In the last 24 hours Pastor Rick Warren pledged on his twitter page:
“I’d go to jail  rather than cave in to a goverment mandate that violates what God commands us to do. Would you? Acts 5:29

Likewise, one of the nation’s top Boptist leaders Dr. Richard Land vowed to do time rather than comply to Obama’s new HHS mandate.

Lifesite News reported:

One of the most influential evangelical leaders in the United States says Christians should go to jail rather than comply with the Obama administration’s mandate to provide all contraception, including abortion-inducing drugs, in their health care plans.

Dr. Richard Land, president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC), told LifeSiteNews.com “we will not comply” with the Dept. of Health and Human Services’ mandate requiring religious institutions to cover abortifacient products such as Plan B, Ella, and the IUD.

“We want the law changed, or else we’re going to write our letters from the Nashville jail, just like Dr. King wrote his from the Birmingham jail,” Dr. Land said.

Today Barack Obama spoke with democrats and doubled down on his HHS mandate that forces Christian organizations to provide free abortifacient and birth control drugs to all employees.

 

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  1. Obamacare has lots of penalty provisions, mostly fines.

    Are there criminal penalties for refusal to comply?

    I like the spunk of the quotes from the pastors, but would they really be facing jail time?

  2. Judica me Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta; ab homine iniquo et deloso erue me.

    (Judge me, O God, and distinguish my cause from the nation that is not holy; deliever me from the unjust and decietful man.)

  3. #1 Remco Kimber

    Yes, as an employer there are criminal penalties for failure to comply with federal “workplace regulations” up to and including jail time.

    What hasn’t been figured out yet is what happens when I burn my insurance card and post the video on YouTube for everyone to see.

    My guess is jail time but we’ll find out soon enough if the court fails to do the right thing and throw out O Blah Blah care in its entirety…

    When tens of millions begin to refuse to sign up for mandated insurance it will end.

  4. Don’t forget that numerous religious leaders and their churches have come out in support of government restrictions on religious freedoms. The following churches (including mine, ack) are proudly in partnership with the Obama administration’s decision, including Catholics:

    Catholics for Choice; the Central Conference of American Rabbis; Concerned Clergy for Choice; Disciples Justice Action Network; Episcopal Divinity School; Episcopal Women’s Caucus; Hadassah; the Jewish Reconstructionist Federation; Jewish Women International; Methodist Federation for Social Action; Muslims for Progressive Values; the National Council of Jewish Women; Planned Parenthood Clergy Advisory Board; the Rabbinical Assembly; the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice; the Religious Institute; Society for Humanistic Judaism; The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism; Union Theological Seminary; Unitarian Universalist Association; United Church of Christ; and Women’s League for Conservative Judaism represent millions of religious leaders and people of faith across the country.

    http://www.religionnews.com/press-releases/major-mainstream-religious-leaders-support-white-house-on-contraceptive-cov

  5. What are the criminal pnalties for a president who tramples the Constitution?

  6. Obummer has opened up a can of asswhoopin on himself. November 2012 can’t get here soon enough.

  7. #4

    “Catholics for Choice.” Would that be synonymous with “Nancy Pelosi Catholics” or simply “Liberals who used to be Catholic?”

  8. “We want the law changed, or else we’re going to write our letters from the Nashville jail, just like Dr. King wrote his from the Birmingham jail,” Dr. Land said.

    ALLELUIA, I intend to do whatever I can to help. Obama is a dictator. He is a Marxist and he follows the rules of radicals. And if Obama can do this what else can he do. This is no a president duty. He serves us and protects his nation. If he is re-elected he will elect liberals into The Supreme Court. America needs to wake up and Challenge this President to stop shoving mandates, laws and regulations down our throats.

    He needs to be impeached.

    Dr. Richard Land should never march alone. We need to get behind him, this is the Revolution.

    If it isn’t I don’t know what is.

  9. Being a Catholic, I have this to say:

    when Archbishop George Niederauer publically excommunicates Nancy Pelosi, I will think they have decided to chop off the head of the snake the Church crawled into bed with 76 years ago.

  10. OT Sort of:

    Is Obama Really In Good Shape For Re-election? Or Is The Media Lying Again?

