US Forces Are Training & Arming Libyan Rebels (Video)
Posted by Jim Hoft on Saturday, April 2, 2011, 3:21 PM
The Obama Administration does not know exactly who the rebel leaders are in Libya… But that won’t stop them from training them and supplying them with arms.
Aljazeera reported:
Aljazeera reported:
US and Egyptian special forces have reportedly been offering covert armed training to rebel fighters in the battle for Libya, Al Jazeera has been told.
An unnamed rebel source related how he had undergone training in military techniques at a “secret facility” in eastern Libya.
He told our correspondent Laurence Lee reporting from the rebel-stronghold of Benghazi that he was sent to fire Katyusha rockets but was given a simple, unguided version of the rocket instead.
“He told us that on Thursday night a new shipment of Katyusha rockets had been sent into eastern Libya from Egypt. He didn’t say they were sourced from Egypt, but that was their route through.
“He said these were state-of-the-art, heat-seeking rockets and that they needed to be trained on how to use them, which was one of the things the American and Egyptian special forces were there to do.”
Obama must have forgotten to tell us this in his big speech on Libya earlier in the week.
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Granny commented:
Just exactly WHY are we training al Queda?
chuck in st paul commented:
Apparently Barry wants credit for creating a new mob of al Qaeda towelheads to come kill Americans later. Way to go Sir Golfsalot.
Tom in CA commented:
Vietnam – Part 2.
Obama’a revenge…..
patman commented:
This will haunt us…
Chris commented:
Maybe they can get the AFT to help out. I hear they have some recent experience they can offer….
squeaky commented:
[Two former Afghan Mujahedeen and a six-year detainee at Guantanamo Bay have stepped to the fore of this city's military campaign, training new recruits for the front and to protect the city from infiltrators loyal to Col. Moammar Gadhafi.] just more of obama’s extending a hand an all. talk about strange bedfellows. a “why can’t we all get along moment” for sure.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703712504576237042432212406.html?mod=WSJ_hp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsThird
George True commented:
How long until those heat-seeking missiles will be targeting coalition aircraft?
A conservative voter commented:
It is not fair. Our troops doesn’t need to be over there in Libya. They need to come home. We don’t feel safe here anymore. Obama’s foreign policy has failed. He will start his campaign sometime next week. It is too early. He haven’t done nothing to fix the economy and is not going a good job. Everything is going up high like gas, home, food, loans, and taxes. The jobless report from the Labor Dept. yesterday doesn’t look good. They create a green jobs for the Americans and it doesn’t work because they use our taxpayer’s money. What’s a waste of our taxpayer’s money? It is about 13.5 millions people are out of work since March, 2011. I hope that Obama will lose the election in 2012 and be a one-term President.
MrGoodWench commented:
Has anyone heard from the CodePink hags yet ?
MrGoodWench commented:
George True commented:
How long until those heat-seeking missiles will be targeting coalition aircraft?
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Maybe thats why Obama is giving it to them
Paula commented:
Please let me know when this stops being an illegal war, and looks like the gun-walking problem going on in Mexico??
Chippy commented:
Let’s train and arm the islamists rebels so they can go back to Iraq and Afghanistan and kill our guys.
uncivil & right commented:
Like monkeys f*cking a football.
tommy mc donnell commented:
#1 granny we training al-qaeda in libya so they can fight us in iraq and afghanistan.
BarbaraS commented:
What’s wrong with you people? Don’t you understand the new rules of warfare are: 1) everyone starts on the same level of armament and training. If the enemy doesn’t have this, we must furnish it to him. At our cost naturally. 2) For every enemy killed, one of our soldiers must be killed too. 3) It is understood all “civilians” are attending weddings and funerals and that is why they fire guns in the air and at us. 4) Our soldiers must stop and ask a non uniformed “civilian” if he is the enemy before they can shoot at him. 5) If he says he is the enemy, we must read him his miranda rights and ship him to the US for civil trial. In NYC naturally. Have I covered everything? Is there some other insanity I missed.
uncivil & right commented:
Gee,sure hope they are also getting sensitivity training to accomodate all the gays who wish to freedom fight.
