Ron Paul Booed at CNN-Tea Party Debate After Blaming US for 9-11 Attacks (Video)

Blaming the US for the 9-11 attacks is still an unpopular position–
Rep. Ron Paul blamed the US for the 9-11 attacks again tonight. He also claimed the US has been “bombing Iraq” for 10 years.
Sick.
Good for Rick Santorum for confronting the representative… And, good for the crowd for booing him.

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  • FurryGuy

    The more Doctor Paul speaks, the more he sounds like Doctor Doolittle. The man is totally out of his depth.

    He may have some ideas and policies that make sense, but his general buffoonery far outweighs them.

  • Roscoe

    FurryGuy commented: ” ……………but his general buffoonery far outweighs them.”

    Buffoon, that is a handle that fits him well !!!!

  • WMInfidel

    There goes Uncle Crazy in the Attic again. I’ll be truly impressed when one of the candidates states the obvious: Islam is the enemy.

  • lol

    santorum did a good job exposing paul. he has the same liberal mind set that our policies are why we were attacked on 9-11 as the libtards currently running our country.

  • Ron

    Stick a fork in him, he’s done. Now bring it on Paulians.

  • Saçi

    Hahaha Ron Paul is awesome!

    You guys seriously believe that we were attacked because of who we are and what we stand for? Because of Freedom and oppotunity? You gotta be joking me guys…no one would attack anyone because we’re free and prosperous lmao.

    Ron speaks truth when he says “As long as this country follows that idea, we’re gonna be in a lot of danger.”
    He speaks the truth. It was our actions that brought upon the attacks of the United States.

  • Neo

    “bombing Iraq” for 10 years caused 9/11 ? That’s the ticket.
    Let’s thank Ron Paul for making the 9/11 — Iraq connection that justified the Iraq War.
    Calling this man an “idiot” would be an afront to all other idiots.

  • donh

    That is a stunning break down. I Like how Wolf went in for the kill line ” thank you congressman ” when Ron started to drip saliva on his lapel. Ron must be getting his campaign cash from Mahmood Akmedinijad. Very embarassing for the party . Ron makes Perot’s VP James Stockdale look competant…. http://youtu.be/R6n5OQVzVVQ

  • Valerie

    President Clinton bombed Iraq? I bet he was surprised to hear that.

  • Jack

    “buffoonery” – wtf you are clearly ignorant of Dr Paul’s message, the consistency of his message and the inherent, clear logic of it. Dr Paul is the only candidate that has actually stuck by his principles – all the more impressive considering how long he’s been expressing them, as opposed to Romney & Perry being Republican only to the extent that there is an R after their names on the ballot paper (both prescribing inconsistently to elements of collectivist ideology), while Bachman gets more media attention than Ron Paul despite 1) consistently scoring worse in the polls (even nearly losing to him in her home state of Iowa!) 2) being inconsistent in her views from day to day and 3) quite possibly being insane.
    In contrast to his competitors (a mixture of polygamists, democrat-republicans and just plain inconsistent politicians) Ron Paul is the only rational candidate whose primary message is that, just as the founding fathers saw: (and Perry, Romney and Bachman demonstrate) government CANNOT be trusted to do as good a job collectively as individuals can achieve on their own with a minimal level of intervention. Economic fact (re Hayek, Friedman and Rand) supports this undeniably.

  • gus

    Hey LIBTARD. Why did BIN LADEN and 19 suicidal MUZZTARDS attack us??

    I’d love to hear you retarded answer.

  • john

    Come one, we have been bombing Iraq since 1991.. Desert Storm + no-fly zone… But no, Rick Santorum is right – people want to kill us because Americans are free. Has nothing to do with America bombing the hell out of countries and killing tens of thousands of people. We are so ignorant.

  • gus

    What never ceases to amaze me, is the level of stupidy those who follow Ron Paul display. If you cannot see the guy is a nut. You are probably a nut.

  • gus

    John, who were we bombing in 93 you blubbering idiot. 94? 95? 96? John take a bath. You stink.

  • gus

    I thought IRAQ

  • nick

    i can see the guy who wrote this and most of the people who posted here are those kids that failed even the special ed classes. bill clinton did bomb iraq it happened dec 1998 and the operation was called Operation Desert Fox and it was a major four-day bombing campaign on Iraqi targets from December 16–19, 1998 by the United States and United Kingdom. god you people are f’ing retarded fact check your self before you make comments.

  • Gabe

    Ron Paul is right. We have been in the middle east for decades, supporting Israel. Who by the way are massacring the palestinians. If i were from the middle east I’d want to bomb America too. You guys need to wake up. People don’t attack other people because they’re jealous of their freedom. But you know what? The majority of americans are stupid like the majority of the post on this page. And thats why we will elect another bad president. And thats why america will continue to fail. A republican won’t get us out of this. This is a lie we’ve told ourselves. Until WE wake up and stop electing people that can bought out by lobbyist and support the war machine america is we will continue to go down and down and eventually if we don’t change we will die, as a nation. Ron Paul for change you can believe in. All the other candidates if you want to have your ears tickled.

  • gus

    I thought Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. John-boy. Why wasn’t Bin Laden bombing Iraq for attacking Iran and Kuwait?? You’re a clown son.

  • What an utter tool Paul is. This is NOT the leadership this country needs.
    He is no better then Obama’s apology minions!

  • donh

    Look a lot of people question Iraq policy, but did you listen to the video clip ??? Ron QUOTES Al Quaida as a source to support his belief system.. He’s on the same page as Krugman. This is an Admirale Stockdale moment if there ever was one… http://youtu.be/uKpX-5jQjQ0

  • gus

    Yes GABE-TARD, it’s Israel MASSACRING Palitards. WTF is wrong with you son. I know, you are backward, and dirty like the PALS.

  • Craig

    Sorry for the duplicata, but my comment shoul have been on this post. So here it is again:

    Craig commented:
    Just another lousy debate. I thought, since the Tea Party was there, that it would be a notche better. But no. The Tea Party which was started by Ron Paul was great at the time , but since, it was hyjacked by the neocons, it is now disgusting.

    I felt so ashame for your country when they booed Ron Paul for telling the truth about wars. You people really enjoy killing innocent people in other countries. Do you have any idea how many innocent people you killed in other countries in the overall with all your illegal wars? Don’t you know how it feels to lose a loved one? Don’t you care for no one but yourselves?

    Death of innocent people has become just as irrelevant as a video killing game to you. You have lost your ways and you souls. You have no respect for live whatsoever and you dare call yourself conservatives????

    Let’s say, just for the sake of it, that the official story of 9/11 was real… just for the sake of it (cause 9/11 is an inside job), but just for the sake of it. That would mean that 3,000 innocent Americans have been killed, just because these terrorists hated the US goverment policies. Do you think it would be okay for them to kill innocent people? You would be upset, wouldn’t you? Of course you would and you were, since you approved 2 wars because of that. You seeked for revenge and you think that other countries wouldn’t seek for revenge when you invade their countries? Boy, your double standards really keeps you blind to reality. Get real here! Dear God, please wake them up! Please!

  • gus

    What authority did Bin Laden have to intentionally kill thousands. Who does he represent??

    AMERICAN LIBTARDS IS your answer.

  • Conservative Ken

    Ron Paul has a split personality

    The Ron Paul who carefully chooses his words because he’s running for President.

    The Schizo Ron Paul you hear on the Alex Jones show. (Twilight Zone theme playing in the background)

  • Terry in GA

    Ron Paul left me with my mouth hanging open and my eyes rolling around in my head trying to catch their balance. He has always had a “wild streak” that I didn’t like, but tonight was a doozie of a rant. At least I wasn’t the only person appalled at his tirade.

    Rick Perry had a couple of snags tonight, in my opinion. The HPV issue is bad enough that he mandated a drug for every young girl without any option for parents, but the underlying issues of his Chief of Staff going to work lobbying for Merck (no matter the campaign donation amount) is probably even worse. I’d love to see someone follow the money on that back-room arrangement.

    Illegal immigration and the in-state tuition deal in Texas will be an issue for Perry. Issuing driver’s licenses to illegal aliens (in several states – including Utah) and the problems associated with failure to maintain auto insurance will be issues. I’m anxious to see these topics as they go forward.

    Social Security, Obamacare, etc. are huge and major problems. Social Security cannot be sustained as it currently exists. Well, come to think of it, I can remember this being an issue as far back as the Reagan/Carter campaign. In each election cycle, the issue is raised as a future bomb waiting to explode, but after the elections someone waters down the fiery fuse so as to quiet the threat. But a temporary delay is not a permanent solution. Regardless of who likes or dislikes reform ideas, something must be done. Obamacare is an even more outrageous disaster in waiting.

    Just a side comment — my mother (78, breast cancer survivor, mylodisplasia, etc.), received orders for a new prescription today. The doctor warned her of the possibility of a $4,000 copay — not a typo — but promised to find a way to help her get the needed medication. New drugs are great, there is truly unlimited potential for medical breakthroughs and curing diseases, and medical research shows major progress, but what research company will continue to make the massive investments needed for new cures with Obamacare regulations?

    Greta had Sarah tonight, then Newt. Newt praised Sarah’s speech in Iowa concerning crony capitalism, even remarking that he had tweeted a comment linking that speech and that he has plans to do something further on the issues she raised. He commented with high regard on how she had hit the nail on the head and these are exactly the issues important to Americans. Also, sanctuary city policies and/or failure/refusal to enforce federal immigration laws, should be automatic disqualifiers for federal funds of any kind. Individual taxpayers throughout the nation should not be required to pay taxes to the federal government to be laundered through to states who refuse to play by the rules.

  • gus

    Craig. You need to check yourself in son. You are a nut.

  • Valerie

    #6 September 12, 2011 at 9:38 pm
    Saçi commented:

    Actually, that’s exactly what the Hamas Covenant says. Since at least 1988 the Islamist terrorists have engaged in an advertising campaign to convince Muslims that they have a religious duty to kill any non-Muslim who so much as visits any piece of land that was ever held by a “Muslim” regime.

    Most Muslims, of course, do not embrace this nonsense. They require a reason to kill others. Because neither we nor the Jews have acted in a manner to upset decent Muslims, Hamas has been reduced to making up atrocities. And that’s exactly what they do: they manufacture atrocities. That’s what the fauxtography scandals were all about: Islamist terrorists manufacturing atrocities.

  • Nospam

    “Hundreds of thousands” of Iraqis killed by American bombing before 9-11? Wow. Even the Lancet doesn’t give that high a death total for the whole Second Gulf War 2003-2010.
    Does “Doctor” Paul have any actual data on that or is he just living in his own antiAmerican fantasy world again?
    PS- Bin Laden himself said that he attacked America because he viewed us as the “weak horse” and Islam as the “strong horse”; people would follow the strong horse and there would be no retaliation.
    THANK YOU, Ron Paul supporters, for wanting to make America into the weak horse again… so we can be attacked again and again. THANK YOU for wanting to have unlimited Americans murdered.

  • johneverymann

    I wonder how many wars all the people who were boooing have been in? Hey the soldiers seem to love Ron Paul. I would say the people fighting and dying in the wars, Opinions count the most. Sometimes the truth upsets me too. Just ask yourself who do so many servicemen love this guy?

  • gus

    Why do Sunni’s kill shiites and Vice versa, you drooling libtard morons???

  • Andrew

    ‘They want to kill us for who we are and what we stand for; and we stand for American exceptionalism, for freedom and opportunity around the world.’

    Seriously?

  • gus

    Ask yourself. Most servicemen think Ron Paul is a nut. You’re just to stupid to see it. Seriously. You guys are nuts.

  • Craig

    Just in Libya right now, not only you bombed them, but now you are beheading them.

    Former US Congressman: ‘I Saw NATO Troops Behead Libyans’
    http://www.infowars.com/former-congressman-i-saw-nato-troops-behead-libyans/

  • gus

    Yes the SAUDI’S and EGYPTIANS that attacked on 9/11 were angry because we bombed them.

    Put the bongs down LIBTARDS. Grow the fvck up you driveling idiots.

  • gus

    Craig is about as big a loon as it gets.

  • FurryGuy

    #35 September 12, 2011 at 10:02 pm
    gus commented:

    Craig is about as big a loon as it gets.

    A Canadian Loon even.

  • Would you call what Ron said, a Biden moment…..It,s time for the assisted living home for the both of them. It’s hard to tell the difference between senile and just plain crazy…..

  • MamaGrizzly

    Paul was a total jerk to say that Santorum blames the Moslem people as a whole . . . ugh. Ron Paul is totally delusional (and I’m talking in the clinical sense). Hey, he keeps referring to himself as a doctor–but HOW LONG AGAIN, HAS HE NOT PRACTICED MEDICINE . . . and WHY? Hmmmm?

    Here, I’ll be Ron Paul: “What I’m SICK OF is (blah blah blah). I’m sick of. I’m sick of. I’m sick of.” Whine, whine, whine.

    Well, I’m sick of Ron Paul being “sick of . . . ”

    Oh, and the churches will take care of EVERYTHING. Oh yeah, sure. Guess it was different in the 30’s.

    ——–

    Santorum/Gingrich/Romney/Bachman = EACH WOULD MAKE A GOOD PRESIDENT.

    ———

    Perry = faker/opportunist
    Paul = nut case who can sure be “sick of . . . ”
    Huntsman = pretender/liberal/New Ager
    Cain = so green he’s being played — (you can’t throw out the constitution when you find it inconvenient, as in tort “reform”)

    —————–

    So, 4 IN vs. 4 OUT. The field narrows . . .

  • Valerie

    OT, as I catch up on this because I did not see the debate, I’m watching Bill O’Reilly tear Paul Krugman a new one.

    http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/index.html#/v/1156024059001/poisonous-911-rhetoric-on-display/?playlist_id=86923

  • Mad Hatter

    The Republican version of Dennis Kucinich strikes again.

  • Craig

    “Why do Sunni’s kill shiites and Vice versa, you drooling libtard morons???” (Gus (#30 & 32))

    Why did Christians killed Protestant and vice-versa? Again here I see you double standards. Boy, you should all be politicians you are so slicky.

    “Ask yourself. Most servicemen think Ron Paul is a nut. You’re just to stupid to see it. ”

    And are you too stupid to realize that Ron Paul got twice of the donations from servicemen than all the GOP candidate combined? He also got much more than Obama. Please get educated.

  • MamaGrizzly

    Oh, and Perry’s dodge on the mandate. It’s not that the pharm company contributed, it’s that Perry had holdings in the company.

    Oh, and you can’t build a fence. It’s completely impossible.

    Perry floats easy give-aways out there that have no impact on anything, but that are designed to try and snare conservatives.

    I find him repugnant.

  • gaaaak, this thread has been infested by InfoWars morons

  • Mike

    Ron Paul is an un-American idiot. No wonder all the the members of the US military I know hate hate him.

  • D.

    This Gus character is a quack or just a disappointment. Don’t believe the propaganda, buddy. Lets keep American free and prosperous by not creating new enemies around the world- i.e. bombing, maintaining military bases, funding tyrannical governments- thats going to keep us safe.
    I also must ask Gus, why did al-Qaeda attack the U.S. ? Also, lets be productive and not call people retards, Gus, it make you seem like a dick.
    Oh and vote Paul 2012.

  • Mark Spitz

    The MetalGear sock puppets are out in force, to attack Paul. Apparently the central bankers funding the sock puppetry are scared by someone who speaks Truth? As for those in the military who actually signed up to be a sock puppet — shame on you for your anti-American activities!!!!

  • Craig

    MamaGrizzly, I think it would be best if you would stay in your cave, so you would’t ridicule and discredit yourself withs uch hateful comments

  • FurryGuy

    #41 September 12, 2011 at 10:12 pm
    Craig commented:

    Stick to worrying about Canadian politics, American politics is far above your ability to grasp such subtleties.

  • Gabe

    gus , Israel is a murderous state. They aren’t even biblical jews, they’re of turkish decent.

  • Mad Hatter

    #43,

    You’re exactly right. I”m sure they floated over here from area 51.

  • Mickey Mouse

    We supported Saddam Hussein in the Iran-Iraq war, then we ousted him many years and two wars later.
    We supported the Taliban in the Soviet War in Afghanistan, now we fight against them as a harbor of radical terrorists.
    We get involved in Lebanon and then pull out.
    We bombed Libya how many times in the last 30 years?
    We built bases in Saudi Arabia, and have an ever present military in the Middle East.
    And on and on and on…..
    You don’t think these actions have the possibility to create mistrust, misunderstanding or resentment against us in the Muslim world?
    In many cases, our motivation of involvement was to keep cheap oil so we could maintain our economic growth, and not necessarily altruistic or about spreading freedom and democracy.
    Trying to police the world is a dangerous business that has many unintended consequences and it’s something that will/has bankrupt our country, and its a policy that needs to change.
    If you actually think long and hard, with an open mind, you will realize that Ron Paul is right.

  • Gabe

    And yes gus you’re an idiotic dick as posted above. You’ll believe whatever they want you to believe. And to whoever said the military hates Ron Paul, thats a laugh. He gets more money from military personal than any other candidate. my fellow americans make me sick. Time to move to nepal and return to nature.

  • Ripped

    I see you’re doubling down on stupid again Mr Hoft.

    I am embarrassed for Floridians that feel it necessary to jeer a logical line of causes and effects, distorting the truth and finding reason in malicious attacks based solely on jealousy of freedom and prosperity.

    The head of the CIA admitted that our foreign policy was one of the contributing factors to 911. People need to stop believing this garbage our country/media is telling us. Other countries don’t like us because we’re rich. They don’t like us because of the meddling we do. Why is this so hard to understand?

    The strength of Ron Paul is that he pulls voters from all parts of the political spectrum. I know as many Republicans as Democrats as Independents as Tea Party people who are Ron Paul supporters.

    We currently spend $6.7 BILLION dollars a MONTH on our “wars” in the Middle East. (Now THAT is some bad American foreign policy right there.) We’re $14 TRILLION dollars in debt. Ron Paul — and most people in the U.S. — think that is insane. What he said plays very well to many people watching who don’t want to spend that much on the Middle East and don’t want to demonize an entire group of people in the world for what a handful of men were responsible for on 9/11. In the end, Ron Paul stands by his principles and I’m glad he did. I’m glad he doesn’t change his message depending on who he’s talking to at that particular moment — like Rick Perry clearly does. I don’t want a panderer in the White House.

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    Who by the way are massacring the palestinians.

    Hate Jews much?

  • kozanne

    I was at the debate viewing in Phoenix. Two events stand out in my mind right now ….just got home:

    1. Ron Paul got SOUNDLY boooed for his statements about 9-11
    2. You could have heard a pin drop when Bachmann dropped the bomb about the relationship between Perry and Merck [Gardasil vaccine].

    And there were Ron Paul and Rick Perry supporters in the room.

  • FurryGuy

    #51 September 12, 2011 at 10:21 pm
    Mickey Mouse commented:

    The US supported Mujehadeen fighters, not the Taliban.

    But then facts never seem to matter to Alex Jones and his mouth-breather followers.

  • Gabe

    No I dont hate jews. I hate watching a people murder another group of people and to have a whole nation behind them because they are so called “God’s chosen”. YOu say i hate Jews, I say you hate muslims.

  • D.

    #54 Blacque Jacques Shellacque commented:
    Who by the way are massacring the palestinians.

    Hate Jews much?

    Hate Israel, is more like it. So disappointing….they have this problem you see, its called the Palestinian, and I am afraid they don’t know what to do with all of them! Best just to segregate to two general areas and a few scattered between. They fight for better reasons than the Israels do.

  • Mickey Mouse

    #44-Mike. That’s strange, because Ron Paul wants to bring all the troops home because we can’t afford to fight all these wars anymore. I think most soldiers would like that idea. Think of the economic benefit to having all the soldiers home spending money here in our country. And the happiness it would bring to so many struggling military families. I heard the gov’t spent many billion dollars on air-conditioning for tents in Afghanistan alone this summer. We sure could use some of that money to build new roads and schools here in the U.S.
    Ron Paul thinks so too.

  • Nathan C

    Stupid Ron Paul predicted 9/11.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpdf_UtvSpE

  • Craig

    Hey Lisa (43), you be as surprised as I was, Infowars have fantastic articles, with links every 2 sentences, to prove there saying. The best documented site on the web. Nowhere else will you find all the documents for serious rechearches. You find declassified government documents, full inserts on vaccines, you have TOP international experts guests on different subjects, etc. You would really be surprise if you wouldn’t be so snobish to go and see for yourself. And what I like about that site, is that they do not fall in the rigt/left paradigm to divide people. They give credit or blame to either side, depending on the subject. When they condem a dictator, they don’t hate the whole country, they can make the difference between government and citizens. Hat to them!

