Unreal… White House Calls Obamacare Ruling Judicial Overreach

U.S. District Judge Roger Vinson ruled today that Obamacare is unconstitutional.

The White House today said the Obamacare ruling by Judge Roger Vinson was a plain case of judicial overreach.
Forbes reported:

Earlier today Judge Roger Vinson ruled that the health reform legislation passed last year is unconstitutional. Not surprisingly this evoked a harsh reaction from the administration, which does not want to its main domestic accomplishment during the President’s first two years in office to be nullified by the courts.

On the White House’s blog, spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter writes: “Today’s ruling – issued by Judge Vinson in the Northern District of Florida – is a plain case of judicial overreaching.” She continues: “Those who claim that the “individual responsibility” provision exceeds Congress’ power to regulate interstate commerce because it penalizes “inactivity” are simply wrong. Individuals who choose to go without health insurance are actively making an economic decision that impacts all of us.”

What garbage.

Nice work, democrats… You blew a year on your nationalized health care plan and its unconstitutional.

More… Michelle Malkin reported: Sen. Jim DeMint tweets that all 47 GOP Senators are now on board as co-sponsors of his Obamacare repeal bill.

#1 January 31, 2011 at 5:19 pm
Chisum commented:

Let the tears of impotent rage flow. Surely my tax dollars will pay for a box (or two) of tissues.
#2 January 31, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Reconstitution commented:

Has anyone else noticed that the Democrats and Obama in particular, have adopted a practice of saying the opposite of the truth? Whatever they do, they accuse the conservatives of doing. Good is evil, evil is good, the truth is a lie, and lies are the truth.
#3 January 31, 2011 at 5:20 pm
MrGoodWench commented:

How is Ms NBC taking the news ?
#4 January 31, 2011 at 5:21 pm
OnTheOtherHand commented:

What else do they have?

#5 January 31, 2011 at 5:26 pm
chewydog commented:

Yeah, ’cause let’s pass this so we can see what’s in it…
Kids and Crackerjacks.
#6 January 31, 2011 at 5:27 pm
StrangernFiction commented:

“Individuals who choose to go without health insurance are actively making an economic decision that impacts all of us.”

So are people that choose not to exercise, eat potato chips, ski, attend statist functions donning Tea Party apparel….
#7 January 31, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Redwine commented:

Mark Levin just said in his opening monologue that if the regime fails to recognize the court’s ruling, the Repubs should return to the Judge Vinson and request a ruling of contempt against the Obama, et al.
#8 January 31, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Rancid commented:

RE:
#2 January 31, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Reconstitution commented:

Has anyone else noticed….
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
YES!
#9 January 31, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Andrew X commented:

Mark Levin is on fire, comparing the ruling to all sorts of previous rulings regarding civil rights and the like, and the demands of the left then that state and federal executives hold such rulings as virtually absolute.

This is a petard that can hoist the left big time. Levin is saying that if the administration does not accept the ruling, a contempt order can follow, which could be grounds for an impeachment movement. (mayyybe… a.x.)

Irnically, I sort of agree with the idea of “judicial overreach”, and am slightly concerned that this could prove a petard of our own. But the fact is, as far as health care is concerned, the left now must choose between scrapping the entire thing, or virtually sactioning the idea of ignoring federal judges injunctions on legislative matters (which if they do, the GOP can do in spades). Not a pleasant place to be, and it couldn’t of happened to a nicer bunch.
#10 January 31, 2011 at 5:35 pm
ar05075 commented:

Pray for the strength of the Supreme Court 5
#11 January 31, 2011 at 5:36 pm
bluemount commented:

What if I had enough money to pay out of pocket for my own healthcare and didn’t need insurance? They created Obamacare to reform health insurance, not health care. That’s why it’s nothing but a health insurance killer to get to universal gov’t care.
#12 January 31, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Hold on commented:

Hold on, Obama and the New left have conqured America. It is over. Obama can kill billions and the left will place the blame on Palin and have her exicuted. It over, get over it.

The Supreme Court will do whatever Obama wishes, and that includes implimenting the twisted ‘commerce clause’ that negates all sections of the US constatution, thus OBama care will eventually come to be law.

