If Barack Obama wants to be included on the ballot in Arizona in 2012 he will have to show proof of citizenship. The Arizona senate passed their “birther” bill last night. The bill will now be sent to Republican Governor Jan Brewer who will sign it into law.
AZ Central reported:

The Arizona Legislature has become the first in the nation to pass a measure requiring presidential candidates to provide proof of citizenship in order to get on the state’s ballot.

House Bill 2177 got final approval Thursday night from the House. It will be transmitted to Gov. Jan Brewer, who will then have five days to sign it, veto it or do nothing and allow it to become law.

If Brewer chooses to veto the bill, Republican lawmakers could attempt an override vote. The bill would become law if two-thirds of legislators supported the override.

“It’s essential that we bring back the integrity to the office,”
Rep. Judy Burges, R-Skull Valley, said during a recent debate on one of the so-called “birther” measures.

HB 2177, sponsored by Rep. Carl Seel, R-Phoenix, would require presidential and vice presidential candidates to provide the Arizona secretary of state with documents proving they are natural-born citizens.

Those documents can be either a long-form birth certificate or two or more other permitted documents, including an early baptismal certificate, circumcision certificate, hospital birth record, postpartum medical record signed by the person who delivered the child or an early census record.

 

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  1. Being Obama has admitted that he is not an American I guess he won’t be running in the State of Arizona.

  2. lots of weasel room there. An “early census record”? WTH!.

  3. Proves that there is more than one way to skin a cat!

  4. Remember when Michele Obama said “We went back to Baraks home country” Kenya.

    OOPS damn remembering things the left says is kinda inconvienent.

    Powder is dry

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  6. And what about the natural born citizen part, as per the Constitution?

  7. What about the part where BOTH parents have to be US citizens???

  8. The definite of Chutzpah is calling those who believe Obama was not born in the USA birthers while telling an audience he was not born in the USA.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhKuunp8D8&feature=player_embedded

  9. This new bill appears to give Obama a lot of room to wiggle out. It might require proof that he was born in Hawaii, but that isn’t the key issue here.

    Anyway, it’s a good start. Might give Mr. Thin Skin some heartburn, and that’s always good for a show as he gets his self-righteous act going.

  10. Birthers will finally be put in their place by this.

    Mark Levin: Obama has a legitimate birth certificate. Get over it.

  11. #10 April 15, 2011 at 10:41 am
    NickDeringer commented:
    Birthers will finally be put in their place by this.
    Mark Levin: Obama has a legitimate birth certificate. Get over it.

    Well, then all Obama needs to do to stop ‘birthers’ is to show the official Birth Certificate that was issued when and where he was born. Not a Certificate of Live Birth, a real Birth Certificate such as all Americans born here have. Should be so easy.

  12. Nicktard?? Is Mark Levin your “GO-TO-GUY” for political discourse.
    Sorry chump, but Mark Levin doesn’t get to decide what IS and IS NOT on Opie the Kenyan dimwit’s birth certificate.
    Nicktard? Can you give us a reason why OPIE the DIMWIT is hiding his birth certificate??
    Think hard moron.

  13. #12 April 15, 2011 at 10:52 am
    gus

    all I can say is…Bawahahahhhahahhahahhah Ha!

    Thank you!

  14. Well, I am, for one, tired of the highly paid talkers like Beck and Levin telling everyone what to think. They should get their facts up to snuff or shut the h3ll up.

  15. I found this link in the comments at JOM.

    OCON DOCS: Hawaii Ballot Chief…Grandma, Called Obama To Hawaii In 2008

    http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2011/01/o-con-had-legal-help-from-non-partisan.html

  16. NickDeringer,

    This may very well blow up in Birther’s face but not today. This guy has 16 SSN# to tied to him and his selective service card is fraudulent. He is the most closed President we have ever had. He hasn’t released anything for public review. He first book was written by who? Something is wrong. Since everyone was hyperventilating with Oprahs euphoria in ’08 over some guy who sat in a church for 20 years listening to “God Damn America” and sneaking off to Pakistan to do whatever with a forged passport, uh…yeah, I think it’s possible we may have elected someone who may not have his papers in order.