  • kozanne

    Hey #53 don’t feel so bad. We jeered him in the viewing room in Phoenix, too.

    If he’s so interested in the truth, he might want to find out just what the ‘Palestinians’ really are. They are the trailer trash of the Arab world. They are ARABS, in language and in culture. Jordan doesn’t want them, neither does Saudi. Egypt is not particulary fond of them either, at least not until the “Arab Spring”. All bets are off now where that is concerned.

    Yasser Arafat was born in CAIRO. He was an Egyptian, and lots of other things we won’t go into now.

    The whole “Palestinian Nation” and “Palestinian People” thing is a LIE.

    The biggest problem the “Palestinian people” have is their own damn government. Just like America, right?

  • Mickey Mouse

    #56, FurryGuy- Taliban are one of the mujahideen groups. Google it.

  • Craig

    “Stick to worrying about Canadian politics, American politics is far above your ability to grasp such subtleties.” Fury Guy (#48)

    LOL… you have NO CLUE what’s going on in your country, the comments here proves it everyday. Boy, are you in for a big surprise!

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    YOu say i hate Jews, I say you hate muslims.

    It appears you do.

  • Reminder

    Reminder: It is illegal for sock puppets to post in English here. Do the right thing and follow the law, please.

  • Invictus

    Craig — “Why did Christians killed Protestant and vice-versa? ”

    Gee, that’s brilliant. Do you know that Protestants are Christians?

  • D.

    #62 September 12, 2011 at 10:31 pm
    kozanne commented:

    ……
    If he’s so interested in the truth, he might want to find out just what the ‘Palestinians’ really are. They are the trailer trash of the Arab world. They are ARABS, in language and in culture. Jordan doesn’t want them, neither does Saudi. Egypt is not particulary fond of them either, at least not until the “Arab Spring”. All bets are off now where that is concerned.

    As the Jewish people were once upon a time. I just hope they treat them with more dignity then the Nazis were did.

  • D.

    The Jews that is.

  • Fionnagh

    #49. I believe your comment is inaccurate. Israeli Jews are mostly descended from the Ashkenazi Jews of Europe (Germany and Poland).

  • Fionnagh

    #64. So clue us in, then, hotshot.

  • Gabe

    Blacque Jacques Shellacque commented:

    YOu say i hate Jews, I say you hate muslims.

    It appears you do.

    I don’t hate anyone. You’re tricked into believing that Israel is holy and the Palestinians are the cause of all these troubles. When in fact if you would do some research you would see this is not the case. But i’m not here to convince you,i don’t argue with ignorance. If you can’t see through the lies thats you’re problem.

  • Invictus

    Speaking of Palestinians, the movement is the direct child of Nazi Germany. Check out Arrafat’s mentor, Amin Al Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and co-conspirator with Hitler’s Holocaust. I’m afraid that some of you will enjoy the photo gallery of ghouls.

    http://www.tellchildrenthetruth.com/gallery/

  • ah

    Wolf lives up to his name. Ron Paul won this debate even with the planted non-Paul paid supporters. Ron Paul 2012!

  • Ron Santo

    I love the smell of neo-moronicons in the morning . . . Smells like KOOLAID!

    19 Koran-waving “terrists” who “hate us for our freedoms” done it. Yessiree.

    Dancing Israelis, investigations derailed, WTC7, insider put options ignored, Bush reading about goats while NY burns, miracle passports in the rubble, missing surveillance tapes, unarmed fighter planes . . . What have you doofusses been doing the last ten years? Chewing your toenails?

  • Craig

    @ Nathan (#60)

    Great video! Everyone here should see it. Ron Paul is the only clear-thinker candidate for the presidential. What a courageous and wise man!

  • Ron Santo

    Israelis are racist, haters who bleat “anti-Semite” every time they got caught committing acts of genocide. They are monumental hypocrites. The trail of 9/11 leads to Tel Aviv any way you slice it.

  • Craig

    Ron Santo (#76)

    They don’t research. They just drink the MSM and the alleged “conservative” neocons website propaganda. They cannot think by themselves. I use to be just as endocrinated as them 3 years ago. But I had the guts to rechearch and face the truth. They don’t have what it takes. They will never be able to understand Ron Paul’s insights and wisdom. It is above their grade.

  • ah

    I got feeling the debate was scripted. CNN did you send the script out to everyone but as usual forgot about Ron Paul. Research Ron Paul!

  • Mike

    Ron Paul is and un-American Moron. His bubble headed supporters are racist idiots who would be glad if 30 million Iraqis were still slaves of Saddams WMD using police state and the Taliban and their al-Qaida allies ruled Afghanistan. Where were to Paul nuts on 9-11? Prehaps the hippie dorks were too stoned to see the towers demolished by islamo-facists who hate America because we stand for every thing they are opposed to. They hate us because we have spread freedom and democracy around the globe.

    Ron Paul may want to prostrate himself at the feet of Islam, real Americans never will.

  • Mike

    Paulians, do yourself a favor, stop drinking the KoolAid and read a little, the truth will open your eyes.

  • 1906 CUBS

    Ron Santo. You are one sick freak. It is ironic that President Bush was reading a book about how much YOU SUCK.

    My PET GOAT!!! Goat!!! Ron. Did your brain get amputated along with the rest of you before you croaked???

  • Ron Santo

    Muslim-haters are complete tools. Useful idiots to their “owners”. Now get back to your fry basket, Cletus!

  • ah

    Follow the money trail Mike, who benefitted from the towers being destroyed.

  • Mike

    Ron Santo,

    Put down the bong you fascist, anti-Muslim, anti-Iraqi bigot.

  • Ladue Pundit

    Last time Paul said if we put a fence on the border it might “keep Americans in.” I heard it live.
    This week he topped even himself.

    Muslims kill more Muslims than any other group. They are told to do so by the Qur’an:

    “Seek the infidels and kill them where you find them. Smite at their necks.”

    “There is no greater glory than to kill or be killed for [the sake of Allah]”

    “I have been made victorious through terror.” (hadith)

    Ron Paul is stupid, and most of the others are too afraid to admit why Muslims kill, kill, kill.

  • Mike

    “Follow the money trail Mike, who benefitted from the towers being destroyed.”?

    Al-Qaida thought islamo-facism would benefit, they were wrong, they awoke the sleeping American giant and were destroyed.

  • donh

    Yes the Paul bearers are in a big rage. How would you feel if you just witnessed all your volunteer efforts, all your travel to straw polls, all your money donations go up in smoke by one crazy old man dropping his pants on live TV. When are you Paul bearers going to realize Alex Jones is on the CIA payroll. He is a human piece of fly paper paid to draw all you conspiracy traitors into his pad so you can be placed on a goverment watch list.

  • ah

    The irony in this whole debate is Muslims and Jews were fathered by Abaraham!

  • atticcellar

    United States has been meddling in the Arab world for decades placing tyrants in power (ei; “Saddam Hussein, Shaw of Iran, Bin Laden…..). These citizens of sovereign nations have every right to fight back. 911 was an inside job anyway.. see architects and engineers for 911 truth dot com. 1500 plus licenced professionals who swear by their reputations that the official government story is a big lie. Building 7 is the smoking gun.. The fascist global bankers have used 911 as an excuse to rob us and create a fear mongering police state..Mainstream Republicans and Democrats are just two sides of the same coin controlled by their global masters. They are bought and paid for by the banksters. Ron Paul is the only honest candidate out their. Sometimes the truth hurts but burying our heads in the sand and pretending the fairy tale will only lead to our destruction!!

  • Jim

    Ron Paul, once again showing the American people the lunacy of a dangerous progressive Libertarian mind. I would love to be a fly on the wall when he, Penn Gillette, Jesse Ventura, and Alex Jones all sit around tripping on mushrooms, comparing how much worse each ones conspiracy theory is than the others, while figuring out new ways the government is going to kill us all in FEMA camps, and playing in their own s**t, lol.

  • Ron Santo

    Bwaahaaaa!! Wazzup, Cubbie? Choke on your pork rind, did we? Tell me, oh Illuminated One, what book was “Shrub” reading at Booker Elementary? Why did the Secret Service detail not hustle his clueless hiney out the door when the poop hit the fan?

    It was a classic case of the dog that would not bark. They let him sit there like the worthless idjit he is because they knew he was in NO DANGER. But keep on watching that Fairly Unbalanced infotainment, try not to drool too much, and wake up just as clueless as you were the day before.

    Hey, better get to bed, Sport. That little yellow bus won’t wait all day, donchaknow.

  • Craig

    “Gee, that’s brilliant. Do you know that Protestants are Christians?” D. (#67)

    You know what I meant. Catholic against protestants all the time. And do you remember all the previous inquisations especially the Spanish Inquisition in 1478? A state institution used to identify conversos, Jews and Muslims who pretended to convert to Christianity for purposes of political or social advantage and secretly practiced their former religion. Remember, people were accused of being heretics. How is this different than Sunnis fighting Shiites?

  • gus

    THE MONEY TRAIL??? WTF are you smoking.

  • bruce

    CIA official tells why the Muslim world hates us …. Ron Paul was right
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udz5_FdoFGU

  • NadePaulKuciGravMcKi

    reports from people in the audience
    ZNN’s audio feed was very different

    mention of ‘Palestinians’ is a big Israel-firster no no

  • ah

    The debate only makes Dr. Paul stronger. They all were his Dr. Paul’s talking heads tonight.

  • Ron Santo

    Lordy, Lordy!! This is easier than panning for turds in a latrine.

  • It’s amazing how many anti-Paul people on this post are completely ignorant of history.

  • Craig

    “They hate us because we have spread freedom and democracy around the globe.” Mike (#80)

    ROTFLMAO. You have only spread death and desolation around the world. Irak is in a worse condition than it was with Saddam. No country was better after you meddled in their affairs. Who are you kidding anyway? Please educate yourself.

  • Freddy

    The bottom line of the point made by Ron Paul is simple.

    He does not care if 300+ million arabs kill all the Jews in Israel. In fact, in the world imagined by Ron Paul, they would be as justified in that mass slaughter today as when they tried to do it in 1948.

    It is now time for Ron Paul to be excluded from further Republican debates. In fact, Ron Paul should run as an independant for the Nazi Party in 2012.

  • and the infestation is spreading… what a bunch of paulian maroons…

    HELP HELP JIM HOFT… your blog has gone over to the dark side of insane commenters spouting sheeeeeer nonsense about how great ron paul is….and how wonderful infowars is? WHAAAAAAaaat?

    oooooooooh the insanity…

  • And Freddy is one of the biggest ignorant asses of them all. WOW. Yeah, how dare he suggest us taking care of our own. Let’s take care of everybody else at our own people’s expense. Cuz the US is the babysitters of the world. Go kill yourself, please.

  • Ron Santo in a Latrine.

    It appears multiple amputee and late Cubs loser, Ron Santo, spends his free time mining in mens bathrooms.

    Not surprising.

  • So, all you anti-Paul people just decide that history didn’t happen? You still believe the world is flat, too? Jesus, read a history book, look into what happened in 1991, and shut your damn mouths.

  • ah

    Freddy, Freddy. This has nothing to do with Isreal. Jesus was and died a Jew.

  • Craig

    @ donh (#88)

    Boy oh boy! You sure got that wrong. I beleive Alex Jones is probably the greatest American patriot after Ron Paul If you cannot see this, you are doomed. Watch out, the train is coming and you still have no clue. Incredible!

  • atticcellar

    Freddie.. Please elaborate with some evidence of your claims that Dr Paul is a racist.. Otherwise your post is just hateful lies.. Ron Paul is for freedom and liberty for all!!

  • Craig

    Just watch the next False Flag.

  • Drew

    Who is this Gus clown? Ron Paul was right on the money. It amazes how many of my fellow freedom loving Americans can’t seem to put the shoe on the other foot. If twenty Americans went and blew up 3000 people in china would that give China the right to occupy the U.S? Even if elements of our government financed those 20 Americans who did so the answer is no. They also wouldn’t have the right to set up a puppet government they control either. Or take our resources to finance their war and then call it repayment for the great service of liberating us from our capitalist overlords. That is exactly what we did in Iraq. Use your brain Gus if you have one, or any of you morons. Most of us would be pouring into the streets rifles in hand to destroy the communist thugs who were occupying our nation. We would call ourselves freedom fighters! The Chinese would call us terrorists. You know this to be truth. You are afraid of the truth because you know what the implications of that kind of info war would be. You have been used,enslaved, and pay the very cost of your enslavement to stop “terrorists”. You sir are a fool. Ron Paul may not be eloquent but at least he isn’t a liar.

  • donh

    The one and ONLY reason Islam attacks us is because we defend Israel. People kissing up to Iran and Al Quaida are either immoral cowards , antisemites or both. Defending Israel is self defense because you will be the next infidel on the extermination list.

  • gus

    Hahahahahahahahaha!!! Ron Paul’s Branch Davidians are out in force!! Hilarious.

  • Drew

    Hey Gus did you just compare supporters of a political candidate you don’t agree with to people who were horribly murdered by a corrupt government agency? I would be careful who you are trying to call crazy. Either that or you are trolling it is difficult for me to believe you really are that stupid.

  • gus

    Drew, it’s past your bedtime son. If you stay up any later, you might get some subliminal messages BEAMED to you by DOCTOR (hehehehheehe) Paul.

    DOCTOR Paul. That shyte cracks me up Drew.

  • Craig

    @ Bruce (#95)

    Yes I have seen this video before. Former CIA Bin Laden Unit Chief, Michael Scheuer really understands the problem. So does Ron Paul. But beleive me, no one of the regular posters on this site will have the guts to view the video. They cannot deal with reality, facts or truth.

  • BS61

    The only time I’ve agreed with RINO Michael Medved is when he called him Dr. Dimento!

  • David Koresh Santo

    Hey “Drew”. Relax, after Ron Paul gets sh!tcanned, you can still vote for Obama.

  • Craig

    “It’s amazing how many anti-Paul people on this post are completely ignorant of history”. Captain Obvious (#99)

    History doesn’t interest them, this is why they don’t have a clue of what is happening right now. History always repeats itself. They will find out soon.

  • Drew

    Hey Koresh. I am Libertarian not a Liberal.

  • BS61

    #6 September 12, 2011 at 9:38 pm
    Saçi commented:
    Hahaha Ron Paul is awesome!

    You guys seriously believe that we were attacked because of who we are and what we stand for?

    No – I know that facts, that Thomas Jefferson learned from the Koran when he put the Navy up against the Muslim pirates – they hate us because we will not bow to Islam.

  • Kevin Foster

    Ron Paul makes more sense that all those guys put together. The fact that he was booed just represents the faction of tea party supporters who are idiots. A true tea party patriot would cheer at what Ron Paul said. Of course, our foreign policy brought about 9/11. Do you really think a small group of extremist Muslims brought down three American jetliners and caused billions in damage all on their own without help from people in positions of power and influence on the inside and have profited from it even since? God bless America and our troops, but we’ve been lied to for a long time. Anybody who thinks otherwise is still asleep. Wake up!

  • John

    I was in the military and participated in the bombing of Iraq in 1997 and 1999.

  • Craig

    “The bottom line of the point made by Ron Paul is simple. He does not care if 300+ million arabs kill all the Jews in Israel.” Freddy (#101)

    If the US wouldn’t give 7 times more funding to ennemies of Irael, than they give to Israel, that country would have nothing to fear from arabs. This is why you have to stop Foreign Aid all around the world. US funds Arabs to make Israel insecure… and then they fund Israel to boss them around and tell them what to do. USA is the one creating problems all around the world to justify their wars. US like wars.

  • JEff.

    Seriously, you guys don’t know why we were bombed on 9-11? Paul is completely right. How do these politicians no know the reasons behind attacks? Nobody wants to accept that actions have consequences. American has been empire building for years before the attacks of 9-11. Stop watching mainstream media and maybe you’ll hear more than what you WANT to hear.

  • Drew

    Of course he is right. Sadly though the cool aid runs freely on this website. Gus still has some on his chin.

  • gus

    BS61. You are dealing with kooks.

  • BS61

    #17 September 12, 2011 at 9:48 pm
    Gabe commented:
    Ron Paul is right. We have been in the middle east for decades, supporting Israel. Who by the way are massacring the palestinians.

    This is not true, and the Israel issue is the reason RP cannot win.

  • Drew

    Yes Gus because instead of repudiating what the man says you instead just call people kooks. Good job Gus. Winning hearts and minds. Lets look at Paul’s record,

    * He has never voted to raise taxes.
    * He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
    * He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
    * He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
    * He has never taken a government-paid junket.
    * He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
    * He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
    * He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.
    * He voted against the Patriot Act.
    * He voted against the Iraq war.
    * He wants to remove Marijuana from the list of controlled substances
    This guy obviously values freedom. Come on Gus try making a point the Kooks are all waiting.

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    You’re tricked into believing that Israel is holy and the Palestinians are the cause of all these troubles.

    Tricked?

    You mean that the thousands of rocket launches by Palestinians into Israeli territory since 2001 are mere illusions?

    All those Hamas-inspired Palestinian suicide bombings that went on between 2000 and 2005 that were largely aimed at civilians are nothing but dreams?

    The Palestinians’ well-known tactic of hiding in civilian-populated areas to increase the likelihood of non-combatant casualties when Israel responds to their attacks is nothing but fantasy?

    The only people that have been “tricked” are those that believe the Palestinians are being led by reasonable people.

  • Craig

    They cannot make a point, it’s there weakness, they are clueless. Completely clueless. All they can say is that Ron Paul is a kook, but nothing to back it up…lol

  • Craig

    @ Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    Nobody is blaming Jews or Palestinians. The fight they have between them is orchestrated by the US foreign policies. Please wake-up!

  • Drew

    Exactly Craig. Same old drivel from stupid people oh and just in case you thought he was unpatriotic for wanting to end the war lets look at his military contributions compared to other candidates.
    Ron Paul 32.94%
    John McCain 22.99%
    Hillary Clinton 13.92%
    Bill Richardson 7.03%
    Barack Obama 6.85%
    Mitt Romney 4.68%
    Rudy Giuliani 3.06%
    John Edwards 2.97%
    Tom Tancredo 1.85%
    Duncan Hunter 1.32%
    Joe Biden 1.06%
    Mike Huckabee 0.20%
    Mike Gravel 0.09%
    Sam Brownback 0.07%
    Dennis Kucinich 0%
    Tommy Thompson 0%
    Chris Dodd 0%
    Jim Gilmore 0%
    John Cox 0%
    WOW! I would say he has military support as well. You people need to do some research. This fight to discredit Ron Paul clearly isn’t working no matter how much he is ignored by the mainstream. People are watching and they are getting pissed off byt the same old tired GOP field.

  • Craig

    Oh oh… the regular posters of this site, all ran scared of truth. They have no arguments, so they go and hide somewhere. I told you, they have no clue and cannot substain a real debate. They are scared little slaves who wants to elect a statu quo and big establishment candidate and obey him faithfully.

  • ǝɔuɐɹǝdɯǝʇ

    Gentlemen, please refrain from such tawdry ad-hominem attacks. They accomplish nothing but debasing you, your arguments, and whichever cause you support.

  • Drew

    The Paul people here are not pushing much in the way of Ad-hominem attacks sir. Also making an Ad-hominem attack on somebody is exactly a bad thing if it is true. For example.

    “You Paul people are Kooks”
    “Why are we Kooks”?
    “Because Um I say so”
    “You poor Idiot”
    As you can see sir both are Ad-hominem attacks but one is true the other is not. Thank you for stopping by.

  • Drew

    Not exactly i meant to say, typo.

  • atticcellar

    Ron Paul tells it like it is.. His record impeccable.. The others are bought off shills for the banksters willing to do their bidding on command..

  • Sorry to Live in Illinois

    If you want four more years of Obama, then, please, vote for Ron Paul.

    I don’t care if 100% of the good things people are saying about him are true (and I know many of them are, in fact, true). The simple fact is that Paul is not marketable. He’s a brand that should be taken off the shelf. He’s an easy target. Simply put, right or wrong, he cannot be elected.

    I don’t care what kind of a wrapper you put on him, it will not change his marketability or peoples perception of him.

    For the record, I’d like to see Ron Paul debate Allen West. And further, I don’t believe the republican nominee was on that stage tonight.

