Rick Perry Continues to Oppose DREAM Act and Sanctuary Cities

John Hawkins at Right Wing News interviewed Governor Rick Perry this week on immigration issues. If you’re wondering where Rick Perry stands, you will have a better idea after reading this interview.
Here is part of that discussion:

The real question becomes what can we expect from Rick Perry on the issue if he becomes President? That question had yet to be answered — until today. I was pleased to get an opportunity to do an in-depth written interview with Rick Perry that covers his position on illegal immigration. If you’re wondering where Rick Perry stands, after reading this interview, you will know.

1. You supported the Texas version of the DREAM ACT which incidentally, was very popular in your state. It passed 27-3 in the Senate and 130-2 in the House. However, you would not support the DREAM ACT nationally if you became President of the United States. Why is that?

The federal DREAM Act is an amnesty bill, and I strongly oppose amnesty. The Texas educational residency bill was vastly different.

Because the federal government has failed in its basic duty to protect our borders, states are forced to deal with illegal immigrant issues.

In Texas, we had to deal with the children of illegal immigrants residing in our state and attending our schools, as the federal government requires states to educate these children through the public school system. Lawmakers in Texas – indisputably one of the most conservative states in America – were virtually unanimous in their decision.

The Legislature determined the payment of in-state college tuition is available to all students who have lived in Texas for at least three years and graduated from a public high school. If you meet those requirements, you pay in-state tuition, whether you relocated from Oklahoma, Idaho, Canada or Mexico. The only difference is that Texas residents who aren’t documented must be on the path to pursue U.S. citizenship to be allowed to pay in-state tuition.

There were a number of reasons the bill received widespread support among conservatives. Importantly, it has never had a cost to Texas taxpayers. In fact, our institutions of higher learning would actually lose tens of millions of dollars in lost tuition payments if the law were repealed.

And it would lower the odds that these students would receive subsidized health care or end up in prison. Protecting taxpayers was a serious concern, given that a Supreme Court decree already requires taxpayers to pay for K-12 education for undocumented students.

3. Now you worked to outlaw sanctuary cities in Texas. Tell us why that is.

I called for abolishing sanctuary cities in my last State of the State address, and made it an emergency item for the Legislature. I’m a firm believer in giving law enforcement the discretion they need to do their job. Sanctuary city policies handcuff law enforcement officers in order to further a political agenda.

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  • http://www.benbarrack.com Barrackaid

    Sorry, short of Perry putting the sanctuary cities bill on the Special Session agenda, he did NOTHING to help push it through. I mean nothing.

    Grocery store magnate Charles Butt and Developer Bob Perry (no relation) threw their weight around and every Republican leader (House speaker Joe Straus, Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst) all pointed fingers at someone else.

    It was a collective failure that Perry was very much part of.

  • terrekaine

    Look at what Perry does, not what he says.

  • End The Obama Nation

    Anybody who refuses to strictly enforce our immigration laws can forget about getting my vote.

  • Finncrisp

    Passing bad law in response to bad policy institutionalizes bad policy. I fail to see why an out of state citizen has to get in line behind an instate illegal for higher education. Adults make bad choices all the time that affect their children. Why are we adopting nanny state rules specifically to free illegal adults from responsibuility to thier children for entering this country illegally?

    The Texas legislature was unannimously wrong on this one.

  • http://www.benbarrack.com Barrackaid

    Folks, I watched what Perry did during the Special session from a front row seat. Tough sanctuary cities legislation was the ONLY emergency item he identified at the start of the regular session that hadn’t been addressed.

    He put it on the agenda during the special and SKIPPED TOWN. He wanted nothing to do with it.

    When two of Texas’ wealthiest men (Charles Butt and Bob Perry) sent a letter to Governor Perry and the Republicans threatening to withhold contributions if the bill passed, it died.

  • Bill Mitchell

    And why didn’t he just say all of THAT during the debates?

    See, this is the problem people have with Rick Perry. It’s not his positions, but that he simply does not appear very bright and light on his feet in a stressful situation. People aren’t worried about his politics, they are worried about his gray matter.

