Herman Cain Stumped by Medicare Question – Tosses It Over to Newt at Lincoln-Lincoln Debate (Video)

I know I’m not supposed to post this.
I know (from my email and comments) that if you say anything remotely negative about Herman Cain you’re labeled a traitor to the tea party, a Romney-bot, Rick Perry’s b*tt boy, a racist idiot, etc.

But, anyway…
During the Lincoln-Lincoln debate this past weekend, Herman Cain tossed a Medicare question over to Newt Gingrich – He had no clue what it was they were asking.

It’s not the first time we’ve seen that deer in the headlights look on his face.

Don’t worry, though. We can teach him.

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  • Bob Z

    At this point if Newt is still in it for the Illinois primary I’m voting for him. I can’t wait to see him debate Obama.

  • Bob Z

    Good post to Jim. Cain just isn’t ready. He is just screwing up to much.

  • Sam Stone

    Any criticism of Cain is fine as long as it is legitimate.

    As a President, he does not need to know all the minute details since they have a staff and cabinet to cover most of it.

    Obama didn;t have a clue and still has no clue as we can see.

    Cain is a good man who could do the job. If we can survive 4 years of an American hating Islamist supporting man, Cain could hardly do worse.

  • linda

    One of the most civil and classy debates and educating the public on topics they might not otherwise have known and a conservative has to take something negative out of it!! Both were classy and they were BOTH brilliant. You are looking at the GOP team to BEAT Obama in 2012!

  • bg

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    not true, and you know it..

    i watched it live & several times since awaiting your Cain attack..

    has someone got a gun to your head GP??

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  • rcp

    We’ve had over 30 years of politician who know the “right” answer – look where it’s gotten us. Just because someone knows the “right” answer doesn’t qualify or disqualify them. Haven’t made my mind up – listening and evaluating now. There is a saying – “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” So do I want to vote for someone because they seem to have all the answers and political experience? Been there .. done that… how it working for us?

  • Bookmark removed

    Good Bye Jim. You have lost it. To test that conclusion, please show your guest your last anti Perry post.

  • NeoKong

    Oh come on Jim.
    Those were catch phrases.
    It’s like saying “entitlement reform” or “national security”.

    The question has to put in a context and even if they caught him off guard so what…?

    If he becomes CIC is he supposed to know how to fly an F-22 or skipper a ballistic sub….?
    Do you think the CEO of McDonald’s knows how to butcher a cow ?

  • raybojabo

    What the hell kind of stupidass question is that?

  • kringeesmom

    I thought it was Newts turn, since Cain answered the previous question first.

  • Potkas7

    Herman Cain is a Good Man. He is both sincere and patriotic and you can take for granted that he is motivated to seek the Presidency by the best of motives. However, Newt Gingrich has spent a lifetime studying public issues, thinking deeply and mastering the details. Saturday night we got to see the difference between sincere, well-intentioned man and a black belt, Jedi Master of politics. If I had to choose a winner I’d choose Gingrich. But what a team they would make!

  • bg

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    an edited .32 second “hit piece” is just as bad, actually worse, as you are supposedly a Patriot & TEA Party member, than PLOITICO’s not only baseless, but ironically opposite of what Cain was all about smear that you keep expanding on.. why is that GP< just want to know why?? is it money?? or perhaps power?? because unless you've become addicted to your pain meds, i can't see what else it could be.. *sigh*

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  • JB

    The conservative base does not need its own cult of personality. How has that worked out for the US for the last several years?

    Like Herm personally, but he’s not ready for prime time.

  • FreaksOfANation

    Nice Jim… Someone is doing there job… yes Tea Party may be sad but he has to educate himself on some issues… the thing is HE IS TEACHABLE, not like our current “Community Organzing anti-capitalist, anti-american, anti-Israel, President of the arab World”….

    http://www.swagbucks.com/refer/CajunCookie

  • bg

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    Herman Cain Stumped by Medicare Question

    yeah right GP, the man doesn’t have a clue, and you do??

    WHERE ARE THE PERRY POSTS??

    the man thinks before he speaks = fumbles vs quick
    slick nothings = smarter than your average politician

    dummies ‘r’ US

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  • Michael D

    I guess if Romney was asked he would have said both, and you would have thought that answer wonderful Jim…right ? Leadership is not necessarily knowing the minute details of every issue on demand. You might want to start thinking a little Jim, instead of your reflexive negative reaction to Herman Cain.

  • BarbaraS

    What is a defined benefit plan? I must be dumb but I’ve been on medicare for 11 years and don’t what the h*ll he’s talking about.

    Hey, I looked it up and they’re talking about obama’s plan for lower premiums for lower risk patients on medicare. One foot in the door to limited government health care. Not much different than the fascist policy of medicare as it is but with less money to pay the health speciaiists. This paves the way to say this plan isn’t working, the government will now step in and limit your choices and your benefits with the death panels obama says are not there. They say you can keep the plan as it is but how long would that last if medicre is tanking? I don’t trust this president or his administration at all except to screw the American people if he can.

    I don’t understand why the moderator thought Cain would know about this cr*p. Obama certainly has not publicised it much. I hate these debate with biased moderators with their gotcha questions. Even when Fox hosts them, the moderators are liberal.

  • daryl

    Jim said:

    “Don’t worry, though. We can teach him.”

    Yeah, Jim. He’s just what we need, alright. Another “earn while you learn” prez with even less no how than the current resident, and in four short years if he hasn’t learned it we’ll give him four more years. Hell of a perfect way to run the country on over the cliff.

  • john03

    Please post Newt’s reply. As someone who’s worked in healthcare finance for the last thirty years I’m curious as to his answer. I have an idea what the moderator was talking about but I’ll bet you $100 he didn’t. He got that question from some obscure proposal on Medicare reform. If you took a poll of your readers I would be surprised if you could find even five people out of a thousand that could accurately answer that question.

  • jainphx

    Come on Jim your bias is coming through loud and clear. I understand you would prefer some one else, but you’re piling on here. Can’t anyone come out and say I’m for so and so, without the gratuitous slams on a good man.

  • BarbaraS

    I will ad this. Cain is not my choice but let’s get real here. The media’s job is to tear down any republican candidate so as to nominate Romney. They know full well a lot of republicans will stay home rather than vote for that democrat green flip flopper. And if they stay home chances are we will lose both houses of congress. They gave us McCain in 2008 and took away Palin since then. They are lying scum.

  • bg

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    Gateway Pundit,

    don’t know why you are only interested in posting hit pieces re: the debate after the fact vs having had posted the live debate so all could see & hear the truth as it unfolded.. you couldn’t risk that, you would have nothing to sabotage.. again, shame on you, much shame, congratulations & may God help you, you have become as devoid of conscious & as soulless as your nemesis Obama.. 🙁

    whether i pass tomorrow, weeks, months, or years from now..
    i will disappear, but you will have to live with yourself for a long
    time to come.. i just hope & pray hope when you look back you
    can tell yourself it was worth it..

    ==

  • bg

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    btw, i’m glad i haven’t emailed you..

    as you know, i confront vs condemn..

    ==

  • myohmy

    What? We only have two choices for the GOP Tuppee Rino Mitt or Gardasil Perry? Repubs are becoming a permanent minority.

