After Cutting Pay For Soldiers in Harm’s Way… Obama to Cut Healthcare Benefits For Active Duty Soldiers, Too

They will now only get the $7.50 daily proration for the individual days they are actually serving in harm’s way instead of for the whole month. (DOD)

Barack Obama cut pay for military men and women serving in harm’s way starting this month.

Now the Obama Administration is planning on cutting healthcare benefits for active duty soldiers while leaving unionized civilian defense workers’ benefits untouched.
The Free Beacon reported:

The Obama administration’s proposed defense budget calls for military families and retirees to pay sharply more for their healthcare, while leaving unionized civilian defense workers’ benefits untouched. The proposal is causing a major rift within the Pentagon, according to U.S. officials. Several congressional aides suggested the move is designed to increase the enrollment in Obamacare’s state-run insurance exchanges.

The disparity in treatment between civilian and uniformed personnel is causing a backlash within the military that could undermine recruitment and retention.

The proposed increases in health care payments by service members, which must be approved by Congress, are part of the Pentagon’s $487 billion cut in spending. It seeks to save $1.8 billion from the Tricare medical system in the fiscal 2013 budget, and $12.9 billion by 2017.

Many in Congress are opposing the proposed changes, which would require the passage of new legislation before being put in place.

“We shouldn’t ask our military to pay our bills when we aren’t willing to impose a similar hardship on the rest of the population,” Rep. Howard “Buck” McKeon, chairman of the House Armed Services Committee and a Republican from California, said in a statement to the Washington Free Beacon. “We can’t keep asking those who have given so much to give that much more.”

And once again… Doug Ross reminds us:

This follows efforts by the president to make veterans pay for their own health insurance — even those injured in combat — and his calls last month for raises for millions of federal paper-pushers.

In other words, the president continues to siphon off more and more money from our defense infrastructure — hitting our warriors first, last and hardest in the process — to fund his green energy scams and public sector union cronies (which, coincidentally, also contribute heavily to his campaign).

And yet Obama will be more than happy to use these same soldiers for a photo op.

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  • Patty

    Armed Services chairman: Obama is anti-military

    The chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, in a harsh attack on the Obama administration Monday, accused the president of viewing American military power as a negative force in the world, and planning to “gut” defense spending through the congressional deficit-reduction committee.

    “It is my suspicion that the White House and congressional Democrats” designed the supercommittee process “for one purpose: to force Republicans to choose between raising taxes or gutting defense,” said California Rep. Howard P. “Buck” McKeon, the House Armed Services Committee chairman.

    Mr. McKeon also lashed out at the administration’s defense and security policies that he asserted are based on a negative view of U.S. power in the world.

    “President Obama’s policies often seem reflective of an ideology that treats American power as the principal adversary, not ally, to world peace,” he told an audience at the American Enterprise Institute.

    That view “flies in the face of both history and experience. And it resigns us to national decline,” he added.

    “Power in benevolent hands is a virtue, not a vice.”

    White House officials declined to respond.

    Under the deficit reduction act passed by Congress this summer, if the supercommittee cannot agree on a package of measures to reduce the national debt, the Defense Department, already facing spending cuts of $350 billion over 10 years, will face another half trillion or more dollars in automatic cuts — what defense officials have termed a “doomsday trigger.”

    “That political gamesmanship is simply unacceptable,” Mr. McKeon said of the deal, which he voted to approve while expressing grave concerns about the potential impact on defense spending. READ MORE

  • FurryGuy

    It isn’t like active duty service members vote Democrat like unions do, so no wonder this criminal administration wants to make service members pay more.

  • Patty

    Obama is just anti-military, he is 70’s love

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  • Patty

    Leaving Iraq too soon, now, look at it.

    Afghanistan hates us and our military who have trained them to defend themselves and shoot our troops in the head.

    Iran, turmoil, Syria turmoil, and much of this is Obama fault. Did anyone see the Evil eye of Glooney when a fox reporter was talking to him and said “what do you think about Obama?”

    Glooney said, “Oh, the PRESIDENT not Obama and snarled at him, is great.

    How many times have the disgraced President Bush, and called him Bush. It is evident that none of these celebrities know what is really happening to our military and their families.

    Obama is a disgrace, Yes, he is president, not mine, but a President stands strong with his men. The military is the most important part of this nation and its freedom. Many sacrificed their life for him and all of us.

