guest post by Mike LaRoche
I can’t say I’m surprised by any of this, given the elitist, anti-American proclivities of many members of the entertainment industry. On Friday, December 9, 2011, two dozen Pearl Harbor veterans gathered at the Punchbowl Crater in Honolulu, home to the National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific, to honor the fallen heroes of the Battle of Pearl Harbor. While the ceremony was underway, a nearby CBS production crew – filming a scene for an upcoming episode of “Hawaii Five-O” – walked over graves and paid no heed to the national anthem or any other aspect of the ceremony. Once the event concluded, things only got worse. Writes Steffan Tubbs of Denver’s Newsradio 850 KOA:
Three hundred yards away and clearly visible to them, no one on the CBS production stopped for the anthem or any part of our program. This included the ending of our presentation – Taps and the moment of silence. I was perturbed, but because our veterans faced me, they couldn’t see the disrespect. The ceremony ended and several men hopped on golf carts to visit their fallen comrades buried in other parts of the cemetery.
I decided to take a closer look at the production area from the public thoroughfare and walked closer to see catering trucks, grips, associate directors, production assistants, lighting workers, countless minions and the lead director – a Hollywood-looking middle-aged man wearing a black “AD/HD” t-shirt, a play off the rock band “AC/DC.” I stopped well behind the cameras and out of view when a local production assistant politely told me to keep moving. I was not happy and told her we had WWII vets who would likely be in the area. I was told, “Sorry, sir. We rented this part of the cemetery today.” My blood started to boil, but I remained calm and moved on. As I stood behind the tent, the director yelled at everyone to: “Get out of the line of sight! If you don’t belong here, clear out!”
I made sure to go where I was basically invisible, 40 yards from the nearest camera when the director heatedly walked to me. He was not happy.
“Can you please move?” he said sternly.
“OK,” I said. “Where would you like me to go? I have Pearl survivors who are here visiting their fallen comrades at a public cemetery.”
He couldn’t have cared less and told me that if we stood behind a tent, that would be fine. He walked away completely frustrated and yelled at a local assistant: “I am doing YOUR job! You wanna come back here again? Do your job!” I felt sorry for her. It wasn’t her fault a group of vets actually came back for a real reason to this cemetery.
Read the whole thing. “Disgraceful” does not begin to describe this scenario: a group of egotistical, self-centered brats who virtually spit on the very men who risked their lives to preserve their freedom. Is it any wonder that so many Americans despise Hollywood?
(h/t Protein Wisdom and Big Hollywood)
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Published May 23, 2012 at 4:57 am - 56 Comments
HH commented:
I saw part of one episode of that show and never watched it again. It is not even close to what the old show was so I ignored it. Hard to boycott a show I already don’t watch, but I will make sure to comment about this to anyone who does watch such drivel. Class tells and those idiots are missing the first two letters of that word.
el polacko commented:
the question is: who the heck rented them part of the cemetery ?!? and on the anniversary of pearl harbor, no less ! they should be fired.
InOhio commented:
I think the show sucks anyway. Hopefully it will die off soon. If I did watch it, which I don’t, I wouldn’t anymore.
Texas_Treeroach commented:
Hollywood needs to pay.
Do you have the guts to make them pay ??????
(Or do you have to have your movie-time?)
Tyranny's Bain commented:
What a bunch of self-important ingrates.
These veterans changed history, freed millions, protected the United States of America against tyranny, and many made the ultimate sacrifice.
What exactly is this tv production contributing in comparison? How can anyone be so arrogant and callous towards these heroes?
Heads should roll at CBS!
Blacque Jacques Shellacque commented:
Is it any wonder that so many Americans despise Hollywood?
Probably not for this particular reason, although the behavior of this particular crew comes as no surprise at all.
Patty commented:
We rented this part of the cemetery today.” My blood started to boil, but I remained calm and moved on.
_____________
Well, first of all, the owners of the cometary must be more interested in making money, I suppose. Sad, I do believe that money and time constraints are the main reason for the rudeness, needless to say this day will go down in infamy. Yes, it killed many and we never wanted to see this happen ever again. It did on 9/11. Many on that day disrespect this horrible day, also.