  • workingclass artist

    It’s called vetting the candidate & since Herman Cain has no governing record for voters to use as an indicator (since he’s never won an election) this matters.

    It’s interesting how much a pass Cain gets simply because he can turn on that radio personality or break into song. I’m not impressed and his 999 or is it 909 with enterprise zones or whatever it is means a VAT and a national sales tax and will never pass in congress. Other than that what has Cain got….nuthin’

    Keep up the good work Mr. Hoft.

  • USAP

    I’m sorry to have to inform the Cainbots of this mornings latest developments and pop their circus balloons BUT, See the DRUDGE headline.

    Smoke….fire…you know the rest. Bubbye Hermie.

  • workingclass artist

    @#22 bg

    Why don’t you just leave the board…It’s a free country and you can head on over to Free Republic?

    This isn’t a “hit piece” It is a factual piece showing Cain at the debate….It doesn’t distort the FACT that Cain couldn’t answer the question and punted to the wonky Gingrich.

    Cain is mostly razzle dazzle and light on substance…And his gaffes repeatedly show this weakness which is a common weakness with Autocrats who have never held office…Perot had the same weakness.

  • bg

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    LISTEN TO THE DEBATE

    Herman Cain is no dummy..

    dummies did not listen to the debate..

    though i’m certain GP did in order to
    knit-pick edit his .32 second piece..

    GP needs the Herman Cain campaign to send
    him the JOURNALISTIC BOOK ON ETHICS..

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  • myohmy

    The DNC is laughing their heads off. It is important to keep the stench of Obama’s failure presidency away while repubs obliged in the circular firing squad again and Gloria Allred (all time wh*re, show me the money.) is leading the way.

  • workingclass artist

    @26

    Yeah…These “victim eruptions” whether true or not will continue to pop up. Coupled with the current FEC investigations to Team Cain campaign funding irregularities this will probably tank him & it will sow up in the worthless polls by next week.

    Charm only gets you so far.

    “A fourth woman will claim that Herman Cain sexually harassed her while at the National Restaurant Association in a press conference today, RadarOnline first reported early Monday.

    The woman will be represented by Gloria Allred, the Los Angeles-based attorney who represented one of the women involved in the Anthony Weiner twitter scandal earlier this year.

    The press conference will be at 1:30 p.m. at the Friars Club in New York City…”

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/report-fourth-woman-alleges-cain-harrassment-will-hold-press-conference-today-2011-11#ixzz1d28eaNYu

    Gloria Allred….YIKES!

  • nick

    I sent $99.00 to Cain 10 days before the eruption.

    When I observed the way Cain was not prepared to effectivly deal with a story he knew was going to hit the media I can no longer support Cain.

    It is also shocking how ill informed Cain was on China and nukes.

  • donh

    If Jim isn’t attacking Obama, he’s attacking CAIN< CAIN <CAIN… It makes people rightly wonder if Jim has subconscious black issues…..
    Has there been one attack post on Perry or Romney in the last week ? month? I have seen plenty of poor debate answers from them. The choices Republicans are giving us are ALL lousy. It is by design. Cain at least screws the establishment and he is most likely to succeed the Tea Party agenda Romney and Perry would VETO.

  • bg

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    #27 November 7, 2011 at 9:15 am
    workingclass artist

    that is non of your business..

    GP knows i won’t leave unless i have no other choice, GP also
    knows that i would leave in a heartbeat should he ask me to..

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  • bg

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    re: #33 November 7, 2011 at 9:26 am bg

    non = none = whatever

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  • Jenny

    GP playing gotcha now? I am so disappointed.

  • Oh good grief, GW.

    Big deal. It was a dumb question that means absolutely nothing, and taken out of the context of the flow of the entire evening.

    Why not show the clips where Herman answered like a real pro – a serious contender? Did you watch the entire debate? I doubt it, because if you had, you’d have to admit that Herman Cain is not the moron you want your readers to believe he is. It’s not in your intere$t, perhap$.

    You want another default candidate, not someone who earned the honor. Let these candidates slug it out on stage. Is that too much to ask? Apparently so.

    I’m sorry, but you are really coming off as childish and whiney. I’m a huge Gateway Pundit fan, and so I find this sort of pettiness below your standards, and below that of your loyal readers.

  • Tom Smith

    I was an elected official for 8 years. I learned quickly that if you have guiding principles you do not need to know the nuances of a system you came to change.

  • USAP

    @donh commented:

    If Jim isn’t attacking Obama, he’s attacking CAIN< CAIN <CAIN… It makes people rightly wonder if Jim has subconscious black issues…..

    Don’t even go there. You sound like a lefty. Look yourself in the mirror and apologize.

  • Cain didn’t have the specific answer, but even more importantly, he didn’t have the ability to handle the question without appearing befuddled.

    He could have thrown that vague question back to the questioner, legitimately asking for a clarification. But he didn’t, and appeared stunned and paralyzed. That does not leave a positive impression.

    I like Cain a lot, and would have no problem voting for him, but these stumbles are not helping him.

  • Ginger

    bg..

    There is a #4 accuser coming out and Gloria Alred is representing her! News conference soon!

  • BuddyG

    How many doctors does it take to change a light bulb?

    N U R S E !

  • workingclass artist

    @#32

    “Cain at least screws the establishment and he is most likely to succeed the Tea Party agenda Romney and Perry would VETO.”

    Boy you bought that “Tea Party” sell hook line & sinker…Tell me how a former Washington DC Lobbyist Insider and Head of the KC FED is going to achieve Wompass Reform in DC?

    Cain is ideologically identical to Romney (The 999 plan is a sham that could never pass congress)

  • bg

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    Ginger #40 November 7, 2011 at 9:36 am

    f her & the horses she & her posse are riding on..

    whatever happened to all of Gloria’s other faux cases??

    anybody?? GP?? Bueller??

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  • workingclass artist

    Allred kneecapped Whitman in California….This is gonna get ugly.

  • Borch

    Regarding the question – I think that it was “poorly asked”. I had to wonder for a moment if the question was about health care or social security. Mr. Cain should have asked for a clarification of the question and he would have been fine. Passing off to Newt was not a good idea. Over all, the “discussion” was refreshing and it provided great insight to the way these candidates view the issues in a non hostile environment. More Please…

  • Thppptt!!!

    Hey Jim. Your a traitor to the tea party, a Romney-bot, Rick Perry’s b*tt boy, a racist idiot, etc. Oh well.

  • Stuart Paulson

    “It makes people wonder if Jim has ‘subconscious black issues'”?

    Really?

    Subconscious?

  • Paul in N. AL

    If Gloria Alred is attacking a candidate, then you know that candidate is worth supporting.

  • Uncle Monkey

    #31 In Cain’s defense, he misspoke about the China nuke thing – he’s on record (and video) talking about China’s current nuclear capabilities.

    That said, he’s in this up to his eyeballs and he’s got to sink or swim on his own. He’s made plenty of proper gaffes and is obviously deficient in a lot of things from foreign to domestic issues.

    I like(d) him a lot – the 9-9-9 plan lost me for a lot of reasons.

    We can’t just give the man a pass on his inabilities. The other side did that with Obama. Not giving him a pass doesn’t automatically make you a Mitt supporter. We need somebody who’s going to kick ass and take names when they get in, and that’s not Mitt. Mitt’s a return to politics as usual, and we’re too far down this road to not have a POTUS who’s going to turn us around.

