Madison Students Will Stay After School 20 Minutes Each Day to Make Up For Teacher Sick-Outs
Posted by Jim Hoft on Monday, March 14, 2011, 7:54 PM
Madison students will have up to 20 minutes added to their school day to make up for missed school last month because their teachers were attending protests at the state capitol.
The district received more than 1,000 sick notes, including some from doctors who were handing them out at the Capitol protests
A Wisconsin doctor was handing out sick notes to union supporters in Madison on the street in February. The UW Health entities that employ the physicians, are investigating of the reported fraud.
Madison.com reported, via Free Republic:
Students in the Madison School District will have up to 20 minutes of additional classroom time each day starting Monday to make up for four days canceled last month because teachers were attending protests.
Because no additional days will be added to the calendar, most teachers will not receive additional compensation for that time, district spokesman Ken Syke said.
Madison schools were closed to students Feb. 16-18 and Feb. 21 because a significant number of teachers called in sick to attend protests against a state proposal to limit public employee collective bargaining. Gov. Scott Walker signed it into law Friday.
The School Board reached an agreement with Madison Teachers Inc. over the weekend that allowed the district to set the makeup calendar. The agreement also ensures teachers with unexcused absences will not be paid for those days and that teachers who submitted fraudulent sick notes will be suspended.
The district has not yet released the number of teachers that missed school to work those days. The district received more than 1,000 sick notes, including some from doctors who were handing them out at the Capitol protests, assistant legal counsel Matt Bell said.
So the students are being held over because their teachers are raging libs?
The kids will love that.
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jd commented:
if i were a student who didn’t march i would be more than a little ticked off here.
Joe College commented:
That ‘doctor’ probably got her white coat at the White House.
mg4us commented:
Fire those teachers who handed in those bogus sick notes!
annie p commented:
When I was in 6th grade, our teachers went on strike. To make up for the lost days, the geniuses decided we would go to school on three consecutive Saturdays. My mother thought the kids were the ones being punished, so she didn’t make me or my high school age brother go. All they did was watch cartoons and play games.
Ladue Pundit commented:
Because no additional days will be added to the calendar, most teachers will not receive additional compensation for that time,…
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ADDITIONAL compensation? How about a four days’ docking? How about no contract renewal–you’re out? What penalty did these goony teachers suffer?
David commented:
But they did it for the kids… happy kids?
Joe's Garage commented:
“So the students are being held over because their teachers are raging libs?
The kids will love that.”
You can bet the teachers will make sure that time is spent doing nothing productive in order to get back at the administrators who made them stay.
TnPatriot commented:
I forged a sick note from my mom once. My back porch was red for a week. Just sayin….
Buffalobob commented:
A teachable moment? I would like to see a follow up on the names and numbers of teachers fired because they lied about being sick. Maybe the students who walked out of school should be made to wear “I followed my teacher and all I got was extra time in school” tee shirts.
Bert commented:
In other words, d.e.t.e.n.t.i.o.n, as in, write on the board 500 times: “I will not let my teacher act stupidly.
mike191 commented:
The teachers union will grieve any teacher suspensions that result from fraudulent doctor notes.Subsequently, the students will be further hurt by the massive use of substitute teachers for the protesting teachers.The steel spine of the school board will be tested.
Alexander commented:
Earlier today, I read about a student who walked out in protest for TEN MINUTES and got a day’s suspension. How about punishing the teachers in proportion to that? http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110312/OPINION/110319919/-1/NEWSMAP
Perhaps the teachers’ pay for the time they were “sick” should be given to the students, either in equal shares or specifically to those who lose pay because they can’t get to after-school jobs at their previously scheduled time?
Taqiyyotomist commented:
Madison schoolkids: consevatives in the making. These teachers have done something I never thought possible.
FINALLY, AT LONG LAST, the teachers have taught them something of value — something about reality that they will hold dear, and remember when they reach voting age.
Militant Conservative commented:
Choices have consequences, the student need to understand WHO caused the negative reinforcement. LOL
Gman commented:
Good! Some of those kids were right there at the protest
Taxpayer commented:
That’ll really make the parents want to vote Democrat now, won’t it?
wanumba commented:
As IF there is going to be any actual instruction recovered. It’ll be 20 minutes of shuffling around looking for coats and notebooks.
The education system is so trashed by unions if kids stayed HOME and did NOTHING instead of going to those schools their achievement scores wouldn’t look much different than they look right now. And think of the MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of dollars taxpayers would save.
