Sick… Idiot Ron Paul Again Blames US for 9-11 Attacks
Posted by Jim Hoft on Sunday, August 28, 2011, 9:47 PM
This makes me sick.
Ron Paul again blames the US for the 9-11 Al-Qaeda massacre.
The Des Moines Register reported, via Free Republic:
Two weeks away from the tenth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, presidential candidate and Texas Rep. Ron Paul says that U.S. intervention in the Middle East is a main motivation behind terrorist hostilities toward America, and that Islam is not a threat to the nation.
At a campaign stop on Saturday in Winterset, one man asked Paul how terrorist groups would react if the U.S. removed its military presence in Middle Eastern nations, a move the candidate advocates.
“Which enemy are you worried that will attack our national security?” Paul asked.
“If you’re looking for specifics, I’m talking about Islam. Radical Islam,” the man answered.
“I don’t see Islam as our enemy,” Paul said. “I see that motivation is occupation and those who hate us and would like to kill us, they are motivated by our invasion of their land, the support of their dictators that they hate.”
Regarding 9/11, Paul said that attacks against the U.S. from Middle Eastern groups at home and abroad can be traced to the foreign presence of U.S. troops, as well as America’s relationships with dictator regimes.
Let Freedom Ring has more on Paul’s outrageous claims.
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Henry D'Andrea commented:
Ron Paul is a moron. This is why he’ll never be president.
jainphx commented:
He’s just plain crazy! I’m just puzzled why anyone would vote or campaign for him. I guess it takes all kinds.
MrGoodWench commented:
“I don’t see Islam as our enemy,”
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So why do they want to kill us ?
Ladue Oundit commented:
“…they are motivated by our invasion of their land…”
The overwhelming majority of ‘Muslim lands’ are nations which were taken by the sword, and whose populations were forced into conversion, dhimmitude, or massacred. If Ron Paul cannot recognize our enemy, he shouldn’t be in Congress.
Kenny Solomon commented:
Obama’s official 2012 campaign slogan: “Vote for me because I’m even more bat-crap crazy and dangerous than Ron Paul.“
Joanne commented:
Most terrorist attacks occur in muslim countries – muslim on muslim violence, so how does brain-dead Ron Paul explain that.
Gwillie commented:
So at least he gave up on the Trutherism stuff
Scott commented:
I suggest the FEC look into this guys campaign finances…He did not win a single primary in the 2008 cycle. He won’t win any this time…The guy must have a trunk stuffed with millions in campaign donations…Why else would he run? To put forth his ridiculous ideas? We got it the last time…”They want kill us because we are over there.” Oh yeah, and the fiat money diatribe…Hey Ron, there is not enough gold in the world to back the dollars in circulation…There is no going back to the gold standard…
D. Walters commented:
What’s moronic about understanding human motivation?
“I see that motivation is occupation and those who hate us and would like to kill us, they are motivated by our invasion of their land, the support of their dictators that they hate.”
-R. Paul
Why is this so hard to understand? If foreign armies occupied, oh say St. Louis, I wouldn’t be alone in joining the “insurgents”. Why, wouldn’t you like to kill those occupiers? Sure you would. And the reason would be to rid America of foreign invaders. In Afghanistan, Iraq, and Somalia WE(-Americans) are the foreign invaders.
MrGoodWench commented:
Regarding 9/11, Paul said that attacks against the U.S. from Middle Eastern groups at home and abroad can be traced to the foreign presence of U.S. troops, as well as America’s relationships with dictator regimes.
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I get it Ron Paul. So here is what I propose, for OUR survival, because we love life and they love death.
Lets get ALL our troops out of every country , right now. RIGHT NOW.
In exchange for
EACH AND EVERY MUSLIM AND MUSLIM SYMPATHIZER/LOBBYIST , REGARDLESS OF THEIR RACE/IMMIGRATION STATUS/FINANCIAL STATUS
GETS THE HE11 OUT OF USA .
Each and every one of them, out of here.
Not one of them stays here . Not one of us stays there .
How about that ? Will there be peace ? Will they stop killing for islam ?
chillguy33 commented:
Islam is expansionist, and Islam is abhorent to capitalism.
Where Islam goes, nothing grows; is quite obvious.
Wake up. Islam is primitive barbarism.
Gail commented:
#10 Great Comments! Pretty much sums it up for me!
chillguy33 commented:
Let me comment further that Islam is invading Europe BECAUES EUROPE IS CLOSE, and EUROPE IS STUPID.
Ron Paul: do the French have hated military presence on sacred Islam lands?
Ron Paul is wrong, QED.
urallidiots commented:
I feel more stupid just from having read this article and the subsequent COINTELPRO crap being spout by these idiots in the comments. I wont even try and use logic, but if I ever meet one of you disinfo agents in person I’ll punch you in the nose.
Redwine commented:
Crazy Uncle Ron is completely deranged.
Waiting for his Krazy Kultists to pounce in 3, 2, 1…
retire05 commented:
Here is my suggestion: Dr. Paul knows full well where Congressman Allen West’s office is. I suggest Paul hike his butt on over to Col. West’s office. There he can be tied to a chair, and he can get a lesson on Islamic aggression from Charles Martel to the Gates of Vienna. And when Paul is fully cognizant of the history of Islamic aggression, only then does Col. West untie him, as long as Paul promises to shut his mouth and never open it again.
chillguy33 commented:
I would admire to see Islam invade Zimbabwe.
Perhaps there is no ready cash (to steal) there.
Craig commented:
Everybody knows that the real ennemy is the globalist scumbags that highjacked your country. Not the Muslims who lives in huts. The War on Terror is just as fake as the Global Warming or a 3$ bill. It’s to bring you to your knees so you will give away your freedoms and rights for security. It’s all a scam. The world knows that 9/11 was an inside job.
But nonetheless, Ron Paul is still dead right. When you invade a country illegally and especially with no autorisation from Congress, you make ennemies, not friends. Just look at the war on Lybia, NATO is working hand in hand with Al Qaeda… how do you like this one? And how would you feel if China invaded your country? Wouldn’t you want revenge?
I’m sorry, but to think that what Ron Paul said is silly, just shows me how much you people can be inconsistents. Either that or you like wars just like the blood thursty globalist eugenist scumbags do. Besides all that, where will you take all the money to continue these numerous wars? Will you ask the Federal Reserve to print some more money and continue the devaluation of your money? Get real here for heaven sakes!!
MrGoodWench commented:
Redwine commented:
Crazy Uncle Ron is completely deranged.
Waiting for his Krazy Kultists to pounce in 3, 2, 1…
were formed
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Maybe they will explain how many countries were occupied by the USA during the days of
“shores of Tripoli “…way waaaaay back …when the Marine Corpse
workingclass artist commented:
He’s done…
Tjexcite commented:
America’s relationships with dictator regimes.
I agree with this one. An eneny of my enemy is NOT my friend.
Enemy being the USSR in Afghanistan the enemy being UBL so he became a friend to fight USSR. The enemy being AQ and the enemy being Mubarak, al-Assad and Qaddafi with Saddam in 80′s so they became our friends. This had to lead to some role in the creation of AQ and 911 but not to the extent Paul puts to it.
Bruno commented:
What Paul says is partially true. The Saudi request and allowance for American troops to be base out of Saudi Arabia to expel Iraqi troops from Kuwait was one of the key motivators, if not the main reason, for the recently departed Osama Bin Laden to attack the US.
Fionnagh commented:
#9 and #18 – Read the Hamas manifesto which, by the way, was published as the “Sunday bulletin” in July of 2007 at Obama’s former Trinity Church in Chicago. An additional recommended reading assignment is the Qu’ran. Then get back to us here at Mr. Hoft’s blog and justify your previously-posted comments, not to mention those of Ron Paul. The Islamic fervor to murder “infidels” is quite a few centuries older than any “occupation” of Arab land. Mr. Paul is not a moron. He is, however, pathetically ignorant.
Craig commented:
All Islamic terrorists attacks in the western countries were financed and orchestrated by the West. It is very easy to find patsies. Don’t you find that odd that at each and every “terrorist attacks” events, that at the same time and at the same location, there was a government drill going on. Please people wake-up! You’ve all been fooled for so long. If you don’t wake up now, you have no future.
MrGoodWench commented:
Bruno commented:
What Paul says is partially true. The Saudi request and allowance for American troops to be base out of Saudi Arabia to expel Iraqi troops from Kuwait was one of the key motivators, if not the main reason, for the recently departed Osama Bin Laden to attack the US.
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So what does Ron Paul have to say about the Mumbai terror attacks ?
of 2011 ? and 2008 ?
AuntieMadder commented:
He’s ate up with it.
BJJuhl commented:
@ #9. D. Walters > Chamberlain thought the same thing about Hitler, whenever Hitler invaded one of his neighbors, supposedly to protect the German people living in those countries. Hmmm, that didn’t work out to well did it? Like Hitler, Radical Islamist are irrational barbarians who will only get worse if we attempt to “pacify” them and show them what they interpret as weakness. Then the real bloodbath will begin! The fact that Dr. Paul cannot recognize this basic lesson from history indicates he is unfit to be Commander in Chief.
I agree with Dr. Paul on a lot of issues, but I cannot support a man who is so weak on foreign affairs and National Defense. He needs to recognize that we truly have real enemies out in the world who want to kill us, and his Isolationist posture will not help, but hurt us even more in the end….
Craig commented:
@Fionnagh (#23)
I know about the Hamas Manifesto. I use to be just like you people 2 years ago. And then, I educated myself and found the truth. You have all being lied to. Wake-up! The ennemy is your own government that are all bought by the globalists (both parties). 9/11 was definately an inside job. Absolutely no doubt on that.
Ron Paul is the only incorruptible men you have. You have no other one.
@Scott (#8)
Ron Paul gets his donations from his supporters. Did you know that Ron Paul got more donations from the military people than all other GOP candidates combined? And he had more than Obama also.
