Good Grief… Now the CIA Admits There Was “No Live Video Feed” During Osama Raid

Good Grief…
The head of the CIA admitted yesterday that there was no live video footage of the raid on Osama bin Laden’s compound as further doubts emerged about the US version of events.

Then what were they watching?… A blank screen?
The White House released this photo of the security team watching the raid on the Osama compound in Abbottabad. Now we know the feed was not working.

(White House website)


The Telegraph
reported:

Leon Panetta, director of the CIA, revealed there was a 25 minute blackout during which the live feed from cameras mounted on the helmets of the US special forces was cut off.

A photograph released by the White House appeared to show the President and his aides in the situation room watching the action as it unfolded. In fact they had little knowledge of what was happening in the compound.

Mr Panetta said: “Once those teams went into the compound I can tell you that there was a time period of almost 20 or 25 minutes where we really didn’t know just exactly what was going on. And there were some very tense moments as we were waiting for information.

Hat Tip Gini

Unbelievable. What incompetence!
Via Melissa ClouthierThe Bookworm Room is tracking the bumblings of this administration following the Sunday’s brilliant military operation.

Usually when governments use misinformation, they use it to make themselves look good.  The Obama Administration gets points for originality, insofar as it’s been using disinformation and misinformation to make itself look arbitrary, unlawful, helpless and stupid.  Here’s jj’s great summary:

Okay, what do we have here:

1) There was a firefight.
2) There was no firefight.
3) Bin Laden was “resisting.”
4) Bin Laden wasn’t armed.  (Makes the concept of “resisting” interesting.)
[4.a) And the newest one: the SEALS thought bin Laden was reaching for a weapon.]
5) He used his wife as a shield.
6) His wife was killed too.
7) He didn’t use his wife as a shield.  She ran at a SEAL who shot her in the leg, but she’s fine.
8 ) Some other woman — the maid? — was used as a shield.  By somebody.  Downstairs.
9) That other woman — downstairs — was killed.
10) Maybe not.  She was killed unless she wasn’t — and who was she, anyway?
11) Bin Laden’s son was killed.
12) Unless it was some other guy.
13) Bin Laden’s daughter saw him get killed.  She’s undoubtedly traumatized, poor dear.
14) They were going to capture Bin Laden until the problem with the helicopter, which was:

A) It had mechanical trouble
B) It did a hard landing
C) It crashed
D) It clipped a wall with a tail rotor, effectively a crash

15.) They were never going to try to capture him; it was always a kill mission.
16.) No, it wasn’t.

The Bookwork Room has 26 items listed.
This will make 27.

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  • KR

    Well, obviously they were watching Trump’s Apprentice.

  • Granny

    I would suggest that what we have here is a darned good case of “He was for it before he was against it.”

    There WAS video feed – until OBL’s daughter stated that her father was in custody of the Seals and then they killed him. Now it is inconvenient for there to be video feed. Whatever happened, nobody knows nuthin – except those Seals, who are the ones to blame.

  • Joanne

    E-gads!

  • olm

    WTF?
    I really couldn’t believe they could possibly look any more incompetent.
    Wrong again.
    Obama really should just try the truth for once although no one would believe it.
    Granny, Obama is your alinsky.

  • donh

    They were watching Valerie Jarred do an impromptu strip tease. She has gotten very desparate for attention lately.

  • Lee

    Do you suppose Ms. Bin Laden might just possibly have a little self interest and revenge in mind? I wouldn’t trust her farther than I could fly.

  • wow

    Keystone Cops revisited. They should at least have concocted a plausible story with everyone on the same page. Juvenile! I’d love for the Seals to talk.

  • timwi

    This is off topic- but for those interested in the WI supreme court recount Kloppenburg just forced the votes of CLOISTERED NUNS to be thrown out. I wonder how she’ll like rotting in hell?

  • http://heresysubject.com Josh

    We did see it……….. err maybe we didn’t.

    Osama used a woman as a human shield…. err maybe he didn’t.

    Osama fought and resisted in the gun battle…. err maybe not…. he didn’t have a gun.

    The helicopter experienced failure and the Seals had to blow it up….. err maybe an rpg hit it according to Pakistanis…. err umm maybe both but we won’t say.

    The pictures will be released…………. err umm maybe not.

    What the crap is going on?? Another red herring to keep our minds distracted away from the economy, gas prices, Obamacare, and who knows what else on May 15th??

  • wow

    #8 May 4, 2011 at 8:11 pm
    timwi commented:

    How did she manage that? Just because they’re cloistered doesn’t mean they don’t have the right to vote.

  • http://biggovernment commonman

    what was they watching a blank screen

  • rbosque

    Nothing coming out of the WH is the truth, they’re just ensnaring themselves in their own BS.

  • Steve

    Maybe they were watching an instructional video of Saul Alinski’s Rules for Radicals.

  • Granny

    #6 May 4, 2011 at 8:10 pm
    Lee commented:

    Do you suppose Ms. Bin Laden might just possibly have a little self interest and revenge in mind? I wouldn’t trust her farther than I could fly.
    _________

    She might have a little self interest and revenge in mind, but a 12 year old girl can hardly be said to compete with the political self interest of the Obama regime in this particular matter. And do note that OBL’s young daughter has told just one version of the event, unlike the ever-changing fairy tale IWonWTF and his minions would have us believe. As far as I’m concerned, she is at the very least every bit as trustworthy as the Obama administration.

  • bg

    ++

    i believe that is happens all the time, blackouts that is..

    ==

  • tarpon

    You know what panicked the President don’t you? The Pakistan newspapers with the jumbo letters “Obama killed Osama” … And that was the folly of the speech Sunday night.

  • bg

    ++

    dang!!

    re: #15

    that is SOMETHING THAT happens, etc..

    ==

  • Fu#kObama

    Obama bin Lyin sure has a problem with veracity! What is he now trying to cover up?

  • mikeSilver

    Sheesh! These gals got their panty-hoes in such a knot, their eyeballs are falling out.

    I wish they just bite the bullet and say ” Yeh, we ordered him killed and it makes us happy that his family witnessed it, just like our nation witnessed 9/11. No more will we stand around and let diplomats do our talking. We got the SEALs phone number and we’re going to call them again. When you see them …. be sure to smile for the flash.”

  • serfer1962

    They were watching the may Day Parade…

  • Joanne

    Now we know why Obama looks so mad, “You interrupted my golf game for this!”

  • Florida Girl

    What NBA team was playing? Maybe it was the one he said would win the championship and he was watching them lose.

  • wanumba

    #12 May 4, 2011 at 8:13 pm
    rbosque commented:
    Nothing coming out of the WH is the truth, they’re just ensnaring themselves in their own BS.
    ……………….

    ditto.
    LOOK at the cast of sterling characters crowded in that space, staring at … who knows what. Hillary “Rose Law Firm Billing Records” Clinton, Joe “Plagerized my autobiography” Biden, Barack”You will not lose your doctor” Obama … they are habitual LIARS and we are all being TOLD to take their WORD for this! NO QUESTIONS!!
    Based on WHAT history of credibility for ANY of THEM? Is there even ONE in that room who can get till noon on any given day without lying?

    Anyone consider that pix is of them being presented with the powerpoint of the 2012 election poll projections?

  • timwi

    Wow- apparently the absentee ballots were dropped off and picked up as they always were but the Kloppenburg lawyers said since there was no witness signature they were throwing the votes out. The Journal Sentinel has the article.

  • http://heresysubject.com Josh

    From the picture above, I would say that Hillary’s expression is the way it is because the American Idol that she was pulling for missed a high note in the finals. Just like they mis spoke about the facts of the raid, the photographer broke out the memoirs from one of those slow nights at the White House where it was either Dancing with the Stars, Jersey Shore, or American Idol to help them make ‘wise’ decisions regarding our current foreign policy.

