Unreal… Team Obama Leaves Americans Stranded in Libya – THEY CHARTERED THE WRONG BOAT
Posted by Jim Hoft on Friday, February 25, 2011, 6:27 AM
(Bumped and Updated)
The Obama Administration won’t send the military to rescue US citizens in Libya.
They don’t want to look like war-mongers.
Stranded: An estimated 600 U.S. citizens are stuck on board the Maria Dolores (pictured) in Tripoli, and won’t leave until at least Friday (Daily Mail)
The Obama Administration is STILL grappling with whether or not to send the military into Libya to rescue US citizens.
CNN reported, via HotAir:
The senior U.S. official also said the “prudent planning” for military options centers around the president’s priorities of protecting U.S. citizens and interests and stopping the violence against Libyan civilians. He cautioned against thinking the U.S. military “was about to storm the beaches,” but he also declined to specifically rule out the use of military force.
So far, the State Department has not requested the U.S. military to assist in the evacuation of civilians from Libya, which would be required for the military to get involved in that operation.
Several U.S. officials have confirmed to CNN there is a vigorous debate inside the administration about whether to involve the military because of concern it could cause further provocations by the Libyan regime.
UPDATE: They charted the wrong boat. It was too small!
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Alonzo commented:
Think back to 2007-2008, when we were told that Obama was some kind of Messiah, the smartest and most pragmatic politician on the face of the planet.
Do you suppose the Obama groupies feel even slightly embarrassed at how stupid they were?
Slim Shavings commented:
This guy is and unmitigated disaster and failure. the question is will the country survive the last 21 months of this bunch
Skinner commented:
well the Marines already sacked the place once before…
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Chisum commented:
Alonzo,
In answer to your question, the answer is no. They’re too busy calling all the non-believers racists.
olm commented:
Incompetent
Hedgehog commented:
#2; While I agree that The Kenyan Communist is an unmitigated disaster, he is far from a failure. He is an empty suit who is doing the bidding of the Communists and Muslims who want to create chaos, and so bring down the United States of America. He is a traitor. He is a criminal and should be impeached, prosecuted and removed from office.
L.E. Liesner commented:
Only a fool would believe that Obama would have the best interest or safety of the Americans in Libya bother him. An egotist only has one interest, himself and the sooner the American people understand this the sooner we will be rid of him.
Muffin commented:
Stunning incompetence. And completely uninterested in anyone’s well-being, other than his own.
tarpon commented:
Obama feels like an impotent dweeb.
GP Loves Obama commented:
There is a mixup. GP Thinks Obama cares about Americans. You cannot be soooo wrong.
DomesticGoddess commented:
Obama fiddled while (everything) burned!
tommy mc donnell commented:
i think that obama is incompetent but but i think bad intentions have more to do with the havoc he has caused over these last two years.
Jackie commented:
Leave the little boy alone, he is busy with his MoTown concert and party and when he can fit those Americans in Libya in his “schedule”, I’m sure he will get right to it….. If we survive this disaster of a President, I hope someone would do a new soap opera, called …. As The World Burns or something.
Big L commented:
Looks like Dunkirk or I wonder if it will lok like the evac of the Embassy in Saigon with people hanging on the side? Sending a yacht to pick up American citizens.
Deekaman commented:
Obama again votes “present”.
justasimplepatriot commented:
PRESENT!!!!!!!!
czekmark commented:
Heck, Obama doesn’t have time for these annoying international imcidents. He has a re-election campaign to run.
Zilla of the Resistance commented:
He’s too busy partying to be bothered with such a trivial thing as American citizens trapped in a hostile region. At least Carter seemed to actually give a sh*t the last time we faced such a situation. Sure, he was totally incompetent, but his failures didn’t seem deliberate, aside from his anti-Semitism.
Stephen Morgan commented:
The worthless bastard is going to tool around until someone over there gets the idea to grab the Americans as hostages… it’s going to happen…
Jess commented:
Well, given the choice of hang’n w/the Motown Celebration or making tough decisions w/Americans in danger…
What did you expect he’d do?
LL commented:
PEACE through superior firepower.
Charlie commented:
I think Mattel is going to come out with an Obama GI Joe Inaction figure, complete his signature equipment consisting of a chair and a teleprompter. Batteries won’t be included because Obama won’t need batteries, as he never moves. The set will also include a small American flag sticker so kids can play “Pin the Flag on the President”, a takeoff on the classic children’s game.
Catherine commented:
There are heavy seas they are a rocken and a rollen
tell Granny bho lied again?
http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/23/news/economy/shutdown_social_security/
Social Security is safe in a federal shutdown
By Charles Riley, staff reporterFebruary 24, 2011: 7:05 AM
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) — What happens to Social Security if the government shuts down?
“People don’t get their Social Security checks.” That was President Obama at a press conference last week
And this is Harry Reid, the top Democrat in the Senate, in a statement on Tuesday: “A shutdown could … mean no Social Security checks for seniors.”
The Democrats are saber rattling, hoping to portray Republicans as irresponsible. And the claim has been repeated by other top Democrats.
Here’s the rub: It doesn’t appear to be true.
During the last major shutdown, which lasted about a month starting in late 1995, the Social Security Administration mailed checks throughout the crisis, and a close reading of established law makes clear the agency has the legal authority to do so again.
“I am absolutely sure the checks would be sent out,” said John F. Cooney, a partner at law firm Venable who designed shutdown plans for the government while employed at the Office of Management and Budget.
read the rest and yes this was from cnn who whould have thunk??
Catherine
Naan commented:
Obviously no significant democrat contributor is in Libya currently.
Patrick commented:
don’t be so hard on him, you know he can’t lead, its to scary for him, he might get his ego bruised
thegoldman commented:
This country really feels much safer now that obie is in charge. NOT
Conservative Ken commented:
Damn! What happened to the Barack Obama who led the SEAL Team and single handedly shot the Somali Pirates in 2009.
I honestly cannot tell if anyone is in charge at the White House. Who’s making decisions?
kansas commented:
Wait a few weeks, all Americans will be dead, and Obama will say that killing them was unacceptable. If he can find time in his schedule.
Noah commented:
Obama is a complete tool and dull tool. He can’t lead his hand to a bag of chips..
Granny commented:
#25 – RE that Federal Shutdown
I could have told you that. I was a Federal employee during the last shutdown. Staff of the VA hospitals still get paid along with other employees deemed critical, SS checks still go out.
maynard commented:
What stranded Americans?? Pass me some more of those low calorie pork ribs and let’s get ready for some Motown!!
