Obama Runs Up White Flag In His War On Religion?

Posted by The P/Oed Patriot

It would seem that Obama has possibly been defeated in his war on religion, maybe (but not really).

According to an article on CBS News, Obama is now backtracking on his birth control mandate for religious organizations:

“After weeks of growing controversy, Obama backed off a recently announced requirement for religious-affiliated employers to provide free birth control coverage even if it runs counter to their beliefs. Instead, workers at such institutions will be able to get free contraception directly from health insurance companies.

“Religious liberty will be protected, and a law that requires free preventive care will not discriminate against women,” Obama said in an appearance in the White House briefing room.

“I understand some folks in Washington want to treat this as another political wedge issue. But it shouldn’t be. I certainly never saw it that way,” Obama said. “This is an issue where people of good will on both sides of the debate have been sorting through some very complicated questions.”

Cardinal-designate Timothy Dolan, head of the nation’s Roman Catholic bishops, said the changes were a “first step in the right direction.” But he also said there were too few details to know whether the changes addressed the church’s objections.”

 

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  • Granny

    I agree with the Cardinal . . . . . this is no surrender by a very long shot. Who is going to pay for the free birth control directly from insurance companies? It seems to me that this is simply a shell game and that the Catholic Church will STILL be paying for something that is against their religious principles.

  • Sasja

    Nothing was won here. Zero continues to rule by dictate which our Constitution does not allow. Rush said it best today:

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/02/10/obama_didn_t_cave_on_the_hhs_mandate_he_s_making_an_unprecedented_power_grab

  • Jayne on Left Coast

    Same plan,just different words.

  • Dan Roll

    I was under the impression that the President’s role in the lawmaking process was to sign or not sign legislation passed by both the House and Senate. Since when does the president get to dictate policy to businesses? The direct control of private business by government is fascism plain and simple.

  • Major Kong

    Obama hasn’t capitulated on a damn thing. In the first place he had no authority to take away anyone’s religious freedom. Therefore, he cannot give back that which was not his in the first place. Bishops need to stand united on this.

  • Sasja

    I don’t know what happened, but that link will get you there.

    It is about Liberty, folks. It is about a president who continually ignores his limits as provided by our Constitution, that far to many people fail to grasp, as his continuing grab for power continues unabated.

  • Peggy R

    This was no surrender

  • Major Kong

    Bill Donahue and Catholic League say it perfectly:

    catholicleague.orghttp://www.catholicleague.org/obama%e2%80%99s-ploy-adds-insult-to-injury/
    OBAMA’S PLOY ADDS INSULT TO INJURY

    February 10, 2012 by admin
    Filed under Latest News Releases

    Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments on President Obama’s revised healthcare plan as it affects Catholic institutions:

    President Obama’s latest ploy just adds insult to injury. If the insurance plan of a Catholic institution must cover services it deems immoral, then such a healthcare plan is offensive, plain and simple.

    The Catholic League, for example, uses Christian Brothers as its insurance carrier. So if a future employee of ours were to demand free abortion-inducing drugs, and she is allowed to request free drugs from Christian Brothers, then the rest of us would, in effect, be subsidizing her abortion. This is outrageous and will not stand judicial scrutiny.

    When it comes to the First Amendment, there is no such thing as a half loaf. We want now, and in the future, the same rights we have enjoyed since the beginning of the republic.

    The Obama ploy is also cynical: its effect is to peel off liberal Catholic opposition to Obamacare. In other words, the old divide and conquer strategy is in play. But it won’t work as nicely as they think: there are too many practicing Catholics who will only be impelled to revolt.

    Obama has decided to turn up the heat. He’ll soon see how hot things get when Catholics team with Protestants, Jews, Mormons and others to recapture their First Amendment rights. Indeed, President Obama will now be remembered as the president who brought the culture war to a boil.
    Written by admin

  • MrGoodWench

    Instead, workers at such institutions will be able to get free contraception directly from health insurance companies.
    +++

    FREE ?
    Yeah right

  • Militant Conservative

    Bull, Obama is an evil liar.