    Barack Obama7639 Is Obama Really In Good Shape For Re election? Or Is The Media Lying Again?

    Gallup Polling is caught between what its thousands of interviews say about Barack Obama’s reelection chances and what it longs for the facts to be.

    They do their best to hide the truth with suspiciously timed releases and obfuscating language. Nevertheless, embedded in its latest report on voter attitudes, Gallup’s delivers more bad news for Obama. Try as it did to put a happy face on the dangerously low level of “satisfaction” in the electorate, Gallup can’t do much with a 22% rate. Bill Clinton, George W Bush and Ronald Reagan all had more than 41% rates on their way to reelection, but George H.W. Bush was at 22% in 1992 when he lost to Clinton.

    Voters’ sentiment on the economy shows more weakness for Obama with 56% saying it is getting worse while just 38% see it getting better. This -25 in Gallup’s Economic Confidence Index compares too favorably to Bush senior’s -31 during June of 1992 to provide any real encouragement for Obama.

    Gallup’s attempt to talk up the improvement in the unemployment rate as reported last week (8.3%) runs into a serious problem since for the least two years Gallup has been saying the real rate (8.6%) is higher than being reported. When the underemployed numbers (18.7%) are included things get still worse for Obama.

    The current 71% of Americans with economic matters on their minds is reminiscent of Bush senior’s ill-fated reelection campaign 20 years ago.

    Rasmussen’s numbers

    The Rasmussen Report shows us the sour attitudes of “uncommitted” voters which carries a subsurface problem not being focused on by many analysts. The sample is small (only 12%) but the trend is clear: just 20% of these likely voters approve of Obama’s job performance.

    This 12% “uncommitted” could mean 88% of voters have already made a decision. With the enthusiasm rates among Democrats as low as they are a recovery by Obama looks less likely by the month.

    Note: neither of these reports was completed before the showdown with the Catholic Church over the issue of forcing faith based institutions to offer abortion services as part of their employee health insurance plans.

    If Obama is on track for reelection, there is little evidence to support it.

    http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/

  11. I pray our nation wakes up…or these will be the first, and by the time we make a stand, we may end up standing alone.

  12. The Army-Obama-Pelosi coordination is obvious and troubling.

    There are two very important lessons here. First, there is no doubt that a state-sponsored war on Catholicism is actively underway. This is not surprising, because the Obama election has been consistently misinterpreted to give validation to full liberalism, and full liberalism is founded on the pernicious myth of personal “selfism.”

    This loveless and disordered brand of freedom, with libertinism being its most visible manifestation, relies heavily on the shaky architecture of relativism (a different set of rules for each individual). Libertines hate nothing more than to hear the words “You should not.” Full liberalism is therefore naturally threatened by — and, if possible, demands the irrelevance of — any significant objective moral system.

    The Catholic Church, with its dogma, magisterial authority, and two-thousand-year-old tradition, is the most visible and significant source of objective morals and norms in the world today. It is liberal enemy number one.

    Fortunately, the Catholic Church has overcome state-sponsored enemies many times before. However, it has always done so with only the one-two punch of God’s grace and human witness. This gets to the second lesson.

    Lay Catholics — not just bishops and priests — must bear witness through their thoughts, words, and actions. The mere fact that Obama, Pelosi, and others have accurately cited cafeteria Catholic practices as tenets of the state-sponsored faith proves Christ’s words: “He who is not with me is against me” (Matt 12:30).

    As with all of His teaching, Christ said it, and He meant it. Any faith that lacks external manifestations is false, and Christians must “not give others to understand, because of their passivity … that they do not hold their faith to be the most important thing in their lives”2. Obama’s and Pelosi’s eager exploitation proves that Catholic-lite is not helpful in the witness and apostolate departments.

    Regardless of how Catholics voted in 2008, they probably didn’t anticipate having to choose between unjust government policies and their faith. Although it may not seem so, such a choice is a gift — a gift of the opportunity to visibly demonstrate one’s convictions and faith. It is an opportunity that, if courageously taken, will accrue interest in the soul bank and be of incorruptible benefit. As Pope Pius XI said, “[l]et us thank God that he makes us live among the present problems. It is no longer permitted to anyone to be mediocre.” Catholics, now is your chance. An incredible opportunity has presented itself: the opportunity of witness.