    He is disrespecting the office of the presidency. He has failed us and we are suffering more each day he does such horrible things. He needs to be impeached and I am wondering why the delay. Too much contrary to the job of a president has transpired over the past 3 years that no other president could ever get away with.

  • Patty

    He’s great
    not is great

  • Sorry to Live in Illinois

    I think this is more incentive for the generals to surround the WH with tanks. Our Constitution is under attack by the radicals occupying the WH so its time to protect our country from some of the “domestic enemies.”

  • FurryGuy

    Barry can screw active duty members because he knows they won’t mutiny and stage a coup against him.

  • Patty

    Liberals want peace, that isn’t going to happen in the world. That is like a wish.

    Liberals want electric, wind or solar energy and that isn’t going to happen. Totally.

    Liberals want us to help other nations and all will be free from illness and national disasters. That won’t happen.

    Liberals want no war, Iran will come around to our side, Syria just needs time and they too will have peace and love.

    All the hungry in the world fed. No more disease and all babies that are unwanted will be aborted.

    Borders will be open to everyone, we will live in Obamaville, Happy to have government dictate to us what we eat, drink, drive, how we raise our childeren and the world under the Government’s thumb will be better.

    So, the heck with the military we won’t need them, the liberals will have their save places living the high life until the attacks on us are over.

    I say instead of being corrected by the likes of Glooney, Moore, Mayer, Fallen, O’Donnell, Sarandan, Judd and all the bleeding hearts, send them to the front lines.

  • When I was in the Army I was a paratrooper. That was in 1966. I joined in July of 1966 and by the middle of December I had gone through Basic Training, Advanced Infantry Training (AIT), and went right on to Paratrooper Training at Ft. Benning, Ga. . That was alot for five months, but by that time I had been promoted to PFC, and after “jump school” I was getting $66.00 a month what was called “hazardous duty pay”. It wasn’t the money I’ll guarantee you because it was a pitance compared to what I was getting ready to do and that was all the specialized training I had volunteered for in preparation for combat. But I felt privliged because in the five months during my intense training the Army was drafting 25,000 guys a month to train so they could go to Vietnam right after AIT(see above). That meant in a measly 16 weeks 25,000 guys were facing Charlie in the jungles of Southeast Asia!

    Some of these guys were still a E2, or the grade you automatically got after AIT if you hadn’t been good enough to get a promotion after Basic Training like I was. Those guys were making less than $50 dollars a month with the $66 dollars hazardous duty pay. So guys were joining the Army back then not for the money but to defend Southeast Asia from Communist takeover. It’s to bad they didn’t know that their own country was already mostly taken over by the Socialist/Communists. The Army should have been training us to go into our own cities to root out Communists in the nations colleges and universities and find the Communist professors and shoot them where we found them. But instead we were sent ten thousand miles away to kill VC and NVA. They were Communist to, but at least they weren’t Saul Alinsky who was prowling the campuses back then teaching young minds who are ten times smarter than any grad these days because of our background.

    I say “our” because Vietnam was the first teenage war, and on average our soldiers had the highest I.Q. and highest education of any generation to ever to have fought for this country. We were smart, and warrior’s to. We could explain the history of the America’s in one minute, and the next kill six gooks walking down a trail in the jungle.

    So we weren’t fighting for the money. But see, these kids these days know all about income equity and how much they are worth. I’m sure they don’t like the fact that Obama is treating them like they’re some kind of hired help. These kids know the difference between good pay for what you’re doing, and when you are being ripped off. They won’t stay long in the service. The first opportunity they are given to get out….they will.

  • Patty

    Some quotes from Obama

    “Whatever we once were, we’re no longer a Christian nation.”

    “America does not presume to know what is best for everyone”

    “As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”

    “In America, there’s a failure to appreciate Europe’s leading role in the world.”

    “The United States is still working through some of our own darker periods in our history.”

    “Too often, the United States has not pursued and sustained engagement with our neighbors.”

    “The United States will be willing to acknowledge past errors where those errors have been made.”

    “So let me be clear: no system of government can or should be imposed upon one nation by any other.”

    “We need to internalize this idea of excellence. Not many folks spend a lot of time trying to be excellent.”

    “Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part of promoting peace.”