    The reporter somehow gave the press the wrong picture. He wanted to reveal the real pictures of the situation room, but this too was censored by the Obama administration since he felt it would be offensive to the current contestants on American Idol. Obama says that the release of the photos portrays Hillary as favoring one idol over another. Her expression may make some idols feel less equal than others, thus resulting in a national crisis, equal to Armaggeddon.

  • Fu#kObama

    This news story is going to play for weeks. Now the big question, what is Obama bin Lyin doing while all focus is on this story?

    I think Obama bin Lyin has something very nefarious going on and he wants the focus of America on this while he tries to sneak through something he knows that America would asolutely hate, say, new job killing regulations or new fees or taxes? Perhaps something to further erode our national security or more restrictions on our freedoms and liberty in the name of ‘fairness’.

    Never trust Lyin muslims especially the one in the White House.

  • http://saucyusa.blogspot.com Lisa G in NZ

    they were watching, the royal wedding honeymoon? american idol recap? local farm report? funniest home videos?

    what, in this “administration” is “real” anyway?

    seems not much

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  • Chisum

    Food Network

    “Cooking Halal”

  • olm

    #26, imo it is Holder being questioned about gunrunner.

  • Chisum

    olm,

    Good point! They know their turn is coming.

  • Tom

    Obviously, a severe series of missteps by the OBlumbler reelection team; they forgot the simplest of rules…get everyone on the same script.

    Proof positive this whole operation was nothing more than a political stunt to rescue Obama’s tanking poll numbers and shore up his failed, incompetent and utterly embarassing foriegn policy record.

    Unfortunately, the MSM will cover for him and most of America will believe whatever spews forth from this miserable regime and its media handlers.

  • Chisum

    But..but…but I thought that Team Obama were experts at controlling the message.

  • bg

    ++

    re: Josh #9

    It’s all clear now..

    Granny et al, this really helps clear up the time discrepancy..

    ==

  • Mahdi Al-Dajjal

    That’s NOT a picture of them watching the SEAL team. Nope! Their watching election returns coming in last November.

  • bg

    ++

    hmmm, what’s that saying about cover-ups??

    ==

  • http://none tommy mc donnell

    obama looks like he’d rather be golfing.

  • Granny

    #34 May 4, 2011 at 8:42 pm
    bg commented:

    re: Josh #9

    It’s all clear now..

    Granny et al, this really helps clear up the time discrepancy..

    _____

    According to my painstaking calculations BG, it adds more monkey wrenches and in fact indicates that the event took place approximately 6 hours after the announcement was made by Obama that OBL was dead :(

  • BurmaShave

    After the hub bub about “the pictures” of dead Osama dies down, there will be an outcry for the release of the video. I suspect that the absence live video — just “discovered” today! for [email protected] sake — is a story that the administration cooked up to deflect requests for the release of the video, which, as usual, the the most anti-transparent administration in history does not want to release because someone might be offended.

  • annie p

    If Panetta said this, it’s because he is mad that he said the pics of dead Osama would be released, then got overruled by the boy President.

  • lethargic

    It could only be more ironic if it had been 18 minutes.

  • Granny

    #41 May 4, 2011 at 9:00 pm
    lethargic commented:

    It could only be more ironic if it had been 18 minutes.
    ______

    Missing minutes on the Nixon tapes?

  • wtd

    whoever took those photos knows what was and wasn’t on the screen . . .just sayin.

  • bg

    ++

    OT re: timwi #8

    here you go..

    thanks, you’re welcome, and no thanks in return necessary.. 😉

    ==

  • Granny

    #43 May 4, 2011 at 9:02 pm
    wtd commented:

    whoever took those photos knows what was and wasn’t on the screen . . .just sayin.
    _______

    It is kind of funny that it is the Air Force General sitting in the Commander’s chair at the head of the table while “little timmy” the “president” in training pants sits on a stool at his knee.

  • http://none tommy mc donnell

    this is what happens when you elect an inexperienced, incompetent, completely unaccomplished know it all as president. then allow him to have an adminstration of people as inexperienced, incompetent, and unaccomplished as he is. thank you democratic party.

  • L.E. Liesner

    This administration makes a Chinese fire drill look like it’s organized. None of them are on the same page, hell they ain’t even reading the same book.

  • Muffin

    No. This is that part in the Wizard of Oz where the green-faced very scary witch says, “I’ll get you my pretty!” Hillary’s expression is the dead giveaway. Slackers. They’re always in there watching re-runs and that explains A LOT.

  • Bill Mitchell

    Does it seem to anyone else that Panetta has completely gone off the reservation here? Perhaps because he is pissed at Obama for dithering on this so long forcing Panetta to take charge? So far Panetta has told us that waterboarding works, the pictures WILL be released and there is no video.

    Wow.

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  • bg

    ++

    Granny #38

    don’t see it, the pix timing and the film clip are hours apart.. as far as i’m
    concerned one (stills) has absolutely nothing to do with the other (film)..

    there is no instant gratifacation to be had Granny.. albeit they failed
    miserably, they had to get their ducks in row.. however, that doesn’t
    mean the op didn’t go down as stated at the other end far from the
    maddening WH crowd.. what it does do, however, is highlight the fact
    that Obama chose to make the announcement just in time to interrupt
    Trumps show..

    ==

  • Granny

    #49 May 4, 2011 at 9:17 pm
    Bill Mitchell commented:

    Does it seem to anyone else that Panetta has completely gone off the reservation here? Perhaps because he is pissed at Obama for dithering on this so long forcing Panetta to take charge? So far Panetta has told us that waterboarding works, the pictures WILL be released and there is no video.

    Wow.
    _____________

    I seem to recall hearing something a couple of weeks ago about Panetta going to be the new man in charge over at the Pentagon and Petraeus taking Panetta’s job. Maybe only part of that is true and Panetta is doing what he can while he can.

  • gus

    The problem is these fukkups don’t know they are fukkups. How could they look anymore amateur???
    This is scary. No one is in control. The weakest among them is the boss.

  • redlite

    Thank God that the Seals ran the actual OP. If it was micro managed by this Keystone cop administration it would have really gotten fubared. This bunch of fools can’t even get their cover story straight. How can we believe Barry anymore? he needs to lay out the real story once and for all to hear.

  • Granny

    #51 May 4, 2011 at 9:18 pm
    bg commented:

    ++

    Granny #38

    don’t see it, the pix timing and the film clip are hours apart.. as far as i’m
    concerned one (stills) has absolutely nothing to do with the other (film)..

    there is no instant gratifacation to be had Granny.. albeit they failed
    miserably, they had to get their ducks in row.. however, that doesn’t
    mean the op didn’t go down as stated at the other end far from the
    maddening WH crowd.. what it does do, however, is highlight the fact
    that Obama chose to make the announcement just in time to interrupt
    Trumps show..

    ==

    Did you see a time stamp on the video BG? I didn’t. I calculated like this –

    the Reuter’s pics were taken at 2:30 on May 2, at Obama’s compound about 25 miles from Islamabad, which is 9 hours ahead of me here on the US East Coast – same time zone as DC.

    The REuter’s pics were said to have been taken about an hour after the Seals left. Make it a 10 hour difference.

    Now, if those pics were taken at 2:30 in the morning, then it would have been 4:30 or so in the afternoon on May 1 here on the US East Coast, which includes DC. The announcement was made at about 10:30 PM on May 1 – about 6 hours later. (That’s a pretty tight time frame for DNA ID & burial at sea.)

    However, several of the Reuters pics are exterior shots of the Obama compound – and they are daylight shots. In that case, using the same 2:30 you get that the event took place at about 4:30 in the morning on May 2 – about 6 hours after the announcement. LOL.

    See what I mean about monkey wrenches?

