Horrible RINO John McCain Defends Obama, Smears Former CIA Director Mukasey, Misleads on Panetta’s Comments & Makes America Less Safe
Posted by Jim Hoft on Thursday, May 12, 2011, 5:20 AM
It is now well documented that enhanced interrogation techniques provided the information that led the US to Osama Bin Laden. But, many diehard liberals insist that not only are enhanced interrogation methods torture, but they don’t work.
Today John McCain smeared former CIA Director Mukasey and played word games Leon Panetta on enhanced interrogation techniques to defend his flawed position.
Just last week CIA Director Panetta confirmed that waterboarding gleaned information that led us to Bin Laden.
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Awful RINO John McCain put America at a greater risk for another massive terrorist attack by misrepresenting Panetta’s previous statements on waterboarding and by misrepresenting the effectiveness of the enhanced interrogation techniques.
McCain wrote this editorial for the The Washington Post:
Former attorney general Michael Mukasey recently claimed that “the intelligence that led to bin Laden . . . began with a disclosure from Khalid Sheik Mohammed, who broke like a dam under the pressure of harsh interrogation techniques that included waterboarding. He loosed a torrent of information — including eventually the nickname of a trusted courier of bin Laden.” That is false.
I asked CIA Director Leon Panetta for the facts, and he told me the following: The trail to bin Laden did not begin with a disclosure from Khalid Sheik Mohammed, who was waterboarded 183 times. The first mention of Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti — the nickname of the al-Qaeda courier who ultimately led us to bin Laden — as well as a description of him as an important member of al-Qaeda, came from a detainee held in another country, who we believe was not tortured. None of the three detainees who were waterboarded provided Abu Ahmed’s real name, his whereabouts or an accurate description of his role in al-Qaeda.
In fact, the use of “enhanced interrogation techniques” on Khalid Sheik Mohammed produced false and misleading information. He specifically told his interrogators that Abu Ahmed had moved to Peshawar, got married and ceased his role as an al-Qaeda facilitator — none of which was true. According to the staff of the Senate intelligence committee, the best intelligence gained from a CIA detainee — information describing Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti’s real role in al-Qaeda and his true relationship to bin Laden — was obtained through standard, noncoercive means.
I know from personal experience that the abuse of prisoners sometimes produces good intelligence but often produces bad intelligence because under torture a person will say anything he thinks his captors want to hear — true or false — if he believes it will relieve his suffering. Often, information provided to stop the torture is deliberately misleading.
Mistreatment of enemy prisoners endangers our own troops, who might someday be held captive. While some enemies, and al-Qaeda surely, will never be bound by the principle of reciprocity, we should have concern for those Americans captured by more conventional enemies, if not in this war then in the next.
Though it took a decade to find bin Laden, there is one consolation for his long evasion of justice: He lived long enough to witness what some are calling the Arab Spring, the complete repudiation of his violent ideology.
As we debate how the United States can best influence the course of the Arab Spring, can’t we all agree that the most obvious thing we can do is stand as an example of a nation that holds an individual’s human rights as superior to the will of the majority or the wishes of government? Individuals might forfeit their life as punishment for breaking laws, but even then, as recognized in our Constitution’s prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment, they are still entitled to respect for their basic human dignity, even if they have denied that respect to others.
All of these arguments have the force of right, but they are beside the most important point. Ultimately, this is more than a utilitarian debate. This is a moral debate. It is about who we are.
I don’t mourn the loss of any terrorist’s life. What I do mourn is what we lose when by official policy or official neglect we confuse or encourage those who fight this war for us to forget that best sense of ourselves. Through the violence, chaos and heartache of war, through deprivation and cruelty and loss, we are always Americans, and different, stronger and better than those who would destroy us.
What a horrible piece of trash.
Here’s a bit of information for McCain and the libs.
The “Arab spring” has nothing to do with Al-Qaeda. It is not a repudiation of Al-Qaeda. In fact it looks like the Islamic extremists have already made great gains after the fall of the pro-Western regimes. It’s not like it’s a secret.
It looks like McCain has fallen back on his old ways and is trying to get the state-run media to love him again.
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Published May 23, 2012 at 4:57 am - 64 Comments
Taqiyyotomist commented:
McCain’s been actively supporting Obama since he “ran against” him for President.
Why does the GOP not give him the boot already? Seriously. As an analogy, if the party was a Church, he’d have been excommunicated for wholly embracing Satanism.
McCain is NOT ON OUR SIDE.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
If the GOP cannot dump politicians for acting against the GOP’s interests (and, not coincidentally, America’s interests)…then the GOP is worthless.
