LIBERAL MEDIA STUNNED… Emails Show Public Favored Scott Walker’s Union Bill
Posted by Jim Hoft on Monday, March 21, 2011, 5:33 AM
It figures.
The liberal media wouldn’t report on the violent protesters, the hateful signs or the bomb plots. (More on that here.) What they did do was sue Governor Scott Walker for emails so that they could prove that voters were with them and the protesters and against Scott Walker’s budget bill.
They were wrong.
62% of the emails sent to Governor Walker supported his budget bill. Only 32% opposed it.
(Politico)
The Wisconsin State Journal reported, via Free Republic:
Gov. Scott Walker was right: The angry crowds in Madison didn’t tell the whole story of how Wisconsinites felt.
In the week after Walker announced his plan to dramatically curtail public employees’ collective bargaining rights in the state budget repair bill, a wide majority of the emails to him expressed support, an analysis of those emails indicates.
But that support was significantly boosted by emails from pro-Walker senders from outside Wisconsin.
The Wisconsin Center for Investigative Journalism analyzed a computer-generated random sample of 1,910 emails from the more than 50,000 that flooded Walker’s office in the week after he unveiled his plan on Feb. 11. Nearly all were related to the bill.
The emails were released Friday as the result of an open records lawsuit brought in Dane County Circuit Court by Isthmus newspaper and the Wisconsin Associated Press. A settlement reached earlier in the week required the governor to produce the emails and pay the plaintiffs’ legal fees, which totaled just over $7,000.
At the request of Isthmus, the Center analyzed the emails. A team of reporters logged each of the emails in the sample as for or against the bill, unclear or unrelated. They also noted the location of the sender when possible.
Of the emails related to the bill, 62 percent supported it, while 32 percent opposed it. The margin of error for the Center’s sample size is plus or minus 2.3 percentage points.
What a shame. The state-run media was hoping to embarrass Governor Walker. Instead, they are left exposed as the leftwing hacks that they are.
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Somewhat Reasonable Voice commented:
This is a hoot. Reminds me of the saying “Be careful what you ask for”.
wheezer commented:
{{{SNICKER}}} Sorry I lost my composure there for a minute….
Neil Sorsky commented:
Having lived years in the ruins of the former Soviet Union I admired and learned how people there gleaned the truth from their news by reading between the lines. By reading between the lines regarding this story (the people vs. Big Education) I can clearly see that most will side with the underdog (the people) and the latter’s days are numbered. They know this and this is why they are acting like the thugs and (now cornered) rats they are. Hip, hip, hooray!
Paul52 commented:
I live here in WI and those numbers sound very plausible. Those of us supporting the bill didn’t issue death threats, run to Illinois, close down schools, occupy the capital building, picket Senator’s homes, vandalize businesses and private property, and import out-of-state thugs to do our dirty work. The wounds here are gonna take years to heal. Our governor definitely has “got nads.”
Mats commented:
Like I always say, leftists are a minority. They may control the MSM, the “arts”, the museums, the campus and all that. But they STILL are a minority. They will ALWAYS be a minority because, as low as mankind can sink, they still retain the Image of God.
peepeeitus commented:
Suuuuuure. Meanwhile record amount of people are showing up to these rallys. More than any teabag rally. Nice try though. Pesky facts
Militant Conservative commented:
#6 March 21, 2011 at 8:30 am
peepeeitus commented:
Yours are bussed in rent a mob sometimes paid to protest. I take vacation time to go to the Tea parties. Do you see the difference?????
Cranial rectal diesease on your part. Love of country on our part.
powder is dry
Stephan commented:
Record amounts off sh*t at the rallies! Hope walker and the repubs flush repeatedly, the people are with you.
SupportFromSouth commented:
“Liars figure………FIGURES don’t Lie” ~ Way to go Wisconson and Gov. Walker!
Patrick B commented:
Did you expect them to report the real story? MSM is useless
Neil Sorsky commented:
Militant conservative: I’d add “hatred of country” to the progs’ part. This fact cannot be underestimated. They hate America and want to replace it with some sort of socialist utopia.
