sequentially one-upped each other in how much tasty rhetorical red meat they’re willing to plate. It’s because the base doesn’t trust Romney and will seize on whoever the most viable alternative is at any given moment. (That’s why Newt hasn’t dropped out. He’s one Santorum stumble away from being legit again and he knows it.) Look no further than the trends in national polling: Newt’s decline right after Florida almost perfectly coincides with Santorum’s surge. Anti-Romney voters simply dropped one (comparatively) conservative Not Mitt for another. What’s “exciting” them is their horror at nominating an uncharismatic serial flip-flopper whom they disdain, and who obviously disdains them. And tied up in all of this, of course, is the conventional wisdom that using “incendiary” rhetoric to win primary votes will make the eventual nominee less viable in the general by dragging him further away from the center. Given Romney’s track record of political opportunism, what would happen if you could prove to him statistically that calling Obama a socialist would attract independents in the general election instead of driving them away? Would Mitt still object to using that term on principle or would it be time for a second look at red meat? That is to say, how much of his smugness in the clip is justified by being genuinely above-the-fray and how much of it is just a pose aimed at dismissing Santorum as a cheap rhetorical bottom-feeder?

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/02/28/romney-its-very-easy-to-excite-the-base-with-incendiary-comments/comment-page-1/#comments

  • Patty

    OT

    Georgetown co-ed: Please pay for us to have sex … We’re going broke buying birth control 😆

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/02/28/georgetown-co-ed-please-pay-for-us-to-have-sex-were-going-broke-buying-birth-control/

    Story here and btw, Target sells birth control for $9.00 for month supply. Do the math

  • Patty

    OT

    Here we go!! He is getting cocky again!! :(

    “Obama preserves civilian handling of terrorism cases”

    http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/02/obama-preserves-civilian-handling-of-terrorism-cases-115866.html

  • Patty

    Drudge REPORT PICTURE HEADLINE

    http://www.drudgereport.com/

    See Obama picture
    caption: Romney wins some more

  • Mama Grizzly

    Yeah, #33, above–that photo of Captain Zero reveals the raging despot inside. He wants so badly to be Dictator and he’s getting really angry at being challenged. Narcissists don’t take it well . . .

    EXCELLENT! (about the Romney win) We are so relieved.

    We found that one of tne of the best things to do is to go to youtube and just listen (don’t watch) his MI speech–we only had a radio tonight at the time, and Mitt was absolutely terrific.

    Romney takes Obama apart with style and class.

  • Skinner

    Obama is toast, and he knows it.

    Panick is setting in at the WH.

    Rodney’s double win was not in the cards, they are about to run scared.

    I have said it before and here it is again – the media has screwed Obama by protecting him.

    As they focus now on Rubio the easy response will be where the hell was this level of investigation in 2008?

    Obama is going to lose, blacks will riot, lives will be harmed, and we shall be rid of this turd.

  • http://evilbloggerlady.blogspot.com EBL
  • http://www.theodoresworld.net/ Wild Thing

    So glad Romney won Mich. and AZ.

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  • Kaitian

    @24

    Not true when Romney won out . Romney will have at 14 down from pre-penalty 21 and Santorum will have 12 down from pre-penalty rule 18. Wishful thinking by you.

    Anyways, Romney had an increase of 17.5% voters since the last election in 2008. Paul had an increase of 53%. Santorum and Gingrich combined together only had an increase of 11% voters since 2008.

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  • http://www.edmartinformissouri.com Tom63010

    Two things certain since 1988 is that every four years there is a 29th day in February and in November I will be holding my nose while voting for a Republican RINO! Hopefully RINO Romney will govern as a Conservative.

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  • Steve

    Watch Mitt Romney’s Victory Speech after winning AZ and MI here

    http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2012/02/mitt-romney-victory-speech-after.html

  • Pete_Bondurant

    Romney wins Michigan and AZ. Those most upset include: Santorum, Obama, Axelrod, Democrats, Michael Moore, CNN, MSNBC, Rachel Maddow, NY Times, Jim Hoft etc. etc.

  • Ausonius

    Bill Mitchell:
    You touch on a point that few have noticed, including you.
    When you look at the map, it looks just like the national map when it’s dems vs. repubs: just like the dems have the population centers locked, so does Mitt. In case you missed it, he seems to win primarily in places where repubs cannot possibly hope to prevail in a national election: population centers.
    The areas which will become largely irrelevant in a national election (since they will be won by dems) are choosing our candidate.
    I’m guessing that is not a particularly strong strategy.
    As for all of the complaining about Rick’s dirty trick, I think you might want to look at Paul and Mitt first. They and their superpacs have been doing very little but dirty tactics.