How many so-called teachers will reduce their low efforts in sly protest so kids get even LESS of a lousy day than they got before the hissy fits started? Anyone check recently how far along in those fat, heavy textbooks kids get of a year?
Our kids got to chapter 4 of 14 chapters in math last year. THat’s BARELY past REVIEW of last year. Like they really are going to do well on the SAT with 4 chapter of ALgebra I and 3 chapters of Algebra II. THe transcript LOOKS wonderful, but there’s NOTHING behind the officially fulfilled requirements.
We paid for a retired engineer to start SAXON ALgebra I from page ONE and thru to the last page over the summer to recover this disaster. They are ONLY half-way thru SAXON ALgebra II and are already the best performing math students in the school. Say what? A good textbook and a teacher who knows his subject looks like miracles, but it’s just COMMON SENSE.
IT’s ALL for SHOW!! The texbooks weigh a TON, COST a BUNDLE and are full of empty FLUFF and the teachers don’t even get the kids through them. PArents are so EASILY FLATTERED by an A in VAPID. THe schools have found it EASY to feed them lies about the skill levels of their kids.
The education system has become a PERVASIVE LYING culture. Unions.
dnb commented:
What about the teachers who didn’t protest? Why are they paying for the bad actions of others?
Sally commented:
The students who have after school jobs, volunteer work to do, activites, babysitting younger siblings, etc. should simply leave at the old end time.
Why should all other responsibilities suffer?
Ladue Pundit commented:
mike191 commented:
“…The steel spine of the school board will be tested.”
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Bingo. School Boards, i.e., local control, are the remedy. Who works for whom? Teachers work for TAXPAYING parents. THe UNION is NOT their employer.
I’d like to see teachers who showed up for work rewarded, and no-show rabble rousers canned or penalized. THIS IS HOW THE REAL WORLD OPERATES!!!
Taqiyyotomist commented:
#19 wanumba
Damn astute comment. I daresay, THREADWINNER.
…I’ve come to expect nothing less from you, wanumba.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
F&&k that was a good comment.
lynched1 commented:
Awesooooooooome
Ladue Pundit commented:
Wanumba, I used Saxon Math when I home schooled my 4 kids, and highly recommend it. Each lesson reviews everything learned up to that point, and there are no word problems about Pablo and Lakeysha cleaning up a toxic waste site.
I swear that was a word problem one of my kids brought home from a 3rd rate Catholic school.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
#27 Ladue Pundit
…no word problems about Pablo and Lakeysha cleaning up a toxic waste site.
You mean, I’m sure, …cleaning up a Republican, capitalist-created toxic waste site…
Yup. Even the “approved” and “correct” MATH texts are full of this brainwashing garbage. Every other subject, too.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
I mean, really — like the Commies who write and approve the textbooks give a crap about Communist-created or Muslim-created toxic waste sites. Those fall into the catch-all category called “Hey, it’s all good!”
It’s the American, capitalist, conservative toxic waste sites that are the bad ones.
They make that clear every day.
Same with every other issue that they claim to “care” about. So what if Mohammadans strangle and rape and kill their wives and daughters! Those are the good guys! We only care about Catholic women wearing a head-covering. THAT’S the real evil in the world.
(The devil stalks the earth.) — my “powder is dry” tag, it seems. And each day it’s more evident.
L.E. Liesner commented:
The Madison School Board reached an agreement with the Madison Teachers Inc, my God if that isn’t stupidity compounded by idiocy nothing ever will be. All those years of the unions controling the schools has finally paid off, a whole country full of idiots. We not only have to take our country back, we need to take control of our schools too. I wonder if this school board ever heard of pink slips, they work wonders.
american patriot commented:
Deep-six the public schools. The benefits are enormous,
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/galvin4.1.1.html
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/galvin5.1.1.html
Barb commented:
All those teachers did was set an example of lying (calling in sick) manipulation of the system,( making excuses for actions to school board to get a pass)as if the school board actually cared ,fraud( phoney sick notes), bullying( name calling and screaming at politicians) and terroristic threats (sending notes threatening to kill politicians and their families). It was done openly in the public eye. So they cannot deny any of this.We would call small kids BRATS for those actions and teenagers juvenile deliquents if they acted this way. But What does WI call them…TEACHERS! If anyone loses their life over any of this, will the left come out and own the blame or spew it as they did with the Tucson shooting I highly doubt it. Those are not the kinds of teachers I want teaching my kids.
wanumba commented:
#23 March 14, 2011 at 9:08 pm
Taqiyyotomist
#27 March 14, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Ladue Pundit
…………..
