TEA PARTY WINS… 57% of Americans OK With Government Shutdown If It Leads to Cuts
Posted by Jim Hoft on Friday, April 1, 2011, 6:21 PM
The Tea Party Wins!
57% of Americans say that it is OK to shut down government if it leads to more spending cuts.
Rasmussen reported:
A majority of voters are fine with a partial shutdown of the federal government if that’s what it takes to get deeper cuts in federal government spending.
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 57% of Likely U.S. Voters think making deeper spending cuts in the federal budget for 2011 is more important than avoiding a partial government shutdown. Thirty-one percent (31%) disagree and say avoiding a shutdown is more important. Twelve percent (12%) are not sure. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
Republicans want to make more spending cuts in the current budget than Democrats do, but 36% of voters think it would be better to avoid a government shutdown by authorizing spending at a level most Democrats will agree to. Fifty-seven percent (57%) would rather have a shutdown until Democrats and Republicans can agree on deeper spending cuts.
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Militant Conservative commented:
Count me in! I took the poll, I do not need the FED en any shap matter or form except the military.
I think the democrats have this all wrong, last time the DEMS got the reaction due to the rhetoric of the MSM. Now most detest the MSM and even more so the DEMS. WE are dynamic in America not static. America grows and changes, the dems never really got this.
powder is dry.
Chisum commented:
But Harry Reid said the Tea Party had fizzled.
wanumba commented:
Just make sure they don’t cut our national defense in any measure. Everything ELSE is good to go, be sure to ALSO INCLUDE a passel of business-choking regulations and laws.
Think of the private sector explosion in goods and services and JOBS.
Jim commented:
Too bad it’s not permanent, or at least for a whole year. Now that would be good.
StrangernFiction commented:
SHUT. IT. DOWN.
cutlers bad knee commented:
The dems want the government to shut down,the unemployment #s are down (fixed #s) so now when the #s go up to 9.5% where they are really at, next month the dems can just blame the GOP saying its their fault because they the GOP shut the government down.The job #s are just another one of many Democrat lies to hold power.
The road to Hell is paved with liberals.
Bill Duhemel commented:
It should, of course, be mentioned that the 57 percent figure is for people preferring a shutdown to NO cuts whatsoever. Which neither side is suggesting. On top of this, it’s worth noting that 44 percent of those polled believe that shutting down the government would be bad for the economy, as opposed to 22 percent who think it would have no impact. So, these are not particularly decisive or unusual numbers….
Lisa G in NZ commented:
shut it down… I can think of a few departments not needed:
ATF, EPA, IRS, NEA, FDA
what else?
see, problem solved, easy peasy
commonman commented:
Shut the whole place down ,for sake of our Nation and its people.
Auntie Em commented:
SHUT IT DOWN!!! Dems should also just cut and fleebag and let us replace them with folks who love this country and will right the ship again!!
LibertyAtStake commented:
Translation: 57% of Americans are awake and alert. I’ll take those odds. Shut it down now!
d(^_^)b
http://libertyatstake.blogspot.com/
“Because the Only Good Progressive is a Failed Progressive”
wolfwalker commented:
57% of Americans say that it is OK to shut down government if it leads to more spending cuts.
That’s good.
This is bad: when you ask what people want to cut, there are large majorities against any reform of the three biggest money-leeches in the budget: Social Security, medicare, and Medicaid.
How can we convince people that reforming those programs is the only way to make meaningful spending cuts?
dwd commented:
If everyone understood that ~75% of government functions would remain functioning even during the “shutdown”, that shutdown approval percentage would be even higher.
dwd commented:
#13 April 1, 2011 at 7:21 pm
wolfwalker commented:
57% of Americans say that it is OK to shut down government if it leads to more spending cuts.
That’s good.
This is bad: when you ask what people want to cut, there are large majorities against any reform of the three biggest money-leeches in the budget: Social Security, medicare, and Medicaid.
How can we convince people that reforming those programs is the only way to make meaningful spending cuts?
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You show them graphs like this:
Here’s The Only Chart You Need To See To Understand Why The US Is Screwed
SupportTheTroops commented:
Go ahead. Vote for the shutdown. Just remember that the military won’t be paid either. See how willing they are to agree with you. I’d be mighty pissed if I was being shot at, getting hit with IEDs, etc. and not getting paid for it. They still have to show up for work, pay or no pay. You wouldn’t work for pay would you? No. Especially not in a dangerous job. Let’s not put more of these soldiers’ lives at risk by shutting down the gov’t. If they’re not getting paid, they can’t pay their bills. If they’re worrying about what’s going on at home because of not being paid, their head isn’t in the game while they’re deployed. Then they’re more likely to make mistakes. Mistakes that could be deadly. So go ahead. Shut down the government. And stop paying every other working adult in this country too.