    Now Gloria Friggin’ Allred has Cain’s accuser, so the circus is just starting to pitch it’s tent. This is a damn shame as it’s going to divert attention (yet again) from the real issues for far, far too long.

  • JimmyT

    I don’t know the difference and I’m close to retirement. I’ll know before I retire. Herman hasn’t spent the last 30 years working with government programs so he would know every little nuance. He been busy working to create jobs.

  • workingclass artist

    Allred will divert the media into another week of baiting the Cain campaign over this issue…His campaign had better be on top of it.

    Unless she filed charges which it doesn’t see as if she did it means nothing but a giant distraction which is what it was when the “Victim Maid Story” erupted with Whitman…That story did damage.

  • Tired Okie

    As I’ve said before “You and Carl Rove are joined at the mouth”

  • USAP

    @Thppptt!!! commented:

    Hey Jim. Your a traitor to the tea party, a Romney-bot, Rick Perry’s b*tt boy, a racist idiot, etc. Oh well.

    Herman Cain hasn’t launched any Tea Partyesque attacks on Mitt or Newt. I wonder why?
    You sir are the epitome of the ignorant Cain supporter.

  • bg

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    can’t wait to see GP et al give THE PIMPESS ALRED credit..

    the devil is in the details, and truth will will out..

    God Bless Herman Cain..

    and damn all of those who are about to give the
    msm cockroaches another claim to fame.. *sigh*

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  • Ginger

    I said to my husband the other day that if the commie/republicans/Rove/Romney/Perry ..the so called three accusers did not work taking Mr. Cain down, I said watch there will be one right after another untill they succed. Sure anough!

  • Deanna

    that if you say anything remotely negative about Herman Cain you’re labeled a traitor to the tea party, a Romney-bot, Rick Perry’s b*tt boy, a racist idiot, etc.

    Whining won’t help. And the criticism is justified. Look, if you are a Perry supporter or whatever, fine. Just don’t defend your coverage of this political news period by criticizing the people who make comments.

    As I said before, I don’t like Cain or any of the candidates but ABO. So I am disappointed in your coverage, I would have liked to have seen some coverage on the Cain/Gignrich debate and been able to discuss it with other commenters and you. Then you post one excerpt that may make Cain look bad and you accuse commenters as being what…mean to you? LOL

    You weren’t interested and it’s your site and that’s fine. But just be upfront about it and say so. Just tell the commenters that instead of this whine you took up today, it’s not becoming and actually disappointing.

    Oh, and Jim…Gloria Allred called for you, I know you want to call her back. LOL

  • Ghost

    O woe is me! stop it with the victim impact statements, you’re starting to act like them!

    what’s your problem, Jimbo?

    you should know that after decades of interminable, insufferable bias against conservatism and decency, our ears are pricked the second an unfair bias line is breached. It’s not the criticism, you tool- it’s the distortion, the misrepresentation, the unfair characterization, the arrogant refusal to engage on the level playing field in the arena of IDEAS!

    It always shows up in picayune nitpicking and name-calling and broad-brush labeling. That’s the feedback you’re getting Jimbo! So stop the wah-wah and let conservatives choose their favorite-
    that’s what primaries are for. Every conservative desires good information, that’s all we want.

    Confusing Conservative annoyance with Leftist intolerance is unbecoming of you.

  • workingclass artist

    @#49

    Cain “mis speaks” every week…Sheesh!

    Perry is lambasted for being inarticulate in those first debates…Romney for flip-flops

    Same standard should be applied across the board.

  • Ohio Granny

    Jim, 1) it isn’t that Herman Cain isn’t smart enough to answer the question, it is that he is too smart so he wants to have real numbers and facts. Sadly, even a very smart guy doesn’t have all the numbers or all the facts at his finger tips. 2) Newt spent years in congress emersing himself in this kind of minutea so that he can appear to have answers. What Newt doesn’t have is a good track record on his own pork barrel spending, or his own Big Government solutions.
    Mr. Cain is a bright bright man who can get down into the belly of the beast with his numbers. And when he does, he will emerge with the path out of the problem.
    I don’t understand why you dug your heels against him Jim, and if you would continue to do so if he were the nominee.
    I don’t talk to Ron Paul supporters because their modus operandi is to throughly trash anyone who is not Ron Paul (except Dennis Kucinich – whom they luv). It appears we can no longer disagree with someone without tearing them down completely.
    I used to be a fan of Chris Christy but learned that he wasn’t perfect. Then I was a fan of Rick Perry until I realized he cannot win in a debate against Obama. Then I gave a hard look at Herman Cain and realized he was the only one who could keep his vision and not just be democrat light.

  • bg

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    workingclass artist #58 November 7, 2011 at 9:52 am

    re: [Same standard should be applied across the board.]

    i not only agree, but have asked the same of GP..

    so where are the Perry et al posts??

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  • USAP

    If Jim isn’t attacking Obama, he’s attacking CAIN< CAIN <CAIN… It makes people rightly wonder if Jim has subconscious black issues…..
    Has there been one attack post on Perry or Romney in the last week ? month? I have seen plenty of poor debate answers from them. The choices Republicans are giving us are ALL lousy. It is by design. Cain at least screws the establishment and he is most likely to succeed the Tea Party agenda Romney and Perry would VETO.

  • donh

    ” Oh, and Jim…Gloria Allred called for you, I know you want to call her back. LOL ” Jim is already booked to sit in on the View and discuss Herman’s RAPE rape with Joy Behar.

  • USAP

    #61

    Was not me posting.

  • Anybody seen my camp shovel? Time to dig a foxhole.

  • Ginger

    bg…and any one else that feels that Mr. Cain is being trashed please research!

    You people are good researchers so maybe you can find the video. On Fox this morning they were talking about Perry’s aide and I can not remember her name TWITTED that a (code word) in 5/6 days a news story will come out that will shake things up! They said sure enough the story about sexual harassment charges came out on Mr. Cain.
    ………………………………………………………………………….

    btw…Jim

    How much $$$$ did it take for you to sale your soul to the devil?

    mo fo

  • Jenny

    Perhaps Jim’s Cain bashing is intended to increase his site traffic?

  • Patty

    I listened to the debates. I was thrilled with both gentlemen. Newt was really funny and he has very simple ideas that WILL work. Cain has a business sense and together they CAN help America get back on its feet.

    There maybe answers that aren’t up to the standards of some elitists in D.C.. And possibly after a week of fighting off Politico hit piece, Cain may not have meant the Standards of Kristol and other Washington columnists. But, may I dare say, Cain has the answers on how to redo the mess that Obama has made. Cain is business man, through and through. His 40 years of experience will truly help this nation from falling of the cliff completely.

    The two of these men are world’s apart from Obama. Both have credentials that stand heads above Obama. I know that Cain has never been a Politician, do you?

    He will clean up the clutter that is in regulations, unnecessary pork and how to manage a budget on a shoe string. Cain is a problem solving who has exactly what it takes to fix our deficit.

    And btw, just heard Ryan likes Romney plan. That was a surprise because so does Cain. But Ryan. Things are going to change between now and election day. All I hope is that the person, whomever it may be, picks a great VP, but more importantly, BEATS OBAMA.

    A problem that I have found yesterday is that the unemployed have exhausted all the savings. Situation in this nation is worst than dire. We need a mind that WILL fix America.