Thanks as always for your encouragements. We have six kids as you well know (sigh!) so to say we’ve been through the educational system up and down, right to left is an understatement. We have found out the hard way the lying, duplicitous and incredibly GREEDY nature of the modern education profession and spend A LOT of time on making sure we deliver a correct education to the children we have been given. We KNOW the competition out there overseas and we KNOW the American student is being cheated DAILY of skills they NEED to compete for good jobs.
As for SAXON, union teachers hate it, but it’s a VERY reliable, VERY CLEAR, VERY LOGICAL and solid skills builder, with all that review and practice. Our 5th grader’s school bought a new “Christian” math text this year. The scores have fallen badly in only 4 months because it’s all “concept” and no practice. Before anyone jumps on “Christian” – on close inspection it’s the standard public textbook junk, the publisher just dressed their basic crap text in a new robe.
Yeah, the naive school fell for the disguised same old crap. If it’s not one problem with the schools, it’s another, even in the private schools. We just don’t have the type of skilled teacher we once had up to forty years ago, thanks to the monopolies of the education colleges and union hiring. Now, lying, bait and switch is always there somewhere.
Yet, we’ve heard PLENTY ofwell-educated parents just shrug and say, “Well, I’m not paying for it, so, so what?” They pay for it later when their Junior Slacker arrives back at home at 21 with no job or skills.
wanumba commented:
THe teachers also demand kids be put on Ritalin.
Now, think of this: the math textbooks are full of color photos, jazzy designs, foil and color. So also the English texts – spelling lists are on pages of fancy graphics, photos and a SLEW of VISUAL DISTRACTIONS.
They demand drugs to calm what they claim are overstimulated kids, but they decorated the classroom with a thousand posters, thingys and gee-gaws, arranged the seats so that the kids are constantly twisting around to see the board, and make kids stare at wildly distracting texts and cut out recess – the tradtional method to burn off built-up nervous tension. THen they have the NERVE to demand drugs to calm the kiddies down.
Stupid DOES play into this, but so does malicious.
Granny commented:
#334 & 35 – wanumba -
Even better than Saxon is Singapore Math (actually Primary Mathematics US Edition).
lynched1 commented:
I wonder if they’ve learned anything. Welcome to real world kids.
marcinmo commented:
What ? These teachers are going to do interperative dance or creative use of orgasmic tools for an extra 20 mins for the next 75 days? They are too stupid to teach.
marcinmo commented:
sorry St Louis grammar
Boar Breath commented:
Not only should the teachers not be paid, the union should have to pay the extra operating costs of keeping the school open the extra 20 minutes a day.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
#30 Leisner
#34 wanumba
Yeah, the naive school fell for the disguised same old crap. If it’s not one problem with the schools, it’s another, even in the private schools. We just don’t have the type of skilled teacher we once had up to forty years ago, thanks to the monopolies of the education colleges and union hiring. Now, lying, bait and switch is always there somewhere.
Read #30 Liesner’s comment.
Our nation has been so de-educated, and, more importantly, been programmed since 1970 or so, to the point where we as a nation have become ripe for the picking for deceivers — like a field that is ripe and ready to be harvested.
I said a couple months ago, and I stand by it, that, come 2012, it is likely and probable that the TEA Party candidate-of-choice will be a deceiver, and will deceive even the TEA Partiers.
Scott Brown proved to be Left of John McCain. And he was the TEA Party favorite.
Matthew 24:24 (AV1611/KJV) “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”
And it may just be possible, given recent evidence.
Peter Warner commented:
Anyone wanting to know what’s wrong with modern education should read Wanumba’s comments at
19, 34, and 35.
The teachers are not educating, they are repeating the nonsense they were given at education college. It’s worthless progressive drivel, which (because it’s replacing what COULD be done) is destructive to the students’ development and understanding. I work in Japan, and constantly encounter people from America who come to Japan to teach English, and that is what I see. Education in Japan is an industry, but at least there is some sense of national and social responsibility. The American ‘teachers’ usually resist even that, they mostly have been indoctrinated into some sort of ‘social justice’ theme.
What we call ‘public’ education is more accurately called ‘government’ education; it is misguided by ‘progressive’ dogma, and it is a disease. We should reject it.
Best regards, Peter Warner.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
#35
Wanumba, again, amazing comment. I’d never even considered that aspect of this. Even at my age, I concur. I was born in ’71, right around when the blasted Fed. Dept. of De-Education was created. All that you say rings true. I’m exceedingly thankful that I graduated just a hair’s-breadth of time before this made-up ADD-ADHD phenomenon hit this nation, and the drugs began to be administerd. It’s a sad, evil shame.