  • Chisum

    Gus,

    Talk about f***-ups:

    USA to Pakistan: “GIVE US OUR HELICOPTER BACK…WE DON’T WANT THE CHINESE TO GET IT”

    http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/usa-to-pakistan-give-us-our-helicopter-back-we-dont-want-the-chinese-to-get-it/

  • wanumba

    Dang. Forgot to add the truth-impaired Valerie Plame CIA as a *trustworthy,* *non-partisan source.*
    They couldn’t prove Bin Laden was alive for the past ten years, now we have a decade ahead of them failing to prove he’s dead.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    Will everyone please pray, to the LORD, for Obama?

    Please, when praying, keep Psalm 108:9 (and following) in mind.

    Thank you.

    Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few; and let another take his office.

    9 Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.

    10 Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places.

    11 Let the extortioner catch all that he hath; and let the strangers spoil his labour.

    12 Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to favour his fatherless children.

    13 Let his posterity be cut off; and in the generation following let their name be blotted out.

    14 Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the LORD; and let not the sin of his mother be blotted out.

    15 Let them be before the LORD continually, that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth.

    We must always pray to God regarding our “leaders”.

    I cannot think of a better way than expressed in Psalm 109.

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%20109&version=KJV

  • Taqiyyotomist

    Psalm 109:8, that is.

  • Granny

    #57 May 4, 2011 at 9:33 pm
    wanumba commented:

    Dang. Forgot to add the truth-impaired Valerie Plame CIA as a *trustworthy,* *non-partisan source.*
    They couldn’t prove Bin Laden was alive for the past ten years, now we have a decade ahead of them failing to prove he’s dead.
    __________

    This one’s going to be the new JFK Assassination, death of Hitler and Whatever Happened to the Amber Room. Nobody will be able to definitively prove what happened or that he is dead for a half a century or more.

  • gus

    Redlite, this admin is undisciplined and they are constantly trying to puff themselves up. They bullship because they are liars.

  • darwin

    You forgot “the helicopter couldn’t get enough lift to take off because of the high walls.”

  • wanumba

    OH, for the timetable folks: How many miles is it from land-locked Islamabad to the “sea?” Start with the claimed Arabian Sea, but isn’t the Indian Ocean closer? Bet there wasn’t enough time in 24 hours to grab the body, fly it to a ship offshore hundreds of miles away (helicopter transfer?) do a burial service and heave ho! DNA testing, AND CONFIRMATION, too!!

    Don’t forget our crack media’s ignoble history of reporting the Afghanistan bombing raids being conducted from the *USS Diego Garcia.*

  • bg

    ++

    Bill Mitchell #49

    oh you have no idea, unfortunately, most of
    US didn’t, and probably still don’t.. *sigh*..

    CIA Had Secret Al Qaeda Plan

    ==

  • czekmark

    Behold the obfuscation of the most transparent administration evah.

  • shibumi

    I guess the question now is… was the US involved in Bin Laden’s death at all? I guess we were somehow connected, because there were helicopters, but the story is changing more than a badly written action film.

    So, what B actor will play Obama in the Hollywood extravaganza?

  • Granny

    #63 May 4, 2011 at 9:39 pm
    wanumba commented:

    OH, for the timetable folks: How many miles is it from land-locked Islamabad to the “sea?” Start with the claimed Arabian Sea, but isn’t the Indian Ocean closer? Bet there wasn’t enough time in 24 hours to grab the body, fly it to a ship offshore hundreds of miles away (helicopter transfer?) do a burial service and heave ho! DNA testing, AND CONFIRMATION, too!!

    Don’t forget our crack media’s ignoble history of reporting the Afghanistan bombing raids being conducted from the *USS Diego Garcia.*
    _________

    Except that it isn’t 24 hours for all of that Wanumba – best case scenario 7, including every second of flying time. Here’s a map to show where the Arabian Sea is in comparison to Pakistan –

  • Taqiyyotomist

    Apologies if too long:

    A very interesting column.. Be sure to Read the Poem at the end.

    Charley Reese’s final column for the Orlando Sentinel…He has been a journalist for 49 years.
    He is retiring and this is HIS LAST COLUMN.

    Be sure to read the Tax List at the end.

    This is about as clear and easy to understand as it can be. The article below is completely neutral, neither anti-republican or democrat. Charlie Reese, a retired reporter for the Orlando Sentinel, has hit the nail directly on the head, defining clearly who it is that in the final analysis must assume responsibility for the judgments made that impact each one of us every day. It’s a short but good read. Worth the time. Worth remembering!

    545 vs. 300,000,000 People -By Charlie Reese

    Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

    Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

    Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

    You and I don’t propose a federal budget. The President does.

    You and I don’t have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

    You and I don’t write the tax code, Congress does.

    You and I don’t set fiscal policy, Congress does.

    You and I don’t control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

    One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one President, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

    I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

    I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a President to do one cotton-picking thing. I don’t care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator’s responsibility to determine how he votes.

    Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

    What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The President can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

    The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? John Boehner. He is the leader of the majority party. He and fellow House members, not the President, can approve any budget they want. If the President vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

    It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted — by present facts — of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can’t think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

    If the tax code is unfair, it’s because they want it unfair.

    If the budget is in the red, it’s because they want it in the red.

    If the Army & Marines are in Iraq and Afghanistan it’s because they want them in Iraq and Afghanistan …

    If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it’s because they want it that way.

    There are no insoluble government problems.

    Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like “the economy,” “inflation,” or “politics” that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

    Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

    They, and they alone, have the power.

    They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

    Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees…

    We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

    Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.

    What you do with this article now that you have read it… is up to you.
    This might be funny if it weren’t so true.
    Be sure to read all the way to the end:

    Tax his land,
    Tax his bed,
    Tax the table,
    At which he’s fed.

    Tax his tractor,
    Tax his mule,
    Teach him taxes
    Are the rule.

    Tax his work,
    Tax his pay,
    He works for
    peanuts anyway!

    Tax his cow,
    Tax his goat,
    Tax his pants,
    Tax his coat.

    Tax his ties,
    Tax his shirt,
    Tax his work,
    Tax his dirt.

    Tax his tobacco,
    Tax his drink,
    Tax him if he
    Tries to think.

    Tax his cigars,
    Tax his beers,
    If he cries
    Tax his tears.

    Tax his car,
    Tax his gas,
    Find other ways
    To tax his ass.

    Tax all he has
    Then let him know
    That you won’t be done
    Till he has no dough.

    When he screams and hollers;
    Then tax him some more,
    Tax him till
    He’s good and sore.

    Then tax his coffin,
    Tax his grave,
    Tax the sod in
    Which he’s laid…

    Put these words
    Upon his tomb,
    ‘Taxes drove me
    to my doom…’

    When he’s gone,
    Do not relax,
    Its time to apply
    The inheritance tax.

    Accounts Receivable Tax
    Building Permit Tax
    CDL license Tax
    Cigarette Tax
    Corporate Income Tax
    Dog License Tax
    Excise Taxes
    Federal Income Tax
    Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
    Fishing License Tax
    Food License Tax
    Fuel Permit Tax
    Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
    Gross Receipts Tax
    Hunting License Tax
    Inheritance Tax
    Inventory Tax
    IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
    Liquor Tax
    Luxury Taxes
    Marriage License Tax
    Medicare Tax
    Personal Property Tax
    Property Tax
    Real Estate Tax
    Service Charge Tax
    Social Security Tax
    Road Usage Tax
    Recreational Vehicle Tax
    Sales Tax
    School Tax
    State Income Tax
    State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
    Telephone Federal Excise Tax
    Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
    Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
    Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
    Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges Tax
    Telephone State and Local Tax
    Telephone Usage Charge Tax
    Utility Taxes
    Vehicle License Registration Tax
    Vehicle Sales Tax
    Watercraft Registration Tax
    Well Permit Tax
    Workers Compensation Tax

    STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?
    Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
    We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

    What in the heck happened? Can you spell ‘politicians?’