Winston commented:
ron ru paul is a crazy crank communist who hates America. He is trying to be Dennic Kucinich
Winston commented:
#28
take your meds, a**hol@
lynched1 commented:
“I don’t see Islam as our enemy,” Paul said.
Can’t imagine why he’s never won the presidency. lol
Craig commented:
Ron Paul’s Donations from Military Double all GOP Candidates Combined, Exceed Acting Commander-in-Chief, Barack Obama’s
http://www.dailypaul.com/173452/ron-paul-s-military-donations-double-all-other-gop-candidates-combined-exceed-sitting-commander-in-chief-barack-obama
Do you think the military people know something you don’t know? Of course, they do.
Highlander commented:
I agree with Paul in part … our presence in the Middle East gives Radical Islamists an EXCUSE to hate and attack us. However, I seriously doubt that terrorism would come to an end, or Americans would be safe, if we weren’t there. If you objectively study the belief structures of radical Islam, it becomes pretty obvious that their philosophy and lifestyle is in complete opposition to ours. They’ve clearly stated their goals, and only a fool would think that turning our backs on them would put an end to the hostilities.
Craig commented:
Start reading the real facts, like declassified government’s documents… or globalist eugenist scumbags books. Read history…. history always repeats itself. All governments in every countries used false Flags to enslave the citizens. You will soon find out the truth. This is what I have done and I thank God for my awakening. Before, I was just a warmonger like all of you here.
Craig commented:
I understand all of you, I used to be like you. But one day you will find the “missing link” to understand all that is going on right now in this world. The “missing link” is the NWO that the globalists want to implant to enslave you. They divide to conquer. They create false ennemies. And you have no idea how far they can go to make it look real. They even brag on their books how they will do it. They are even ready with the Blue Beam Project, to put huge Hologramms of Aliens in the sky to scare the Sh…t out of you. If the War on Terror or the Global Warming scams don’t work, that is their next move.
TruthfulBlather commented:
I can’t vouch for the source, but if even half of it is true, then the history of US intervention in the Middle East would make most everyone there hate our guts.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6308.htm
While the radical Islamists hate America and Israel, and want to wipe us off the face of the earth, and that does make them our “enemies”, their ability to do is severely limited. Ron Paul is (I would bet) older than everyone else posting on this site, and has seen the history as a military and political insider for the last 40+ years.
I’d say, from his perspective he has seen the greater enemy that poses the biggest threat to America. It’s not a bunch of poor Arabs dressed in rags, living in mud huts and waving AK-47′s.
SM-AZ commented:
What’s puzzling is how anyone can support this fool. Guess the same question applies to Barry’s supporters.
Yeper commented:
Came over from a link on Rick Perry’s FB page – you ought to see what the Ronbot crazies are saying over there.
Dear Dr. Paul, don’t go away mad, just go away. Take your nutty pals with you
James commented:
At the time of 9/11, we were not in Iraq or Afghanistan.
Dien Cai Dau commented:
Yup…..the paulnuts have invaded again…….I hope he dies of natural causes SOON
Craig commented:
@ SM-AZ (#37)
“What’s puzzling is how anyone can support this fool.”
Are you calling you military people fools? Because they give more donations to Ron Paul than all GOP candidates combined… and more than Obama.
atticcellar commented:
The United states CIA under the direction of George H Bush placed the shaw of Iran in power in the 1950′s, The CIA placed Saddam in power in Iraq in the early 70′s, The CIA Placed Osama Bin Laden in power in Afganistan in the 1980′s “he was their operative”. Nearly all of the tyrants that have been and are in power in the middle east were put there by the CIA. Ron Paul is right. The US should follow the teaching of our founding fathers and not be involved in these forgien entanglements. The foriegn owned central banks (Fedral Reserve) owned by the Rothschild cartel are behind all the wars and terrorisim. They have engineered the current economic troubles with the criminal manipulation of the fiat currency and fractional reserve practices in order to put into place the New World Order. Ron Paul is the only congressman who has not been bought off by these criminals. Ron Paul 2012
Yeper commented:
the Ronbots are dreaming, they know it, Ron knows it, and the rest of the sane world knows it – that he has zilch chance of being President – He will not carry even one of the “57 States”
Winston commented:
#42
Did someone leave the keys to your cage un-attended again? Douchebag… George H.W Bush was CIA director in 1976. The SHAH (not the shaw) came to power in 1941.
Why are Paulbots deranged and retarded?
Winston commented:
#41
Yes… Any one giving money to this moron ex-neo nazi is a fool. Including the “military” service members who (we dont know that for sure) might have given this fool a penny.
Winston commented:
#40
I agree with your last statement. I hope he does….
Craig commented:
Rasmussen Reports:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/obama_39_paul_38
Tuesday, August 23, 2011
Texas Republican Congressman Ron Paul earns 38% of the vote to President Obama’s 39% in the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely U.S. Voters. Fourteen percent (14%) like some other candidate, and eight percent (8%) remain undecided.
Paul, whose long run afoul of the GOP establishment with his libertarian policy prescriptions, picks up 61% of the Republican vote, while 78% of Democrats fall in behind the president. Voters not affiliated with either of the major political parties prefer the longtime congressman by 10 points – 43% to 33%.
Seventy-six percent (76%) of Tea Party members support Paul.
jorgen commented:
Appeasers like the Dems led by Clinton caused 9/11. The Islamists clearly saw that the US had weak leaders who could be conquered by the sword. And Ron Paul wants to continue that unfortunate path!
jimg commented:
Craig = Troofer Nutjob
MrGoodWench commented:
jorgen commented:
Appeasers like the Dems led by Clinton caused 9/11. The Islamists clearly saw that the US had weak leaders who could be conquered by the sword.
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and money ….lots and lots of money to Clintons.
Craig commented:
@ Dien Cai Dau (#40)
“I hope he dies of natural causes SOON”
Never read such a pathetic comment in my whole life. Ron Paul puts his life in great danger confronting the Federal Reserve and the Statu Quo to save this country. Now I know why I left this site 2 years ago. Boy… stiil a neo-con site.
Craig commented:
Hey MrGoodWench, 9/11 waS AN INSIDE JOB. Wake-up!
atticcellar commented:
Prescott Bush, George H Bushes father was a Nazi (NWO) collaberator.. It is fact (the apple does not fall far from the tree)…. CIA placed shaw in power.. It is fact.. CIA gave Osama power.. It is fact.. I will not be told by MSM who can be elected. They are the enemy of US independance and freedom. They are running scared and will do anything in their power to keep this true patiot from getting elected. End the Fed… Ron Paul.. 2012. All others are paid shills of the criminal banksters..
MrGoodWench commented:
Craig commented:
Hey MrGoodWench, 9/11 waS AN INSIDE JOB. Wake-up!
++++++++
The Clintons ARE the insiders.
Just ask Sandy Burgler.
And Huma
Vero commented:
Craig, does that metal plate in your head still hurt?
Craig commented:
Vero, that is what is awaiting you… metal chips in your brain if the NWO succeeds. Think about that. You might think the movie and book 1984 was crazy, but you ain’t seen nothing yet. If Ron Paul doesn’t win this election, it’s over for you, for me and for the whole world. Please wake-up before the Orwellian dream comes true. It is well on it’s way, right now!
Estragon commented:
You don’t have to be stupid to support Ron Paul, but it . . . no, wait. You DO have to be stupid to support Ron Paul’s foreign policy. Had it been adopted by the United States after World War II, we would be living in Soviet America today.
Of course, many of his dull supporters actually believe his rhetoric about spending, too, because they don’t realize he has been among the leading House Republicans in procuring pork projects and earmarks – in the top three for at least a decade now. Paul puts his pork in at the committee level and then, once the final bill is done and typically passes by a wide margin, he votes “No” and makes anti-spending speeches.
He doesn’t need to worry about being called a hypocrite, since he knows his followers won’t check.
Never mind his various little ways of lining his own pockets, which some might find troubling, or his long welcoming of supremacists and neo-nazi supporters (he finally stopped taking their money, Ron doesn’t like The Spotlight on his activities [that's a pun only Ron's diehard white supporters will get]) which should be troubling to all.
Paul’s battier than Dracula’s castle.
jainphx commented:
The shah came to power in 1941, at the time GHWB was an army pilot. Strike one for Craig. 9-11 was an inside job? Are you nuts? 19 Arabs mostly from Saudi Arabia. Where do you get your info. I’m sorry but you are deluded, and painfully so.
jainphx commented:
Wait I think he was a Navy pilot now that I think of it, not sure, but he was a combat pilot.
Redwine commented:
I said in #15: “Waiting for his Krazy Kultists to pounce in 3, 2, 1…”
Then, right on time, we got Krazy Kultist Craig.
(Rolls eyes)
Island Girl commented:
LOL THe Shaw of Iran.
The Taming of the Shaw.
Shaw thing for shaw.
Bring back the Shaw.
Row that boat to shaw -hallelujah.
Much more multiskilled than that Shah thing.
Craig commented:
Jainphx, I never mentionned the Shaw… you are havinf halluc inations or what?
Estragon, your false hateful propaganda doesn’t stand a chance. Everything that Ron Paul ever did was scrutinized with a magnifying glass. This guy is impeccable and uncorruptible.
Sorry for you. Try again!
atticcellar commented:
The criminal banksters always play both sides of war. That way they always win. Lincoln refused their fiat with a 25pecent intrest rate attached and directed the treasury to print greenbacks free of intrest. This angered the banksters and led to the murder of Lincoln.. JFK directed the treasury to print intrest free silver certificates in an effort to break the iron grip of the Fed. This angered the banksters so he too was eliminated. Johnsons first act after taking the oath of office was to direct the treasury to remove the silver certificates from circulation proving his obediance to the banksters. All presidents since have taken their orders from the Rothschilds. Ron Paul is the only one who is not bought and paid for.. His voting record proves he is the real deal.. Ron Paul 2012
Militant Conservative commented:
Crack head Craig. Good Gawd.