  • Thinking Takes Effort

    (sic) “The vast majority of Americans are horrified and angry at what happened in NYC, but the same vast majority watched televisions with fascination while the US war machine mercilessly incinerated Baghdad for weeks on end – likely killing hundreds to thousands each day (without a declaration of war); later President Bush had the gall to appear on a television skit joking about how he couldn’t find weapons of mass destruction.
    The current President bombed the Tripoli area for days and financed NATO’s continuation of same and had the equal gall to have the undeclared warfare called a “kinetic military action”.
    How many millions did we kill in Viet Nam following the Gulf of Tonkin lie that led to another undeclared war?
    Iran officially dislikes us – for what, merely overthrowing its elected president, putting in our puppet (the Shah), funding Iraq during its seven year war with Iran, and positioning our military in its surrounding neighbors (including Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and Afghanistan)?
    Ron Paul is right and the damn fools in and out of the Tea Party who refuse to understand the limits of our Constitution and the demands of decency deserve who they have, who they’ll get, and what they’ll get.”

    Ron Paul is an intellectual, an historian, an expert on the constitution, the financial system, the banking system, an eleven term congressman, and he’s also a doctor. And people have the audacity to refer to him as a ‘kook’. Shame on you! I have recognized a pattern among people who attack Ron Paul. They have low IQ’s or don’t know their history or have little ability to think ‘critically’. They are part of the emotional mob who are shallow and can be easily influenced to pick up any stone and cast it against an innocent because it ‘feels’ right.

  • ǝɔuɐɹǝdɯǝʇ

    To insult someone, even in the process of properly dissertating their argument, is nevertheless a fallacious ad-hominem attack. Especially if the counterpoint is a variation of, “Only a fool would believe such a thing.”

    Perchance it is a lesser form of the fallacy? Easily the case, but debating such a thing should not come to pass, for it remains a fallacy and a hex inflicted upon yourself regardless. And perhaps, if one might be permitted to project, it is an indication that a man is more interested in conflict and oneupmanship than the inference and dispersal of the truth.

  • Jovetta

    That’s right keep pushing the Republican Bush lie that we were attacked because of our “freedoms”. Not our militarism, wars, Israel support. Man u T-Partiers r real morons when it comes to foreign policy. No wonder the whole WORLD hates America. Your preachers brainwashed u into believing the whole Israel is god’s nation malarkey. Go ahead start another 2 trillion dollar war and finished bankrupting the country. Idiots. RON PAUL 2012

  • Donawld

    I rly think most of the boos came because Paul didn’t flat out deny statements blaming US policy but instead chose to quote his belief on muslim credo and I think the way it was said confused ppl who are all “Woo US matter what.”. He hasn’t changed anything he’s said and asked this same question in different formats drew cheers at other debates. He came off as anti American by accident given only 30 secs to rebuttal. I give him props for not backing down from his principal but as a Paul supporter I will also own this fumble as better luck next time. As others have stated he has supreme support from military (look at the numbers.). And he’s deemed crazy for having an absolutist approach to the constitution as well ass an isolationist attitude mirroring George Washington. I challenge everyone against him to physically check his voting record, as well as the voting records of other candidates. If he’s such a cook why was he chosen to monitor the fed recently? Why are the other candidates now mimicking his approach to the fed as well as his policies in Iraq and Afghanistan? Huntsmen essentially said the same thing Paul did but was cheered just moments later? Why wasn’t Paul asked any questions about the fed at all?

  • Hey neocon retards, it turns out that 95% of the electorate finds your war mongering abhorrent. Even if there was an actual threat, which there isn’t, we can’t afford to continue to wage wars such as we have been. Oh, and as a proud service member who has fought overseas I think you might find it relevant that Dr. Paul recieves more money from us actual soldiers than any other candidate (http://caivn.org/article/2011/07/19/ron-paul-receives-most-military-donations-again). Stop shoving your chicken hawk BS down Americas throat, we’re all fed up with the national security police estate and the empire thats bankrupting us.

    Embrace saner positions or you give Obama the election.

  • Militant Conservative

    Nutter Ron Paul.

    Crazy as a $hit house rat.

  • Militant Conservative

    #133

    No , I have job and must get up at 5am EST.

    You snot nosed brats are still in the fart sack.

    Ron Pauls poll numbers are outstanding!

    Conspiracy blah blah. Real world adult thinking

    Trumps Internet conspiracy theorys.

    Powder is dry, stick him with a fork.

  • Tatiana

    It’s clear that those posting need to learn more about US foreign affairs within history, including Bin Laden’s motivation for attacking us on 911. Bin Laden has been very clear regarding why he attacked us….and it’s sad to hear so many Americans disillusioned and uneducated. US foreign policy is the driving force behind the attacks – whether we like it or not….and it extends far beyond Iraq. US occupation in the middle east has been going on for many many decades, including the largest covert operation in American history at the time when the Soviets were fighting millions in Afghanistan and we supported the Mujahdeen. If you understood demographics in Afghanistan, you would realize that approx. 85% of the country is under the age of 30 – not due to lack of healthcare but from the millions of elders that have died in wars. Almost 45% of the population in Afghanistan is under the age of 14. That’s amazing on any standard. This country has seen entire generations destroyed in their many wars. And Afghanistan is just one example. The entire middle east has been enduring wars for thousands of years, largely for occupation and religious ideology. Our participation and/or support is not welcome by the middle eastern countries, or appreciated – and at a large cost of honorable service members. It’s important to do your homework in understanding these issues and quit relying soley on pundits and media. Bin Laden does not value our value system, including freedom, I agree…but not the motivating factor. What has motivated the attacks has been our occupation in the middle east, interference, foreign policy, and economic support. Unfortunately, it’s been at a tremendous cost. Those affected by 911 were innocent victims that were targeted….and we should pray for them and their families. Most importantly, we need to elect new leadership. But before everyone makes a determination on who they will vote for……do some stinkin’ homework and make sure you understand who and what you are really voting for. This liberal socialist bull is destroying our country. I hope everyone does better learning about the candidates than their understanding of history. It’s just sad… How do you think we ended up with this “hope and change” garbage. Voter’s liked his appeal, nice teeth, pleasant speaker, and knew nothing about his experience. Need I remind everyone…..he really didn’t have any. He’s a professor, community organizer, who really had no experience managing anything….who had even less political experience. WOW! I’m still stunned he managed to get into office……voters clearly are listening to the commercials and not doing any of their own homework. btw….I have some property to sell you in AZ…
    Please do your homework and don’t rely soley on commercial media.

  • gus

    This is HILARIOUS. Ron Pauls’ MORON SQUAD. It must be a bizarre life to follow such a NUT job. Ron Paul is intelligent. And he is NUTS.

    If you DO NOT RECOGNIZE that RON PAUL is NUTS. You are probably NUTS too.

    Very PROBABLY.

  • gus

    Militant Conservative. Don’t be so harsh vis a vis Ron Paul’s Flying Circus. These FOOLS, really believe. They are just willing idiots.

    They cite Bin Ladens words, when it suits them. They want to believe. They desperately WANT to BELIEVE that RON PAUL isn’t a JOKE.

  • catwoman368

    Ron Paul is not a republican and will never be the nominee of the republican party. He needs to run as a libertarian or make up his own party. I think he is an anti-semite and it seems many posting here are like minded.

  • BS61

    #126 September 12, 2011 at 11:48 pm
    gus commented:
    BS61. You are dealing with kooks.

    Thanks Gus, but don’t they realize that all of their million comments and insults and anti-jew and Infowars actually make people never want to vote for RP?! If they really wanted to support him, they would stop.

  • gus

    JOVETTA. The rest of the WORLD ……LOVES US!!! Hillary Rodham AND Clown boy Obama………..RESET….everything.
    When Osama Bin Laden attacked us, using NUTS like you, we were not at WAR with HIM, nor Egypt, nor Saudi, nor any other country that houses MUZZTARDS.
    We had FREED KUWAIT. A Muslim country.
    Obama made ALL BETTER, by BOWING to Kings, Princes, Imams, Idads, Sheikhs, Mullahs and SULTANS.
    Egypt, Libya, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, and the rest of the MUZZTARD world NOW LOVE US!!
    WE CLOSED GITMO, and STOPPED DRONE BOMBINGS.

    You FRUITCAKES are entertainment.

  • Tatiana

    Hey “Thinking takes effort”……excellent feedback! Clearly having an IQ is not a requirement to post. I appreciate your stance….and on Ron Paul.

  • atticcellar

    Once again. Brainwashed neocons following the party line. No arguments of substance, just name calling.. DONT BELIEVE THE CORPRATE ELITIST WHO SAY RON CAN’T WIN.. They are running scared and are resorting to slander.. Ron’s record stands on its own.. Perfect! A true patriot!!

  • gus

    BS61. These idiots are nuts. They are clearly nuts. They have NO IDEA what they are talking about.
    7 or 8 years ago, my brother was the US MILITARY ATTACHE to ISLAMABAD U.S. EMBASSY.
    He had a Pakistani Captain approach him and say. “Captain, not all of us want you AMERICANS dead”.
    My brother responded. Ok, well how many do?
    The Pakistani Captain said. “Only about 10% of “us”.
    My brother responded. “Ok, what is the population of your country”

    It was 120,000,000.

    Do the Math.

    We were Pakistans’ ally. 1.2 million of them want us dead. oK, that is comforting.
    When did we attack or abuse Pakistan…. or POCK-EEE-STAHN, as Opie calls them.

  • Diana Oughton

    CORPORATIST ELITE!!

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaa. A Commie/Libtard total package. How funny.

  • gus

    “Thinking takes effort”
    “Knowledge is good”
    “Coexist”
    “Celebrate diversity”

    Add.

    “Liberalism, is a mental disease”

  • atticcellar

    I rest my case

  • Tatiana

    Liberalism or socialism, gus? either way……american needs to get back to its roots, and what this nation was founded on.

  • Tatiana

    You can argue with Ron Paul’s delivery and finesse…..but his arguments hold water and are based on factual foundation. I kinda like the ole cat and his frankness.

  • Ron Santo

    I’ll make sure to toss a couple MREs at all you doofi standing in line for your free bowl of soup. You know who you are, the unwashed cannon fodder who support the usual suspects on the the red or blue team. The rich S.O.B.’s who don’t give a flying &$#% about you or your family but somehow convince your public school-educated @$$ that they really, really, REALLY do. Oh yeah, Praise Jeebus and lemme kiss y’alls babies (ya dumb ignorant hillbilly f$&@).

  • raybojabo

    Give it up you Ron Paul morons. Your illustrious Furor is not going to win and legalize your precious dope. You have been exposed for the drug adeled, truther, anti-semetic, neo-liberal America hating morons that you are and you are a discrace to the conservative Tea Party.

  • FlushTheFederalReserve

    Very few sites even have online polls anymore, because RON PAUL utterly wiped the floor with the other candidates in every previous debate poll I saw. He won with about 58% of votes in last weeks MSNBC’s poll, with Romney trailing far behind with 15%. LOL It must be really embarrassing for the establishment.

    Go RON PAUL!

  • Ron Santo

    Israel is toast. Pass the butter.

  • gus

    It’s a study in mental illness. The moronic fools, who follow Ron Paul. Are passionate. They have HALF of their minds in working order.

    Ron Paul, is a CLOWN. Some of his ideas are interesting.

    Ron Paul is the RAIN MAN of politics. Those who have hitched their GOOFTARD wagons to him……are nutballs.

  • atticcellar

    Yes, He may not be a slick, slimy sellout. He may not be one of the beautiful people.. But he is honest and unwavering, unwilling to bow to the pressure of the press, liberals, or neocons.. He is a maverick. A true patriot who will take the hard steps to restore the republic.. Ron Paul 2012

  • gus

    Ron Santo, has no idea, what he is wishing.

  • gus

    Yes ATTICCELLAR. But he is a nut.

  • atticcellar

    Ron Paul = Father of the Tea Party..

  • Arelius

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udz5_FdoFGU
    CIA saying the same thing Ron Paul said. Freaky huh?

  • BS61

    #162 September 13, 2011 at 1:34 am
    FlushTheFederalReserve commented:
    Very few sites even have online polls anymore, because RON PAUL utterly wiped the floor with the other candidates in every previous debate poll I saw. He won with about 58% of votes in last weeks MSNBC’s poll, with Romney trailing far behind with 15%. LOL It must be really embarrassing for the establishment.

    Ron Paul supporters keep saying we should wake up – but when will they wake up to the reality that he gets 8%?

  • Ron Santo

    Gus is having the trouble with the English, please. Thank you too very much.

    Jeebus loves you cause y’alls a true ‘Merican. Is Oprah on yet?

  • BS61

    #154 September 13, 2011 at 1:10 am
    gus commented:
    BS61. These idiots are nuts. They are clearly nuts. They have NO IDEA what they are talking about.

    Do the Math.

    We were Pakistans’ ally. 1.2 million of them want us dead. oK, that is comforting.
    When did we attack or abuse Pakistan…. or POCK-EEE-STAHN, as Opie calls them.

    Yeah for your brother! Plus, I really don’t appreciate being called a neo-con, when I used to stupidly be a Dem!

  • rva

    I’ll be honest with yall, tonight was the first time I have given the republican presidential candidates any of my time so far, and Ron Paul won me over. These things (televised debates) can sometimes turn into “high school class president speeches”, giving empty, cliche answers that the candidates know their audience wants to hear because they know exactly who the crowd is they are replying to. Doctor Paul tonight did something that I would like to see more of in my elected representatives; he spoke about a tuff issue from both sides of the coin, so to speak, and that is how rational, intelligent people make and base their decisions. A true leader doesn’t cater to anyone when it comes to what they believe, and this citizen thinks that at this debate Ron Paul held his ground, was honest, and truthful to the American people about what he believes, in a room that he knew he wasn’t the most popular in.

    …but on a lighter note, I think there is one thing we can all agree on. That woman that sung our National Anthem before the debate SUCKED! hahaha

  • Donawld

    Once again I restate my challenge to check voting records, then argue against those. Shall we attempt to continue a true “argument”? Or is it just better to “fight” and say “you’re nuts” followed by “you’re idiots.”. There’s a second challenge right there: don’t post without referencing actual voting policy, instead of put downs. If you can’t say something other than insults then you have failed the game. (Dr. Ron Paul for President)

  • catwoman368

    Israel will never be toast and the LORD’S name is Jesus Christ the Messiah and as far as I am concerned you mr santo blasphemed His name. I agree with gus, raybojabo and others on this site Ron Paul should denounce some of you, because you are crazy nutjobs. Good grief get off the wacky tabbacky. Go buy a Bible and start reading in the Old Testament.Perhaps it might change your mind if there is any left. Through Abraham, GOD promised all nations would be blessed. The fruition of that promise is the Messiah, The Christ.

  • gus

    As Obamatard goes down in flames, LOSERS, like Ron Santo get more and more stupid.

    Obviously not grown up..yet.

    Hahahahhahahaa.

    Hope and Change!! What a dumb fvck.

  • Ron Santo

    RainbowJanebow,
    Your KoolAid drinking is not gonna end well for you. This country is gonna take a major dump and you’re essentially fracked. But that’s the price you pay for betting on the wrong team. Wish I could say that I care.

  • Craig

    ” I think he (Ron Paul) is an anti-semite and it seems many posting here are like minded.
    catwoman (#149)

    Hey Catwoman, it is the US government who is antisemite. They give 7 times more fundings to ennemies of Israel that they do to Israel. They create the problem of Israel. Then, they turn around and finance Israel to own them and tell them what to do. They pretend to help Israel, they tell them they are their best friends, but in reality they just boss them around, and tell them what to do. So of course, twhat the US suggest Israel to do only makes Arab countries more mad, and the battle never ends. This is how the US can turn the Middle East into a permanent living hell. They profit from all this chaos, they create reasons to can invade them and rub them blind.

  • gus

    Catwoman! God bless you. Only a LIBTARD misfit, would wish ILL upon Israel. LIBTARDS are MISFITS. They hate all that is good and righteous.
    Libtards hate GOD.
    Libtards hate the US MILITARY.
    Libtards hate CAPITALISM. Libtards are MISFITS. They are LOSERS. They are Communists, and they cling to COLLECTIVISM.
    Libtards, CANNOT COMPETE on ANY LEVEL…..as INDIVIDUALS.
    Libtards lash out at those who are normal, moral, patriotic, God fearing and successful.
    Libtards can only WIN or SURVIVE as products of COLLECTIVE ideology.
    IN SHORT. LIBTARDS SUCK.

    And THEY KNOW IT.

  • atticcellar

    Catwoman: If you wish to bring religion into the equation. Current occupiers of Israel are Khazars, not the seed of Abraham. This can be confirmed in the official Jewish encyclopedia. How would you like it if some thugs came to your house at gunpoint and stole your land which your family lived on for thousands of years. The Khazar’s are the synagogue of Satan and hate Jesus Christ.. Their hatred of Christ is laid forth in the Talmud.. Seek the truth and the truth will set you free..

  • gus

    BS61,
    I too used to be a democrat. The thought of that today, makes me ill. Trumka, Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Wassertard-Schlitz, Barney Frank, Biden and the rest make me PUKE. They are FREAKISH IDEOLOGUES. And their IDEOLOGY is POWER, not RIGHT V WRONG.

    The DEMOCRAT PARTY has become a CONGLOMERATION of CO-DEPENDENT FREAKS.

    I have that sentence copy writed!!!!

    A CONGLOMERATION of CO-DEPENDENT FREAKS.

  • Ron Santo

    CatChick,
    Glub . . .glub . . . glub (More KoolAid, please)

    The invisible man on the cloud just told me that you should start getting more “action” (if you know what I mean) on account of you’re needing to wake up to what Jeebus was really about– like maybe not sanctioning the slaughter of his Semitic relatives (Palestinians) by a bunch of eastern European, non-Semitic squatters.

    Ron Paul refuses to kiss the @$$ of Tel Aviv. Ergo, he is a true hero. And a true pro-Semite.

  • gus

    LIBTARDS try desperately to convince themselves, that ISRAEL is BAD, and the COMPLETELY DYSFUNCTIONAL, RANCID LOSERS, who call themselves PALISTINITARDS are GOOD,

    Libtards are too stupid it’s comical.

    LIBTARDS side with LOSERS, because LIBTARDS are LOSERS.

  • Craig

    Oupst… my eyes play tricks on me… too much reading I beleive.

    I meant: So of course, what the US suggest Israel to do, only makes Arab countries more mad, and the battle never ends. This is how the US can turn the Middle East into a permanent living hell hole. USA profit from all this chaos, they create reasons to invade Arab countries to rub them blind.

  • Ron Santo

    Atticellar,
    You go!

  • gus

    Ron Santo is TOAST. Pass the butter.

  • Militant Conservative

    Get em Gus!

    Lil freaks can’t handle an adult.

    They throw poo and whine but no amount of it

    Helps thier damaged candidate. Me I’m enjoying

    The show.

  • Craig

    @ Gus #179.

    I don’t know to whom you address your Libtard’s insults. But there is no Libtards for Ron Paul. Ron Paul supporters are genuine conservatives and constutionalists. Where are the libtards here? Boy, you seem to be really mixed up here!

  • Ron Santo

    Pus,
    Go to bed. Your cubicle awaits you in the morning. Don’t forget to submit your timecard to AIPAC in the morning.

  • Ron Santo

    Pus,
    Might wanna run the Hebrew-English dictionary before posting. Makes it so much easier for the English readers here. Shalom.

  • Craig

    Goodnight to all Ron Paul supporters. You made my day. Usually I’m the only Ron Paul supporter here. Imagine, I’m Canadian and I am French. So debating in English is not easy for me. Thanks again and please come back. I will sleep well, knowing that many Americans are awaken. There is still hope for this country.

  • catwoman368

    Mr santo you are pathetic in your response. God has called those who deny Him a fool and I believe that fits you to a T. I will say a prayer for your soul . I dont know who you are but the God of Heaven does. I feel very sorry for you and you should be fearful for your soul. You may mock me all you want, but you are the real loser and your soul is in jeporady.

  • atticcellar

    Despite what the hired heads say there are millions and millions of Ron Paul supporters in the US.. Just look at the polls..

  • Speaking Clearly

    Craig, respectfully, I think you have been misled in your frame of thinking, as to “Why do Muslim extremists want to destroy the USA”

    Even the people arguing against you are not getting it totally right, but they are close.

    Read your history. Understand the significant events, like the major shift that happened in the 1980’s, with the bombing in Beirut, Lebanon. It has always started with the United States defending Freedom…and then devolved into tit for tat.