Bill Fabrizio commented:
Peepeeitus, change your underware or diaper, get control of your bladder (I mean your mouth, of course) and face the facts. This will not end well for the unions because the unions do not believe in free choice nor respect the will of the people. They don’t even believe in free choice for their members, eg, card check and the elimination of the secret ballot, they don’t believe in free choice for their members to not pay dues if they do not wish, they don’t believe in the free choice and will of the people who totally abandoned the dems in Wisconsin and elected pubs to fix the spending and ingrained corruption such as the symbiotic relationship betwee the unions and dem pawns they elect into office, nor do they believe in allowing fellow Wisconsinites free will in choosing which side to support on legislation without threats, physical violence, and economic punishment simply because a voter chooses a different path from what they want. I don’t see many American values expressed in the union positions and actions.
Finally, some of us actually sign our real names to our emails as opposed to the cowardly act of adopting incontinent pseudonyms such as “peepeeitus”! Go read the constitution and get yourself some remedial potty training!
ditto commented:
It also could be the decades of low test scores, with the teachers blaming everyone but themselves. They had too many kids in their class, they needed teacher’s assistants, they got everything they asked for and the scores were lower than ever.
Then they cried for parental involvement, but shut them out when they tried to get answers from these teachers. They hide behind tenure, and basically tell parents to get screwed. They have to make an appointment days in advance.
Stop making schools accountable to the government, and make them accountable to the parents. Thats how it used to be, and we had results then. But I fear its too late, the only way to solve this is to break up the public/govt schools and put them back in local control.
Schools have been corrupted by money, we know it and they know it. Thats why they fight so hard for more. They always got what they wanted. But they turn out a faulty product. The taxpayer that is forced to pay for this garbage/abuse has had enough.
Home school or private school until we break this once and for all.
Iconoclast commented:
I find it instructive the Journal did not note what amount of the messages opposing Walker’s efforts originated from sources outside of Wisconsin – nor, indeed, any numerical data to support their allegation his support was “significantly boosted” by writers outside of WI. Could it be the messages opposing the legislation were “astro-turfed” from organized labor as the demonstrations were?
RickZ commented:
When it comes to these proggie protesters, I’m still trying to figure out how they rationalize support for the police (who are union). That’s some serious pot-smoking disconnect right there.
Derak commented:
So will those who emailed support go into a data base of the left for future “re-education”?
Will their businesses be boycotted? Will their benefits get cut? IRS audit?
Not sure I trust the left wing media with safeguarding their identities.
truth commented:
Get the facts straight the MAJORITY Of those emails came from out of state supporting the governor. When you take away the out of state emails you get to 55% in favor and 45% not. Go to the source who has a copy of the emails to get your facts and numbers correct.
http://www.thedailypage.com/daily/article.php?article=32818
Neil Sorsky commented:
Conservatives deal with REALITY (truth)
Liberals concern themselves with the PROJECTION OF REALITY (lies)
The public decides by their PERCEPTION OF REALITY (truth/lies)
Militant Conservative commented:
#19 March 21, 2011 at 9:37 am
truth commented:
Still valid as many of the protesters were bussed in rent a mob union goons.
powder is dry
Brian commented:
#19 Truth stated : “When you take away the out of state emails you get to 55% in favor and 45%”
I looked at that source, and it looked like 55% to 42%, even distorting printed numbers to make it look closer than it was…and no matter how “truth” tries to spin it, out of state, in state…the majority still favored Gov Walker
Highlander commented:
There – must – be – some – mistake.
Valerie commented:
I hope this computer-generated list tossed out the duplicates to the extent possible. When I was involved in a political tiff in the Great State of Maryland, the Usual Suspects emailed one representative repeatedly (using their own email addresses) and this less-than-honest woman then reported the numbers as if they were from separate constituents.
Ginger commented:
I am on that list of emails! Proud too! You see Wisconsin is part of the US! I am part of the US! I was not paid and bussed into Wisconsin I just had to sit at my computer and Type
My Dearest Hero Governor Scott Walker
I just wanted to let you know that you and the Republican Senators are a breath of Americana. So proud of your courage. If only we had your beliefs and courage in the two houses of Congress but to regret the Communist has taken over our government and courts. Stay safe and protect your family. We have some very evil Communist out there that does not agree with American beliefs. We all have to stay strong and fight this fight!
God Bless YOU Sir
etc.
Valerie commented:
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#19 March 21, 2011 at 9:37 am
truth commented:
Get the facts straight….”