Never heard such tripe cept from Ron Paul. Oh yea.
Met a truther once, crazier than a $hit house rat.
He was over sixty. Called him on it too.
As an adult I was the the only one carrying.
Pathetic excuse for an American.
Powder is dry
mikeymike143 commented:
ron paul is a low class moron who has no chance of winning the republican primary
RandomThoughts commented:
How a nutcase like Ron Paul manages to attract followers is amazing. Then again, this is the country that elected Obama president. Anything can and does happen in American politics.
Freddy commented:
Paul’s has asserted that the Shah of Iran was helped into power by the US in the 1950′s. Paul then says this led to the Iranian revolution of 1979.
So can Paul explain WHY, after ~30 years of non-intervention in Iran by the US government, are the Iranians the biggest problem to the region? Is it possible Paul can see various flaws in the US government that he thinks do not exist in OTHER governments? Did Paul miss the Iranian proxy in Lebanon called Hezbollah? Did Paul not get the memo regarding Hamas? Is Paul looking at the Iranian/Syrian connections with clear eyes?
Sometimes people spend so much time looking for faults in their own government they forget to look at what foreign governments are doing.
I wonder how a President Paul would deal with the Pirates from Samalia?
Craig commented:
I feel sorry for you “Militant Conservative “, sorry for you being so gullible. You have been warned! When you will realize that I was right all along, it will be much too late for you, your country and the whole world. This is the last chance you have to take America back in the next election by eliminating the Federal Reserve who are the globalist criminal cartel of international banksters working to implant the NWO. If you choose Perry or any other Gop candidates besides Ron Paul… it’s all over. The NWO will govern and nobody nor any other country will be able to remove them. I wouldn’t want to be in your shoes when you will realize that you could have done something, but didn’t. At least, I will have tried. It’s not a big consolation, but I will be able to live with myself knowing that I tried everything I could to wake-up people to this reality.
steven commented:
Funny, The people on here that has something negative to say about Ron Paul-do it like they’re 10 yrs old. They call him names. I’m thinking the people who do this are uneducated. Probably toothless, low income, inbreds. Please refrain from the name calling. Try, if you can, reveal some factual retort. Thanks, my beverly hillbilly friends…
steven commented:
Funny, The people on here that have something negative to say about Ron Paul-do it like they’re 10 yrs old. They call him names. I’m thinking the people who do this are uneducated. Probably toothless, low income, inbreds. Please refrain from the name calling. Try, if you can, reveal some factual retort. Thanks, my beverly hillbilly friends…
ohiochili commented:
Ok Craig…now tell us all why the earth is really the center of the universe, with all the planets and the sun revolving around us.
Steve, you are just too too charming for words.
Tell me…do you guys use two layers of tinfoil or just one layer of the really heavy duty stuff?
jerrylud commented:
funny Van Jones thinks the same way birds of a feather i guess
SM-AZ commented:
The ONE person I know who says he supports Ron Paul—-doesn’t pay much attention to politics. Just some headlines. So I’ve attempted to talk some sense into him—especially about 9-11 because I KNOW he doesn’t support Ron Paul’s actual policies.
Mike Martinez commented:
Ron Paul supporters, don’t get your feelings here. These guys are morons. Ron Paul WILL win the nomination, and all of these fools will be voting for him because they think he’s a republican as opposed to a democrat.
Ya heard it here first.
Quietwolf commented:
From what I’ve seen over the years re his supporters they range from isolationists and the old McGovern supporters who believe that if we just disband our armies the rest of the world will follow suit but of course we have to go first. A large part of his supporters are in fact Dem’s. Some whose intention is to support any division or in this case nut job in the Republican party. I’ve been noticing his possible replacement being groomed in the wings, Huntsman.
Militant Conservative commented:
#68
Oh no, the R’s and D’s are indeed colluding to
Bring about a one world gubmt. Won won is not your
Savior. When your opponent ignores Paul but is
Scared to death of Perry, Palin or Cain. They are
Telling you who they fear. Your a political neophyte
So I’ll cut you some slack……..this time.
Powder is dry
Evil Otto commented:
And once again, as soon as the Ron Paul supporters see any criticism of their lord and savior they start proving us right.
Hey Paul supporters: You. Are. All. Nuts. Thus far, every last one of you I’ve encountered has been batsh!t crazy. Conspiracy theories, paranoia, foreign-policy naivete, and a seething hate for any heretics who might doubt the holy power of the Faith.
Your candidate will never win the nomination. And even if a miracle occurred and Paul got the nomination, the Democrats would eat him alive. They will blanket the media with crazy statements from Paul, show his supporters to be delusional nutcases (and I can’t argue with them there), paint his supporters as racists (and far too many of you are). It would be the biggest blowout in American electoral history. And what are you going to do about it? You spend your time poisoning the wells of Republican support… and you’re going to need us if you expect Lord Paul to win the Presidency.
Personally, the more I hear from you fruitcakes the more I laugh at your delusions. Take your meds… the yellow pills make the voices go away.
Evil Otto commented:
#70 I’m thinking the people who do this are uneducated. Probably toothless, low income, inbreds. Please refrain from the name calling.
I think that just broke my irony meter.
Quietwolf commented:
MC>You don’t need to “cut me some slack” I’ve been observing politics for 50yrs my grandfather was an Alderman in Chicago who made the mistake of running against Daddy Daily, before he became mayor for life. I use watertight bullets so my powder is ALWAYS dry.
Tom63010 commented:
I don”t believe that everything Ron Paul says is totally without merit. With that being said how can anyone claim that the Islamic Religion is not a threat to anyone who is not a Muslim? There duty is to convert all to Islam and those who do not convert are to be killed. The method of choose is terrorism. That is going after innocent non-military targets. There weapon of choice is the suicide bomb. Well now that I think about it that logic is about as good as Ron Paul’s.
Tom63010 commented:
Ron Paul stated that this is his last campaign Another reason to look forward to the 2012 election.
RL commented:
Surely GW’s “inside job” when Isabella and Ferdinand completed the so-called “reconquista” with Granada in 1492. But, who, really, had been the “aggressor?”
Surely an “inside job”and GW’s fault that Dan Juan of Austria had to kick their posterior at Lepanto, 1571. Who had been the “aggressor?”
Surely an “inside job” with that nasty GW pupput, Tom Jeffersn with the Barbary jerks in the early 1800′s. Old imperialist Tom and his nasty constitution.
Yessiree, all those “unfriendly peace lovers” over the centuries incited by the evil GWB spirit sweeping over those innocent, neighbor-loving herders and their oh-so-holy sands.
RL commented:
Sorry, typing at 3.20 am – @#84, should be “puppet” and “Jefferson”…
Militant Conservative commented:
#81 I was talking to #68 or are you both the same.
It would explain alot. Geez, 50 years of experiance
And an alderman and your still not up to speed?!
Well it is Chicago mob mentality. Not “normal”
America. IF your in Illinois ya can’t have CHL. IF
In Chicago city limits ya can’t own a handgun.
Wow, there’s a good reason to stay outta Illinois.
Poor old fart.
maak commented:
Hmmm. You guys are doing to Ron Paul what the MSM does to Sarah Palin. How many of you guys have read his books or know more than selected sound bites on TV?
Evil Otto commented:
I have, maak, and I agree with him on many fiscal issues.
But you know who is making Paul look bad? RON PAUL. This sort of thing isn’t taken out of context… he has a long history of foreign policy naivete that makes him look completely out of touch.
Oh, and don’t lecture us on what we are doing to Paul. His crazy supporters do more harm to him than anything we opponents write. Look in this very thread… we have a frikkin’ 9/11 truther, Craig, arguing for Ron Paul. Does that make you proud? And not one of you other Paul supporters call him on his bullsh!t. When I read the crazed ramblings of his supporters I see a motley collection of conspiracy theory paranoids, open racists, antisemites, hate-filled lunatics, and true believers.
This is not how a candidate wins an election. Paul’s supporters are Ron Paul’s worst enemies.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
RL #84
EXCELLENT comment.
Apparantly the United States has a time machine, and, at some point, used it to go back in time and WRITE THE KORAN.
Must be the case.
#87
We’re not demonizing and lying… we’re criticizing his policies and positions and beliefs, all of which have been fully elaborated on by Paul himself…and further by his certifiably insane followers, who never met a poll they didn’t GAME, and whose results they didn’t later claim to BELIEVE — after having gamed it themselves.
Also: “It’s All Good™” doesn’t work here. It’s not actually All Good. And we’re not going to pretend that it is by refusing to study and engage, all in the interest of “Being Nice To The Poor Man.”
I don’t see anyone here stating “Ron Paul Is a C.nt!” Nobody here is claiming that Ron Paul’s kids are not really his.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
Otto, I wonder how many Paul supporters believe in:
Chemtrails.
Chupacabra.
Faked Moon-Landing.
Illuminati.
Government Mind-Control Rays.
Trooferism.
—-
I bet the results of a poll would be quite, ah, confirming.
Ron Paul = what happens when all the “Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell (or George Norry)” listeners all decide to support a candidate at the same time.
Bert commented:
Hoft continues to be wrong on Ron Paul. Too bad.
Han Solo commented:
For some reason you just can’t come to grips with the fact that the CIA is correct in saying the SAME thing that Ron Paul is pointing out.