    The Muslim Extremists want to kill Americans because we stand for Freedom…..BUT….it’s not so much the Freedoms we enjoy on our soil that concerns them….

    ….Muslim Extremists around the world have been frustrated by the United States of America….and hate us because we are preventing them from completely taking rights away from MUSLIM WOMEN…..and our presence over in the Middle East….has slowed…and prevented the Extremists from setting up a complet Islamic State….that has total control over its citizens…..ESPECIALLY WOMEN.

    Sure…The United States have had a presence in the Middle East to protect our Energy interests…..but along with that presence….has came an “American Influence”….that has CREEPED into their OLD WAYS.

    The Muslim Extremists dont like the fact that American influence, is erroding their OLD WAYS of treating women like CHATTLE…like property….and they can’t stop it.

    So it’s not so much OUR FREEDOM that they hate….it is the Freedom that we are bringing to their women.

    You won’t hear our Politicians explaining it this way anytime soon.

  • Great cover Hymie and judas we got these people completely confused they even eating up the islamaphobia but we gotta get something on the people at The ugly truth podbean.com and Mr friends blog just incase some sheeple stumble upon it and see the factual truth and start some mass movement toward truth and freedom.Call jezebel and see if she can use her wiley ways to get some Black mail going like we do with our congress.SHALOM.

  • Corey Vecchiarino

    All Ron Paul was trying to convey was that the terrorists motivation for attacking us isn’t simply because we have freedoms and radical Islamist s hate us for it.

    Their motivations to hate us were so strong that fifteen Saudi hijackers, two UAE hijackers, one Lebanese, and one Egyptian hijacker committed suicide in order to harm us.

    Their goal was to pull us into a war like the Soviets so they could kill us in Afghanistan and bankrupt us doing so.

    The motivation for doing this is a result of the blow-back retaliation role our foreign policy played. Which at the time was the building of military bases in Saudi Arabia and the meddling in the internal affairs of middle eastern countries. American’s did not cause the 4 Airliners to crash but the policies of our elected officials precipitated the motivations behind it. Otherwise why would they have wasted their lives killing us.

    You can argue that we should be spreading the ideals of our free democratic republic, but we cannot do this by force, if we are to do this it should be by example through our way of life not at the end of a gun.

    A more effective and cost effective way of dealing with Al Qaida would have been letters of marquee and reprisal. Paid assassins who’s job it’s was, was to kill outlaws who attacked US citizens from outside our country. If it was good enough to small bands of pirates in the past. With modern technology it should have been good enough to kill a small band of Terrorists based in Afghanistan and protected by Pakistan. The Invasion of 2 countries was unnecessary.

  • Bill Plat

    I am 66 years old and from GA. Any one who thinks Ron Paul is an idiot is no more than and idiot them selves. Now for all you non believers on 9/11 here is a question for you. Let’s say you leave your home and start to town. Half way there you are waved over by some Afghanistan holding an AK-47. He wants to search your car because they the Afghanistan’s are occupying your country. What are you going to do? You would be just like me you would want to kill the sucker. Sure it is okay as long as the shoe is on the other foot but let it come here and see how many of you change your tune. If you do not understand what Dr. Paul was trying to say about 9/11 then we all know why this country is so screwed up, because it is eat up with dumb.

  • Dell Rogers

    For post #196. I do not know who you are but you are 100 percent on the money. Every one on here should pay attention to you and your comment. You are just one of the few who truly understands what Dr. Paul is saying.

  • Molon Labe

    I thought Ron Paul was stpid t9ill I saw the comments of the Ronulians here. I never knew there were so many people in special ed classes.

    I’d like to know where in Texas his district is. I figure it must be near t6hat patch where all the cattle go crazy from the bad water.

  • FLO

    That crazy Ron Paul well he did it again. He told the truth. He warned about the terror attack of 9-11. Well it was a little early I think he did that in 1999. Plenty of time to do something about our policy but people would rather have the attack. We could just stop spending all that money on the CIA if all they do is LIE and make us unsafe. Everything Ron Paul has told you comes from CIA reports. Laugh if you want. But you are laughing at your own risk. Call if names but it won’t save your sorry rear.

  • Scot Williams

    Reminds me of WWII. Some one could have put a well placed bullet right between Hitler’s eye balls early on and we would not have had to completely blow up all of Europe. Same deal in Afghanistan. We need to pop a few nuts then let the boys go do it. Why do we have to blow the whole freaking country up and get all the rest over there pissed at us? Why did we not just take Saddam’s head off early on. All we need to do is close all of those foreign bases and bring all that money home. Now we use a small portion of that money to provide our selves with ten thousand navy seals and wala. Let every one know that if you mess with us or kill our people then your lights are going to go out one night and you will not know what hit you. If I have to deal with a Hornets nest, I will deal with the Hornets nest, I will not blow down half of a mountain just to get that one Hornets nest. Paul is absolutely right on what he is saying and he has my vote.

  • catwoman368

    #196 It may shock some but I think your comments come as close to the truth and well stated as possible. I do not think we should be nation building, nor do I think we should have a UN. I do however believe we should stand with Israel against the Arab nations which surround and want to drive Israel into the sea. I dont think a republic could survive in muslim countries, particularly if they support sharia law.

  • Scot Williams

    Now if you want to know what is wrong with out country then just take a peek at the Molon comment #199. Now that my friends is what happens when your brain has been eaten away with acid. There is no way that person should be allowed to vote.

  • Militant Conservative

    Bill I met you in a walmart wearing a truther

    Tee shirt. I also called you out. You backed down

    Really quick. Ya see, I had a gun and you didn’t.

    Also, Americans aren’t killing Afganis for breathing.

    Your a drunk toothless putz. I’m in Carrrollton.

    Drop by, I’ll school ya.

    Powder is dry, every day

  • Militant Conservative

    P.S. Craig is just a Kanuk bomb thrower.

    Canadian French , poor bastard, definitely got

    Shortchanged in the gene pool and country.

  • Jebril

    When I read the anti-paul posts I smile from cheek to cheek cuz I know they are factually wrong, hell I even laugh out loud at times.

    Many of you have no clue about what are foreign policy was before 9/11 and the notion that someone is willing to blow themselves up for god and because they hate these free and prosperous people is simply an attempt to blind yourself from the truth.

    We killed thousands on thousands of civilians in those countries before 9/11. The fact that they’re Egyptian or Saudi doesn’t matter, they’re Arabs. Arabs have a very strong sense of unity compared to other races, sure they fight with each other with our weapons which we instigate these conflicts between Sunnis and Shiites, but they hate seeing America trample over their countries like this. Bin Laden was trained by the CIA, as was Saddam Hussein, we created both these men into what they are, then said they were the enemy.

    It’s a joke, anti-Paul people hating and are looking dumber and dumber, Ron Paul 2012, still winning.

    I guarantee many people who watched TV agreed with Ron Paul despite the boos from the teabaggers he brought together in the first place.

  • Greg Browder

    Ron Paul is correct. Bottom line we are BROKE and can no longer afford to fight other peoples wars. The Roman Empire tried to police the world and they failed. If we do not stop now we will also fail. If we take any action at all it will have to be low cost from here on in. Post 201 has it right. One well trained sniper can do a lot of good if given the opportunity.

  • Jebril

    #199

    He has the most meet up groups around the world though, he has supporters everywhere, everywhere I go I’ve seen Ron Paul signs, I have seen more Ron Paul signs and supporters than any other candidate right now. Funny.

    The only one who’s retarded is you, you believe the propaganda the govt. created for you to go to endless wars and send your country down the drain. You care very little for other people’s lives dying in these wars, whether it be our troops or innocent civilians, you can just sit there and bravely post online insulting the only real candidate who will bring back all the troops home.

  • Jebril

    #149

    Funny these guys must be anti-semites too cuz they don’t like Israel and it’s policies:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oeB3QhX2RI

    I don’t know what it will take to turn Paul haters around but we’ll keep trying as long as they bring us nonsensical, ignorant arguments that forget the facts at the front door.

  • Bill Duke

    Post 206. I don’t think those were Teabaggers at all. I think they were plants. No Teabagger would ever call Paul stupid, they know better.

  • Jaymz

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZtPzOukjZA Paul warns us of the dangers of our foreign policies 1998.

  • Ron Brown

    I served in Vietnam. I tromped those leach infested jungles for 13 months. All most got my rear end shot off more than once, and for what? So for all you folks on here that want us to go to war at a drop of a hat you would certainly rethink that if you had ever had to do it in person. I know what it is like first hand and it is not nice at all. We left Vietnam with our tails between our legs. Why? Because our government never wanted us to win it in the first place. Body count my rear end. After I returned home it took me twenty years to figure all that out. Ho Chi Minh had a picture of George Washington on his wall and a copy of our declaration of Independents, as a matter of fact their declaration starts out just like ours does, exact same words. Oh I know we were fighting Communism. Like hell we were.
    We were fighting to save the sorry ass French period. North Vietnam was no more Communist than we were. They only turned to China because they could get arms no where else so they could get our sorry asses out of their country. Have we had one minutes trouble out of Vietnam since we dragged our rear ends home? Only thing I know is we lost 55000 good boys over there. Some of my friends are on that wall and I will never forget that. So cry war war war as long as your ass does not have to go. It is easy that way.
    Ron Paul is the smart and if you can not realize that then you are one messed up puppy.

  • Tim Frayham

    I am making a four foot by eight foot sing for Ron. Will place it before the week is over. That is how much I believe in him.

  • Gary Miller

    Look folks, forget about the media. If we win we will have to do it on our on and we can do it.
    Will it be easy? Not at all. We will have to work our butt’s completely off. Talk to and email your friends. Explain Paul’s positions because the media will certainly not do that. We have five good months so lets not let up. We need to give it all we got. Send money to Paul. buy signs and post them in your front yard. I am not rich by no means buy I donate ever time I have a few extra dollars. Just for once let’s stick it where the sun does not shine. Ron Paul 2012.

  • jimmyjim

    YOU IDOTS!!! 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!! FIGURE OUT THE TRUTH!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC9KZ2Yy5g4

  • Evil Otto

    YOU IDOTS!!! 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!! FIGURE OUT THE TRUTH!!!

    And this, Ron Paul supporters, is why you fail.

  • Evil Otto

    It’s a joke, anti-Paul people hating and are looking dumber and dumber, Ron Paul 2012, still winning.

    Like Charlie Sheen.

    Heh, I wish I’d stumbled across this thread last night. You Paul cultists are too funny for words. Your devotion to him resembles religious hysteria, not rational support for a politician. You do understand that Ron Paul is a politician, right, and not the second coming of Jesus?

    What’s even more hilarious are your incredibly thin skins. Oh dear, are people making fun of your chosen candidate? Get used to it, because in the infinitesimally unlikely event Paul were to win the nomination this is only a fraction of the slings and arrows you’d face. The Democrats would eat you alive in the general election (they’re very good at it), and right now you’re pissing all over the very people you’re going to need to help Paul win the presidency. Is this a winning campaign strategy? What’s your campaign slogan going to be? “Ron Paul 2012: Vote for him or f*ck off!”? Whether or not you like it, fanatics, you’re going to need us. Try acting like it if you want Paul to succeed.

    Thus far, fully 90% of the Paul supporters I’ve encountered have been @ssholes… bitter, filled with rage, often paranoid, often antisemitic, and often blatantly racist. Your “movement” attracts the far fringes of the conservatives and libertarians, the truthers and the kooks, and yet you think that this somehow translates to broad appeal, the kind that’s going to get your candidate through the primaries and off to the general election. You blanket internet polls with your fellow lunatics and then believe that you’re winning even though there’s no other sign of it. Tell you what… if you can win a state, any state, you’ll have something to crow about. Until then, they’re just empty words.

    Take this advice, or don’t: the one who yells loudest does not win the debate. Stop acting like deranged mental patients, grow thicker skins, and actually act like supporters of a politician rather than a cult of personality.

  • This is funny. Every time Ron Paul is the subject, the comment section gets flooded. 217 replies so far, and no end in sight. The Paulian Kool-Aid is overflowing.

    As I have repeatedly stated, it’s too early for me to jump on any one Republican’s bandwagon. But it’s not too early for me to decide that Ron Paul is, for lack of a more accurate word, crazy.

  • Patriot Steven

    Perhaps the people were booing because Ron Paul didn’t just come right out and say what every intelligent person aleady knows. The attacks on 9/11 were carried out by our own government to garner the support of the US sheople for going to war with Iraq and Afghansitan and taking away all our liberty and freedom at the same time. Anyone with any brains at all should know that by now and I won’t vote for anyone who doesn’t.

  • Gary

    Craig says 9/11 was an inside job.
    He also says Ron Paul is the only clear thinking candidate.
    Ron Paul says 9/11 was in response to U.S. presence in the Middle East.

    Which is it Craig?

    By the way, since you’ve posted to call U.S. troops murderers on several threads now, and since you attack the U.S. for being the “world’s police”, I have to ask, are you unaware that Canadian forces are right there with us?
    So what’s your answer to that, fellow world’s policeman? Fellow babykiller? Fellow hegemon?

  • Gary

    Donh
    I haven’t had much chance to agree with you lately, but you nailed it in #88.
    The “Paul bearers” put all their faith in this guy and they foam at the mouth because they learned it from their leader. Now they witness him being a complete charlatan.
    It’s a perfect parallel to this guy that predicted the end of the world this Spring, and all his followers sold their homes and lived on the street waiting for it to happen. Then it doesn’t happen, and now he realizes he miscalculated. Now it’s October. How must these idiots be feeling right now.

    Nobody likes being duped. Come in from the cold “Paul bearers”. We’ll get you the help that you need.

  • Gary

    Craig #93

    Wow, you nailed it. I have to say you finally convinced me.
    I never realized how Christians act just like Muslims until you pointed out how what the Muslims are doing today is just like what Christians did in 1478.
    When you’re right, you’re right.
    Hat tip.

  • Gary

    Craig #107
    You’re not American, and therefore, we do not recognize your determination of who is or is not a great American.

  • Gideon Reed

    Dr.Paul unraveled?
    He displayed his shoccking stupidity?
    No. Ron Paul was exposed to mind control by a team of Special Operators made up of Bilderbergers, the Mossad, the Isayeret of the LEOZ(Learned Elders of Zion) and just plain old JOOOOOZ!!!!
    They made him seem like he was going to do the Hokey Pokey, the Huckle Buck and fall to the floor writhing about and claaiming his drink was contaminated with snake pee.

  • I posted #218, then post #219 doubles down on the crazy.

    These Paul threads are great. More, please.

    What about starting a thread about how flying saucers come out of a hollow earth through a big hole near the North Pole? http://www.ourhollowearth.com/ourhollo/p3.html

  • Gary

    Craig #123

    Holy crap! we do agree on something. Stop all the funding. None to Israel. None to the Middle East. Let’s fix our own economic problems first.
    Oh I almost forgot. Let’s stop giving aid to Canada in the form of free trade agreements.

  • Daniel

    Oh the ignorance is appalling. Middle-eastern societies are irrational when it comes to militancy, but they do not attack the west because it is free.

    Why don’t they attack Switzerland? It’s much closer to the middle-east than the US is, and they’re pretty free. It’s because of their neutrality.

    If you look at Al-Qaeda’s track record, they have aimed attacks at the countries involved in Afganistan and Iraq. The US, UK, and Spain have all been in their scopes, and the reason for it is because they were involved in killing innocent people in the middle-east.

    Bin Laden stated this as the main reason. In his own words: “What determines the value of our children’s lives, as opposed to theirs? They have killed millions of innocent women and children in our home land.. Who dictated that our children are worthless, but theirs are so valuable?”

    In his own words, he stated that as the reason for the attacks.

    Ron Paul is not justifying their actions, but he is stating that these are violent people with a solid motivation to attack the US.

    And for people to just discard that idea is just delusional. Next time there is an attack on US soil, maybe a little self-examination would help.

    Truth hurts, and if the people don’t want to face the REAL issues that face the US, then maybe you shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

  • Gary

    Drew and Craig
    you have both cited this statistic about Ron Paul getting the most military contributions.
    once again, you leave out two key points.

    1. Barack Obama got the second highest. I don’t know where you got the 6% for Obama, but in 2008, it was Paul and Obama at the top:
    http://www.chron.com/news/nation-world/article/Paul-Obama-draw-support-from-military-voters-1842881.php
    and so far this year, it is also Paul and Obama at the top:
    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread729667/pg1

    2. You fail to mention the most important point. The total military contributions were in the thousands. Ron Paul lead with 94,000 dollars so far this year. That won’t even buy one coffee for every campaign volunteer. It’s meaningless in an election that will see over a billion dollars spent on both sides.

    I admire your dedication. If you had actual facts rather than selective snippets, you’d be a force to reckon with.

  • Gary

    Drew #128

    You’re right on all that.
    Except for the marijuana, those are the things we like about Ron Paul.
    It’s the “Iran can have nukes” “a fence will only keep us in” “9/11 is our fault” stuff that makes us roll our eyes at his presidential aspirations.

  • Gary

    Gary Bearstein #143

    The most recent poll I can find shows support for the war in Afghanistan at 43%:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/national-security/support-for-afghan-war-rises-poll-shows/2011/06/06/AGRokYKH_story.html

    How do you get that 95% oppose “the warmongering”.

    By the way Gary B., I do agree that war has never solved anything
    oh, except for:
    ending slavery in America
    ending Nazism in Germany
    ending Imperialism and Shintoism in Japan
    ending Fascism in Italy
    stopping the spread of Communism throughout Asia

    If you have an extra minute today, stop and thank a “warmonger”

  • Gary

    Craig and others
    You keep throwing around this stat that the US gives 7 times more in aid to Israel’s enemies than it does to Israel

    1. The most recent stat I can find is 3 times, not 7.
    2. The money to Israel all goes to Israel, while the money to its “enemies” goes to more than a dozen other countries separately. It isn’t like they all lump their money together.
    3. the money to Israel is often in the form of military assistance of varying types, whereas a lot of the aid to other Middle Eastern nations is in the form of charity food and other material. I certainly hope they don’t start building food bombs with it.
    4. The biggest recipient after Israel is Egypt, who gets about 2/3 what Israel gets. Until the recent overthrow, it was safe to say that Mubarak enforced a soft line toward Israel, even enforcing the blockade on ships that try to deliver weapons to the Palestinians. Not a very potent enemy if you ask me.

  • Gary

    Patriot Steven #219

    You say anyone with a brain eh?
    So can you use your brain and explain to us why the US needed to go to war with Iraq and Afghanistan? The US’s last involvement in Afghanistan was helping the Mujahedeen forces fend off Russian occupation in the late 70s. Why the sudden interest?
    As for who you’re voting for, if you think 9/11 was an inside job, you’re probably also that special kind of genius that doesn’t know where to go vote. Let’s all hope so anyway.

  • Gary

    Daniel,
    I think you take this too literally.
    They’re not saying simply that Muslims attack us because we’re free.
    Islam preaches that everybody has to be converted and it is Muslims’ duty to do the converting.
    The U.S. is the icon of western non-Muslim financial and military might that shows the whole world an alternative path to the miserable life of bowing to Mecca five times a day and beating your wife.
    The U.S. also helps Israel maintain its defense force so that it isn’t constantly attacked (even though they are still regularly attacked on a small scale).
    Muslims think that giving the US a big black eye by knocking over the WTC towers that symbolize western power, they can rally people in the Middle East to their cause.
    That’s why they attacked.

    Some people simplify that by saying “they attacked us because we’re free”, but now I hope you understand what they mean by that.

  • donh

    Here is a tribute to Stan Lauren for all you Ron Paul Boo Hoo clown lovers …. http://youtu.be/Nc52OMftJSk

  • BS61

    #177 September 13, 2011 at 2:00 am
    Ron Santo commented:
    RainbowJanebow,
    Your KoolAid drinking is not gonna end well for you. This country is gonna take a major dump and you’re essentially fracked. But that’s the price you pay for betting on the wrong team. Wish I could say that I care.

    And that’s the main problem I see with RP fans, you don’t care.

  • David

    If they attacked us for our freedoms when does Canada get it? Austrailia? Also, how many freedoms have you lost to say you are free to the terrorist? Poor people.

    Ron Paul 2012!

  • BS61

    #206 September 13, 2011 at 4:44 am
    Jebril commented:
    When I read the anti-paul posts I smile from cheek to cheek cuz I know they are factually wrong, hell I even laugh out loud at times.

