Newt Gingrich was on with Sean Hannity tonigfht. It sounded like he just called the Paul Ryan Plan “rightwing social engineering” again.

Newt should probably just drop this topic for a couple of months.

Sean Hannity: What you said about Paul Ryan and criticized his Medicare plan and “right-wing social engineering?”

Newt Gingrich: Well look it was a technical mistake but what I said was true. I was asked a question, “Should Republicans impose a plan that is deeply unpopular. And, I said something that Hayek wrote about in The Road to Serfdom, rightwing social engineering is as dangerous as leftwing social engineering. I made a lot of my conservative friends mad at me. But, in fact, Hayek wrote this and he’s right. We have an obligation to explain to the country that any major reform that affects their lives until they decide they’re going to accept it… I was trying to say something very profound but I frankly backed off because it was too much noise to communicate.

 

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  1. TIA if anyone knows who is that gentleman right behind Hannity, on left side of the screen

  2. nutes is a liar. Which ever way the wind blows to line his pockets. Another big gov bastard.

    We are in trouble if this is it.

  3. What lies did he tell about his Freddie Mac retainer?

  4. Newt appears to be ignoring the first rule of holes: “Stop digging.”

  5. Newt is as stubborn as his demon twin brother Barney Frank. Note how Newt begins this clip by confessing his stupidity , a nice word for ideological corruption…Barney Frank is at least a shade smarter . He made the better decision to RETIRE. This country needs to go forward not backward to proven leadership failures. This election is winner take it all. We cannot ” take a chance on ME” …>> http://youtu.be/cjVcL5G472Y

  6. Is Newt trying his damnedest to get actual conservatives to NOT vote for him?

  7. Newt is correct, I don’t see anything wrong with his position and I doubt Paul Ryan does either. Newt doesn’t need to drop the topic, people need to pay attention to the adult conversation and not jump to take a few words out of context. Makes them look foolish and does not serve to further the discussion.

  8. Newt loves Newt. If you don’t see that, you’re an idiot. His come to Jesus Bullshi+ is nauseating.
    Hannity doesn’t see it.

  9. The self-love emanating from Newt is very reminiscent of what we have in the White House RIGHT NOW.

  10. As someone who consider himself s conservative as the next guy, I do not see any conservative heresy in Newt’s FULL answer.

  11. CT, do you come here often?? You’re pretty dumb, so I’m sure I would have noticed you before!!

  12. I agree with Newt’s premise that a majority of Americans need to be convinced of any plan and not have it rammed down our throats. What is wrong with that?

  13. I agree with you morons. CT/MERLE and BURMASHAVE. Newt says something so fvcking stupid that only a moron would excuse him. And you 3 fuktards pretend it wasn’t said.

    Good work!!! You 3 mental midgets deserve whatever you get.

  14. #14, Are you what passes for a thoughtful conservative these days? If so, we’re in trouble.

  15. ++

    Newt is a hypocrite

    like i said, Herman may be slow, but he gets it right, Newt may be quick
    but no one really listens to what he’s saying, just that says it well, and
    albeit the latter may be able to define problems, the former knows how
    to solve them..

    ==

  16. I have read the road to serfdom twice and he is [was] against government interventions no matter how well intentioned. If you look at any of our government programs you will find that once put in place, they get larger and get more costly. I will not provide examples when what is hard to find is any program that was allowed to die. Politicians think that they must do something when ever there is a problem, but it is never a problem for everybody unless our nation is attacked. It is a mostly a problem for a certain group and the solution is always to take money from one group to pay for a program that benefits his constituents at the expense of others. What works best is to let the market sort out the solution.

  17. ++

    “I believe that democracy demands that the religiously motivated
    translate their concerns into universal values,” Obama said. “Social
    justice and national security are both universal values, values that
    may originate for some in their religious beliefs, but are shared by
    us all.”

    ~ Barack Hussein Obama

    ”I am certain nothing has done so much to destroy the juridical
    safeguards of individual freedom as the striving after the mirage
    of social justice.”

    “I have come to feel strongly that the greatest service I can still render
    to my fellow men would be that I could make the speakers and writers
    among them thoroughly ashamed ever again to employ the term ’social
    justice’.”

    ~ Friedrich A. von Hayek

    scroll threads for more..