Seems Micheal Moore and so many others and the only consolation for all of this would be to teach our children where their priorities lie. It is unconscionable, disrespectful and someone made a terrible judgment call. On this day of all days.
God Bless all the men and women in our military.
Molon Labe commented:
But is this behavior that unusual? Have you seen the way universities treat veterans? Or how the faculties regard them.
Patty commented:
BTW, I do need to mention, my Brother’s child died last week. This story is sad and shows just how owners of Cemeteries are ruthless and uncaring. Some that is. 20 years ago, his one of his twin babies died and he decided to purchase 3 plots. One for baby and the other two would be theirs. This took a while to pay for but it was paid in full a few years ago.
Well, as time past up until last week, seemed new owners had purchased cemetery, the records of my brother’s purchase weren’t found. He was told you need to pay up, he was livid, said it was all paid for, the owner said No, and you are going to pay the 2011 rates now.
Long story short, receipts. receipts, thank God, and now, between the death of his child and the anger over a plot, I would say in the case of the vets vs. Hawaii 5-0 seems that the Cemetery has some real explaining to do. This sort of disrespect must happen a lot.
USMCdaughter1 commented:
While the behavoir seems to be the stupidity of the day, it makes me ill. This kind of disrespect is beyond contempt, regardless of who does it, Hollyweird or the kid who takes a dump on our flag.
Glad I never watched the show – they guaranteed I never will.
Patty commented:
Women who stand in prayer for the families of those who have died in the wars. Even they were told at ceremonies that they couldn’t pray with parents. Seems with the fight and the courage of protesters these women, with do respect from family, continue to pray and talk to families. They just want to console the family on their loss.
People are evil, never realized just how evil but the great people, the good ones that is live on and are the majority.
I hope I am right.
Sally commented:
Outrageous and incomprehensible.
This was a demonstration of “Group think” at its finest. The ignorant, pompous and vile actions of the crew members apparently didn’t even trigger one woman or man to rein in the others.
Carbon Pootprint commented:
They brought back Hawaii Five-O? When? Why? I’m sure it sucks like everything else they’ve tried to redo.
NeoKong commented:
I didn’t know you could rent a cemetery.
RickS commented:
I will never watch that worthless program, but I am enjoying the old H5O on Netflix.
P. Aaron commented:
Don’t watch the show. Just eye candy for youngin’s…maybe they hire a script writer?
donh commented:
Renting a cemetary to disturb the peaceful rest of those who died to get in. Its this kind of behavior that makes Woody Allen’s Hell scene so believable. Hollywood hedonists are fools of a pitiful fate…. http://youtu.be/MnZXsv_FGwE
fightinggranny commented:
Arrogance, I’m sick of it from the President and Hollywood…the alphabet soup of channels (which I do not view anyway). May they also die a miserable death. I support the “decent” movies put out, when I can find them, then I need to check that none of the “stars” whom I detest are in a movie. I’ve seen one in the last 3 years.
UpChuck.Liberals commented:
It’s been removed from my DVR and I’m sending a letter to CBS. Not that the Communist Broadcasting Socialists care. As a Vet this is unacceptable.
Lan Astaslem commented:
I do side with the production team. December ninth, they were simply trying to film a scene at an historic location. They had USG permission to do what they did when they did it. The vets weren’t distressed. They wanted to interact with the cast and crew. The DJ, Steffan Tubbs, was the only one really upset about people who wanted nothing to do with him concerning something that was none of his business; and he was shameless trying to wind up the elderly gentlemen over nothing.
UpChuck.Liberals commented:
For those that wish to tell CBS what you think of this….http://www.cbs.com/info/user_services/fb_global_form.php
Rose commented:
I am sorry – but I have to say it – Let it come back on their own heads – multiplied exponentially, and when it does, let them say, “OH, THIS is what I did to THEM!”
“If it doesn’t count when I do it to someone else, then it doesn’t count when someone else does it back to me again.”