  • Ausonius

    And for all of you placing your hope for reform and reversing barry’s disastrous policies, you are relying on a fellow who just 10 years ago ran as a progressive RINO in virtually every meaningful way: pro-abortion, pro-gun control, and a promise to change health care (which he did an admirable job of according to the conservative leaning Ted Kennedy).
    Dick Morris says we can trust Mitt because he misrepresented himself to (i.e.: lied) the people of Massachussets when running for gov (though his record there is actually quite liberal). We can therefore trust he is not misrepresenting himself now.

    Prediction: If Mitt is the nominee, he will:
    Routinely upset the repub base
    Will not make any dramatic reforms
    Will not ballance any budgets
    Will quickly alienate the base with moderate/lib court appointments
    Will blend quite well with the house leadership and will spend much time touting cuts in the rate of growth of government
    Will prove right all of the reasons for the not-Romney campaigns’ mistrust of him

    I do hope I am incorrect in my assessment. I will support him if he becomes the nominee, much like I had to hold my nose with McCain (who I think he is very much like, only with a much more liberal record in the past).

  • Ausonius

    Pete Bondurant:
    I heard the same kind of crap last election cycle. Spare me with the electibility nonsense. The libs loved McCain too until he secured the nomination and then it was game on.
    We will be inundated with attack after attack after attack by the lib machine against Mitt. And sadly, alot of it will center on the inconsistency of his record now with that of his pre-presidential aspirations. And it will likely be alot of his owns words.
    Barry and all his surrogates have been planning for the past year to run against Mitt. The occupy movement was tailor-made to run against Mitt on. He will be portrayed as an oportunistic elitist, wall street type.
    Barry wants to run against Mitt. If he didn’t, there would be an immense push by the national media to damage Mitt right now, and that’s not happening.

  • Gary

    Missy8

    I agree totally.
    I’m also a Santorum fan, but not a supporter.
    But you’re right, we should not have open primaries. Democrats have their say in their own primary, and again in November. Why should they be allowed to pick their opponent?
    But the real question is, how can we stop them? Anybody can register any party at any time.

  • Gary

    Mad Hatter 5

    You’re right about that. Gingrich called on Santorum to drop out after South Carolina. Santorum said no. Then Santorum won his trifecta, but Gingrich didn’t get out.

    Now if Newt’s numbers were added to Santorum’s, Santorum would have won Michigan last night.

  • Gary

    Bill Mitchell

    Santorum didn’t stand a great chance of getting the nomination, but he did have a chance.
    I think he’ll look back on that robo-call asking Democrats to come in and sabotage the primary as the day he lost the nomination.

    I was thinking about that again yesterday. It’s kinda like the labor unions in Wisconson bussing in people to vote in the recall elections. This was our primary and people who openly admit to being Democrat had no business sabotaging it.

    On the other hand, I actually did participate in Operation Chaos, so I’m a bit conflicted about it.

  • Gary

    Steven 11

    +1

  • wanumba

    #1 February 28, 2012 at 8:33 pm
    Missy8s commented:

    Have you figured out why “open primaries” should be banned?

    This whole mess is a “vote for the loser” (see Howard Stern and Sanjaya) designed to manipulate the outcome, that being said I am a Santorum fan but not necessarily a supporter.

    Exactly whose “party primary” is this again???

    Either the RNC changes the open primary rules in future elections, assuming there are any future elections if President Pond Scum gets reelected, or the RNC ends, period.
    ::::::::::::::

    Can’t repeat this enough. Open primaries are the Devil’s (Democrats) playground.

    We’re also not picking the best candidate against each other, but the best candidate who can take Obama down.

    Just waiting for the elite brainiacs to start the ‘blame the rubes’ when the Obama machine mobilizes in ALinsky Clowar-Piven system overwhelm and gets ten cities to pour into the streets protesting against Mitt Romney’s Mormon Temple instututionalised racism. The gays were rioting at Mormon temples in CA, what will #OWS be doing to create mischief?