    I hope this goes around THE USA at least 545 times!!! YOU can help it get there!!!
    ——

    An Email I just received.

  • bg

    ++

    re: #64

    direct link..

    [A secret Central Intelligence Agency initiative terminated by Director Leon Panetta was an attempt to carry out a 2001 presidential authorization to capture or kill al Qaeda operatives, according to former intelligence officials familiar with the matter.]

    ==

  • Granny

    RE # 67

    Wanumba, re your question how many miles to the sea, it is 1490 kilometers to Karachi, which is on the ocean, so about 925 miles. Plus however many miles from there to the ship.

  • DomesticGoddess

    Wow – there should be a contest for the best caption! Was it the Obama dog giving birth? The photoshopping of the birth certificate? A sex tape of Bill Clinton? So many possibilities.

  • Joanne

    I finally figured it out – they are watching Osama’s funeral at sea. No wonder Hillary looks shocked and Obama mad – isn’t a burial at sea ……like waterboarding, but without getting any information.

  • Granny

    RE #70 –

    Can’t find any exact speed figures for the specific helicopters involved, but they are low speed aircraft, with at least one source citing 249 mph as a speed record. Call it 4 hours flight time.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    There are some ridiculously funny photoshops of that pic here:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2715208/posts

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  • Taqiyyotomist

    Oh, some even funnier photoshops of that pic here:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2715007/posts

  • wow

    #68 May 4, 2011 at 9:45 pm
    Taqiyyotomist commented:

    It was excellent, but I would hesitate to call it completely neutral. Go back and look at the only person named in the article and the context in which the person’s name is used. He could have left it out and the article would have been just as good without a little swipe and praise in that line.

  • gus

    MamaLion, I made a joke on another blog. I said jokingly a week ago, that I wasn’t interested in the BIRTH CERTIFICATE, I was more interested in a DEATH CERTIFICATE.
    I was called an A$$HOLE and BANNED IMMEDIATELY. Then threatened, that if I posted one more word ,I’d be reported to the SECRET SERVICE. I wasn’t threatening, I was joking, nobody would be confused between the two. But the well known blog owner immediately banned me and threatened me. I saw no reason to respond or argue. If that’s how the hot head feels. I’m gone.
    Keep that in mind Mama.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    #78 wow

    I didn’t say he was a neutral writer….that was in the email I received as well.

    And, you gotta realize, this is a newspaper columnist we’re talking about — if not for that swipe at Boenher, the column would likely have been rejected by the newspaper, and nobody would have ever seen it. The author probably realized that.

  • Obama’s an abject miserable failure

    Q- Then what were they watching?… A blank screen?

    A- Slick Willie’s home-made porn

  • bg
  • http://shelfreliancedenver.com/team/katy/ katy

    And they wonder why there’s “birthers”….

    Lying always leads to more lying….just to fix the last one…and so on.

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  • wow

    #80 May 4, 2011 at 10:12 pm
    Taqiyyotomist commented:

    O.K. a little “columnist’s license” or perhaps conformity. Sorry about that, I thought you had written that it was neutral. Other than that one point… the rest is very good.

  • bg
  • olm

    What time was the guy twittering?
    Wouldn’t that help your timeline?

  • Taqiyyotomist

    #77 Yeah, I wouldn’t joke like that either. Not with this administration. When GWB was in office, death-wish fantasies were a dime-a-dozen, because the libs knew that their supposed “Hitler” was anything but, and they they could even camp out in a ditch at his ranch and call him a rapacious murdering demon for years on end, with absolutely no repercussions….that they could make award-winning movies about the assassination of Bush with not a peep from the administration….that they could post death-threats and death-wishes from the first to the last comment of any thread containing the names Bush, Cheney, Rush, Condoleeza, Rumsfeld, or Ashcroft.

    We live in a MUCH different USA now, MamaLion. This admin will come down on you for these types of statements, in ways you might only be able to imagine after having studied the histories of Germany’s Third Reich or Stalin’s USSR.

    This is not a stretch. Godwin can go screw himself with a 60′ concrete phallus, no lube.

    This administration and the Democrats in general are soon to show signs of desperation. You should be careful with the publicly-stated death-wishes.

    (I admit that I have expressed my prayers for well-timed and well-aimed lightning-strikes — or even meteorite-falls, or, say, Looney-toons-like random pianos falling from the clear blue sky — in the Rose Garden during a rare press conference….so I know how you feel. )

    But we’re dealing with PURE EVIL here, a type which the Cindy Sheehans and KosKids and Huffers of the Bush Admin only projected onto their targets, to justify their abject hatred for all that was non-Democrat, non-Communist, and non-Satan-Spawned.

    You might want to keep those assassination anecdotes to yourself. Just sayin’.

  • bigmike

    I would think it would take 6 hours to go 1000 miles, with a fully loaded chopper, and maybe 1 air-refuel. I would suspect that what they were supposed to be watching was a low light or IR image from a satellite, if the team had helmet cams, they would feed to the team leader and 2 or 3 others ONLY, otherwise you would have the situation of having THE ENTIRE FREAKING NATIONAL COMMAND AUTHORITY UP YOUR ASS, instead of having your attention on doing the mission. If I was a SEAL TEAM member, I would refuse to do the mission if there was the possibility of having THE PRESIDENT OF THE FREAKING UNITED STATES start talking to me while I was trying to KILL OSAMA BIN LADEN. Just my opinion.

  • bg
  • gus

    TAQ. My brother was Dr Condoleeza Rice’s Bodyguard and on her detail. After she left office, he was with her every single day and was her personal chauffeur and bodyguard. He would have had to have taken a bullet for her. I was in NO WAY suggesting ANYONE ASSASSINATE Mr Obama. I was making a joke about CERTIFICATES. I did not suggest Mr.Obama be harmed. I was making the BIRTH-DEATH connection. Poor taste?? MAYBE. THREAT OF ANY KIND???? Who THE F@#$ would be that stupid?

  • AuntieMadder

    #26 May 4, 2011 at 8:26 pm
    Fu#kObama commented: “This news story is going to play for weeks. Now the big question, what is Obama bin Lyin doing while all focus is on this story?”

    I’m wondering the same thing.

  • sandy

    At least when a Republican sets up a mission to kill somebody they don’t have all this guilt and anxt afterwords.

  • wow

    #74 May 4, 2011 at 9:58 pm
    Taqiyyotomist commented:

    Those links were great and provided much needed laughter.

  • sandy

    Rush said today he knows Osama is dead only he’s not sure Osama died on Friday night. Are we all ready to become deathers?

  • http://none tommy mc donnell

    #68…that post should be sent to the 545 people he was writing about.

  • gus

    It’s not guilt and angst Sandy. It’s political calculation, and it’s a clear inability to make decisions when at a critical juncture. Obama was weighing how this would PLAY in the American media. He also had to weigh how his past statements would come back to haunt him. Lastly, his ideology is constantly being proven to be nonsense, and as a LIBTARD, he cannot understand how to transition to the realities of governing vs his boyish nonsensical wishful thinking.
    He’s not a man.

  • heyitsmekelly

    OOOHHHH I’m gonna have an Obamagasm !!! OOOHHHH Yes I Can…. Yes I Can …….OOOHHH …….Yes I Can………. OOO….OOOOO…….OOOOHHHH YEEEESSSSS !!! FOUR MORE YEARS FOUR MORE YEARS FOUR MORE YEARS !!! Obama Obama Obama Mmm Mmm Mmmmmm !!!

  • Taqiyyotomist

    #90 gus

    I was actually replying to a comment by “MamaLion” which seems to have been deleted.

    I wish Jim’s blog-engine would just keep the normal numbering of the thread, and just say “Deleted” under the commenter’s name. Unfortunately, when Jim deletes a comment, all the succeeding comments get renumbered minus one, which leads to confusion when people reference posts which get deleted.