No Man commented:
Remember this in November 2012.
StrangernFiction commented:
Obama is looking after AQ’s long-term interests.
bg commented:
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re: Obama must have forgotten to tell us this
in his big speech on Libya earlier in the week.
which is why i tune into AJ-E for updates..
heck, like i said.. they not only have the best protest/conflict coverage,
but they put the hammer down on Obama’s every word so to speak, not
like the wussies on CNN, MSNBC, etc, including Fox..
ps: be it good news or bad news, along with checking out net news and
a Libyan blog or two, i may not know all there is or needed to know, but
at the very least, i know i’m as informed as i can be, hence, have ample
enough info to be able discern what the truth is from the propaganda as
best i can as well..
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StrangernFiction commented:
Does anyone know anything more about this story:
http://nation.foxnews.com/culture/2011/03/31/us-servicewomen-encouraged-wear-headscarves-afghanistan#
Are the soldiers pictured freely choosing to go without their helmets?
Somewhat Reasonable Voice commented:
This government’s stupidity knows no bounds.
sablegsd commented:
I hate that lying, conniving pencil necked freak.
Andreas K. commented:
Heat seekers. That’s smart power. Because those muselmaniacs would NEVER use the weapons and training to kill Americans and other “infidels”, right?
Simon commented:
Train ME and supply me with arms, PLEASE!
bg commented:
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StrangernFiction #20
no, but there’s a link to the whole story via your link here..
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onbe commented:
UPI Washington-Libyan rebels are taking advantage of U.S. gun laws to buy thousands of weapons that are being used in an escalating civil war that has claimed more than 3000 lives since late March, experts and law enforcement officials tell UPI News.
U.S. firearms agents estimate that around 80 percent of the weapons used by Libyan rebels come from the United States, where leaders are hiring Americans with clean records to make the purchases for them. In the past four days,authorities say they have seen 90,000 weapons from their
bg commented:
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heh, albeit in different ways (so far) they’re blowing each other up over
there, Obama ‘s blowing US up over here, fits in perfect with the NWO’s
depopulation plan..
more here and here and here and there’s still much more to it..
[please scroll up/\down & click on connecting
links as you go for more info, or not, thanks]
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commonman commented:
There was info out today that going to libya was discussed in 07, bg do you know any info on this?
bg commented:
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onbe #26
got a link??
the only one i could find was this one..
Drug Money Seized By Dea Law Enforcement
If U.S. officials can “help clean up his image” and lift the ban on arms sales to ….. cartels are taking advantage of US gun laws to buy thousands of weapons that are being used in an escalating drug war that has claimed more than 31000 lives since late 2006, experts and law enforcement officials tell NBC News. …
which is evidently not it..
thanks in advance..
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Ariel commented:
“He told us that on Thursday night a new shipment of Katyusha rockets had been sent into eastern Libya from Egypt. He didn’t say they were sourced from Egypt, but that was their route through.”
C’mon people, let’s focus here.
Maybe it’s time to scratch a little deeper into this story. For instance, does anyone remember the story of Al’ Qaeda raiding the Libyan munitions depot? You should, it happened a little over a week ago.
‘Al-Qaeda snatched missiles’ in Libya
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/al-qaeda-snatched-missiles-in-libya/story-e6frfku0-1226028543204
Anyhooo, so Al’ Qaeda in the Magreb, (who are located right next door to Libya) rob a Libyan armory and lift a bunch of state of the art weaponry; including mortars, surface to air missiles, and quite possibly Katyusha rockets. I say “quite possibly” because we know Kaddafi purchased most of his weapons from Russia, so in all likelihood, some Katyusha rockets would likely have been stockpiled there as well.
So here’s the problem. Now Al’ Qaeda, and the rebels by extension, have access to a lot of high tech weaponry, but none of them know how to use them. Although some members of the Libyan army are trained in their use, eg. The Khamis Brigade, commanded by Khamis Khaddafi, the sixth son to the enlightened despot. Khamis also recieved his military training in Russia, so he would certainly have known how to use them, but he’s working for the other side, as is probably anyone else trained in their use.