Why do you hate our CIA so much?
mimi commented:
@ Craig. In 1995, our Philippine National Police raided a small hotel in Manila in response to an intelligence report that the late Pope John Paul II would be assassinated. In the course thereof, they were able to discover and subsequently confiscated many materials used for bombings and some reading materials, one of which was a pamphlet or book ( i don’t exactly recall) wherein drawings of buildings with planes hitting them. Our Philippine police officials learned that there were plans of hijacking planes for them to use to hit tall buildings. This was then termed by these muslim terrorists as Operation Boljinka. Have you heard of that? Anyway, these police officials of ours sent a confidential report to then President Bill Clinton. Apparently, your president did not take us seriously. Philippine officials were disgusted with Clinton for just shrugging his shoulders off. There were even innuendos that Clinton just laughed us off because we were just brown-skinned Filipinos. How dare us and we are just bunch of 3rd world citizens. Six years later, 911 happened. Remember Ramsey Yousef, et al.
By the way, I live here in Davao City, Philippines. Our island is Mindanao. Not American. I am Filipina.
BurmaShave commented:
At least Ron Paul did not implicate Dick Cheney. That is a small consolation.
Evil Otto commented:
Every time I read something a Paulbot writes, I think of this:
http://www.break.com/usercontent/2010/11/30/saucer-people-1961302
Craig Bodeker commented:
Real class, calling Dr. Paul an idiot in your headline. Maybe you should take an hour to read our Constitution…?
I like a lot of your articles, but you really should reconsider your UNWAVERING support for Israel, and the problems that nation CREATES in the region, instead of calling critics of our absurd, ‘pro-Israel-at-any-cost’ policies childish names..?
Andreas K. commented:
So when the mohammedans invaded Spain and Portugal (leading to a Reconquista that lasted 800 years until the last mohammedans were driven out again), they did that because they foresaw the American occupation of Iraq?
When they invaded Christian Syria and Palestine, they did it because they could foretell the American aid to certain dictators?
When they assaulted Europe over and over again, butchering and elsnaving infidels in the tens of thousands they did that because they knew one day America will be evil towards the mohammedans?
Yeah, makes perfect sense to me.
Seriously, it would, if I had significant braindamage.
Andreas K. commented:
Craig Bodeker, where in the Constitution does it say that we can’t call an idiot “idiot”?
As for Israel creating problems. Hey, you infidel pig, ever read the koran? “Kill the infidels where you find them” is written in the koran. it’s an order every mohammedan must follow. You’re looking for the root of the problem? Try islam. Islam has been at war with civilisation for 1,400 years. Islam led to the first genocides in the history of mankind, and was involved in the third (and is still involved in some.) The first was the mohammedan invasion of India, leading to up to 80 million dead Hindus. The second was the Otoman massacre on the Armenians. By the way, the Otomans tried the same with the Jews who lived there, but the Jews fought back. The third, that was Hitler’s little trip. The mohammedans were quick to help him, even formed an SS division that was infamous for its cruelty (which says a lot, considering the SS in general was hardly sweet and nice.) And today, shall I say Sudan? Somalia?
Wherever islam pops up it causes problems.
Maybe YOU should get some education first instead of spewing the typical islamo-nazi BS.
Evil Otto commented:
Yeah, way to prove the point, Craig.
Let’s see…
1) Implying that opponents haven’t read the Constitution, as if that has anything at all to do with whether or not Paul is an idiot. Was there some amendment we weren’t aware of that said “Ron Paul is not an idiot?” Or perhaps Ron Paul is the one true disciple of the Constitution, and to question him (sorry, I meant to capitalize that… we’re dealing with a religious figure here) Him is to question the Constitution.
2) And of, course, ranting about Israel. Wouldn’t be a Paulbot comment without a lecture about Israel, even though the article in question never mentions it.
By the way, cultist, the problem “that nation CREATES in the region” is that it exists, and the Muslims don’t want it to exist anymore. I get the impression that you and your fellow True Believers would also be perfectly happy if it ceased to exist. And, hey, if a few seventh-century religious fanatics want to murder millions of people because they exist , who are we to object, right?
Yeah, keep up this winning strategy. Ron Paul’s victory in 2012 is assured… even though you kooks will manage to piss off everyone who might vote for him aside from the tinfoil hat crowd. And, y’know, there thankfully aren’t that many of you.
Gary commented:
Craig, what’s your logic here?
Paul got the most military donations, Obama got the second most.
What is your point about the military then? That they know who the true conservative is? That they know what’s best for foreign policy? That doesn’t make sense.
Most of their money went to Ron Paul and Obama. I’d say there’s nothing to conclude there.
Or are you saying that Ron Paul is almost like Obama in the eyes of the military?
By the way, you can’t really say you were just like “we people” two years ago, because “we people” have never been just alike. Nice try.
Gary commented:
Craig #35
It sounds like you’re the “missing link”. Come back when you’ve evolved a bit more.
Evil Otto commented:
Oh, and Paulbots, if you don’t like us criticizing Ron Paul, all I can say is this:
GET OVER IT.
You cultists have the thinnest skins of any political supporters I have ever seen, and that includes Obama supporters. And I never thought I’d write those words. Any thread on any blog that is even remotely critical of Saint Paul draws you like flies, filling the comments section with your patented brand of crazy.
All presidential candidates are targets of mockery, insult, and disagreement, and your chosen candidate doesn’t get a free pass. You’d best toughen up, because if you can’t handle what we’re saying about Paul you’re going to be overwhelmed by what the Democrats say about him in the extremely unlikely event he wins the nomination. And if that time comes, ranting about Israel, bullsh!t 9/11 conspiracy theories, and whiny butthurt won’t save you.
Gary commented:
Craig #47
You’re kinda misrepresenting that poll. that’s a poll on Obama and Paul only. Those were the choices. The same poll is run for all the other candidates.
Here’s one this week where Romney beats obama:
http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2011/08/22/gallup-poll-romney-beats-obama/
and in this one, Paul loses to obama 45-47
Realist commented:
Ron Paul says that American occupation on the Arabian peninsula was to blame for the way the radical Muslims feel about us and why we got attacked on not on 9/11, but other attacks as well. He cites the 9/11 commission report as his basis for this and he is right. Read it for yourself here- http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report_Ch2.htm.
What I don’t agree with him on his that this is the only reason. It’s not. There are many good Muslims in the world that just want to live their lives peacefully, but to the radical Muslims they’re as bad as the infidels.
I would still vote for Ron Paul for President because he is the ONLY one out there that has a real understanding of the proper Constitutional role of the federal govt and he wants it replaced to that level and out of our lives.
ronpaul2012 commented:
I think you are all basically cowards towards the Muslim world….PUT YOUR BIG BOY/GIRL PANTIES ON…..Use your common sense…put yourself in their shoes…RP is right, He knows a hell of alot more then we do. We (AMERICA) has tried everything and everything has FAILED!!!! Im going with RP, He is the only honest MOFO out their. He isnt greedy, he is honest and you are all a bunch of morons. Eff The middle East….Eff these greedy bastards in our govt…THEY ALL NEED TO GO….Lets feed them to the wolves!!! OH, And makes sure most you stupid people follow along. Arent even smart enough to see the truth when it smacks you right in the face!! RON PAUL 2012
Gary commented:
Craig #47
on 76% of Tea Party supporting Ron Paul, you pulled that right of Ron Paul.com
the same page shows a gallup poll ranking Paul 3rd among the gop, and truthfully, he’s fourth after perry, romney, and bachmann (in no particular order). Anybody outside the top three is not considered a serious candidate.
Gary commented:
Craig #68
so you’re okay with Iran getting the nuke? Paul is.
He said so in the last debate.
How do you think that would affect the New World Order?
Gary commented:
RonPaul 2012.
Are you stupid? Ron Paul is the coward toward Muslims. He’s the one who wants to run and hide, bring our troops home and just pray that we never get attacked again.
We’re the ones in favor of taking the war to them.
How does that make us the cowards?
How can Craig (your altergo) call us warmongers and you call us cowards? Which is it?
Maybe if Ron Paul supporters weren’t so confused, we’d take him seriously as a candidate. But probably not.
Andreas K. commented:
ronpaul2012
Can you form a coherent sentence or are you actually braindead?
Ripped commented:
If you’re going to call someone an idiot, it’s a good idea to check and make sure you’re not an idiot yourself first Mr. Hoft. You sure blew that one. When you misquote someone that makes you an idiot and a propagandist. Maybe you’re trying to get a job at FOX, this hit piece should get you an offer.
Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none.
~Thomas Jefferson
Evil Otto commented:
Hey Ripped,
Would that be the same Jefferson who sent warships to deal with Libya? Who, many years before he became president, favored war with the Barbary pirates (Muslims, by the way) rather than pay tribute? That Jefferson?
Now, again, I’m going to tell you again, since you thin-skinned cultists seem incapable of understanding the point: We Paul opponents have the right to insult your chosen candidate all we like. We’re going to rip him a new one any time we feel he says something stupid, and you’d best get over it now, because life’s not going to get any easier for you as the campaign season progresses. Welcome to politics… and if you want your fringe-candidate to gain any kind of mainstream acceptance, you need to man up and stop acting like whiny children who have just seen their favorite pop-idol insulted.
Evil Otto commented:
Now, again, I’m going to tell you again,
Damn, PIMF. Again.
ronpaul2012 commented:
Im fine with Iran getting a nuke, THEY ARENT OUR PROBLEM, What they gonna do?? Carry the nuke to America, NO airforce, No army…Get informed morons! You people should be banned from voting….seriously!!! Get some balls will yas!
Evil Otto commented:
What they gonna do?? Carry the nuke to America, NO airforce, No army
There are these things called ships. They float on water. You might have heard of them. Many thousands travel to American ports every day.
Oh, and by the way, acting like an illiterate, screeching mental patient doesn’t help anyone take your chosen candidate serious. You want to ban us from voting because we don’t support your chosen candidate, eh? How very fascist of you. And here I though you guys believed in freedom… oh, wait, I didn’t think that.