#1AMERICAN commented:
time to put McCain out to pasture…..term limits to get rid of old ways and old ideas
workingclass artist commented:
Of course McCain is defending Barry….they made a deal so Barry could run as POTUS…
denotchka commented:
Okay I only have ONE THING to say about this: YOU FORGOT TO PUT YOUR BRAIN IN MORON! Michael Mukasey as far as I know has NEVER been the director of the CIA. During George W.’S adminoistration there were 3 and Michael was not one of them.
1. George Tenet
2. Porter Goss
3. Gen. Hayes
Please get it straight. Yes, you got Leon right, but this is freaking laughable!
katy commented:
Water boarding was vindicated and McCain is now scrambling to save what little is left of his PATHETIC and PROGRESSIVE reputation.
Granny Smith commented:
I have suspected that McCain threw the ’08 election since he skeedaddled back to DC. That he stuck with the campaign financing agreement to his great detriment after Obama refused to do so and the way he allowed his campaign managers to set up Sarah Palin as a public whipping boy has only added to that suspicion. This just puts the frosting on the cake.
John McCain isn’t even a RINO. He was complicit in the installation of a radical Marxist regime with totalitarian aspirations in DC. And frankly, it makes me wonder about all those allegations that John McCain was a traitor that I remember so well from the days of the Vietnam War.
Trialdog commented:
Failed fighter pilot, failed POW, failed husband, failed Presidential candidate, but safe sympathy candidate from Arizona, John “Loser” McCain – who the hell cares what he thinks? The guy misinterprets all the good old American tolerence and generosity he’s received over the years as an endorsement of his beliefs. He actually thinks himself a leader. The opposite is true John. Retire. Fade away. You are not important and no one except your political enemies care what you “think” because all you “think” simply reinforces their dislike of you and their hatred of those who have been so willing to put up with you over the years. Stop while you still have some dignity and honor (however fragile).
newrouter commented:
“Michael Mukasey as far as I know has NEVER been the director of the CIA.”
that be true. he was attorney general.
RedBeard commented:
Thanks for reminding me why I had to hold my nose when I voted for McCain. Lesser of evils, compared to Obama, definitely. But still a very bad apple.
thebronze commented:
Good job, AZ!! You voted this idiot back in, instead of a true Conservative like JD Hayworth…
Jenny commented:
Anyone surprised by this is not paying attention. Arizona voters had to know he would revert to his former ways once re-elected. The only thing I’m surprised about is it took him this long.
Noislamocommie commented:
NEW WORLD ORDER TRASH….how hard is it to recall in AZ?
olm commented:
I think it is worse than his former ways. I think the guy has lost it. Really lost it.
Susan commented:
“It looks like McCain has fallen back on his old ways and is trying to get the state-run media to love him again.”
This and could be Liberal Hawks (aka neoconservatives) are losing total support of their doctrine ‘spreading the Democracy to Islamists ethnic-cleansing Christians abroad while spreading their Liberal Fascism at home’.
Moderate thing about simultaneously playing both sides of the fence the that neither side will support you.
ProLifer commented:
If we are given another Republican candidate like McCain, Obama will be re-elected.
(It was Sarah Palin — not John McCain — that I voted for!)
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dunce commented:
McCain is such a blundering fool the best thing he can do for our country is nothing, he can not do anything right.
aprilnovember811 commented:
John McCain is an old fool and traitor. He should have never been re-elected in AZ. What fools the people are there. He’s an embarrassment. How does he continue to defend this unconscionable creature Obama? Is he aware of anything this man is doing behind the scenes? Is he aware of Operation Gunrunner that killed two border agents? Is he aware that he invites so called poets to the White House who glorify cop killing? Is he aware of his lying?
John McCain needs to resign. He is showing a clear pattern of enabling this criminal Obama. For years he’s gotten by on his POW story. No more McCain. You aren’t that man anymore. You’ve become a disgrace.
aprilnovember811 commented:
Call him and ask him to resign I did. 202-224-2235.
I asked his office about this. They weren’t aware of course. I asked him why he continues to enable this liar Obama, no comment. I asked him if he was aware of Obama and Holder selling weapons to the drug cartels in Mexico under “Operation Gunrunner?” His answer of course, “I don’t know anything about that!” I am sick of the damn lies.
MCCAIN IS A TRAITOR. AN UGLY TRAITOR!!!!
aprilnovember811 commented:
HE’S EVIL OR SENILE! HE’S NO HERO ANYMORE.
jainphx commented:
McCain was re-elected because he spent 22 million dollars with 2 an hour media messages on all radio and tv stations basically destroying J.D. think of that, here we have a man that while running for President would not allow anyone in his camp to mention Obama’s middle name, but destroyed the life of one who had the guts to run against him. He never has any qualms of attacking political opponents just as long as they aren’t Democraps. I’m ashamed of us here in Arizona that sent this betrayer and back stabber back to repeat it all.
Valerie commented:
If you’re talking about horrible RINOs, here’s another one.