    A Candidate that will bring in Excellent individuals who ARE problem solvers and not, in Obama’s case those he owns favors for donations to his campaign.

  • Scott Dawson

    Good, Jim reads the comments and we’ve had an effect on him.

  • bg

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    Borch #45 November 7, 2011 at 9:41 am

    listen to the debate, they did that back and
    forth to each other throughout until the end..

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  • Roy Lofquist

    “We can teach him”

    Not a daunting task by any means. He seems to be a quick learner.

    “Cain grew up in Georgia[22] and graduated from Morehouse College in 1967 with a Bachelor of Science degree in mathematics.

    Accepted for graduate studies at Purdue, Cain received a Masters in computer science there in 1971,[23] while he also worked full-time as a ballistics analyst for the U.S. Department of the Navy.[24]

    Cain received the 1996 Horatio Alger Award[25] and has received honorary degrees from Creighton University, Johnson & Wales University, Morehouse College, University of Nebraska, New York City Technical College, Purdue University, Suffolk University, and Tougaloo College.[26]”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain

    But he did not remain a computer geek.

    “At age 36, Cain was assigned in the 1980s to analyze and manage 400 Burger King stores in the Philadelphia area. At the time, Burger King was a Pillsbury subsidiary. Under Cain, his region posted strong improvement in three years.[35][36] According to a 1987 account in the Minneapolis Star Tribune, Pillsbury’s then-president Win Wallin said, “He was an excellent bet. Herman always seemed to have his act together.”[33] At Burger King, Cain “established the BEAMER program, which taught our employees, mostly teenagers, how to make our patrons smile” by smiling themselves. It was a success: “Within three months of the program’s initiation, the sales trend was moving steadily higher.”[37]”

    Sounds like somebody who might be useful – turned around two large companies that were tanking. Kinda like the USA today.

  • Luke Duke

    Bravo, Jim.
    Cain is hopelessly over his head, and if the “tea party agenda” is smaller, less intrusive government, then he is not the tea party candidate.

    999? setting aside the obvious sales tax stuff, why would you build your campaign on the foundation of a *tax* plan, when the problem is *spending*?

    Small Government? He was a lobbyist. ’nuff said.

    Financial system fixes? He thinks Greenspan is the model for Fed chair. Not for me, thanks.

    Competence as a candidate?
    If he can’t answer basic questions or even ask for clarification, but rather has to toss it to Newt for the lifeline, then Cain is way over his head.

    Then there’s the personal stuff…. We don’t need this. Cain supporters have a hard time articulating his conservative, small-government credentials and record, just as his supporters have a hard time articulating their support for him on the basis of conservative ideals. Sputtering: Racist! is not an answer.

    HAve a seat, Herm. Let those who can answer questions have the stage.

  • bg

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    dear GP, just in case you missed this, there you go again..

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  • USAP

    Come on Jim your bias is coming through loud and clear. I understand you would prefer some one else, but you’re piling on here. Can’t anyone come out and say I’m for so and so, without the gratuitous slams on a good man.

  • bg

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    Herman Cain

    Herman Cain HeadshotHerman Cain is a businessman, politician, and radio host who is a candidate for the Republican nomination. He is the CEO of Godfather’s Pizza and was the chairman of the board of directors for the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansaas City. He currently serves as a minister at the Antioch Baptist Church North in Atlanta, Georgia. EDUinReview will now take a look at his education background.

    Cain was born on December 13, 1945, in Memphis Tennessee. His parents are Lenora and Luther Cain, Jr. In 1967, Cain graduated from Morehouse College, where he studied mathematics. Four years later, he earned a Master of Science degree from Purdue University, where he studied computer science. Cain earned his master’s degree while he was working as a full-time ballistics employee for the U.S. Department of the Navy. Cain has received eight honorary degrees from Creighton, Johnson & Wales, Morehouse College, University of Nebraska, New York City Technical College, Purdue, Suffolk University, and Tougaloo College.

    After Cain finished his master’s work at Purdue, he quit his job with the Navy and went to work for the Coca-Cola Company as a business analyst. He then joined Pillsbury in 1977 and became the Vice President of the company in the early 1980s. In 1988, Cain and several investors bought Godfather’s Pizza from Pillsbury and Cain became the CEO of the company.

    Cain first ran for a Republican presidential nomination in 2000, but he quickly withdrew from the race. In 2004, he ran for a position in the U.S. Senate in Georgia but came in second place, after Johnny Isakson. Then in 2010, Cain seemed to have found a new source of political inspiration. He spoke at more than 40 Tea Party rallies, visited all of the early presidential states, and even became a YouTube sensation. He announced a presidential exploratory committee in January 2011.

    Fast Draw: Herman Cain

    Bubba v Brain

    ==

  • Patty

    Each candidate may have a little something we like and if there were a way to roll a piece of each one into ONE, what a candidate and definitely would beat Obama, uh?

    Well, that is naive and I can get excited about any 1 candidate. In Cain’s case, he is a charming man and again, came up from humble beginnings and became a success. I suppose no one here would like that.

    I understand the recent poll says Romney, Romney Romney, uck! He is like a robotic leftover from ’08, who is to say that America wants a leftover Rino.

  • bg

    ++

    re: #74 November 7, 2011 at 10:14 am bg

    Herman Cain HeadshotHerman Cain = Herman Cain is a businessman,

    ==

  • Patty

    Correction: I cannot get excited about one candidate.

  • bg

    ++

    Patty #75 November 7, 2011 at 10:15 am

    2012 Republican Presidential Nomination

    ==

  • Patty

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b91nsPDQFUk

    Talk about speaking out of mouth sides of your mouth. Just listen to the person in the WH. to speaks.

    Please just listen. This is Why. Or one of the many reasons we must win. HYPOCRISY

  • Rose

    “LINCOLN-LINCOLN”?????????????

    You really meant “DOUGLAS-DOUGLAS”, didn’t you!

    LOL! What a love fest!

  • Patty

    Correction: Two accents. Who is this socialists and it makes me SCREAM.

  • bg

    ++

    just another opinion..

    What really matters about Herman Cain?

    but the bottom line that matters most is who “we the people” choose as
    our candidate, not who we allow the msm, bloggers, etc, choose for US..

    ==

  • daryl

    # 72
    Checked how deep that hole has gotten that you’re digging for yourself lately? hmmm?
    Much deeper, you and all of your cheerleaders won’t be able to pull you out.
    Time for cainiacs to douse the hookah and break out the crack pipe.

  • Patty

    I don’t want to be told who is good for us. I am stubborn in that respect. A robot and rino just isn’t good enough.

    I am just saying that Gingrich and Cain would be better. At least in this moment in time. Again, though, it was chose McCain. We know how that worked out for us.

    In many respects, I feel we are backed into a corner. I guess, I am still waiting for a Reagan.

  • Ginger

    Hey Jim

    Thanks for the copies and will see you at the next Tea Party Rally with my bull horn.

    As Perry says

    mo fo

  • Rose

    I am flabberghasted by the amount of the stupid attacks on Jim. He has consistently done an EXCELLENT JOB of presenting us the issues that Conservatives care about and reporting for the Tea Parties.

    But you think the interest of ONE MAN who is making a bad show of HIMSELF is a good occasion to SHOOT THE MESSENGER instead of holding your pet darling accountable for his own actions.