  • Molon Labe

    There has been no change. I will not comply with the dictates of a man who tramples the constitution and the freedoms won by the sacrifice of men ionfinitely more worthy of the office than he could ever be.

    I will not comply.

  • Major Kong

    “I understand some folks in Washington want to treat this as another political wedge issue. But it shouldn’t be. I certainly never saw it that way,” Obama said.

    Bald faced lie.

    “This is an issue where people of good will on both sides of the debate have been sorting through some very complicated questions.”

    There are no complicated questions. Contraception is readily available and cheap. If a woman wants to contracept, that’s her business and she should buy it herself. Do not put it on those who are morally opposed.

  • Mad Hatter

    Obama doesn’t believe in the Separation of Powers.

    It was Obama that said “the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkpdNtTgQNM&feature=related

    During his appointment of the “chief consumer watchdog” back in early January,

    “And I refuse to take ‘No’ for an answer. I’ve said before that I will continue to look for every opportunity to work with Congress to move this country forward. But when Congress refuses to act in a way that hurts our economy and puts people at risk, I have an obligation as President to do what I can without them.”

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/4/sources-obama-buck-gop-will-ok-consumer-watchdog/

    And now he goes around Congress, and is going to force insurance companies to pay for abortions and the morning after pill?

    He’s not a President, he’s a Dictator.

  • DANEgerus

    Mr LetEmDieIfTheyAreBornAlive is lying. His Media minions are touting his ‘compromise’ but it’s a head-fake. Obama is saying providers can mix the additional charges for ‘free’ BC/Abortions in with the bills for everyone so those providers still have to provide it and still facilitate it… AGAINST THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS… but they can lie about it.

    Of course… the LibRules completely don’t understand the Bitter Clingers refusal to lie.

  • BilltTex

    The President’s solution follows the same logic as Sharia finance. If the Muslims are dumb enough to fall for that, why won’t Christians fall for this?

  • Sounds like Dolan and the USCCB are ready to roll AGAIN! When are they going to start doing their damn jobs?

  • forest

    “…and a law that requires free preventive care will not discriminate against women,” Obama said in an appearance in the White House briefing room.

    Did that chauvinist just imply that birth control is only the concern of the woman?

    If birth control is not paid for that discriminates against women? Why would men have any interest in condoms or vasectomies? That’s all up to the woman, right Mr. President?

    These guys ought to think these things through before accusing others of “discrimination”.

  • “workers at such institutions will be able to get free contraception directly from health insurance companies.”

    According to FOX News…”Many insurance companies are saying, this is the first time they heard about it…”

  • kozanne

    Folks, this is nothing more than a shell game being put on the American people by the Deceiver in Chief. Let’s use the Keep it Simple principle, and look at this excerpt from Ace at AOS:

    http://ace.mu.nu/

    “So here’s how this works.

    I’m an insurer. Here were your two options, before Obama’s brilliant solution:

    I could cover your employees for x dollars.

    If you want birth control/abortifacient coverage, we’ll add that rider for y dollars. So this option is x + y dollars.

    Obama’s genius solution is:

    Hey, we’ll cover your employees for x + y dollars as a baseline. But we’ll toss in abortifacient coverage for 0 dollars.

    Uhhh… That x+y is what it cost to have base insurance + birth control/abortifacient coverage. All that’s being done here is that people are lying about the costs — now the insurer and the contracting party lie and pretend the base insurance cost is x + y (which it isn’t; it’s x) and also pretend the cost for the birth control coverage is 0 (which it isn’t; it’s y).

    All Obama’s doing is mandating that employers enter into a contract with insurers in which both parties pretend that the base cost of the service is higher than it is, and that abortifacient coverage now costs zero dollars.

    Obama’s mandate solution is now just to force the conscience-objectors to lie about it.”

    Apologies because I don’t know the html thingie to do for a block quote.