    Think Obama should be pressuring Catholics to renounce their beliefs for Obamacare contraceptives when the GOP elite tell Christians the Lord God Almighty and the multiple-married god of Mormon is the same? Just like Allah is? And Satan is actually the bro’ of Jesus.

    But it’ll be ALL the Christians and Tea Partiers’ faults, not the “smart” people.

  • Gary

    FurryGuy 12

    As Rush says, it was a different race four years ago.

    I think in 2008, a lot of people who couldn’t stand McCain also never fathomed how much America-destroying Obama intended to do. So they stayed home.

    Those people are going to be voting this time.
    So it’s not exactly the definition of insanity.

  • Gary

    FurryGuy 14

    To follow up on your point, why does Fox News have Joe Trippi, a Democrat strategist, on their primary panels all the time? What purpose could a Dem serve except to put out the spin or strategic talking points?

    For REPUBLICAN primaries, they should only have REPUBLICAN strategists on. Who cares what Kirsten Powers thinks of Santorum or Romney? She’s a Dem.

    That’s something I just don’t get.

  • Gary

    Rev. Wright #18

    Sarah Palin endorsed McCain in this past Senate race.
    They’re politicians and they have obligations.
    It was the Arizona primary.

  • Gary

    Sparky 19
    +1

    We agree on something!

  • Gary

    Tom63010 #40

    +1

  • Gary

    Ausonius 45

    The only problem with what you’re pointing out about the map is that, while Romney pulled out a close victory over Santorum, that whole map is going to go to Obama in November. All of Michigan’s electors will go to Obama when the state votes majority Democrat. So it doesn’t matter if Santorum can get the majority of the Republican vote in say NYC, San Francisco, Philadelphia, Seattle, etc. When the whole state votes Democrat, all the electors go Democrat.
    So it doesn’t mean much.

    As for the dirty tricks, like I said yesterday, politics is nothing but dirty tricks. But calling on Democrats to invade our primary is not a dirty trick. It’s traitorous. For the sake of winning a state primary, Santorum is willing to disenfranchise his entire party in Michigan and have their voices drowned out by Democrats.

    Not a dirty trick. And he’ll have years to look back on this mistake and realize that’s where he lost all hope of the nomination.

  • Gary

    Ausonius 46

    You might be right on a lot of that, but what is better, 4 more years of Obama?
    You only suspect some of it of Romney, we know all of it for certain of Obama.

  • Gary

    Ausonius 47

    Of course you’re right that the MSM would like to choose our candidate, but I don’t think Romney is who they had in mind. This time, I think they have been playing the reverse psychology angle. I mean, they know that we rally around people they criticize and we despise the ones they praise. Don’t you think they’ve figured that out by now.

    Anyway, if you look back over the past 100 years, you’ll see that presidential elections are won just about 50/50 by Democrats and Republicans. ANd the MSM has been in the tank for the Democrat since FDR. So, while they may sway some of the people some of the time, they’re clearly not getting their way every time.

    We just had 8 years of Bush, defeating their favorite global warming pet Algore and the haughty John Kerry (who served in Vietnam). So there’s no indication that they can bring down our candidate if we don’t want them too.
    McCain lost because too many on our side stayed home in disgust.
    53/47. Obama never should have been elected.

  • myohmy

    Go Rick. You allow yourself to go this far, you can go even farther. Next Super Tuesday.

  • Ausonius

    Gary #60:
    You need not be a mathmatician to see the MSM spent infinitely more time since the trifecta hammering Rick than all of the other candidates combined thus far.
    Anyone who thinks they are not solidly desiring a Mitt nomination need only wait until (if) he wins the nomination to find out: they’re chomping at the bit. Of course, then it is too late for us to change our pick. There is no significant reverse psychology at play here. They are using their primary weapon (the press) to knock out who they do not wish to face.
    They have a good record of beating weak moderates. Mitt has, by far, the most liberal background of this field. They can’t wait.
    I don’t think the establishment cares if they loose this. Their main priority is killing the young tea party movement. A Romney nomination will have that effect.
    Just wait and see.

  • Ausonius

    Gary:
    Another point. They followed the same playbook with McCain in ’08: no significant negative attention until after the primary season. They wanted McCain for the general just like they want Mitt. No one could seriously argue that they largely left him alone thus far.
    They are patiently waiting.
    Rick (perhaps Newt, I don’t recall) endorsed Mitt in ’08 because he seemed the most viable to knock out McCain, whom conservatives greatly disliked. That makes it difficult for him to point out the glaringly liberal record of Mitt prior to about ’05-’06. The media will, just not while we can reverse course.