Granny commented:
For the first time in living memory, I am proud of our Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders!
When he found that the souvenirs at the Smithsonian are all Made In China he went ballistic! Good on Bernie!
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/made-america-smithsonian-capitol-merchandise-shops/story?id=12992197
Jerry M commented:
A British warship is in the port of Benghazi today rescuing British and US citizens while the piece of garbage we have in the White House is twiddling his thumbs. What a disaster and joke we have for a President and what a laughing stock he is to the rest of the world.
bitterclinger commented:
Not only would Ogabe and Pant Suit say the murder of Americans in Libya was unacceptable, I bet a strongly worded letter would follow! Maybe even a sanction by the UN!
I honestly think nothing like this even enters his warped commie brain. He’s got tunnel vision solely for ushering in chaos and the NWO, complete with Sharia Law for the US.
Chisum commented:
The BO administration claims that the Americans stranded on the Ferry are safe because the Libyan forces are protecting them.
Riiiight.
Truck Driver Divorce commented:
President Palin better come out and give another speech again. Maybe something will get done. God knows this Marxist Community Organizer can’t decide whether to put ketchup or mustard on a sandwich without his teleprompter.
Isn’t Obama sitting at some Motown concert right about now? Probably hasn’t even thought about the Middle East in days.
tammycracker commented:
Impeach this SOB.
yourealldumb commented:
They can’t leave because of high seas…there is no need for the military
Chisum commented:
CNN Still Searching for Praise of Pharaoh Obama on the Arab Street
RUSH: To the audio sound bites. Anderson Cooper’s turn. Last week it was Nic Robertson, a couple of weeks ago, whatever it was, that poor old Nic was in Egypt in the belly of the beast attempting to drum up support for President Obama. Well, it’s Anderson Cooper’s turn. Last night on CNN, Anderson Cooper 19 spoke with an unidentified Libyan woman about anti-government violence in Libya. Government violence against protesters. She said, “Why do you continue to report?”
WOMAN: I will tell you something. The Libyan public are angry from the statement was given by President Obama today. Everybody was disappointed.
RUSH: Oh, no! CNN goes over hoping to find a lot of love for Obama in the Arab world, and they didn’t find any. “The Libyan public are angry from the statement given by Obama today. Everybody was disappointed.” Cooper says, “What? You think he didn’t go far enough?”
WOMAN: No. I was expecting him commenting about the black people and the European — Eastern European people — recruited to contribute in this massacre. It’s nonsense. I thought that he gonna give even threats or warning for this to stop. I expected more, to be honest. I expected to read between the lines from his speech. I did not see that. I was very disappointed. Everybody was disappointed. I want Americans to support us!
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_022411/content/01125109.guest.html
annie p commented:
Whoa. We can send in the military? Cool. I’ll do it just as soon as I am done jammin’ with Sheryl Crow.
Airon Later commented:
Way to over-simplify what is ultimately far too complex for even the most educated amongst you.
That’s the answer to everything these days outside America – just send in the military, guns blazing, and singing The Battle Hymn of the Republic!!! It’s a fool proof plan!!!!
Spare me……
HorendoRevolver commented:
I bet Jimmy Carter is feeling like Einstein right about now…..hehehe
Catherine commented:
Just thought of something maybe the Americans are code pink or some other lefties?
Catherine
Remember they were in Egypt?
Jackie commented:
How much longer can we put up with this idiot??
annie p commented:
Well, Airon Later, what would you do? Send in the LGBT?
tommy mc donnell commented:
hey he didn’t send them there. why should he have to get them out. the man is busy.
Airon Later commented:
#47 annie p
Well that’s precisely the point, I don’t claim to have all the answers to everything that happens outside our country – nor do I claim to have the answers for every domestic issue. This is something the modern American Right needs to realize; that over simplification and reactionary posturing doesn’t solve the problem, but only serves to create another. I would love to play you guys in chess, as you obviously have a “one move” mentality.
Mark1957 commented:
Yes Airon, that is what the Navy is for, like when we sent them to Haiti after the earthquake, or when we sent them to Samatra after the Tsunami, and there are ships on there way to New Zealand as we speak to help those in need there. God Bless the U.S. Navy because they help out nations in dire straits when they are called.
Luke commented:
Ehe military doesnt always go in with guns blazing…. someone has seen too many hollywood movies… if obama had any brains he would send in a covert team to pluck them in the middle of the night and nobody would know they where gone till the next morning… but he would have to have a memeber hanging from between his legs, and hilary removed that just like she did bill… oboma u suck and all ur supporters are as bright as burned out light bulbs!
Alonzo commented:
Way to over-simplify[sic] what is ultimately far too complex for even the most educated amongst you.
That’s the answer to everything these days outside America – just send in the military, guns blazing, and singing The Battle Hymn of the Republic!!! It’s a fool proof plan!!!!
Behold the self-negating post. This idiot accuses people of oversimplifying (even though he can’t spell the word) and then instantly gives us a child’s view of the conservative mindset.
This is why you get no traffic on your silly little blog.
Airon Later commented:
#50 Mark
You’re missing one glaringly obvious point – you highlighted instances where our armed forces were sent to assist after a NATURAL DISASTER. Now, I’m guessing your at least marginally intelligent enough to know the difference between an earthquake and an unstable military presence in a country that just might not have the best interest in our citizens or armed forces in mind.
Secondly to #51 Luke
Oh, so I’M the one that’s seen to many movies? Yeah, it’ll be just like that Steven Segal movie where they take the stealth fighter and attach it to the bottom of the aircraft. No one would suspect a thing. Now THERE’S a great plan………..
Luke commented:
airon u and the prez have alot in common… ya both have your heads up ur arse and dont have a clue… but that is to be expected from someone who calls for change, not knowing what that change was… ha morons…. hope u all love it
i do, because when obama leves office in about 2 years there will not be a democrat left on office anywhere… then maybe we can fix this country for real…
Elmer Fudd commented:
Stupid is as Stupid does.
Airon Later commented:
#52 Alonzo
Ah, a tried and true tactic when having to face an opponent online. Find the first grammatical error and make that the rationalization why you are morally and intellectually superior.
Secondly, my illustration of what you refer to as the “conservative mindset” was intentionally “child-like” because that mindset is in point of fact, well, child-like.