  • Mad Hatter

    If you remember back to when this started, this was Obama’s blatant assault on Religious Freedom.

    It’s a shame that all of you have forgotten about how Obama went out of his way for a certain group of people to defend their Religious Freedom.

    From ABC News, August 14th, 2012.

    President Obama seemed to dial back today on his statement of support for plans to build a mosque two blocks from Ground Zero, the site of the terror attacks of 9/11.

    During a visit to the Gulf Coast today, Obama said that while he believes Muslims have the right to build the mosque and community center so close to where two hijacked jetliners slammed into the World Trade Center towers on Sept. 11, 2001, killing 3,000 people, he is not sure it’s a good idea.

    (here we go)

    “As a citizen, and as president, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as anyone else in this country,” he said Friday evening.

    “That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in lower Manhattan in accordance with local laws and ordinances,” he said. “This is America, and our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakable.”

    http://abcnews.go.com/WN/president-obama-supports-building-mosque-ground/story?id=11401964

    Isn’t just interesting that he doesn’t have the same passion towards the Catholic Church?

  • dwd

    This post is wrong. All Obama is doing is mandating that insurance companies provide birth control coverage without explicitly charging for it. Everyone’s premiums will go up, including those of religious institutions, and employees of religious institutions will still be able to get birth control through their insurance. The religious institution will be paying MORE for their employee’s premiums, and the insurance company will be required by Obama to provide birth control for free (paid for by those higher premiums), thus the religious institution is still providing birth control.

    See Ace

  • Mad Hatter

    That should be August 14th, 2010* Typo

  • Multitude

    Feigning weakness to push further destruction of the Constitution… so that’s what it has come to for Barry. Apparently he’s been told that the prize of Second Revolution is much greater to his coalition than is his pride. They’ve probably promised to build statues of him in Washington’s Red Square.

    I’m still trying to understand how people believe this insane nonsense about health insurance companies being told they’ll just have to “make it free.” Are Americans who vote for Obama really that stupid? And hell, if abortions and contraceptives are free, what the hell is this debate about in the first place? Just go get them! Nothing stopping you.

  • Multitude

    dwd #21: You’re right. In fact, that the Catholic institutions are required to purchase healthcare, and that healthcare will provide free abortions, the cost and/or its subsidy from other purchasers (a shell game of course) is immaterial. The Catholic institutions *are* providing abortions and contraceptives.

    I have a profound hunch we’re too focused on middle-game, especially since I refuse to believe the sociopath Barack Caligula Obama would ever back down, let alone compromise through humility. I smell a different end game: Catholic institutions forced to dump their own plans and throw their employees into state-managed Obamacare.

    There’s the intended “compromise”; Obama will tell them he tried, they still howled, and the only thing left is for them to wash their hands of the mess and let “someone else” take care of their healthcare so they don’t have their impossible faith-based rules and restrictions. We know this is Obama’s end game elsewhere, and it actually corresponds to what happened last week with the whole Planned Parenthood mess. Bloody up the opponents, tell them that this arena just isn’t for them, and let them punt.

  • Major Kong

    #23 Multitude commented: Are Americans who vote for Obama really that stupid?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Yup. And since so many of them are milking entitlement programs, contraception, abortions, sterilizations, etc. will most certainly be free to them.

  • Tjexcite

    But don’t vote for Romney he is not conservative enough, and Rick Santorum can’t win.

    Now or never to complete that plan that is 100 years in the making to Fundamentally Transform the USA in to something that would make Marx, Mao and Satan proud.

  • justavoter

    As long as the church views this negotiation with this administration as “people of good will” sorting it out, all is lost.

    Obama will play king and get his mandates on privately held insurance companies and get his historical, entirely unamerican precident while the Republican leaders sit around and boast how they protected the rights of a “fraction” of the countries citizens.Meanwhile the Republican leaders will say with a smirk on their faces that they need the Whitehouse and Congress to do anything. Fug em.
    I could say that if they don’t fight off these BS mandates that I will do my part in purging Republican incumbents but to be honest, as time rolls on, I’m going to do that anyhow.