    “Our country still struggles with the legacies of slavery and segregation, the past treatment of Native Americans.”

    “The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn’t. But she is a typical white person….”

    “That’s what I’m opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics.”

    “My job to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your enemy. We sometimes make mistakes. We have not been perfect.”

    “So the record is clear: Rather than keeping us safer, the prison at Guantanamo has weakened American national security. It is a rallying cry for our enemies.”

  • Patty



    Great post but Obama is reducing our military, Nuclear defense and for these soldiers they deserve better.

  • Patty

    “Whatever we once were, we’re no longer a Christian nation.”

    This quote speaks loud and clearly on the views of this president. Especially of late.

  • Patty

    Military needs to pay less or free healthcare. I maybe vicious here but they are losing limbs, brain injuries. I suppose organizations like Wounded Warriors are suppose to take up the slack.

    This president is Cutting our Military and I wish I could scream this from the roof tops.

    Our nation is our Military. Our defense is in the Military. Good Grief.

  • Redwine

    The regime’s steps to unionize, and thus destroy, the military…
    Obama Reveals Beginnings of Unionizing Plan for American Military?

    Congress must be pushed to prevent this.

  • Your link says now they only get the extra pay when they are in harm’s way.

  • Ginger

    If makes anyone eel better, defense workers healthcare benefits already suck. The premiums are outrageous and just went up.
    Having said that, what he is doing is absolutely uncalled for. The man needs to be voted out… 3 years ago.

  • pink tie Republican

    We’ve been bankrupted and will be lucky to have any military in 5 years.

    Don’t worry, though, Admiral Barry is on the case, along with General Moochie.

  • Marsh626

    It enrages me knowing that illegal immigrants are getting billions of dollars worth of socialist government goodies while American citizens get screwed.

  • Daniel West

    Imminent Danger Pay (IDP) at $7.50 per day makes sense when you look at the picture outside of the two main operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. There are a host of nations in which IDP is authorized and many SM’s spend as little as one day in the area and previously earned the full month IDP rate of $225 ($7.50 times 30 equals $225). Also, some trips could last a week which would contain the end of one month and the begining of another and they would get the full two month rate of $450. Ships would be in an IDP area for a single day and every SM on board would get the $225. This change makes sense is should have been enacted long ago. When reporting on things of this nature, it is better to keep perspective and report the facts rather than saying “The White House Hates the Military.” I am not keen on the administration, but we need useful, objective arguments rather than bold headlines.

  • Gride

    As if my parents needed another reason to hate Obama.

  • Daniel West

    “The disparity in treatment between civilian and uniformed personnel is causing a backlash within the military that could undermine recruitment and retention.”

    Yes, in order to drop the number of active duty members by the proposed 50K, there must be disincentives as well. Army leadership is ordering commanders to not exceed 100% retention and only to allow the best to reenlist. Too bad we have had a decade of filling our ranks with felons.

  • Robert

    “We shouldn’t ask our military to pay our bills when we aren’t willing to impose a similar hardship on the rest of the population,”

    Why don’t they cut back on some of the fat government bureaucracy besides the military? If just never happens, in spite of the government drowning us all in rules and regulations.

  • wanumba

    The disparity in treatment between civilian and uniformed personnel is causing a backlash within the military that could undermine recruitment and retention.


    They know exactly what they are doing. They screw the volunteer military enough to severely drop off recruitment then they voila have their national security crisis to offer up the ever ready (already introduced into session) Universal Slavery ACt ie Universal DRAFT.

    THat’s 18-42, Male and Female NO EXEMPTIONS for one of THREE services:
    1) military
    2) National service

    ALL under the direct authority of the POTUS.

    WHy not just call it what is it : SLAVERY FOR ANY PURPOSE

    The Democrats radicals have LONG designed to DESTROY the military structure that has protected this nation for over 200 years…the successful structure that replace the FAILED homeland defense model.

    David Horowitz was right to call these horrid people “Destructive Generation”

    Thsi will be the most important election in the nation’s history. It won’t be pretty either.

  • Militant Conservative

    Obama is the face of evil.

