Stunner. Democrat Obama Ready to Cut-&-Run From Afghanistan; Despite Warnings From Generals
Posted by Jim Hoft on Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 10:41 PM
Remember when Obama lectured Republicans about finishing the fight in Afghanistan?
“We need to finish the fight against Al-Qaeda and the Taliban instead of going into Iraq.”
On Wednesday democrat Barack Obama will ignore his generals and announce his plans to cut and run from Afghanistan, the real war on terror.
The Guardian reported:
Barack Obama is set to reject the advice of the Pentagon by announcing on Wednesday night the withdrawal of up to 30,000 troops from Afghanistan by November next year, in time for the US presidential election.
The move comes despite warnings from his military commanders that recent security gains are fragile. They have been urging him to keep troop numbers high until 2013.
The accelerated drawdown will dismay American and British commanders in Kabul, who have privately expressed concern that the White House is now being driven by political rather than military imperatives.
“This is not something we feel entirely comfortable with,” a Whitehall official told the Guardian.
Obama’s nationally televised address, the sixth he has given since becoming president, is intended to mark the beginning of the end of American military deployment in Afghanistan, from a present high of almost 100,000 troops.
This news is really not so shocking. After all, Obama wouldn’t be a true democrat if he wasn’t willing to cut-&-run from battle.
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Published May 21, 2012 at 12:19 am - 42 Comments
katablog.com commented:
Why are we stunned? Did Obummer listen to advice from the team he hired to advise him on the economy? Did he listen when his advisers told him that the WAR in Libya needed congressional approval? Has he listened to the American people? Does he pay any attention to that troublesome founding document called the Constitution?
Nah, obummer will tell you: “I won”.
saveus commented:
obummer as commander in chief is an oxymoron or, if you prefer, a moron.
dunce commented:
It is impossible to impeach him with a democrat majority in the senate but maybe he can be removed from office for being dangerously delusional. Too bad biden is nearly as detached from reality as as zero.
gus commented:
It’s never had anything to do with winning or defeatiing terrorists or the Taliban.
It’s all about campaigning.
regularguy commented:
I grieves me to say this, but it’s getting to be time for the troops to come home. My heart supports the troops and our apparent objectives, vague though they be–even on the cusp of some significant positive developments they’ve been able to achieve during this recent surge, though it was hamstrung by dimension (too few troops with too stringent ROE’s) from the start.
Bottom line is, we’re not a serious nation (anymore) and we refuse to identify islam as the nefarious, deadly enemy it is. We are fighting this global conflict with with half-measures and certainly without the determination and savagery it warrants. The Afghan culture is so foreign to the west, to human development and civilized behavior so as to be virtually impossible to develop enough to be independent. The culture has never seen real freedom, and really doesn’t care enough to fight for it themselves to keep it. Opium fields fuels this war and the Taliban, and the drug is bought and consumed by European trash.
Our president is a total POS and will not fight for any honorable ideal this nation stands for. Every one of our dead servicemen who died in this war, and likely those who died in Iraq, will have died because 300,000,000 of their countrymen did not value their sacrifice enough to see this war through to victory. Instead, they elected a mendacious buffoon who cannot grasp the concept in living an honorable life in service to their country, who does not have the true character to inspire the best in all of us to support these troops. He cannot grasp the concept that his talents are not for or about him, but how he can serve others. Instead, he reads from a teleprompter a bunch of worthless platitudes and plays golf. It’s all a disgrace and a tragic waste, plain and simple. And, we are failing the best and brightest of our civilization who DO grasp the concept of service to others, as we watch this travesty unfold before our eyes by not demanding our so-called leaders defeat this enemy both militarily and ideologically with the plain truth.
The troops should not have to die for a disengaged public who do not care enough about the men who sacrifice for them to be informed about the nature of an enemy who would kill us all. They should not have to die for a president who is so inept, unqualified and unfit for his office so as to declare that his Libyan adventure does not qualify as “hostilities.” That we, as a nation, tolerate this paucity of character in our president is equally disturbing.
Despite this, I still pray that the military efforts of far better men and women than I will somehow be successful, despite the dishonor we show them in our poor support for their sacrifices. I know the readers of this blog are supportive of the troops and their mission, but, let’s face it, the rest of the American public dishonors the great gift of their citizenship by being oblivious to these sacrifices as they focus on the unimportant.
gus commented:
Well said Regularguy. There is no need to be there unless there is a goal. There is none. Obama couldn’t LEAD a one man parade to the MENS’ ROOM.
Robert commented:
We should have smashed the place into rubble, and on the way out, told them that if we had to come back we would smash the rubble into dust, and them along with it.
jony101 commented:
As an ex-military confirmed warmonger, I like war as much as anyone else but unfortunately I have no confidence in the generals/admirals of the military. After almost 10 years there is no victory, time to cut our loses and leave. The US military is not very good at peacekeeping missions, that’s what gets soldiers killed.
If we were fighting to win, than it might be worthwhile to stay but the perfumed generals/admirals seem more interested in implementing “gays” in the military type of evolutions to further there careers.