    As for Democrats, they are aliens, they are dead to me.

  • FU#K OBAMA

    if the catholic church caves on this now, they will have bought the Trojan Horse….again.

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  • Obama just mandated that insurance companies pay for birth control and Plan B for people even if those people don’t have insurance. Pretty impressive, especially since Congress never even had to get involved, and neither did the insurance companies.

  • Trish

    No, do not count him out. Whatever they go after, they already know in advance what they want to end up with. He will get exactly what he wanted. Back door has opened on the attack on religion. I am afraid the Catholics are too naive, they see only good and are not wise in their discernment of evil. They will settle and take their congregation down the path to disaster.

  • Major Kong

    If Dolan and USCCB get wobbly at this point they risk back-lash from magisterium believing Catholics. The most practical manner in which this dissent would be expressed would be in reduced contributions from parishioners. Although Cardinal George has been a strong voice in defense of the faith, I am waiting to see how the USCCB responds to Obama’s latest disingenuous ploy before I pledge for this year’s Annual Catholic Appeal.
    Strong rejection to Obama’s “accommodation” in link below

    http://www.catholicvote.org/discuss/index.php?p=26523

  • kate

    I get so tired of Obama, et al screaming racism or “playing politics” when people don’t agree with them and their radical ways. He is a foul marxist who is out to destroy this country and we aren’t going to go down without a fight. Mr. Sensitive Wimp better get used to people standing up and giving him the heave ho.

  • Passably Affable

    I got someone to provide me with a free car. I just had to pay for the steering wheel. It was the same price as a car.

  • keithofboston

    Multitude commented:

    I’m still trying to understand how people believe this insane nonsense about health insurance companies being told they’ll just have to “make it free.” Are Americans who vote for Obama really that stupid?

    Actually, yes they are. We just have to pray that they make up less then 50% of the population come November.

  • MarkJ

    Obama isn’t backtracking on anything. He’s doing the Kansas City Shuffle.

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Kansas%20City%20Shuffle

    Important safety tip: Don’t “look left”.

  • bg

    ++

    Obama in 2004: I Don’t Have the Experience to be President

    Reporter- Why have you ruled that out, running nationally?

    Obama- “You know, I am a, a believer in… knowing what you’re doing when you apply for a job. Uh, and I think that if I were to seriously consider running on a national ticket, I would essentially have to start now, before having served a day in the Senate. Now, there are some people who might be comfortable doing that, but I’m not one of those people.”

    surprise surprise.. original video has been sucked up by
    Obama’s black hole machine, but contained within here..

    insight as to what he was all about came as early as
    January 18, 2001, not to mention March 10, 1983.. 😯

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    MarkJ #36 February 10, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    yep, same old song & dance routine..

    can’t believe some still fall for it, not to mention
    the Reps rock, roll, and play dead act.. gah!!

    ==

  • lizzy84

    The Beckett Fund:
    “This is a false compromise”: doesn’t solve anything–numerous religious organizations still forced to violate their conscience.

    link@:http://www.becketfund.org/obama-administration-offers-false-%E2%80%9Ccompromise%E2%80%9D-on-abortion-drug-mandate/

    What he did today is pure bunk..it changes nothing… Catholics better not go back to sleep.

  • Jeremiah Lloyd

    This is just a wink and nod bigotry towards Catholics. Malibu is signaling that he hates Catholics for his base and that it is OK to do what you want to them. It’s very popular on the left. Left wingers hate Catholics for some reason, probably based on their unsophisticated, narrow, childish blaming and acceptance of trite narratives. They especially hate the Pope. I’m not Catholic but it is so evident in my liberal friends.

    Catholics are just another group that liberals consider responsible for most of world’s problems. You get the feeling from liberals that the world would be better off without the “Roman” influence and most of the bad things in history would be gone. Bringing in moslums for a good purge is in their opinion a noble and necessary thing to do. That’s how much puerile hatred they have.