StrangernFiction commented:
#7 April 1, 2011 at 6:52 pm
Bill Duhemel commented:
It should, of course, be mentioned that the 57 percent figure is for people preferring a shutdown to NO cuts whatsoever. Which neither side is suggesting. On top of this, it’s worth noting that 44 percent of those polled believe that shutting down the government would be bad for the economy, as opposed to 22 percent who think it would have no impact. So, these are not particularly decisive or unusual numbers….We are boned!FIFY
StrangernFiction commented:
#16 April 1, 2011 at 7:30 pm
SupportTheTroops commented:
I’m sure you are quite the supporter of our Armed Forces.
shut it down commented:
hardly anything gets shut down in a shutdown
Valerie commented:
“hardly anything gets shut down in a shutdown”
exactly. And the explanation made it through to the voters.
Auntie Em commented:
SupportTheTroops:
Then maybe they would come home and work here and make this country stronger. We need them here. Not off fighting WTF’s stupid wars.
Auntie Em commented:
WTF’s wars aid and abet the terrorists.
lynched1 commented:
@ Chisum – Harry wishes the tea party would fizzle out. He realizes it may their only hope in ’12.
bg commented:
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The Tea Party Wins!
Amen, now they need to rule in 12..
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dwd commented:
#16 April 1, 2011 at 7:30 pm
SupportTheTroops commented:
Go ahead. Vote for the shutdown. Just remember that the military won’t be paid either.
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False
No shutdown in a government “shut down”
“Troops would remain at their posts.”
“That’s the little-known truth about a government shutdown. The government doesn’t shut down.”
“…1.6 million uniformed military personnel exempt from a shutdown.”
Go troll somewhere else, liberal.
mcc commented:
Some facts from an article (that echoes Thomas Sowell and Michael Barone) on a government shutdown:
Let me be absolutely clear here. There will be no disruption in Social Security, welfare, civil service retirement, or any other kind of open-ended mandatory program payments. The mail will not stop because the Post Office is largely self-funding (with you know, those stamps you buy to mail things with). Air traffic controllers will not go on furlough, jets will keep flying, the Border Patrol will keep on attempting to secure the border that Janet Napolitano wants unsecured, and our military will stay in the fight, however poorly and treasonously led by the current Commander-in-Chief.
Will there be adverse effects? Absolutely. We are talking about a government shutdown. But they are not the dire consequences Democrats are hyping. The only people who will really notice the government shutdown are government workers themselves, and most importantly, Congressional Democrats.
Boo hoo!
Notice that the CRS Report link is directly from the Democrats’ House Rules Committee website. So the Democrats know all this, but they blatantly lie about it. They have an advantage in doing this because the media relentlessly echoes their message.
http://www.teapartyconnect.com/915/looming-government-shutdown-anarchy/
mcc commented:
Re #26 – More facts from article – what’ll be needed to defeat Dem lies and win more public support:
The CRS report is explicit regarding those government services that will not be disrupted. Cut and pasted directly from the report:
Essential Services and Personnel
A 1980 Office of Management and Budget (OMB) memorandum defines “essential” government services and “essential” employees as those:
1. providing for the national security, including the conduct of foreign relations essential to the national security or the safety of life and property;
2.providing for benefit payments and the performance of contract obligations under no-year or multi-year or other funds remaining available for those purposes;
3.conducting essential activities to the extent that they protect life and property, including:
■medical care of inpatients and emergency outpatient care;
■activities essential to ensure continued public health and safety, including safe use of food, drugs, and hazardous materials;
■ continuance of air traffic control and other transportation safety functions and the protection of transport property;
■border and coastal protection and surveillance;
■protection of federal lands, buildings, waterways, equipment and other property owned by the United States;
■care of prisoners and other persons in the custody of the United States;
■law enforcement and criminal investigations;
■emergency and disaster assistance;
■activities that ensure production of power and maintenance of the power distribution system;
■activities essential to the preservation of the essential elements of the money and banking system of the United States, including borrowing and tax collection activities of the Treasury; and
■activities necessary to maintain protection of research property.
Militant Conservative commented:
I have infiltrated the republican party at the state level. I will guide it to the fed level. I am a delegate and voting member. Terd deomcrats, fear me for I will vore for the merciless conservatives. Your head on a pike and the constitution restored.
powder is dry, I’ll carry a gun all the way through.
Wimps.
Militant Conservative commented:
#16 April 1, 2011 at 7:30 pm
SupportTheTroops commented:
dumbass, we fund the nessesary. Not the gubmt. military is nessesary, most else is not.
Piss off, I can protect myself as I was the military. You however were a never was.
powder is dry
greg commented:
Remember the fear over the computer date crisis of 12/31/99 when the best IT minds predicted planes would fall, trains would crash, banks would lock up, refineries would shut down. Basically anything with a date stamped programmable controller was expected to fail at midnight New Years eve. I myself delayed a trip to Malaysia until the middle of January 2000 to avoid the forecast ed failure…….
Shutting down the government is fear mongered no differently than what the IT folks did. I do believe that the only ill effects will be the national parks and TSA to let the common folk know there is a consequence for not rolling over the debt. I can’t think of any discomfort resulting from the Fed govt shutdown. And that is how I value the Fed Bureaucracy
wolfwalker commented:
Remember the fear over the computer date crisis of 12/31/99 when the best IT minds predicted planes would fall, trains would crash, banks would lock up, refineries would shut down.