Lan Astaslem commented:
And for those who wish to tell KOA management that DJ Steffan Tubbs is a envious busybody stuck in radio…http://www.850koa.com/pages/contact.html
Rose commented:
http://www.cbs.com/info/user_services/fb_global_form.php
gus commented:
Lan, get your head out of your ass. Ok??
They were using the CEMETERY because of what it stands for. But they weren’t respecting what it stands for. You’re a fvcking imbecile Lan.
Rose commented:
#20 – That is ignert. Really pure.
psawyer commented:
#18
DITTO!
Skinner commented:
Steffan Tubbs was there in his capacity as National Spokesman for The Greatest Generation Foundation
http://www.tggf.us
TGGF takes WWII vets back to their battlefields.
If you would like to channel your anger then please take a moment to visit their website and donate to this worthy foundation.
BTW – this was the last, the FINAL, and in some cases the ONLY return visit to Pearl Harbor for these veterans of the attack.
Thank you for reporting this outrage.
Please help TGGF ensure the legacy of these men lives on.
.
Ariel commented:
This was a demonstration of “Group think” at its finest. The ignorant, pompous and vile actions of the crew members apparently didn’t even trigger one woman or man to rein in the others. Sally, #12 December 13, 2011 at 8:13 pm
THIS!
Sadly, I doubt the veterans memorial service registered a blip on the production crew’s collective emotional radar screen. The veterans paying homage to their fallen loved ones were deemed to be an inconvenience, much like the weather. The vets little ceremony was getting in the way of an important shooting schedule, “important” because everything Hollywood does is IMPORTANT, even a fictional crime drama on a dinosaur network.
TV and movie crews create a world of make believe. The set is that world, and they are comfortable with it, that is, until elements of the real world start intruding into the carefully constructed and maintained fantasy. So when the real actors in this mortal play started to transgress into the sanctity of the make believe set, well we just can’t have that. CUT!
Certainly not all TV or movie crews are this insensitive, but this crew deserves special approbation. When they saw the veterans arriving for the memorial service, they should have stopped their filming and not resumed until it was over. They should have also asked if there was anything they could do to help with the elderly, who were there to pay tribute to the friends and relatives they had lost. Instead they showed the callousness and disrespect we’ve come to expect from the entertainment industry.
May the show’s ratings plummet leading to its cancellation, and may its cast and crew be disbanded and forced to find other work.
StrangernFiction commented:
Is it any wonder that so many Americans despise Hollywood?
Not nearly enough.
Lan Astaslem commented:
Rose: spelling is fundamental.
Gus: if you have any independent knowledge of profane or disrespectful acts at the Punchbowl by the Hawaii 5-0 cast and crew, take your complaint to the USG. But you can’t because you don’t.
Molon Labe commented:
#31
Lan
Thinking is fundamental. Respect is fundamental. Reason is fundamental You display none of these traits.
Tell you what skippy I think veterans will take their views direct to CBS. And you can whine and continue being the wanker you are.
So off you go tosser.
Multitude commented:
We’re losing when we get worked up on matters like this. Hollywood elites (as are other highly discursively exclusive homogenous cultures) have a tightly constructed worldview that excludes a fundamental awareness of normative practices such as taking one’s cap off for the national anthem, quietly paying attention and facing the flag, and showing other forms of deference to something greater than themselves.
In their society, they are the nation, flag and symbol for attention.
None of this commentary is intended to be metaphoric; they almost certainly paid no heed to what at most would be regarded as a “strange goings on of the tourist rubes and hicks amongst them,” thought it would probably be just as strange as the fact that the tourists were not fawning over the celebrities for a few minutes while performing some strange middle class ritual.
We will never register these concerns in their worldview: it precludes cognition. It isn’t that they do not care; they do not know. Deference to some nation-state and its silly traditions is literally unthinkable to these globe-hopping, jet-setting, post-tradition amoralists. It’s for this reason that they will also continue to fully support Obama — not blindly or “against reason,” as many Conservative pundits allege, but actually fully within the normative practice and “reason” of their own society.