    Many of you have no clue about what are foreign policy was before 9/11 and the notion that someone is willing to blow themselves up for god and because they hate these free and prosperous people is simply an attempt to blind yourself from the truth.

    So what do you make of Thomas Jefferson sending the first Navy over to battle Muslim pirates? What about his conversation on why do you kill and kidnap when we have done nothing to you? Answer, if you don’t believe what we do, our Quran says to kill you.

  • jane

    I see the ron paul kool aid drinking zombies are here in full force. they probably also voted for the america hating obama.

  • More Liberty

    LOL…Gateway Pundit isn’t very intelligent. We have been bombing Iraq for OVER ten years. Look up Operation Desert Fox. It was a four-day bombing campaign of Iraqi targets in December of 1998.

    In the summer of 2000 the USA and the UK were bombing Iraq.

    These are facts Gateway Pundit.

  • Let’s take this thread to 300 comments. Come on, I know we can do it.

  • Ben

    You people on here are ignorant..Ron Paul speaks the TRUTH. Even if you want to keep dropping bombs on the other side of the world and killing people we can’t afford to do it anymore…I figured all u crazy murderers would be happy with 10 years of killing…nope you want to keep going…want a bunch of idiots.

  • nosferotica

    Don’t believe it was hundreds of thousands in the middle east?

    Just listen to Madeline Aubright talk about how 500,000 dead Iraqi children was worth the price during the mid 90s.

    Paul isn’t nuts; America truly has no value or respect for human life.

  • Kathie

    It’s very courageous of Ron Paul to defend the truth in front of groups of people who have been either brainwashed or are so arrogant that they think our Country is in the right to interfere with other countries civil wars, propping up either weak leaders or dictators and arbitrarily decide who to bomb. Arrogance is not part of the formula of Patriotism.

    Patriotism with a mix of courage is telling the people when our country as gone off course from the Constitution.

    Santorum is neither. He is a talking head for the military complex and bringing up a blog on Ron Paul’s website was just to get an emotional response from the people after the 10 year anniversary of 911.

    Ron Paul is repeating what the terrorists said. You have to know your enemy to defeat them; Santorum ignores what the terrorist say and continues down the same path of “they are envious of us”. Arrogance at its best.

  • David

    Poor Gary. Let me ask you. If the USA was surrounded by foreign troops and that country asked us to get rid of our Nukes would we? Think about that. Imagine Iran being in Canada and Mexico and asking us to give up our weapons. Gary would obviously. Typical establishment sheep.

  • Kathie

    And you have to know your enemy to keep them from defeating you. Prior to and more aggressively and stupidly after 911 we have allowed them to defeat us day by day. Are we better off economically since we have propped up dictators in these countries just to bring them down years later, fought their civil wars, occupied these countries? Ask a US family member who has lost a loved one …. are they better off?

    These terrorists know our weaknesses and we need to learn from this and admit we have done some wrongs in these countries. Patriotism is not blindly following a path to our destruction and ignoring our Constitution. Patriotism is the courage and fortitude to admit our mistakes and to correct them.

  • Homer

    All Americans would like to think that all we do around the world is good and that we’re righteous in our intents. However, what a lot of Americans turn a blind eye to is that we do a lot of unethical things around the world and that we do kill innocent people who are considered “collateral damage”. It is the deaths of innocent people around the world, that are directly related to US attacks, that breeds hate for our country. The terrorist already hate us – we get that. What we do that doesn’t help us is that we kill innocent people who then in turn, make the country hate us even more and this turns the victims and their families to join our enemy in their cause and attack the US. People need to accept that the US is not as righteous as we think we are and that we do cause harm around the world. You are probably living under a rock if you don’t realize this. There are a lot of screwed up things around the world that the media doesn’t report. You have to turn to the internet to get any credible evidence about US activities around the world.

  • Paz

    The truth hurts, neocons/RINOs.

  • BigT

    Well according to Osama Bin Laden’s own message in 2002
    …. Why are we fighting and opposing you?
    Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple:
    (1) Because you attacked us and continue to attack us.

    Full text: bin Laden’s ‘letter to America’

    Sounds pretty clear to me, in the terrorists own words …. more so they attacked because we are free … phpt !!!

    You may not like what Ron Paul said – some times the truth is a hard pill to swallow … much less – Ron Paul has said this for many years now and is consistent – not a typical flag waving waffling politician.

  • Jamie

    Actually bin laden had an interview in 1998 with abc news. Ron Paul repeated exactly what bin laden said, he would attack us until we leave their countries, and if not he would cause a war that will financially drain us until we collapse. Just as he did with Russia… But anybody who watches fox news wouldn’t have seen that. Ron Paul 2012!

  • Homer

    Osama said this in his 1996 Fatwa:

    “It should not be hidden from you that the people of Islam had suffered from aggression, iniquity and injustice imposed on them by the Zionist-Crusaders alliance and their collaborators; to the extent that the Muslims blood became the cheapest and their wealth as loot in the hands of the enemies. Their blood was spilled in Palestine and Iraq. The horrifying pictures of the massacre of Qana, in Lebanon are still fresh in our memory. Massacres in Tajakestan, Burma, Cashmere, Assam, Philippine, Fatani, Ogadin, Somalia, Erithria, Chechnia and in Bosnia-Herzegovina took place, massacres that send shivers in the body and shake the conscience. All of this and the world watch and hear, and not only didn’t respond to these atrocities, but also with a clear conspiracy between the USA and its’ allies and under the cover of the iniquitous United Nations, the dispossessed people were even prevented from obtaining arms to defend themselves.

    The latest and the greatest of these aggressions, incurred by the Muslims since the death of the Prophet (ALLAH’S BLESSING AND SALUTATIONS ON HIM) is the occupation of the land of the two Holy Places – the foundation of the house of Islam, the place of the revelation, the source of the message and the place of the noble Ka’ba, the Qiblah of all Muslims – by the armies of the American Crusaders and their allies.”

  • What you think benj amen we keep this Ron Paul out of the main stream media and stiill he grows more popular each day,we have our x slaves x i mean friends working 24/7 putting him down yet still he grows.Maybe we put the kuputz on him like we do with JFK when he start talking about our secret societies.Yes if he get the gop nomination we disapear him.All that money we have invested in Perry my baal,Then we take care of The ugly truth podbean.com and Mr Friend”s Blog with the ADL.Yes this the way to go saul.

  • JD

    If china or some other nation came over here and started meddling in our affairs, soldiers walking up and down the street gawking at our women, using military force against us, etc…, I would set up roadside bombs. I would attack the enemy. And if I had a chance, I would fly an airplane into one of their major financial, and military complexes. Any other USA loving person would do the same. Think about it.

  • To paraphrase Dingy Harry Reid: “This thread is lost.”

  • Mike

    Ron Paul is an uneducated, anti-American dolt who has his lips planted firmly on the hairy asses of the Ayatollahs, and the dead hairy asses of Saddam and bin Laden. We were attacked on 9/11 because we stand for freedom and islamo-facists stand for slavery. For example, we liberated 30 million Iraqis and 30 million Afghans since 9/11 and 6 million Libyans (Obama it seems can be correct on an issue once in a while).

    No wonder Americans hate Ron Paul (that goes double for the members of the military.)

  • Mike

    JD, we didnt meddle in Iraq and Afghanistan, we liberated them. If the US was ruled by a dictator who used WMD on Americans and Iraq freed us from that person and captured that person and allowed us to try and execute that person for wer crimes I would welcome them like liberators (as did the Iragis in 2003).

    Paulians need to pull their heads out of their insane idols ass and come back to the real world.

  • Gary

    David
    I have to admit I don’t follow your reasoning.
    You say imagine the US surrounded by foreign troops demanding that we give up our nukes.
    And then you say I would? I don’t see how you reach that conclusion.

    Are you saying that Iran is on the same moral footing as the US? The same Iran that said it would not rest until Israel was wiped off the map? That’s the one that is just like the US in its quest for nuclear weapons?

    The US was the first to have nukes, and we’ve had them since 1945, and we haven’t used them since 1945. If Iran gets the nuke in 2012, it’s going to use it in 2012, on Israel no doubt.

    It’s funny to me that you think Iran is the same force for good in the world as the US.
    It’s also funny that with a name like David, you’re ready to watch Israel be vaporized rather than admit the flaw in your moral equivalency argument.

    Poor David.

  • Gary

    Red Beard
    It’s no challenge to reach a 300 post thread.

    All you have to do is swing by every half hour or so and say “Ron Paul is a nut who could never be elected president”.

    It’s always good for about 20 or 30 mouth-foaming responses.

  • Gary

    Also notice all the false facts and statistics put up by the “Paul bearers” (I guess I stole that Donh)
    I spent about half an hour this morning pointing out the false stats and the selectively included information in them, and so far no response.

    Remember this. These idiots have been posting the same lies and half-truths for weeks.
    Just like with the libs, we have to keep correcting the record, or else the lazy-minded among us might be swayed.

  • Our own CIA has said the primary reason and most strong motivation among the radical jihadists acts of terrorism is due to our foreign entanglements, whether it be setting and propping up US puppet dictators all over the region going back years and years.

    We radicalized and trained muslims to combat the soviet union, now we are involved in libya supplying arms and UN\nato(we are the UN\nato) air support to topple another dictator who we’ve also been supplyng cash too for years! We are hooraying the libyan rebels now, this is a never ending cycle, it is bankrupting us make no doubt about it.

    These suicide bombers who lack any real knowledge of the world including the freedoms and “exceptionalisms” are motivated by the occupation of holy lands and the carnage of war, the loss of loved ones, etc… Factor in a very one sided affair (israel) in the region and I think the CIA’s idea of blowback is very real and very dangerous!

    Now Agree or disagree with Mr. Paul on this matter if you wish but you cannot turn a blind eye to these facts. This all comes down to the fact that we have taken on more then just a police of the world role, we have taken on the role of nation builders, and dictator choosing, these entanglements must end eventually, how are we to sustain this across the globe militarism if you do not agree with Mr Paul please explain how these adventures will continute without bankrupting us of military life and treasure. These entanglements make us no safer they put our young in deadly endless conflict and if never ending is the biggest threat to ou way of life

  • David

    Poor Gary. “Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran”…Remember that guy you voted for? Please just stop. Go hump the establishments leg then in a few years cry about why nothing is changing. Now send your kids to the Middle East. You wont. Next please.

  • David

    Gary when does Canada get attacked for their freedom? LOl oops. I love the TV sheep.

  • jdawg
  • Homer

    Mike wrote, “No wonder Americans hate Ron Paul (that goes double for the members of the military.)”

    You are incorrect Mike. Nothing can be further from the truth.

    Ron Paul has received the MOST donations from our military. Check your facts: FEC site http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2011/Q2/

    You say Ron Paul is uneducated when it looks like you’re the one that lacks the necessary skill to do research and likes to present fiction as fact. He has a doctorate in medicine. What do you have? Hmm…

  • billy jo mcalester

    Has everyone seen all the big trucks everywhere? All these people with money? Having more financial freedom than most other people?

    You know what? I think we should attack them! We should attack them for having more financial freedom than us! We should attack them because they have better homes! We should attack them because of who they are!

    Yep, that’s exactly what those “terrorists” were saying about attacking the US because of our “freedoms” and because of “who we are”. That is just plain ridiculous.
    They attacked us because we have been in perpetual war all over the world since WWII. We’ve been occupying their countries, killing their people, trying to install new governments that cater to the US against the will of the people that live there, and we’ve been stealing their natural resources. Not to mention they consider this area their “Holy Land”.

    Those are the real reasons we were attacked on 9/11, and they will be the reasons we will eventually be hit again. As long as we try to get in everyone elses’ business and run them over, they will hate us. That’s a fact.

    I mean, surely Desert Storm had nothing to do with the first WTC bombing, and surely Desert Fox had nothing to do with the 9/11 WTC attacks.

  • gabe

    #70, yes your right . but so am I. they deacended from
    tukrey into Israel 2 centuries after the destruction of the 2nd temple
    then migrated to Poland n germany. atleast this is what ive reas

  • Mike

    #236 September 13, 2011 at 8:15 am
    David commented:
    If they attacked us for our freedoms when does Canada get it? Austrailia? Also, how many freedoms have you lost to say you are free to the terrorist? Poor people.

    Ron Paul 2012!

    Australia allready got it, as did the UK and Spain. Duuuh. Paulians, as thick as Ron himself. Its a match made in heaven!

  • Jebril

    #254

    Ron Paul is an uneducated, anti-American dolt who has his lips planted firmly on the hairy asses of the Ayatollahs, and the dead hairy asses of Saddam and bin Laden. We were attacked on 9/11 because we stand for freedom and islamo-facists stand for slavery. For example, we liberated 30 million Iraqis and 30 million Afghans since 9/11 and 6 million Libyans (Obama it seems can be correct on an issue once in a while).

    No wonder Americans hate Ron Paul (that goes double for the members of the military.)

    #217 September 13, 2011 at 5:35 am
    Evil Otto commented

    We like a guy sorry, we don’t like irrational posts that are basically lies and ignorant.

    Notice the lies in this? Like how more military members donate to Ron Paul more than any other candidate?

    Right, this is why we post. Everytime there’s a Ron Paul thread a bunch of idiots get on it going, OH GOLLY ITS DOES TWILIGHT LIKE FANGIRLS THAT SUPPORT RON PAUL, and then spout some retarded opinions based off lies and ignorance. These things wouldn’t be filled with comments if morons didn’t keep lying in their comments.

    Still winning, you mad bro?

  • Mike

    #263 September 13, 2011 at 10:52 am
    Homer commented:

    You say Ron Paul is uneducated when it looks like you’re the one that lacks the necessary skill to do research and likes to present fiction as fact. He has a doctorate in medicine. What do you have? Hmm…

    Seriously? Thats all you have got? Self reported numbers from the FEC website for contributions over $200. Its well known that Paulians spam the political process to make their pathetic movement look relevant, how else does you nutty idol win straw polls?

    You guys are as thick as Ron himself.

  • raybojabo

    @ #238 jane commented:
    “I see the ron paul kool aid drinking zombies are here in full force. they probably also voted for the america hating obama”

    I agree, I bet over 90% of them voted for Odumbo from the way they talk. I hear the same old tired bs coming out of commie Odumbo supporters.

  • Jon Silver

    Denial is the most powerful force on earth. Most of these posts prove that.

  • Homer

    Guess little Mikey doesn’t like the facts no matter where they come from. Poor baby. Go cry in a corner.

  • More Liberty

    Ron Paul wasn’t attacking the American people. He was simply stating that the actions by the federal government pissed people off. And as such, we got attacked. Regardless if you love endless war and occupation, redistribution of wealth, TSA love gropes, or whatever – the fact remains that if the US government, paid for by the taxpayers, had stopped protecting other nations this might not have happened.

  • Mike

    #271 September 13, 2011 at 11:36 am
    Homer commented:
    Guess little Mikey doesn’t like the facts no matter where they come from. Poor baby. Go cry in a corner.

    I guess little Homey cant take it when forced to face the truth that his BFF Ron is not as awesome as Homey once thought. Cant wait to see the Paulians cry like spanked school girls when senile Ronny is thrown out of the race.

  • Mike

    Note to Paulians, attacking America while at the same time sucking up to islamo facism is not a winning strategy (not to mention the profoundly evil of such an approach).

  • Jon Silver

    Hmmmm………who to vote for? Red or blue? My overwhelming freedom of choice is to mind boggling. Do I support the candidate who is paid off by the insurance and pharmaceutical companies or the candidate who is paid off by the defence contractors? Oh wait, they’re all owned and controlled by the central banks anyway so it doesn’t matter.
    Ignorance sure is strength.

  • 275 posts. Come on, you Paulians; we can make it to 300. Don’t weaken now.

  • Danj3ris

    Ron Paul didn’t blame the US for being attacked on 911. Did anyone actually listen to what he said? I feel like I’m on Facebook. People take everything out of context.

    He explained the effects of what America stands for, summed up nicely by Santorum, : “American Exceptionalism. We stand for freedom and opportunity for everyone around the world.” Those effects being 1. Us not treating an ethnicity fairly. 2. US having a base on Holy Muslim land in Saudi Arabia. 3. US occupying a foreign country (Iraq) for ten years and putting them under a constant state of war.

    The US isn’t to blame for a terrorist attack. The US as one country, standing for something which effects people outside the US, who have their own histories and policies and beliefs, is what caused the attacks on 911. Where the hell did I come up with this? From the guy that masterminded the attacks. But how dare anyone who wants to run a country tell us what an evil man said, even if it’s the very reasons why the US was attacked, coming from the mouth of the man who did the attacking.

    How sad. The reasons why 911 happened, and instead of hearing them, people boo.

    The US has taken nationalism and turned it into colonialism. “Let’s make everyone around the world just like us! …and reap the benefits.” If I were any other country, with my own sense of nationalism, I’d be RATHER annoyed. I’m American and I’m annoyed.

  • David

    Mike stop begging for the government to keep you safe. Poor liberal gov humping trolls.

  • Jon Silver

    Be like us or we’ll kill you! That’s Freedom.

  • Mike

    David, stop making sweet gay-love to hairy islamo fasicts in the hopes that thay wont hurt you. Poor little weak, limp wristed school girl.

  • Craig

    “So it’s not so much OUR FREEDOM that they hate….it is the Freedom that we are bringing to their women.” (#194)

    You’re kidding, right? Because this is really funny. Now in Irak, woman have to wear scarfs again. In Libya, Nato give the country to the Muslim Brotherhood, women will have to wear scarfs now. Everywhere the US go, it gets much worse.

    And you tell me to read History? Those have always been my prefered books. I know about History but you don’t seem to. If you would, you would know that corrupted government like yours, always use False Flags to enslave the citizens. They create a false ennemy, a bogeyman to scare you to death, and then they confiscate all your rights.

    Please, please, in the name of God or of your country or of whatever, please wake-up! If you care one bit about your country or your daughters and sons, please wake-up or you will have no future.

  • Jon Silver

    Craig gets it. One yankee down. 299,999 to go.

  • Mike

    ” Everywhere the US go, it gets much worse.”

    Riiiiight. Iraq, now a representative democracy, once a police state where Saddam used mustard gas on his own people and carried out genocidal environmental destruction, is much worse. Afghanistan, one a theocratic, stone age, heaven on earth for al-Qaida, now free from the Taliban is much worse. (Lets hope Obongo dosnt retreat and throw away all the gains made by the US military). LOL at you people.

  • Mike

    281 September 13, 2011 at 12:14 pm
    Craig commented:

    “corrupted government like yours”

    Like ours eh? Now it becomes clear, you arnt even an American and you support Ron Paul. I wonder how many Paulians are American hating foreigners who love Ron because he will weaken their enemy? Welcome to the forum Achmed.

  • Craig

    ” Craig, Wow, you nailed it. I have to say you finally convinced me.
    I never realized how Christians act just like Muslims until you pointed out how what the Muslims are doing today is just like what Christians did in 1478.
    When you’re right, you’re right. Hat tip.” Gary (#122)

    Thanks Gary! I appreciate your comment since it is the first time on this site that this happens from a regular poster of this site. You see, all I’m trying to do here is to give facts. I’m an History book junky guy. I know History. I’m also a Constitution junky, I read most of the Constitutions in the world. I know what I’m talking about.

    And I know this: If US citizens don’t wake-up now to all the fraud that is being perpetrated on them, there will be no future for none of us. You will play a major role in the world future because the corruption comes from the Federal Reserve. If you do not abolish it, we are all be doomed and will live under the tyranical unelected NWO.

    I just wish I could debate in French. I tried translation sites, but they are ridiculousley innacurate. As a matter of facts, sometimes they almost translate the opposite of what you wrote. They are not reliable.

    Have a nice day!

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  • Craig

    “Let’s stop giving aid to Canada in the form of free trade agreements” Gary (#226)

    Gary, everytime I order online in the US, I have to pay customs fees, and beleive me, they are high. I wonder why? I thought we had free trade agreement between our two countries.
    Do you have any idea why that is?

  • nader paul kucinich gravel mckinney baldwin ventura

    Gateway Pundit has no objection to a real
    independent investigation of 9 11
    with power of subpoena

  • Jon Silver

    Mike You are what is wrong with America.

  • Craig

    “Oh the ignorance is appalling. Middle-eastern societies are irrational when it comes to militancy, but they do not attack the west because it is free. Why don’t they attack Switzerland? It’s much closer to the middle-east than the US is, and they’re pretty free. It’s because of their neutrality.” Daniel (#227)

    Great argument! I like sharp thinking people like you.