    If Cain were doing well, Jim would most certainly give him good reports. All Jim is doing is reporting what Cain is doing.

    Some of you want to pretend that Cain is NOT acting like Jesse Jackson and Ted Kennedy.
    Or that if anyone attacks Cain for bad stunts that they are saying that it is OK for Obama, Jesse Jackson and Ted Kennedy to have done their evil deeds.

    THAT is not the consistency of Conservatives.

    IF YOU THINK OBAMA IS WRONG, why pick up a Black Bill Clinton/Ben Bernanke! Next you will be telling us that Mrs. Cain doesn’t need to bake cookies.

  • bg

    ++

    re: #82 November 7, 2011 at 10:24 am bg

    Media Unfairly Criticizes Herman Cain Over China Nuclear ‘Gaffe

    [One of the subplots to last week’s Herman Cain Bad-Press-A-Palooza (bad press that seems to have helped him) was his supposed gaffe in an interview with PBS’ Judy Woodruff on Monday night’s Newshour. The clip has widely been reported as demonstrating that Cain did not know that China has had nuclear weapons since 1964, and that he thinks they still don’t. For a week now, I’ve been waiting for someone to point out that Cain indicated no such thing.

    He was referring specifically to the Chinese aircraft carrier program, which, in fact, began sea trials in August. “And” or “umm” notwithstanding, you can “develop” a capability that you already possess, so the attack is unfair even without the context, but with that context, it is clear that Cain was talking about the Chinese carrier program.

    You would expect liberals to beat up on Cain over this “gaffe,” much as they did when Sarah Palin correctly noted that the Soviets “won that race to space” with the launch of Sputnik 1 (while completely misunderstanding its significance, though). However, when ostensibly neutral news organizations promote the fallacy, it’s a huge problem.

    [..]

    The best explanation I can think of is that the appeal of the (distorted view of) the clip, fitting as it does into the pre-packaged narrative about Cain and foreign policy, overcame the media’s ability to understand the words that were coming out of Herman Cain’s mouth. While we’ve come to expect a certain amount of license from the opposing teams in the opinion media, it’s inexcusable for the referees to miss such a glaringly obvious call.]

    ==

  • Patty

    Here is an overview of October Jobs Report.

    US Payrolls +80,000
    US Unemployment Rate 9.0%
    Unemployment rate in narrow range from 9.0 to 9.2 percent since April.
    Participation Rate steady at 64.2%
    Actual number of Employed (by Household Survey) rose by 277,000
    Unemployment fell by 95,000
    Those not in the labor force increased by 17,000
    Civilian population rose by 198,000,
    Civilian Labor Force rose by 181,000
    Average Weekly Workweek was unchanged 34.3 hours
    Average Private Hourly Earnings rose 5 Cents to $23.19
    Government employment decreased by 24,000
    ____________________________________

    Sorry, Now who didn’t see this happening. My mind immediately went to her, when scandal first broke. http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/07/gloria-allred-to-represent-new-cain-accuser/

  • Patty

    Gloria Allred to represent Cain’s accuser.

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/07/gloria-allred-to-represent-new-cain-accuser/

    in case you missed it.

  • john03

    “We can teach him” —- Not the answer to that question because no one, not even Newt, understood what was being asked. From what I can gather, the reason most people here are upset is that he didn’t give us a standard BS answer like most politicians do when they don’t have a clue. He could have done that but what would that have accomplished? So what you want to teach him is how to give standard talking points answers that have no relation to the question. I’ve heard enough of that already.

  • bg

    ++

    daryl #83 November 7, 2011 at 10:24 am

    is that a threat??

    should i kow-tow to you & yours or be booted to oblivion??

    what’s exactly your point (_’o’_)??

    ==

  • Patty
  • Bobbi

    Jim. I’m UN-bookmarking GP. Last couple of weeks you’ve not posted anything on Trans Canada Keystone XL and Obama starting next war with Iran
    Only anti-Cain posts and junk about an UN-news worthy OWS.

  • ella

    Cain doesn’t know what he is doing. Even Dr. Jack Wheeler says this about him. He isn’t ready for prime time. Put a fork in Cain he is done.

    A 4th woman is stepping forward on sexual harassment against Cain today. Cain is a Bill Clinton with an R after his name. We call people like that sexual predators.

  • Restless Legs

    I was a Cain supporter until this debate… now I will probably pull the lever for Gingrich in the primaries. Then again, I’ve been very fickle during this primary season. I started off strong for Pawlenty… and then drifted to Bachmann and then to Perry and then to Cain… and now I’m in the Gingrich camp. I’m looking for the best non-Romney. Gingrich hasn’t thrilled me in the past with some of his statements and stands, but he knows his stuff. On top of that, Cain is starting to come across as “a mile wide and an inch deep” on several issues. He really needs to brush up on some of these things.

  • daryl

    No threat #91, merely an observation.
    Only thing you have to fear from me is when will I uncover your use of the next lefty link.

  • Deanna

    #86 November 7, 2011 at 10:32 am
    Rose commented:

    I am flabberghasted by the amount of the stupid attacks on Jim. He has consistently done an EXCELLENT JOB of presenting us the issues that Conservatives care about and reporting for the Tea Parties.

    Sorry Rose but people are allowed to criticize Jim. He hasn’t always been consistent, no one is. I do appreciate his reporting on many of the issues but he has been slanted in his coverage of Cain and this last post represents that.

    Tell me why he did’t just post a thread on the Cain/Gingrich debate and let us comment on it. Even AoSHQ did that and he has been a huge critic of Cain’s. Instead Jim chose to nit pick one question after he was criticized and then accuse us commenters of being unfair to him.

    A blogger has the right to choose what he posts but what I dislike is this blame the commenters as being mean. If you can’t take the heat…

  • Beth

    Hey bg, you silly twit – I watched it too. Cain’s response after his cues from Newt only indicate his knowledge is limited to his own narrow personal experience in the private sector. He doesn’t have a clue about Obozocare or Medicare or anything in the public sector. As president – especially one who claims he will repeal Obamacare (and “sign the constitutional amendment!” LMFAO) – he needs to know a little more than just the things that have touched him personally. He is the most narrow thinker I’ve ever seen in public life, EVER.

  • Gary

    bg

    objectivity!

    There are no Perry posts because Perry is all but out of the race. Where are the Santorum posts? Where are the Huntsman posts? Heck, where are the Bachmann posts?

    Now on this silly “issue”, the only thing I’m waiting for is a statement by Cain later that says he did understand the question, no he did not punt it, and we got it all wrong about that .
    “Apples and oranges” he’ll say.
    😛

  • shibumi

    It’s interesting to debate the details of the Republican candidates, but let’s look at the big picture. Would anyone here vote for Obama rather than Cain? How about Obama rather than Romney? Or maybe Obama vs. a Golden Retriever? There is no way on this earth that I am voting for Teh Won, so really, all of these issues are just blips on the radar. Because in the end, the absolute worst Republican candidate (Ron Paul?) is still better than Obama.

  • Beth

    http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/CainNew start at 36:22 to continue where the subject video ends. The full thing doesn’t help Cain AT ALL. LMAO But I guess if you’re ignorant and cult-drunk like bg (which explains his Cain worship) it sounds brilliant.