America is over, it is a sad place. You can complain for the next 20 years, but that is not going to change anything.
#13 January 31, 2011 at 5:40 pm
gus commented:

Hey White House!! Do the works FUX YOU mean anything to you?? You are ONE BRANCH of the Government. We’ve said NO to you. We’ve said HELL NO to you, and now I am saying FUKK YOU.
#14 January 31, 2011 at 5:41 pm
StrangernFiction commented:

#10 January 31, 2011 at 5:35 pm
ar05075 commented:
Pray for the strength of the Supreme Court 5

Yes
#15 January 31, 2011 at 5:41 pm
Multitude commented:

Interesting White House reasoning on the right to control others behavior because of its fiscal impact to us… if it were valid, we’d have to have Barack’s Camels confiscated and also seize whatever Michelle’s been feeding her face on to put on those extra pounds.

Oh, and all of those freeloaders in the grocery store getting beer and movies, while using food stamp cards for groceries? No fun for you. Put the lotto tickets down. And with OUR money, you’re not buying little debbies, frozen pizzas or anything else prepared. See that box of flour and the store brand hamburger? There’s supper. Heinz brand catsup is above your paygrade, honey.

The cool thing is we’re sure going to sell a lot of gym memberships since it’s clear someone’s fat ass sitting on the couch is going to affect our pocketbooks too. How far does the left want us to take this? I’m sure we’ll find a way to shut down every aspect of their pathetic lives using the laws they’re enabling for Obama’s right-wing successor.
#16 January 31, 2011 at 5:44 pm
donh commented:

“Individuals who choose to go without health insurance are actively making an economic decision that impacts all of us.”

A communist simply does not tolerate freedom . A free market allows supply and demand to interact and set prices for goods and services.
#18 January 31, 2011 at 5:55 pm
gastorgrab commented:

They should have included a “No Take-Backsies Clause”.
#19 January 31, 2011 at 6:02 pm
Redwine commented:

Mark Levin has commented that the Obama administration’s response is coming dangerously close to sedition – a word he said that he has never uttered on radio until today.
#20 January 31, 2011 at 6:03 pm
rbosque commented:

Obama-care is Constitutional overreach. The arrogance of this administration to ignore the very document they swore to uphold is criminal.
#21 January 31, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Pat the First commented:

They blew it when they didn’t put in the severability clause. That is their fault. I know they didn’t want to pick the act apart, but that thinking just blew up in their face.
#22 January 31, 2011 at 6:08 pm
tarpon commented:

This is cool … “I note that in 2008, then-Senator Obama supported a health care reform proposal that did not include an individual mandate because he was at that time strongly opposed to the idea, stating that ‘if a mandate was the solution, we can try that to solve homelessness by mandating everybody to buy a house,’” Judge Vinson wrote in a footnote toward the end of the 78-page ruling Monday.
#23 January 31, 2011 at 6:08 pm
Gordo commented:

I just finished reading the ruling in it’s entirety. I thought the reasoning, as supported by other Commerce Clause rulings was very well supported and explained.

Stephanie Cutter claim that “Individuals who choose to go without health insurance are actively making an economic decision that impacts all of us” was specifically addressed in the ruling. Inaction is not action.
#24 January 31, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Joe Kidd commented:

I have yet to see one Democrat explain why, if this law is so great, did so many of Obama’s political donors get waivers?
#25 January 31, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Colin commented:

RE #16
Providers of food, clothing, shelter etc are not required to provide their goods or services on demand to consumers without charge. Some health care providers are required to provide some health care sevices without charge to those who do not have the means to pay. If health care providers are FREE to tell an uninsured person needing health care to get lost and die, then the free market would work.

Otherwise the statement “Individuals who choose to go without health insurance are actively making an economic decision that impacts all of us.” is true
#26 January 31, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Joanne commented:

“Individuals who choose to go without health insurance are actively making an economic decision that impacts all of us.””

So then why is the Whitehouse exempting corporations, unions, and businesses from Obamacare then? This argument is moot.
#27 January 31, 2011 at 6:21 pm
aprilnovember811 commented:

If the Executive Branch defies a Federal Court Order even though two others have said it is alright, you must cease and desist from implementing any of it. He needs to be removed from office if he defies this. He is not legitimate anyway but if impeachment is the only option DO IT!