  17. #2 April 15, 2011 at 10:22 am
    garrettc commented:
    lots of weasel room there. An “early census record”? WTH!.

    Defacto, it is a demand for the birth certificate. If Obama comes forward with any of those weak alternatives, people will ask, “Why are you presenting this? Where is the birth certificate you said you had? What’s the deal here?” There may be legal wiggle room but no practical political wiggle room.

  18. They have to be kidding? An “early census record”? You mean like when some guy comes to the door and asks you how many people live there and you say, “My baby Barack” and that’s all he needs?

    Wow, just wow. Just when I thought they actually do something smart they beat us with the stupid stick.

    However, because Obama has always claimed that the birth certificate exists, I suppose he MUST present that. I am just counting the hours till the 9th Circuit Court strikes down this racist law. :facepalm:

  19. I look forward to read what Obozo spent more than $2,000,000 in order to hide!

  20. It is obvious this vote is in reaction to the DOJ attack on Arizona immigration law.

    Trump better produce some solid evidence to his Birth Certificate claims ( before he announces his candidacy on Stupid NBC People TV otherwise the monkey’s crap is going to be plastered all over the Birthers faces.

    It is bad enough Trump is attempting to identity himself with Tea Party America and yet has NO EVIDENCE to back up his claims but until he produces the evidence I am not going down with that desperate crap!

  21. ++

    Congrats!!

    susan #20

    no, tis Obama who has proffered no proof to back up his claims..

    ==

  22. Trump had better find some good info on either Obama’s missing birth information or
    college transcripts or he will be thought of as the next Jerry Rivers (Geraldo – did you know
    he changed his name to be more hispanic?). Remember the build up when Geraldo was
    opening up Al Capone’s safe? Drumroll please! And there was nothing there – empty!

  23. Let the litigation begin!

    If a single state with a presidential primary has such a law in effect at the filing deadline date, it will either force BHO to 1) produce the documents; 2) find a convenient excuse to not run for reelection; or 3) throw up the greatest storm of organic refuse in an effort to intimidate that State into giving him a pass.

    Such laws, like implementing solid procedures and practices to guarantee the integrity of the voting process and the count, are an essential component to reducing the influence of the socialists in government. It is sad that Republicans are not as interested in taking these measures as they need to be.

  24. Susan,
    I had to give my birth certificate last summer to get a replacement Social Security Card. I’ve had to do it my whole life. I had to give my two children’s to get into kindergarten. Why is everyone acting like this is such a foreign idea?

    Did it ever occur to any of you after 9/11 that someone might try to infiltrate the White House or other office to destroy the country from within? I know it sounds crazy but have four airplanes hijacked in one day, slitting the throats of the pilots to take over the cockpits, and then flying the planes into buildings and a farm in PA killing thousands probably would have at one time.

    This is a no brainer.

    People whether they have opinions on his birthplace or not, need to ask themselves one simple question. What kind of person sitting in such a high office toys with the American people this way? What kind of people in other offices, Military, Supreme Court, and Congress allow that person to do it? The fact is, he is in a position of power and trust. I don’t think it’s asking a hell of a lot for him to release records so people can know his true background. For this reason alone, he isn’t fit to be where he is. He never deserved the title of President of the United States. He was elected for one reason only. It’s his complexion. He isn’t brilliant, he was the least qualified, and he’s as detestable a human being as they come.

    If you can’t produce this, you have no business being anywhere near the highest office in the land. I think people are more afraid of what else Mr. Trump is going to find out, not just his birthplace or who his real father is. There are rumors he dropped out of Occidental because of drugs and bad grades, and never attended Columbia. How are we to know? We can’t even see this “Brilliant” man’s college transcripts.

    This could be his father. Look at the nose, chin, and mannerisms.
    http://octaman.com/comments/MalcolmO.html

    I think the guy is working both with the Weather Underground and Muslim Brotherhood among others. They are prominent in Chicago. I think he is nothing but their front man. The Weather Underground have wanted to infiltrate the Government for years since the late 60′s. Here is a poem that appeared on Ayers blog, he wrote it. I have so much more but I can’t put it all here.

