Newt and Rick Perry Fail to Qualify for Virginia’s GOP Primary
Posted by Jim Hoft on Saturday, December 24, 2011, 9:02 AM
How does this happen?
Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry failed to qualify for Virginia’s March 6 Republican primary.
FOX Nation reported:
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has failed to qualify for Virginia’s March 6 Republican primary, a development that complicates his bid to win the GOP presidential nomination.
“After verification, RPV has determined that Newt Gingrich did not submit required 10k signatures and has not qualified for the VA primary,” the Republican Party of Virginia announced early Saturday on its Twitter website.
Texas Gov. Rick Perry also fell short of the 10,000 signatures of registered voters required for a candidate’s name to be on the primary ballot, but former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and Texas Rep. Ron Paul will be on the ballot.
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RedBeard commented:
What kind of idiots are running those campaigns? How difficult could it be to round up 10,000 signatures?
daryl commented:
Yes Virginia, but you still have Ron Paul (and Romney). Enjoy.
Guess Ron Paul is not the only one to lay claim to this:
” Paul has been termed the “intellectual godfather” of the Tea Party movement”.
Ron Paul – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul
But you can’t attribute to his extended age his seeming so absolute nuttiness, because he was even worse when he was younger.
Ron Paul on Morton Downey Show in 1988 (Part 1) – YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOPCYVK76-k&feature=email
Helen commented:
I wrote this at another website. I stand by it. The establishment is pushing Romney down our throats.
At the time of the Huckabee debate w/ the Attorney Generals, I had already made my decision to vote for Newt. I was irked by the harshness of the questions for Newt from the Virginia Atty General, Ken Cuccinelli. Not only the harshness of the questioning but the AG’s look of utter disgust when asking the questions. I remember thinking he was in the bag for Romney. Now this! I bet Cuccinelli is right in the middle of this mess.
CT commented:
SUSPICIOUS
NeoKong commented:
Well…guess that settles it.
Romney for President.
Conservative to the Core commented:
Dear GOP, thanks for the little, pretend primary. It was fun while it lasted.
*sigh*
Conservative to the Core commented:
“We do not consider Perry a factor . . . we know who will be our nominee.”
~Georgette Mosbacher
Gatewaypundit warned us on October 5, 2011. The primary was a sham.
jorgen commented:
#5 NeoKong:
Well…guess that settles it.
Romney for President.
Or Obozo as Romney is as uninteresting as McCain was. Especially if a third party runs.
Bill Mitchell commented:
The joke here is that VA is completely a moot point.
This thing will be long over before we get to VA.
Also, right before submitting signatures Newt texted Karl Rove and told him he had almost 15,000, and now we don’t even have 10k? Something doesn’t add up here.
reliapundit commented:
if they can’t run a proper campaign, then how can any sane person expect them to run a proper administration?
iow: these jokers are not POTUS material.
daryl commented:
Don’t forget Virginia chose Jim Webb as their Senator in a squeeker of a win (by .05 % of the vote) over George Allen all because of Allen’s uttering the word “macaque” at a member of the press in ’06. Webb isn’t running for reelection.
Something is rotten in Virginia and I’m damned if I know what it is.
Proximity to D.C. maybe?
MikeSilver commented:
The fix is in. Meet our nominee: Bob Big Gov. Dole, er. John McAmensty, er. Mitt Romney-Care
Ruebacca commented:
All of Bushes entitlement programs (P. Drugs, No Child left behind, Ag Subsidies) are all threatened by a Conservative. The Whigs could not be made to fight slavery. The Republicans can’t be made to fight big government.
We need to build a new party based on shrinking government.
bigL commented:
Well, I guess that settles it-
Obama gets another 4 yrs….
-ther fixed it for ya
(What am I sayin’?)
Anyway does Virginia have the ACORN-backed Regisrtrars of Voters and Sec of States like Minn?
aprilnovember811 commented:
Don’t bother voting everyone, we’re now Venezuela.
