Ma Pelosi: I Don’t Think Federal Employees Should Pay More For Their Extravagant Pensions (Video)

Minority Leader Pelosi told reporters this week that federal employees should not have to pay more for their extravagant pensions.
The Daily Caller reported:

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi told The Daily Caller that federal employees should not have to “carry an undue burden” by paying more into their pensions to fund legislation that would extend the payroll tax cut and unemployment insurance for a full year.

For the record…
Federal workers make twice as much as workers in the private sector.
While the rest of the nation suffered through Obama’s first year in office, government workers increased their salaries by over $30,000 in 2009.

The federal compensation advantage has grown from $30,415 in 2000 to $61,998 last year. (USA Today)

#1 February 17, 2012 at 6:29 pm
FurryGuy commented:

The headline would be more accurate if it was:

Ma Pelosi: “I Don’t Think”
#2 February 17, 2012 at 6:37 pm
you don't know me commented:

Maybe we could just abort them. I hear she’s all in favor of that. Possibly some laws need to be stretched a bit, but I hear she’s pretty good at that too.
#3 February 17, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Yep commented:

For those who want to comment in how great government jobs
are, you should really try working one at some point. You’d realize
how easy it is to misrepresent the average government workers
situation with a few charts and graphs.

I recall a few present, and former, government workers relating their
experiences the last time Jim posted about it…..only to be promptly shouted
down for using “anecdotal” evidence fro their own “narrow experiences”.

I’d think that some firsthand experience is more relevant than none at all.
#4 February 17, 2012 at 6:52 pm
bg commented:

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OT..

February 17, 2012

Handing out condoms on the Titanic

February 4, 2012

They’re Not Going To Pass A Budget In 2012

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#5 February 17, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Druid commented:

A lot of the fed job problem is pay grade inflation to meet EO/AA goals… take a look at OPM’s jobsite and see what is out there and compare comparable real world offerings (that is education experience => salary).
#6 February 17, 2012 at 7:29 pm
John commented:

This is such bull Im not sure why you keep posting it over and over, of course the AVERAGE will be higher for federal workers as they dont have low income jobs like food service and custodial to bring the average down, in addition, the educational requirements are much higher, and the workforce is in majority much more mature e.g. retired or separated military members
#7 February 17, 2012 at 7:29 pm
uncommonclarity commented:

How much longer are we going to suffer this woman? Please, God. I beg you to make her irrelevant to all but those who truly love her.
#8 February 17, 2012 at 7:31 pm
LAURIE commented:

PELOSI IS AS LOW AS THEY GO… I CAN’T STAND TO EVEN HEAR HER NAME……………………
#10 February 17, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Always On Watch commented:

This woman has zero sense of budgetary realities. Sheesh.
#12 February 17, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Militant Conservative commented:

#3 February 17, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Yep commented:

Common tactic used by the lefties.

You never did it so you can’t comment.

ESAD you liberal terd your argument is without

merit and thought. Pelosi is a dried up worthless

Botox bag of excrement.
#13 February 17, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Patty commented:

Sen. Ted Kaufman, D-Del., says a pay freeze would unfairly scapegoat federal workers without addressing real budget problems.

Another one! Real Budget Problems he says: 1,000 Washington has been working on no budget. It is asking quite a bit of Many in the Middle Class to follow a budget, yet Washington democrats think there are real budget problem, hypocrite, I can see how these people sleep at night.

Solyndra, waste, stimulus waste, Obama waste all are wasteful spending. Recovery Act waste, Volt waste, and let’s not forget the death of Americans, Mexico Borders, Brian Terry, a human life wasted for the likes of This administration, the men and women who are stilling at war, the reduction in the Military spending for these leaders to get their benefits. Wasteful.

Then they have the audacity to talk about real budget problems and keeping the big fat raises.

They are a BIG WASTE of my time. and $$$
#14 February 17, 2012 at 9:01 pm
FurryGuy commented:

#3 February 17, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Yep commented:

I’ve done government work, 10 years +, and in the private sector, and the level of incompetence, nest-feathering, and out-right laziness by a good number of government workers is astounding. Can’t fire ‘em because monopolistic unions would scream bloody murder, the deadwood usually gets “promoted” to another position because managers don’t want the headaches of dealing with people who should never have been hired in the first place. To top it off the overly excessive rules and regulations that the bureaucracy mandates make the people who could and would like to make a difference give up in despair. For many a government drone is is all about protecting their rice bowl, not about actually doing their job.

So are you going to question and/or disregard my “anecdotal” experience, hmmmmm?
#15 February 17, 2012 at 9:02 pm
STLHawkeye commented:

I’m told the Obama truth squad/brown shirts monitor this site. To my fellow Gateway brothers/sisters, CHANGE YOUR PASSWORDS OFTEN!! They’re watching
#16 February 17, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Druid commented:

Can’t fire ‘em because monopolistic unions would scream bloody murder,…

You cannot fire them because if you could, so would Hussein and he would have replaced them all with anybody who so much as donated $5 to his campaign. All Hussein can do is jack up spending to hire new, and at higher pay grades.

Same with every other President whether D or R.
#17 February 17, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Rock commented:

Wow Piglosi is looking rough, what happen someone cut off her botox supplier, or has she made the endangered species list. Poor dear is in a world of hurt if her mind is shriveling up like the rest of her.

Note to truth squad Obama’s acting budget director, Jeffrey Zients told congress Obama Care mandate is not a tax. Meanwhile, right across the street, in the Supreme Court, officials of the same Administration are telling the Justices the opposite can you check on that for us?
#18 February 17, 2012 at 11:42 pm
Rhoda R commented:

Druid, it’s not the unions, it’s the Civil Service Commission rules that protect Civil Servants from politically motivated firings which has the unintended consequence of making it difficult to fire unproductive employees.