    “The end of an empire is messy at best
And this empire is ending
Like all the rest
Like the Spanish Armada adrift on the sea
We’re adrift in the land of the brave
And the home of the free
Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye.”
    Now why would Chicago educator unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers quote this poem on his blog this month?  Do you think he knows something, or hopes for something that we don’t?

    Here’s a video of FBI agent Larry Grathwohl now retired. He infiltrated the Weathermen.
    http://youtu.be/HWMIwziGrAQ

  25. This is not good for the conservative cause. Arizona is developing a pattern of passing laws that are (a) uninforceable (b) unconstitutional or (c) silly and Gov. Brewer signs them into law only to have them thown out. It doesn’t make our side look very smart and there is going to be a backlash.

  26. This will last about 2 seconds on appeal.

  27. #24 April 15, 2011 at 12:56 pm
    aprilnovember811 commented

    First, I was out on the streets protesting the Left two months after 9/11/2001, day-in-and-day-out been warning about this the LEft BS bamboozle for the last ten f*cking years!

    Second, I am not questioning legality of Birth Certificates, I am simply pointing out that Obama was elected into office two years ago and tying to undo what the court found legitmate is waste of time.

    Why are you not asking the question:

    Why didn’t Trump say all this Birth Certificate crap BEFORE Obama was elected rather than waiting three years later, just prior to his Ross Perot campaign to help re-elect Obama?

  28. “Birthers will finally be put in their place by this.
    Mark Levin: Obama has a legitimate birth certificate. Get over it.”

    As much as I respect Levin the issue is not whether or not BHO was born in Hawaii. It is whether or not he is “natural born” according to the requirements of the Constitution.

    Since BHO’s father was a subject of Keyna at the time of BHO’s birth, if that “legitimate birth certificate” shows that fact, then we do have an issue, for according to the law in effect at the time, both parents must be US Citizens in order for their child to be natural born. BHO’s father was not.

    Now, of course the person who BHO told us is his father in his two autobiographies might not really be his father. Given how much money that BHO has spent on legal teams to resist the release of any records of his youth, we have to ask, what does that “legitimate birth certificate” say that he does not want us to know? If his biological father was Frank Marshall Davis, then no problem! Davis was a citizen even if he was a communist.

    What is so hard to understand about this?

  29. Why didn’t Trump say all this Birth Certificate crap BEFORE Obama was elected rather than waiting three years later, just prior to his Ross Perot campaign to help re-elect Obama?

    Anyone have a reason for this bizarre behavior from a man who claims to love his country so much that he kept his mouth shut for two years after Obama was elected?

  30. “What is so hard to understand about this?”

    Nothing at all but the horse has left the barn-the court legitimazed Obama’s birth certificate and he was sworn into office.

    Trump is three years late beating this dead horse; QUESTION THAT for a change.

  31. Susan #30 “Nothing at all but the horse has left the barn-the court legitimazed Obama’s birth certificate and he was sworn into office.”

    If the court legitimized anything it was under false pretense. Please read the following to educate yourself on how bozo got on the ballots.
    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/new-report-on-obamas-democratic-party.html

    Trump is doing a service to this country. The Dems, the media, and the Republicans who are going along with this are all crooks and should all go to jail. This is not going to die and people are not going to let it go. This is the biggest scandal in this countries history and it is being perputrated and condoned by the ruling elite. They are corrupt to the core.

  32. Yay!!!

    Which state is next?
    Connecticut (SB291)?
    Georgia (HB37)?
    Indiana (SB114)?
    Maine (LD34)?
    Missouri (HB283)?
    Nebraska (LB654)?
    Oklahoma (SB91)?
    Texas (HB295)?
    Or will it be Pennsylvania or Montana (which, to my knowledge, do not have specific bills yet; just the desire to do it)?

    Keep going states – get this bum to disclose whatever it is he wants to hide in his records!