  • http://www.benbarrack.com Barrackaid

    #6 Bill Mitchell,

    There’s plenty wrong with his politics too.

  • retire05

    Barrackaid, do you think you can speak as an “informed” Texan and there will be no other Texans to take you on? You tipped your hat, bubba. The people who gathered in Austin and sat in the gallery during the last special session were the people that Alex Jones, TRUTHER Alex Jones, rallied along with Debra Medina’s little monthly session bunch. Oh, yeah, I got the email to show up in Austin just like you did from a friend who goes to Medina’s house every month.

    It was Charles Butt, Jr. that threw his weight around. He knew that he could get Joe Strauss (who Butt, Jr. donates heavily to) to table the sanctuary city bill and Strauss did not disappoint. Now, since you seem to want to present yourself as an “informed” Texan, perhaps you can tell everyone what recourse a governor in the State of Texas has to force a bill through when the Speaker of the House tables it?

    Perry also placed the anti-TSA bill back into special session after Dewhurst managed to get that bill killed in the regular session. Why was Dewhurst allowing the TSA representatives to work our Congressmen in the halls of the capitol? Dewhurst folded like a cheap suit when he got the letter from the TSA. And now he wants to replace KBH? I don’t think so. He needs to go back to ranching, roping and take Strauss with him.

    Get over yourself. Medina lost because she is a kook. Alex Jones is simply seeking his 15 minutes of fame because no one knew who the hell he was until he became a 9-11 truther.

    Perry wanted the anti-sanctuary city bill. He ran his last campaign telling Texans he would push for it. Joslyn Johnson backed him over Bill White, her boss, because she also wanted that bill. If you are mad at anyone you should be picketing in front of David Dewhurst and Joe Strauss’s offices.


    perry is NOT the answer…any politician that agrees with giving illegals a free pass should be kicked out of politics…what does the word ILLEGAL mean……

  • Mark1957

    A big drop in poll numbers and he will tell you what ever you want to hear. Screw you Perry, I pick Herman Cain.

  • KLD

    #3 Out of state students are subject to the same laws as everyone else. They have to establish residency, unless there is a reciprocity agreement between the States.

    I think his views make sense, and they see the picture. Whether we like it or not, illegals are here, and they aren’t going to be mass deported. Not by Romney, not by Bachman regardless what they say“and they know it, nor will they build a fence. The logistics of that are not feasible, the practicality isn’t there. In-State tuition addresses kids who were brought here through no fault of their own, they grew up American. They are probably more ‘American’ than some born and bred here, from American born parents, i.e. Michael Moore, the Wall Street Day of Ragers and so on.
    Texas, and Perry, are acting within Federal Law–they have to educate illegal kids. They expand, pragmatically to say these kids are here, we had to send them through school, let them have in-state tuition – like any other resident of the state (this isn’t equated with citizenship, it’s address driven) , with the condition that they are pursuing citizenship, make them productive member’s of society. They aren’t going anywhere, and that’s better than supporting them on Welfare, or in Prison. Try to make the best out of a less than ideal situation. That makes more sense than pipe dreams of mass deportation.
    And yes let’s get these border truly secure. That doesn’t mean you ignore the illegals already here, but stop the flow first as a priority, then we can turn our fuller attention to those here. If you have water gushing from your pipes, what do you do first? Fix the hole, or turn off the water? Personally, I’d turn off the water, then clean up the mess. Anything else would be like shoveling snow in a blizzard.
    Why didn’t he say all this in the debate? He touched on it, with Santorum screaming at him, I believe. This interview wasn’t an Ah! moment. He’d touched on it before.
    Reagan wasn’t perceived as the brightest crayon in the box, either. But he was practical, and thoughtful.

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  • SeniorD

    Sanctuary Cities, as opposed to Sanctuary ‘locations’ such as churches, steals money from resident taxpayers to provide the illegals shelter, food, clothing, etc. This is a local ordinance and has power only within the city limits. Thus, the illegals get a nice, safe home from which they cannot be removed or deported on the taxpayers dime.