  • bg
  • daryl

    Couldn’t have described ol’ Herm better myself # 95. But he’s knee deep in bimbo eruptions
    right now so he’s a little more than an inch deep at least in something.

  • Gary

    I’m glad more people are starting to see what I see.

    Cain is still young enought make a solid run for it in 2016.
    He just isn’t ready yet. It was an enormous leap from CEO to CIC and leader of the free world.
    He should run a major U.S. city or a state first. He doesn’t have to be a Washington insider, but he does need experience running something more dynamic than a company.

    That’s why I’m not bitter about Bachmann. She is the only one in the group with a consistent conservative voting record to match the rhetoric, but she isn’t ready and people see it.
    They ran from her to Perry to Cain. Now they’ll have to run elsewhere as he reveals that he just isn’t ready to be prez.

    And no the answer is not “at least he’ll be better than Obama.” That isn’t the standard for U.S. President.
    Just because the Dems slipped in an unworthy candidate doesn’t mean we can now lower the bar on our side.

  • Jeanmchambers

    LOL! Jim! Ask Obama ANY question without his tele prompters and he is a bafoon! That is, if they will let you ask Obama any questions they didn’t hand to you to ask. The man is so brainless, he needs a driver to tell him where the White House is!

    And to think, we, the American people, will have to pay for him for the REST OF OUR LIVES!!!

    By the way, Jim, you, are racist.

  • bg

    ++

    Beth #101 November 7, 2011 at 10:59 am

    why not watch & listen to the entire tape “in context”??

    but do continue calling me names or whatever, no skin off my back..

    God knows what the truth is..

    and heavens knows i am not afraid to speak mine..

    ==

  • Jeanmchambers

    Jim, it is obvious that this is nothing but a smear campaign. We ‘American citizens’ are not as stupid as the left would love to believe. They live in an Astro Turf world, one which they made up.

    Ask yourself, why do they need someone, not mentioned before, to come forward after XX years to say slanderous things? I’d like to investigate this person. Lets see her checking accounts? Why don’t they just have one of the two or three women ‘they’ told us who are just dying to spill the beans?? They are allowed now that the confidentiality claus has been lifted.

    What we have here is another low life Attorney being paid to slander Cain.

  • Gary

    Restless Legs
    Daryl

    I agree with both of you.
    (Daryl you must listen to Rush)

    But Newt isn’ it either. That guy is one big ball of disappointment. And the worst part is the buildup where you think he’s gonna go staunch conservative on them, but then he caves. Proven track record.
    Then there’s the couch with Pelosi (global warming) and the thing with Hillary.
    Then there’s the real stuff like his actual cheating on his wife (versus what is still speculation about Cain).
    Also I haven’t been impressed by Gingrich’s attempts to be the smartest guy in the room at the debates by calling questions mickey mouse and gotcha and explaining what the question is designed to do rather than answering it.
    Several of those comments came off as planned, like he was just waiting for a good question to use them on.

    As far as conservatism goes, Bachmann and Santorum have the best records, but they just can’t get a foothold. So either we conservatives aren’t really that great in number, or there are a lot of Other Than Conservatives participating in our polling.

  • bg

    ++

    Gary #99 November 7, 2011 at 10:59 am

    you missed the et al after Perry..

    you’ve also obviously missed several posts where i
    listed all of the names except for Huntsman the etc..

    ==

  • Gary

    Jeanmchambers

    I caution you on that optimism.
    This is typical media style buildup.
    They’re going to drag it out for a while for multiple reasons.
    1. If they release everything they have on Cain in one report, it’ll be short-lived and they’ll have to report on something else.
    2. If it blows over too quickly, it won’t have the desired effect of taking Cain out of the race. They need this story still going in the spring.

    So the great likelihood is we will start hearing the women come forward soon enough. Then this “where are these so-called accusers” argument that’s been floating around by Cain supporters will fall flat and they’ll have to move on to “I don’t believe one word of what she’s saying”. It’ll be a step-by-step battle where in all likelihood some wrongdoing is going to be exposed. That’s just how it works. If the media didn’t have more bombshells to drop, they’d have let the story die a quiet death last week.

    It’s just getting warmed up.

  • Gary

    bg

    You’re right about that.
    I didn’t read every post.

    Sorry for any confusion. But my point stands. Perry is all but out of the race. We don’t need any more Perry stories. He’s done.
    Cain is in the spotlight, thus Cain stories.
    Some will be good. Some will be bad.

  • EllieSue

    They don’t call us the stupid party for nothing. Romney 2012

  • daryl

    Radaronline
    New Woman (FOURTH, count ’em) Accusing Herman Cain Of Sexual Harassment
    Hires Gloria Allred

    “Woman, who will be the first to go public on Monday, sought Cain’s help with an employment issue and was allegedly sexually harassed by him. Allred and her client will discuss, in detail, what she alleges occurred with Cain.”

    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/11/new-woman-alleging-sexually-harassment-herman-cain-will-go-public-monday

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  • daryl

    #108
    Gary commented:
    (Daryl you must listen to Rush)

    Listening to him as we speak, uhh as we type, Gary.
    I don’t buy everything he puts on air but if you listen you will definitely be up to date with the latest news.

  • People who are invoking the “he’s better than Obama” standard need to upgrade their expectations. That standard is much too low. With a hostile news media and a nation so loaded with airheads, we need someone who is light years better than Obama. He’s the incumbent and people find him personally charming — plus, he’s politically cunning. I, too, have legit concerns about Cain’s ability to perform in a debate with Obama or face tough media questions. We can’t risk deer-in-the-headlights responses. I like the guy very much, but I find this “don’t dis my favorite guy” attitude here sickening. Leave the hero-worship politics and “I’m offended when you speak ill of my crush” junk to the lefties. We have a country to save.

  • porpiesmom

    i adore Cain…but god bless him…hes not ready…one of the biggest complaints about Obama during the election was he had no experience…cain has even less(govt)…the next few years our country is going to go thro hell…we need a strong leader who knows more than just business…again ithink at any other time he might be a good prez…with the horrible dangerous mess the man/child has left us….we have to have a warrior who can handle it…who that person is…i dunno yet…i know its not cain..and i know its not obama….

  • bg

    ++

    RUSH LIMBAUGH

    I got one. We have our Larry Flynt offer $50,000 for any news, any
    proof — quote, unquote ‘proof’ of sexual harassment at the Politco
    office. And we can win it because the rules have been established by
    Politico. The truth is whatever the accuser says.”

    ==

  • Gary

    That’s right SteveJ
    (see my #104)

  • daryl

    Speaking of Rush he just quoted GateWayPundit about one of this mornings topics.
    And some of you have the gall to bad mouth Jim Hoft.
    Forgive Herman for one rumor, then there’s two. Try to figure that out and then there’s a third.
    Now there’s four women who alleges he sexually harrassed them.

    Tex Ritter you-tube

    Well now there’s
    blood in the water,
    there’s blood on the ground
    great big puddles
    of blood all around

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKI21fdR7jg

  • bg

    ++

    RUSH LIMBAUGH

    Shame on Republicans Who Threw Herman Cain Under the Bus

    [So Herman Cain. The crazy notion here the truth might be its own best defense? The media can’t handle it. Here’s another way to analyze this: Herman Cain may not be a skilled liar, but you know what else I’ve noticed? He doesn’t retreat at the first sign of trouble.