So who do you call when you need technical advice on Russian military technology, but you can’t call the Russians: the good ole US of A, that’s who! Thus, a plausible cover story is planted, namely that the rockets may have come from Egypt, no one knows for sure, but who’s to doubt the honest Libyan rebels who only desire democracy and freedom? Even if some of them were previously Al’ Qaeda fighting against the US in Iraq and Afghanistan. After all, they’re fighting against the evil Khaddafi now, not against us. After all, they would never use such weapons against us, would they? Could they? Should they?
“I do not like green eggs and ham,
I do not like them, Sam I am!”
Ariel
bg commented:
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commonman #28
no, but don’t doubt was discussed, i also don’t doubt going into any enemy
nation hasn’t been discussed, that would be dereliction of duty so to speak,
and here you go.. and there’s absolutely no surprise who
gave the speech, not to mention whom he gave it..
4 Star General Discusses Plan to Invade Libya (2007 video)
btw, it’s not a very informative speech, no proof whatsoever proffered,
just the words of one of the many usual anti-Bush suspects (also noted
for lying, well, to be kind, more like making stuff up via half truths)..
ps: i wouldn’t put too much faith in his version of things, but feel free to
think whatever you like based on this flimsy “out of context” hit piece..
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Dave-O commented:
This is another reason the rebels sought a ceasefire the other day – they could use the “downtime” to be supplied and trained in additional weaponry and tactics – then re-launch the attack when they can coordinate with NATO airstrikes, etc. – Q-Daffy was too smart to fall for this ruse – he’s trying to wipe them out before US Special Forces can increase their effectiveness.
Heard second-hand from a friend, who has a friend with a son in Special Forces, etc. – that he is being deployed to Libya – going to Germany first (US base) to assemble and receive briefing prior to being flown to US aircraft carrier off the coast of Libya, prior to insertion in hostile country. I’m not saying it’s Gospel – just what I’ve heard. This will surprise no one on this forum.
StrangernFiction commented:
#25 April 2, 2011 at 5:41 pm
bg commented:
I was just wondering if anyone had heard anything from unofficial channels on this. My guess is that they are being put more at risk by the powers that be, not by individual choice.
retire05 commented:
Americans training Libyans to kill Americans.
Sounds like a smart foreign policy to me.
onbe commented:
29 bg commented
If U.S. officials can “help clean up his image” and lift the ban on arms sales to ….. cartels are taking advantage of US gun laws to buy thousands of weapons that are being used in an escalating drug war that has claimed more than 31000 lives since late 2006, experts and law enforcement officials tell NBC News.
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Yes however that is an important article as well.The Fast and Furious operation (was) an attempt falsely persuade the American people into accepting a first volley in gun control laws.
bg commented:
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re: #31
hmm, if this (extremely short) video clip was supposedly made in 2007, i have to wonder why it hasn’t been revealed until now, ergo, i cannot help but note how convenient and timely it’s release has been.. aah, we ain’t seen nothing’ yet folks.. propaganda, the newest old game in town.. *sigh*
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bg commented:
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onbe #35
oh yes, i know..
however, i’m still awaiting the link..
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bg commented:
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Ariel #30
good catch..
and i know you didn’t say this..
it’s just an fyi..
i don’t believe the US is on any list of who armed Daffy Duck??
more here..
and about those “mercenaries”..
more here (follow the links & the money)..
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bg commented:
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StrangernFiction #33
sorry, i make it my business not to speak for others..
you might try some Military blogs and see if it’s been discussed..
ie: Head Scarves Now a Protective Accessory in Iraq
btw, it too is recycled news.. went through
the same bs all throughout the Iraq war..
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Andreas K. commented:
onbe, they can’t escalate much with semi-automatic guns. And autos are pretty restricted in the US.
If true, those are straw purchases with fall under federal law. Tens of thousands of Americans making such straw purchases for some muselmaniacs? I find that one hard to believe.