    (we cool) :)

  • Taqiyyotomist

    #97 heyitsmekelly

    ROTFLOL!

    Mmm Mmm Mmmmmm, indeed!

  • bigmike

    Hey GUS, Yeah that blog has slipped some since the boss left, it’s a lot more moderate now in the last year or so, I suspect a rather surprising number of Journalistas post as trolls on a regular basis and almost NO BANNING HAPPENS, now.

  • gus

    TAQ, I knew you were responding to MamaLion, I just wanted to pass on a bit of context.
    We are cool my friend.

  • Mary Anne

    You’re actually surprised foreign, hostile, Jewish Occupied Government is lying to you?!!!

  • Taqiyyotomist

    Hey, Gus, I’m still praying for lightning and/or meteors, daily.

    When God himself does it, it can’t really be called “assassination”, can it? So, when I pray, I’m not really “inciting”, am I?

    Not a lawyer, so I’m not clear on the details about this.

    😀

  • gus

    Bigmike, I never caused ANY problem, I never was out of line, I had a number of posters that would always say hello if they saw me. I made a post that caught the Blog dudes’ eye when he was on the rag and POOOOOF. I’m an a$$hole and a national threat. I eat people like that for lunch in an open exchange of idea’s. But….it’s his HOUSE.

  • Sparky

    At best we know that OBL may be dead.

    At worst, this may be the greatest ever political stunt.

    Trump’s next job – get the DNA results!

  • gus

    Taq. You could find a lawyer that says, wishing Opie a nice day is a threat. We are still in America.

  • me

    F-A-K-E. honestly, with all the secrecy oing on about what ACTUALLY took place during the raid (notice how every bit of info we have that didn’t come straight from Obama is from ANNONYMOUS sources bc everyone involved has not been authorized to speak publicly about it) you people really think the director of the CIA is running around giving comments to no name news websites like this? think for yourselves, don’t be sheeps and feed into all these conspiracy theories

  • http://www.truthandcommonsense.com archer52

    Guys, this is easy. Remember who you are dealing with- Progressive liberals who never want their hands to get dirty! Think, THINK this through. What did Obama order? a kill squad. What did he witness IF the feed were live during the kill squad…well doing its thing? Those liberal, no waterboarding, terrorist loving politicians would have had to admit at some point they actually saw the execution- which is a clear violation of their beloved international law.

    Cake and eat it too moment here. Yes, we did order it, but we did say if he gave up to take him into custody. We didn’t see the actual killing but were told he was armed, errr. reaching for a gun, errr. unarmed and begging. Oh heck, it wasn’t us that did it.

    Besides, all of this would have been spun differently if the thing went south. The people there with the troubled looks were the ones who were trying to figure out who he would blame.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    Mary Anne…

    Say what? If anything, our government is Muslim-occupied, and also Communist-occupied. Either-or, it’s doing what these ideologies do. Taqiyya on the one hand, Commie agitprop on the other. Both forms of demonic, Diabolic lying. Straight from their father in Hell.

    If Jews had “occupied” our government, we’d all be much better off, to understate it considerably.

    (GOD BLESS ISRAEL, GOD BLESS THE IDF!)

    You’ll see. In time.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    According to #107 “me”, Gateway Pundit is a “no name news site”, and we’re all just a bunch of sheep…

    Way to sway the crowd, “me”. LOL!

  • Taqiyyotomist

    Re: #107 “you people”

    RAAAAAAAACIST!!11

  • Bill Mitchell

    OT. Does anyone else notice what a complete sh*thole this part of the world is? No wonder these morons are willing to blow themselves up for a chance at 72 virgins in heaven. Their home is a dusty filthy easy-bake oven.

  • gus

    TAQ!!!!!! “””(GOD BLESS ISRAEL, GOD BLESS THE IDF!)””””

    Amen my brother. Amen.

  • http://none tommy mc donnell

    in re #68 that list doesn’t even start to list all the taxes we pay to the politicans. can anyone read that list and still think we are a free people. someone wrote on another website the right to the fruits of one’s labor is a civil right and its time we stopped the politicans from violating our civil rights.

  • bigmike

    Hey GUS, No worries, I remember you , I don’t post much anywhere but I browse lots ALL OVER. I see this administration bleeding support from all sides . They seem to be a bunch of evil Keystone Cops and more and more people are coming to see them that way.

  • Capn Angus

    Yet another ROSWELL conspiracy created by the Obama administration; which is always trying to be too clever by half…

    I’m really starting to believe bin-Laden maybe in a Black Sight & is being subjected to enhanced interrogation as we type. Naturally Obama can’t admit to it because he would disenfranchise his base permanently.

    In a couple of weeks, (just before Corsi’s book comes out), we’ll see the photo’s we won’t be able to verify any date or location but we’ll have the photo’s of a very dead Osama bin-Laden…

    Look these idiots all work for us it’s time we all demand the evidence… Call your Sen & Congressman…

    I’m hugely embarrassed that my Senator, (The Vapid Ken Doll), who replaced Fat Ted K was duped by the phony head shot that’s been circulating on the internet for years.

    Don’t buy the but it will inflame Muslim sensitivities either… I mean WTF is that? We’re the USA we do the A$$ Kicking & people fear us, not vice versa. This isn’t like spanking your kids you friggin libtards… We don’t apologize & behave in a “This is going to hurt me more than it’s going to hurt you manner”.

    I mean seriously, our Generations mantra might as well be

    “THE ONLY THING WE HAVE TO FEAR IS INFLAMING MUSLIM SENSITIVITIES!!!”

    It’s time we quit allowing our elected leaders to be such a bunch of wusses.

  • Buffalobob

    Just like the kids table at Thanksgiving dinner Obama sits in the little boys chair.

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  • uggy parfait

    Jim said it best, Good Grief.

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  • Granny

    #88 May 4, 2011 at 10:26 pm
    bigmike commented:

    I would think it would take 6 hours to go 1000 miles, with a fully loaded chopper, and maybe 1 air-refuel.

    __________

    Great. That leaves an hour to do the DNA and deepsix the corpse – which surely must be starting to stink by then.

  • donh

    Bill #49…the whole government is going Rouge…not just Panetta. Obama is such an incompetant President everyone is blowing him off and “doing what thou wilt” . This mission was to capture Bin Laden . You don’t train for 7 months to murder a man when a bomb will do. The team nullified the order and pulled the plug on the live feed so they could stick that vacume cleaner hose up Bin Laden’s A** , pull his beard, flaggelate and kill him. Anarchy and chaos are taking over this country and the world.

  • Granny

    #
    #122 May 4, 2011 at 11:26 pm
    donh commented:

    Bill #49…the whole government is going Rouge…not just Panetta. Obama is such an incompetant President everyone is blowing him off and “doing what thou wilt” . This mission was to capture Bin Laden . You don’t train for 7 months to murder a man when a bomb will do. The team nullified the order and pulled the plug on the live feed so they could stick that vacume cleaner hose up Bin Laden’s A** , pull his beard, flaggelate and kill him. Anarchy and chaos are taking over this country and the world.
    ____________

    You can hardly blame them Don. At the rate this regime sells out Special Ops and Border Patrol I’m rather surprised we have any left!

  • wanumba

    ……………………………………
    #85 May 4, 2011 at 10:19 pm
    bg commented:
    Granny & wanumba

    1194 kilometres (741.7 miles) is the
    distance between Karachi and Abbottabad
    …………………………………………….
    #70 May 4, 2011 at 9:53 pm
    Granny commented:
    RE # 67

    Wanumba, re your question how many miles to the sea, it is 1490 kilometers to Karachi, which is on the ocean, so about 925 miles. Plus however many miles from there to the ship.
    ……………………………………

    Heh. I did make a mistake – thinking that area was considered Indian Ocean, not Arabian Sea, but apart from that, the problem of logistics is the same…

    They used helicopters to haul the body out and flew the body to the Arabian Sea, 925 miles away. The helicopters would have needed to refuel somewhere OR land and transfer el body somewhere to planes …. but then that’s are a problem as the destination was a Navy ship offshore, so back to helicopters with limited ranges? And meanwhile DNA samples are being analyzed .. while the body is rushed off…and compared to …whose DNA, since no Bin Laden, Osama DNA was available?