Coasta commented:
Someone and/or some others had a nice big deposit into their account(s). This reeks of obot juice!
zane commented:
Here is the problem as I see it:
first: the rules were changed by the Va GOP this year. Any candidate who got over 15K signatures will not have those signatures verified. i.e Mitt, who got 16,000 signatures.
second: that rule was thrown out the window for Paul as the WaPo reports he only got 14,361 signatures, yet…………….Paul’s signatures were NOT verified and he has been certified to be on the Va ballot. Ummmmmmm.
third: Did Romney have insider information that (this year) if he got over 15K signatures they would NOT be verified?
fourth: it is being reported that Romney and Paul, both, recruited their signatures at polling places last spring. Since when are candidates allowed to campaign at a polling place? Federal law says that you cannot have anything representing one candidate over another within 100 feet of a polling place. That means that the Romney/Paul teams had to be allowed to shout out to voters and get them to walk over and sign their petitions, which is generally against federal voting laws.
It doesn’t matter who you support in this primary, to disallow the candidates on new, trumped up rules, cheats the voters of Virginia. And the rest of us. Wonder if Jefferson is turning in his grave over these “new” rules?
Now Virginia will have to assign their delegates proportionally this year because they are holding their primary before April 1st. That means if Romney gets 50% and Paul gets 50%, they only get half the delegates. Any state holding its primary after April 1st, will be allowed to assign their delegates on a winner-take-all basis. It is possible we will get a brokered convention because NO candidate has the required number of delegates to take the nomination.
Seth commented:
I live in Virginia and was interested in signing the petition to get Newt on the ballot here. I got a robo call from the Gingrich campaign just two days before the Thursday deadline for getting at least 10,000 signatures with at least 400 from each electoral district as VA law requires. This call specified places to sign up that were mostly something like a twenty mile or more one way trip from where I live, and were in areas further out from Washington, where suburban or even rural populations were nowhere near as dense as closer in–perhaps they needed to meet the 400 signatures from each district requirement, I don’t know. I also noticed that the windows of time to sign up were not all day as you might expect, but were a couple of hours at each location, and some after dark, too.
Well, in any case, I tried to find out if there was anyplace closer that I could sign the petition. I searched the Web and not only did a location, address, and telephone numbers for a Gingrich campaign headquarters in VA not pop up at the top of the Google search results, it took probably ten or more minutes of repeated and diligent searching just to scare up their location and street address in Arlington county, and I was never was able to find a telephone number. In the course of this search for information I also called Gingrich national campaign headquarters, which could supply neither an address or telephone number for the Gingrich HQ in Arlington, and who referred me to the VA Republican Party—hardly strong allies of Gingrich, I imagine– but although they were friendly and made an effort, they were not able to supply the necessary information either.
Now I read that the Gingrich campaign collected only 11,050 signatures by the deadline—far less than the recommended 15,000–and that they were subsequently disqualified when enough signatures were disqualified to drop them below the required 10,000.
Bottom line, an extraordinarily weak, chaotic, and ineffectual effort by the Gingrich campaign here in VA, which does not bode well for their performance in a general election.
Larkin commented:
Write ‘em in.
workingclass artist commented:
If as Politico reported Paul & Romney stood outside the voting polls to collect signatures last year that could be a problem?
exceller commented:
I’d be pissed if I lived in Virginia and the only choices they offer on the ballot are Romney and Paul. this is nothing but politics at work. it should be a simple matter of filling out some forms and paying a fee to get on the ballot.
workingclass artist commented:
@#19
There is no write in allowed in VA. The state legislature would have to amend the law.
workingclass artist commented:
@#17
I think that Perry will contest for those reasons.
Steve White commented:
For #3 Helen: Virginia Atty General, Ken Cuccinelli may well be in the bag for Mr. Romney. However, #18 Seth illustrates the key problem: neither Mr. Gingrich nor Mr. Perry got organized.
It’s simple: 10K valid signatures with at least 400 in each of Virginia’s 11 congressional districts. It’s math. It’s simple. If you’re a national contender, you have a team in Virginia, and that team is CHARGED with getting their candidate on the ballot.
So, anybody ask the Gingrich team and the Perry team what in the heck they were doing in the weeks leading up to the filing deadline?
400 signatures in a Congressional district is NOT HARD. A small cadre of properly trained volunteers in each district could go door to door using voter registration and primary voting data to identify likely supporters (I’ve used such lists) and get the signatures in a week or two. Get a thousand in each district and there’s your 10K.
There isn’t anything nefarious going on in the Attorney General’s office. Mr. Cuccinelli can’t (and doesn’t need to) interfere if the signatures aren’t even produced in the first place.