  33. Susan,

    Actually,
    http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2010/11/10/congress-state-governments-never-looked-into-obamas-eligibility/

    It is apparently assumed that the persons individual party is doing the due-diligence because, as they state, its no one elses job so they don’t do it…

  34. The final score:

    Birthers 1
    Sanity 0

    There is ZERO evidence that Obama was born out of the US. All the theories that he was have been debunked, including:

    The Pakistan travel ban story (travel WAS legal there for US citizen in 1981).
    The Grandmother story (the part where she repeatedly said he was born in Hawaii was edited out of that youtube video birthers keep citing)

    Look, several Hawaii state officials, including a former Republican governor, Linda Lingle, have all categorically stated that they have seen Obama’s long form birth certificate and that it is valid. If you don’t believe them, then you have to believe that they are all involved in a massive conspiracy to allow a usurper to serve as President. And if you do believe that, you then would have to ask yourself why they would do that?

    If Gov. Brewer signs this thing, she ought to be impeached for molestation of rational thinking.

  35. How long until the crooked Holder or some activist Judge declares it voids or challenges it? I really don’t consider myself – drumroll please – a birther, but my question is why won’t Zero release any prior information? He is the least vetted president in history. He certainly IS hiding something.

    I have one other question, as well. I despise Zero – no question, but what will happen to the country if he is found to be illegal? In an ideal world, he would resign and slink away with his tail between his legs, a la Nixon. But, me thinks he would stay and destroy this country. After all, isn’t that his intention and those with their hands up his back pulling the strings? All I can say is this is not going to end well.

  36. Eric Holder in 5-4-3-2-1- ” This is a racist violation of the voting rights act that takes Amerika back to the days of Jim Crow laws. Arizona remains the mecca of bigotry which is why I have no other choice but to seek an immediate injunction from the 9th circuit court. “

  37. Frank, any relation to Larry??

  38. #37 Cal,

    Nice try.

  39. Frank Sinclair,

    Evidence of him being born outside the US or not; why spend millions of dollars to hide it? Thats the part most “birthers” really question – not the “where was he born” part…

    and as far as this:
    “If Gov. Brewer signs this thing, she ought to be impeached for molestation of rational thinking.”

    So “rational-thinking” is “a state should not be interested in whether a candidate is actually a qualified candidate”? Is that really your stance? Because I fail to see how such a safe-guard is irrational in any way – seems to me that just assuming the individual DNC/GOP parties are telling you the truth is the irrational position…

  40. #39 JoeyO,

    There is no evidence that he his spent millions of dollars to hide anything.

    None.

    This whole birther question was invented out of whole cloth, and this bill is a reaction to something completely made up.

    Jan Brewer, like many other conservatives, is pandering to these nutjobs if she signs it.

  41. Well they’ve had several years now to hide everything, obfuscate, trick, mislead, falsify, etc. etc. So it’s probably too late to get to the truth.

    I got really sick of this “birther” stuff when it first came out. Cuz’ before that, as a trained journalist, it was a total red flag–a page one story. Obama won’t show his birth certificate, won’t show his passport/travel itinerary, won’t show his school records, has a fake SS# etc. It was even more of an issue when a forged bc was circulated on the internet.

    My guess now, is that yes April #24, would not AT ALL be surprised if ol’ Malcolm had a one-night stand with a radical white babe, resulting in Obama.

    “This could be his father. Look at the nose, chin, and mannerisms.
    http://octaman.com/comments/MalcolmO.html

    WOW, now that is incredible. And it would have been quite chic, very avant-garde back then, very “progressive” — the “in” thing to do to show one wasn’t prejudiced: for a white woman to have sex with a black man. Just ask Billy Ayers:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2106113/posts

    You know, I wish we still had journalists who got to the heart of things–dogged muck rakers who wouldn’t stop at supposed dead ends. Whether the birth certificate thing was a hoax, or whether there’s dirt, it’s journalism 101–a STORY.

    Oh never, mind. I forgot. The “reporters” nowadays are mouthpieces for one political party by and large. We always were supposed to be objectively focused. Now it’s nothing but “advocacy journalism” — translate: leftist campaign managers within an accepted public venue. The ultimate tricksters.

    I see no harm in AZ enacting this provision. Why not? Only the dodgy candidates would object, and it certainly sets things back to the Constitution–governor’s rights and mandates to oversee their individual states. Of course, it also could provide a whole new industry of forged documents.

    My head hurts . . .