  • Jon Silver

    Gary, Gary, Gary. Aid to Canada? They provide us with over 30% of our energy needs at a ridiculously low price. They are in effect providing aid to us and we didn’t even have to bomb or sanction them. Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth Gary.

  • Craig

    @ Daniel (#227)

    But on the other hand, Daniel, the criminal and corrupted Cartel of International banksters would never staged a False Flag in Switzerland. They need this country to stash away their money and gold…lol

  • Jon Silver

    Bang on Craig. Any of these false flag denying pseudo patriots should try making a cell call on their next flight. FYI neo cons: YOU CAN’T!!!

  • David

    Poor Mike is scared of islam when more Americans die right here by domestic gangs. I love these sheep. Turn your TV up louder. You might miss something.

  • David

    To the idiot who is asking why Australia didn’t get it from the Muslims. Australia did get it – around 100 were killed in Bali by a bunch of jihadists who deliberately set out to target Australian infidels

    Anyone that believes Islam is a religion of peace, go and read the Koran and see for yourself

    If the Ron Paul logic was true, the Japanese would be blowing themselves up in the US in protest of all the American bases there

  • Craig

    “If they attacked us for our freedoms when does Canada get it?” David (236)

    Probably never, because our government does not do False Flags attacks in our own country. You see, the base of the corrupted and criminal International banskters base is not in Canada, but in the US, thru the Federal Reserve. And if there was ever a real attack, they surely wouldn’t help them to succeed.

    We didn’t go to war in Irak. We went to Afghanistan because at the time, we had a liberal Prime Minister who drank the Kool aid about 9/11 and he thought we should help a friend (the US). When conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper got elected, he said, we will honnor our word to stay there till 2011, but we will pull out at that date. And we did.

  • Mike

    #289 September 13, 2011 at 1:02 pm
    Jon Silver commented:
    Mike You are what is wrong with America.

    Jon, I doubt it, Im not a liberal or a Paulbot.

  • Mike

    “If they attacked us for our freedoms when does Canada get it?” David (236)

    Sadly it could be anytime, after all th UK, Spain, Kenya and Australia were all attacked beacause of their freedom.

  • Mike

    #294 September 13, 2011 at 1:19 pm
    David commented:
    Poor Mike is scared of islam

    But Dave, its you Paulbots who are trembling in your boots and begging for a retreat from Afghanistan and Iraq.

  • Mike

    Why don’t they attack Switzerland?

    From the WaPo

    In an intelligence report completed in May, the Swiss Federal Police reversed previous assessments that the domestic risk of terrorism was nearly nonexistent. The report concluded that Switzerland had become “a jihadi field of operation” and predicted that terrorist attacks were “an increasing possibility.”

    Ouch, Paulbots run headfirst into reality.

  • Jon Silver

    Mike you’d probably support Fox news writing the next generations history text books wouldn’t you?

  • Mike

    #301 September 13, 2011 at 1:39 pm
    Jon Silver commented:
    Mike you’d probably support Fox news writing the next generations history text books wouldn’t you?

    LOL Jon. You are such a liberal. Keep blowing wet kisses to Obama.

  • V

    The sad matter of the fact is that (and it almost causes physical pain to say this) Ron Paul is right in this instance: in the minds of muslims of the middle east, we are far from blameless. WE don’t think so, of course, but they see the world differently. We relied on our ‘good intentions’ and forgot what the left has taught us for AGES now: good intentions are meaningless, only effects matter, and those that look only at their good intentions, and not their effects, will create more and more horrific bad outcomes than people who recognize that good intentions CAN and DO produce bad outcomes that have to be managed and mitigated. Failing to recognize this and deal with it effectively is the central failing in our middle east policy (and policies around the world).

    It’s not a matter of “being wrong” in the major aspects of our policy and “we deserved 9/11” I’ll leave to the morons to spout, but the idea that we are pure white and utterly without blame is absurd. To fail to recognize it, or to — as was done in the clip — wrap yourself in the flag and say it’s irresponsible to speak the truth…that’s another kind of idiocy.

  • Ron Paul was right! Here is scientific proof: http://bit.ly/pbCRdQ

    “You can’t handle the truth”

  • Jon Silver

    Sorry Mikey, I dislike Obama as much as you do. The republican / democrat debate is the distraction that keeps people from seeing the truth. As far as politicians who tell the truth Ron Paul is by far the most honest, that doesn’t mean I agree with everything the man says. Be honest do you think Bachman, Perry or Romney really have your best interest in mind?

  • Mike

    @ V #303 September 13, 2011 at 1:42 pm

    V, you would have a point if the US had failed to liberate Iraq and Afghanistan and establish better lives for the people of those countries.

    I also disagree with you when you say “Ron Paul is right in this instance”. He has a lot of good points on domestic policy, his foreign policy is insane and relagates him to joke status.

  • Mike

    #305 September 13, 2011 at 1:50 pm
    Jon Silver commented:

    Be honest do you think Bachman, Perry or Romney really have your best interest in mind?

    More so than Paul. He dosnt want to do the one job that the Federal government is clearly ment to do, defend the nation from hostile foreign powers.

  • Woohoo! Thanks to all you Paulians, this thread has topped the 300 reply mark. Way to go!

    Now, get on the phone, call your friends, and try for 400. What the heck; make it 500.

  • David

    “Anyone that believes Islam is a religion of peace, go and read the Koran and see for yourself”

    Maybe you meant “anyone the believes Christianity is a religion of peace, go read the Old Testement”

    I love you religious sheep. “my God is better then yours” types.

  • David

    Mike how do you defeat terrorism? Or rapist? Or child molesters? Just travel around the world and find them? Poor guy. You my friend are a sheep. Defend home. Go live in Iraq if you love them so much. When do we get the terrorist on our own border? Then we can move the Somoli pirates. Then we can start over from the beginning because terrorism will never end. The terrorist have won. They got what they wanted. Pussies like you terrified of them and our rights being stripped one by one. To keep your bitch ass safe of course. Pussy ass establishment voters. Go back to bed.

  • Jon Silver

    You’re right Mike. The government is supposed to defend against hostile entities, not police the world. We can’t afford it and the notion that these wars must be fought in the name of freedom will bankrupt us. So no matter how justified you think these wars may be, we simply can’t afford them.

  • Ben

    can we please stop dropping bombs on countries around the world? Haven’t we killed enough people? PLus we are broke…so can’t we stop bombing please? I know how much you want to kill other people, but we just can’t afford the ammo anymore.. Thanks.

    Ben Stear

  • atticcellar

    Considering the number of Ron Paul supporters on this thread it is obvious that he is a real, valid threat to the right, left paradigm.. Banksters control both sides of the coin. Ron Paul is a threat to their NWO plans which include using the US military to eliminate the remaining opposition to their global governance. It’s time to restore the constitutional republic. It’s time for real change.. Ron Paul 2012

  • Evil Otto

    #267 September 13, 2011 at 11:18 am
    Jebril commented:

    Still winning, you mad bro?

    Good God, I really am arguing with Charlie Sheen. What exactly have you “won?” A primary? A poll done by a reputable polling firm? The hearts and minds of the rest of the right? None of the above?

    Get back to me when Paul wins a state. Until then, no one is impressed by trash-talk. We’ve heard it before from you religious fanatics, the last time in 2008 when Ron Paul didn’t ever get out of single digits. You kooks are loud and obnoxious, granted, but you don’t have it where it counts: the ballot box. And you never will, because you’re your candidate’s worst enemies. If you want to know why Ron Paul isn’t more successful, look in the mirror. You are to blame.

    I’m going to say this again: You Ron Paul supports, you’re frikkin’ lunatics. Look at the collection of paranoid, fanatical kooks we’ve accumulated in this thread alone and tell me how you’re going to win the national election. Do you think the “nasty, paranoid, hate-filled douchebag” strategy is going to win you support? Hell, do you think at all?

  • Evil Otto

    Considering the number of Ron Paul supporters on this thread it is obvious that he is a real, valid threat to the right, left paradigm..

    Please. “Loud” does not equal “victory.” You Paulbots blanket any thread on any blog that mentions your Messiah and pretend that you have numbers on your side. You don’t. You do have a virtual monopoly on the right’s “crazy, paranoid douchebag” faction, granted, but that’s not going to win you the presidency.

  • Houston

    Seriously, can you not THINK? Paul is absolutely right. We occupied the Muslim holy land, and they didn’t like that. Do you think it’s just a coincidence that all 19 of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia?

    Here is Al Qaeda’s 1998 Fatwa, which condemns the US for supporting Israel, stationing troops in Saudi Arabia, and imposing sanctions against Iraq:
    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international/fatwa_1998.html

    It is you Fox “News” educated people who have no clue what is going on who are destroying the country simply by voting; this is not the result of some “libtard’s” policies. How about you do some research on your own before criticizing the only honest politician in Washington. I’ll even help you start!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2984547.stm

  • Mike

    #310 September 13, 2011 at 2:08 pm
    David commented:
    Mike how do you defeat terrorism? Or rapist? Or child molesters? Just travel around the world and find them? Poor guy. You my friend are a sheep. Defend home. Go live in Iraq if you love them so much. When do we get the terrorist on our own border? Then we can move the Somoli pirates. Then we can start over from the beginning because terrorism will never end. The terrorist have won. They got what they wanted. Pussies like you terrified of them and our rights being stripped one by one. To keep your bitch ass safe of course. Pussy ass establishment voters. Go back to bed.

    How do you defeat terrorism? You do what Bush did post 9/11. You hunt them down and kill them and establish democracies where terrorism dosnt thrive. Bush defeated terrorism as shown by the fact that we have not been attacked since 9/11. Countries such as Spain and Russia which failed to take and aggresive and forward leaning approach have suffered continual attacks. The terrorists have failed, OBL is dead, Saddam is dead, there is democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan, islamo-facism is in decline because Bush forced al-Qaida into a desperate over reach that has made Moslims hate them. The MILF in the Phillipines is on the run because of US assistance, AQAP is blown up ever day by US drones in Yemen, al-Qaida in Pakistan, same thing, Shabab in Somalia, the same thing coupled with the help of the US trained African union.

    Pussy ass bitch Paulbots must learn this and not live in a fantasy.

  • atticcellar

    Evil Otto, Once again instead of offering any sound logic to you opposition to the Honorable Dr. Ron Paul you offer more slander and name calling.. Ron Paul is the only honest, not in the pocket of the criminal banking cartel candidate on the ballot.. Ron Paul 2012

  • Mike

    ” #316 September 13, 2011 at 2:42 pm
    Houston commented:

    Seriously, can you not THINK? Paul is absolutely right. We occupied the Muslim holy land, and they didn’t like that. Do you think it’s just a coincidence that all 19 of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia?”

    Ouch, you just shot a hole in your own foot. We didnt occupy the Muslim holy land of Saudi Arabia, ha, you are funny.

  • Anna

    Are you folks really that uneducated about what got us attacked? Seriously?

    That really worries me…Even Faux news reported on what OBL said was the reason..our presence in Saudi Arabia during the first Gulf War and how Saudi chose US to go into Kuwait instead of OBL’s Mujahadeen….not to mention our support of Israel.

    You guys need to recognize that the media is dominated by certain factions in this country and world that don’t want you to have the truth…

    …what position do you think the media has on Israel, for example? This should be a no brainer…do you really think they want to keep reminding you that support for Israel helped cause the worst attack we’ve ever had on this soil? Would YOU?

    Of course not! So they crush it…but PAUL IS TELLING YOU THE TRUTH.

    Do some freakin’ studying people…don’t just follow the media’s take on stuff. They LIE. Your country depends on it.

  • Jon Silver

    Are you a christian Mike? Do you think Jesus would support killing Bin Laden?
    Eye for an eye makes the world blind.

  • David

    LOL Mike says “bush defeated terrorism” LOL thank you! Tell Laura hello for me. UMM you know Bush didnt kill OBL right? You are hilarious. I was taking you seriously for a minute. Why are you worried about Paul’s foreign policy if bush defeated the terrorist? LOl i love sheep.

  • David

    Thats like saying “Bush had a great economy” except the fact he left on a stimulus bill (TARP). LOL

  • atticcellar

    Iraq is not a democracy. It is an occupied country. 50,000 US troops and 100,000 private mercenaries paid to keep the boot on the throats of the people. Same thing with Afghanistan.. 100,00 plus boots on the ground plus private mercenaries “contractors”. Boot licking puppets placed in charge, all while placing the many trillions of dollars tab on the back of the American people. As the American people are placed deeper and deeper into debt to these banksters we loose more and more freedom.. The debtor is slave to the lender.. Each American family now in debt to the bankster to the tune of 150,000 dollars and growing. It’s time for a Ron Paul revolution.. Ron Paul 2012

  • Evil Otto

    #318 September 13, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    Sweetheart, do not lecture me about namecalling. Not on this thread. I want you to do yourself a favor… read the thread. Read the comments from Ron Paul supporters. Tell me that acting like deranged howler monkeys, that your vile conspiracy theories, that your utter contempt for anyone who dares to question the “Honorable Dr. Ron Paul” (I can practically hear the religious reverence) is going to win you the election. C’mon, tell me.

    Do I insult Paul? You’re damned right I do. Do I have contempt for the crazies who support him? Yes. Get used to it, because if you think we here at Gateway are bad you haven’t seen anything yet… if Ron Paul wins the nomination (not gonna happen, by the way), the Democrats will make what’s going on here look like first-grade slap fight. THEY WILL EAT YOU ALIVE. They’re very, very good at it.

    You Paul supporters act like religious fanatics, not like people who support a politician. You have even thinner skins than Barack Obama supporters, and that is saying something. You can’t stand for anyone, anywhere to say something negative about Ron Paul.

    Grow the hell up, stop with the truther bullsh!t, and grow thicker skins. If you truly want to win, act like it.

  • Mike

    @ Anna

    Ha ha. Another racist anti-Arab Paulbot. The US should not have liberated Kuwait? No wonder the Middle East hates Ron Paul.

  • David

    Mike worked for Arbusto Energy. He loves Bush and the Bin Ladens. Check and mate.

  • David

    What kills more? Terrorism? Electracution? Hot weather? Cold weather? Dogs? Police? Drowning? Prescription pills? Falling down stairs? Alcohol? Cigarettes? Drunk drivers? or Guns? I dont know but terrorism was dead last. Good try Mike!

  • Iconoclast

    I am forced to conclude Dr. Paul obtained his degree before his delusional fantasies became so pronounced . . . . Well, also, people weren’t being tested for drug use before obtaining licenses. What a whack job, the GOP answer to joey hairplugs.

  • Mike

    ” #321 September 13, 2011 at 2:49 pm
    Jon Silver commented:
    Are you a christian Mike? Do you think Jesus would support killing Bin Laden?
    Eye for an eye makes the world blind.”

    Jesus would have been stoked that Osama got rubbed out, he would say something like, “take that beatch, you mess with a Judeo-Christian nation like the USA and some hard core Judeo-Christian warriors will mess you up and throw your dead, hairy ass in the sea”.

    He would be proud that his nation America liberated the oppressed and down trodden in Iraq and Afghanistan

  • Mike

    “#324 September 13, 2011 at 2:57 pm
    atticcellar commented:
    Iraq is not a democracy. ”

    You may have missed its three democratic elections and the birth of a liberal democracy in place of saddams police state. Try checking into the news a few times a year!

  • Mike

    ” #327 September 13, 2011 at 3:00 pm
    David commented:
    Mike worked for Arbusto Energy.

    You Paulbots are so funny with your command of obscure conspiracy theory facts, get the tinfoil hats on y’all.

  • Evil Otto

    Little-known fact: Ron Paul’s touch cures cancer and has been known to raise the dead.

  • Houston

    #316 September 13, 2011 at 2:42 pm
    Houston commented:

    Seriously, can you not THINK? Paul is absolutely right. We occupied the Muslim holy land, and they didn’t like that. Do you think it’s just a coincidence that all 19 of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia?”

    #319 September 13, 2011 at 2:46 pm
    Mike commented:
    Ouch, you just shot a hole in your own foot. We didnt occupy the Muslim holy land of Saudi Arabia, ha, you are funny.

    Jeez, more lies and fox news regurgitation.
    I’ll post the link again, just in case you are color blind and didn’t see it the first time.
    Al Qaeda’s 1998 Fatwa, where OBL condemns the US for actions in the Middle East:
    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international/fatwa_1998.html

  • atticcellar

    Sorry, The Banksters choose the “candidate’s” in Iraq and Afghanistan. The lies shown on MSM television are just that, lies. All of the alphabet soup networks are own by the globalist Rothschild banksters. They all parrot the exact same lines. You simply need so look at the advertisers/supporters of these networks to see who owns them. The only place to get the real news in America is the Internet. Now the government wants to crack down on that. Give me liberty or give me death.. Ron Paul 2012

  • Mike

    @ Houston #338

    Man, that link is too funny. OBL is pissed that the US liberated Kuwait from Saddam. See, they do hate us for our freedom and the fact that we spread freedom around the globe. You proved my point Paulnut.

  • Mike

    “@ #328 September 13, 2011 at 3:03 pm
    David commented:
    What kills more? Terrorism? Electracution? Hot weather? Cold weather? Dogs? Police? Drowning? Prescription pills? Falling down stairs? Alcohol? Cigarettes? Drunk drivers? or Guns? I dont know but terrorism was dead last. Good try Mike!”

    What kills more, the liberation of Iraq and Afghanistan or Electracution? Hot weather? Cold weather? Dogs? Police? Drowning? Prescription pills? Falling down stairs? Alcohol? Cigarettes? Drunk drivers? or Guns? I dont know but the American wars of liberation are dead last. Good try David!”

  • Evil Otto

    Little known Ron Paul fact: his name is a killing word.

  • David

    “Try checking into the news a few times a year!” – Mike

    Spoken like a true sheep. “The News” lol

  • David

    FOX just reported 22 dead in Iraq today. Good job Bush. Mike is cheering!

  • Houston

    @Mike #336

    HA! You didn’t even read it; then you ignore my points and change the subject!
    I’ll sum that article up for you, since you are obviously incapable of critically thinking about you’ve read. (assuming, of course, that you actually can read and are not using a speech program in your feeble attempt to rebut Paul and his supporters.)

    That PBS article is referring to an Al-Qaeda publication signed by bin Laden, initiating a jihad against the United States and her allies. Long story short, they are pissed because of our military presence in Saudi Arabia, our support for Israel, and sanctions against Iraq.

    And besides, who the hell are we think we are? You cannot spread freedom at gunpoint. It has to manifest on its own.

  • Vahan H

    As long as we are in another country there will always be blowback just like Dr. Paul states and we will always be in a perpetual war. Any reasonable person who follows the thought that we are being attacked because we are free and prosperous is either IGNORANT or has a different motive.

    It truly amazes me that there are a whole lot of people who actually follow this B.S. line of being attacked because of prosperity and freedom.

    Be smart and THINK!

  • Mark Ortega

    When people can’t debate you on facts, they will resort to name calling. Thank you all for showing an immense lack of critical thinking. Hate and fear have taken us this far, with your help we just might get that soviet style collapse you all seem to want so badly.

  • David

    Heres some guns and nerve gas. Spread freedom. LOL

  • JD

    Mike said “No wonder Americans hate Ron Paul (that goes double for the members of the military.)”
    Hey genius, Ron Paul receives donations from more members of the military than any other candidate, including Obama, combined. That’s a fact you can look up.

    So muslims attacked us because of our freedoms and liberties? Well why did they wait over 200 years of our freedoms and liberties to attack us. What took them so long? Let me ask you a question. If some other country, that we didn’t like, came over here and set up bases, killed civilians, told us how we should live, etc… Wouldn’t you set up roadside bombs? Wouldn’t you attack the enemy? If given the chance, wouldn’t you fly an airplane into their financial and military complexes?

  • Evil Otto

    Well why did they wait over 200 years of our freedoms and liberties to attack us.

    Thomas Jefferson would like a word with you.

  • Evil Otto

    Little known Ron Paul fact: Ron Paul can prevent nuclear weapons from going off… with his mind.

  • burt

    The Dennis Kucinich of the Republican Party. Islam has been at war with the Philippines for over 400 years and they are NOT one of Israel’s main supporters in the world. Israel did not even exist 400 years ago. It is not just Christians that they hate. They have an ongoing war in Thailand also, and Thailand is NOT a Christian nation. If you want to know where his money comes from, it is from George Soros, surprise, surprise! The old Nazi himself.