    Jews may have recently taken an equal spot. Liberals are always snarky about Catholics for whatever reason but know they can only get away with so much overt bigotry so they choose passive aggressive insults where they can retreat quickly.

    Malibu thought he could level an insult and thought he could get away with it. Maybe not this time. This punk move against Catholics follows the same formula as what he did because of his overwhelming hatred of whites. Letting the racist scum off who showed up at a polling station with no charges was grand fun, meant as an insult and a way to let his base know he hates whites and will lead the charge against this expendable group who are at the root of all evil and need punishing.

  • Patty

    What Obama’s Up To
    This is a chilling, yet wholly accurate summation of where Obama wants to take this nation with his pernicious HHS mandate. From Janet Daley, writing for the Telegraph:

    Obama moves closer to post-religious Europe

    …it is also a departure from the traditional American view (enshrined in the Constitution) that the government shall not interfere in the people’s right to religious assembly and practice. What the Obama White House has effectively decided is that religion can not be allowed to interfere with the secular values which government has decreed – such as the right to equality in contraception services. Religion itself is being firmly put in its box. If the state decides that contraception must be available to all, then no church or theological text will be allowed to stand in the way. Once again, the US is following where Europe leads: to a future in which all values will be determined and enforced by the state.

  • Robb

    My concern as a Catholic is that our Bishops will go for this head fake.

  • bg

    ++

    Patty #41 February 10, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    Obama is opening the Constitutional door, albeit the
    back-door, to Sharia Law, a bit more here & here..

    as it is being established in Eurasia..

    btw, Marx & Islam wed a long time ago..

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    Robb #42 February 10, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    as we all, including Atheists, should be.. *sigh*

    [click on connecting links and scroll threads for more, or not, your choice]

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    re: #43 February 10, 2012 at 6:31 pm bg

    Marx & Islam

    much more here..

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    couple of flashbacks..

    July 3, 2007 via American Thinker

    Obama and the Sojourners for Hamas

    [Obama spoke at their forum in Washington, D.C. last month ; he
    also spoke at the Sojourners Pentecost conference last year where
    he received an award.]

    March 6, 2008 via Global Politician

    Establishing the Islamic Kingdom of God in Kenya

    [Barack Obama’s eager association with such entities cannot be written off as merely coincidental. Barack Hussein Obama’s association with Raila Odinga, Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. of the Trinity United Church of Christ – Obama’s Marxist Liberation Theology Church, Al Sharpton and the National Action Network, his financial sponsor George Soros hates Israel (and also the United States). Soros has called the United States “a danger to world peace” that needs “de-Nazification,” while blaming Israel for causing anti-Semitism, and Barack Obama’s friends at MoveOn.org.]

    ==

  • donh

    Obama seems to think it is a compromise to have the Church go from being a provider of abortion to being an accomplice to abortion….ordering them to hand out telephone numbers and printed directions to the nearest termination hell hole . How about the men send their Catholic employer a bill for that hooker they bought for $200 an hour ? and if your not going to pay it…how about directing men to the school girls who come every week to confess their lustful sex acts… since you are now in the business of matchmaking sinners.

  • bg
  • Alan from Chgo

    No white flag, this was just round one….

  • lizzy84

    @Patty/#41

    Your post hits the nail on the head. It’s being disguised as a ‘woman’s rights’ issue and/or ‘health care’ issue.. this is really just one more nudge oBama is giving us down the path to socialism where more and then more{and eventually all} of what each person earns is rendered to the the State and then doled out by the State for recipients and benefits that the State deems worthy.

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  • coolidgerules

    Don’t believe a word that flies out of the communist’ mouth.
    All subversion and games from this boy king………much like every issue before this one
    The Catholic Church should just realize that the covering of the crucifix at Notre Dame was just a trial balloon to see what he could get away with. They let him and opened the door for him. Not to mention all the government money that the hospitals and charities have taken over the decades. They are not playing nice with the typical progressive-they are playing for keeps with a subversive communist.