  42. Does anyone have the link to the exact text of what was passed? I’ve read there is an amendment put in… Has BELOW rendered Arizona’s bill meaningless? A single Amendment:

    “1. Removes parental requirements needed to run for or hold office or to be put on the ballot.”

  43. What Joey O. just said.

    And – Frank, do you think that he fought those legal battles at no cost to himself?

    If so, they were at a cost to somebody, if in time alone.

  44. nevermind my question in #43, I cannot find that language…. here is a link to the Arizona bill and amendments being proposed: http://azleg.gov/DocumentsForBill.asp?Bill_Number=HB2177&Session_ID=102

    In the adopted amendments, # 1 says:

    “The Antenori floor amendment to the Government Reform Committee amendment inserts language regarding a presidential candidate who does not possess a long form birth certificate. A candidate would be able to include two or more of the following:

    a) baptismal or circumcision certificate

    b) hospital birth record

    c) postpartum medical record

    d) early census record.

    Additionally, a candidate would also be able to submit a notarized affidavit from two or more persons who witnessed the candidates birth. ” from: http://www.azleg.gov//FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/50leg/1r/adopted/2177antenori1024.doc.htm&Session_ID=102

    doubtful Mr. Obama has that, eh

  45. Shorter leftie troll comments: “We’re scared to death about what The One is hiding, so shut up.”

  46. Frank Sinclair commented:
    All the theories that he was have been debunked, including:
    Really
    The Pakistan travel ban story (travel WAS legal there for US citizen in 1981).
    The Grandmother story (the part where she repeatedly said he was born in Hawaii was edited out of that youtube video birthers keep citing)

    Look, several Hawaii state officials, including a former Republican governor, Linda Lingle, have all categorically stated that they have seen Obama’s long form birth certificate and that it is valid. If you don’t believe them, then you have to believe that they are all involved in a massive conspiracy to allow a usurper to serve as President. And if you do believe that, you then would have to ask yourself why they would do that?

  47. Frank Sinclair…………..OK, I’ill play. Let’s say that his BC is there and valid, let’s say that he traveled to Pakistan on an American passport in 1981.
    When did he renounce his Indonesian citizenship and WHEN, exactly, did he change his name from Barry Soereto and where the hell is the paperwork?
    Why is his ss number and the registration for service fraudulant?

  48. Frank Sinclair commented:
    \All the theories that he was have been debunked, including:
    Really
    \The Pakistan travel ban story (travel WAS legal there for US citizen in 1981).

    it is for legal residents not for those with a phony passport.
    \The Grandmother story (the part where she repeatedly said he was born in Hawaii was edited \out of that youtube video birthers keep citing)

    You spend too much time on youtube. But I doubt this video is a primary source, anyway.
    I think it comes from Jerome Corsi who actually spent time in Kenya. He reported that during the election his Obama’s grandmother was place under house arrest. Interesting.

  49. #45 Ha. Maybe Obama can get a hospital record from both hospitals.
    That should do it/

  50. YAY for Arizona!!!

    Texas, Git Off The Stump! And pass one just like this! Make sure you demand ALL relevant Paperwork!

    GIT ‘ER DONE!!!

  51. The president of the United States is the most powerful individual in the world. As such, it is important that he meets all the legal requirements needed to hold that office. So far he has not presented physical evidence that he does. Anecdotal evidence from Hawaii officials or his grandmother or journalists are no substitute for physical evidence that will withstand legal challenge all the way up to the Supreme Court.

    Arizona is on the right track in demanding that candidates be able to demonstrate the needed qualification, but ultimately the same sort of citizenship vetting it proposes needs to be uniformly applied by all states. What’s needed is a formal set of uniform procedures that includes full FBI background checks, perhaps overseen by the Supreme Court and backed by the major parties as a precondition for them even to submit the name of a candidate. Let the normal rules of discovery apply, with documents submitted in evidence, and testimony of submitting officials be taken under oath. No proof, no name on the ballot. Why should it be otherwise?

    It’s time to stop playing games with our presidential elections and normalize the procedures for qualifying candidates. It is unconscionable that this hole in our election system has gone unfixed as long as it has.

  52. #15 WOW!

    http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2011/01/o-con-had-legal-help-from-non-partisan.html

    Talk about knock the ball out of the park! My how the Cheaters have prospered.