  • The Elector of Saxony

    “I do hope I am incorrect in my assessment”

    You’re not. He’ll get hoodwinked by a Souter when trying to make a “moderate” Court appointment. He’ll pork up to get the good old boys reelected and keep their kids in rich “consulting” jobs at major corporations and he won’t repeal Obamacare. The only available EVIDENCE shows that Obamacare is exactly how Romney wants healthcare run on a nationwide basis. I don’t care what a guy says once he implements a major program, stumps for it, campaigns for it, signs it into law, and then helps the Obama admin design it for nationwide deployment.

    The debates will be funny if I can see through the tears of defeat. Every time Romney tries to score a social or fiscally conservative point, Obama will just have a card off of which he can recite when Romney said he didn’t support the 2nd amendment, and was pro-choice, and was pro-gay marriage, and implemented Socialized medicine in MA. IF Santorum debates him, they’ll just give him 1000 birth control and Satan questions and he’ll be a national laughingstock (instead of just being one in PA)

    I sure wish we had a candidate who could win something. Now we get a choice between a guy who had zillions more dollars than anyone else in the last primary but couldn’t beat McCain (who couldn’t beat Obama) and a guy who lost his OWN Senate seat by a zillion points…in a State we have to have to beat Obama. Yeah. Dream on, Republican Party. If we can’t do better than this, if we really can’t find a standard bearer who has the ideas and the oratorial skills to persuade the People, we don’t deserve to win which is handy because we won’t.

  • Mama Grizzly

    FANTASTIC!

    So glad Romney won.

    Santorum cannot go up against Obama, but Romney can.

    As I’ve explained before to the evangelicals and others: the solid Mormons are a lot like the Samaritans were in Jesus’ time, and the religious jews hated them because they had mixed doctrine. Yet Jesus first revealed his identity to a Samaritan woman and used the Samaritans to rebuke the hard-heartedness of the Pharisees and Sadducees (parable of the Good Samaritan). At that time, that was an amazing parable.

    So . . . my op is that Rick is unstable and is promoting Roman Catholicism as a platform in a campaign. It is amazing to me that evangelicals would support that, but oh well.

    Romney, on the other hand, is focused on the direction of the country as a whole. He has the maturity and the experience to take it to Obama. Just listen (don’t even watch) his MI victory speech last night and you’ll see where he’s coming from.

    About the religion thing: I think it is telling that those who would use the “bully pulpit” to push the RC view on contraception, for example, on others, are the same ones that fear Romney will do something similar–but it’s only because they’re projecting what they would do in office, so they suspect the opponent to do the same. I don’t think Romney is that way.

    Go ROMNEY! Let’s throw out Captain Zero.

    ——–

    Oh, and since Obama thinks he’s so “all that” for being MalcolmX’s son, and for “representing” the Moslems and Islamic ascendancy as the president of the USA, and because he’s 100% pathological–a classic narcissist– EXPECT ANYTHING. A strong show of force must convince him that the PEOPLE aren’t buying what he’s selling. Then he and his little group can fade away.

    Eternal Vigilance.

    Remember Seal Team 6.

    ———————-

    About open primaries. As a former leftie, let me tell you: they’ll just REGISTER as Republicans and do it that way. It doesn’t matter that much–BUT IT WOULD BE BETTER because many of them will be too afraid of being caught when they’re so close inside the caucus process. So it’s a good idea in general, but not the “cure.”

    ———————-

    It amazes me that there are those who cannot see that Team Zero would make mincemeat out of “choir boy” Santorum. They can roast him.

    Expect the sickest, most dishonest, most destructive campaign against our man that you will EVER witness. The Narcissist in Chief will be out for blood and WILL DO ANYTHING to stay in office. Romney was right that Obama does not feel constrained by the Constitution.

    Our Constitution will be safe with Romney.

    ——————

    BTW, the boards are filling up with Obama’s people pretending to be unhappy conservatives. Expect a bunch of blabbing about Romney being a Mormon. But guess what: NONE OF THEM will discuss Steve-Barry-Obama’s Black Liberation Theology disguising Islamic Supremist political aims.

    Just sayin’.

    —————-

    Finally, you can tell a lot about a man by his family. The Romney’s have something very good and special going, and are a great example to the country in that respect.