    So what’s it going to be? For or against?

    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/02/obamas_war_against_catholics.html#ixzz1lqmJ90Jf

  13. I agree with you retire05.
    I do not for one minute think that the Catholic Church has their head in the right place when it comes to Obama but in this instance, thank God, I think they have been pushed over the line. AND I really doubt it is over contraception(like condoms or the pill) as much as it is over the other absolute objectionable practices. I think the idiots finally realized that Obama fully intends that they support and perform abortions. It took them long enough the wake the hell up, and I am very grateful. But I’m not holding my breathe for more Obama opposition.
    They just are too damn wimpy and mindlessly liberal.

  14. Regardless of how Catholics voted in 2008, they probably didn’t anticipate having to choose between unjust government policies and their faith.

    They better not make this mistake and vote for this Dictator a second time.

  15. Cardinal-Designate Dolan: President Obama Needs To Stop ‘Intruding Into Internal Life Of A Church’

    NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — There was a sharp rebuke Wednesday from Cardinal-designate Timothy Dolan that put even more pressure on the president to calm a widening election year uproar. The issue at hand was the president’s insistence that Catholic institutions provide free birth control to their employees.

    Dolan came to the South Bronx to bless a library, but he had no blessings — just harsh words — for President Barack Obama, who wants Catholic institutions to pay for birth control, the morning after pill and other services for people who work for them.

    “The federal government should do what it’s traditionally done since July 4, 1776, namely back out of intruding into the internal life of a church,” Dolan told CBS 2’s Marcia Kramer.

    The leader of the New York Archdiocese picked up support from Speaker John Boehner, who said either Obama reverses the policy or the House will.

    “The federal government has drifted dangerously beyond its constitutional boundaries. This attack by the federal government on religious freedom in our country must not stand and will not stand,” Boehner said.

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/02/08/cardinal-designate-dolan-president-obama-needs-to-stop-intruding-into-internal-life-of-a-church/

  16. More surprises are yet to come in the OBAMA care bill.

  17. I am so proud of our “Boptist” pastors. They’ve finally made it into the “Goteway Pundit :D

    Just kidding, I enjoy the blog. NEWT/PERRY 2012!:D

  18. catholics voted for obama for the same reason everyone else did. a day in day out never ending eight year smear campagin by american tass. most people were going to vote for the democrat no matter who the hell it was.

  19. First they came for the Catholics…

    Obama is showing his Sturmabteilung how to beat people down. We are Germany, 1930.

  20. Patty, the AT article includes a statement from Obama where he quotes the Guttmacher Institute. Most people don’t know that the Guttmacher Institute is just an arm of Planned Parenthood. So eliminate the middle man, and Obama was basically spouting the rhetoric of PP.

    The problem I have is all the outrage now being shown by Catholic leaders when they have been more than happy to crawl into bed with the Democrat Party although Democrats have been trying to destroy their faith for years. Want proof? Well, let me present you to C. J. Doyle, head of the Catholic Action League of Massachusetts. In this speech, Doyle is singing the praises of Michael J. Curely, a MA politian, and Democrat, who would have made Huey Long look like a Boy Scout.

    “The conventional story of James Michael Curley is a tale of vivid personalities, heartrending tragedies, vexing scandals (he went to jail twice) and turbulent bare-knuckle politics. Lots in all of this drama, however, is Curely’s substantive and strikingly progressive record on a host of social justice issues including the rights of labor, access to healthcare and equal pay for women.”

    Note the two words I put in italics: progressive and social justice.

    Doyle is Catholic, but above all, he is a dedicated Democrat, just like most Catholic leaders. He climbed into bed with his Marxist buddies but now, he is shocked that Marxists would really act like Marxists.

    In all the letters written by the Catholic bishops read in all the parishes this past Sunday, not ONE of them called for Catholics to vote against the Democrats who are hell bent on destroy their faith. NOT ONE. And now, after almost 80 years of the hiarchy of the Church selling Catholics down the river, I am supposed to be surprised?

    I may have been born at night, but it wasn’t last night.



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