Oh, let’s do that. Please. Here’s your cite:
http://www.thedailypage.com/daily/article.php?article=32818
and here is the underlying cite:
http://www.wisconsinwatch.org/2011/03/21/analysis-emails-favored-walker-2-1/
And here is the bottom line:
“So, actually, this is close to what he was saying,” said Charles Franklin, a professor of political science at the University of Wisconsin-Madison.
And, there were duplicates:
“The most prolific person sent at least 252 messages against the bill.”
“There was evidence of organized campaigns on both sides.
One pro-Walker form letter sent at least 174 times said, “The measures put forward in this bill are not easy or painless, but they are necessary if the state is to honestly address its $3.6 billion budget deficit and create a fiscal climate conducive to economic growth and job creation.”
And an anti-Walker email sent at least 674 times read, “The Capitol is the property of the people of Wisconsin and is supposed to function for the good and welfare of the people.” “
Mick commented:
Regardless of all the hoopla, what gives the unions the gaul to say the taxpayers should be giving their workers benefits far beyond what the taxpayers get?
The Unions are digging their own graves here. I’ll vote to get rid of all unions in a heartbeat.
These criminal thugs have no place in todays society.
Rock commented:
Brian commented:
Brian commented: #19 Truth stated : “When you take away the out of state emails you get to 55% in favor and 45%”
I looked at that source, and it looked like 55% to 42%, even distorting printed numbers to make it look closer than it was…and no matter how “truth” tries to spin it, out of state, in state…the majority still favored Gov Walker.
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Way to go Brian, libs will nickle and dime the truth till it ends up doing a 180. Beginning to think most are born feet first. Would sure explain their sh1? for brains thinking. But hey if sfb wishes to use his numbers, I hope he understands that WTFs win margin (52%/45%) fall short of Governor Walkers win margin that he use’s (55%/42%), and the left said WTF numbers where a mandate for the nation.
lyle commented:
When reading the mainstream media I always follow this Rule of Thumb. At every stage of every story, every reporter and every editor will put his thumb on the scale, and every thumb will be a left-liberal thumb.
If they count 62% an unbiased count would be higher. If they say say ‘mildly supportive’, an unbiased interpretation would be ‘enthusiastically supportive’. If you read the mainstream media without mentally compensating, you will be misinformed.
kansas commented:
The liberal media is so stunned they won’t report that either.
Rock commented:
lyle #29
In some quarters its called Kentucky windage. And of course you are correct. Reading between the lines, understanding what is left unsaid are all part and parcel of trying to find the truth.
Richard Aubrey commented:
Talked to a friend in Indiana. Said the state legislative dems from Indiana are also in Illinois. There is talk of raising the fine to $350/day.
Same reason as the WI dems; to preclude a quorum.
Old One commented:
Distorting facts and standing truth on its head be it inWisconsin or Paris during the murder & mayhem it perpetrated during Reign of Terror has been the hallmark of the left since the Jacobins. The modern left has been deluding itself for the entire 220 years since it first showed its vile vicious face, hateful nature, & totalitarian intent.
The American lunatic left has again tried to repakage itself using the Alinsky wrapper. Too bad the American public in Wisconsin and indeed across this vast land has awakened to the fact that the rhetoric of government employee unions and the demorat partyl despite its new purple union label and the Chicago style Aliskyite packaging is simply soiled relabeled tyranny & faux aristocrat totalitarianism that is more than 215 years past its sell by date.
MainStreet commented:
Throughout history, unions have served to elevate the living standards of the American working man. In times of limited government, the only recourse workers had was to band together and fight for what they thought was right. Conditions are no longer such that workers are alone. Government has grown to a point where its regulations are strangling businesses and unions have become overzealous to a point where companies are either closing down or moving to more friendly and receptive areas of the country.
If it weren’t for government bailouts, which are continuing today, the mighty US auto industry, would no longer be the force it once was on the world stage. Thanks to the unions, a new non-unionized Boeing plant is being built in Charleston, SC to produce its new 787 Dreamliner, which Everett, Washington so desperately wanted. For decades the northwest has been the hub of aircraft manufacturing; why now the change? The production of the Dreamliner is two years behind schedule due, in part, to crippling strikes by the union machinists. Boeing is willing to spend a $Billion to build a plant and train new workers to remove themselves from the high cost and crippling strikes caused by unions. Right to work laws have benefited the South.