Evil Otto commented:
Conversation with a Ron Paul supporter:
http://www.youtube.com/user/johnwsmart#p/u/8/4EQSOwgWG1c
ronpaul2012 commented:
EvilOtto, You obviously only think YOU deserve freedom…I believe freedom is for the world. How about Iran tells you that you cant have a effin gun?? Who the eff are they….BTW, who the eff are you?? Stop being a hypocrit…whats good for you is good for anyone! They are people..If they eff with us, we will deal with the accordingly….We have ships too…we will blow the mfers outta the water. This is why I mention common sense…..grow some balls, Time to try a new approach!!
ronpaul2012 commented:
Well anyway, Its expected that people never agree with the same canidates…what we all do agree is that OBAMA needs to go. Im voting for whoever wins the GOP Nom….Obama is toast!
Ripped commented:
Hey evil otto
You obviously don’t know the difference between entangling alliances and an act of aggression against America.
You and Hoft can talk all the 5th grade playground nonsense you like about Ron Paul, it just makes you look like an idiot. You better get used to the fact that the majority of conservative Americans are waking up to Ron Pauls message of limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies based on commodity-backed currency.
Those of us who understand the reality deal in facts, unlike you childish Neo-Cons who are only capable of hurling insults.
producerist commented:
Islam hates us because of our freedom, not our foreign policy.
Evil Otto commented:
Oh, man, I am loving this. ronpaul2012, you are managing to exceed every belief I had about Ron Paul supporters. Of course, it’s just as likely you’re a troll pretending to be a Ron Paul supporter, but I’ll take my fun wherever I can get it. It’s hard to tell the difference between a parody and the real deal.
EvilOtto, You obviously only think YOU deserve freedom…
Oh, obviously. Since it’s obvious, how about you quote where I’ve said that? I’ll wait.
Now, you have said you want to deny me the vote, based on the fact that I don’t support Ron Paul. Defend your position, if you can. And you can’t, so instead you’re trying to distract.
I believe freedom is for the world. How about Iran tells you that you cant have a effin gun??
So, that’s your best shot? Nukes are not guns. I am not a country. I have not threatened to KILL anyone with my guns. They have threatened to use nukes. Hey, what’s the worst that can happen if a bunch of medieval religious fanatics leading a country that believes in suicide bombing get ahold of weapons that can reduce whole cities to ash? They’re rational, reasonable individuals who would NEVER do anything crazy, despite saying that’s exactly what they’d do… right, kook?
Who the eff are they….BTW, who the eff are you??
I’m someone who isn’t crazy, which is different from both the leadership of Iran and you.
Stop being a hypocrit…whats good for you is good for anyone!
Um, your normal crazy stream-of-consciousness ranting is hard enough to follow, but honestly, what the hell are you talking about?
They are people..If they eff with us, we will deal with the accordingly….
Really? A nuke goes off in an American port… how would President Paul react? Who would he target? How would he respond? Tell me, stoner.
We have ships too…we will blow the mfers outta the water.
(sigh) You really don’t understand TERRORISM, do you? They’re not going to tell anyone they’re sending a nuke ship over in a ship, kook. Do you have any clue how many shipping containers come into this country every single day? What are you planning to do, blow every ship out of the water that approaches American shores?
This is why I mention common sense…..grow some balls,
Now, there’s a mature campaign strategy. Maybe you idiots can use that as your campaign slogan! “Ron Paul 2012: Grow some balls!” That’ll convince people your candidate is the correct one.
Time to try a new approach!!
Suicide may be a new approach, but it isn’t a good approach.
Now, mental patient, let me give you some advice:
1) You write like a stupid person. Learn how to spell, use proper grammar, and learn how to structure an argument.
2) “Grow some balls” isn’t an argument.
3) Behaving like a lunatic isn’t going to help your chosen candidate win the election.
4) Stop doing drugs. They’re obviously affecting what little is left of your mind.
pipewerkz commented:
I find all the comments on here so amazing. “Why do they hate us then!??!!!!!?111″ Read a freaking book! “Blowback” by. Chalmers Johnson. “Dying to win”, “Cutting the fuse” by Robert Pape. They don’t hate us because we are have “freedom” in the US. (which we are rapidly losing) They hate us because we have been bombing and meddling the in affairs of the middle east since the 1950′s. Killing innocent women and children, popping up dictators with our money that their people hate and then, like the media puppets half of you are, cheer for the overthrow of Gaddafi while you blindly supported him before. The same goes for Saddam, Mubarak and coming soon to other nations if you fools don’t wake up.
Ron Paul does not blame anything except the FOREIGN POLICY for 9/11. Ok, its wasn’t you that caused the attacks you dolts, it was the policy. I’m not sure how clearly this can be explained.
Imagine you had a neighbor. You would always set fire to their car, murder their dog, take craps on their lawn, throw molotov cocktails through the windows of their sleeping baby. Then one day he walks over and slashes the tire on your car. Would your reaction be to act like a fool and start screaming “WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT!?!?” “WHY DO YOU HATE ME!!!!???” or would you maybe think “hmm, maybe if I wasn’t doing all that stuff to my neighbor, they wouldn’t have attacked me.
Evil Otto commented:
You obviously don’t know the difference between entangling alliances and an act of aggression against America.
Act of aggression, eh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3qcKAZrNYA&feature=related
Like that? Oh, wait, THAT wasn’t an act of aggression, right?
You and Hoft can talk all the 5th grade playground nonsense you like about Ron Paul, it just makes you look like an idiot.
Aww, what’s the matter, am I insulting Saint Paul?
You better get used to the fact that the majority of conservative Americans are waking up to Ron Pauls message of limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies based on commodity-backed currency.
(snort) Yeah, he might get twice as much support as he did last time. What’s that… 4%?
Every time Paul runs we hear from you cultists how inevitable his ascension is, and nothing ever comes of it. Tell you what, sparky, get back to me when Ron Paul actually wins a state, just one state. ANY state. Until then, it’s just empty talk from a delusional nutcase who has invested way too much faith in a frikkin’ politician. You do understand that he’s a politician, right, and not the second coming of Jesus? Because that’s the way you lunatics act.
Those of us who understand the reality deal in facts, unlike you childish Neo-Cons who are only capable of hurling insults.
Heh, my guess is that you don’t see the irony in writing that. Let’s see, you’ve called us idiots, neo-cons, childish. Did I miss anything?
I’m going to repeat myself, because you Paulbots aren’t capable of understanding: GROW. THICKER. SKINS. Your candidate is going to be insulted, mocked, and raked over the coals. That’s part of running for president. Deal with it, because if you fruitcakes think we’re bad you haven’t seen anything yet. Oh, and pissing off the very people you’re going to need to win isn’t a good campaign strategy.
ronpaul2012 commented:
Nah Otto…You forgot about you being a big fat wussie…now go hide under your bed and piss yourself like a good little neo!
ronpaul2012 commented:
OTTO SAYS
Oh, and pissing off the very people you’re going to need to win isn’t a good campaign strategy.
Told you all this OTTO guy is a LIBRAL…I can smell him from here…….Now If his guy doesnt win..HE WILL VOTE FOR OBAMA…WHAT A WUSSY!!!!
ronpaul2012 commented:
Pipeworkz, That would make too much sense for OTTO….He probably one of those big bankers or greedy effers that want to control the sheeple….to bad those days are over!
Evil Otto commented:
Good God, pipewerkz, have you ever read anything about the history of Islam? You’re pretending like Muslims have been living, unaggressively at peace until the evil United States started oppressing them.
Why do they hate us? Simple. They hate because they need someone to hate. Anyone. Hate focuses the attention outward, away from one’s own problems. It gives a focus for blame at the miserable state of their lives… the other is to blame: the unbeliever. The United States. Israel. Anyone. It doesn’t matter who. Their corrupt and incompetent leaders feed on this. Our meddling in their affairs is an excuse for their atrocities, not the actual reason behind them. It’s like the whiny criminal who, after being caught, blames society. And here you are, mindlessly accepting what they say, because it fits your isolationist worldview.
And you? You hate us. Rather than try and find common ground with people who support a lot of Paul’s financial ideas but disagree strongly with his foreign policy ideas, you Paul supporters rant like crazy people at the first sign of opposition. I keep having to say this: this isn’t a winning strategy.
Evil Otto commented:
Lol, ronpaul2012… you’re losing it. It’s funny to watch.
Hey, the rest of you Paul supporters… are you proud to have a guy like that on your team?
ronpaul2012 commented:
Funny…I was just thinking the same about you Libtard! All you want is drama, drama, drama!
ronpaul2012 commented:
Well you vote for whoever you wanna vote for and we…Paul voters will vote for Ron Paul! Why is that so difficult for you Otto???? Is it that you have a need to CONTROL who people vote for?
Audrey commented:
I believe that the American people are smart enough to govern themselves. Who wants a dime from the Federal Government? I’m poor; pinched just like most of the people in this country. Do I accept a dime from the Government? Not to my knowledge. I abhor food stamps and medicaid. I am a Kentuckian. When the ice storm came through in 2009 did I get anything from FEMA? No. Perhaps my state accepted this, but I didn’t go get ‘relief’. I have a small child as well. We had no power for two weeks, and endured single digit temperatures. Guess what? Our family is fine and self sufficient. Takes a lot of grit to be an American. Go study the Revolutionary War if you don’t believe me. What gives us the right to meddle in the world’s business? I had this exact same thought after 9/11. God rest the souls of all the people that died. It makes me sick, and brings me to tears to think of all the good Americans that died. But what caused it? We think that we have to police the world. This is not sound foreign relations. If the shoe was on the other foot, how would you feel?
jimg commented:
I chuckle at the b!tch-slapping Evil Otto is administering to the Paulbots. Like it’s not deserved, or something.
Last cycle, my old man (in his early 70s) supported Ron Paul. I sent him a few links, got him a bit more educated about Paul’s positions … like his playing footsies with the Truthers, Alex Jones, his prior statements about 9/11. That sort of thing.
And then I sent him threads like this filled with Ron Paul, um, supporters.