    There truly aren’t enough hours in a 24/hr day to have accomplished what the Obama Administration is claiming.

    There is ONE scenario that harmonizes the photo of the WH Democrat mesmerized/appalled group stare WITH the cockamamie story lines and that’s the announcement that they shot up a household of Bin Ladens, but NO Osama. Oh SNAP!

  • midusdew

    When you tell the truth the story doesn’t change.

    I challenge the Opinko’s administration to tell the truth for at least 1 day this year.

    This is worse than Jim Carrey’s Movie: Liar Lair.

  • Granny

    #
    #124 May 4, 2011 at 11:35 pm
    wanumba commented:

    ……………………………………
    #85 May 4, 2011 at 10:19 pm
    bg commented:
    Granny & wanumba

    1194 kilometres (741.7 miles) is the
    distance between Karachi and Abbottabad
    …………………………………………….
    #70 May 4, 2011 at 9:53 pm
    Granny commented:
    RE # 67

    Wanumba, re your question how many miles to the sea, it is 1490 kilometers to Karachi, which is on the ocean, so about 925 miles. Plus however many miles from there to the ship.
    ……………………………………

    Heh. I did make a mistake – thinking that area was considered Indian Ocean, not Arabian Sea, but apart from that, the problem of logistics is the same…

    They used helicopters to haul the body out and flew the body to the Arabian Sea, 925 miles away. The helicopters would have needed to refuel somewhere OR land and transfer el body somewhere to planes …. but then that’s are a problem as the destination was a Navy ship offshore, so back to helicopters with limited ranges? And meanwhile DNA samples are being analyzed .. while the body is rushed off…and compared to …whose DNA, since no Bin Laden, Osama DNA was available?

    There truly aren’t enough hours in a 24/hr day to have accomplished what the Obama Administration is claiming.

    There is ONE scenario that harmonizes the photo of the WH Democrat mesmerized/appalled group stare WITH the cockamamie story lines and that’s the announcement that they shot up a household of Bin Ladens, but NO Osama. Oh SNAP!

    ______________

    Exactly. Further complicated by the fact that the now lone helicopter was overloaded with the entire crew & Seals from the downed chopper plus two dead bodies. (I still want to know what happened to the magically disappearing corpse of Osama Jr., who apparently didn’t warrant burial . . And then there is the problem of how you even get the blood sample for DNA testing tested on a flying helicopter. . .

  • bg

    ++

    me #107

    no names, really??

    [Q: What changed the president’s position and enabled
    the attack against Osama Bin Laden to proceed?

    A: Nothing changed with the president’s opinion – he continued to avoid having one. Every time military and intelligence officials appeared to make progress in forming a position, Jarrett would intervene and the stalling would begin again. Hillary started the ball really rolling as far as pressuring Obama began, but it was Panetta and Petraeus who ultimately pushed Obama to finally act – sort of. Panetta was receiving significant reports from both his direct CIA sources, as well as Petraeus-originating Intel. Petraeus was threatening to act on his own via a bombing attack. Panetta reported back to the president that a bombing of the compound would result in successful killing of Osama Bin Laden, and little risk to American lives. Again Obama hesitated – this time openly delaying further meetings to discuss the issue with Panetta. A brief meeting was held at this time with other officials, including Secretary Gates and members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but Gates, like Panetta, was unable to push the president to act. It was at this time that Gates indicated to certain Pentagon officials that he may resign earlier than originally indicated – he was that frustrated.]

    do you really believe “quoted” info and name droppings of
    such caliber would go unchallenged by the OA if not true??

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    Granny #126

    re: [magically disappearing corpse of Osama Jr.]

    i’ll bet you dollars to doughnuts THIS is Jr.!!

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    oh btw, Granny #126

    what do you mean “magically disappearing”, huh??

    he was most likely freakin’ buried..

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    Granny #126

    re: [They used helicopters to haul the body out and
    flew the body to the Arabian Sea, 925 miles away.]

    got a link??

    thanks in advance..

    ==

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  • Granny

    #128, 129 & 130 – BG

    By “magically disappearing” body of Osama Jr. I mean that reports state that the Seals flew out with 2 bodies – Osama and his son. We have been told that Osama was buried at sea. Other than that initial report that his son’s body was taken out, no mention is made of the disposal of the son’s corpse. It has “magically disappeared.” Why would they bury Sr. at sea and Jr. somewhere else?

    Re use of helicopters, that is what they went in with, so that is what they flew out. Initial reports placed those at 4. Revised reports all state 2, with one being shot down/crashing leaving one chopper to get both flight crews, all of the Seals, whatever they grabbed in the way of computers and the two dead bodies out.

    Reports of Bin Laden’s burial at sea state that he was buried from a US ship in the Arabian Sea, which was about 925 miles from the OBL compound. Per Bigmike, about 6 hours flight time requiring a refuel.

    All of this is just attempts to fit the story as given into the time available per the time stamp on the Reuter’s photos that you and I worked out earlier. As you can see, it doesn’t work.

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  • bigmike

    Hey GRANNY, I’m just guessing on the numbers. Here’s a thought, with the goods on 1 or 2 choppers some of the special operators could leave to some other destination, perhaps even minus gear on foot as a portion of special operators are foreign language proficent and SOME can pass as native in AF/PAK area, not like Vietnam or Somalia, and I don’t mean black, I mean body type and physical mannerisms.

  • bg

    ++

    btw Granny,

    believe ther was an approx 10 our stint between the killing & burial..

    going by the 9 vs 11 hour difference (or add 2 hours)

    (attack on compound)

    May 1st: apx: 3:30 pm US time + 9 hours = May 2nd: apx: 12:30 am Pak time

    (burial at sea)

    May 2nd: 1:10 am US time + 9 hours = May 2nd : 10:10 am Pak time

    (blood)

    shortly before 11 a.m. US time + 9 hrs = shortly before 8:00 pm Pak time

    SO CONFUSING, GAH!! unless they switched to Pak time for May
    2nd, someone aside from me may have goofed on the timeline..

    again, i stink at math, so any corrections would be welcome..

    ==

  • wanumba

    The WH made a mistake by invoking that they adhered to the 24 hour burial rule. Just examining the bare bones logistics casts doubt on the feasibility of what they claim.
    Without a body, it’s all heresay – the legal term for all this.

  • bg

    ++

    Granny #122..

    are you telling me they flew apx 210 miles from Karachi out to Sea??

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    Granny #3132

    i still need a link for Juniors body, i can’t seem to find one, thanks..

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    uhg, re: #138

    Granny #132

    going to bed.. 😀

    ==

  • bigmike

    Hey BG, Tight timing, I would not leave so little time to do DNA, maybe the son was the one they gave the sea burial to? Do the DNA at your leisure and dump OBL off the back of the carrier at midnite, who’s to know? HEH HEH HEH, in the finest muslim tradition!

  • jorgen

    No wonder socialist policies are always wrong; they can’t even get some simple facts right. The SEALs will have given a very precise and concise report and these socialists just adds a lorryful of lies on top of it.

    This supports my theory: when legislating socialists asks themselves: what would a decent and honest person want. And then they do the opposite.

  • Fran

    Sure there was…they just don’t want to share it with us slaves.

  • Little David Puddy

    They are actually watching the Capitals / Lightning Game.