Twenty-two states, including South Carolina, have “right to work” laws “which prohibit agreements between trade unions and employers making membership or payment of union dues or “fees” a condition of employment”. Union membership in these states have plummeted. This tells you that when government doesn’t dictate, unions have a difficult time justifying themselves to the worker.
Wisconsin is not a “right to work” state, and is suffering from aggressive public labor unions, with high salaries, benefits and suffocating work rules. FDR once wrote, “all Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management”
If you are a Republican, and a government union employee, you see much of your dues going to Democrat candidates who do not share your beliefs. These same Democrats vote to increase the power of the unions.
The Wisconsin unions, with the support of Obama’s campaign organization, not being able to compete with reason, have resorted to intimidation, death threats and thuggery to advance their cause. Democrat legislators fled the state, refusing to honor their commitment to the voters to represent them.
Gov. Scott Walker and his Republican legislature, having campaigned and won overwhelmingly, would have been negligent if they had not heeded the will of the voters and reined in the power and costs of the public unions.
The results of this email study show that the people of Wisconsin get it.
dunce commented:
They will not make this mistake again ,a union organized e-mail campaign will be part of their next protest. This irrelevant in any case, what counts and was counted were the votes in the last election.
Beachluver commented:
Liberal heads EXPLODING !!!!!! Woo HOO!!!! Now….how are we going to win this I suppose appeal that should be filed today I hope? Glad to hear Wisconsinites are standing with our brave Gov. I live in N.Y…and even though he’s a Dem…Cuoma is trying to clean up this corrupt Albany Govt….sooooo cudos to all patriot Gov.’s trying to do right thing.
bg commented:
++
Lamb: Where is the *Constitution?
[President Obama swore an oath to “...preserve, protect, and defend
the Constitution of the United States.” He should have sworn to obey
it.
Congress, alone, has the power to declare war, and to make all the laws necessary to engage in military conflict. The War Powers Act defines precisely what is required of the President before military action may commence.
President Obama launched 118 missiles and dropped 40 bombs
on Libya without a thought about Congress, or the Constitution.
He was quite concerned, however, about the United Nations. He hardly noticed the attacks on protesters until the United Nations Security Council approved a resolution authorizing the use of force against the Libyan government. Within hours after U.N. approval, the U.S. Military was engaged – without the knowledge or approval of Congress.
This event is proof-positive evidence of two staggering realities: Obama refuses to accept the limitations on government, and particularly on his office, imposed by the Constitution, and Obama considers the United Nations to be a higher authority than Congress.
This event should be grounds for severe
Congressional censure, if not impeachment.
When President Bush bombed Iraq, he had Congressional approval. Nevertheless, the left went berserk in protest, claiming that “Bush lied; people died.” In response to a question from a Boston Globe reporter, Obama said: “As President, I will not assert a constitutional authority to deploy troops in a manner contrary to an express limit imposed by Congress and adopted into law.” (Source: Boston Globe questionnaire on Executive Power Dec 20, 2007)
Obviously, Obama lied; people died. Where are the leftist protesters?
This issue is far more serious than simply pointing out again the duplicitous action (or inaction) of the progressive left. The fact that Obama disregarded the Constitution while submitting to the United Nations Security Council, and engaging the U.S. Military on the authority of a few leaders of other nations gathered in Paris, is behavior that cannot go unchallenged.
Obama's action is not simply endorsement
of global governance, it is submission to it.]
*albeit the Congressese read it, they obviously don’t get it, i however
believe it to have been a deliberate act of deception (aka: taqiyyah)..
[disclaimer: i agree with taking Qaddafi out, only i don't believe
that was the action taken, as they could not not try & protect
the people, but they could help Qaddaffi by pretending to..]
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bg commented:
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oops re: #37
sorry, posted in wrong thread..
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MetropolisReporter commented:
I live in Wisconsin. This does not surprise me. The per capita income in the state is under $27,000. Wisconsin public employee compensation averages $76,000. Taxpayers are angry and fed up!
JC commented:
You know, for “good Christian folk” such as yourselves, there’s an awful lot of hate for your fellow man being generated in here. Just sayin….
Momcat commented:
well, they had to qualify the findings that the number was bolstered by out of state e-mails, but didn’t say anything about out of state protesters. And then to add insult to injury, the state has to pay $7,000 – they don’t have any money….what part of that don’t they understand?