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  • squeaky

    […for military families and retirees to pay sharply more for their healthcare, while leaving unionized civilian defense workers’ benefits untouched. The proposal is causing a major rift..]
    and just how much clearer does he have to get. for a group concerned so much about what’s fair in life they certainly exhibit none themselves when it comes to others especially those they consider not to be in agreement with their particular cause. when you step away from the progressive point you become like an apostate to islam.

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  • squeaky

    “Obama is the face of evil.” and they only like their evil on the silver screen with a hero who will save the day. in real life not so much. could be why some are so shy to even consider it.
    it’s not like history has never seen a man with evil intentions. we have had more than enough examples of evil men/women with documented results of their reign of terror.

  • 1RedBeard

    Let’s take a survey to find out which people are surprised by this latest Obama treachery, and then revoke their voting privileges on the grounds of mental incompetence.

  • Conservative/Liberal

    Everyone of you go soak your heads in sink full of water

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  • Militant Conservative

    #31 February 28, 2012 at 5:24 am
    Conservative/Liberal commented:

    You first in the toilet. Wimp

  • Greg

    Downsizing without a plan or budget yields boneheaded action like messing with Hazard duty pittances and pissing off the bulk of the troops. If the state dept and military were to just lay off .1% of its million dollar a year contractors it would have a much larger impact on the bottom line than splitting hairs on seven dollar per diems. The troops are very much aware of the cost of the security, logistic and other contractors that they work allong side of and to not start deliberate cost reduction there is just poor management.
    After all, the objective at the end of downsizing is to have a viable workforce that supports the mission. Pissed off troops will not do that very well.

  • Given his past interactions with US soldiers, this isn’t exactly surprising.

  • Redlite

    Hard to imagine how he can get re=elected by pissing off most of the Christians and the Military. But the Military absentee vote never gets counted anyway.

    His only real support is the 1% OWS fruitcakes.

  • Multitude

    Lots of Woodward and Bernstein opportunities sitting out there as low hanging fruit. Panetta apparently came in to function as a sort of “Chainsaw Al” Dunlap who slaughtered Sunbeam through vicious and reckless downsizings.

    Meanwhile the State Department is bloating like Hillary’s thighs.

  • Hugh

    This is just gross. It is criminal given the realities we face as a nation.

  • wtd

    Obama cutting pay and benefits to our soldiers is simply criminal. Don’t forget Obama’s three page apology letter to Karzai as well as the earlier thread NATO promises to put koran burners on public trial asap
    Thinning out our arsenal and armed forces, one way or another. Treason by any other name.

  • Arch

    Daniel is correct about some abusing combat pay.

    During the Vietnam War, some Military Airlift Command pilots never missed a month’s combat pay by flying over Vietnam on the last day of the month, spending the night in Thailand and flying home over the combat zone the next day. Combat pay was $65, but officers could also claim a $500 per month tax exemption. Enlisted troops entire base pay was exempt. I never begrudged them this practice because those were the rules.

  • bob mcmain

    obama never served in the military he has no idea what it is to serve or answer the call of duty.but is quick to make us all pay remember the bum at the polls.america the land of the free and the home of the brave.

  • Arch

    This is why the democrats must never again be given control of national defense.

    What we are now seeing is what Carter did to the military – no pay raises, cancelled procurements, no spare parts, limitations on fuel. The airlines were raiding us for pilots and maintenance personnel. One day, an entire tactical fighter squadron at Homestead AFB FL went to military personnel and applied for separation from the service en masse. It set off all the alarm bells.

    Lots of good NCOs refused to reenlist and bailed out. Some were smarter and extended their current hitch to the end of November. When Carter lost, as I expect will also, they re-upped.

    Obama’s numbers are dropping like a rock now that the phoney economic recovery is being debunked. His contributors are not meeting his expectations for a billion dollar campaign war chest. This is panic in the executive branch.

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  • I can’t believe that this President has not been impeached! Jail would be also a good place for him!

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  • Joanne

    Sheriff Joe’s report on Obama’s eligibility comes out on March 1st – keep tuned for this. God willing this Sheriff has not sold his soul to the devil and will reveal the truth. A Sheriff can arrest Obama for treason.

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  • Richard Hall

    When you talk about civil service paper pushers, you might want to be sure you are not talking about NASA personnel. I have worked for NASA for over 36 years as an engineer, and I can tell you that any money that you give NASA is headed out to our overall economy via R&D, helping other companies in this country solve their technical and manufacturing problems, etc., etc. Much of what we do that actually helps others besides NASA is not even known by many of our own people. I worked here for over 10 years before I knew about it.