He – like a lot of us on the conservative side – still support some of Paul’s ideas. But he wants nothing – nothing – to do with Paul’s supporters. And he’ll be looking elsewhere this primary season.
Why?
Because you make your candidate look worse. Much, much worse. You’re just as bad – if not worse – than hard-core Leftists who refuse to listen to what people are telling you. But you don’t get that. And you never will.
But carry on. Just because you tell a monkey to stop flinging his own feces doesn’t mean he will.
Audrey commented:
Who wants a dime? It is silly to borrow a dime from an entity that has no dime. Ron Paul may have a few off-kilter ideas, but his rhetoric tends to make a whole lot of sense. There IS a system built in, it is called Checks and Balances. Not everything the man preaches would come true. Perhaps the common sense that he is promoting would pass. I have been watching comments on the internet for years. The average citizen WOULD like us to butt out of world affairs and take care of OUR citizens. Do we have to be caretaker of the entire world?
Ripped commented:
Sorry jimg, evil otto has just made himself look almost as foolish as you. You seem to be an expert at flinging poo.
DR Smith commented:
As an ex-political scientist (1960′s) … ex Air Force pilot & Viet Nam veteran, liberal democrat who witnessed stolen presidential elections in 2000 and 2004 … and the totalitarian directions the neocons took the country since the obviously false flag 9/11 …
It was not easy to get me to register republican … but I did. Why?
To enable me to be able to finally support someone who I could enthusiastically vote FOR!
Ron Paul. Why would a lib/dem support this guy? Because the left – right political spectrum is really a circle. If you go far enough left you meet your friends on the right. Ron Paul is right … in either paradigm.
What the hell is wrong with following the Constitution? Everyone in Congress swears to do it and then nobody ever does … except Ron Paul! He’s about the only one that truly does. Legislators from either party who voted on before even reading “The Patriot Act”, which guts the Bill of Rights should be impeached for not following that oath … but no consequences exist.
The opposite occurs … Obama embraces it as well … why?
Unfortunately our formerly Democratic political system has deteriorated into an oligarchic one party system de facto. Two arms of the same Punch & Judy puppeteer. Money is all. An oligarchy of oil, Wall Street and big banking bucks backing both bastard parties. They own them both and both parties work for their benefit to extract as much wealth as they can from those classes below them.
Class warfare! They won! And continue to plunder. Why would they want change?
The military industrial complex that blows things up in very expensive manners … so that they can get the contract to rebuild them … does not care if the country goes bankrupt funding foreign wars where no threat to the USA exists. Unconstitutional, undeclared wars ever since Korea. But HEY .. there’s good money in it!
Ron Paul speaks the truth. We can’t afford it any more. We’re broke. Time to stop throwing fiat money away like it is worthless … ahh … it IS worthless! Ever since Nixon.
Ron Paul is NOT a gold standard fanatic, but he HAS come out with the idea that our currency should actually be worth something … what a concept! Could be cotton bales, could be oil, could be uranium or any other commodity having REAL value including gold bars or a “basket of commodities” … ahhh anybody remember why Fort Knox exists?
The “Fed” is the greatest ripoff of the wealth of the American people since the age of Andrew Jackson and his clashes with the bankers. Jackson beat them. Wilson lost. Kennedy tried and was killed. Bush II let them write their own deregulation legislation.
Obama punished not a single person for the unbelievable frauds that were perpetuated when they crashed the system with their greed, but you can’t jail your campaign contributors! Most especially before re-election time.
Special interest K Street lobbyists do not set up $10,000 per plate rubber chicken “dinners” for Ron Paul.
He takes NO MONEY from lobbyists. This ALONE separates him from ALL other candidates!
Check for yourself how his campaigns are funded. Hundreds of thousands of small donations from his supporters. More support from the military donations than all other candidates combined.
Could it be because he is the only candidate of either party that wants to end the unconstitutional wars started by lies?
As the ONLY anti war candidate … he stands a chance.
You will not agree with every stance he has, but you cannot question his character or his consistency. As probably the most savvy economic mind in Congress, who else you gonna call? When the economy is going to hell in a hurry.
You cannot trust the bought and paid for media. Neither FOX nor MSNBC. If you want the truth about the guy you must seek it out yourself as he represents such a challenge to the “powers that be” that they have already ignored him to the point of it being an issue.
Next they will demonize and distort.
Get the truth, judge for yourself.
Time to end the surveillance state of the Orwellian named “Patriot Act” as no other candidate has come out against it … except Ron Paul who voted against it in the first place!
Are you really against what he stands for? Liberty. Freedom. Sound money and an end to wars we can’t afford. The end of the theft of the private banking cartel known as the Fed?
Sure he may sound a little “old-timey” and preachy at times, but he is the modern day Cassandra. He speaks the truth, but nobody seems to listen.
ronpaul2012 commented:
Im starting to think that the ones slinging mud at Ron Paul are the ones who like to tie us down in debt! Plain and simple…..WHO WOULDNT IN THEIR RIGHT MINDS WANT FREEDOM AND LIBERTY OVER UNNEEDED WARS!
burt commented:
Ron Paul can out apologize Barrack Obama, but he won’t have any luck at it either. Mahmod Ahmadinejad won’t hesitate to kill you and your fellow Americans if he gets the chance. The same goes for the other tyrants of this world. I guess as long as Soros supplies the money, Paul can supply the fruitcake foreign policy. The American military is still needed in this world. The Constitution saw the need for a military, that is why it is there.
When it comes to economic responsibility, Paul is NO different than his colleagues. He uses what are called “earmarks”. He sticks all kinds of garbage in the budget knowing no one is going to remove them, and that budgets pass without anyone reading it. The federal spending in his district has quadrupled since 1999. His latest is to take all the FEMA money he can lay his hands on. Sorry folks, he is no different than the rest of the politicians you know.
Audrey commented:
Yeah. No amount of argument would convince me that US Foreign Policy isn’t tyrannical. Manifest Destiny, which I disagreed with upon learning about it, should not apply to the entire world. We cannot own the world. Do not deserve it, nor are we entitled to it. We should take care of this little patch of land that we have staked out. That is it.
ronpaul2012 commented:
kind of hard to believe Burt! He is the only one I see fit and Paul is noway funded by Soros….lmfao! He is the only one that ISNT bought and paid for…..wow, people think people are stupid…..I never touched the kool aide and neither should you!
Patty commented:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/08/obamas_jewish_outreach_director_and_his_anti-christian_hate_propaganda.html
pipewerkz commented:
Otto… Just because you don’t agree with what people say doesn’t mean you go to war with them. This is a very simple concept, one that a 3 year old can understand.
Your little shot at the end holds no weight, saying that “I” hate us and I don’t spend time on his excellent economic ideas and background. In case you didn’t notice, this article is about foreign policy, not economics. If you want to talk economics, I would be glad to school you any day.
It’s sad that you are mindlessly agreeing with their empire building strategy and “they hate us cause we are free.” You attack with no actual examples and just ask me if I’ve ever read anything about Islam. Did you see the books I listed? Robert Pape has plenty to say on the matter. What about Michael Scheuer? You know, the former head of the CIA Bin Laden Unit. Seems he agrees with Ron Paul and anyone that has actually taken the time to listen to anyone except Rush Limbaugh.
It’s a shame, and pathetic that you don’t understand the difference between non-intervention and isolationism. Or maybe you do, you are just a propagandist.
Craig commented:
Oh my God, Dr Smith (#134), you made my day. Thank you! After reading all the above comments, I was discourage for your country and for the whole world. Was sure that the USA and the world were doomed for sure. But now, after reading your comment, I regained my confidence, that we will see this trough, because there are people like you who sees reality like it is. Please spread your message everywhere. It is hard for me to do it, since I am French and do not express myself well in English and because I am a Canadian. Thanks again sincerely!
exceller commented:
Having Ron Paul as president would be a disaster. Yes he is on the right side of some economic issues, but that hardly makes up for how clueless and dangerous he is on so many other issues like Islam. He should be sitting in a rocker on the front porch sipping a lemonade and ranting about the fed to anyone who will listen. we need a leader not a cranky old man.
ronpaul2012 commented:
I guess Otto thinks America shouldnt be free…IDK where he is from…mars?
Craig commented:
@ Exceller (#42)
The globalist scumbags must be very proud of you, you’ve swallowed their terrorist propaganda who is as fake as the Global Warming and a 3$ bill. They are genius, but then again, it’s not hard with such gullible people who fall right into their scams… each time, over and over again…lol
How can people be so gullible to accept being gropped (hands in your pants) or put into frying radioactive body scanners because they are afraid of the “big bad terrorists”? They must be laughing their heads off watching you scared slaves accepting that kind of humiliation… for absolutely nothing.
Craig commented:
You have more chance to be killed by a bee than by a terrorist. Don’t throw out your liberty for security, because you will get neither. You are creating your own prison and enslavement by bying their POWERFUL propaganda.
Gary commented:
ROn Paul 2012 revealed himself to be a liberal in post # 123 when he called Otto a Neo.
Has any conservative ever used the term as a perjorative against another?
Nope.
Only libs use that term. You’re exposed.
Maybe that’s why you switched back to screen name Craig.
And in case I’m wrong about that, and there actually are two people out there this stupid,
we know Otto is no lib. We don’t know what you are, and it is primarily becuse most of what you say makes no sense and/or is contradictory.
In either case, Ron Paul won’t be the nominee, so you’d better start picking another candidate to get nutty about.
Craig commented:
Gary, there is nobody more conservative than I am. Still, I can make the difference between a real conservative and a neo-con. There are no conservatives on this site, only neo-cons.
If Paul is not the nominee, there will be no one to vote for, since all candidates in both parties are not conservatives, they are either RHINOS or Neo-cons, Globalists or Socialists. and they are all part of the Status Quo. If Paul doesn’t make it, you can kiss your country goodbye! You been warned!