  • Gary

    Ausonius 62

    What can I say that I didn’t already say? They know if they beat up on Santorum you’ll rally around him. They know if they give Romney a pass, you’ll despise him. Put yourself in their shoes. What would you do? Attack the guy you’re really afraid of and galvanize his supporters? Doesn’t make sense.

    And once again, Bush was a moderate. He won two terms over two media darlings. You might say he got lucky in 2000, but by 2004, they had hammered him pretty good in the War on Terror and painted him as a complete imbecile. Yet he won again.

    The media hammering on our candidate, even in the general, will not by itself sink our candidate. At least some of us have to give up and stay home, or write in our favorite Conservative. That’s how people like Obama get elected.

  • Gary

    Further on that, the media will be champing at the bit to go after our candidate after the primaries, regardless who it is. Then we’ll be champing at the bit to get to the voting booth and vote Obama out And Rush and Levin and Hannity will be champing at the bit to decimate Obama all day every day up to election day.

    We have nothing to fear from the media as long as we coalesce after the primaries.
    My only concern is the crybabies who plan to stay home or write in a candidate.
    That’s the only formula for losing.

  • Gary

    Ausonius 63

    But come on, what would an ad look like where the Obama people hammer Romney’s liberal record:

    “Romney signed Romneycare that was the model for Obamacare. Don’t vote for Romney. — I’m Barack Obama and I approved this ad.”

    They can’t bash his liberal record without bashing themselves. The angle they’ll take with Romney is that he’s an out-of-touch rich Wall Street fat cat who only wants to give tax cuts to the rich and balance the budget on the backs of the poor.

    That’s virtually the exact attack mode they used on Bush, in addition to the stuff I mentioned above. Romney’s job will be to demonstrate how he can apply his business success to a revamping of Washington policies like bailouts, and how he can bring business back to America by lowering the corporate tax rate and repealing Obamacare, and how he can make us more competitive with China by lowering top marginal rates, eliminating capital gains tax, balancing the budget, and going after China on its WTO violations and currency manipulation.

  • Ausonius

    #68 Gary:
    The whole point of it will be to demoralize the base by pointing out the lack of difference between Mitt and barry, in terms of record not rhetoric.
    We have an extensive history of loosing with moderates, and suprising with a conservative (we just do not have a history of nominating conservatives.
    For all of the distortions I’ve seen here, Rick has been crucified by a handful of votes out of a few thousand. He has committed no grand defections in terms of key issues, despite what I’ve seen a number of people here claim.
    With Mitt, like I said, since ’05-’06 has become somewhat conservative in what he claims he’ll do; prior to that, he simply cannot claim to be even mildly conservative.
    No doubt the media would go after whoever we nominate. I think it is a much stronger position to have someone who can defend distortions rather than explain why he had actual left-wing positions. And the social issues that they would go after Rick for (which is really all they have, which is why they don’t want to run against him) are far more in-line with what average Americans believe than those beliefs held by our deplorable president.
    And do not forget the issue of health care. In the debates, Newt tried to hammer Mitt once in October. Mitt simply replied he had gotten the idea for the individual mandate from Newt, and that was the last you heard of Newt trying to hammer Mitt on health care. The same scenario will unfold when (if) Mitt tries to hammer barry on health care, and then we have a candidate who has forfeited the entire topic, a topic that we cannot afford to loose.

  • Ausonius

    Mama Grizzly:
    If you are correct that they would make mincemeat of Rick, then they perhaps misplayed the entire endeavor so poorly as to be hard to describe.

    If Rick was soo easy to go after, then why not run stories about Mitt’s pre-06 record with a host of soundbites and rally the base to Rick by weakening Mitt with Mitt’s actual words. They did the opposite. Either the msm has stopped coordinating with the white house, no longer is in the tank for barry or sees Mitt as an easier candidate in the general to beat.

    It’s not that hard to see. In many of the swing states, Rick has been the only guy to poll better than barry. Neither Mitt or Newt has had a good showing in those places. As far as Rick loosing his seat badly in ’06, I would simply submit that it reveals more about his ability to win such a state in the first place and hold it for a second term. It is a strond democrat state and ’06 was a very tough year for repubs.

    I’m still with Rick and will hope that he can do well on Tuesday. He will come out of Michigan with a fairly even # of delagates, and that is pretty significant indeed, especially considering he was outspent 6 to 1.