So again: what were the Gingrich and Perry teams doing?
bg commented:
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no no no, there are no such realities as the NWO or the Taliban,
& Hamas & Hezbollah are as misunderstood as La Raza & M16..
you Americans, what is wrong with you..
keep sticking out your hands to help calm the seas & heal
the world & before you know it, your arms will be missing..
/double intendre sarc/
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Redwine commented:
A total setup.
Steve White commented:
One more point: it’s perfectly legal to collect signatures near a polling station as long as you stand at the legally-mandated distance away from the poll.
Where I live (Illinois) that distance is 100 feet. I didn’t look up the rules for Virginia but I’ll bet a donut that the Romney and Paul campaigns did.
Further, collecting signatures for a FUTURE election may not violate any rules about electioneering at a poll. I’m not a lawyer but I’ll bet another donut that the Romney and Paul campaigns talked to theirs.
People here can be upset all they want, but one of the main requirements for being President is that you have to run for the job, and that means you have to run a proper campaign and jump all the legal and procedural hurdles. Mr. Romney is doing that. Mr. Gingrich and Mr. Perry are not.
bg commented:
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simple:
Republicans always lose signatures..
Democrats always find them..
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aprilnovember811 commented:
bg,
Very nice, you’re so right.
bg commented:
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Cain could beat Barry = off with his head!!
Newt can beat Barry = off with his head!!
albeit he’s been trailing miserably for weeks, i’m betting
on a few Democratic finds for “the fix is in” for Perry..
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Steve White commented:
One more point: perhaps the only thing Barack Obama has going for him in this election is his campaign. He’s been a miserable failure at everything concerning leadership and governance, but he does have a ruthless, well-organized campaign team. That’s by design.
Now then: if the Perry and Gingrich campaigns can’t even get 10K valid signatures in a Republican friendly state, what makes anyone think that these two candidates will stand up to Obama in the fall?
History lesson: take a look at how Barack Obama won his first state senate campaign — ballot petition shenanigans. Take a look at how he won his US Senate campaign — election shenanigans to drive the nominated Pub candidate off the ballot.
Now ask yourself if you really, really think that Obama, and Mr. Axelrod, Mr. Plouffe, and Ms. Jarrett, would be above election shenanigans this time to knock out the Pub candidate in the fall. As they say in Chicago, “politics ain’t beanbag.”
I understand that a lot of conservatives don’t like Mr. Romney. But from what I’ve seen so far, he’s the only major Pub candidate who understands how to run a campaign. For better or worse, he’s the one who is demonstrating the political skills and competence needed to remove Mr. Obama from the White House. I’m not sure yet if he can play hardball against Mr. Obama. But he’s the only one of the Pubs so far who seems to get how to play the game.
Multitude commented:
A warning to the GOP establishment from Iowa:
As long as you continue to push the unelectable sequal of “McCain II” through your promotion of Romney, you risk a catastrophic breakdown, either through a third party rise or the internal rise of Ron Paul.
I’m an undecided in Iowa and will be leading participation at our upcoming caucus. Many of us in our small community’s business and professional circles have looked at Bachmann, Perry, Cain, and Huntsman. Gingrich is widely seen as a consistent pro-defense big government Democrat and Romney is seen as an inconsistent “I’ll push whatever my big money backers are telling me to push and can flip flop for a price” political prostitute, complete with the prep school looks that big money tends to look for in a political escort.
We’ve supported candidates that have principals and want small government, recognizing (strangely in unison with OWS protests) that big special interests on both sides of the political party structure are to blame for almost all the nation’s ills. Your efforts to cut off a compromise candidate between the tea party people’s movement and the fat cat RNC elites will doom you to a fate worse than Obama’s election.
The Republican Party faces existential risk with its manipulation of a second unelectable sellout candidate. I’m quite convinced, as are many others, that a Romney run will end the party’s relevance permanently.
zane commented:
#27, Steve White, the 100 foot rule is federal law, not state law. Also, as a certified poll watcher in previous elections, I was told that no one could stand 101 feet from the poll and shout out to voters. Even if a campaign worker is standing there, they are not allowed to deliberately draw attention to themselves for the purpose of supporting one candidate over another.
So…………..the question arrises; if those collecting signatures for Romney and Paul were, in fact, at polling stations, how did voters know that they were collecting signatures for those two candidates without shouting out to the voters, which by all regulations, is illegal?