David_V. commented:
Hey people, have you considered the news source. Ai Jazeera? training on heat-seeking rockets, why? IT’S A NO-FLY ZONE!!!!.
wolfwalker commented:
Uh, folks, has anyone considered the possibility that the Aljazeera story is nonsense? As evidence I point to this:
““He told us that on Thursday night a new shipment of Katyusha rockets had been sent into eastern Libya from Egypt.”
and this:
“He said these were state-of-the-art, heat-seeking rockets”
Katyusha rockets are a type of mobile artillery first developed in WW2 Russia. A ‘katy’ consists of a rocket motor and a warhead inside a simple metal tube. It follows a strictly ballistic flight path. It can’t be aimed or controlled in flight. Katys are useful only for attacks against large ground targets — such as cities, towns, rear area bases, or large bodies of enemy troops. They are emphatically NOT ‘state of the art’ or ‘heat-seeking’ weapons.
Since at least part of the story is demonstrable nonsense, I don’t see any reason to believe any of it.
bg commented:
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Andreas K. #40
not agreeing or disagreeing, but worse has been done by Americans.. the
UN Blood for Oil scam comes to mind, not to mention this (scroll up) little delved into related illicit arms sales info as well..
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wtd commented:
Al Jazeera reported . . .
Really? Isn’t it shameful enough that our very own state dept. is in cahoots with this anti-American propaganda machine? Why lend legitamcy to AJ? It’s incredibly discouraging to see this site as well as other conservative sites suggesting AJ should be granted any legitamacy.
Lan Astaslem.
bg commented:
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he’s just reporting what was said, did he state it was true??
bet more than half the stuff reported stateside is fake but accurate as well,
but like i said, i always check out the info via other sources..will get around
to it as soon as other sources are available, only time, as with all else these
days, will tell..
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bg commented:
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re: #47
he did say assuming this is true, they believe him, and gave the reasons for
it, and quite frankly since there’s so much we don’t know and still don’t, not
to mention what we do know, i wouldn’t be too hasty in declaring this report
propaganda, as most everything, if not all that has been related to protests
& conflicts reported via AJ-E have more or less been spot on..
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red tape commented:
According to this report, Hillary made a deal with the House of Saud that NATO would deliver democracy to Lybia and the Saudis could kill Bahranians protesting for democracy. Go figure. I guess she was representing the “humanitarian imperialists” at the UN, cuz she sure doesn’t represent US.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MD02Ak01.html
Here’s an article about the UN agenda
http://networkedblogs.com/g9GmJ
Meanwhile Big Daddy remains clueless, but as long as he keeps our military occupied, there’s not much chance for a coup in this country. Damn.
J commented:
Is this what surrender looks like?
bg commented:
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oh btw, forgot all about this, may have some
baring on the report.. yes, no, maybe?? /s/
Obama Signs ‘Mother May I’ Order Green
Lighting CIA Operations In Libya
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Zilla of the Resistance commented:
Linked at my place:
http://zillablog.marezilla.com/2011/04/libyan-lunacy-linkaround.htm
Rulipan commented:
Does anyone in America who write so outrageously about helping Libyan Rebels and how we are helping al-Queda have the short term memory of earth-worms or something? Remember boys and girls it was your oil company toady(W) who helped create al-Qaeda in Iraq by invading this country and hanging Saddam in order to find the famous Weapons of Mass Destruction that the CIA knew Saddam didn’t have( since the WMD program was being developed by the USA-you know, in the good old days when Rumsfeld would sit in Sadam’s tacky couches in one of his many palaces). In short, you who are complaining about helping Libya get rid of a ruthless despot who has killed and plundered for the last 42 years are perfectly content to have American soldiers stay and die for another eight years in a place were the Iraquis don’t want you. Helping the Libyans rebels who actually want American help would make the United States look like a champion of freedom. In other words we would regain our reputation as the light of the world. What a concept! WE WOULD ACTUALLY NOT BE UGLY AMERICANS! WE WOULD NOT BE HATED FOR OUR HYPOCRISY! This thinking is so, so, so un-american.