Tell that to the Golfer-in-Chief.

As Libya burned and oil rigs continued to lay idle, Obama went out for his 61st round of golf this weekend.

It’s no surprise then that only 3% of Americans believe that Ivy League Schools produce better workers.
Rasumussen reported:

Ronald Reagan was the last president we had who didn’t graduate from an Ivy League school like Harvard or Yale, and the highest levels of government for much of the nation’s history have been filled with Ivy League grads. But that doesn’t seem to influence the thinking of most American Adults.

In fact, only three percent (3%) say individuals who go to Ivy League schools are better workers than those who go to other schools.

 

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  1. #1 March 13, 2011 at 10:34 am
    Chisum commented:
    Obama’s Incredible Lack of Leadership
    but he’s so dreamy [gag]

  2. That fraud in that picture is NOT an ivy league grad. He was no professor. One of the professors called him lazy, etc. No that person in that picture is a FRAUD. Must be sad to go through life and LIE about every thing that you are trying to convince others you are. He is scum! Pretends to be a lawyer…He had his so called law license revoked. Even that thing he is married to lost her licence to practice law. Insurance scamming??? Heck is is not even a president he is a FRAUD.

  3. This is why conservatives should not be in such a hurry to pressure those schools to reinstate rotc. We have one institution that is trustworthy and competent. Let’s keep it that way by keeping rotc out of the ivy league.

  4. Obama aside (bacause we don’t even know if he ever went to class), Ivy League schools are irrelevant. By that I mean they are neither better nor worse than any other schools.

    Along those lines, MBAs are neither smarter nor more talented than anyone else. If the holder of that degree has the basics of his life straight, then his education might be put to good use. If he’s a slacker who simply learned how to pass exams, then I’d rather hire a guy with a high school GED but with some common sense.

    A college diploma is just a piece of paper. A college education is something quite different, but unattained by far too many diploma holders.

  5. Obama would anyway be the exception as he is an example of affirmative action both as a lecturer and as a president.

  6. Oh of course it takes a smart ivy league grad to figure out spending more money than you have is bad very bad….oh wait he hasnt figured that or many many many other things out.

    Now what hole are we on again ? Oh yeah Foreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  7. They produce liars, cheats, and communists. I’m suspicious of anyone with a degree from one of these schools. If I owned a business and was hiring, they wouldn’t be first on my list. Right away I think of someone with little or no character.

  8. Is there a more public example of the Ivy-League fraud than Obama? Obama could have been one of those black police applicants in Dayton struggling to get 58 percent.

    Any wonder why the records of Obama’s background are top-secret when every other president has made such records public? Obama is hiding a lifetime of affirmative-action handouts given liberally in places like Harvard. Just ask Henry Louis Gates and Cornel West.

  9. #6 Redbeard -

    Weeeell, I wouldn’t exactly say the Ivies are “no better and no worse” than other schools – and I’ve lived smack dab in the middle of Ivyland most of my life. Even have a child who is an Ivy.

    Ivies are all about who you know and to a lesser (though not much) extent, how much $$$ you have. There was a huge – and I do mean HUGE – scandal at Harvard a decade or so ago because most of the professors were simply handing out an A to everyone on the basis that if you were “smart” enough to get into Harvard you deserved an A. Gone are the days of the Gentleman’s C – see President Bush (latest) and John Kerry at Yale. Of for that matter Teddy Kennedy at Harvard, though Teddy was a bit of a special case. He got into Harvard and eventually got a sheepskin with the Harvard seal on it specifically because all his brothers went to Harvard and daddy gave Harvard a whole boatload of cash.

    Julia Child did not go to Smith because she was brilliant. She went to Smith because her mother went to Smith. Yes, there is such a thing as a “legacy admission” at the Ivies, something you rarely see at other universities.

    But yes, you are exactly right that a college diploma and a college education are two entirely different things. That’s one of the reasons I ROFL every time I hear someone criticize Sarah Palin because she went to a couple of state universities instead of an Ivy. I’m sure that she learned far more of substance acquiring an education the way she did.