Why were the rules changed for this Va primary that signatures would not be verified if the candidate got over 15K of them? This seems a bit odd. If the signatures for one candidate is going to be verified, the signatures for ALL candidates should be verified. I would think this would violate the “Equal protection” rule.
If you are really interested in how convoluted Virginia’s new rules are, read this:
http://www.ashby-law.com/better-things-to-do
There’s more to it than just getting a few volunteers to collect signatures for a candidate.
The Virginia rules (which some are new this year) disenfranchise those voters who would not vote for either candidate in the primary. This is only going to serve to have lower turn out in the Va primary because there are voters who would not chose either Romney or Paul. How are those voters now being represented? Bottom line, they’re not.
You can bet that if the Va Democrat Party had the same rules and Obama had a primary challenger this next election, and he was disqualified due to lack of the 10K, 400 rule, Eric Holder would be hauling Virginia into court pronto.
Mark Adams commented:
Looks like Gingrich and Perry supported will have to write in their choice.
bg commented:
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bottom line:
Ron Paul is an OWS protest vote..
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WarEagle82 commented:
Well, for the first time in a very long time I’ll have no reason to vote in the GOP primary in Virginia. What do you do when the candidates you want to support don’t care enough to actually let you vote for them?
Multitude commented:
bg/35: How do you arrive at that observation?
Most OWSers I know can’t stand him. I don’t know many Iowa tea party folks that can either. I can’t watch him speak without hearing Napoleon XIV’s “They’re Coming To Take Me Away” cranking up. Something in him is… unhinged.
I’m actually pretty disgusted with some friends at OWS who blindly embrace Obama and write off his seizure of powers as mere political charges. They won’t address the state of exception of drone strikes and unlimited killings of American citizens via secret executive decree. Suggesting they support Paul is naive; you need to go talk with some OWS’ers before you make that claim as they’d quickly tell you he’s likely seen as an evil pro-business libertarian capitalist.
Redwine commented:
It looks as if we’re being railroaded into a one-party system. We once had our inalienable rights in a great and exceptional constitutional republic. We are now heading for a dictatorship. Very sad. Very frightening.
donh commented:
This is ” say it ain’t so Joe ” Chicago black sox corruption. Incompetance does not suffice to explain this level of incompetance. This is more of the same old sabatogue by crooked lawyers hazed into the secret doctrine of taking a dive . The fascists know they need to erect a false front to insulate big evil govermment from being fired. These are Jerry Sandusky boy republicans.
workingclass artist commented:
@#38
We are headed to becoming a dead corpse for Europe to feed off.
Romney isn’t opposed to a Euro-Style VAT.
workingclass artist commented:
@#37
“bg/35: How do you arrive at that observation? ”
bg is certifiably insane….and has been proving that in comment threads for months.
Practical Jane commented:
The establishment (all of them) are afraid of another Reagan Revolution. They want Romney so and by God they plan to get him.
Costa Rica Anyone?
donh commented:
#42 Panama
bg commented:
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RCP December 24, 2011
National
27.8 Gingrich +3.4
24.4 Romney
12.6 Paul
6.6 Perry
6.4 Bachmann
3.6 Santorum
1.8 Huntsman
Iowa
23.8 Paul +3.5
20.3 Romney
17.3 Gingrich
11.8 Perry
8.3 Bachmann
7.0 Santorum
3.0 Huntsman
New Hampshire
33.8 Romney +13.0
20.8 Gingrich
16.5 Paul
11.8 Huntsman
3.8 Bachmann
2.5 Santorum
1.8 Perry
South Carolina
37.0 Gingrich +16.0
21.0 Romney
8.7 Paul
6.7 Bachmann
5.7 Perry
2.7 Santorum
3.3 Huntsman
Florida
43.0 Gingrich +18.2
24.8 Romney
6.3 Paul
4.0 Perry
4.0 Bachmann
2.8 Huntsman
1.8 Santorum
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bg commented:
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re: #44 December 24, 2011 at 11:07 am bg
left hand; right hand
public polling shows that Paul’s lead is built in
large part with the support of non-Republicans
more here..
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Patty commented:
Look, they fail at this of all things, how will they fail us.
I am so discouraged about the Darn thing. I have no candidate but I as we all want to beat Obama. This election just can’t become another joke.
Write in the name. Whatever. Our election process is amazing. Acorn, Black Panters have more rights.
Just Pathetic.