Luke commented:
airon….. hmmm well if he does grow a set and let the men do there jobs… it will be one of those things that u will never know about, and the heroes that will put there lives on the line will never be recognized for the valor…. but u know nothing about any of that it seams… but dont worry one thing about brothers in arms is that we are use to saving cowards and weanies like u everyday… we dont expect u to understand, but we do expect a bit more from our commander n chief…
Corona commented:
Hell, O can’t be thinkin’ ’bout all that sh*t. Got a b*tchin’ Motown Party at his crib tonight!
Mark1957 commented:
Airon# 53
No sir, you are the one missing the point, we send our military to various countries for many reasons other than attacking the populace, often times to evacuate people in harms way, other times to bring aid.
Now, why do you feel the need to insult everyone that you respond to?
Alonzo commented:
Now, I’m guessing your at least marginally intelligent enough to know the difference between an earthquake and an unstable military presence in a country that just might not have the best interest in our citizens or armed forces in mind.
What in the world does this gobbledygook mean? If there’s an “unstable military presence,” then we’re not supposed to use our armed forces to protect our own citizens? Why? Because Libya might attack our carrier battle group or our Marine Expeditionary Unit?
Do you have even the slightest clue what would happen to the Libyan forces if they tried that? Or are you one of these buffoons who prattles away about the invincibility of the “elite Republican Guard” and the “elite Revolutionary Guard” and whatever other Third World goon squad you have a crush on? It’s funny that when we mop the earth with them, you never once say, “Gosh, I was totally wrong! Those guys posed no threat at all!”
Being a leftist means never admitting to screwing up…
Alonzo commented:
Secondly, my illustration of what you refer to as the “conservative mindset” was intentionally “child-like” because that mindset is in point of fact, well, child-like.
Your childlike illustration is a product of your own childish imagination. It’s called a “straw man.” It’s how cretins argue.
And don’t blame me for your spelling errors. You’re the one presenting yourself as a slumming intellectual. If you’re going to pat yourself on the back for being superior to everyone here, you should at the very least not make elementary spelling errors.
wanumba commented:
Gun-blazing is the ONLY way to deal with Libya. Jefferson, Madison, Theodore Roosevelt. It’s EASY. Carter failed on covert ops, avoid like the plague on such things. It’s full-face hand them over or bombardment starts at 9 am. Stupid liberals don’t even “get” it that most of the time no one gets killed and all the hostages are instantly released. From the end of a primed cannon, holding a lit taper, Commodore Decatur even demanded per diem payments for each hostage for each day in capitivity and got it in 1816. Amazing how well people cooperate with death hanging over them.
Our military should be up front NOW evacuating our citizens. The Libyans are quite OCCUPIED with OTHER matters. The cold-hearted, incompetent Democrats will have blood on their hands if they dither and whinge and spend their time crapping their pants instead of using our national resources in the US military to remove Americans from harm’s way.
About ten years ago, President Bush quickly sent US troops to rescue American children at a boarding school in Ivory Coast that was caught in the cross-fire of rebel forces. It was an AWESOME feeling to have when seeing our military roaring in to evacuate those students. What Obama is doing is making people feel sick with fear that he just doesn’t care about human beings, not even his own felow citizens.
http://sonoranalliance.com/2011/02/23/the-new-barbary-coast-muslim-piracy-2011-somalia-and-the-horn-of-africa/
Airon Later commented:
#58 Mark
I certainly know how the American Armed Forces have operated in the past in relation to a whole host of issues. The point is, and as I pointed out earlier, you can’t just use reactionary military force because you have a military, as missions require at least a minimal amount of planning. But to that end, the modern American Right thinks that the Obama administration should have already laid out plans for what could possibly happen 13 months, 1 week, and 21 hours from now in South America. I know that will likely sound odd to many of you, but that is precisely how you all think, that Obama should have some psychic ability and be able to predict all type of potential situations on the world stage and react with lightning speed.
Luke commented:
do u really think they would send in a carrier battle group to rescue 600 people? there are far cheaper ways to do this…. first off, what do u think the seal teams are for? second off, do u think the libians want to mess with a us carrier battle group when they cant even control there own citizens… im sure if obama said hey we are sending in some sf (special forces) guys to grab our people im sure that the libians would keep there distance… but its not really about how it would be done, the ? is when is the man gonna give the word, so the deed will be done before its too late?
Airon Later commented:
#60 Alonzo
It means precisely what it means. Feigning ignorance only makes you look even more foolish than you already look.
Alonzo commented:
It means precisely what it means. Feigning ignorance only makes you look even more foolish than you already look.
Yes, I look foolish by pointing out that you write misspelled gibberish in an attempt to come across as a towering intellect.
Airon Later commented:
Also, #61 Alonzo…..
It’s not a “straw man” at all – it’s a metaphorical mirror. You reaction shows that you obviously don’t like what you see.
Luke commented:
yes airon, obama should have people in his cabinet that keep in touch with people around the globe to keep a feel for what is going on outside of our borders… its all part of national security, but since he doesnt talk to the majority of his cabinet…. its pointless…. like its pointless to talk to explain to u that it doesnt take but a matter of hrs to put a rescue plan into place and act on it…. the military is spread out all over the globe just for reasons like this… put a team on a bird, drop them off out at sea, they swim to shore dispatch who ever is holding the ship and sail off out to sea to the support of naval vessels staged….
Alonzo commented:
But to that end, the modern American Right thinks that the Obama administration should have already laid out plans for what could possibly happen 13 months, 1 week, and 21 hours from now in South America. I know that will likely sound odd to many of you, but that is precisely how you all think, that Obama should have some psychic ability and be able to predict all type of potential situations on the world stage and react with lightning speed.
Another retarded straw man. The person with genuine convictions addresses his opponents’ actual arguments. By continuing to misrepresent what your opponents say, you admit that you have no actual ability to engage or debate.
Like Obama, you’re transparently dishonest because you’re out of ammunition.
Mark1957 commented:
Airon #63
“I certainly know how the American Armed Forces have operated in the past”
You might think that you know, but obviously you have never served in any branch or you would know of all the good things our military does in a peaceful capacity. You seem to only be getting the Daily kos, code pink and Huffy Poop versions of the news. So just STFU.
Alonzo commented:
It’s not a “straw man” at all – it’s a metaphorical mirror.
A comforting fantasy. It’s hard to admit that you’re incapable of defending your silly positions.