    ==

  18. i was VERY annoyed with gingrich when he initially called ryan’s plan social engineering and was a vocal critic of him.

    but as he explains himself here i have to say he’s not wrong.

    he did NOT call ryan’s plan it self social engineering. he called the forced implantation social engineering. he’s right.

    too bad the transparent hatred some have for the man prevents them from getting past the soundbite.

  19. ++

    Ecosse #19 November 30, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    i understood him as well. however

    leftist social engineering is what we have in place as i type, and it’s only
    going to get worse, whereas Ryans plan is more or less designed to try
    and rectify the damages leftist social engineering has caused :iow: they
    are no way ion an “equal” plain so to speak..

    [and if you listen to the Lincoln-Douglas debate they
    had you'd understand why i'm calling him a hypocrite]

    as far as what he stated being intelligent, imho, he made a moot point..

    ==

  20. Newt is almost too intelligent for the general public. You can socially engineer the public without their approval first.

    Anything that is change that big will involve more thought. Once, all the answers are given and the majority of the public are on board then an only then will it succeed.

    Just kind of do the opposite of Obama care and then you have it right.

  21. Newt’s massive Know-It-All arrogance is going to be his own downfall.

    The sooner, the better. ~

  22. ++

    re: Cain – Gingrich debate:

    “i don’t favor a mandatory premium support model”

    oh i dunno, maybe i’m the one riding
    on both ends of the same see saw..

    ==

  23. Not only did he call it right-wing social engineering, but he called us stupid by saying; ‘but I frankly backed off because it was too much noise to communicate.’ In other words, ‘my thoughts are too complex for the little people to understand.’

    Jackass!!!!

  24. I also have to say that he brings up Hayek because he is supposed to go talk with Glenn Beck, and Beck is known for bringing Hayek’s book back to popular status. He’s just warming up for Beck’s audience. Otherwise why would he really bring up Hayek? Usually he just frames his argument on healthcare around Romney or Obama!!

  25. There goes the ‘electability’ meme..

    A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Voters finds Gingrich attracting 45% of the vote while President Obama earns support from 43%. Six percent (6%) prefer some other candidate, and six percent (6%) are undecided.

    link@:http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/2012_presidential_matchups

  26. #21
    correction:

    You can socially engineer the public without their approval first.

    Correction: You “can’t” socially engineer the public without their approval first.

    And Newt is the only one who can debate Obama under the table.

    And again, I have no favorites in the race.

  27. #25
    Spartan

    and Beck’s pick….Michelle Bachman on O’Reilly.

  28. I see that the word imposed just flew over some heads. Newt said why should we on the right impose our plans on the people, Think about that. Don’t just pass over what he said as anti. We as conservatives believe in the will of the people and not IMPOSED laws. Sometimes the circular firing squad kills off good people, not that Newt is all that, but at least here what he said.

  29. ++

    i’m sorry, but there’s something lacking in Newt..

    imho, he just doesn’t come across a being “leader”..

    a lecturer yes, well, that is his niche afterall..

    ==

  30. ++

    re: #30 November 30, 2011 at 11:12 pm bg

    a being “leader” = as being a “leader”..

    ==

  31. Well said, jainphx.

  32. I agree with Newt. The Government should not be in the “social engineering” business- whether it be right-wing or left-wing. I especially agree with his statement that reform cannot be sustained w/o the will of the people.

  33. We need an anal examination of Obama, not each other, but human nature being what it is. I would vote for anyone that comes out on top, but would have to hold my nose for Flipper Romney or Paul.

  34. How about Newt? Seems he will dig the irresponsible policies of Obama but in his case it will be brought up and it will be the truth. No, frills and Obama speak but the actually facts that some just can’t wrap their heads around to actually say. That is what many like about the guy. He is so quick on his feet and you won’t know you were insulted for 1/2 an hour later.

    He gets people thinking and it is highly likely that he will be the only candidate as he as proven to be to show Americans exactly what and who Obama truly is and he won’t bat at air but HIT the ball and make a home run.
    He is so qualified for being president that this nation seems to stuck on his personal past and not the New and Improved Newt.

    Obama is so stuck in his own world of socializing America that when Newt gets his turn at bat, Obama won’t even see it coming. Some may think he is a know it all but to those he is so forthcoming and intelligent and it seems fly over their heads.

    There will be a debate against Obama and for what it is worth, Newt is that guy.

    We better start checking the list an eliminating the ones we don’t like soon because election day will be here sooner than we think.