This would be contempt if HHS or Obama defy this ruling by the court. WE WILL MAKE SURE IT IS DONE! I DON’T GIVE A DAMN WHAT THE MARXIST MEDIA HAS TO SAY ABOUT IT!

Mark said the Republicans need to call for an immediate hearing with HHS and ask if they are going to comply with this order. If not they need to go right back to court and seek contempt.
#29 January 31, 2011 at 6:24 pm
Taqiyyotomist commented:

He called it “Judicial overreach”….

….he would have preferred a “judicial reach-around.” IYKWIM.

(sorry, couldn’t help it….)
#30 January 31, 2011 at 6:24 pm
donh commented:

The constitution grants a specific right to remain silent. Exercising a right to remain silent is a decision that also actively impacts other people .
#31 January 31, 2011 at 6:25 pm
jdmeac commented:

Actually, the court’s ruling is ONLY an opinion and does not nor cannot overturn the law. As such no federal court has any such authority to do so, due to their enumerated powers in Article 3 & Amendment 11. ONLY the Congress & States Congresses have the authority to nullify the unConstitutional law.
#32 January 31, 2011 at 6:32 pm
tommy mc donnell commented:

oh the bane of liberalism an activest judge.
#33 January 31, 2011 at 6:34 pm
gastorgrab commented:

“Individuals who choose to go without health insurance are actively making an economic decision that impacts all of us”

————

A self-justifying argument. (“I am typing now.”)

If the government insisted that everyone own a TV, the individual choice of one would also have an economic effect on all of us. It attempts to preempt the question; ‘Can the government force people to buy a TV’?

Having health care is no guarantee that a person will be healthy. And for a philosophy that normally judges the worth of a strategy by it’s outcome, Progressivism would seem to be acting against it’s own stated interest.
.
#34 January 31, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Marmo commented:

“Individuals who choose to go without health insurance are actively making an economic decision that impacts all of us.”

What they really want to say is:
“Individuals who choose to vote Republican are actively making a political decision that impacts all of us.”
#35 January 31, 2011 at 6:40 pm
Taqiyyotomist commented:

OT:

First, read this comment by GBArg, from an earlier thread today:

http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/01/florida-judge-expected-to-rule-on-obamacare-today/#comment-250178

He quotes a commenter on freerepublic who notes the amazing similarity between Alinksy’s (dedicated to Lucifer) Rules for Radicals and C.S. Lewis’ The Screwtape Letters, a fictional series of letters written from a demon to his nephew….an altogether amazing and eye-opening comment.

Then, if you want to see how accurate this comment he quoted is, read the entirety of “The Screwtape Letters” here:

http://members.fortunecity.com/phantom1/books2/c._s._lewis_-_the_screwtape_letters.htm

And the entirety of Rules here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/37293678/Rules-for-Radicals

And see for yourself. The hard left is Satanic, and their ruler and guide in all things, whether they realize it, acknowldge it, or not, is the Devil in Hell.
#36 January 31, 2011 at 6:50 pm
kansas commented:

Judicial Over reach: Judiciary decisions that do not agree with Obama Administration policy.
Obama Administration Policy: Positions that Obama currently holds that are not consistent with positions he formerly held.
#37 January 31, 2011 at 6:53 pm
George commented:

“Individuals who choose to go without health insurance are actively making an economic decision that impacts all of us.”

How about individuals who choose to drop out of school? The end up being unemployable and on the welfare roles — AND WITHOUT HEALTH INSURANCE. Will we pass a federal law that says you must complete high school?

I’m tired of paying for knuckleheads who refuse to pull their own weight.
#38 January 31, 2011 at 6:55 pm
Joe College commented:

Mark Levin says if the White House does not implement this ruling they should be held in contempt of court!
#39 January 31, 2011 at 6:55 pm
Greg commented:

Democrat’s desire to legislate/regulate all of life’s choices and behaviors suffers setback.
#40 January 31, 2011 at 7:01 pm
bg commented:

++

OT..