The problem the middle class really must face is not one of persuasion of these elites. They do not think your way at all. It is of a more pragmatic issue: what are you going to do about the fact that the global elites don’t even see the world your way, and mock the silly rituals of faith, honesty, work ethic, savings, investment, merit compensation, educational advancement, family, actual performed respect for others (not Democratic Party respect-via-using someone elses property stolen via taxation, or celebrity Bonoistic (U-2) respect-via-telethon appeals for the rubes money while enriching one’s self in the process).
They do not recognize the middle class way and will subsequently never care of its criticisms.
gus commented:
Lan Assteslam, is typical of PUBLIC SCHOOL LIBTARDS. He’s an idiot.
brad Jarman commented:
The actual show is very respectful of the us military.
Ella commented:
As far as I know Zippy’s grandfather is buried there. Stanley Dunham. Were they dancing on his grave and if so, did Zippy care?
Patty commented:
ot
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Witch commented:
I quit watching TV years ago, theaters as well except for a very few select movies, second hand DVD’s are cheap and easy to come by or borrow, and don’t enrich the wrong people.
so Hollywierdos and their ilk can bite my broomstick!
Rose commented:
Lan Astaslem – surprised – SO NOT – that you don’t appreciate that if SPELLING IS FUNDAMENTAL, it is even more so for special Southern inflections and connotations.
So figgers you didn’t git it right.
Jamessir Bensonmum commented:
It’s just contempt. You’d think we’d be used to it by now especially the older generations. I’m sorry Steffan Tubbs, the person who was being civil & polite to the jerkoff TV show crew, wasn’t rude and aggressive. I don’t watch much prime time TV these days anyway. Here’s one more show I won’t bother to check out.
Andreas K. commented:
300 yards away. Almost 275 meters. Oh the humanity.
Little info. In the optics of a standard issue STG77 (the type issued to our draftees, NCOs and officers have different optics) the center circle is large enough to encircle a 180 cm tall man at 300 meters. That’s roughly the distance we’re talking about here. At 275 meters his head and feet would stick out a little.
Now we’re getting our panties in a twist because someone at that distance didn’t pay attention to the national anthem? Really?
You know… what the US is not a more conservative Republican party, just like the US doesn’t need more “progressivism” from the Democrats.
What the US needs is a third party. The Reasonable Party.
Cause there’s zero reason among the conservatives, just like there’s none among the progressives.
BigAlSouth commented:
“Rented the cemetery?” My butt.
The vet should have told the director he wasn’t moving and he could call a cop if he wanted to.
Were it not for the WWII Vets, they would be filming in Japanese with English subtitles.
Jonnie A. commented:
This comes as no surprise . The leftist movie industry elite, most media today and the university elite are basically the same and are cut from the same bolt of cloth . All of them never worked an honest day in their lives, never did any hard work, yet they get to tell others how to run their lives and how ‘ this country is supposed to be viewed’. And Washington is in bed with both groups. We are being told what is ‘America’ by all of these groups . This event should have been respected and the people , veterans should have been revered for what they did for our country. Sounds like Liberals here through and through showing their colors.
Holder's AK-47 and a big pile of cash - missing commented:
If you ever watched the show, you’d know it was produced and directed by idiots.
Atlanta Media Guy commented:
CBS and Viacom should apologize immediately, then they should give the Vets a million dollars as well as time during the episode apologizing for defacing and disrespecting a cemetery honoring America’s fallen heroes.
Get your cards a letters addressed to Julie Chen’s husband, President of CBS Inc. His name is Leslie Moonves. The CBS affiliate in Hawaii should get your calls too. As long as we let this slide by the destruction of America will continue.
CBS might be the most watched network but they are also VIACOM, home of MTV and the other vile spilling producers of worthless TV.
jd commented:
you missed your chance.
should have said you were “occupying”.
bg commented:
++
Pearl Harbor survivors honored
[“Dad never told us the story like he was a hero, just that he was doing
his duty,” son John Puccio said at the luncheon. “He might not think he’s
a hero but he’s our hero.”]
It Has Always Been The Soldier
It is the soldier,
not the President who gives US Democracy.
It is the soldier,
not the Congress who takes Care of US.