  35. So many good people here with the best interest of this country at heart. I have no doubt that when it comes down to our “person” against Obama, that we will all pull together, no doubt what so ever.

  36. Newt has been training for this job all his life. I would put his record up against Obama’s any day of the week.

    The ideals of Newt compare them, please to Obama and who would you want for President.

    And I feel like everyone does, you will vote the Opposite of Obama but that is what we did the last time around. We knew before we voted if we admitted it that our guy wasn’t the right guy.

    But this time we have to win and we must stay grounded and pray that we don’t think or I don’t think the same way as in ’08.

  37. #36 November 30, 2011 at 11:34 pm
    jainphx commented:

    So many good people here with the best interest of this country at heart. I have no doubt that when it comes down to our “person” against Obama, that we will all pull together, no doubt what so ever.

    NO DOUBT! :)

  38. Look at how Romney is collapsing. The establishment , the internal cogs of the party machine, the state chairs, the top tier consultants, AM talk shows & bloggers paid to sell the brand name candidate. They have finally QUIT on Romney making a heavy handed push for NEWT…This all happened following the super committee failure as a lot more Democrats now want to bail on Obama …and NEWT is a republican Democrats know they OWN. He will work with them like a good submissive whipping boy.

    So the political Maaab , crime families on both party sides, have made a big move….fitted Cain a pair of cement shoes and NEWT is your only choice…We are on a spin through the De Ja Vu time machine to the good ole 1990s …Following Obama’s look back to the 1960s….

    Do not Follow these party leaders. They only look backwards. They are too deep in corruption to end this failed socialist abomination. They are in too deep . Having a closed system protects them. It is nice to see the Democrats scrambling for redemption. They think their sins will be absolved by appointing Newt president…. We do not owe them the favor of dictating the terms of surrender.

  39. #39 November 30, 2011 at 11:40 pm
    donh commented:
    _________________

    Nicely put but I just want to see the thug out of the White House. And both parties have a ton of baggage but their are some great people there too.

    A few! God only knows how much I hope that there are. Even with the fighting that Obama wants in Washington there are those who are trying. I don’t wish to give up on them all just yet. Just want the Obama’s out of the White House for good.

    If it is the established Newt, so be it. But he is no Obama and he will do his best to get us on track. There are maybe another couple that could too, we will see.

  40. Newt is a lot stupider than he thinks, if he can’t understand the elementary distinction between these two things:

    a) Forcing people into a social program funded with money you’ve picked from their pockets.

    b) Recognizing that a program that people have already been made dependent on (and forced to fund) is going bankrupt and needs to be restructured so people who paid in can get something back, and/or opened up to allow people out of it.

    The first is social engineering (from the left).
    The second is NOT social engineering.

    Newt is an IDIOT if he thinks a) and b) are both just as bad.

  41. Newt Gingrich: …“Should Republicans impose a plan that is deeply unpopular. …”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    That is why I ain’t gonna vote for DEEPLY UNPOPULAR Newt.

    I remember when I was 9 yrs old and I thought Tricky Dickie looked smarmy and crooked.

    Man, that was nothin’ compared to Newt.

  42. Those of you who vote for Newt now, just remember, it is on your own shoulders to carry him through.

    You don’t get to use your Primary vote to emotionally blackmail the rest of us in the General Election.

    Your vote in the Primary is a lousy reason for me to jump off your cliff, too.

    He’s your baby, you walk the floor with him.

  43. ot-

    Cyborg Insects Could Be First Responders in Rescue Situations
    Who new? What a day in the age of technology.

    http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2011-11/new-first-responder-cyborg-insect-harvests-its-own-power

    We need rescue from Obama. Maybe these bugs will help! :lol:

  44. There are no good choices here. IMHO the lesser of two evils is Newt.

  45. ot

    45,000 Told To Evacuate German Town Before Massive WWII Bomb Is Defused

    http://www.publicradiodelmarva.net/post/45000-told-evacuate-german-town-wwii-bomb-defusement

  46. Folks, there is no point of paying attention to words- spoken or written- from anyone with as long a history as Newt. Look at DEEDS! He was put into leadership to effect change and for a couple years he did. Then he became part of the Washington establishment- and part of the problem! Heavily censured and fined, later became a high-dollar lobbyist. Does anyone REALLY believe he won’t flip over to being ‘one of the boys’ as soon as elected??