In this case I agree with the “long legged macdaddy” but for different reasons.
kato commented:
Of course, it’s for political reasons. The majority of Americans are wondering what, after 10 years, we’re doing there. The Afghan and Pakistani governments are hopelessly corrupt, the population is living in the Middle Ages, and no one in this government seems to be telling us what exactly is being achieved. We’re supposed to just trust them. (This last, by the way, is not solely a Blowhard thing; it characterized the administration of the Compassionate Dope.)
The line bandied about by cartoon conservatives, “If we don’t fight them there, we’ll be fighting them here,” is so utterly stupid that I despair of where this country is headed. I expect lamebrain stuff like that from liberals, but we’ve got mass stupidity across the entire political spectrum.
Wave the flag and yell “God Bless America” til the cows come home. I guess, for many, it beats thinking.
kato commented:
As far back as 2004, I became aware of the irony that the liberals, who opposed our attack on Iraq vehemently, buttressed their own patriotism by arguing that they supported the war in Afghanistan. Anyone who knew anything about Afghanistan would have known that there was no way we were going to turn those medieval savages into a functioning political system worthy of the 21st century. The chances of reforming Iraq were far greater.
To those who profess to be conservative, a bit of advice: End your love affair with the Compassionate Dope. He was right about going into Afghanistan, but entirely wrong in the way that he had our military fight there. They should have been out within months, at best, a year. Instead, after 10 years, it’s going to appear that the most powerful nation in human history is walking away like a dog with its tail between its legs. There are two administrations and two parties responsible for this debacle.
jorgen commented:
Eitehr Obozo has a knack for doing the wrong thing or he is siding with the wrong side. By all means get out, but finish the war first.
Granny commented:
#11 June 22, 2011 at 12:28 am
jorgen commented:
Eitehr Obozo has a knack for doing the wrong thing or he is siding with the wrong side. By all means get out, but finish the war first.
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In order to finish a war you must have some clear objective of what exactly it is you want to achieve – something that has ALWAYS been missing from Afghanistan once we got beyond bomb the Taliban and Al Queda (even further) into the stone age.
As far as security for the Afghanis goes, I see little point in installing a government and constitution that is based in shariah & does not freedom of religion. Currently our military is dying and we are expending huge amounts of our ever-scarcer treasure so that the current Afghani regime can negotiate with the Taliban. To heck with that!
Once upon a time we knew how to do a bang up job of nation building – see West Germany and Japan. Afghan and Iraq were doomed from that perspective from the get-go. As far as I’m concerned, bring them all home and let the Chinese deal with them.
Andreas K. commented:
The game Counter Strike sums this up very easily: Terrorists win
Granny, there’s a difference between A-stan with the talis and Germany/Japan with the fascists.
The fascists in Germany and Japan were removed. The leaders were hunted and put on trial. But A-stan won’t ever give up their fascism: islam.
And without islam there wouldn’t be a taliban. Remove AQ and taliban and after a few years islam will spawn something else.
A de-nazification, read de-islamisation, of A-stan is impossible. The US should have simply nuked them as retaliation for 9-11. One nuke on Kabul would have worked wonders. Sure, the UN and the rest of the world would have screamed, but they scream at anything the US does anyway.
Also, Japan and Germany served a purpose in the Cold War. They were important. A-stan has never served any purpose and never will. It’s simply not important. It’s just another islamo-fascist sh*thole. Not to mention that the Japanese and Germans are (were, in case of the Germans) highly adaptable, hard working people. You can’t say the same about mohammedans. I know, someone will now scream that I’m racist, but show me the mohammedan country that can compete with Germany or Japan in any aspect, may it be economical, social or anything else.
The Germans and Japanese rebuilt the country after the war with help from the US (Germany received most help.) The mohammedans generally just sit down in the dirt and whine for some foreigners to do that job.
Pull out of A-stan? Fine, but should they attack you again, be prepared to give them the total war they want. You have a nuclear arsenal. Use it.
bobdog commented:
If Obama’s so worried about next year’s elections, perhaps he should spend some time thinking about the economy, the national debt, energy politics, er, policy, jobs, inflation, taxes, overregulation, union corruption…
We’re about to be Vietnamed again.
Granny commented:
#13 Andreas K -
I don’t disagree with a single word you write. As far as I’m concerned Afghanistan has always been essentially a waste of blood and treasure with Iraq not far behind.
vityaz commented:
I believe in America. I believe we can survive anything. Even obama.
Conservative to the Core commented:
It’s over.
Potkas7 commented:
Cut and Run? We’ve been there for ten bloody years! And for what purpose? Yes, we went to avenge the attack on the World Trade Center, but we accomplished that in the first six months. I know, I was there. But what has been our reason for staying?
Some say it’s to train the Afghans. Well, it takes 11 weeks to coin a new Marine from a fresh recruit and yet after a decade of intensive training Afghanistan doesn’t even have a police force worthy of the name let alone an army. And it’s not because these guys don’t know how to fight, believe me!
We’ve accomplished all we can in that benighted land. It’s time to cut the Afghans and the Pakistanis loose and focus on our relations with India.
Andreas K. commented:
Potkas7, the problem is… wars aren’t fought like wars anymore. They are more like politically correct police actions today.