Mitt Romney is daring to speak in a location near stem cell research.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/may/11/romney-speech-venue-raises-pro-life-doubts/
About stem cell research: God gave us an extravagant surplus of reproductive cells. If each cell were used to make an embryo, every healthy woman has enough such cells to populate a large city, and every healthy man produces enough such cells to populate the entire United States.
The location of the speech says nothing about his position on the subject. But if he does think it’s ok for a research institute to do that kind of research with private funding, and if that makes him a RINO, the Republicans lose the next election, because they are unreasonable and will drive other researchers out of the country the same way they did the medical researchers.
About John McCain: this man was a prisoner of war, and was mistreated. He has never made a secret about his position with respect to the treatment of prisoners. He is also one of the original Reagan Revolutionaries. He won a lot of votes from all kinds of people in the last election. If this man truly is a horrible RINO, then the Republicans lose the next election, because there is no room for any political spectrum within the party.
I think John McCain is wrong on this issue, and several others. That doesn’t make him a RINO, it makes him a man with whom I have agreed on a lot of issues.
Valerie commented:
#19 May 12, 2011 at 9:57 am
aprilnovember811 commented:
Yeah, the Democratic party would really love all of you to call McCain’s office and “resign.”
Lee__ commented:
The Tea Parties of each state needs to push for local reforms….such as rules for primaries. This guy was my last choice of those running in the last election. The primary debates were run by the leftist media….how about we arrange for it to be run by conservative media/pundits the next time, eh?
As far as McCain in particular….Arizona had it’s chance to come up with an alternative…..
Establishment Republicans are daring us to form a third party…..maybe it’s time.
StrangernFiction commented:
John McCain:
“I disagree with many of the president’s policies, but I believe he is a patriot sincerely intent on using his time in office to advance our country’s cause. I reject accusations that his policies and beliefs make him unworthy to lead America or opposed to its founding ideals.”
This tells me all I need to know about McShame. As Taq said at #1, he is not on our side. A shining example of a Vichy Republican.
Joanne commented:
When McCain ran against Obama, he had no fight in him…he just stood aside and willingly let Obama win…….on purpose. McCain is a traitor to the United States.
“Mistreatment of enemy prisoners endangers our own troops, who might someday be held captive.”
Like that has worked so far. Weakness is seen as weakness, and it emboldens the enemy, not the opposite. McCain is a moron. If every dead terrorist was bathed in pork blood and buried two weeks later, they would respect the U.S. in a hurry.
StrangernFiction commented:
HE’S EVIL OR SENILE! HE’S NO HERO ANYMORE.
I vote both.
MikeSilver commented:
We are in a sad state of repairs when the Republican Presidential nominee makes us all grateful that Obama is president.
gus commented:
Valerie said he isn’t a RINO. Valerie is a moron.
Sasja commented:
He was never a war hero. He is, and was, a coward.
Radegunda commented:
Valerie, McCain is a Rino for other reasons too, such as the “McCain-Feingold” assault on the First Amendment, and his view that we need to be nicer to illegal aliens because “they’re all God’s children” (right — our prisons are filled with “God’s children” too). And he said we had nothing to worry about in an Obama presidency because “he’s a decent family man.”
Well, I’m sure the McCain family isn’t hurting under Obama’s policies; in fact, his dipstick daughter (apple doesn’t fall far) is building a career on a) being his daughter; and b) ridiculing those many who really are being hurt by Obama’s policies and are saying something about it.
waicool commented:
McCain is a fools fool and the primary reason we have Obama as our president.
Rock commented:
Or is it nothing more than McCain has seen the writing on the wall and is setting the stage for switching Parties? The only Republicans that will vote for him after these last few years are other RINO types.
gus commented:
McCain is 100 years old and has 6 years left on his term. He isn’t part of any solution to any of America’s problems. He likes being on TV and he likes hanging out in the Senate dining room with his “peeps”. I will pubilcally thank Mr McCain for his service to the nation 40 years ago. He was a very very good POW. He is a very very very poor U.S.Senator. I have NEVER called MYSELF a REPUBLICAN. John McCain is the perfect example why.
BurmaShave commented:
McCain was terribly tortured, in the genuine sense, by the North Vietnamese; so quite understandably he is very much against torture.
The trouble is the guy who graduated at the very bottom of his class at West Point has bought into the Leftist meme that EITs are the same as torture. Unfortunately in doing so he diminishes the crimes committed against himself in the service of leftists’ grossly exaggerating the inhumanity perpetrated against terrorists, who have a priori renounced humanity anyway.
gus commented:
Burma. McCain went to Annapolis/Naval Academy. He was 894 of 899. His Father was a Naval Admiral.
Read between the lines.
archer52 commented:
McCain is an old fool. Here is a little truth about “enhanced” techniques. They may or may not work, but after they are done, the threat of re-introducing them into the captive’s life if he doesn’t talk is a good technique. So, if I say “If you don’t talk, we’ll be back in the boarding room.” and then the guy says, “I’ll talk.” You could argue my threats were a normal technique and not part of the enhanced method. Which would be inaccurate.