  • Ozark Lee

    All I know is that there is some Navy Seal that will never buy a drink again in his life. We will never know who he is (and I don’t want to know) but they know exactly who got the kill shot.

    …Lee

  • jorgen

    Holder apparently at one time said that the SEALs acted in self-defense – even though nobody were armed! Obama’s people surely have a lively fantasy!

  • centra

    Believe any word that comes out of Obama’s mouth at your own risk.

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  • http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com Reaganite Republican

    What are they watching then, Cirque de Soleil?

  • nobama hater

    hey granny. what do you mean the seals are to blame.fk you,they were just doing their job.I WONT BELIEVE OSAMA IS DEAD UNTL I SEE FOOTAGE.how could they get his dna that quick. you’re lying again nobama.just cause you’re muslim they aint gonna keep you safe buddy!!! or maybe your in cahoots with them and you will be safe. but anyway my main message was to you granny. HOW DARE YOU SAY THE SEALS ARE TO BLAME.

  • nobama hater

    SO WHAT IF OSMAMA WAS UNARMED. WERE ANY OF THE PEOPLE HE KILLED ON 911 ARMED….NO. SO ARMED OR NOT I’M GLAD HE’S DEAD. THEY SHOULD HAVE SHOT THE WHOLE FAMILY.!!!!!!!!!!!!! I PRAY TO GOD THAT HE IS DEAD,BUT I DONOT BELEIVE THAT WAS HIS BODY AT THAT SEA BURIAL. IT WAS TOO SOON.AND TOO SOON FOR DNA TESTS, YOU DONT GET THEM IN A MATTER OF HOURS

  • flicka47

    I’ve been wondering about that “video feed” from the begining…Sounded too much to me like a Tom Clancy novel.And wouldn’t it have been more secure for the SEAL’s controller to call it in to the White House rather than send a live video out over the airwaves?

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  • callmeboudicca

    from the looks on their faces I think during the blackout someone plugged them into “The 700 Club” broadcast……heads are gonna ROLL for that one!!!!!!!!

  • mg4us

    Who is that little insignificant kid sitting to the right side of the general? Looks lost and dumb-founded. . .no just make that dumb-looking. . . . so Inept and Incompetent! This is what Inexperience does.

    And Hillary. She wanted to be President yet can’t stomach the scene. . .hmmmmm

    And Biden. . .he looks like he is awaiting an Amtrak train. . .that’s running late!

    God help America. . . this is the best we have to offer the world?. . . hope our allies see this and run.

    And the Chinese and Russians are laughing too!

  • Andreas K.

    We can sum this up as:

    Somebody did something to somebody else and something happened.

  • USMC Thomas

    SØBama looks like the guy that delivered the pizza and they let watch the final seconds of the game.

  • Granny

    #135 May 5, 2011 at 12:55 am
    bg commented:

    bg, the 11 hours from that website is incorrect. The time difference is 9 hours. As I explained somewhere north on the thread, I took the 1 hour after the incident the Reuter’s pics were said to have been taken and added it to 9 hours, which converts an incident at 2:30 pm Pak time to 4:30 am US east coast time (or 2:30 AM Pak time to 4:30 PM US East Coast time the day before. I then compared 4:30 pm May 1/4:30 am May 2 to the known time of the WH announcement (10:30 pm US East) to get a 7 hour window of opportunity for transport, DNA identification, muslim burial rites and deep-sixing the body.

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    #149 May 5, 2011 at 4:59 am
    nobama hater commented:

    hey granny. what do you mean the seals are to blame.fk you,they were just doing their job.

    _________

    nobama, I did not say that the Seals were to blame. I said that manure rolls downhill and the Seals are being set up to take the fall for the three-ring circus.

  • save us

    Is there anything about obama and the obama administration that isn’t a lie?

  • ferd

    I just get the feeling that the misinformation is on purpsoe. They’re getting kudos from the press and all the contradictions are being released to generate cause for a variety of conspiracy theories. That way they deflect scrutiny on the economy and the right sounds bitter and insane. It also keeps the entire “I got him, Bush didn’t” stiryline active for the next two years.

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  • Gimme a Break

    They’re certainly not watching the Cartoon Channel – Biden looks bored.

  • squeaky

    “Seals are being set up to take the fall for the three-ring circus.” what i figure, if the wind changes. when it becomes fashionable to toss the Seals under the bus oblather will be there with his pointy finger and the “as i’ve always said”. in the situational room he looked like he was planning his escape route if he finds himself in the mix of negative reactions.

  • Gene Costa

    They are doing their best to ensure the Bin Laden is made into a martyr and inflame this whole muslim, christian debate. It is only their lies that are getting them all in trouble, we all remember our parents teaching us the virtues of not lieing, that we would always eventually get caught, they didn’t teach that in the marxist and facist groups that trained Obummer

  • donabernathy

    ONE FACT REMAINS…….

    you would think that with our big bad war on terror.. that capturing the head honcho….would provide invaluable intel………. yet capture was never a consideration…..WONDER WHY???????

    ROFLMAO

  • Recovering Conservative

    Um, the entire operation lasted about 45 minutes. The CIA is saying there was a blackout for roughly half of that time. Panetta didn’t say the entire operation was blacked out, just 25 minutes of it. Maybe the situation room photograph was taken as the one helicopter stalled and the people in the room looked justifiably concerned.

    You people really need to stop making things up to fit your narratives. Bottom line is: Obama got Osama and Bush didnt. Deal with it. Please.

  • Granny

    #165 –

    You do not have a single iota of anything that even approaches evidence by any definition that “Obama got Osama.”

    The people inventing things out of whole cloth are all located in the White House. The rest of us are just trying to make sense out of the ever-changing tall tales.

  • Bruce

    What are they watching? And why does Hillary look shocked?

    They’re watching Osama’s goat porn. But that’s not why Hillary is shocked.

    So why is Hillary shocked/
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    It’s stars Bill Clinton.

  • bobbi

    this is like the missing water-gate tapes. As Lame Cherry pointed out, this is a cover-up of a murder. the reason for dumping OBL’s body and not doing a forensic was to cover-up the marks on his wrist from the plastic handcuffs. also, Michael Savage pointed out, there’s a green water pistol behind the dead “guard’s” head,
    who are you going to believe a 12 yr old or Obama?

  • bobbi

    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2011/05/29-minute-gap.html

    you will see the water pistol in this picture

  • http://www.truthandcommonsense.com archer52

    In my opinion, this whole mess is due to Obama’s team trying to get in front of what was apparently already slipping out, so he could get the maximum exposure. They knew they had him, but no DNA yet. So what is there answer? Oh, yeah we have DNA confirmation (in a couple of days). If they say “we got him.” and the next logical question is asked- How do you know? Do you have DNA? the President goes “Uh, uh, not yet.” First thought we have is “What an idiot!” On and on. So the political unit wanting to get BO reelected goes into high gear.

    What do they do? They get a hold of key people and stage the crowd outside the White House, including the guy I saw on video at FOX with a two foot wide American Flag that had Obama’s face, surrounded by the Presidential seal, embossed on the red/white stripe area. No way that is an accident and frankly a little creepy Mao-like speaking.

    Then they put together the most perfect scenario- We’ve got the body, confirmed the DNA and managed to get it to a carrier where it was cleaned and dumped. Ta-da!!

    Unfortunately, political operatives can’t count or tell time. It wasn’t long before someone, like you and me, started ticking off the hours and counting back. I talked to a buddy of mine from the old days, no way DNA is confirmed in twelve hours, especially when your sample is in Pakistan attached to a shot up body. So that was a lie. Then we now find that the whole “capture or kill” command was a clear kill order. How to square that with our President getting a live feed from the helmets of the SOG unit? Oh, that’s right we had a black out.