Multitude commented:
Unrelated related thought.. is Ace of Spades getting paid to promote Perry? It’s gotten creepy over there with all the closed-minded fundamentalist zealotry around “their candidate.” I hope they’re making a few dollars from it at least; those who dare ask questions that are conceived as critical are immediately accused of as being Democratic party workers.
bg commented:
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Multitude #37 December 24, 2011 at 10:44 am
re: [bg/35: How do you arrive at that observation? ]
how about Ron Paul Supports Occupy Wall Street coupled with public
polling shows that Paul’s lead is built in large part with the support of
non-Republicans.. not to mention Ron Paul supporters are well known for skewing polls for starters..
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#1AMERICAN commented:
If was a demo-turd there would have been enough illegals signed you can bet that
bg commented:
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!! Happy Christmas & Merry New Year !!
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Cargosquid commented:
I’m embarrassed by the candidates. This is shameful. I don’t blame the VA laws. Its the candidates responsibility to get on the ballot. Gingrich had big words about defeating Obama.
Apparently he couldn’t back up his words.
Perry…..so much for his “executive” abilities.
I will not be held even partially responsible for putting either Romney or Paul on the ticket so I am not voting for either candidate in the primary.
bg commented:
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ps re: #48 December 24, 2011 at 11:18 am bg
“They’ll all go back and vote for Obama,”
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Skip commented:
I smell a rat. I think the fix is in led by the RNC. They want Romney even though he will lose to Obama.
Can you folks imagine or understand that what Obama did during his first term was just fluff compared to what he will attempt if he receives a second term with nothing to lose?
If it’s not Newt…game over!
Multitude commented:
bg/48: That’s a legit point per Paul’s trying to reach out to OWS and claim to support them, but I don’t know any OWSers who find him interesting. At least, people who’ve been on the ground in Sacramento and New York.
Here’s something to mull over and be amused by… Zizek calls for an alliance between OWS and the Tea Party (he too understands that OWS’s desire to be loved by the imperial Obama and his totalitarian progressive movement is a walk toward disaster).
http://richardbrenneman.wordpress.com/2011/10/12/zizek-at-ows-tea-partiers-should-be-our-allies/
bg commented:
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December 24, 2011
Newt Gingrich attacks Virginia for keeping him off ballot
[The Gingrich campaign responded that "only a failed system" would
disqualify Gingrich and other candidates. It said Gingrich would pursue
an aggressive write-in campaign in Virginia.
"Voters deserve the right to vote for any top contender, especially
leading candidates," Gingrich campaign director Michael Krull said
in a statement.
"We will work with the Republican party of Virginia to pursue an
aggressive write-in campaign to make sure that all the voters of
Virginia are able to vote for the candidate of their choice," Krull
said.]
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bg commented:
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Multitude #54 December 24, 2011 at 11:40 am
re: [but I don’t know any OWSers who find him interesting.]
i do, unfortunately, some are relatives..
re: [Zizek calls for an alliance between OWS and the Tea Party]
hmm, didn’t Obama say they had a lot in common?? /s/
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avery commented:
Newt,have a proable here in GA. the “LEFT” democrait will be votng for “Romney” it came out friday on Al Gainey rabio show. Can someone tell me what :MACAQUE” mean.
bg commented:
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Skip #53 December 24, 2011 at 11:40 am
once Newt said he would Lincoln dog Barry (@ 21:00 mark) if
he refused “face to face” debates, Newt was nixed, go figure..
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Patty commented:
All the debates and all the the pundits forcing Romney down our throats. To think Paul and Romney are the two it comes down too.
OMG
Are we giving this to Obama?
Patty commented:
It boils down to: if this is how the candidates perform then they shouldn’t be a nominee. This is basic things that their campaign should have done.
So, maybe they don’t need to be president. Irresponsible and stupid.
One day closer to the establishment’s wish. Romney or OMG, Paul?
bg commented:
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Patty #59 December 24, 2011 at 12:08 pm
he takes it, we give it, what’s the difference??
isn’t it clear by now that this country
is not of nor for the people anymore??
the best weapon our enemies could ever have against US is
our denial, that goes for both foreign and domestic enemies,
of which we have an abundance of trickling down.. /s/
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bg commented:
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re: #45 December 24, 2011 at 11:07 am bg
“the Clinton surplus”
[Gingrich engineered the first Republican takeover of the House of
Representatives in 40 years — followed by the first balanced budget
in 40 years. The media called it “the Clinton surplus” but all spending
bills start in the House of Representatives, and Gingrich was Speaker
of the House.