People get tired of being scared and worried. Then just when they think they are past the worst of it, it rears it’s head again. That often breaks them.
Been there, done that.
Westie commented:
Actually imprisonment by the Vietcong not only destroyed McCain mentally and spirituality but they were able to turn him against his own country. McCain should have never have been in any position of responsibility after he was discharged from the Navy. Unfortunately his true condition was never revealed but I’m sure it was recognized within the military and possibly seen as an advantage.
Nelle commented:
I wish he would declare himself a Democrat, already. They would quickly devour him for the few hawkish thoughts he still has, instead of giving him the benefit of every doubt the way we have for all these years.
Sarila commented:
I am so dissapointed about McCain….. HE IS SO WEAK!!!!….
even when he was campagining in 2008, he was so weak … I don’t know why he wished to be a candidate to the presidency when he looked so weak,……………. but anyhow, I voted for him because I thought he was the lesser of 2 evils……
Now, I AM SO DISSAPOINTED WITH McCAIN…… HE WILL FOREVER BE A “WEAK” MAN AND A “WEAK” SENATOR…… he should retire soon…..
chuck in st paul commented:
Just think, this butt biscuit could have been President. I’ll grant you he’d be a tad better than Obumbles, but not by much.
If the damn GOP puts up another McLame in 2012 I’m going to actively work for the Constitution Party and against the Ruling Class.
tommy mc donnell commented:
john mc cain is morphing into arlen specter.
Thingamajig commented:
McCain’s is a Vichy Republican, alright, and the worst kind: wrapped in the flag..he’s placed himself at the tail end of the Prog-D-Rhino human grub, where he sucks up Zero’s work in exchange for selling out all dignity.
tommy mc donnell commented:
i think john mc cain has the same opinion of politicans as father flanagan had of boys. there is no such thing as a bad ploitican.
Blacque Jacques Shellacque commented:
Enjoy him, Arizona.
After all, YOU voted to return him to Washington.
Molon Lobe commented:
What do you expect from a man who dumped his wife for a rich bitch? McCain was and is a spoiled child who never grew up.
donh commented:
John McCain knows ” enhanced interrogation ” works because the Viet Cong broke him and got valuable information out of Johnny that lead to the death of our own troops during the Vietnam War. This is the guilt of all guilt that Johnny can never live down in his own bankrupt conscience. Johnny has no choice but to beat down hard interrogations as an effective tool of war no matter how many American lives are put at risk because that is what kapos do to live within their own skin.
Jackie commented:
The old fool needs to take that trashy daughter of his and ride into the sunset.
D Paul commented:
“Please Joe, say it ain’t so” is what the little boy asked Shoeless Joe Jackson about taking money to throw the World Series. There is great respect for John McCain and his five and one half years as a tortured POW. However, he has to continue the fight. It appears that his spirit was broken and that his collaboration under torture has left grave guilt feelings for which he continues to seek forgiveness. Get it out of your head, John McCain, “fatigue makes cowards of us all” according to Vinnie L. Get your head up and continue the fight. Semper Fi.
Iconoclast commented:
Juan McAmnesty lied to my face during the 2000 NH Primary campaign. When he took the 2008 nomination, I planned to vote 3rd Party, but after the choice of Sarah Palin for VP voted GOP in the hope this egotistical bozo would croak from the stress of the office. I’d not have been the least perturbed if a meteorite had dropped on he & Øshama at the beginning of any of the debates. Still wouldn’t mourn either.
TammyChicago commented:
Oh those McCains………. proving again they are as predicatable and as fun as a yeast infection.
sablegsd commented:
That decrepit old RINO has worn out the good will generated by his military service.
Retire already, we don’t want you in the government anymore.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
Re: Calling or writing McCain to tell him to resign.
Screw that. Call or write the RNC and tell them to disown him, to excommunicate him, to publicly declare him (and about two dozen other [biggest quote marks ever]Republicans[biggest quote marks ever]) to be No Longer Republicans.
The “tent” is obviously too big. Does the RNC have standards, or not?
Jim Dandy commented:
Jim you decided NOT to post my first set of comments, perhaps due to your sensitivity to being called out for criticizing McCain for being uncomfortable about torturing people. Or it might have been the 4 letter words.
Ok fine. Let’s see if the 2nd set makes it in here. He served, you didn’t. He was taken captive, you weren’t. He was TORTURED for YEARS. Lemme guess…you were not.
He is not only entitled to his opinion, but he is entitled to not be insulted by the likes of you. Notice I didn’t say you can’t express your views? I just said STFU on this topic and move on.
“Awful”…”terrible”…”horrible”…save that for the next case of vaginitis.