Airon Later commented:
#68 Luke
“A matter of hours” to “put a plan into place”……..interesting point of view
Reagan’s response to the terrorist attack on our Marine’s in Beruit —– Leave; and then attack Grenada
Bush’s response to 9/11 —- give Al Queda a BIG head start and having no clear objective; and then attack Iraq
……and there’s more examples from your side.
Airon Later commented:
#69 Alonzo
Simply calling all of my responses a “straw man” only accomplishes one thing for you – not having to address my statement regarding your clearly enumerated standpoints. It’s the easy way, I know, but for a person that claims to have such convictions and moral and political superiority, you would think that you could do better than that.
Airon Later commented:
#70 Mark
No, I have never served, but that – despite your inability to reconcile it – doesn’t mean that I don’t know the history of our military. Your anger laced rebuttal is part and parcel of what your socio-political ilk embrace.
Alonzo commented:
Simply calling all of my responses a “straw man” only accomplishes one thing for you – not having to address my statement regarding your clearly enumerated standpoints.
Wrong, dummy. I’m pointing out that you’re not engaging in honest debate. By claiming that conservatives want to go in with guns blazing, singing the “Battle Hymn of the Republic,” you’re proving that like Obama, you can’t argue without distorting your opponents’ viewpoints. That means that you’re incapable of providing a rational rebuttal of what your opponents are suggesting.
It’s a form of admitting defeat.
Airon Later commented:
#75 Projection, thy name be Alonzo
Alonzo commented:
Bush’s response to 9/11 —- give Al Queda a BIG head start and having no clear objective; and then attack Iraq
Yes, Bush should have ignored what all 16 intelligence agencies told him in 2002. He should have ignored Congress’s calls to do something about Iraq. He should have ignored the warnings given to us by the intelligence agencies of Britain, France, Germany, Russia, Israel, Jordan, and Egypt.
Attacking Iraq has no historical context whatsoever. It was a just a crazy notion that came out of the blue. All the cool kids say so.
Alonzo commented:
Projection, thy name be Alonzo
How old are you, eight?
“I know you are, but what am I? I’m rubber, you’re glue, bounces off of me and sticks to you!”
Really unimpressive showing here tonight.
CrackerMike commented:
I’m not worried about it and neither is Obama. The Moslems will begin to bask in Obama’s glow any second now. Any second! Couric and Williams have deemed it so.
Airon Later commented:
#77 Alonzo
Really, “no historical context”?
Well, you guys have been really keen to put as much distance between that failed military operation between you and your Good Ole Drinkin Buddy Bush for a couple of years now – considering the momentary success of the “surge” – the 5th one in Iraq, mind you – was exactly that – momentary.
Also, per your #78, show me one average eight year old that knows and understands my accurate portrayal of you and I’ll be seriously surprised
Alonzo commented:
Well, you guys have been really keen to put as much distance between that failed military operation between you and your Good Ole Drinkin Buddy Bush for a couple of years now – considering the momentary success of the “surge” – the 5th one in Iraq, mind you – was exactly that – momentary.
No idea what this means. If you’re trying to claim that Operation Iraqi Freedom was a failure, it just proves that you have no blooming clue what you’re talking about. You call yourself a “pundit,” but all you do is regurgitate boilerplate leftist talking points. That’s not punditry; it’s being a tape recorder. Or a parrot.
Rides A Pale Horse commented:
I can think of another “glow” I’d rather see them basking in………..
Airon Later commented:
#81 Alonzo
Alright, here’s your chance to shine.
How have we “succeeded” in Iraq?
How did the “awakening” in Iraq really happen?
Did “De-Bathification” have any negative impacts to America’s intent?
What specifically were the WMDs that were found?
Was the shoe thrown at Bush made in America or India?
GO!!!!
hahahahahahaha
Jess commented:
They can’t leave because of high seas…
Riiight. A few second’s work on the intarwebs finds current weather conditions – 11 knot winds, partly cloudy skies, and 1 meter waves.
This is “high seas”??? To what, and “Old Town” brand canoe?
Alonzo commented:
How have we “succeeded” in Iraq?
How did the “awakening” in Iraq really happen?
Did “De-Bathification” have any negative impacts to America’s intent?
What specifically were the WMDs that were found?
Was the shoe thrown at Bush made in America or India?
Iraq is a democracy that no longer poses a threat to the U.S.
The awakening began when U.S. Marines and Army officers contacted Sunni insurgents and asked them if they were willing to turn against al Qaeda.
The de-Baathification process was insisted upon by the Shi’ites and Kurds, who make up about 80 percent of the Iraqi population. It was unavoidable.
No stockpiles of WMD were found, but for some reason hundreds of artillery sites had massive supplies of insecticides, which have the same chemical makeup as the banned WMD.
There were two shoes thrown at Bush.
Airon Later commented:
#85 Alonzo
And thank you for proving your ignorance…………..likely blind ignorance
Except for the “shoe” point, as that was a trick question……and the only one you got right.
Alonzo commented:
And thank you for proving your ignorance…………..likely blind ignorance
Absolutely! Iraq isn’t a democracy, and it still poses a threat to us.
The Shi’ites and Kurds didn’t demand de-Baathification.
And so on. Down is up; black is white; freedom is slavery; war is peace.
Simply saying something makes it true!
Tonyknuckles @113tidbits commented:
We’ve done this before
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sharp_Edge
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/silver_anvil.htm
IOpian commented:
A Thomas Jefferson he is not. Even Jimmy Carter at least tried.
AuntieMadder commented:
And to think that just a few weeks ago Time magazine tried to sell this Jimmeh Carter Part Deux as the second coming of Ronald Reagan, the man who threatened to put his boot so far up Iran’s @$$ that they released the Americans they held hostage under Carter’s watch after Reagan was elected POTUS but before his inauguration.
JPeden commented:
Airon Later commented:
How have we “succeeded” in Iraq?
You’re right, Airon, Obama’s going to find a way to lose there, too: Si se pueda!
tommy mc donnell commented:
alonso the reason airon likes the baath party is because they were marxists.
annie p commented:
Bring it on AIRON LATER.
I have a Master’s Degree in Physics. I am NOT a cupcake. Blonde yes, but no cupcake.
NC Cop commented:
#86: Notice how Airon doesn’t provide a shred of proof to counter the claims, he simply dismisses him as ignorant. If Airon knew half as much as he thought he did, he wouldn’t be quite as amusing.
Apparently, Airon, the British thought enough of their citizens to send in their military.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8346608/Libya-SAS-drafted-in-to-rescue-hundreds-of-Britons.html
“Nearly 500 Britons were successfully repatriated throughout the day after three RAF Hercules transport aircraft and a Royal Navy frigate were pressed into action.