Speaker Gingrich also produced some long overdue welfare reforms,
despite howls from liberals that the poor would be devastated. But
nobody makes that claim any more.]
more here & here..
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donh commented:
Vladimir Putin is picking your choices….Just like he picked Elena Kagan , grandaughter of a Lithuanian KGB master spy to sit on your Suprme Court.
Nanna commented:
They keep saying Glingrich is leading in VA. but yet doesn’t have 10,000 signatures to get him on the ballot? Hmmmm..what is wrong with this picture?
Nanna commented:
*Gingrich* I’m butter fingers.
donh commented:
Gingrich, Perry, even Bachmann are just in it to divide the anti Romney vote in service to the establishment . Its the only way they can bring Romney on top having only 29%… I mean 24 % …oops make that 20 % of the popular vote ….Then he picks Rudy Giuliani for VP , they guy who brought you pedophile victim Scott Brown to the Senate….and this becomes to face of your party…>>> http://youtu.be/iNahvGXVWl0
Conservative to the Core commented:
Virginia is Gingrich’s home state!
Pa
the
tic.
Estragon commented:
The ONLY rule change was not verifying if over 15K submitted (10K required). All candidates were told this, you conspiracy nuts.
Other than that, these have always been the rules in Virginia going back before they even HAD a viable Republican Party. The election folks tell you from the start: get 15-20,000 total and 600-800 from each district (10K/400 valid req’d) because every signature is verified. Any mistake disqualifies a signature, and you would be surprised how many people sign petitions who aren’t even registered to vote.
No conspiracy here, just a bunch of whiny losers whose candidates are stupid, incompetent, and unprepared.
Of course, Gingrich and Cain had no effort going because they were only running to promote their books and speaking fees in the first place, and never expected to still be in the race by the time Virginia rolled around.
Conservative to the Core commented:
It gets worse. Virginia has open primaries. Operation Chaos II here we come.
zane commented:
Estragon, the rule to NOT verify signatures for candidates that solicited over 15,000 signatures was made JUST LAST MONTH.
Do you not have a problem with that?
I suggest you read this link:
http://www.ashby-law.com/better-things-to-do
and come back to us better informed.
Where is Eric Holder on this? Isn’t he the champion of the disenfranchised voter? How many Virginia primary voters have just been disenfranchised?
dt commented:
Feedback please.
Is it safe to say the RNC has been taken over?
We haven’t had a conservative type in the WH since Reagan, I am correct?
I mean since old man Bush every election has been hold your nose type voting?
Are we seeing a repeat of 2008?
Does anyone believe Romney is being chosen so he can actually lose to obama?
In the 2008 race does anyone remember McCain’s acceptance speech when he said while in the POW camp he was broken? What possible effect could that have on a man running for highest office?
And a very hard question. Does anyone believe at this point the election process is so corrupt that it actually does not work anymore? Or ever will from this point forward?
bg commented:
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A December 22 Quinnipiac poll for Virginia had Gingrich ahead with
30 percent of the vote, compared with 25 percent for Romney and 9
percent for Paul. Virginia is one of 11 states holding a primary or caucus on March 6.
Gingrich Wins Tea Party Straw Poll
[The poll, taken among 23,000 Tea Party enthusiasts organized by the
Tea Party Patriots, one of the nation’s biggest Tea Party organizations,
had Gingrich winning with with 31 percent of their vote, registered in a
conference call on Sunday night.]
more here..
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bg commented:
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why are they comparing winner Gingrich to loser Perry??
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bg commented:
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dt #71 December 24, 2011 at 2:12 pm
re: [Feedback please.
Is it safe to say the RNC has been taken over?]
oh yeah, been saying that since 2004, when
i noticed both Dems & Reps were anti-Bush..
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Blacque Jacques Shellacque commented:
How does this happen?
I’d say it’s mainly a failure of campaign staffers. If either candidate is smart, they’ll be hiring new ones shortly.
zane commented:
bg, news flash!!!
There are NO winners or losers at this point. But every candidate that wants to run for office should have the right to do so.
Funny how you Palinistas jump from candidate to candidate, smearing Rick Perry as you go. Why don’t you become a nice person and just support your chosen candidate without trying to destroy the others? Or is that beyond you?
bg commented:
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zane #77 December 24, 2011 at 3:06 pm
just stating the obvious facts..