    The bishops should just face facts-theywere played like a violin all this time. STAND YOUR GROUND

  • Patty

    77 Disgusting Revelations of Obama

    http://offgridblogger.wordpress.com/

  • #1AMERICAN

    Kenyan illegal may not force churches etc but still forcing ins companies to give free which makes all of our rates go higher…hey odumbo mooslime POS…. please ESAD for good

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  • Obama’s elixir & Cool Aid

    Hmmm Obama said the insurance companies will provide these services for free. Good, comrade Obama, don’t tell them the insurance companies will pass on the costs to everyone, the 90 year olds, the man struggling with his health problems, the poor, the infirm, all must pay to support the lifestyles of Hugh Heffner and his posse.

  • Multitude

    News flash!!! Good news… Obama says pizza, burgers and cheese fries are decreed to be free.

    Bad news… Michelle’s already in line ahead of you.

  • Molon Labe

    Christians should declare with one voice:

    “In that Obama has rendered no act of contrition or repentance, and is at the moment, at liberty in the land, we do, here and now, separate him from the precious body and blood of Christ, and from the society of all Christians. We exclude him from our Holy Mother Church and all her sacraments, in heaven, or on Earth. We declare him excommunicate and anathema. We cast him into the outer darkness. We judge him damned with the devil and his fallen angels and all the reprobate, to eternal fire and everlasting pain!”

  • Questionman

    Just when I thought the racist right couldn’t get any sick and disgusting, they keep proving my both right and wrong! Especially (excluding Matt) all of these pukes swallow the words of these scumbag Neo-Nazi Racists like Mark Levin and his fellow Neo-Nazi racists at the 2012 CPAC! I said last year that crap like this was gonna happen!

    I don’t get it, birth control wasn’t a big deal in America 20 years ago… why is it now?

    There’s been a backlash by conservatives, some religious, some not. Progress is made in this country by taking 2 steps forward, and then forced 1 step back. It amazes me that the religious groups think it is immoral to use birth control and that these Republicans, who are supposed to be about personal liberty, think that this is ok! Women have the right to CHOOSE whether they want to start a family or not. Every time I hear one of the Repubs speak, I realize how much I dislike them (except RP)

    The President arrived at a solution that satisfied all direct parties to the controversy. It is a compromise (if you even want to call it that) that gives up nothing—women will still be able to make their own decisions on birth control without having to run it past a bureaucrat, politician, or church official. It’s about choice and women are still the ones who get to make that choice. The GOP would like to take that choice away from women. President Obama, to his credit, didn’t let them.

    I have lived under 13 U.S. presidents, and I can say without hesitation that George W. Bush is the worst president of my lifetime, and he may well be the worst ever. One would have to go all the way back to James Buchanan to find a president of equal incompetence.

    The last thing America needs is another “businessman” like Bush. He had (whether he earned it or not) an MBA, for gosh sakes, and he was the worst president ever.

    Show me anywhere in the world where Obama is a Marxist. “There is none”

    Only in the mind of the “conservative” scum bags is our President a Marxist.

    This is the thing with conservatives. They don’t know the first thing about Marx or his writings, yet they label everyone a “Marxist” like the term actually means something.

    Anyone thinking that Obama is Anti-American needs to cover themselves up and brace for reality, soon.

    I wish you were joking but we all know that you are not and that GOP would be willing to do anything including destroying the country to keep Obama from a second term. Just look at what they did with the debt ceiling fiasco. The right held out held out held out saying they weren’t going to vote yes until their demands were meet. Well those demands were never meet the US credit rating took a hit. The only good thing from that was the American people knew who to blame the GOP.

    How can you even think President Obama is evil? That’s easy, because they are hate-filled racists! The scumbags here Believes anyone that does not look like him is Evil. Spoken like a racist and a refugee from the fact challenged Fox News.

    As for Obama being socialist or communist or far left. Name what he’s done that is socialist, communist, or far left. Easy NONEWHATSOEVER!