The Daily Telegraph has learnt that special forces were on the ground in Tripoli to ensure the evacuation of all British nationals went smoothly.
SAS officers offered support and advice to private security firms drafted in to rescue more than 170 oil workers stranded in remote desert compounds.”
It must be nice when a government cares about it’s citizens.
MikeMose commented:
Obama has sacrificed 600 American citizens to his Islamic god!
Obama should be handed to the terrorist in exchange for the 600 citizens!
dwd commented:
SMART POWER
FaceInTheCrowd commented:
Anyone who thinks that rescue boat is too small is obviously a RACIST.
olm commented:
Same as yesterday and all the previous yesterdays and same as tomorrow.
Obama is incompetent.
Don’t bother with Airhead Later. He is a flame thrower and that’s it. Kind of like Obama, no substance whatsoever.
Airon Later commented:
#96 annie p
Great, you have a Masters in Physics. I never intended to debate you on “matter and motion” nor would I desire to. I also did NOT address you in any sexist way, although you thought it needed to be brought up. Your baiting trick isn’t working…………..
Trish commented:
#1 February 24, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Alonzo commented:
Think back to 2007-2008, when we were told that Obama was some kind of Messiah, the smartest and most pragmatic politician on the face of the planet.
Do you suppose the Obama groupies feel even slightly embarrassed at how stupid they were?
Yup- the smartest president EVAH!
I cannot imagine what we’d be witnessing if he were dumb as a stump.
I don’t think the vast left wing moronity see him as we do- I think they are so in love, they can’t find fault with their messiah.
ss252 commented:
Airon is a Administration plant?
No way anyone with a smidge of real intelligence could support this totally incapable POTUS?
Even Clinton would have made better decisions?
The scary thing is outside of a few places in the Media, you dont have any Major outlets reporting on this , unbelievable?
But they all can muster up the exact same though almost verbatim that WI. is paralell to The Egypt uprising? The libs have seriously gone off their rails, and they are collapsing through utter ignorance daily..
Rhinestone Suderman commented:
Wow, Airon knows exactly how the American military should have conducted itself in past years! Woot! Maybe Airon should be president! Airon, all-knowing leader of the world!
So, Airon, you’re in favor of just abandoing American citizens, in Libya?
Like most leftists, you really don’t care who gets hurt; you just care about your “team.”
Rhinestone Suderman commented:
Jeekers, I wonder where Airon, and all the other compassionate liberals were, when Iran was rising up against the mullahs?
Ahh, can’t support Iran. . . that would be imperialistic, and, anyway, this regime—and all the Airons in it—support the Islamists.
Airon, don’t you have a Mo’Town party to go to?
Airon Later commented:
#106 Rhinestone
Not only is your comment a complete misrepresentation of my posts here, but it is in fact a lie.
You obviously can’t read and understand the English language.
Rhinestone Suderman commented:
Airon probably hates all Americans, anyway; dumb rednecks, donchaknow, not worth helping. . .
His political position is, and probably always will be, Obama is all-perfect, and can do no wrong, Amerikkka is evil and it doesn’t matter who gets hurt, long as the Left comes out on top. The “Revolution” and all that. .. blah, blah, blah, you’re all RAAAAAAACIST, AND STOOOPIT, HALP, CHE GUEVERA!” Over and out.
Rhinestone Suderman commented:
Heh, Airon. . I see what you are only too clearly.
(Now, tell us how America SHOUD handle its military affairs, oh Fearless Leader!)
Rhinestone Suderman commented:
Airon, Obama is the president.
Isn’t it kinda his job to lay out plans about South America, the Middle-East and all the rest of the world—especially if, in the case of the Middle-East, that place is now a hot spot of riots and insurrection and hatred for the U.S.? I mean, c’mon, like he shouldn’t have been concerned about American citizens there from Day One?
(Oh, yeah, sorry; I forgot; OBAMA CAN DO NO WRONG! JUST SHUT UP AND STOP CRITICIZING HIM! Okay, Fearless Leader, viva la Revalucion, and all that.)
Wm T Sherman commented:
Still can’t get them out?
This really is starting to look intentional.
Rhinestone Suderman commented:
How is it “over simplification” to say that our nation should rescue its citizens, stranded in a hostile foreign country? Do you really think it’s a good idea to leave them there, so they can all get killed, or held hostage by a government trying to wring concessions from America?
(No, no, that’s just CRITICIZING OBAMA! YOU MUST NEVER, EVER, CRITICIZE OBAMA! Sorry, I forgot. . . )
Rhinestone Suderman commented:
Sherman, I think it is intentional.
If it isn’t intentional, than it’s downright waffling, and stupid!
Obama’s supporters can take their pick.
(Myself, I suspect it’s intentional.)
Rhinestone Suderman commented:
I mean, they can’t even charter a boat that’s the right size for the Mediterranean? I mean, the Mediterranean’s been around a long, long, time, like they shoudn’t know what sort of boat is best for it, by this time?
Taqiyyotomist commented:
#108 smacks of taqiyya as I’ve come to understand it. No explanations, no actual rebuttals, just evidence of a game of “outwitting” for an audience.
Muslims and Leftists use the same “debate” technique, though leftists are largely unaware of this fact. Muslims call it taqiyya. Taqyya is a well-honed tactic used in public debates that relies less on logic and reason than it does on semantic tricks. Leftists don’t call it anything, they just naturally do it the same way the Muslims have been trained for centuries to do it. There is a reason for this seemingly coincidental use of the same “playbook” — they both come from the Devil, master of deception.
Muslims teach and practice taqiyya, to the point where it becomes an “artform”. Leftists just have it “in them”. It’s in their nature. Both have the same Father.
Wm T Sherman commented:
Quo vadis?
Why are they being stranded there? Every other outside country has gotten its people out, including China, which is not famous for worrying about the well-being of its citizens.
What’s the purpose?
donh commented:
According to Oliver North we just don’t have any military capabilities in this part of the world. For the first time in some 30 years we do not have an aircraft carrier in the Mediterranian Sea, and it is rapidly becoming the Med-Iranian Sea.
Rhinestone Suderman commented:
Taqiyyotomost, I think it’s also the Left/Alinsky thing, i.e., when you have no real arguments or rebuttals, just start slinging insults, and accusations.