    One democrat operative said the other day Obama would be a fool not to take advantage of the moment and bleed it out as long as possible. That is part of the photo/no photo stuff. What they don’t see is that we are happy the dirtbag is dead, but we just paid 4.00 for gas, can’t find work and things are going south in a hurry. Obama can ride this pony until to falls, but it won’t put people back to work or stabilize the oil speculations.

    Plus his ego is such he’ll overplay this and people will get turned off. Already I’m hearing, “Oh so HE did it did he? Y’know I’ll bet my paycheck he wasn’t the one wearing black greasepaint and sliding down a rope in the pitch black. Just saying…”

  • Jock Doubleday

    Osama bin dead since late 2001.

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  • http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/ DMartyr

    They are claiming there is no video so they won’t be pressured into releasing still frames.

    Post-Mortem pictures are too gruesome, but whats the stop pre-mortem images from being shown? Preemptively claim they don’t exist.

  • Interesting

    Wow commented he would love the SEALS to talk.
    The next thing they will walk back is that SEALS were involved at all.
    After all.. no one has actually HEARD from a SEAL.
    No one has interviewed one, or spoken to one.
    It is all a POLITICAL narrative, isn’t it?
    It is all hearsay, just like the photos being really of OBL.
    The American public is to take all this on faith.
    And really, who could say that this Administration hasn’t been transparent and truthful?
    They have such a stellar track record, for sure, no one need doubt.
    Truth is always the first casualty of war.
    The people will believe whatever they want to believe.
    It doesn’t matter to them if it is reality or no.
    Facts never get in the way of their belief.
    As this list shows, facts are pesky things which only confuse the issue.

  • Iconoclast

    While I remain a “birther” unconvinced by the electronic ‘birth certificate’ which purports to be from 1961 but lists Øbozo Senior’s race as “African,” I’m not going to be one of those who questions OBL’s death.

    That said, I’m sure there are some serious discrepancies between the story(ies) coming out of Ø’s crew and the facts / truth, for these congenital liars are stilling breathing. I find it especially nauseating & infuriating to see & hear this feckless coward preening in the publicity as if his role was of any real significance. The target was located by programs & efforts he opposed, eliminated by a military he disdains. His sole contribution was to delay 16 hours to find enough spine to allow the SEALs to do the mission. At least it didn’t interrupt his semiweekly golf game.

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  • Recovering Conservative

    @ #166

    Oh really? Who ordered the raid to kill OBL? George Bush? George Washington? William McKinley?

    And if you want to get into semantics, then fine. Barack Obama didn’t “get Osama” any more than George Bush “got” Saddam Hussein. The troops did it in both case. But Obama ordered the raid and nabbed OBL in the head. Whether it happened a week ago or on Sunday morning. Whether he was armed or unarmed. Does it really matter?

    If this was George Bush, you people would have no problem with the specifics.

    Notch a huge victory for Barack Obama. Enough said.

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  • http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/ DMartyr

    #177 – one big difference is attitude.

    When Bush got Saddam, he addressed the American people: “We got him!”

    When Obama addressed the America people about Osama, it was: “I directed… I determined… At MY direction…

    Bush has more integrity and humility in his pinky than Obama ever had. That is why we’d believe Bush quicker than Obama.

    BTW, it took Obama 16 hours to “order” the raid. 16 hours to say “yes” or “no” to taking out the worst terrorist in modern times. 16 hours for an AMERICAN President to decide whether or not to get justice for the AMERICAN people. Any true patriot would have taken only seconds – long enough to speak the words “it’s a go”.

    So, you shouldn’t be surprised when the American public doubts anything Obama does or says. I think Osama is dead, but I have to question Obama’s concern for “muslim sensibilities” over the concerns of the American people.

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  • Militant Conservative

    #177 May 5, 2011 at 12:37 pm
    Recovering Conservative commented:

    Your boy ordered an assasination, Bush handed over the bad guy for war crimes trial.

    Your boy is a progressive assasin, I’m O.K. with the target eliminated.

    Your weenie leftists have a great problem with it. Nice of Obama to use the intel gathered via the bush doctrine and then make sure no other president can use the same methods.

    Obama is a hypocrite at best and an affirmative action socialist destroyer of America.

    powder is dry

  • bg

    ++

    bottom line:

    no matter when or how the death of OBL
    occurred, no mater who ‘gave the order’..

    OBAMA CLAIMED IT – PERIOD

    ergo, he & he alone is responsible for any backlash..

    ==

  • bg182

    ++

    re: #182

    re: Recovering Conservative #177

    yes, i agree, however, that has absolutely nothing to do
    with delving into and revealing the truth of the matter..

    ==

  • bg182

    ++

    ps re: #182

    Obama not only claimed it, he owns it and all lies attached to the event..

    ==

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  • eaglewingz08

    How are all these contradictions, lies and misstatements supposed to give the world confidence about the truth of the operation against OBL? And without photo proof and independent verification of the corpse, the Administration’s lies and incompetence just drags down its credibililty.

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  • stinkdaddy

    Yeah, what a stunning display of incompetence. You can tell by how bin Laden didn’t get killed, and how more than zero American troops were hurt or injured.

    If you accept that there was no feed, we’re talking about a tech glitch. This satellite linkup is incompetent! This video camera is incompetent! These inanimate objects lack competency!

    If you deny that there was no feed, then there was none of the incompetence that you all are frothing about the mouth about.

    But hey, no sweat. If you guys pick enough nits then maybe some hole in the space-time continuum will open and Bush will have caught bin Laden instead. Back here in reality, we all know who did.

  • stinkdaddy

    Oh, and I see that you’ve concluded that Obama owns any screwups associated. Fair point, but he also owns any successes: namely being the President on whose watch bin Laden was killed.

    Obama will always be the guy who ordered the strike that killed bin Laden. Doesn’t matter how mad you get, how long you hold your breath and stomp your feet, and no matter how much you hate Obama, he will be the guy on whose watch bin Laden was killed from now until the end of time. Hell as a flaming stinky hippie liberal I don’t even like Obama that much, but watching you all gnash your teeth over this is priceless. Obama killed Osama. Deal with it.

    Your only recourse here is to disappear down some “Osama’s not dead!” rabbit hole, and I would hope even you Hoftoids are above that.

  • stinkdaddy

    #168 – So you’re saying that killing Osama bin Laden is a bad thing. I’ll note that down. What a strange new world this is becoming.

  • Militant Conservative

    #190 May 5, 2011 at 4:46 pm
    stinkdaddy commented:

    Obama ordered this assasination (which I’m OK with), to distract from his horrible domestic policies and actions. Yea yippie the affirmative action black guy killed a terrorist.

    Now then how is the economy and jobs??? Hmmmmmm

    Oh yes set a new record unemployment rate went up? how’d that happen with Mr WTF in charge.

    The master of disaster is not done. It’s going to get worse.

    powder is dry

  • wanumba

    #189 May 5, 2011 at 4:43 pm
    stinkdaddy commented:

    Your only recourse here is to disappear down some “Osama’s not dead!” rabbit hole, and I would hope even you Hoftoids are above that.
    ……..

    Worse than that. How does one kill someone who was killed by Bush’s offensives 10 years ago?
    Can’t produce a body, that’s for sure. Buy boy howdy, they are producing a passel of stories.

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  • Bob
  • Mark

    Pick a lie, any lie. More BS fed to the American public even more distasteful than who killed Kennedy

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  • Myself

    So the assault on the compound, not including the time it took to fly helicopters from Afghanistan there and back, took over 40 minutes. The video was down for 20-25 minutes. Am I missing something, or is your math off?

  • Tina McFarland

    Talk about a distraction? This whole “we killed Bin Laden” thing is a way to get our attention off what’s REALLY going on. Besides, he’s been dead for 10 years! Research it. There’s been several anouncements (9) that he’s been killed. I think we all should dig a little deeper and be cautious about what’s next.