    He doesn’t cave, he doesn’t whimper, he doesn’t disappear, he doesn’t hide — and I really mean this when I say, “Shame on the Republicans that piled on Herman when nobody knew the facts.” Nobody to this day knows the facts. But shame on those Republicans for treating Herman Cain — in the media and elected politics. All Republicans, all conservatives, if you are one of those who treated Herman Cain as though he was guilty just because of his unpracticed response to vague suggestions of legal or immoral or unethical behavior. If you caved just to look good to the mainstream media, if you piled on Herman Cain just so the rest of the mainstream media wouldn’t associate you with the ragtag conservatism you don’t like, then shame on you!

    Because here’s a promise that you can take to the bank. Every one of you Republicans — other nominees in the media, elected politics — you can take to the bank that your guy is going to be next. If they take out Herman Cain, whoever’s up next is gonna become the next target — and if you continue to accept without question whatever the mainstream media says about any of our candidates just to look good to them, just to curry favor with them (or just to appear as though you’re not as silly conservative as, say, Limbaugh and the talk show guys are), you’re eventually gonna be next, or the guy you support is gonna be next; and for you to be consistent, you’re gonna have to throw him overboard as well. When that happens, when it’s your guy that’s the subject of innuendo and anonymous details, you’re going to wish that you had Herman Cain and his backers to fight back alongside you.

    You’re gonna need all hands on deck, because what this is with Cain is nothing compared to what’s coming. What we’re in the middle of here is a test to see just how frightened Republicans can be made at the first sign of trouble; and way too high a percentage of establishment Republicans failed the test. I know what some of you will say. “Look, we’re conservatives. Family values, all that! We can’t be seen defending a guy about who it is said might have sexually harassed a woman.” Wait until you know that he did before you throw him under the bus! Ninety-nine percent of establishment Republicans failed this test. Now, there’s a plus side. The plus side is the American people still support and like Herman Cain. It doesn’t mean he’s gonna get their votes, but he has their support in this instance.

    I guess there are a large number of people on our side, folks, who are never going to understand or never going to accept that we are in a war with collectivists and other assorted parasites who want to destroy the US economy as currently built — and if you show any kind of weakness, they come back at you in greater numbers. (See Oakland if you have any questions.) There was more patience for the O.J. Simpson verdict than there has been for Herman Cain. You want to talk about a rush to judgment? Politico, which consists of mainly left-wing stenographers from the Washington Post who started their own website so as to protect the Post name — stenographers for the Obama regime — they run around, they attack a man everybody says is a good and decent guy, who has flaws like all the rest of us.

    Republican blogs (some of them) and Ruling Class chatter abandon Herman Cain quicker than a carton of milk past its expiration date. Just like they did Newt. What did Newt do? Newt went out, bought his wife an expensive but affordable necklace, and he’s accused of being incapable of managing money. This was the guy most responsible for delivering budget surpluses and balanced budgets not that many years ago. As I look at this week, it hasn’t been all that good for Republican unity or courage. There’s gonna be a nominee. One of these Republicans is going to be the nominee, and whoever it is is head and shoulders above Barack Obama and anybody else the Democrats could throw up in replacement if they decide to do that.

    And we might want to keep that in mind, since the election is a year away and the primaries are right around the corner. All this sloppy partisan gotcha reporting should have gotten 99% derision from establishment Republicans. That didn’t happen, but there will be other opportunities for our side to show a little fortitude. I understand the fear. I understand the reluctance. “Oh, gosh, what if it’s true? (sigh) I gotta really protect myself here. I’ve gotta make sure that I don’t say the wrong thing here so, this is really true, they can’t come back and say I defended the guy. So what’s the safest thing to do? Condemn him! Yep, it’s the safest thing. He’s not gonna be nominee anyway, so I’ll just condemn him, and I’ll show in a reverse racism way that I’m really not a racist like the left says. I’ll show I’m not just supporting the guy ’cause he’s black. I’ll really show ’em how smart I am! I’ll show ’em how well rounded I am; I’ll show ’em how open-minded I am. I’ll show the left,” and I don’t care what you want to “show the left.” When that’s your motivation for remaining credible, you lose it all with me.]

    more @ link..

  • bg

    ++

    RUSH LIMBAUGH

    “the woman’s lawyer said he no longer has the file,” doesn’t have the case file, he doesn’t have “the confidentiality agreement. He said that he doesn’t even remember the name of the Association official who his client accused,” meaning he didn’t even remember it was Herman Cain! “He said he doesn’t remember going to the Association offices ever to handle this matter. He thinks the matter might have been handled over fax and phone quite expeditiously,”

    ==

  • Ginger

    I went back to October 27th and I found:

    25…………Hit pieces on Mr. Cain

    0…………. On Romney……… No mention of “Romney Care”

    0…………On Perry…………….and their were dozens of links that sent people to show

    how corrupted Perry is!

  • Ginger

    The 25…hit pieces on Mr. Cain is just Gateway Pundits!

  • bg

    ++

    forget intelligence..

    where are posts in defense of Cain??

    because anyone who is, at the very least, honest
    with themselves, knows there should be at least
    a few pro Cain posts..

    ==

  • Ginger

    Alveda King this morning said that Jessie Jackson is a civil “wrong” leader.

  • daryl

    And all of that cutting and pasting is worthless because when Cain’s latest victim and Gloria Allred (victim’s lawyer for those who don’t know) get through with their 1:30pm presser today poor old cornbread will have had it. Stick a fork in him, he’s done.
    This guy Cain, if these stories are true, must have used to act like the old cock-of-the-walk Red Rooster in the Denny’s commercial. Any little hen was fair game to him then and now they want their revenge for the way they were treated.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3fNJzy-n7M

  • Interesting

    Some seem to think Cain cannot do the job, others, that he will learn along the way all he needs to know.

    That appears to be the problem.

    I haven’t seen what the US NEEDS (in experience and economic/conservative viewpoint) step up to the plate. Obviously those who could do the job don’t want it (probably due to the attack-dog press and what they have to go through to get the position).. so OF THOSE WHO ARE RUNNING, you have to say that the one who most embodies the tea party position – a real American – is Cain.

    In an ideal world, there would be a George Washington and Ronald Reagan in every ballot choice for President. The reality is, there are many ho-hum Presidents whose names are not even remembered, like Obama will be (he accomplished nothing for the history books beyond being male and black).

    We have to work with what we are given.. and frankly, so far.. the best is Herman Cain. As pointed out, he can learn. With Newt as VP I think the country would have the bases covered. He would hardly declare war unilaterally as Obama did with the Libya debacle. His character is trustworthy THAT much, for sure.

  • bg

    ++

    Ginger #123 November 7, 2011 at 11:54 am

    wrong, there were a couple of pro-Perry hit pieces on Romney..

    ie: Gov. Rick Perry Drops the Romneycare Bomb

    several other Romney hits pieces..

    ie: Romneycare

    ie: Romneycare

    and albeit you tried, also too many to count pro-Perry posts..

    ==

  • daryl

    “Stick a fork in him, he’s done.”

    Not only for his run at the presidency but any hope he might have had aat grabbing a berth as vice president.

  • bg

    ++

    re: the ALL RED sham

    my prediction, again..