    Can’t wait for their Harvest to fall on their lovely heads.

  53. Wow Frank…

    uh, yeah there is evidence of Obama spending millions to cover it up – court records don’t just go away, and defenses cost actual money to present. Look up Alan Keyes, or better yet, Democrat Philip J. Berg (the first to file a suit back in 2008) for an example of Obama spending big money to keep his records completely sealed.

    And no, Jan Brewer would be protecting her state from any future potential fraud if she signs such a bill. That is a worthy cause, no matter where you stand on Obama. To argue against that implies one may desire fraud be perpetrated, as such a law literally causes absolutely no harm what so ever to anyone other then those who might choose to break the law and ignore the Constitution…

    It all boils down to “why not just show it”, what is the difficulty in just providing the document and ending the doubt? McCain did when the left was hooting and hollering that he wasn’t born in the US – why didn’t Obama?

    And my real questions have less to do with the birth certificate he refuses to release, and more to do with the strange covering up of seemingly everything related to him. Like, what classes did he take at any of his schools? Or what was his college theses on? Or how about this, whats his medical history look like? Or you know, what about his passport history? You cant answer any of those thing because, for some strange reason, all that is locked away with his birth certificate; hidden from the world. Its unheard of, but its exactly that which Mr. “Transparency” has provided for some strange, strange reason…

    And then take things like his social security number. He uses a SS# 042-68-4425
    (check for yourself: https://www.sss.gov/RegVer/wfVerification.aspx)
    which is well documented to have come from Connecticut in 1977.
    (but you can check that too if you like http://stevemorse.org/ssn/ssn.html)
    A Left-Wing blogger wrote this off stating “he might have got it while visiting his father who was going to school in that state”.

    -First problem, his father didn’t go to school there; he went to school in Mass.

    -Second problem, Obama specifically states that he saw his father only once after the divorce; when Sr. went to HI in 1971 – 6 years prior to the number even being issued.

    -Third problem, the SS# seems to *also* connect to a CT citizen who, supposedly, died in HI (of all places!) in 1981. Now, SS#s are not reused though – So how did Obama get it to start using in 1986 in Chicago?

    -And the Forth, and possibly most interesting problem; let’s just assume there is nothing nefarious over this SS# thing for a moment – but wait, then how did he work for Baskin-Robbins in 1975 if his SS# wasn’t even issued until 1977?

    (you can read more here http://theconservativetreehouse.wordpress.com/2011/04/10/042-68-4425-curiosor-and-curiosor-holy-snap-treepers/ )

    of course, let’s not also forget who his buddy was back in Chicago around 1986:

    “We invented all kinds of ways to obtain false identity papers, and got busy building multiple sets of ID for each of us and for every contingency. We soon figured out that the deepest and most foolproof ID had a government-issued Social Security card at its heart.”
    - Bill Ayers speaking about his Weather Underground days

    Probably all just a coincidence though, and instead we should just go with the DNC assurance that he is eligible to be President and ignore the fact that his entire Pre-Presidency life has been sealed behind lock doors and Obama’s pocketbook outside the ever-so-slight sliver of evidence we have of his existence which seems to contradict completely his claimed history and really, any logical explanation…

  54. Congrats AZ!!! Right thing to do. .

    Now where are the Governors from the other 49 States? They should do likewise!!

  55. mgus,

    Don’t worry, there are 12 other states on the verge, or at least seriously discussing, similar bills.

    I listed many of them (including most of the actual bill numbers) in post #32 if you want to keep an eye on them.

  56. Don’t pop the cork in the champaigne bottle just yet.

    I understand there is at least a 50% chance that Gov. Brewer won’t have the guts to sign the bill.

    Also, you can fully expect the Obama Messiah to get some Federal Judge to declare the bill unlawful.
    ,
    What will become even more obvious IF Gov. Brewer does sign the bill, is the lengths that Obama and his supporters on the right and on the left, will go to in order to evade the issue and to smear anyone who brings it up as a loon.

    On a side note, have you noticed how Fox News and other media outlets have suddenly circled their wagons around Obama on the birther issue?

    What’s up with that?

    Something really stinks in Denmark!

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