  47. Chuckie the candidate is nearly as scary as Mitt.

  48. This kind of thought process would allow Newt to
    self-justify not implementing corrective measures.

    It’s just another example of “playing nice”.

    And we see where that gets us.

  49. I ws intially very mad at Newt for his words against Ryan’s plan, which is supported by some fiscal conservative dems from the clinton administration.

    Because of the way that idiot david gregory asked the question, looking back, yes it was a gotcha question, and Newt did not realiase it, that one particular “right wing social engieneeing” phrase was used and never seen in context.

    I loathed Newt from the 90′s, but yesterday I watched Hannity’s show, and listened to Newt, and said how left-wing social engieneeing is bad as right wing social engieneering, shoving a plan down on America is bad from either side, first the public has to be convinced that a particular plan is good, and then pass it, like the welfare bill.

    I stand corrected, Newt is completely correct on it, and I’m glad he explained it that way. And now I agree with him, what he said was true, but NBC never allowed for Newt to put it in context, and that’s when the people from the far right had a knee jerk reaction.

    As an independent voter, Newt makes more and more valid points as I listened to him/

  50. and to the media, I do not care about Newt’s personal life, I DO NOT CARE.

    And as for him sitting on Pelosi’s coach, unlike Romney, he;s at least admitting it was a mistake, does he believe it or not? who knows what is truely in his heart, but at least he’s willing to openly admit it was a mistake and says he won’t do ti again.

    ABO. I’ll vote for Romney or Newt, whoever I see has the best chance of evicting Barry next year, and knows its not just Barry but the liberal mainstream media also who are the opponents.

  51. There he goes again. Newt, for all his brilliance and education, seems unable to grasp some vey basic principles of running a campaign. First among these principles is knowing when to stop talking.

    Look, I’m sure Newt has some great and glorious intellectual thought behind his position, right or wrong, but he just cannot seem to grasp the simple fact that he’s not in an advanced degree college classroom. This is a rough-and-tumble political war, not a cloistered forensic debating society meeting.

    Newt needs to remember the basics. When trying to get out of a hole, it’s best to stop digging.

  52. I watched the whole interview, and it was good. I heard him talk about this is, and what he said was that no one should put forth a policy that the U.S. people are against, such as Obamacare. His point, although I wish he wouldn’t use the phrase right wing engineering, was that if the Amerian people are against something overwhelming, it doesn’t matter whether its a right wing thing or a left wing thing, it shouldn’t be done agains the will of the people. Some of the things he says do make me uncomfortable, but at least he has sound reasoning behind his point. He had a lot of other very interesting and good things to say in that interview that I think we could all agree with.

  53. the obama camp will be looking for the easiest to dissect. i want a junk yard dog type who will have no problems pulling on the loose strings that make up obama. someone quick on their feet who won’t let arguable points go unanswered [as humanly possible]. when a point is made that requires a competing point and the ball is dropped…people assume the initial point is the truth – how can you comparison shop with only one side of the issue.

  54. Blacque
    He sure is. He is that old school GOP that thinks 40% vote GOP no matter what and it’s 11% or more of the independents that put you over the finish line.

    The worst part is, it’s sorta true.
    If he is the nominee, we’ll vote for him over Obama, so strategically he’s in little danger there.
    The only potential danger is if a conservative candidate decides to go third party over it and 10% from that 40% votes third party. Then we’re toast.

    Anyway, there’s still plenty of time and lots could change.
    I expect Bachmann to at least have another bite at the apple.

  55. Ecosse

    The problem there is that Newt says it in a way that is not straightforward and clear with the intention of being asked to clarify. Then he clarifies it in a way that is less offensive.

    For him, the tactic was intended to get him some face time on tv and have everybody watching to see if he really just said something that insane. Then like you, they say “oh, well it really wasn’t all that bad”.

    The real problem with Newt is this “smartest guy in the room” and “only adult in the room” mantra. He never has been the smartest guy. He’s just the mouthiest. He skated through a string of debates attacking the question or the questioner’s motives. This was applauded by people who don’t want to think too much and took it for a sign of strength.
    Anybody could see he planned to come out and attack the moderators. He could barely contain himself beyond the first question.

    BTW, for the smartest guy in the room, he sure gives himself a pass for doing something “stupid” a lot.

    I hope I never get that smart.