    BIG TIME BACKFIRE!! 🙂

    ==

  • Obamas regulation destroy jobs

    I’m not voting for him at all–he is a BSer..and I’m sick of this drama on the news.Its embarrassing to our Country.Haven’t we had enough with the Clinton’s, the Obama’s Lying, coke habits, Obama embarrassing America making rude slick comments,i.e. misspelled words, “everybody has to have some skin in the game”??? Gee..can’t we get someone with CLASS and Integrity??? Sexual Harassment this would be another Mayor Barry man oh man–I didnt vote for Obama and I will not VOTE for this CLOWN….

  • bg

    ++

    daryl #130 November 7, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    you have said that so many times,
    i seriously feel compelled to ask..

    is that you Bernie??

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    #132 November 7, 2011 at 12:37 pm
    Obamas regulation destroy jobs

    CLOWN FAQ

    With Cain at the helm as CEO in 1998, the association
    created a video to explain sexual harassment laws to its
    members – and created a sample sexual harassment policy
    for individual restaurants to use, according to a Chicago
    Tribune story at the time.

    CLOWN FAQ

    Restaurant industry complaints made up a significant portion of
    the total sexual harassment claims: In fiscal 1997, for example,
    restaurants saw 1,481 complaints out of 15,889 — 9.3 percent
    of the nationwide total.

    Anita Hill’s charges brought a “heightened awareness” to the issue of
    sexual harassment, said David Scher, a sexual-harassment lawyer at
    The Employment Law Group law firm.

    When it came to litigation and bad publicity, Scher said,
    the restaurant industry “faced some of the worst of it.”

    CLOWN FAQ

    Industry officials saw it coming — none other than Cain himself warned as long ago as 1991 that changes in federal law resulting from the hearings could cause problems for employers.

    “This bill opens the door for opportunists who will use the legislation to make some money,” Cain, then CEO of Godfather’s Pizza, told Nation’s Restaurant News. “I’m certainly for civil rights, but I don’t know if this bill is fair because of what we’ll have to spend to defend ourselves in unwarranted cases.”

    ==

  • Gary

    This is one case where I begrudgingly break with Rush. I think Rush is taking attacks on Cain as attacks on Conservatism and going at it that way.
    I can separate the two.
    Yes, Cain is conservative.
    Yes, this is largely a liberal smear.

    So why am I not on the Cain bandwagon on this issue?
    Simple. He has said enough to make me think that something happened and has said no more. The facts don’t add up for multiple women to give up jobs where they rub elbows with the CEO for a paltry five figures. It’s a year’s pay or less and they have to scrub the job from their resumes. If they were on the job more than 6 months, that’s a hard thing to do. So what were their motives all those years ago in taking termination settlements? Did the company fire them for complaining about sexual harassment or for feeling uncomfortable?
    If we follow Cain’s logic, it’s this:

    Cain: “You’re about my wife’s height.”
    Lady: “I’m uncomfortable.”
    NRA: “We’re going to give you five figures to drop this, but you’re also fired.”
    Lady: “Deal.”

    Does that make sense to anybody else? For a person who works up close and personally with the CEO?
    And now there are four separate women/cases.

    Cain, air this thing out. Have a Weiner style press conference, but admit everything.
    Then we’ll see where we stand on your politics.

    Or try to wait it out and watch your numbers fizzle as all but your most ardent supporters change their minds about you.

  • Gary

    Also Rush’s take is on the hypocrisy of the left in giving Clinton a pass on alleged rape versus going after Cain on alleged sexual harassment.
    Agree with El Rushbo on that point.

    But previous point still stands.

  • bg

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    Gary #135 November 7, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    Rush is standing on the PRINCIPLE of the FACTS..

    Cain really has little has to do with it..

    it could have been any Republican candidate..

    a WRONG is a WRONG is a WRONG, period

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  • bg

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    Gary #135 November 7, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    you want to talk making sense..

    sense me this:

    “SHE DOES NOT REMEMBER THE SPECIFIC ALLEGATIONS, OR
    WHAT KIND OF SETTLEMENT THEY EVENTUALLY REACHED.” 🙄

    and this:

    “the woman’s lawyer said he no longer has the file,” doesn’t have the case file, he doesn’t have “the confidentiality agreement. He said that he doesn’t even remember the name of the Association official who his client accused,” meaning he didn’t even remember it was Herman Cain! “He said he doesn’t remember going to the Association offices ever to handle this matter. He thinks the matter might have been handled over fax and phone quite expeditiously,” 😯

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  • bg

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    Rush re: Cain

    mish-mash..

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  • bg

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    clarification re: #139 November 7, 2011 at 1:14 pm bg

    what Rush is saying about what others are saying about Cain..

    well, aside from ABSURD anyways.. 😉

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  • bg

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    Deanna #97 November 7, 2011 at 10:45 am

    wow, succinct, nice, thank you..

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  • bg

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    RUSH LIMBAUGH – November 7, 2011

    The Cain Story Gets More Ridiculous

    [Every day we all are made to feel uncomfortable by something. I would be afraid to complain how many times I’m uncomfortable! For crying out loud, that’s the whole point: A nation of whiners and complainers who want to be paid for it — for being offended or being made to feel uncomfortable — but so what? By what, Mr. Martin? What the hell…? The problem here is that that is not a “fact.” Not yet! That’s an accusation. “Yes, I was made to feel very uncomfortable.” She “was brought upon by Cain in a hotel room”? What does that mean, “brought upon”? Brought to the hotel room? You know, we older, crusty conservatives, we name our victims: Kathleen Willey, Juanita Broaddrick, Monica Lewinsky, we name ’em — and they say we don’t do reporting? We find out the names, we find out where the semen-stained blue dress is, and then we tell everybody about it. We don’t deal in innuendo, we crusty old, hardened conservatives who only care about provocation and our younger brethren who are more interested in reporting are still in diapers. F. Chuck Todd is worried that Herman Cain’s strategery is working. This morning on MSNBC’s Daily Rundown…

    TODD: (silly music) None of the women who have accused him have gone public. And without an aggrieved party disputing his version of events, Cain has avoided the “he said, she said” situation. So while wildly criticized by the media and some establishment Republicans, Cain’s response strategy seems to be working for now. Anybody else getting flashbacks to Bill Clinton? Remember all of those charges were supposed to take him down in ’91, ’92. It eventually made him stronger.

    RUSH: Oh, really? So now this is gonna make Cain stronger? What made Clinton stronger was you guys! That’s made Clinton stronger. Clinton lied about it at the first, he denied it. None of it ever happened ’til Gennifer Flowers had the tapes and Monica Lewinsky had the dress. They marveled at his lies. They marveled at how clever he was able to lie to ’em. They were impressed; they were dazzled. They begged him to lie even more to him, they were so impressed by it — and I thought Herman Cain didn’t have a strategy! I thought David Gregory told us on Friday that was a big thing that really shocked the media and ticked ’em off, that Cain didn’t have a strategy.]

    re: #137 November 7, 2011 at 12:58 pm bg

    really has little has to = really has little to

    oh btw: why should we believe there’s an alleged 4th woman,
    when we do not even know who the 1st alleged woman was??

    STUPID ‘R’ US – and trust me, after what’s gone
    down so far, they’re totally banking on it.. *sigh*

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  • lynched1

    Little touchy Jim? lol

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