He’s also trying the shift-the-goalposts trick, trying to change the subject of the discussion to Booosh the evil, Iraq and American foreign policy in general—anything to keep us from asking why our government can’t rescue 600 of its own citizens, who have been left hanging, with only a too-small ferry boat to come their (uncertain) rescue.
Gini commented:
The difference between G.W. Bush and Obama has never been stronger; Bush gave up golf as he thought it reflected poorly on him to play whilst we were at war, Obama threw a bash last night at the Wite House for Motown whilst Libya boils and American citizens are not evacuated due to his total incompetency.
I’ve said it a thousand times but repeat, Obama is more than a disaster, he is dangerous!
Rhinestone Suderman commented:
Sherman, I’m not sure exactly what the purpose is, though I’m beginning to suspect it’s intentional. (They didn’t know to get a boat the right size? Come on. . . )
It could be that he’s more concerned about protecting Islamic sensibilities, than he is our citizens? If 600 Americans have to die, so Moslems won’t feel threatened by the US presence. . . so be it! (His thinking, not mine.) It could be, he’s hoping to intervene militarily, maybe on behalf of his buddy, Qaddafi (who has ties to his old pastor, Jeremiah Wright.)
If it’s not intentional, then the only other answer is stupidity, and incompetence; Obama supporters can take their pick.
donh commented:
Since the passage of DADT repeal Barny Frank has rechartered our fairy Boats to invade Fire Island…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2pIjzxp8Tg
Wm T Sherman commented:
My suspicion is not just raised by the too small boat fiasco. That is jsut the latest in a series of odd occurences.
Before this, the story was that weather on the Mediterranean was not good enough for transit – although the weather was actually not so bad.
And from the beginning, and all along, the military has not even been asked to stand by at a discreet distance for emergency evacuation in case things suddenly go bad.
I smell BS. I don’t know why they are doing this, but at this point it’s pretty obvious to me that the State Department and the Executive Branch want those people right where they are.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
#119 Rhinestone
Moving the goalposts is one trick of many in the practice of taqiyya. There are many others that everyone here should be familiar with: shifting definitions of terms — or outright refusal to accept any common definitions of terms (such as “communism” and “socialism”) (e.g. “Those countries you mentioned weren’t really communist, or weren’t really socialist, so obviously you don’t know what you’re talking about); accusations of racism or sexism; going completely off-topic in order to derail the debate; tu quoque (“you do it too”) with no sense of perspective, nor of scale…..
…and many, many more.
Here is a fairly well-written, though by no means exhaustive. guide to Muslim taqiyya. See if you can spot similarities (uncanny, at that) between Muslim taqiyya and Leftist debate tactics.
http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2007/10/taqiyya-religious-deception.html
The practitioners rely on distortion of language and definition, and on semantic trickery. In the absence of logic, reason, facts, and truth, it’s really all they have.
timwi commented:
http://online.wsj.com/community/groups/question-day-229/topics/should-state-employees-have-collective-bargaining
Rhinestone Suderman commented:
Thanks for the link, Taqiyyomotist!
Sherman, yes, I smell BS, too! Could it be that, for whatever reason, they want a replay of the Iranian hostage crisis, under Carter? Could Saudi influence be mixed up in this, somehow? (The State Department seems to be pretty much working for them, these days.) Is Obama going to try and re-instate Gaddafi?
I don’t know, but the whole thing is starting to look deliberate. This thing has been going on for some time, they couldn’t get the Americans out long before this? (And Obama took 9 days, to make even a mild statement about it?)
Taqiyyotomist commented:
Tu quoque, tactic of Lefties and Muslims, sons of the Deceiver:
If one Righty did something bad in the last twenty years, which thing a Lefty has done, at the minimum, once per week for the last twenty years, then both are equivalent. The same.
If one religion did bad thing ~400 years ago, then reformed and stopped doing those things, which thing another religion has been doing for twice as long without reforming or stopping, then both are equivalent. The same.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
It would be the BEST. THING. EVER…..
If the Brits or the French rescued our citizens in Libya.
Wouldn’t it? Would it not make you smile?
Auntie Em commented:
What an absolute dimwit!!!
Someone get the fool a dunce cap and ride him around on the back of a pig.
Impeachment better be in the works!!!!!!!!
Taqiyyotomist commented:
Auntie Em
Lee Rodgers had something to say in today’s post (a must-read, every day) about the “impeachment” cries heard for the last couple of years:
“By the way… one of my most teeth-grinding experiences, oft repeated, is reading opinions that Obama’s many acts of malfeasance call for his impeachment. For those who missed it in high school civics (or government) class, impeachment calls for–first–indictment by the House, then conviction by the Senate. The Senate is still controlled by Democrats who would never cast such a vote, doubtless joined by several RINOs. It’s not in the cards.”
http://www.radiorodgers.com/index.html
I’ve got that bookmarked and read it daily. Welcome back, Lee!
Shawna Forde commented:
I’m saddened by and ashamed of my fellow Conservatives. This is the first time in my life that I’ve seen them cheering for endangerment and destruction of Americans on foreign soil. My prayer is that the people posting on this website are foreign enemies of America.
olm commented:
WHAT? Shawna? Anyone home.
You either are not a conservative or you didn’t read.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
#131 Shawna
What?? Who here “cheer”ed for “endangerment and destruction of Americans on foreign soil”??
Are you okay? WE WANT THEM TO BE RESCUED, AND THAT IS THE COMPLAINT: OUR ADMINISTRATION IS LEAVING THEM TO THEIR FATE! What kind of filter are you reading through, that you do not see this?
donh commented:
” This is the first time in my life that I’ve ” dead give away line that Shawna Forde is a Michelle Obama lackey.
Reno_Dave commented:
Obama forgot, or never heard, the immortal words of Chief Brody, from the movie, “Jaws”:
“You’re gonna need a bigger boat”.
Granny commented:
We sent the US Navy to rescue our citizens from Lebanon in 2006 – including a number of “US citizens” who had never in their lives set foot in the United States. Cost something on the order of $25K per individual as I recall.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
OT redunancy:
Everyone here should, at some time during their day, read Lee Rodgers’ site. It’s just one essay/rant/set of observances and pontifications, but each day, it’s a good thing.
http://www.radiorodgers.com/index.html
Apparantly he’s got a radio show, but I’ve never listened. I’m more into reading than I am watching or listening. And each day, he’s got a good read, right up my alley.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
#134 donh
Amazing. Good catch, donh.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
Mobys are amazing.
annie p commented:
Airon: you insulted all of the posters’ intelligence, and challenged us to a game of chess. Just was wanting to let you know that indeed there are intelligent conservatives, in case you don’t know any. Maybe you should get to know us better before insulting as as a group.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
Re: Lee Rodgers’ main page:
When you see a dividing line at the bottom of a post, it’s the end of that day’s post, and the beginning of the previous day’s post. Very “web 1.0″, but, words are words.