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zane commented:
Black Jacks Shellacque, what you fail to acknowledge is that it is not the candidates that are the loser in the shenigans going on in Virginia, it is the voters that are the losers.
Perhaps you can explain to me why Romney and Paul were allowed to have their campaign staffs soliciting signatures at polling places when that is a violation of federal law?
zane commented:
bg, not ONE primary has been held yet. What you call “the obvious” is simply your opinion, not a fact. No one has won even one primary yet, so NO, there are no winners or losers yet.
But hey, continue to be a disagreeable person, if you wish.
Multitude commented:
dt/71:
>Does anyone believe Romney is being chosen so he can actually lose to obama?
Without question, the RNC embraces slave mentality. Just like the large number blacks who cannot leave the progressive plantation, awaiting the miserable but “free” life of government handouts and subsequently condemn their generations to a perpetual status of plight (compared to Hispanic, Vietnamese, Korean and other immigrants that have moved in and quickly up), the Republican party has become comfortable being followers.
Spend any time with Boehner or just listen to him and observe his mannerisms: the man is a sitzpinkler. His wife requires him to pee sitting down so that he not exemplify any alpha male characteristics. They’re a broken party, a dog that will never hunt and worse, looks the other way when the wolf comes to prey so that it may get the leftovers from the kill.
This party will suffer one of two fates: either the tea party eradicates the predator-enabling party bureaucrats and its coalition of slave-mentality political officials, or it will collapse (most likely following their intended Romney loss). They’re the bloated, tired, pedigreed Prussian military used to following no longer viable rules of civil conflict and gentlemanly warfare (Rule #1. No shooting officers. Rule #2. No battles before breakfast! Rule #3. No battles in inconvenient places. etc.).
The Progressives have their Napoleon, and the Tea Party represents a channeling of the revolutionary potential of an abused, taxed-to-death middle class. Either the Republicans toss out the weak old guard and fight with us, or it will collapse following 2012.
reliapundit commented:
wow: are most of u guys really paranoid nutcases who think the rnc/establishment is behind this?!
bizarre.
disappointing.
sickening.
Conservative to the Core commented:
The primary was a sham. At least the truth came out early.
S. Wolf commented:
reliapundit #10
Romney is unelectable, get a clue.. individualmandatepundit.
S. Wolf commented:
reliapundit #82
‘bizarre.
disappointing.
sickening.’
That’s you to a T.
S. Wolf commented:
zane #80
bg’s opinion is as good as fact.
bg commented:
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behind the scene screen
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bg commented:
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S. Wolf #86 December 24, 2011 at 4:15 pm
seriously though, you’ve no clue how
much i hope and pray i am WRONG!!
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Redwine commented:
Whoever is doing it, we’re escalating from nudge to shove to a one-party system.
S. Wolf commented:
bg #88
Oh I have a clue. All the things you’ve posted I know you wish were untrue but they are true, or at least I have not found them untrue and I look up stuff too, as others do. Hussein does not want opposition in the general election, he would prefer to run unopposed a la Chavez, Castro but he must for now allow a token opponent.. who better than Romney, the same who inspired Obamacare, whose father was born in Mexico so he is not natural born and who has hidden his records a la Obama? Then too Hussein put on the SC a granddaughter of a KGB spy, has given the Chinese access to U.S. nuclear facilities, has placed Muslim Brotherhood in DHS and the CIA, all the while spending a la Cloward-Piven.. Oh it is all true, the U.S. is under attack by the evil empire from within.. Merry Christmas y’all.
RedBeard commented:
The inability of Perry and Gingrich to get a lousy 10,000 signatures statewide is astounding, really. Severe campaign staff incompetence is the only logical explanation.
The idea that this is some grand conspiracy by the RNC to push Romney rings rather hollow. For that to be true, it would mean that Perry and Gingrich and all their staffers are in on the plan. That makes no sense at all. Also, the conspiracy theory gives far too much credit to the doofusses who run the RNC these days. Those guys are lucky to get their shoes on the right feet in the morning. Engineering a vast conspiracy is far above their level of competence.
bg commented:
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in the ORIGINAL report only Perry didn’t
have over 10K, then they both didn’t..
where did the ORIGINAL report
link that GO had posted go??