  • David

    Muslims are a pack of animals; go figure why 90% of conflicts today involve at least one Muslim side. The only way to control a pack of animals is via a dictator which is why the Americans have had to support people like Mubarak – not the other way around as Ron Paul suggests

  • Craig

    The problem here is that regular postesr of this site, also reads Pamella Geller website Atlas Shrugs propaganda of hatred of Muslims…. all Muslims, the more they kill innocent citizens in those countries, the more they are happy. This woman is the type: Divide to conquer. She brainwashes Americans so they will approve eternal wars. She is a Neocon warmonger at it’s best.

  • Mike

    “@ David commented:
    FOX just reported 22 dead in Iraq today. Good job Bush. Mike is cheering!”

    FOX news is one of the best, least biased news organizations around. 22 killed by the same islamo-facists that Bush went to war to eliminate in the name of freedom. Thank god he did, truly one of the better presidents in American history. If it were not for Bush the Paulbots would be cheering the higher death tolls in Saddams Iraq!

  • Evil Otto

    Little known Ron Paul fact: Ron Paul is the real author of all of Shakespeare’s plays.

  • JD

    Mike is Neo-con. While not as bad as a liberal, who views the constitution as a barrier to their progressive (socialist) ways. A neo-con perverts the constitution to justify and continue his less than honorable actions.

    Little known Evil Otto fact: Evil Otto is a neo-con too

  • Mike

    “@ #341 September 13, 2011 at 3:42 pm
    Houston commented:

    That PBS article is referring to an Al-Qaeda publication signed by bin Laden, initiating a jihad against the United States and her allies. Long story short, they are pissed because of our military presence in Saudi Arabia, our support for Israel, and sanctions against Iraq.”

    Thanks I read it my self. You dont get tired of self inflicted gunshot wounds to your foot do you? LOL. Bin-laden himself admits he hates the US because it liberated Kuwait from Saddam and protected Muslims from Saddam by the no fly zone, like I said, we were attacked because we are champions of freedom.

    “And besides, who the hell are we think we are? You cannot spread freedom at gunpoint. It has to manifest on its own.”

    We succesfully spread freedom at gunpoint in Iraq, Germany, Japan and South Korea. Dont be a Paulian sheep.

  • Mike

    “#353 September 13, 2011 at 4:17 pm
    JD commented:
    Mike is Neo-con. While not as bad as a liberal, who views the constitution as a barrier to their progressive (socialist) ways. A neo-con perverts the constitution to justify and continue his less than honorable actions.”

    Ron Paul says help, help, neocons, save me. Thank god for the neo-cons who defended America post 9/11 and liberated Iraq and Afghaistan. Up next, Iran!

  • Mike

    Evil Otto, you are the man too funny. Little known fact: Its really Ron Paul who is the most interesting man in the world.

  • JD

    No mike. Bin Laden hated Saddam. And he didnt hate us because we liberated Kuwait. He hated us because we had military in Saudi Arbia..a Launching post for military action. Stop skewing the facts to fit your neo-con dogma.

  • JD

    Yep..up next Iran. Along with the economic collapse of this country. Neo-con chicken hawk. I bet you never served a day in the military. Im a vet and you ought to be ashamed of how quickly you would throw our service members into conflict over nothing but political gain and the continuous feeding of the military industrial complex. Join the marines and get a real perspective of how the world operates.

  • Craig

    “we were attacked because we are champions of freedom”. (Mike, #364)

    ROTFLMAO! Champiopns of freedom? Do you know any other country around the world who gets gropped at airports with hands in your pants? And the sheeple, say nothing but: Thank you Sire to keep us safe… we are so scared, we will be obedient little slaves. Thanks again!

    Not even the Nutsy when that far as to grope people and squeeze their genitals. Champions of freedom, you wrote? Sure… whatever!

  • Evil Otto

    Little known Evil Otto fact: Evil Otto is a neo-con too

    Aww, what’s the matter, am I making fun of the One True King? Am I not showing proper reverence for His Amazingness?

    Hmph. “Neo-con.” That’s just a generic insult for you, isn’t it? You use it the way a leftist uses “racist.” Really, to idiots like you it means “someone who dares disagree with me.”

    Personally, I love how twitchy you basket-cases get when someone doesn’t lockstep agree with you. The smart thing for you Paulbots to do would be to walk away from this thread… you’ve embarrassed yourselves far better than any opponent ever could. But you’re not smart, and so you’ll continue. More fun for me, I guess.

  • Evil Otto

    Little known Ron Paul fact: Ron Paul can score 17 on an 18-hole golf course.

  • JD

    Evil Otto wrote……”Hmph. “Neo-con.” That’s just a generic insult for you, isn’t it? You use it the way a leftist uses “racist.” Really, to idiots like you it means “someone who dares disagree with me.”

    Actually, Neoconservatism in the United States is a branch of American conservatism that is most known for its advocacy of using American economic and military power to topple American enemies.

    And now, since 9/11 we have seen the results of those actions. Its called blowback.

  • Don

    #304 September 13, 2011 at 1:42 pm
    philip inuhoff commented:
    Ron Paul was right! Here is scientific proof: http://bit.ly/pbCRdQ
    “You can’t handle the truth”

    Great link, Philip. I briefly did similar research at a Neo-conservative think-tank focused on helping the mainstream US media fight a media (propaganda) war with Hezbollah’s Al Manar station as well as Al-Jazeera. The think-tank (which will remain unnamed) had the full backing of then President George W. Bush as evidenced by a letter of gratitude signed in his name hanging on their wall. Al-Manar sometimes openly encouraged their viewers to wear suicide vests and attack Israelis and America. The think-tank had many researchers and experts studying the causes of suicide bombings in both Israel, Lebanon, and Palestine as part of their strategy to frame Al-Manar and others as responsible for inciting suicide terrorism.

    Ironically, the results of their well-published researchers demonstrated conclusively that when one country invades and occupies another, suicide bombings pop up everywhere, but as soon as the occupying force leaves, suicide bombings don’t just drop…they disappear entirely. This happened with Israel’s invasion of Lebanon many times. Al-Manar and other television networks were not the real culprits.

    IMHO, no one gives a rat’s ass about “freedom” “democracy” and “American Exceptionalism.” People do, however, give a damn when foreign soldiers are inside their country’s villages, towns and cities, doing what an occupying army does…directly committing violence or threatening to commit violence. Imagine a Chinese or Russian or Afghan professional soldier patrolling outside your local CVS with an AK-47, and multiply that across the entire country. Wearing a suicide vest doesn’t seem so implausible now, does it?

    Anyway, people’s political opinions are difficult, if not impossible to change. I recognize many people will not agree with this, but 9/11 and other terrorist attacks would most likely not have happened if America had not directly or indirectly occupied certain countries in the Middle East…my two cents. Yes, I do support Ron Paul and agree with what he said. No, I do not believe in the conspiracy theories that many other “Paulites” do, and I do not think they should be included within the framework of the political debate, because they divert attention away from the real issues, and there is no rock solid evidence that they are true anyway.

    P.S. The US definitely wages a media war on foreign television networks. I know this is true from direct work experience, and the mainstream media do not publish many important and revealing pieces of information…Reading between the lines is always necessary when watching the news. 🙂

  • Houston

    @ Mike #354

    What is this “success” you speak of in Iraq?

    And yeah, we sure did good job in Germany didn’t we? The Treaty of Paris after WW1 prohibited Germany from maintaining military forces. Everyone knew that Hitler was rebuilding the military, yet no one wanted to do a damn thing about it!

  • Craig

    “The smart thing for you Paulbots to do would be to walk away from this thread… you’ve embarrassed yourselves far better than any opponent ever could.”

    I beleive it is the other way around. You people never give a fact or a rational argument. Ron Paul’s supporters linked to numerous documents, videos and facts. I imagine that this is why you are so upset. If you have read these links, maybe you could start seing clearly.

    By the way, here is my description of a NEOCON:

    – First: It is a Republican who thinks he is conservative but is anything but.

    – Second: He is a warmonger, he is only satisfied when wars are declared and the more wars, the better.

    – Third: He doesn’t give a damn about the Constituion, neither does he give a damn about the truth.

    – Fourth: He only and always vote for Statu Quo big establishment candidates for the Presidency

    – Fifth: He o ly gets it’s news from MSM or alleged “conservative” blogsites.

    – Sixth: He likes to be conned, likes to be lied to and is a fan of Rush Limbaugh

    – Seventh: He is brainwashed to the point of no return.

    – I could go on, but I will stop here. I think you’ve got my point.

  • JD

    Imposing our will upon the world, and when we got attacked America was shocked and asking “what did we do to deserve this? It must because of our liberties and freedoms.” Oh the dumb masses.

  • Evil Otto

    Actually, Neoconservatism in the United States is a branch of American conservatism that is most known for its advocacy of using American economic and military power to topple American enemies.

    Uh huh. And yet you called me one, despite the fact that the only thing I’ve done here is insult Ron Paul and his lunatic followers. Why would that be? Like I said, you use it as a generic insult. It’s because you and your fellow kooks don’t have any tolerance for those who oppose Saint Paul. You just can’t take the fact that we all don’t think that he’s dreamy and wonderful.

    Like I’ve said, should Paul actually win, the Democrats are going to eat you alive. You just can’t take the slightest mockery, the slightest criticism. You have thinner skins than Obama supporters, and that’s an amazing thing.

    Oh, and just so we’re clear… I’m not offended or angry at your feeble insult. I’ve been called worse, far worse. If “neo-con” is the best insult your drug-addled mind can come up with, then I’m in no danger of seeing my blood-pressure spike.

  • Evil Otto

    #365 September 13, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    Sure thing, twitchy little truther. By the way, did you know that as soon as Ron Paul is elected, he will fight the space aliens who brought down the World Trade Center? Well, the space aliens… and their secret Jewish masters.

  • JD

    @Evil Otto….My bad. I called you a neo-con without really knowing, on my part, if you are one or not (kinda like you saying that I have drug addled mind. I dont use drugs.)

    With your disdain of Paul supporters aside, Please say why you like to Insult Ron Paul so maybe we can have a intelligent debate on issues rather than name calling back and forth.

  • Evil Otto

    Little known Ron Paul fact: Ron Paul is the only living master of the deadly White Ghost-style kung fu, a form taught only by the great Teacher on the Mountain.

  • Craig

    EVIL Otto, can’t you argue better than that? Gee you people have no arguments.

  • Craig

    Maybe this article will interest you, it is about you God Perry:

    RICK PERRY: the MAN BEHIND the MASK
    http://www.opednews.com/articles/RICK-PERRY-the-MAN-BEHIND-by-Robert-Quinn-110911-945.html

  • atticcellar

    Evil Otto has no arguments.. He can only name call and insult.. As an 50+ year old honorably discharged veteran I support Ron Paul’s agenda for peace, freedom, liberty and truth.. I wear the truther badge as a badge of honor.. My enemy.. The liars.. Ron Paul 2012

  • JD

    I called out Evil Otto to have an intelligent adult debate with me and all he can do is continue his child-like insults.

  • Evil Otto

    With your disdain of Paul supporters aside, Please say why you like to Insult Ron Paul so maybe we can have a intelligent debate on issues rather than name calling back and forth.

    I can’t put that disdain aside. You’ve earned it. All of Ron Paul’s supporters. When I call you kooks, @ssholes, and douchebags, I’m not kidding. Thus far, such behavior is the rule, not the exception. And it’s nothing new… you people behaved the same way in 2008. What did it accomplish? Did you win? Rather than modify failed behavior, you double down on the rage and crazy. The results will be the same in 2012. It’s as if you have lost sight of your own goals… do you want Ron Paul elected or not? If you do, ACT LIKE IT.

    Look at this thread. Look at it, JD. Look at the behavior of your fellow Ron Paul supporters. Does it make you proud? Does it convince people to join you? Are you happy to have truther f*cks like Craig on your side?

    Free hints: blanketing blog threads with Ron Paul supporters, each trying to top the others in sheer crazy does not win you elections. Declaring that you’re winning before your candidate has won a single state does not win you elections. Flooding online polls does not win you elections. Accusing those of us who aren’t isolationists of being “neo-cons” does not win you elections. Acting like Ron Paul isn’t a politician but instead is the frikkin’ second coming of Christ does not win you elections. Being so thin-skinned that you can’t see your candidate mocked without going off the rails does not win you elections.

    I’ve said this before: I agree with a lot of Ron Paul’s economic ideas. Were I president, I’d make him treasury secretary, give him a chainsaw, and tell him to have at ’em. But I find his naivete when it comes to foreign policy disturbing. And I find you followers to be mental patients. If you want my support this election, you’re going to have to dial back the crazy.

    Go back up to my #217 post. There’s actually some good advice there, but thus far not one of you has bothered to pay attention. Like I’ve said, you are Ron Paul’s worst enemies. If I didn’t know better, I’d think you were trying to get him to lose.

  • Evil Otto

    Aww, what’s the matter, thin-skins? Am I not taking you seriously? Get used to it. You’re so butt-hurt that I’m not debating you. I’m not going to. I’m going to continue mocking you until I get bored of it, because you’re nothing but a fringe of loud, crazy cultists who think that he who shouts the loudest wins the argument.

  • mcc

    Tarek Fatah, a Canadian and devout Muslim Marxist, says we’re “illiterate” about the “threat of worldwide jihad” and warns of our remaining silent about it: (7:00 mark) He then says the Muslim Brotherhood infiltration is all the way up to the American White House:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mge5Um4Lx4

    …”the end of civilization as we know it.”

  • Craig

    “If you want my support this election, you’re going to have to dial back the crazy. “EVIL (#375)

    Who do you think you are kidding here? You will never support Ron Paul, no matter what.
    Even if you could see the truth, you still wouldn ‘t vote for him. I mean, hey! Ron Paul supports the Constitution and you don’t. Ron Paul is a conservative and you’re not. Ron Paul has the wisdom and the experience, you don’t. Ron Paul wants America back and you don’t even know that America do not exist anymore. It has become the Corporation of the United States since 1913.

  • RON PAUL The only man we can trust

    Ron Paul 2012

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohKz9OeiI0g

    Corporate owned, lying politicians or a principled statesman? You decide.

  • atticcellar

    Evil Otto, What Paul economic ideas do you support. At the heart of his economic policies are the end of the NWO bankster ordered wars.. The end of the private and foreign owned Federal Reserve Bank, The end of corporate welfare and permanently closing the doors of the federal tax collection agency.. Ron Paul… 2012

  • Evil Otto

    Hey Craig, the Illuminati called. They’re having problems getting signals from the listening devices they’ve planted in your fillings. Too much interference from your tinfoil hat. Would you mind taking it off?

  • Craig

    Hey EVIL you’re still insulting, not arguing. Just thought Iwould point it out to you, in case you didn’t notice..

  • Evil Otto

    Evil Otto, What Paul economic ideas do you support.

    I support mocking people who write “I wear the truther badge as a badge of honor.” Oh, wait, that’s not an economic idea. That’s just insane paranoia. Sorry ’bout that. Still, I’d love it if Ron Paul put that in his platform. It might convince me to support him if he’d denounce nutjobs like you.

    (BTW, What part of “I’m not going to debate you” escapes you, kook? If there’s any group out there I have more contempt for than leftists, it’s 9/11 truthers. The fact that Paul seems to attract you cretins is disturbing.)

  • Evil Otto

    Hey EVIL you’re still insulting, not arguing.

    That’s the idea.

  • atticcellar

    Evil, Why are you bringing 911 into the equation.. You are getting desperate to discredit the truth..

  • JD

    @ Evil Otto………..
    I can accept your argument evil otto. Maybe I can explain the passion of Ron Paul supporters. We see Ron Paul as a decent, honest, trustworthy man who has the most consistent voting record of any politician running. We watch current events closely and realize that alot of the information we are told is alot of half truths, if not flat out lies. We know that Paul has been predicting this economic and foreign policy mess for the past 30 years. We know that that govt and media has ignored these predictions because they didn’t fit into the current mindset of the times. They labeled him “crazy” and “fringe” because they didn’t want his message to reach the masses.
    Now that the predicted mess is here, The media continues to slam Paul on his ideas, or continue to simply ignore him, and Paul supporters hate that. Now the other candidates are pulling quotes from the Ron Paul book only because they think it will help them get elected for they know that Paul’s predictions have come true.
    Paul supporters Are passionate about this man because he stands firm and that is very rare these days, and they admire him for it. Supporters feel they have a duty to wake up their fellow Americans to the lies they have been fed over the years. When people attack Paul, supporters don’t neccesarily feel offended that Ron Paul himself was attacked, but they are offended that the message of liberty is being attacked. Ron Paul is not a “God” to us. It is his message that he has fought to bring us, that most Paul supporters are so passionate about. Ron Paul is not a perfect messenger, but his message is and we will fight to preserve it.

  • Evil Otto

    Oh, I’m not bringing 9/11 into it… I’m bringing 9/11 truthers into it.

    Wait… you don’t know what I’m talking about, do you? Did you just call yourself a truther without knowing what it means?

    Ask Craig.

  • Craig

    @ RON PAUL The only man we can trust (#379)

    Wow! The video link that you posted is breathtaking. We have to make it go viral on the Net. That will bring Ron Paul a landslide vote for the GOP nomination. Please everyone, get busy and link this video everywhere.and I mean everywhere.

  • atticcellar

    I am for the truth whether it be 911, Federal Reserve Bank, NWO or any other of the insidious lies the main stream media is telling on behalf of their masters.. To me the truther badge applies to all of the above..

  • Craig

    If only there was more Americans like you Atticellar. Your country wouldn’t be in such a bad state. Truth is the only thing that counts here. And if people would only researched one bit, they would find it. It’s been hidden in plain view all that time. Just reading the white papers of the Globalists will open your eyes, they have all written the plan precisely. And their diabolical plan is working great. If people don’t wake up we have no future.

  • Brian

    You people are seriously freaking me out. Do you not know that we have been bombing these people, killing their leaders and stealing their resources for decades? Are you serious??? Ron is speak plain, pure, simple and clear truth… Man, if you folks ‘win’, our country is screwed!

  • Evil Otto

    I think you’re starting to get it, JD.

    #386 September 13, 2011 at 6:03 pm

    Did you think the media was going to be on your side? Politics is brutal. It is American blood sport. Trust me, the media really hasn’t noticed Ron Paul yet… if they do, multiply the incoming fire you’re receiving by ten thousand. If they ever think he’s a real threat, they’ll be merciless, and (this is very important) THEY’RE GOING TO USE YOU RON PAUL SUPPORTERS AS WEAPONS. They’re going to make sure to give airtime to people who think that 9/11 was an inside job, they’re going to focus on the antisemites, the nuts. Every kooky statement by a Ron Paul supporter will be a dagger stuck into Paul’s candidacy. In your “passion,” you are destroying any chance of Paul actually winning.

    If you Ron Paul supporters can’t deal with someone like me yanking your chains without getting angry, you’re going to have an aneurysm when they open fire on you. I’m tossing firecrackers… they use nukes.

    What’s going on right now amongst the Ron Paul supporters isn’t passion, it’s hysteria. Now, granted, I’ve been having a grand time poking the hornet’s nest, but look at the result. this is a losing strategy for you. A smarter strategy would be to purge the 9/11 truthers, antisemites, and other kooks from your ranks, stop claiming victory without real victories, and go out and earn votes by convincing people you’re right. There are no guarantees, but you have a better chance of Paul’s message getting across even if he didn’t win. Isn’t the message what’s important?

    Ron Paul is not a perfect messenger, but his message is and we will fight to preserve it.

    And that is a religious statement. Nothing is perfect… no candidate, NO MESSAGE. The second you start thinking that way is the second you start walking a dangerous path. Everything must be open to criticism, analysis, and mockery, and that goes triple for politicians and their ideas. Like it or not, that includes Ron Paul. When you say his message is perfect, you are saying that we can not disagree. Ron Paul is not the messenger of liberty, he’s a politician. He’s not the truth, he’s a politician. Politicians, even those you agree with, are never to be trusted.

    This country has a long and distinguished history of mocking politicians. This is how it should be… it’s one of the things that keep us free. Ron Paul doesn’t get a free pass.

  • Craig

    Brian, they won’t win, we have time to open the eyes of the sheeple before the GOP nomination.

  • JD

    @ Evil Otto…..you wrote “Acting like Ron Paul isn’t a politician but instead is the frikkin’ second coming of Christ does not win you elections.”

    I agree with you Evil Otto. There are alot of Paul supporters who get too wrapped up in the man when they should be wrapped up in his message. Quite frankly, Im embarrased by THOSE supporters.