Burma (Myanmar) opens parliament but junta retains strong grip

[Burma (Myanmar) took another step Monday toward civilian rule after
nearly five decades of military dictatorship with the convening of its new,
semielected parliament. But the military seems set to retain its grip on
the process, to the frustration of regime critics. ]

Aung San Suu Kyi (virtually) at Davos

[The country’s military rulers would have people believe that the new parliament, along with November’s general elections—not to mention the release of Miss Suu Kyi herself from house arrest—all signify a democratic transition under way.

Miss Suu Kyi, however, mentioned none of the above to her Davos audience. Her party, the National League for Democracy (NLD), believes that the whole show is a sham, designed to curry support for a repressive military regime that in fact has no intention of fundamentally changing its ways. Indeed, as if to prove the point, that very same day, on January 28th, Myanmar’s highest court threw out an appeal against the government’s dissolution of the NLD as a political party. The NLD had been banned for refusing to take part in what it regarded as the fraudulent elections in November.]

==
#41 January 31, 2011 at 7:01 pm
StrangernFiction commented:

“The hard left is Satanic.”

And water is wet.

j/k Taq, it needs to keep being said. Good vs. Evil.
#42 January 31, 2011 at 7:19 pm
myohmy commented:

Obama can mandate that everybody should buy a house.
#43 January 31, 2011 at 7:25 pm
andy42302 commented:

As it stands, over a dozen judges have ruled in favor of The Affordable Care Act. This was expected as it fell in the mainstream of judicial opinion. When opponents search high and low for activist judges such as Vinson and Hudson, it’s expected that they’d rule ideologically.

Radical judges making radical decisions, while expected, have historically failed. We’ve seen this with Social Security, The Voting Rights Act, Guns, Insurance, Minimum Wage, Civil Rights, Cafes banning blacks, and the list goes on. There’s not really anything new about a partisan judge or 2 bucking the broad powers of Congress allowed to them by the Constitution.

In December, Hudson’s ruling struck down an individual mandate (an idea basically handed to Hudson by the GOP). Many found that decision asinine and questioned its validity. Vinson however, feels that because of his opinion of insurance requirements, that somehow magically renders the entire legislation invalid. This takes judicial activism to a new level.

To further validate his blatant ideological partisanship, Vinson actually makes a teabagging sales pitch by adding;

“It is difficult to imagine that a nation which began, at least in part, as the result of opposition to a British mandate giving the East India Company a monopoly and imposing a nominal tax on all tea sold in America would have set out to create a government with the power to force people to buy tea in the first place.”
#44 January 31, 2011 at 7:29 pm
tarpon commented:

Did anyone hear the stooge Schumer today … We have three branches of government, he said, the House the Senate and the Presidency … And you wonder why ….
#45 January 31, 2011 at 7:31 pm
Hedgehog commented:

Everything that comes out of this White House has a creepy undercurrent of collectivism. They just do not live in the real world. It’s fine for them. They all live in the cloistered world of Cambridge, Georgetown, the Upper West Side, etc. They want a world where there are two classes. Them at the top, and the rest of us below living as they want us to live. Collectivism for us. Not them. BS. Look at the mess that they have created with all of their high mindedness. What a pack of frauds.
#46 January 31, 2011 at 7:31 pm
Conservative Ken commented:

I really hope ObamaCare is defeated in the Court system and not in the senate.

Here is my reasoning, bear with me.

Democrat Socialists masquerading as moderates crammed the health care fiasco down our throats last year. They exposed themselves for what they really were. These were Senators like Claire Mccaskill.

Giving them another go around with ObamaCare will give them a chance to reposture themselves as moderates by allowing them to vote for the repeal.

This is especially dangerous given that the 2012 elections are coming up fast and Senators like Mccasskill are very slick at playing the Blue Dog game.
#47 January 31, 2011 at 7:32 pm
dwd commented:

… therefore not eating broccoli impacts all of us, having a high BMI impacts all of us, breathing impacts all of us. Everything you do, and everything you choose not to do, has an effect, which apparently gives the government the right to decide and control and mandate. Under this logic, you will be a slave to the state in every aspect of your life. Cradle to grave, you will be told what to do, what to buy, when to do it, when to buy it, how much to pay for it…

This is exactly why there was a Revolution, this is exactly why those revolutionaries wrote the Constitution: to prevent this very GOVERNMENTAL OVERREACH

Thank you, Judge Vinson, for doing the right thing
#48 January 31, 2011 at 7:33 pm
valerie commented:

“Stephanie Cutter writes: “Today’s ruling – issued by Judge Vinson in the Northern District of Florida – is a plain case of judicial overreaching.”