I’m not sure what Pelosi is referring to, under the FERS system, The Govt pay 2-3% into the 401K and match, to some degree, what the CS pay up to some point. A CS can pay additional amounts into their 401K up to a total percent (limited by IRS rules). CS also pay into Social Security. The amount the Feds pay into the 401K dropped siginifcantly after they got past the CSRS cut off and figured they’d gotten as many CSRS suckers into the FERS system as they could.
#19 February 17, 2012 at 11:43 pm
Rhoda R commented:

What I’m trying to say is that the FERS system is a LOT less generous than it was even 15 years ago and there really isn’t all that much that the Govt can take since CS are almost self supporting anyway.
#21 February 18, 2012 at 2:19 am
squeaky commented:

“Druid, it’s not the unions, it’s the Civil Service Commission rules..” probably a combination. and then consider political pull……
#22 February 18, 2012 at 2:23 am
LarryG commented:

Money can buy a whole lot of loyalty. Those government people are not going to bite the hand that doles out the money, that hand belonging to the campaigner-in-Chief. Never mind the lessons of Greece and Spain. Inordinate pay is not a consideration nor is the damage done with the money spent that we don’ t have to pay these wages. The object is to stay in power so as to complete the demolition of the country.
#23 February 18, 2012 at 3:19 am
Yep commented:

#14…Furburger.

I’ve worked for the National Park Service and USGS, and we had
no union. What federal agencies have you worked for?

Militant Conservative….by your own words, you are don’t former
government superspook (which strikes me as a delusional pile
of crap), do why don’t you tell me all about working for the gov.

Typical liberal? You strike me as typically mentally ill
#24 February 18, 2012 at 3:23 am
Yep commented:

You people are clueless. The vast majority of federal job ate NOT union.

Civil Service jobs State, not Federal
#25 February 18, 2012 at 3:29 am
squeaky commented:

as they say – read it and weep. from doug ross … and gutting the rich is supposed to clear this mess?
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2012/02/chart-we-are-forgotten-33.html
#26 February 18, 2012 at 3:42 am
squeaky commented:

http://www.ehow.com/about_4865770_federal-civil-service-jobs.html
http://afge.org/
http://www.nffe.org/
http://www.nteu.org/
#27 February 18, 2012 at 3:55 am
squeaky commented:

i worked for a state agency and we had workers hired on and paid through other funding. no one knew who they were until some issue came up and they were treated differently…then you would hear that they were paid from account number this or that. civil service was always great for job postings that were only put up because they had too – the position being filled already with a connected – and people running through an “interviewing for the position” charade.
#28 February 18, 2012 at 4:26 am
squeaky commented:

the focus is probably more on d.c.. what’s a good salary in one place [lower cost of living] is no more than peanuts in another [higher cost of living]. the idea that a studio apartment would be the best i could do when i can’t make due with 2 1/2 bedrooms? i need a walk in closet [or 2].
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-19/beltway-earnings-make-u-s-capital-richer-than-silicon-valley.html
#29 February 18, 2012 at 8:19 am
SpideyTerry commented:

The only thing surprising about this is that she doesn’t mind federal employees paying ANYTHING for their pensions.
#30 February 18, 2012 at 9:03 am
DrEvil commented:

I have nearly 20 years of federal service, 3 years in the Army, and over 14 years as a DOD employee. Based on my own narrow experience I believe that 20-25% of federal employees could be fired on a Friday and on Monday the Department, Agency, Office etc would be more efficient and more effective. Unfortunately, this would only work if we could fire the right people, which will never happen under the current employment rules.

I would support numerous reductions to the overly generous benefit package. Feds get 10 paid holidays per year, that should be cut way back. I think that after 10 years of service the employee earns 8 hrs of annual leave each 2-week pay period, that equates to over five weeks of vacation time per year.

The retirement system is not nearly as generous as everyone seems to think as it was changed like 25 years ago, but I would support an higher contribution to the defined annuity portion, I think the current contribution is something like .75% so raising it by 1-1&1/2% is not going to break anyone.

far as President Obama’s “pay freeze” goes, it is true that employees are still eligible for step increases and promotions to higher grades but based on my own experience, the pay freeze has resulted in me earning about $5500 less this year than I would have without the pay freeze. I expected that President Bush would implement a similar pay freeze when we went into Iraq but that did not happen.

In my opinion 20% of fed employees are unemployable outside of government service, 60% are adequate (not useless, but not high achievers either), and the remaining 20% produce much more than the other 80% of employees and are overworked and under appreciated. Management has a tendency to pile more and more work on those people until they get fed up and find a job with another agency,

Have an Evil day
#31 February 18, 2012 at 9:31 am
Obamas regulation destroy jobs commented:

I suggest the government lay off the thousands and thousands of contractors & grants who make millions….SAIC, MITRE, NG, DELOTTE, BOOZ…Lockheed…1999-2005..up to 51.5%. The largest federal salaries is DOD, DHS and DVA. Look at those private CEO’s salaries compared to federal execs..
#32 February 18, 2012 at 10:03 am
MAJ Mike commented:

When I was a Civil Service Readiness Technician for the National Guard, I contrbuted 5% of my salary to my pension fund. The Fed’s matched my contributions up to 5%.
#33 February 18, 2012 at 3:06 pm
AuntieMadder commented:

Ma Pelosi: I Don’t Think Federal Employees Should Pay More For Their Extravagant Pensions. That’s what the private sector is for. There’s a reason we haven’t eliminated it entirely already. Duh.