    Obama reacted the right way, and considered a thoughtful compromise to those who got their panties in a bunch over this non-issue.

    And no, Obama ISN’T a Muslim, Communist, Marxist, or leftist extremist.

    He has governed more to the center, than the last 4 POTUS’s.

    But who says that Obama wants to be a dictator – other than less than reliable sources as Limbaugh, Beck, and Fox Noise?

    Also, where in the Bible does it say “thou shalt not have contraception”?

    How about him being a dictator. Would you like to have a dictator? Bush Jr said we should have one, and he should be that one. Did you like that? I can’t imagine anything worse that a dictator. Obama is not a dictator; he just finally got aggressive after the pugs killed all things he wanted to do.

    It’s obvious why scumbags like you want him jailed Not for treason he never committed – or bribery he never did – or high crimes and misdemeanors he has never done!- not for any real impeachable offense – but only because the President is black! their only disgusting reason! It’s so obvious!

    Despite the incessant screams of “Traitor!” coming from the Right, Obama hasn’t actually committed treason You can’t impeach President Obama because he has not committed a high crime or misdemeanor, they only crime he committed was being black and they hate that! That’s why they create bogus charges of crimes!

    I’ll come out and say it. Anyone who calls Obama a “Clear and Present Danger to this country” is, without doubt, a fact-challenged racist. THAT is a fact! I noticed I remember past President’s doing stuff like this, but why is it Anti-American when President Obama does it? Racism or Double Standards, It’s one of the two.

    Oh, and by the way, check this out:

    http://blogcritics.org/politics/article/surprise-surprise-most-catholics-support-obamas/

    But you repeat these ridiculous lies anyway, because you can’t say the real reason you hate Obama: THEY CAN’T STAND A BLACK MAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

  • FenelonSpoke

    Questionman gives a racist dog whistle that Breitbart was speaking about; Yeah; Were all racist even if we supported Herman Cain and support Allen West. It’s going nowhere, buddy It’s like water off a ducks back. I couldn’t care less what the extreme left wing thinks of me.

  • squeaky

    i don’t think obama plans on running up any flags of surrender. he plans on tiring people out. all kinds of things have been floated but just because they never happened doesn’t mean they weren’t on someone’s too do list. he just has to keep his act together thru the election.
    the time of a man “is good as his handshake is long over”………
    This old saying symbolizes the ‘sacred handshake’ that was used in olden times and that was ADHERED TO religiously. With that ‘handshake’ and …

  • squeaky

    i think harry reid told us why obama was their candidate which says more about the dems than what ?man says about the reps………
    [“He [Reid] was wowed by Obama’s oratorical gifts and believed that the country was ready to embrace a black presidential candidate, especially one such as Obama — a ‘light-skinned’ African American ‘with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one,’ ” Halperin and Heilemann say.]

  • So much for being able to keep the plan you like. But hopefully none of us bought that anyway.

    The best move for the Catholic Hierarchy is to simply put all employees on Obamacare, that’s what the rest of the business world will end up doing in the long term.

    They can certainly point the finger at Obama, given his lies.

  • Jeremiah Lloyd

    Questionman is upset that we know Malibu is one of the worst racists this country has ever seen. Project we much? As far as presidents he is easily in the top five which includes the obsessed, diseased black hater Andrew Johnson and lib hero Woodrow the cleanser.

    By the way Questionman, Malibu is a Marxist, a vile racist’s racist, bigot, and a moslum scumbag and fraud. And even though we know it’s probable because actions speak louder than words, we could never be the ugly racists that you and Malibu are. How can you support a vile racist and bigot like twerp Malibu and not be one yourself?

    Let’s see, the groups Malibu hates and punishes: whites, Catholics, Jews and Christian religions, meanwhile promoting moslums who are at war with all that don’t practice islum.

  • bg

    ++

    Obama his Mama, and his Papa, not to mention
    his sought after the friends on the fringe, etc..