You should have nuked them. Seriously. Why risk the lives of good sailors, soldiers and marines for this when one single bomb can achieve the same thing?
In 1945, the US nuked Japan as part of the ongoing air war. The result of the entire air campaign was utter destruction of the entire Japanese warmaking potential. From Nagasaki over to Tokyo every single city that had been hit by the raids was essentially gone. And it worked.
But I forgot, we’re in 2011 and islam is peace and talking about dropping bombs on people, who follow an ideology that oppresses everyone and everything that’s not part of that ideology, is bad..
No Man commented:
Forget Afghanistan and Iraq. The war is here.
gorgo commented:
The definition of feckless.
#1AMERICAN commented:
I have said all along time to bring ALL service personell home, give them a 6 month vacation, then line them up along the border of mexico and give them $500.00 for every illegal shot crossing illegally…I guess the illegals would think twice about coming over
Mrs. X commented:
We need to get out of there. We should have been out years ago.
Watch the documentary “Restrepo” and see if you don’t agree.
J commented:
Perhaps this is why Petraeus is moving to the CIA. He knows he is not being allowed to fight the war militarily, so he hopes to use intel to fight the war. What he is not bargaining on is the CIA is full of anti-american, dem loving partisans that seek the elevation of their party and their own power rather than the defense of this country.
martha commented:
My memory is a little shaky on this so someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but I seem to remember that when we left Cambodia in 75, Pol Pot waltzed in and killed a million of his own people. Like I said, someone correct me if I’m wrong
Freddy Fingers commented:
Ahhh, Chickenhawk Jim. Did you serve? Have you done 6 or 7 deployments since 9/11 by any chance? I didn’t see that in your bio but I could be wrong.
We’ve been there for 9.5 years dude. UBL is dead. We are spending billions of dollars a month, wearing down our best equipment which we now have no plans to replace. We are in a meat grinder losing men and women every day of the week fighting a growing insurgency for what?
I’ve supported this war since day 1, but at some point enough needs to be enough. You need to STFU dude.
Chisum commented:
Freddy Fingers,
So, according to you one has to have done 6 or 7 deployments before one can have an opinion on the Afghan war?
Really? The last time I looked our Commander-in-Chief is making the final decisions on this war and I don’t believe he has ever worn a uniform in his life! Not even a boyscout uniform!
So take your pretzel logic and go finger yourself!
Troll.
LibertyAtStake commented:
Political promises to moveon.org and the rest of his lunatic base predictably trumps “conditions on the ground” for Agitator-In-Chief.
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SeniorD commented:
Our Puppet President is a true demodonk – he starts foreign wars (see Johnson, Clinton et al) and then lets someone else pick up the pieces (see Nixon, Reagan, Bush et al). If he thinks he’ll get the military vote next year, he should think again.
Carolina Kathy commented:
Notice that the reporting paper is in the UK. No negative coverage in the US for The Won. I suppose we’ll have to move to Britain to find out what is really going on here.
We failed in Afghanistan the day Pelosi was elected Speaker.
#7, Robert has the threadwinner, but I think I would have opted for “dust” on step 1.
The Won is a great reverse barometer. If it is bad for America, he does it. If it is good for America he regulates it.
Sparky commented:
The US beat the Taliban at the outset of the war. However, it is the occupation that is problematic because of Pakistan and because the war in Iraq used necessary military resources.
The surge in Afghanistan is working, as are the drone attacks in Pakistan.
It is too soon to pull troops from Afghanistan and it is absolutely demoralizing for the military who gave all to win a war, only to be pulled with the finish line in sight!
Had George Bush been President right now, Conservatives would be gung-ho to win the war in Afghanistan.
Under Obama, Conservatives want to turn tail and run!
I do hope Conservatives figure out their inconsistent views before 2012 or else we will all suffer with the likes of a Jon Huntsman or god forbid, a 2-term Obama.
dunce commented:
Our presence and efforts are about more than a victory or loss in the military sense because we are not in a conventional all out war as the WW2 was. A quick look at a map today shows that we have military assets deployed on both sides of iran. You could say we have Pakistan surrounded also even without a formal alliance with India. Diplomatic persuasion is more likely to succeed if you are carrying a big stick, a big stick on the other side of the world is not so intimidating.Iran recently called on all muslims to form a military alliance with the end game of establishing a caliphate Obama is doing all that he can to depose the current muslim leaders across the world, the so called arab spring would not have a chance without obamas policies. We can deploy our navy and drones, but any fool other than obama can see the limitations of that in the nothing country of Libya. Control of events can not be achieved without boots on the ground.
Towering Barbarian commented:
Freddy Fingers@26 brings up an interesting point; the fact that Mr. Obama never served in the military clearly means that Mr. Obama is nothing more than a chickenhawk by liberal standards. Doubtless Freddy Finger’s implied desire that anybody who supports Mr. Obama STFU will be echoed by the voters in 2012.
That said, I find it interesting that Mr. Obama lacks the will to continue a campaign vital to American security interests but has the energy to engage in “kinetic actions” of relatively dubious value at the behest of France. {>_<}