Everything you say rings true in so many ways. I remember this as well. Every classroom I was ever in was FESTOONED with supposedly educational Distraction.
Classrooms, when you think of the most efficient learning atmospheres, should most logically be what a Monk learns in — an austere monastic environment with nothing to distract from the text, from God, and from the selfish desires.
The classrooms today are the opposite, as you say.
…and the unbelievably hodgepodge textbooks…here’s an example:
I am currently in posession of a book on World History. I don’t know, upon looking at it, just who the hell the publisher is. Get this. The cover says, top to bottom, in several fonts and colors and logos:
Glencoe.
WORLD HISTORY
(-modern times-)
Spielvogel
(logo)National Geographic
wh.mt.glencoe.com
Just the COVER of this 10lb. tome is, probably intentionally, confusing.
Each and every PAGE is an insane attempt at a printed version of “multimedia”.
When this nation was teaching the way it should have been, it was teaching in austere, quiet environments with books that contained nothing but text. Now? We give kids who need meat and potatoes a dish of jello each day.
And they become Wisconsin Union Workers, Obama Voters, American Idol Viewers, and GP Trolls. With no knowledge of history other than the lies they’ve been told again and again and again.
#30 L. E. Leisner, you have it right, but cart-before-the-horse:
We not only have to take our country back, we need to take control of our schools too.
Taking our schools back needs to be STEP NUMBER ONE. As we pretend to be Patriots and Tea Partiers and Old-School Constitutionalists, and followers of the Founding Fathers….THEY ARE TEACHING A FEW MILLION KIDS TO DO THE OPPOSITE.
Andreas K. commented:
I wish we could homeschool over here. But if you try that, the government is on your doorstep with riot police and the media tears you to pieces.
Given how our public schools are going down the sewer it’s a real alternative, but nobody will ever allow it. Violence in schools is through the roof over here, it’s scary. And the teachers are whiny buggers.
Let me explain this for a second.
Most teachers in Austria teach two subjects. That is, in junior high and high school. I’m not sure about the “Hauptschule” (which is essentially a very toned down junior high.) Our school system is very outdated, yes.
These two subjects can be anything. There are teachers who take English and German. Or Maths and German. There are some who take PT and religious education (both are not challenging at all.) The bottom line, however, is not the amount of classes they have, but rather the amount of work done.
School here (at least in my time) started at 7:40. The longest you’d be in school is for 6 units. Those are 50 minute units, plus breaks, so at most you’d be in school until 2 pm, 1:15 or 1:20 I think it was for 6 hours. Then you’d go home. Except those who had additional, voluntary lessons. Which were only an issue in high school (the only place where those were offered.) Then you’d usually stay until three, with whoever your teacher was.
Our schools have no outside programs. We don’t have soccer teams, or similar stuff. Youth sports teams are part of the different teams local areas have. So, in my hometown, if you wanted to play soccer in a club, you’d join the club, in this case the KSV.
The teachers also go home with the students or whenever their lessons are over. So teachers are in school at max from 7:40 to 1:20. Then they go home.
But they’re so overworked over here. They have so much work to do.
When the ministry for education talked about having them work two more hours per week (effectively it was two more units, aka 100 minutes), they went on strike. Their students went on strike as well…
Moral of the story?
Don’t work hard. If you don’t like something, strike, scream, moan, whine, do anything. Just don’t work hard.
P. Wegehaupt commented:
Just a thought. Schools are there for students to learn. So far, on this subject, they’ve learned that teachers can walk off their jobs and not be punished. My solution – don’t keep students 20 minutes a day; they didn’t do anything wrong. Let them go home at regular time. KEEP THE TEACHERS 20 MINUTES EACH NIGHT. Without pay.
Finncrisp commented:
I guess this means the bus drivers will get paid overtime to wait for their students. What a set up…
burt commented:
Cut all the movies they show every day and you don’t need the extra 20 minutes.
pj commented:
Why punish the students they where just doing what they were told to do by the teachers.
Ron commented:
All the students should just walk out of class during the extra twenty minutes. They too have a right to protest.
One upside to this is that these lefty teachers have probably created a whole new generation of young conservatives.
IndyfromAZ commented:
I said 20 years ago when I was in Education, studying to be a teacher, that the tests back then were less than inspiring.
“I barf it at you, you barf it back at me and we proclaim both of us as smart” I believe was the phrase.
Nothing’s changed.
BTW: I was not allowed to finish my Education career because the University I was attending didn’t think I was the right material.
I probably wasn’t!