Those are what pass for “fighting words” among lawyers. Now we get to see whether it’s Stephanie Cutter or BO’s reputation as a lawyer that gets thrown under the bus.

Here’s some pertinent excerpts and commentary, along with a link to the opinion, H/t Legal Insurrection.

http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2011/01/florida-judge-rules-against-obamacare.html
#49 January 31, 2011 at 7:37 pm
bg commented:

++

valerie #48

i will assume Cutter still has a license to practice law,
whereas Obama threw his under the bus so to speak..

==
#51 January 31, 2011 at 7:49 pm
RS commented:

American citizens are slaves of the state is the concept embraced of the White House.

These statist idiots have to be whipped into submission by the Constitution. Period.
We are getting to the last exits before the seriously expensive toll road back to liberty.
#52 January 31, 2011 at 7:50 pm
valerie commented:

bg,

I have no idea whether Cutter knows anything at all about the law. One would think not, based on her comment. BO, however, ran on his outstanding legal credentials of being on Law Review and acting as a fill-in for a professor, and he just made a big speech about manners.

Cutter has committed an embarrassing breach of manners.
#53 January 31, 2011 at 7:53 pm
AuntieMadder commented:

“White House Calls Obamacare Ruling Judicial Overreach”

Yeah, well, the White House can call that a statement, but it’s still BS. And Obamacare is still unConstitutional.
#54 January 31, 2011 at 8:05 pm
AuntieMadder commented:

bg: OT. In regards to our short discussion this past weekend about Bushes and the NWO, I was wondering if you’d seen this and what you think of it.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_bush19.htm
FYI: The source was the book based on deathbed “hints” of author’s ex-girlfriend’s father. How credible can that be?
#55 January 31, 2011 at 8:07 pm
gus commented:

Forcing America to be Marxist NOT OVER REACH.
Ruling that Americans CANNOT be forced to buy INSURANCE. OVER REACH.

I’ve said it for a long time folks. VIOLENCE IS COMING.
#56 January 31, 2011 at 8:15 pm
Matt commented:

Watching that video is really something. Every shot is of a black person getting medical care. So, if you’re against Obamacare you must be racist. They’re still working that angle. I guess, just reporting the news is out of the question for the MSM.
#57 January 31, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Militant Conservative commented:

Powder is dry and awaiting the tyrannical government.

The tree of liberty must be watered.

We the people can govern ourselves.
#58 January 31, 2011 at 8:24 pm
StrangernFiction commented:

As Mark Levin talked about today, it is time for the R’s to step up to the plate and start taking some hacks for liberty. Pull Sebelius in and ask her if she intends to defy this ruling and continue to implement Obamacare. Will they do so, or will the continue to be good little enablers?
#59 January 31, 2011 at 8:26 pm
serfer1962 commented:

Andy misses the irony of the situation…the courts rendering DADT invalid but OHbamaCare is over reaching.
Get a grip andy and take stuff perversion, it Tea Party
#60 January 31, 2011 at 8:49 pm
maraz commented:

THIS ISN’T JUST ANY ORDINARY RULING

If you listen to the Mark Levin show from this archive link below… (Levin starts at the 3-4 pm hour and ends at the 5 – 6 pm hour)… he outlines what this means – and since the Judge denied the JUNCTION – which is denying the ability to keep moving forward with the law while waiting for the Supreme Court to decide, then the law is DEAD. And Levin points out that if the media – OR OBAMA – ignores this Judge’s ruling, then he should be slapped with a contempt of court and this is an Impeachable offense to ignore this Federal Judge’s ruling since we are a nation of laws.

http://www.ksfo.com/Article.asp?id=534876
#61 January 31, 2011 at 8:50 pm
maraz commented:

Here are two video clips so far… but the statements Levin says in the first hour of the show (which is not in the below clip) are the most crucial to hear… listen to the first hour of the archive link I posted earlier