    NASA pulls more than it’s own weight.

  • This government treats our tropops like red headed step children. Cut their pay, cut the benefits, and impose more hardships on them and their families. However its ok to pay private security contractors in the ME 100’s of Millions of dollars to protect special interests there…

    This will not change regardless of who is elected, Dem, Rep, it does not matter, they are both corrupt and both play for the same team…

    It is time for the Tea Party, and all Private militias who love the Constitution to stop talking and start acting… The time is now… A few million marching on Washington and demand they all resign and by force if necessary… Less talk and more action is what is needed now…

    God Bless America….

  • Vicky Hernandez

    Maybe the Prez is going to use the money he “saves” to fund his so-called civilian defense force. Just like the one Chavez has started with Venezuelan “youth”… Red t-shirts ‘n’ all!!!!

  • LaInfidel

    This is more of the muslim in chief Barrack Hussein Obamas plan to slowly weaken America. His initial Defense budget cuts are the beginning of the end of the Military as we know it. This latest move will almost wipe out what is left. He is trying to push all Retired, current Enlisted and current Officers to have no choice but to be forced into a state run health care exchanges. This gives the muslim in chief more control over all of the Military healthcare. Good bye Tri-Care.

    But the muslim in chief is going to help his jihadist pals at Gitmo by building them a $750,000 soccer field. Maybe he will fund some activities for the muslim brotherhood or cair….Not surprising

  • your mama

    I thought Obama said he would reward companies for hiring vets.
    Is this the pathetic payoff?
    I hope the active duty troops remember this at the ballot box.

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  • bg


    Soros & Frank & Paul et al

    [The rather creepy Institute for Policy Studies issued a paper proposing that Obama act as king and rule through executive orders. The New American Foundation is not only backed by Soros but has his son on its leadership council. The Center for American Progress is run by the co-chair of Obama’s transition team and is, for all intents and purposes, the think tank of the White House. All three are Soros funded.]

    Obama & Paul et al

    [In 1933 the German establishment thought it could use Hitler to restore a modicum of order to the confused and confusing Weimar Republic. In fact, Hitler did strengthen the German establishment, but not exactly in the way the bankers and businessmen had wanted; and now, fifty years later, it is clear who was using whom. Nevertheless, the Western World did not complain in 1933 because Hitler, though a fascist and a totalitarian, was seen, like countless American puppet dictators today, as someone who leaves the established order in place.]

    [Ron Paul proposed to put a bunch of Soros funded think tank experts in charge of dismantling the US military. Think about that for a moment. And then think about it again. Ron Paul supporters can see conspiracies in a glass of water, can they see anything wrong with this picture? Can they see anything wrong with having a man from a group that was investigated for its Communist ties in the driver’s seat on national defense?]

    bit more here, and a lot more here, and here..


  • bg


    It Has Always Been The Soldier

    It is the soldier,
    not the President who gives US Democracy.

    It is the soldier,
    not the Congress who takes Care of US.

    It is the soldier,
    not the Reporter who has given us Freedom of Press.

    It is the soldier,
    not the Poet who has given us Freedom of Speech.

    It is the soldier,
    not the campus [community] Organizer who
    has given us the Freedom to Demonstrate.

    It is the soldier,
    who salutes the flag;
    who serves beneath the flag,
    and whose coffin is draped by the flag,
    that allows the protester to burn the flag.

    ~ Father Dennis O’Brien, US Marine Corp. Chaplain

    God Bless America!

    God Bless Soldiers everywhere for putting THEIR
    lives on the line to protect us ALL from terrorism!


  • bg
  • EBL

    Why Drudge cracks me up sometimes.

    Not that this is a laughing matter.

  • liberalmann

    Obama has raised benefits for soldiers and veterans more than any President in recent history.

    The feigned outrage of wingnuts is laughable. If you dig a little deeper and use a little critical thinking (which wingnuts don’t often do) you’ll find:

    “…the White House and congressional Democrats” designed the supercommittee process “for one purpose: to force Republicans to choose between raising taxes or gutting defense,” said California Rep. Howard P. “Buck” McKeon, the House Armed Services Committee chairman.

  • Carol O’Beirne