  56. Full of his self.

  57. Have read about 25% of Atlas Shrugged this week and find two themes,,,,social engineering is bad, with bad results that disincent people…social media is about anything but facts to the extent that facts are by there existence bad. Ayn Rand was a pretty smart person to have that perspective of social media 50 years before the ipad was born

  58. #50 a former dem commented:

    yesterday I watched Hannity’s show, and listened to Newt, and said how left-wing social engieneeing is bad as right wing social engieneering, shoving a plan down on America is bad from either side, first the public has to be convinced that a particular plan is good, and then pass it, like the welfare bill.

    I watched Hannity’s interview also and I’ll add this: Newt also said that he wants to offer (even Ryan’s plan – or a part of it?) as a CHOICE. He wants us to be able TO CHOOSE what works best for each of us. Nothing should be IMPOSED on Americans.

    Re his earlier position: In the 90′s, he (and the Heritage Fdn) was (were) looking for a solution to the problem of families making $75K/yr and choosing to buy a second car or whatever rather than purchase health insurance — irresponsibly/selfishly burdening the taxpayer with their medical bills.

  59. According to Newt he helped defeat communism with Reagan and Callista who runs his campaign is just like Nancy…

    Sure Newt…and you weren’t a profiteering lobbyist for Freddie Mac…and you didn’t try to tank Paul Ryan…and you didn’t support cap & trade…and you didn’t support individual mandates for health-care…yada yada yada

    This is another media propped poll bubble of another Big Govt. Washington Insider

  60. Still early but for what it’s worth……
    2012 Presidential Matchups

    National Poll: Gingrich 45% Obama 43%

    Wednesday, November 30, 2011

    The Newt Gingrich surge has moved him to the top of the polls in Iowa, big gains in New Hampshire and now a two-point edge over President Obama in a hypothetical general election match-up.

    2012 Presidential Matchups – Rasmussen Reports™

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/2012_presidential_matchups

  61. We are not going to get our George Washington out of this upcoming election. I’d take Newt over “Ears” starting now…

  62. “reform cannot be sustained without the will of the people”

    Seriously?

    Somebody better tell the Russians. They were Communist for 75 years, the last 70 or so of which they realized they’d made a mistake.
    Somebody better tell the Chinese who have been Communist since 1949 and still going strong. The most populous nation on Earth, with all media run by the government, and if you openly oppose government policy you get to disappear.

    Somebody better tell Americans.
    We’ve had social programs crammed down our throats one after the other since Woodrow Wilson, and so far we haven’t been able to unyoke ourselves from Social Security, Medicare, Food Stamps, WIC, housing subsidy, heating subsidy, etc. and I know the majority of people would like to see these ended.

    Newt’s plain wrong on that. You can do anything you want to the people as long as you have them convinced that it’s too hard to stop you.
    Wilson knew it.
    Roosevelt knew it.
    Johnson knew it.
    Obama knows it.

    The smartest guy in the room is the only one who doesn’t know it.

  63. PS
    What Ryan was trying too do (and too timidly in my opinion) was take on one of these monsters and cut it down to size with an eye toward undoing it. That’s not social engineering.
    That’s reverse engineering if anything.

    Get a clue Newt.

  64. MikeO #47

    Dead right!
    Sorry for my violent rhetoric.

  65. well here we go again……………..you’re making it so easy for David Axlrod…………..and left-spewing manchines…………We’re running out canditates here ………………about to bottom of seven………….if we keep nit-pick everything………………no harm intended

  66. a former dem #51

    YOu don’t care about Newt’s personal life, eh?

    So you don’t care that he took an oath of loyalty to his wife and pretended to keep it to her face while cheating on her for years behind her back?
    You might even say he professed one allegiance openly while secretly holding another.
    Dismiss that little character flaw with ease, do you?

  67. Greg #59

    I remember when I was reading Atlas Shrugged, it was like she could see into the future. It’s funny how the players change but the game stays the same.
    We’ll always have left and right thinking people and they will always be engaged in struggle.

    I’m glad I have the 80s to look back on. Kids today must think this is the worst country in the world.

    BTW, Ayn Rand was despised by the GOP elite. You can catch some of her old tv appearances on Youtube.

  68. workingclass 61
    +1

  69. gee!
    Don’t hate the players. hate the game.

    We didn’t pick this half dozen to be our pool of candidates. Thousands of great potential Presidents are out there but they won’t run because it has become too expensive and too much of a colonoscopy.