Yeah, I remember it. I was one of the many thousands of programmers who worked for many moons to make sure it didn’t happen. We succeeded. That’s why it didn’t happen.
Brooke commented:
Why not shut it down ….at the very least they should use this as an opportunity to make a statement, show strength and integrity and stand by their conviction….and of course make some substantial cuts. After all, we seem to manage fine when they ” shut it down” for their NUMEROUS vacations!
ProLifer commented:
A permanent shutdown works for me!
(We can begin again in Fall 2012.)
Pa Deuce commented:
Here’s the drill. Only non-essential functions willl be shut down, meaning that military and police and some others will continue to function. When Departments of Energy and Education shut down, and any other Departments not listed in the Constitiution as enumerated functions, just leave them closed down. Voila! We have eliminated all the parasites that cost so much, and restored the Constitution. Go for it.
LimoLibsStink commented:
0bama:
I thought I told the MSM to smear the Taxpayer… it has not worked. The MSM really sucks!
Although my limousine is belching fumes, I will be the first to protest a cut in my cronies or my pay… although I should be getting $6.50 per hour due to my crappy performance. I also promise you that to the best of my abilities I will waste your money! Good day.
dee commented:
I’m tired of the Government and their lack of responsibility. SHUT IT DOWN.
I can use the break………….
gary commented:
HOORAY FOR ME!!! That is the mantra of the selfish diseased creatures that exist today. No emapthy, no compassion, these are signs of a sick diseased sociopathic soul. Do you realize how many disabled hero’s that served in the military would receive no money to live on. What would you want them to eat, dog food? Elderly people that are alone and in the 80′s and 90′s would not receive their social security. These diseased animals that call themselves tea partiers will soon be destroyed by God….watch..mark my words!
Tyler Tou commented:
BS! I think the artical is very misleading. Many of us don’t care if the goverment shuts down as long as republicans don’t get their way. Tea Party wins???? I think NOT. I would rather see a government shut down than see a single republican proposal passed. I think we need a special election to remove the radical republicans from office and get back business. What America needs to cut are tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans and start making them pay taxes like the rest of us. We should pull our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan and pump those funds into saving medicare and social security. We should cut out NAFTA and create jobs in America. We have to invest in our infrastructure with tax dollars and the only way to do so is to repeal the Reagan era tax cuts. Doing so would create jobs in America for Americans. We need a Wall Street sales tax to pay for the Wall Street bail out and an import tax to pay for the auto bailout. As a final act of ethical government, we need to indict George W. Bush and Dick Cheney for racketeering, treason, and conspiracy to promote accountability in government. We need to also indict Goldman Sachs for stealing seventy billion dollars from American tax payers. Yes we need to make many cuts, starting with the radical republicans in the house. But to think of Social Security and Medicare as entitlements that can be manipulated, taken, privatised or redistributed is just purely criminal. I paid in and thats MY money! Thats MY 401k. Thats My Pention Plan! That’s MY insurance! I paid for it! It was part of my labor contract and I’ll be damned if I’m going to let greedy corporate bought radical evil republicans steal it from me.
tommy mc donnell commented:
if congress is shut down can they still spend money? if not, shut them down for a couple of years.
Darken Raul commented:
@ Tyler Tou: LOL! You forget your tags? Or are you that ignorant?
Bottom line is if I spend TWICE what I make every year on credit cards. I get into deep trouble. If I had a child doing this, I’d cut up their credit cards for them and do a little educating.
However, these are our EMPLOYEES acting like this. Time to physically haul some of them out of the building and lock the doors so they can never return.
Militant Conservative commented:
#39 is an ignorant troll. Too stupid (permanent condition) to understand the realities os self governance. These are the true dangers to America, the ignorant electorate that votes an reproduces.
Powder is dry
mcc commented:
Tyler’s just pretending to be stupid. For instance:
What America needs to cut are tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans and start making them pay taxes like the rest of us.
[...]
We have to invest in our infrastructure with tax dollars and the only way to do so is to repeal the Reagan era tax cuts. Doing so would create jobs in America for Americans.
But just in case, let Thomas Sowell teach him a thing or two:
In 1920, when the top tax rate was 73 percent, for people making over $100,000 a year, the federal government collected just over $700 million in income taxes— and 30 percent of that was paid by people making over $100,000. After a series of tax cuts brought the top rate down to 24 percent, the federal government collected more than a billion dollars in income tax revenue— and people making over $100,000 a year now paid 65 percent of the taxes.
How could that be? The answer is simple: People behave differently when tax rates are high as compared to when they are low. With low tax rates, they take their money out of tax shelters and put it to work in the economy, benefitting themselves, the economy and government, which collects more money in taxes because incomes rise.
[...]
High tax rates…do not bring in as much revenue as lower tax rates… It was much the same story after tax cuts during the Kennedy administration, the Reagan administration and the Bush Administration.
http://www.creators.com/conservative/thomas-sowell/deficit-reduction.html
Just Chillin commented:
I’m okay with gov’t shut down. Cut twenty percent of federal gov’t. spending.
equality fairness and freedom commented:
everything else the tea party bases thier policies on are lies…why should we believe this suddenly?