    February 9, 2012

    Our mandated future

    [In our mandated future, few political fingerprints will be left at the scene of the crime. Massive government programs, with the power to warp our society in terrible ways, will be presented as virtually “cost-free” and “deficit-neutral,” because the government won’t be spending the money. It will be telling you to spend the money. Precisely this sort of trick was pulled to pretend ObamaCare wouldn’t pile trillions onto the national debt.

    [..]

    Sadly, the ”center” has moved so far Left that you can’t even talk about welfare for the truly needy any more. Blurring the distinction between the poor and middle class is one of the great projects of the Left, and it approaches completion. We are made to pretend there’s a great, formless mass of “working Americans,” toiling beneath the silvered whips of the Evil Rich. Everyone has to be lumped together and treated the same, except for the “millionaires” who will be taxed ever higher to pay for it all. And beyond the visible arteries of confiscatory taxation and irresponsible spending lies a swelling tumor of unfunded mandates, which allow the ruling class of the most indebted nation in history to wield even more power than they can afford.]

    it all rings so damn true it hurts..

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  • bg

    ++

    re: #65 February 11, 2012 at 1:38 pm bg

    Critical Theory

    [Critical theory is thus able to develop a sharp, subtle, and derogatory account of modern consciousness which undermines much we believe by showing us the influences which have moulded our beliefs. These influences are contrasted with rationality and with the conditions for rational argument that would allow what Habermas calls the ‘ideal speech act’. Critical theory has therefore had a considerable influence, often indirect, on such ‘counter-culture’ movements as feminism and the green movement because it allows them to point to the structure and irrational origins of our ‘patriarchal’ or ‘industrial’ thought.]

    the irony is beyond belief.. *sigh*

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  • wanumba

    #59 February 11, 2012 at 3:56 am
    Questionman commented:

    Just when I thought the racist right couldn’t get any sick and disgusting, they keep proving my both right and wrong! Especially (excluding Matt) all of these pukes swallow the words of these scumbag Neo-Nazi Racists like Mark Levin and his fellow Neo-Nazi racists at the 2012 CPAC! I said last year that crap like this was gonna happen

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::

    You keep talking to your own stereotype. Democrats imposed slavery, pushed the nation into civil war to keep it, cooked up “racism” to justify it, murdered Republcians to try to stop any changes to their power structires.

    Now you’re a .. Democrat? ON what basis?
    THe Left says no one should pay the least attention to Washington or Jefferson because they owned slaves, so how do you explain you are a Democrat who sheltered and promoted Jim Crow, George Wallace, literacy laws, PLanned Parenthood targeting Blacks for abortions, KKK Robert Byrd president pro tem of the Senate, threw on anti-Second Amendement gun control expressly to keep Blacks from owning guns for self-defense against KKK?

    THe Dems don’t DO that anymore? Is THAT the reason? Well, then you must forgive George Washington then and listen to his counsel because he freed all his slaves as his personal legacy, and as his national legacy by guiding the creation and ratification of a Constitution that could not tolerate slavery.

    How can one forgive the Democrats all the deaths and human suffering they caused without forgiving George Washington who did not hurt the people who worked for him, and who enabled liberation of countless others.

    Seems a double standard, perhaps either cynical lying for power grabs or a despicable hypocrisy of racist double-talk.

  • Gary

    Molon Labe#11 58

    Then why are you planning on voting for Obama?

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/02/romney-shuts-down-hecklers-at-maine-town-hall-event-video/
    (comment 14)

    True colors shine through. I love it.
    Molon labe likes to challenge everybody else’s conservatism and call names like it was the schoolyard, but here you have it in his own words.

    He won’t simply stay home in protest on election day, making it one vote easier for Obama to win, but rather will proactively go out and vote Obama (to spite Romney apparently!).

    Molon Labe your conservative creds are revoked. Please stop posting on this conservative blog.
    But since I know you won’t, I’ll be posting this brilliant punditry of yours every time you post until I stop seeing your idiotic username.