  10. I’d like to see the percentage of Americans who believe that Annapolis and West Point produce better workers.

    The difference between that percentage and the Ivy League percentage would reveal something about the widely pervasive problems within American higher education apart from its military academies.

    The best phrase Abbie Hoffman ever came up with in his life was that American colleges had become “bastions of rest”. Of course his intention with that accidentally great phrase was much different from how I would use it. The problem is that the vast majority of our colleges don’t care to instill and train into today’s presumptuous 18-to-22-year-olds anything close to the degree of personal discipline and honorable character that America so desperately needs in its leaders.

  11. ++

    jorgen #7

    re: [affirmative action]

    aside form sounding racist.. i can’t think of another reason as to why so
    many people keep assuming (without a shred of evidence) that as being
    the end all Obama education scenario (btw, many blacks do not agree
    with AA either)..

    ==

  12. The Ivies teach their students that they are entitled to run this country, because they are the best the country has to offer, and the lesser-quality students swallow it whole. I know this, because I have been to parties held by the big law firms that try to attract Ivy-League grads. If you want to get an earful from the “Masters of the Universe,” show up to one of those parties dressed as a young woman, and let them try to impress you.

    Michelle Obama encountered this attitude when she left Chicago to go to Princeton, and, sorry, the cr@p she found there sounds very much like what I found when I moved from Texas to the East Coast (DC) about the same time.

    She thought it was racism because she is black. It’s really just a kind of provincialism, a prejudice against anything that disadvantages their position as the people who have a right to run this country. They called themselves Liberals, but what they really were, was patronizing.

    Their badge was politically-correct language: they believe you can do any old awful thing to a person, so long as you say it the right way. Hence, you get people who say all the right things, who would never dream of using the word “n!gger,” and yet would freeze out a young Michelle because of her skin color. I thought Michelle’s thesis was truthful because I detected the same thing, and I am white, but I came from Texas, where the only color that counts is green.

    Meanwhile, other schools hire great teachers and insist on building their reputations by providing a meaningful education.

  13. Ivy League is horribly overrated.

    Let me ask you, what good is Ivy League education when the one receiving it doesn’t care? What good is it the best training, if you give it to a twat? Seriously.

    China in the…. let me think… Quin dynasty I think it was (I’d have to check, it’s not really my special area) had a system, where ANYONE could become a civil servant in the government’s hierarchy. Nobility and peasant alike. All that was required was to pass the exams. Sons of farmers could overtake sons of magistrates. All that counted was ability and skill.

    What a concept.

    And China, back then, had only 20,000 civil servants. And they still managed to run the country. Austria, for example, has roughly 200,000 of those, despite all the modern technology available.

    So you’re from Harvard? That only tells me you sat through the required courses. You did the standard program. As long as you don’t do freestyle… sod off.

  14. Ivy League schools don’t produce Workers . . . they produce the elitists that tel the rest of us what to do!

  15. I come from a family of Ivy-educated morons. I never even went to college and I have both feet planted in reality whereas they are the most boring brain-dead people I’ve ever met.
    no common sense. I had lunch with them awhile back and all one cousin could say over and over is how she read this in the NYtimes and read that in the NYTimes, like it was some sort of special club that only certain people could be a member of. I did not have the heart to tell her that the NYTimes has degraded to a crap paper.
    Ivy people seem to have this very condesending idea about how the rest of us “little people” should do things. When you see it in your own family it’s really disappointing. it’s also a very good reason to stay away from them as much as possible

  16. Keep him on the golf course. When he is at work all he does is more damage.

  17. #16 correct.

    My son is at a private military academy. (full scholarship via football).

    The two things the staff said that all cadets learn are time management and leadership.

    Gee, that crap is not valued in the real world. sarc/off

    IVY leagues are just worthless just as thier staff and student body.

    In business hire the 2.5 GPA kid. He may not have made high grades but he did’nt quit.
    Sometimes very bright peoples quit if they do not “get it” first rattle outta the box.
    The lower GPA hire does not quit for they are used to life not coming easy.

    The harder I work the luckier I get.

    powder is dry

  18. Wasn’t 3% the same percentage as Ivy League graduates in the poll sample?



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