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bg commented:
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re: #92 December 24, 2011 at 5:59 pmbg
actually it stated both had more than 10k, but only Gingrich totals were
being counted.. anyways, the title was something about three being a
crowd..
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reliapundit commented:
thanks redbeard for proving that there are at least 2 sane people on this thread. including me.
as you prove, the paranoid conspiracy explanation is idiotic.
that so many who read hoft feel that way is disheartening.
have so many on the right really become as wacky as the truthers!?!
it seems so.
sigh.
bg commented:
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re: #55 December 24, 2011 at 11:41 am bg
wuh-oh, They will have to get VERY aggressive: Under Virginia law
(§ 24.2-529), write-in votes are not allowed on ballots in primary elections.
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bg commented:
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we’re crazy conspiracy theorists, really??
..READ THEIR LIPS..
TOP GOP Official: We Know Who it is Who Will be Our Nominee
[“I think tomorrow, we’ll be contacting one another and probably put something together with Romney… And I would say that the race is now Romney and Obama. Quite frankly, the enthusiasm wasn’t there at the outset. He’s less conservative than a lot of us would like. However, our first and foremost goal is to defeat Obama. And we do believe Romney, in terms of independents, will be a strong candidate. We will coalesce behind him now… the time has come to get behind him… Tomorrow I’ll be on the phone all day. Quite frankly, it’ll be easier, because now we know who it is who will be our nominee. So we will pull our Rolodexes out and get to work.”]
hah, they didn’t count on Perry falling or Cain
& Gingrich rising, but they’re fixing that too..
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reliapundit commented:
bg u r certifiable.
btw, visit my blog if you doubt my conservativeness.
S. Wolf commented:
reliapundit #92
Naw.. you’re the dinky dau coo coo certifiable Romneybot.. bought and paid for by Mr. Money Bags Mittens Romney, eh? Well, you wouldn’t be the first to lose your love of country for a little jingling gelt in your pocket.. haha wink wink.
S. Wolf commented:
Oopsie #98
Merry Christmas y’all
bg commented:
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reliapundit #98 December 24, 2011 at 6:48 pm
you sure about that??
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bg commented:
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thanks S. Wolf
and a Blessed Happy Holy Day to You & All..
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bg commented:
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reliapundit #98 December 24, 2011 at 6:48 pm
btw, i’m not interested in “conservative”..
i’m interested in “truths”..
and i am quite familiar with your blog, well, not of late, but years
ago was a frequent visitor, and if i recall correctly, you seemed to
have had a few conspiracy theory’s of your own off and on..
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kittyhumphrey commented:
He is running for president – he should have known the rules in Virginia where he lives. He should have spent the last several weeks getting signatures instead of spending his time signing books and going to his wife’s concerts. Remember he said “I will be the nominee”. Perhaps he thought he was too good to get signatures. It is past Newt’s time – too bombastic, too arrogant, too cocky – who wants a president like him.
Rose commented:
Something SMARMY in the GOP comes walking.
Time to bury the GOP and be done with it. Who needs Dim and Dim Lyte.
donh commented:
The dunce cap goes to people who think this was just routine staff incompetance. These candidate are absolutely ruthless. They can dig up 20 year old editorials by
Ron Paul, Ni**er Head rocks on Perry’s hunting ground, Cain’s outcall escorts from 13 years ago , but they can’t round up a few signatures to qualify for a ballot… They have all taken a dive in VA to toss those delegates to Romney….making up the delegates Romney would have won in MI but lost since MI is being punished for moving primary date. Gingrich surged from the Cain execution and he is now saying and doing everything he can to drive those votes over to Romney. He only wants to be at 14%. Perry at 11% so Romney gets in with his 20% . That will tenure Gingrich’s cred with the liberal arts University professors handing out speeking fees for the rest of his life while you and your children fall deeper into slavery.
Conservative to the Core commented:
10,000 signatures isn’t really much to ask for. You have to have some qualification.
Peggy commented:
Thanks # 98 reliapundit
bg suffers from “delusions of grandeur” and woe unto him/her that trys to explain to her that her grandeur is all imagined.
Gary commented:
To all the cries of conspiracy
Give me a break! Va also elected McDonnell
It’s a state divided between libs in the north and conservatives in the south
It was gingrich’s job to get on the ballot
He failed to meet the qualifications that were known in advance
Who stopped him from getting the signatures?
Donh I disagree with your theory
Gingrich has too much ego for that to be the case
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