Craig commented:
A true conservative wouldn’t start illegal wars. A true conservative wouldn’t want an Empire, wouldn’t police the world, wouldn’t kill your Constitution everytime they can (Patriot Act, etc). A true conservative would look into Ron Paul long time voting records and realize that he always voted against every unconstitutional laws and against raising taxes. A true conservative wouln’t look up to Perry who is only talk… his is anything but a conservative. He is a Neo con Globalist agent and he will sell your country for a few pieces of silver.
Andreas K. commented:
ronpaul2012
Yep, you are braindead. I don’t need an army or air force to bring a nuke into a country. Look at the southern border of the US. I can drive a tank in there without anyone noticing or doing something against it.
You’re a dhimmi. And you understand NOTHING about islam.
Also, what illegal war? Don’t bring international law into this, international law is a joke. Also, what empire? I don’t think some people here know what an empire is. Also, how many people raving against the patriot act have actually read it (none, usually)?
Ron Paul is a moron. If he really thinks that America cause 9-11 he should be moved to a random islamo-fascist country and forced to live there as a dhimmi without rights for a year or two.
Hey Ron Paul, you idiot, it’s islam. Islam has ALWAYS been like this. that goes back to the so called prophet himself. When the Jews refused to follow Mohammed, what did Mohammed do?
HE KILLED THEM. Plain and simple.
Craig commented:
Poor Andrea, still in false the terrorist propaganda. Grow-up! 9/11 was an inside job… wake-up?
ronpaul2012 commented:
Hey Ron Paul, you idiot, it’s islam. Islam has ALWAYS been like this. that goes back to the so called prophet himself. When the Jews refused to follow Mohammed, what did Mohammed do?
OKayyyy, Then you got this part right….nothing ever works…leave there asses alone to kill eachother. America is getting no where with them! YOU SAID IT PAL!
ronpaul2012 commented:
Hahaa, I used to be a democrat until Obama stole the election..Im not afraid to admit that but I found my way more to the right. My views have changed…I dont believe we should save the lives of terrorist and then turn around and kill innocent born and unborn babies. I think the troops need to be brought home because they are fighting an unwinnable war. How are you people so right?? Its all in your heads! Who are the crazy people??? YOU!!! lol! I want liberty and freedom in my country. I want the boarders locked up so them idiots cant get in here…And whoever said IM Craig…you need counseling!!
William R commented:
Well geeeeshhh good golly. Guess what, the man who ran the CIAs Osama bin Laden unit agrees with Ron Paul
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/183999
That’s right Michael Scheuer . Author of “Imperial Hubris” Remember the movie Path to 9/11?? The Clinton’s tried to have it shut down because the movie blamed the Clinton administration for 9/11. Well it was Michael Scheuer who went on TV over and over and said yes, we could have killed bin Laden at least ten times but National Security adviser Sandy Berger would never give the okay.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Path_to_9/11
Michael Scheuer now teaches at Georgetown University in Washington
Read his blog
http://non-intervention.com/
I can’t believe how dumb some of the commentators here truly are.
Steven commented:
Im going to leave it off like this. Its very simple, those here who believe in the israeli blowj*b traitor santorum, are israeli firsters. In that case go there and fight their war. you’re not kidding anyone. I wish more people had the balls to call it what it is. The Saudis are worse as far as secret aggression than Iran. Why dont we bomb them? Cant any of u fag chicken hawks get that? And if u think a war with Iran is important, get your kids to a recruitment center fast! ….yea, I didnt think so. Effin wusses! When santorum sends his kids over, ill be the first to give him props and pray for his kids. But that will never happen. But it may happen with yours…
ronpaul2012 commented:
ewww, Santorum is a wussy in a half!
bg commented:
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East meets West
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bg commented:
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Craig #150 August 29, 2011 at 4:53 pm
thought i recognized you..
you & TW always show in tandem (so to speak)..
yep, the infamous Victim / Victorious tag team..
hm hmm hmmm..
hows the Birther thingy going??
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bg commented:
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Craig #148 August 29, 2011 at 4:19 pm
“I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth.”
[scroll up/down for more]
oh wait, forgot about Barry’s Mammy..
August 25, 2011
Leader of the Green Committees Movement Addresses the World
[The future is the Jamahiriya, everywhere. The masses self-governing societies. Basic popular congresses and people’s committees. Green committees to guide, defend, expose, call, show the way forward to people’s power. It’s all there in The Green Book, read it, copy it, share it. Use your own communication systems, don’t rely on the enemy. Make your own communications. Take back your resources to your hands, do not be afraid of power – possess it. It is your power, wealth and arms that the governments, banks and militaries stole from you.]
June 3, 2011
Video: Cynthia McKinney Praises Gaddafi’s ‘Green Book’ Of Socialism
GREEN, everything, NWO
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adjasdkjasd commented:
clinton wasnt weak he bomb the middle east all the time look up history. He killed 1 million of thier people and Ron Paul back in 1998 durring clintons impeachment trial said he agreed to impeach clinton but on the grounds of unconstitutional law and not monica lewinsky. Then Ron Paul went on to predict that if we kept doing this we were about to see the biggest terrorist attack in the history of our nation. Well he was right. We did side with the AQ in the 80′s to get rid of russian occupation in the middle east. Has one terrorist attack happened in russia since they left by the way? Just a question sorry guys history is on Ron Paul side on this one I must say. When we first went in to the middle east was in 1953. The cia created the shah in 1953. cite. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_the_Shah's_Men, we trained the AQ and gave them weapons but we couldnt use our own weapons so we sold them russia weapons. Its all in the history just look it up. Europe isnt getting attack because its closer Nato which Europe india and isreal is a part of is also fighting in this war. Look it all up its all true. Just need to read alittle bit and stop listening to the war machine propaganda. Oh did we find WMDA’s in Iraq? No. Did regan sell sadam wmdas in the 80′s to go to war with iran and sadam said no and used them on his own people making them incapable of fighting thier neighbor yes. Then we had a vested interest to go in to iraq cause alot of this stuff make us look pretty stupid to the world thats why Nato backs us but its mostly a USA problem because we cause these problems. AQ was never in iraq before but now that sadam is gone they are they were affraide of him. Gidaffi was the same way. Kept AQ at bay. Now that we change the regime there are AQ leading the reble forces look it up CNN did an article on it. Also the next place we want to go is syria then Iran does this ever stop how far do we have to entangle our selves at how much money and how much cost? If we go bank rupt we cant protect our self you guys understand that right? I think america needs to stop making trouble before it even exsist and stop making trouble and follow the constitution. Theres nothing fringe about wanting to follow the USA laws and not take our marching orders from nato. So maybe after the terror attack I could see going after afganistan but why Iraq lybia yeman Pakistan i guess is understandable too seeing Bin Laden was there but thats it but we got our man the AQ is disbanded why occupation? We need to save the money and focus on locking down the security risks here in America. If they were so worried about AQ attacking us here why dont we really lock down our borders with military? There must be no real risk. You have to remeber these people dont have an military no air force no army no navy they have to resort to using our own planes against us. And you know what the no fly list takes care of most of that. How come they gave amensty to poppy farmers in Afganistan when we know thats where AQ gets most of its money from in the herion trade. With out the consumer AQ makes no money so I dont think they dont like the people they just dont like the occupancy. Wake up America. This is just how it is or do you really think people attack our country because its free and thier jelous the establishment story just doesnt add up I always thought it was right but felt like something was missing for some reason. And I will tell you I did months and months of research from many different mediums the news stories google the library old news clipping books everything untill I found the only answer you can come up with after a ton of research and thats the TRUTH.
adjasdkjasd commented:
unconstitutional war not law
AA commented:
I find it very interesting that when people bash Ron Paul it’s all on their ‘feeling’ or what they read or hear in the media. It very rarely has substance or facts. Understanding history and how governments lie to take care of special interests would give you a better understanding why we are over thre in the first place. Why are we bombing all these countries? Besides the terrorist thing, which is a lie, tell me why? Are you going to be honest? Or continue the lie you’ve been told over and over again by the media and the person who wrote this article?
You can keep calling Ron crazy, you can keep denying what is really going on, you can keep spewing lies, you can keep voting for the same people, but than hasn’t worked for several decades now and I would think that you would want to change that.
Ron Paul has NEVER gone back on his word, never voted against the Constitution, never voted or approve war, has been telling the news about the economic collapse coming to this country for years and the media keeps blocking that information out, has returned all his pay back to the treasury every year, has never taken any money from any corporation, special interest group, or lobbyist, has never flip flopped on what he believes in and has never, ever, said he would do something to get elected and then gone back on his word. To me that’s integrity. NO other politician can hold a candle to Ron.
You might not like everything Ron says, but You will NEVER agree with someone 100%. You have to look at his character and what he stands for.
So the question is, are you going to keep falling for the same lies and deception from these candidates that were bought by special interests, or are you going to try somone who’s honest and straight forward? If you keep going down the same path, this country will be destroyed within the next 5 years. Ron Paul is our only hope right now to change the direction of this country.
Stop the egos, stop the propoganda, stop listening to the corporate controlled media and start doing your own homework to find out the truth. Are you in or out? This is it people.
freethegreenenergy commented:
the Only thing that bothers me about Ron Paul is that he is a Freemason a member of yet another secret society ….Kennedy was right about secret society’s….someone mentioned Libya and 90 days that’s something everyone should realize that Obama has crossed the line.
911…yes people the government released a story about what happened that very day …and the story has never changed …in reality…very often crime Investigators form a narrative of who when and how and that changes as new facts come to light … this clearly did not happen !
but where is all the evidence at ?
how much money was spent on the investigation ?
was Kissinger the best man to lead the Investigation?
who is Judy Wood?
freethegreenenergy commented:
the jig is nearly up …. a comet will actually be a spacecraft and a spacestation will fall to earth …earthquakes ….worldwide total financial reorganization…those who would fight under cloaks of secrecy will be dragged into the light…the land they have purchased with others blood will be taken away….and the potential Free Energy systems will be purchased by power plants in the good ol USA….
thussaiththewalrus commented:
CRAIG IS QUOTING RON PAUL FOR HIS “FACTS.” RON PAUL LIES! His web site is so loaded with full-cloth fabrication that a normal, logical, intelligent person could just cry!