SturJen commented:
JC, if you had been in my family in the last month…well you would have seen more hate than you could imagine! The Union-Loving members of my family have essentially disowned the rest of us. We’re evil, greedy bastards that are stealing food from the mouths of their children. We are burning their fields, destroying their homes, causing their deaths. They have chosen to believe whatever their Unions tell them. Their choice is clear: Unions over family
So perhaps those Unions will do all the small things that brothers and sisters do for each other, but I’m betting they won’t. The Unions, however tell these family members that anything that happens to them now is our fault because we are evil.
These Unions have brainwashed the people into believing anything they want, down to turning their backs on their families. Hatred? I’m thinking that is the epitome of hatred: To turn brother against brother.
lyle commented:
JC commented:
You know, for “good Christian folk” such as yourselves, there’s an awful lot of hate for your fellow man being generated in here. Just sayin….
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JC,
You must be a victim of poor public schooling. I just re-read every comment. There’s disagreement with piggish government employee unions – big surprise – but where is the ‘awful lot of hate for your fellow man’?
Ordinary taxpaying citizens have to pay salaries and benefits of government employees who are wealthier than they are. Ordinary taxpaying citizens have to suffer the consequences of a state economy ruined by lavish government union contracts. Ordinary taxpaying citizens have to suffer reduced paychecks, unemployment, and shuttered businesses while government unions are protected.
We get it. Your sympathy is on the side of the wealthy and privileged government labor unions. But spare us the crap about Christianity and your fellow man.
maraz commented:
JUST A THOUGHT TO CONSIDER
Now that Liberal Media has all the emails… and they work for Obama – does this mean they are giving a list of all the email addresses for all the terrorist [a.k.a Tea Partiers]?
maraz commented:
GREAT!
The Obama administration can now accumulate a list of all the names, states and email addresses for those that oppose him and the Union goons.
Andreas K. commented:
62% vs 32%
THAT’S how democracy looks like, my dear left wingers.
JC commented:
“You know, for “good Christian folk” such as yourselves, there’s an awful lot of hate for your fellow man being generated in here. Just sayin….”
1) I’m not a Christian.
2) the “fellow man” who follows an ideology like socialism (more than 120 million dead in the 20th century) is not my “fellow man”
Rich Fallis commented:
I wrote the Governor twice expressing my opposition to his strategy, illegal tactics and serial lies. Specifically, I quoted Isaiah 58 2-3 concerning what happens to a society when it mistreats workers. Hint: it ain’t good.
The ‘violence’ you mention is laughable. Senator Grothman, said he never felt endangered and even expressed thanks for several members in the crowd who ensured there was no violence. Juxtapose that with the House of Representative members who were repeatedly refused entry to their offices by Walker goon cops, or in one case tackled and beaten to the pavement.
Ignoring perhaps a million people who cycled through the protests, it became apparent, particularly with the Governor’s arrogant bragging to the phone prankster ‘Koch’, that no amount of e-mails or logic or just plain old-fashioned Christian decency was going to have any effect. “Just send in your protest letters and put ‘em beside the shredder”. So if the numbers are skewed in favor of his actions, then you know why. We just gave up.
As a Christian, I am dismayed at how Mr. Walker’s actions degrade the faith, and I question just who this ‘trust and obey’ leader of ours is obeying. Did Jesus tell him to lie straight-faced and repeatedly?
I’m a 53 year-old white male. A conservative, who is sickened by the way the Governor has abused the word ‘conservative’ as his actions are more of what one might expect from a fascist than someone who believes in conserving the better parts of our social framework.
Clearly, Mr. Walker is a sociopath. Smooth, lying, caring nothing for people who just loves willing victims to yield to his will and control.
As the old saying goes, “You can put crap on my plate, but you can’t make me eat it.”
Ragin' Dave commented:
Rich Fallis, you are a liar and a con. Nobody was beaten by “Walker goon cops”. The Left, however, was captured on video repeatedly caught in acts of violence≥ Nobody was lied to by Gov. Walker, because Gov. Walker told everyone exactly what he was going to do when he was campaigning. The Left, however, lied repeatedly about it’s motives, about it’s actions, about the effects of the budget repair bill, and about it’s opponents.
You are nothing more than another useful idiot full of sound and fury. Good day, Sir.