It is the soldier,
not the Reporter who has given us Freedom of Press.
It is the soldier,
not the Poet who has given us Freedom of Speech.
It is the soldier,
not the campus [community] Organizer who
has given us the Freedom to Demonstrate.
It is the soldier,
who salutes the flag;
who serves beneath the flag,
and whose coffin is draped by the flag,
that allows the protester to burn the flag.
~ Father Dennis O’Brien, US Marine Corp. Chaplain
God Bless America!
God Bless Soldiers everywhere for putting THEIR
lives on the line to protect us ALL from terrorism!
==
oldguy commented:
I would bet my bottom dollar a president Newt would have done something about this. Does anyone doubt this?
bg commented:
++
double whammy, Meesh & Floods..
Hawaii is all wet..
==
bg commented:
++
December 14, 2011
CBS Issues Apology for Hawaii Five-O Crew
Actions During World War II Commemoration
==
bg commented:
++
flashback re: VIACOM ET AL
October 1, 2004
Partisan Connections of Rathergate
[After all, Sumner Redstone, chairman and CEO of CBS parent company
Viacom, is a major Democratic Party contributor. Redstone contributed
to John Kerry for president. He has also contributed to Senators Ted
Kennedy, Tom Daschle, and Patrick Leahy, and Al Gore for president in
2000.]
==
MAnderson commented:
I hate Hollywood and all of it’s arrogant, little, parasitical spongers.
Airman commented:
It is time to take action; write to CBS, tell them to fire the people involved in this disrespectul act, and of course, let them know you will never watch the show again. Hollywood is full of leftists and marxists who hate America, they hate the troops, and have no respect for our veterans. Fire them all, by making sure they get no advertising support, and therefore no money.
Stoshio commented:
I would have been hard-pressed not to have punched that director in the nose. Makes me extremely angry!
Alex commented:
My late grandpa, WW2 vet, would remain polite too. I would not. I would end up arrested for battery.
Chris J. commented:
Okay, I came to this post through an outside link, so maybe I’m not familiar with the conventions around here. But it seems to me that Lan and Andreas are the only people posting reasonable things here. In fact, it seems that they’re the only ones who actually paid attention to the details of the article.
We’re talking about a situation where the TV crew was 300 yards away from the ceremony. Nearly a thousand feet, nearly a fifth of a mile. A situation where the actual veterans attending are explicitly described as not being able to see the “offense,” and where if any did see they apparently didn’t mind, but went on about their business. A situation where even after the ceremony the only person who approached the TV crew to complain was not himself a vet, but the DJ from Denver who wrote the whole thing up. A situation where the only people in the TV crew who interacted with him, by his own description, addressed him reasonably politely with a “sorry, sir” and a “could you please move.”
In other words, by any reasonable standard, *not a big deal.*
Yet posters here are getting worked up about all sorts of sweeping generalizations and exaggerations. It’s all about the “Hollywood elites” (even though the TV crew is described as including caterers, grips, production assistants, lighting workers, and “minions”—IOW, plenty of working class people, many of whom were probably local)… and “liberals” (even though we know nothing whatsoever about the politics of anyone producing the show)… and even university faculties (???)… and this incredibly minor post-ceremony contretemps involving exactly one guy is being called “callous” and “unconscionable” and “arrogant” and “vile”… and even after CBS execs have issued an official public apology posters here are still going on in this vein!
There are real problems in the world, people, worth getting worked up about. This is not one of them.
What’s more, even if there were a genuine offense involved… even if what bothers you is the mere fact of the cemetery being rented out to a TV crew… you’re all laying blame on the wrong targets. You’re filtering things through a set of preconceptions that just doesn’t apply. If anyone or anything is to blame, how about market capitalism—the ruthless dictates of an economy where any and every means of making money is legitimate to pursue, where the cemetery and the TV crew are each just serving their own bottom line, and where the “time is money” ethos of TV production would prevent anyone involved from taking time to observe the ceremony even if they wanted to? The problem here, if one exists at all, isn’t motivated by ideology or culture… it’s motivated by the almighty dollar.