Fact: Ron Paul should be in prison for fraud! In 2008, his web site posted LIES that Ron Paul was “leading” in the straw polls in 19 states! (Ron Paul knew that he was not leading in a single state, yet he allowed the lies to be posted.) This constant lie (it was posted for MONTHS) caused the “Ron Paul Crazies” to contributed millions to him, all based on LIES! ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES WHO COULD ONLY DRAW 0 – 3 % QUIT THE RACE! NOT RON PAUL! HE STAYED IN AND LIED ABOUT HIS NUMBERS AND CONTINUED TO COLLECT MILLIONS! DON’T FOOL YOURSELF HE IS DANGEROUS AND CORRUPT AND WILL DO ANYTHING FOR MONEY!!!!! (While pretending to be a “good guy.”)
thussaiththewalrus commented:
READ THE “FATWA” THAT RON PAUL AND HIS CRAZY FOLLOWERS PROMOTE AND REFER TO! It is written in double-speak, (that most folks either refuse to analyze, or do not have the ability to understand, or the level of education to interpret)!
If you READ the Fatwa (at its face value and NOT as you “think” it is meant) then you would understand that the MUSLIMS ARE DEMANDING THAT ISRAEL BE DESTROYED!!!!
And, they will not “quit” waging war with the West until Israel is gone! (They started in England, DECADES before 9/11, you Ron Paul numbnuts) and THAT MAKES RON PAUL A JEW-HATER! And no “Jew hater” will EVER be elected president of the USA!
thussaiththewalrus commented:
The Ron Paul supporters (and Ron Paul himself) DO NOT BELIEVE IN MAJORITY RULE!
Republicans (who have known this crazy loon for 20 years) will NEVER vote for him.
Democrats can’t vote in the Republican primary.
There are about 6 libertarians and independents in the USA; not enough to put Ron Paul on the ballot.
So, you nuts who are claiming that you are going to “vote for Ron Paul” need to take a class in civics!
To “vote” for him you need to be a Republican. And, the Republicans HATE him! Get a grip and learn to count! He was tremendously organized in 2008 yet John McCain was nominated before the Ron Paul delegates even got to vote!!! You CANNOT WIN WITH ONE PERCENT!!! Thank heavens for that!
Dreklaw commented:
Wow… I am simply amazed by the ignorace. The division… the media induced frenzy. I have been to the middle east on NUMEROUS trips. I’ve spent a significant amount of time there. The people in the middle east are people just like us here in the US who are just trying to survive. It’s even more impossible for them because of all of the sanctions we have imposed on them that have killed hundreds of thousands of people… probably millions by now. Guess how many suicide bombers were in Iraq before 9/11? NONE… guess how many have popped up since we unconstitutionally invaded there country??? Somewhere around 500. It’s not easy to get people to kill themselves for your cause, think a little deeper.
If they were over here, bombing our countries with planes or drones, and keeping us from getting food/energy/medical supplies, and we watched countless friends and family members get maimed or killed… how the hell would we feel about them? Would you be willing to strap a bomb to yourself if they killed your mother, your father, you children, your husband, your wife, your brother, sister… friends? I BET MORE OF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO THAN YOU REALIZE. You’re so quick to support dropping bombs on them, so quick to continue these countless, endless wars… If they hit you where it hurt, I could see you doing the same damn thing as them.
Bin Laden had specific intent to destroy America because we have been over there bombing for WAY WAY WAY TOO LONG. His main motivation for all of Al-Qaeda is the simple fact that we are OVER THERE AND WE HAVE NO BUSINESS THERE! His plan was to drag us into as many wars as possible to bankrupt us. Now he’s dead and we are bankrupt. We continue bankrupting ourselves??? WHY??? Can’t we see our presence is just going to continue breeding more suicide bombers and more terrorist attacks on America? Please THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS… do some of your own research, and don’t get it from biased sources, try unbiased accredited ones. You will be amazed.
Audrey commented:
Political Affiliation- Republican to the TEETH.
Choice for POTUS in 2012? Ron Paul.
Militant Conservative commented:
Crazy nutter Paul supporters.
The comment about the Freemasons, just shows
How ignorant the poster is. Freemasons are not a
Secret society, we’re a society that HAS secrets.
We also have crazy members too, some are D’s.
Take it from a freemason, we don’t control jack.
We do provide free hospital care for kids.
All Shriners are masons. Choke on our good work.
i'm not crazy i'm just reading what i see commented:
How can someone suggest that we should hate Islam? That’s like saying people should hate Christianity or Judaism. We as a people have been infringing on the basic human rights that we endorse in our own country under The Constitution. Reading these comments following what Ron Paul said (and I agree with Ron), it is clear that there are strong feelings of anti-islamic practitioners. To me, it is a form of radical racism and the commentators on this page are seeking the suppression of all Muslim people, who are only seeking their own form of freedom through religious practice. In our government, we promote the freedom for religious practice yet we dare not allow people to live as free Muslims. The American people have sent countless innocent people to the depths of mass graves all for the sake of a supposed attack on the United States on 11 September 2001. -I say supposed because Osama bin Laden had actually denied the attacks against the USA on several occasions. In fact, in the video in which Osama “assumes” responsibility of the 9/11 attacks, he writes a note with his RIGHT hand despite the fact that he is LEFT-HANDED. Following that one video, Osama never takes responsibility for attacks again- and (even if the attacks were coordinated by Osama bin Laden) Osama had constantly left us with the message that he promoted that we leave the Muslim countries alone to govern themselves as we had asked of the British government in 1776 and that the attacks were a retaliation against American oppression. Muslims are not to be blamed for troubles in the Middle East which were created by the American government (in an effort to promote a free democracy to people who do not wish to live that way). They do not hate us for our freedoms, that would be jealousy, and as a result if it were true, then they would hate their leaders more for promoting a non-democratic state yet time and time again we see only fractions of small rebel groups which is to say that maybe they are quite content with their way of life. Who is to say that we should force our ideals unto them? The United States people should be more inclined to sympathize with their situation rather than to oppose them. Though I will not vote for Ron Paul, I understand his position and history, for those of you who have no idea, has dictated his point quite accurately. The Muslim Nations are not a threat to this country. This country is a threat to itself. We are going bankrupt as the American dollar depreciates in value. The American stock market has seen drastic drops within the past few months. AND we still feed on the fear of terrorist attacks from outside our nation despite the fact that there are several dangerous and severe domestic terrorist groups within our own borders that the United States government has done less against than a disbanded group with very little communications in other countries.
i'm not crazy i'm just reading what i see commented:
So, I speak of history. Before the commentators of this “thread” can criticize me on behalf of my “outlandish” attempts at rationalizing Ron Paul, I would like to point out that although the Muslim Nations have sought to take over various countries in the past it is not against the recurring themes of human nature in history. The Muslims did enslave other races and people but so did the Greeks, the Chinese, the Italians, the Spanish (does everyone just simply neglect that the Spanish Inquisition even took place), the AMERICANS, etc. My point herein is that the history of the Muslim nations at one point was to take over and convert but so did the Christians and the Romans (crucifixion ring any bells?–where the term Roman candle comes from). In fact, although the Muslim people conquered many lands they only attempted to convert people of non-monotheistic religions and taxed heavily other religions that were monotheistic e.g. Christianity, Judaism, and Buddhism (in terms of Buddhism, look it up if you don’t believe me.) The Muslim doctrines of belief are similar to that of Christian and Jewish Doctrines. In fact the Koran even makes mention of Jesus, though he is cited as a prophet and not the messiah.
All in all, to criticize a group of people based on their beliefs is outlandish in its own right. We as a people should seek the truth of matters that are before us. That is why our constitution grants us the freedom of press. It is to ensure that the people of our nation is provided with information meant to educate us on surrounding policies that affect our daily lives. The American people are becoming less and less educated falling to the rank of 17th in relation to other countries. More and more people are more than willing to believe blindly than to divulge themselves in the meaningful tasks of furthering their education. We must not succumb to the opinions of others but to seek our own opinions through the gathering of information.
To those of you that don’t care to listen about conspiracy theorist, you don’t open yourselves up to what conspiracy theorists have to say and thus don’t comprehend that events like 9/11 are speculative. Can a 767 really fly at 510 knots at ground level as it was reported to have done so on 9/11? That would mean that that COMMERCIAL plane’s flight was equivalent to over 1 mach (above the speed of sound) at an altitude of 22,000 ft. Impossible. BUT, that was what was reported and thus it is perfectly understandable to me why people would suggest it was a conspiracy (among many other facts such as the video in my response above).
Don’t trash what I have said. Take it as information that may be or may not be right and form your own opinion based on it.
Wake Up! commented:
America were clearly involved in orchestrating 9/11 – THE EVIDENCE IS CLEARLY THERE FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO LOOK OBJECTIVELY. Muslims are no more a mixture of good and bad just as, Jews, Christians, Hindus, atheists, etc. Stop being small minded and ignorant.
9/11 gave the US and UK the excuse they needed to start a war with a foreign country for their own benefit.
The ‘Weapons of Mass Destruction’ gave them the perfect excuse for a war with a foreign country.
They will do something again, probably to allow them to start war with Iran.
The Muslims get blamed over and over again. The government creates hatred towards them for their own gain.
Wake up and smell the propaganda!
The evidence is there if you want to read it. If you want to be racist and ignorant then carry on siding with the world leaders who don’t even care about us – the little people.
Peace and Love.
Crazy commented:
Japan is getting better…