    The Semi-Professional Politicians at the local level know the electorate’s hot buttons and will pander to one side or the other to get their votes to keep the Semi-Pros in office and, more importantly, keep the money rolling into their coffers.

  • Campfollower

    I love Gateway Pundit, but not sure why he continues to support Perry. The fact that he was Al Gore’s campaign chair in Texas a decade ago ITSELF disqualifies him in my mind to be a Republican nominee.

    Think about it. The man supported AL GORE!!!! NO FRIGGING WAY!

  • retire05

    The purists, who think that if they can just get their candidate in the Oval Office, will produce a “round them all up and deport them” policy. It will never happen. There is not ONE candidate who is going to do that. And the Department of Homeland Security has already made it clear that they will not go after illegals who have no other criminal history other than entering our nation illegally.

    So what do these purists think the authority is for border state governors to control and deport illegals? When local sheriffs and police departments do arrest these illegals, they are turned over to ICE, taken in front of an immigration judge who lets them go with an order to appear in court a month later. The illegal is back on the street and long gone, never to see the inside of that court room again. City, county and state judges do not have authority over immigration cases. More’s the pity.

    So I want to know what those who are slamming Perry because the legislature decided it would be better to have the children of illegals (of which 77% are born in the U.S.) in college than being recruited by the Mexican drug cartels, suggest that border state governors do. You see, it is hypocritical to demand solutions when you, yourself, don’t have any that would pass legal muster.

    Rick Perry vetoed a bill that would have allowed illegals to get driver’s licenses in Texas. The bill was not passed by a veto proof majority, so he could do that, unlike Sarah Palin’s Alaska which is one of the states that do give driver’s licenses to illegals. Mitt Romney supported amnesty (like abortion) before he was against it to run to the right of John McCain. Perhaps that is why Mittens had no problem hiring illegals. Herman Cain has never had to deal with the problem and frankly, words do not allow him to understand the reality that border governors deal with every day. I doubt Herman Cain has ever been to the border.

    Rick Santorum is a petulant child, who is running from his own legislation that mirrored Rick Perry’s border security plan. When he said he had been to the border, it was the border of California/Mexico where there is a fence that has been tunneled under more times than you can count. What a hypocrite.

  • retire05

    Campfollower, why do you continue to push a false meme? Perry was NEVER Al Gore’s Texas campaign manager. Gore did NOT have a Texas campaign manager. The two men that spearheaded support for Al Gore that year were Gib Lewis and Bill Hobby who did not want Michael Dukakis because Dukakis was too far left and Gore was considered the “conservative” in the Democrat primary.

    Continuing to push the same lie over and over again doesn’t make it any more true.

  • listingstarboard

    I like Rick Perry, he is what he is. Romney is a disaster, he would be a huge mistake. If you want to see the Obama administration investigated for their role in F &F, Pigford, Black Panthers, Freddie and Fannie and all of the numerous corrupt,fraudulent and immoral acts they have committed we need someone like Perry. Romney will never go after Obama once in office. Do you think Cain would?

  • workingclass artist

    “Sorry, short of Perry putting the sanctuary cities bill on the Special Session agenda, he did NOTHING to help push it through. I mean nothing.”

    That is WRONG….Joe Strauss tabled the bill.

    It’s impossible to put the answers to these issues in 30 sec. – 1 minute soundbites on a debate stage….and voters know it. These issues deserve discussion. None of the other candidates can mach Perry on experience or knowledge of the issue which is why all they did was spin and attack misleading voters.

    Great interview by Gov. Perry. Thanks for posting it.

    Gig Em’
    Perry 2012

  • Formerly known as Skeptic

    “…Texas residents who aren’t documented must be on the path to pursue U.S. citizenship to be allowed to pay in-state tuition.”

    This is the part I still do not understand. What are the requirements in the Texas law to prove this? I was unaware that there even WAS a path to pursue U.S. citizenship for someone here illegally other than leaving and applying to immigrate legally. Anyone have any answers?

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