    Also too many people here don’t know whether they actually like a candidate or whether the media has convinced them that they do. Just look how they leapt onto Perry’s bandwagon this summer. Who’s cheering for him now? He hasn’t fundamentally changed in any way, so what happened.

    Would you have us not scrutinize the candidates?

    If every one of them is eliminated, maybe Sarah Palin or someone even more conservative and iron-willed will get in.
    But more likely, Romney will get this nomination, and the election will be a squeaker whichever way it goes.

  70. ++

    November 16, 2011

    The Electability Trap

    & more @ link..

    btw, i have to laugh at some people in here & out there..

    i mean, how much more scared could Obama make you??

    ==

  71. ++

    outside the blue pill..

    Shame on US

    Let’s hear it for the left wing media and the establishment republicans!!!

    No matter how much the so called conservative voters say, “We will
    not let the liberal media and the establishment republicans pick our
    candidates” they’re letting the liberal media and establishment
    republicans do just that.

    I can see the formula as clearly as I can see the
    face tightening ratchet on the back of Pelosi’s neck.

    The Republican Party has come to be a party
    that lacks the stamina to defend themselves.

    This is why the democrats are able to charge republicans
    with the evils the democrat party has done.

    It’s bloody ridiculous that even though the democrats did everything
    from founding the KKK, to standing in the way of women’s suffrage, to
    eugenics, republicans are the ones who get accused and stigmatized,
    and have about as much stamina as an emphezemic snowman in Las
    Vegas when it comes to defending themselves.

    Larry King away from his Viagra has more stamina than republicans do.

    And if republicans don’t have the gusto to defend even themselves
    against the profanely obvious evils that the democrats have done,

    then it stands to reason that they will
    most certainly not defend Herman Cain.]

    more @ link..

    a sad reality.. :-(

    ==

  72. When a candidate’s character doesn’t matter to you:

    Newt Gingrich: Serial Hypocrisy
    http://chasvoice.blogspot.com/2011/11/newt-gingrich-serial-hypocrisy.html

    Newt Gingrich’s Skeleton Closet
    http://chasvoice.blogspot.com/2011/11/newt-gingrichs-skeleton-closet.html

  73. #71………….like i said no harm intented…………….if you’re looking for perfect conservative candidate he or she doesn’t exist…………..This election will be about who can beat Obama not about who’s the most conservative………just saying

  74. Well, it seems that I am going to have to either sit this one out again or I am going to have to make a major move to another country. Newt will not change the status quo, neither will Romney.

    There are things that have to be done.

    1) Enforce our borders
    2) Stop crony corruption
    3) Institute America first and American monetary policy, we will only go down the same road as the first Great Depression if we continue on the same monetary policy. I have said it before, we are in the midst of one of the greatest depressions in the past 200 years. That GDP growth they have been talking about? What happens if you take away the 9-11% Deficit spending? You are left with a 7-9% GDP decline for the past 4 years.
    4) Shut down all immigration to countries of Islamic extremism. This includes Britain.
    5) Initiate a no holds barred energy exploration and expansion here in the Americas, including Canada, Mexico and the US
    6) Begin to eliminate funding for ALL leftist institutions, like Planned Parenthood and all the public unions.
    7) Begin immediate and open prosecutions and exposure of all corruption and crime in the government.

    These are just the top of the list, the list is much longer and unless this is done, you can say goodbye to the US, war and tyranny will commence if this is not done.

  75. sorry you feel that way………………but its the truth……………even members of his own party want this man gone even if they are’t thinking it out loud………….They know the damages that he’s done to this country and to their own party……………….just saying

  76. First they tried to foist Daniels, then Pawlenty, then Romney, then Perry, and now Newt. I want to see a conservative.

    Who can forget Nrwt singing the global warming song with Pelosi?
    Screw him.

  77. Anyone, anyone is better than Obama. That said, bring your shovels if Newt makes it. He will need all the help we can give him to help pull that load and hold up his ego.

    Obama must have a pile of crap on him because his MSM pooper-scoopers are leaving him alone and helping to steer this freight train.

  78. This is so dishonest. Newt likes Ryans plan. He would not force any plan until he sold to the public. Obamacare was rammed down our throat. Social Engineering is a process issue. Newt is a man among boys. He will own and embarrass Obama. Obama might bow out if he has to face Newt. He will be humiliated.

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