Arch commented:
Airon:
Other than ridiculing the comments of others and making ad hominem attacks, what exactly have you posted here? With your self professed knowledge of military history, what would you do under the present circumstances and why?
Airon-otomist commented:
Whatever Obama is doing, that’s what I’d do.
Gini commented:
#131 February 25, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Shawna Forde commented:
You leave me speechless by you total misunderstanding. I presume you study English at night school and have serious problems with comprehension of the written word.
Hoosierman commented:
“Soft power” seems especially soft these days.
Airon Later commented:
#141 and #143
I understand that both of you want to lower the level of discourse here because of the perception that everyone within the confines of the modern American Right have of a person like me, but that just doesn’t work. People of your socio-political alignment all too often display the traits that you claim are exclusive to the Left in America. After all, Taqiyyotomist created a fake persona in a poor attempt to mock me. How is that a display of your intellectual superiority?
I don’t doubt that there are “intelligent” conservatives the same way I don’t doubt there are “intelligent” people of any political alignment. The problem is that more often than not, that ability is pushed aside in favor of engaging in the attacks that I am currently being blamed for.
Shawna Forde commented:
#131:
If you’re speechless it’s because you’ve been virtually slapped and are feeling the hot sting of shame. You’re giddy about seeing Americans trapped in a foreign country during a time of turmoil. I doubt that you’re an American.
Arch commented:
Airon:
I don’t want a “lower level of discourse.” Hundreds of Americans are in a Middle East nation descending into chaos. I want an answer from you. What we should we do?
One other question: What is the “modern American Right.”
cutlers bad knee commented:
Airon is living proof that Chrissy Tingles Matthews spent at least one night with Katie (i dont know why my ratings are so low?)Couric….
Arch commented:
What is my “socio-political alignment?”
Jean commented:
It’s obvious now when Obama apologized to the rest of the world for America’s arrogance he was speaking for himself.
olm commented:
Slapped? You’re a piece of work. We wanted the Americans out of the Middle East long before the reporters were getting assaulted in Egypt, that includes the Americans in Libya.
Shawna go back to having cocktails with MO, maybe a couple more and you’ll make sense.
Rhinestone Suderman commented:
Now, Airon is trying to shame us all into agreeing with him, by calling us stupid.
Won’t work.
Bunni commented:
What a bunch of f-ing MORONS. O & co. can’t be assed about the lives of American’s….they were too busy partying w/ the motown crowd last night. When can this clown be impeached?
Wm T Sherman commented:
I think I’ve got the answer. The Americans are being kept there by Obama’s natural reluctance to cross a picket line.
Airon Later commented:
#150 #152
Arch, you really shouldn’t pretend to be so ignorant. Or are you pretending.
But as to you question regarding Americans abroad, there is no simple answer. Military force is an option, but there are consequences to that. But there’s an underlying reality to this that you and just about everyone here aren’t considering – why are they there to start with? Are they “missionaries”? Are they aid workers? Are they on vacation? But the one thing that keeps resonating when I read questions like your directed at any member of the American Left is that it reveals your inability to formulate your own plan in favor of complaining about ours.
Arch commented:
In answer to your question, I am but a poor simple soldier, unable to match wits with anyone as educated and knowledgeable as you.
To answer your question: I don’t care why Americans are in harm’s way, what they are doing there, or even who they are. Do you believe we should only pick up our embassy staff?
Is there a military option? I don’t see a carrier task force in the Med. Why is that? I see no evidence that we are loading up an airborne brigade at Ft Bragg. No word of an marine amphibious assault force departing Hampton Roads. What is the military option?
What is your plan?
Dave-O commented:
Back when we had a real American president, Ronald Reagan sent in the Marines to evacuate upwards of 1,000 U.S. medical students in Grenada. They were never so happy in their lives to see an American soldier. God bless America and God bless Ronald Reagan.
the current occupant of the White House isn’t fit to hold his jockstrap.
Wasn’t it Bill Clinton who told Ted Kennedy that “a few years ago, Obama would have been serving them coffee??” I think Clinton had an accurate view of Obama’s “pay grade” at that point. General Colin Powell would have made a much more effective president than President Urkel and Co.
Rhinestone Suderman commented:
Airon, you seem to be hinting that it’s all the fault of the Americans, for being in Libya in the first place. Blame the victim?
Basically, you do seem to be saying that we should just leave them there, because there will be “consequences” if we try getting them out, and, you know, they might really be awful people, like—gaspe, shudder, aieeeee!—MISSIONARIES!
(Hand me my smelling salts, I feel faint—”Missionaries!” “Missionaries” with scare quotes, yet!)
(In short, appease, appease, appease, and the Moslem world will love us!)
Actually, the answer isn’t complicated at all, though you try to make it so; a nation that can’t, or won’t, protect its own citizens, wherever they are, is finished—washed up, kaput, ended, nada. Getting our own people out of hostile territory? Not complicated at all.
(But, Obama clearly doesn’t want to do that, AND OBAMA IS ALWAYS RIGHT! SO JUST STOP CRITICIZING HIM, YOU AWFUL RIGHTWINGERS!)
Rhinestone Suderman commented:
Let’s hear your plan, Airon! We await your words, o Fearless Leader!
(Hey, I know! Let’s send Libya more money! Then the Islamic world will really like us!)
jorgen commented:
Obama is doing his best. This is what you can expect from an inexperienced affirmative-action-president.
xkaydet65 commented:
If this story of chartering an inadequate vessel for evac proves true, and if Americans are harmed because of the delay, this will ring through the country as Desert One Redux, with the same results politically.
Dave-O commented:
Perhaps Airon will send in Sean Penn with his rowboat and a film crew like he did after Hurricane Katrina. that’ll work!!
olm commented:
Just watched a video clip from the Motown party last night.
I just can’t help it, something stinks to high heaven here. Shawna, maybe you can shed a little light. Why in the hell is out CinC out partying like it’s 1999 and sends a little raft to pick up 600 people. WTF?
Hey Shawna, Nero is fiddling. Last night it was at the Motown party. How was it? I’ll bet you were there.