    Though I do not condone those supporters who get wrapped up in the man, An argument can be made about elections being won because of religious personification….it worked for Obama as he was heralded as the “messiah”.

  • atticcellar

    Fact; Iowa straw poll results… Bachmann 4823 (28.55%).. Paul 4671 (27.65%).. This is less than 1% difference. This is despite the fact that Bachmann handed out free concert tickets to anybody who supported her (she bought her votes).. The next closest contender got less than half of what Paul got. Yet the MSM press pretended Paul did not exist. They only covered bachmann and the bottom tier contenders ignoring the elephant in the room..

  • Craig

    Let’s use some common sense logic here. You say that your country does good all over the world, you beleive that sincerely. Okay! So can you explain to me why all countries hate you so much?

  • JD

    Technically yes, Ron Paul is a politician. In reality, he’s more like a statesman. The only reason he got into politics was that he thought the country was going down the path our founding fathers warned us about. He doesn’t collect the posh congressional pension, for all he wants to do is represent and spread the message of liberty that was framed by our fore fathers.
    You are taking my term of “perfect” too literally. Your right nothing is perfect. But if you study the constitution, you will realize the sheer genius in its creation. Nothing had been written like it before its creation. Its outline is what made this country the best on the planet until it started to be messed with (Particularly with the Federal Reserve and the IRS, which I hope you know are private institutions and not controlled by the govt).

    BTW. Im glad I could get you to start debating. Its alot more stimulating than just spouting off insults isn’t it?

  • Craig

    The’ve all left. I guess we won the debate. They are speachless!

  • RedBeard

    Oh, come on now, you Paulians. Almost 400 posts. Don’t quit now.

  • JD

    400th

  • atticcellar

    Looks like your right.. The debate ,if you call unsubstantiated smears and name calling is over. Despite the name calling and smears not one iota of evidence against Ron Paul.. Ron Paul 2012

  • RedBeard

    Let’s go for 500.

  • mike

    @ #364 September 13, 2011 at 4:47 pm
    “Houston commented:
    @ Mike #354

    What is this “success” you speak of in Iraq?”

    Not much really, you know, just the defeat and humiliation of al-Qaida, the baathists and the iranian militias and the establishment of a democracy in the heart of the middle east. Just the trifling matter of a historic feat of arms and a model of nation building. Thats all.

    “And yeah, we sure did good job in Germany didn’t we? The Treaty of Paris after WW1 prohibited Germany from maintaining military forces. Everyone knew that Hitler was rebuilding the military, yet no one wanted to do a damn thing about it!”

    Ha you just described ron paul and Saddam in 2003. You guys really do suffer a lot of self inflicted wounds, even for a bunch of Paulian sheep.

  • atticcellar

    50,000 troops (advisers) on the ground.. 100,000 mercenaries (contractors) at over 100,000 dollars per year each.. Continuous death, both American and Iraqi.. 100,00 troops in Afghanistan, countless mercenaries (contractors). Good thing we killed the dictator Saddam via Mickey Mouse US sponsored trial. This despite the fact that the CIA placed him power. He threatened to trade oil in Euros or gold versus dollars (Rothschild’s banking cartels world reserve currency). This was not acceptable to the NWO bankers so they ordered their puppet Bush to attack.. Just a few of the other dictators the CIA placed in power; Marcos, The Shaw, Mubarak.. I’m sure the list goes on and on.. If you are a foreign nation I have a question.. Can the war machine bring freedom to you? Can we impose taxes on you in the name of freedom to be paid to the Rothschild banking cartel.. Then you will know you are free indeed!!

  • Craig

    An article just for you Mike:

    Women suffering from ‘worst violence in history of modern Iraq’
    June 8, 2011
    http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-06-women-worst-violence-history-modern.html

  • Jeremy Shatka

    Ron Paul is right. At least he has the guts not to lie to the American people like the RINO’s and Democrats.
    If a health advisor had a 100% accuracy rating and told a crowd of morbidly obese people they were making themselves unsafe with their diets, and the reason for their 1st heart attacks was their exercis policy, some would get mad and boo him, too.

    It’s time to get our foreign policy healthy and stop killing innocent people in other countries we have NO business in, America.

    P.S: I’m from a military family, and everyone I know with any military ties is 100% pro-Ron Paul foreign policy. The Marines concur. Semper Fi

  • RedBeard

    Drat. This thread has fallen off the front page, and may never make 500 posts now. But you Paulians can still talk amongst yourselves. We’ll check in from time to time to see how things are going.

  • mike

    ” #405 September 13, 2011 at 8:16 pm
    Craig commented:
    An article just for you Mike:

    Women suffering from ‘worst violence in history of modern Iraq’
    June 8, 2011″

    Sure, tell that to the Kurdish and Shiaa women who died chocking on mustard gas trying in vain to to shield their children. Hint, a hard core leftist feminist professor is probably not the best place to get news. Try fox for fair and balanced. Why is the death rate of women in Iraq less now than under Saddam.

    God Paulians are racist, no wonder all active duty military I know hate ron paul

  • BS61

    Being called a Neocon is a first for this former Dem – I’ve been to Alex Jones site and I just don’t agree with him and he offers no proof. If he has proof then he should put it on his home page, not have some interview with someone on the phone that only comes up on his webpage when I do a search.

    I totally agree with RP on financial aspects, but I do not agree with his foreign policy. He treats all countries as equals, while surely Iran is not like Canada and yet he would treat them the same. We have morals here in the US.

    I guess that’s why I don’t appreciate all 400+ posts, people are not allowed to disagree.

  • Damn and blast it Hymie we lost this shamozzle today cause we over done the language and name calling,Heads will roll Oh my Baal.Im going to contact Ahab to get you schills to change your tactics and lift your game.

  • When does the space ship come back to earth to rid us of this plight? And Drew don’t be posting numbers about contributions from the military that are from pre 2008. We all know he didn’t win a state, or a primary of any sort. And I can guarantee you this, we in the military know better this time around, take the stinking tin hat off our Paulbots, and follow the Wack job back onto the ship and leave earth to the rational and the thinking.

  • David

    “God Paulians are racist, no wonder all active duty military I know hate ron paul” – Mike

    Im 13th Intel Squad Beale AFB. We all love Ron Paul. You have to ACTUALLY serve to know this. What a complete chickenhawk. You are a pussy man.

  • BS61

    #410 September 14, 2011 at 1:39 am
    concerned citizen commented:
    Damn and blast it Hymie we lost this shamozzle today

    Very classy and how adult.

  • Ben

    We shouldn’t even waste our time on these Ron Paul haters. I do wanna say I will never forget the victoms of 9/11 and I will always wonder who was behind the demolition of the towers. Its a pure fact that the towers were demo’d. It takes months to plans demos of this magnatude. Planes did not bring down the trade center buildings.

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  • Mike

    ” #412 September 14, 2011 at 7:25 am
    David commented:
    “God Paulians are racist, no wonder all active duty military I know hate ron paul” – Mike

    Im 13th Intel Squad Beale AFB. We all love Ron Paul. You have to ACTUALLY serve to know this. What a complete chickenhawk. You are a pussy man.”

    Grow some balls David, and get your self a brain.

  • Mike

    All the Paulians seem to be getting out of dodge. See you later boys. Im glad that some of you seemed to be taking of the blinders WRT Ronny, its hard to realize an idol is actully an idiot but some of you guys are learning, hats off to you. We get people back to reality here at GP!

  • RP12

    education goes a long way. Learn what you are debating! Ron is right! http://www.larouchepub.com/lar/2002/webcasts/2919may_1_wbcst.html

  • David

    Thank you chickenhawk Mike. I find if more funny you spent 2 days trying to discredit Paul. And we are obsessed? LOL Poor guy.

  • Sean

    agree whole heartedly with Don and highly apprecate his input as someone who has worked hand-in -hand with the media

  • Justin

    Clinton, during his presidency in 1998, had launched a 4 day bombing campaign in Sudan, without Congressional approval. The bombing destroyed a hospital and other structures killing hundreds of thousands, if not millions of innocent civilians. However, none of that was brought up during the impeachment, which was only about Monica Lawinski. Ron Paul was the only one with the balls to bring it up during a press conference, just like he is the only one with the balls to go against the “popular ideology” and speak his mind and tell us the real reasons behind why other countries attack us. He’s not blaming americans for the attacks on 9/11, he’s blaming our failed foreign policy for interfering with other countries’ affairs, and frankly, I don’t blame them for attacking us. Let’s face it, if we had Russia or China invading our territory illegally, setting up military camps and trying to change our political structure, do you think we are just going to stand by and do what they say? Hell NO! We would attack their country just like afghanistan and iraq did to us.

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  • Sumo Vita

    Evil Otto – you’re a hoot. I couldn’t agree more with your characterization of 9/11 truthers, birthers, or conspiracy theorists. Or, that some Ron Paul enthusiasts act more infatuated than inspired.

    But I do have to ask: What IS your take on Paul’s rationale for the 9/11 attack? Or better yet: what’s YOUR rationale for why it occurred?

  • Michael Kelly

    I don’t understand why listening to our own CIA all of a sudden is unamerican. Our own intelligence acknowledges the motive for radical islamic extremism is our invasive foreign policy. So why is reforming foreign policy to a more affordable policy of free trade and mutual respect for sovereign nations a bad thing? When you address a problem, you find the root. The root is not Islam as a faith, its us not respecting their faith. As a Christian nation, we are supposed to pride ourselves on acceptance and treating others the way we expect to be treated. War is an outdated concept. In the current world of globalized trade, we no longer have to fight over resources, however now we fight over ideologies which is a much more dangerous game. Ron Paul was right on with this response. He’s the type of politician who isn’t going to tug at heartstrings just to manipulate the audience for a cheap vote. He tells the truth, his claims are supported by our own government, yet he’s called crazy when he relays the cold hard truth that people don’t want to hear. The nation that once prided itself on non-interventionism and commerce with all nations has devolved into a nation of blind followers of dead end causes.

  • outdoorsyRN

    Yes, I agree with some of the earlier posts that the reason why we were attacked on 9/11 was Dr. Paul’s theory of “blowback.” I think it is rather naiive to say that the 9/11 attacks were b/c they were gealous of the freedoms we have. Well as each day goes by our liberties are being taking away little by little and most Americans have no clue that it is happening. Supporters of the mainstream candidates i.e. Perry, Romney, Santorum…you guys have to wake up and smell the coffee. Where do you think the US is getting the money to fight all the wars….and yet these numbsculls that you want to support want to keep spending money to fight these wars. The way things are going financially in our country in addition to the political mess….we have not seen the worse yet financially. Perry is going to be another Bush…or Bush light. I love Dr Pauls courage to stand up and speak his truth “from his balls.” I mean Santorum would never do that…..he is a pussy. He is too status quo. Romney really made a buffoon of himself in 2008 campaign…So who is left…

  • Matthew C

    Hey retards, stop saying the US military hates Ron Paul. He has gotten the most donations from ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY MEN AND WOMAN THAN ANY OTHER!…YOu guy’s seriously need to wake up, seriously. Come on already, stop being so narrow minded open up and learn something.

  • Republicae

    Why does it not surprise me in the least to read both this article and the majority of comments supporting the author in his misconceptions. First, Dr. Paul is simply stating exactly the same thing that the 9-11 Commission reached, the outcome of several studies conducted not only by our Intelligence Community, but international Intel agencies as well. Dr. Paul does not blame American, but blames and rightfully so, the policies exerted by this government that have very definite consequences, most of which are well-documented by several studies and reports.

    Are so many people so naïve as to think that our actions do not have consequences, potentially dangerous consequences? It appears that is the case judging from the comments on this forum. Do we think there are no consequences to our government intentionally radicalizing Muslims in Afghanistan and Pakistan during the 1980s when the University of Nebraska was commissioned to product and publish extremely radical text books that were distributed to Islamic Madrassas?

    “The United States spent millions of dollars to supply Afghan schoolchildren with textbooks filled with violent images and militant Islamic teachings….The primers, which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, have served since then as the Afghan school system’s core curriculum. Even the Taliban used the American-produced books,..”, (Washington Post, 23 March 2002)

    Do we actually think that by arming the Mujahideen and promoting a holy Jihad in Afghanistan and Pakistan, and throughout the Middle East, would not have consequences for decades after the Soviets were driven out of Afghanistan? Did we think that when we actually loaned the Soviet Union the money to build a road into Afghanistan that they would not use it to invade Afghanistan? Come on people, wake up to the reality of this world, to the reality of this government!

    Do we think that by supporting, arming and providing training to Sheikh Omar Abdul-Rahman and his followers that there would not be later consequences that we could not possibly foresee, again dangerous consequences! Do you think that when our own military forces trained the various Islamic elements in the construction of IEDs that they would not then eventually use them against us since we had provided such provocative propaganda as those text books used to radicalize the very people we now must fear?

    Do we realize that the CIA provided arms and more than $3 Billion to various Afghan groups and that those groups held a venomous hatred toward American, yet the CIA supplied, supported and trained them. In fact, besides Saudi Arabia, the U.S. government has put more money and more arms into the hands of our potential enemies and enemies that it should be an eye-opener to anyone with half a brain!

    While it is obviously classified, there is substantial evidence that even Osama bin Laden was recruited by the CIA in 1979. At that time he was 22 years old and according to various sources he was trained in a CIA sponsored guerilla training camp, was later supplied, supported and funded by our own government….consequences? You betcha! Of course, most of the people that served in the Bush II Administration, were some of the very same people involved in the covert actions of the CIA during the Soviet Occupation of Afghanistan. Interesting isn’t it? Well, it should be of concern to each of us because little has changed, perhaps just a shift in which faction we are now supporting.

    “Under CIA and Pakistani protection, Pakistan military and Afghan resistance opened heroin labs on the Afghan and Pakistani border. According to The Washington Post of May 1990, among the leading heroin manufacturers were Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, an Afghan leader who received about half of the covert arms that the U.S. shipped to Pakistan. Although there were complaints about Hekmatyar’s brutality and drug trafficking within the ranks of the Afghan resistance of the day, the CIA maintained an uncritical alliance and supported him without reservation or restraint.” Special Report for Rep. John Conyers.

    The consequences we now face from terrorism is a direct result of a carefully devised intelligence operation by this government, are Americans to blame, no, not directly, but the complete independence of our Intelligence Community over the years has created a type of unknown that will always result in unforeseen consequences.

    Take, for instance, a recent development, reported in August, 2011, that it appears that our own government and CIA has not learned one thing from the experiences of the 80s and 90s, the CIA has been busy during the Libyan “revolution” recruiting, once again, Jihadists from Afghanistan and potentially Pakistan to go into Libya, again on a holy Jihad. Strange, but I find that just as disturbing as the fact that our government is effectively supporting the Libyan rebels with funding and weapons, as well as foreign radicalized Jihadists without knowing much about them.

    It appears that our government has been highly successful in its efforts at disinformation, so many seem to be unquestioning that it is disturbing, to say the least. It appears that there are those who are eager to denounce Dr. Paul for reiterating the very findings of our own government and Intel Community, but few seem to be willing to actually delve deep enough to understand exactly what he is saying and why it is so important for us all to understand!

    Oh, and the fact is that this country has been conducting military operations (including bombing and missile attacks in Iraq for the last 10 years) and have conducted, along with NATO, specific attacks against Iraq since the 1st Iraq War.

  • Republicae

    “Blaming the US for the 9-11 attacks is still an unpopular position–
    Rep. Ron Paul blamed the US for the 9-11 attacks again tonight. He also claimed the US has been “bombing Iraq” for 10 years.
    Sick.
    Good for Rick Santorum for confronting the representative… And, good for the crowd for booing him.”

    It is quite obvious that Mr. Jim Holf hasn’t read much on the subject, the well-documented subject of “blowback”, otherwise he would have restrained himself from spouting out such blatherings. It actually demonstrates just how ignorant some people really are about this world and the role that this government has played over the decades in the destabilization of international affairs, distorting relationships, creating problems unforeseen and now having to deal with the consequences of those ill-conceived covert operations.

    Do we think that an overt policy of global intervention, as it has been carried out for the last 122 years, has actually made this country safer, the evidence points otherwise! Is the world a safer place since we have intervened in the internal affairs of over 200 countries, toppled governments, intentionally created instability, intentionally armed, supplied, trained and funded many of the very groups that we now consider enemies?

    Besides all that, this country is technically bankrupt, soon that technical bankruptcy will become an effective bankruptcy…I have to wonder if many Americans really realize just what that will mean, especially those who hold to a very jingoistic view of the Might of the American Military.

    I despise the majority of actions this government takes under the guise of humanitarianism, national defense and the national interest, none of which actually mean those actions are really in our best interest! Most of the time, those things are used to disguise a system of patronage for interest other than our country’s best interest.

    One day, it is my hope that the people of this country will once again awaken to the difference between the real patriotic love of country and the often misplaced trust they invest in this government.

  • Republicae

    Mike commented:
    “Man, that link is too funny. OBL is pissed that the US liberated Kuwait from Saddam. See, they do hate us for our freedom and the fact that we spread freedom around the globe. You proved my point Paulnut.”

    @ Mike, post 336:

    Well Mike, you have exhibited a density that is astonishing, truly astonishing. OBL was not pissed that we liberated Kuwait from Saddam, but pissed that we installed, during the first Iraqi War, several U.S. Military bases in Saudi Arabia, considered sacred soil to all Muslims. It is not your idea of the so-called “spread of freedom” the radical Islamist are pissed about, but that we are using and defiling the soil they believe to be holy with our presence. Come on, read a book sometime, or at least some substantial reports on the subject before you spout out such dribble.

    Besides, how would you feel if say the Chinese decided to set up several bases in Florida, that they were strong enough to do it without much resistance from our government. What if we were so weakened economically and so beholden to the Chinese that they “asked” us to allow them to set up bases on American soil because they had an ongoing war somewhere in this hemisphere and it was in their national interest to do so and since we owed them so much debt we were obligated to comply with their wishes?

    What would be your reaction, would you simply set back and do nothing? If we are to take the deeper message of what you are saying then it appears that you would expect anyone to simply accept such an invasion, I mean you must follow the same logic when applying it to this country as you apply it to other countries we invade, or as in the case of Saudi Arabia, set up military bases to fight against their fellow Muslims, radical though they may be. To be certain, we do not have a very good understanding of the Muslim mindset, but it is not like ours, nor can it be, the ideology will not allow for it. Needless to say, or at least it should be needless, the vast majority of Muslims in Saudi Arabia do not want us there, there is strong evidence that we are not wanted in most of the Islamic countries, even Kuwait does not appreciate our presence. How jingoistic can our mentality be to think that all the world awaits us with open arms? Such hubris has been the downfall of many a nation and many more empires throughout history. I hope this country will eventually throw off such hubristic ideas and once again embrace the ideals of the Founders.

  • PonderIt

    There are people posting here who obviously have no interest in reasoned discourse. That’s fine- you have that right. For those who are, I would ask you to consider the central point Paul is trying to make. He is asking us to look at our foreign policy and history of military action from viewpoint of the Muslim/Arab people. Imagine you are little ten-year-old Achmed, born and raised in Bagdad. Your favorite uncle, Mahmoud, is killed in the fighting during Desert Storm. What do you think Achmed is going to do? Is he going to sit and ponder the multiple geopolitical forces that led to the situation that his country is currently in, or is he going to get angry at things he doesn’t understand very well and start hating America? I assure you, he, and probably 95% of the rest of the population, will choose the second path. Are they wrong in this? Probably so, but, ask yourself- how many Americans kept a clear and rational head in those despondent, rage-filled days immediately after 9/11? Alas, I was not one them. Ron Paul was. He cautioned against immediate rash actions that would not only not solve the problem, but potentially be very expensive and make the problem worse in the end.

    Undoubtedly, Ron Paul says things in a way that make him easily misunderstood. I can assure you, though, that he does not justify the terrorists in what they do. I also believe that he thinks we are not justified in some of the actions that we have taken, and I think he is right to question those actions.

    I am not really a Ron Paul supporter, yet. I have mostly been interested in Romney and Cain over the last few months. However, I recently started reading up on exactly what Ron Paul stands for, and his positions have given me a lot to think about. I would humbly suggest that he is worth a closer look.

  • anonymous

    Read “Letter to the American People” by Osama Bin Ladin. You will see that Santorum and twas very wrong, and as usual, Ron Paul was correct. Ron Paul looks at hard data and bases his decisions off of that. Santorum on the other hand, merely spouted out nonsense that would get the crowd on his side.