Rhinestone Suderman commented:
Maybe Airon will demand the UN get involved—which, if it does, will probably result in yet another condemnation of Israel!
That will help! (Not!)
/Sarc. off.
∅ commented:
Scheduling problem…er, no…messaging problem…er, no…Sarah Palin!
Arch commented:
Airon:
Seems your plan doesn’t exist either, just like Obama’s.
Rhinestone Suderman commented:
BOOOOSH! IT’S BOOOOOSHE’S FAULT!
/Sarc. off.
Auntie Em commented:
Auntie Em
Lee Rodgers had something to say in today’s post (a must-read, every day) about the “impeachment” cries heard for the last couple of years:
“By the way… one of my most teeth-grinding experiences, oft repeated, is reading opinions that Obama’s many acts of malfeasance call for his impeachment. For those who missed it in high school civics (or government) class, impeachment calls for–first–indictment by the House, then conviction by the Senate. The Senate is still controlled by Democrats who would never cast such a vote, doubtless joined by several RINOs. It’s not in the cards.”
http://www.radiorodgers.com/index.html
I’ve got that bookmarked and read it daily. Welcome back, Lee!
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I know it is like spitting in a hurricane to call for impeachment. I am just perplexed at how he has been able to be the way he is. Perhaps there is something that can be done once he leaves. I’d like to see him hanged, but I am all 1776 like that.
Dave-O commented:
I think a plan like this is above Airon’s pay grade.
schlep stein commented:
Impeach what? You have to cook up at least a half-baked impeachment charge, which you don’t have…. i am sure you will come up with something…. if W. didn’t get impeached considering his litany of offenses, then no way is the comparably benigh Obama getting impeached.
Alonzo commented:
But there’s an underlying reality to this that you and just about everyone here aren’t considering – why are they there to start with? Are they “missionaries”? Are they aid workers? Are they on vacation?
Really lame, childish attempt to excuse Obama’s ineptitude. What they’re doing there is irrelevant to the fact that Obama has screwed up his obligation to protect American citizens.
Dave-O commented:
Alonzo #177 – my thoughts precisely.
what the hell difference does it make?
A lot of them are schoolteachers (maybe even UNION members!!) – others are children.
what the hell kind of point is Airon trying to make? That there is some sort of screening process that the Administration has to go thru? Maybe to determine whether they are Democrats or not?
the fact that they are AMERICANS ought to be enough! And for any other president that WOULD be enough!!
ogee commented:
Can they do anything right?
Airon Later commented:
I certainly don’t blame the Americans that are there, which is exactly why I ask the question that I did – and it drew out the answer from some of you that I expected. Recently Jim Hoft blamed Laura Logan for what happened to her in Egypt; that she shouldn’t have put herself into that position. People here went absolutely ballistic that this was pointed out for what it was, which was quite predictable. So now that I have posed the same question to you, you take up the position that those of us on the Left took up in consideration to Logan.
But as far as a plan, there is a very good reason to determine why American are on foreign soil, as a diplomatic solution could be the best option. Just last year, Clinton and Carter secured the release of American from foreign countries using diplomacy. And while this situation in Libya may not lend itself to a pure diplomatic resolution, I think that it should at least be on the table.
Alonzo commented:
Recently Jim Hoft blamed Laura Logan for what happened to her in Egypt; that she shouldn’t have put herself into that position.
“A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines.” — Ralph Waldo Emerson.
It’s not Hoft’s fault that you’re too stupid to see the difference between the circumstances of the Logan assault and the plight of Americans in Libya.
tommy mc donnell commented:
yes rhinestone the UN should get involved. that’s the organization that made qaddafi the chair of it HUMAN RIGHTS commission.
Fionnagh commented:
People, why do you even bother responding to the Airons of the world? He’s on the wrong thread. Let him just ramble on, talking to himself, and cruise on past his comments.
Rhinestone Suderman commented:
Gee, Airon, what a swell plan! A diplomatic solution!
Uh, a question. . . who, exactly, do we negotiate with? Qaddafi has vanished, and is on the run. Various groups of gunmen are rampaging across Libya at the moment; which one shall we negotiate with? Do we even know which ones have any control over foreign nationals, at the moment? Or, maybe, we should just flip a coin!
But, first, let’s stand around twiddling our thumbs, deciding why the Americans are there, and if they truly deserve any help! That way, the gunmen can have plenty of time to kill them and/or take them hostage, creating another Iranian hostage style Jimmuh Carter fiasco.
Again, a country that does not protect its citizens is finished, dead, kaput.
Or, I know! Let’s call in the UN! Hey, they’ve done such a bang-up job so far! And—HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!—as another poster pointed out, Qadaffi’s on their human rights commission! Maybe they’ll do something really effective—like condemn Israel for something or other!
Man, that sure is a great plan! (Not!)
(It’s all moot, anyway. Sounds like the Americans are all out, now, thanks to the British doing the job that Obama should have done.)
mc hammer commented:
#181 February 25, 2011 at 6:50 pm
Airon Later commented:
what was given away to secure the release.
you still have not answered ARCH’s question. “What would you do?”
Yet another saul Alinsky tactic.
powder is dry
Airon Later commented:
#186 mc hammer
I have answered. But then again, I haven’t enumerated my response in the fashion that any of you feel you are entitled to, so that is why you insist that I am employing some “Alinsky” tactic.
I find that rather humorous, as most ( if not a majority ) of you have never read anything by Alinsky. But then again, it’s much easier to name drop since it makes you look intelligent.
Edouard commented:
Airon, you don’t have a plan, do you? You are clueless about how to respond despite asking you to apply your vast brains to the specific and direct problem of extracting Americans ASAP from that rapidly devolving country.
What the hell do you think the military is for, if not for evacuating Americans in a crisis situation like this one?
Is it wise for this president to have a damn party while Americans are in immediate risk of losing their lives and in urgent need of rescue? Should he not be spending every spare minute solving this problem? Defense of this country is, after all, his primary job…
Who, specifically, does one “negotiate” with, according to you and your gigantic intellect?
Come on, we asked specifics from you, not the generalities and platitudes that you typically so haughtily come in here and present.
ogil commented:
The Tibet guys also wanted not to look like war mongers-now their culture is dead!
CJG commented:
I’ve been in an American carrier battle group off Tripoli before. I think it’s time to position one there again. A few well-placed smart weapons in Muamar’s living room should end this whole discussion.