VIDEO: Levin: Obama cannot continue to implement ObamaCare
http://www.therightscoop.com/levin-obama-cannot-continue-to-implement-obamacare

VIDEO: Breaking: Another Federal Judge rules ObamaCare Unconstitutional
http://www.therightscoop.com/breaking-another-federal-judge-rules-obamacare-unconstitutional
#62 January 31, 2011 at 9:07 pm
jd commented:

i cannot stress this enough-read the above title and then read the footnote on page 76.

the hypocrisy is just overwhelming to the point one wants to scream.
#63 January 31, 2011 at 9:14 pm
bg commented:

++

valerie #52

whereas Obama is just embarrassing..

==
#64 January 31, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Granny commented:

#54 – Auntie Madder

About that link. Here are a few of my observations. First, take a look at the picture at the top of the page, purporting to show, among others, Martin Borman and Josef Mengele in about 1938. Martin Borman is supposedly the blonde young man in a naval uniform holding the older woman’s hand at the left of the picture. In 1938 Martin Borman, who was born in 1900, would have been 38 years old. The young man specified as “Martin Borman” is clearly much younger than 38. I might buy 18 or 20. Also, by 1938 Borman occupied a high position in Hitler’s regime. Why would he be wearing what is clearly the uniform of naval enlisted personnel? If this picture was taken in 1938 then at least some of the people ID’d in that picture are not who we are being told they are. Also note the clothing styles – this is not a picture from 1918.

Speaking of that naval uniform, there are no identifying marks or insignia on that uniform or the other in the picture. I can tell you that this uniform is pretty close to the winter US Navy blue uniform my dad and uncle wore during WWII. I would be hard pressed to designate the picture in that uniform as German rather than American – or for that matter, British, which is also quite similar if you cannot see details like insignia, hat and so on.

Next, an awful lot of the “evidence” they present claiming that Bush I was actually a German spy/illegal immigrant is based on absence of records in the US, particularly birth and census records. I’ve spent years tracing my family genealogy and I can tell you first hand that the records from this period (1880-1930 or so) are a bit of a nightmare. Most of them are not available online. Big chunks are missing. Often you have to physically go to records depositories and search by hand for what you need yourself. Names are duplicated. Sometimes people are listed on the census by some other name than what they are known as in their family. I’ve had the easiest time by far tracing my father’s paternal family back into French Canada and then France itself – all the way to the 1400s. (The Catholic Church in Canada was responsible for records.) I’m still hunting for my maternal grandmother’s records – and I know first hand that those records might not even exist. When my paternal grandmother applied for Social Security in the 70′s there was a heck of a muddle because all of the records from the town that she was born in had been destroyed years before in a fire. Since she was never baptized, no birth records for her existed.

In short, I like a good conspiracy as much as the next gal, but this one seems to be utter bunk.
#65 January 31, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Muffin commented:

REPEAL the unconstitutional “law” anyways. Let’s make sure the government takeover is dead. You know these people will be back. It’s like cancer.
#66 January 31, 2011 at 10:10 pm
REFUSE TO COMPLY commented:

REFUSE TO COMPLY

http://www.facebook.com/refuse.to.comply
#67 January 31, 2011 at 10:13 pm
GrayRider commented:

Bury ObamaCare with Kennedy.
#68 January 31, 2011 at 11:17 pm
AuntieMadder commented:

Granny #64: Thank you for chiming in on this one.

I didn’t know all of that about Borman, uniforms, etc., so I had no opinion or impression of that particular photo. In whole, however, the photographic “evidence” is BS. Those old family photos are so yellowed and grainy that, unless you know/knew the people in them or whoever took the snapshots decades ago wrote the subjects’ names on the backs of them or somehow otherwise identified them for posterity, they could be anybody. Enlarging them or portions of them (as was done at at least one of the sites cited by that one) causes loss of definition, blurring the enlarged portions. So, the enlarged and therefore blurred photo of the young man they said was George Sr could have been a blurred pic of him…but it also could have been a blurred pic of my youngest brother when he was 20ish, or any young, tall, thin and lanky young man with light brown/dark blond hair.

Of course, the dead giveaway that it’s all BS comes from the author of the book himself, in his telling of how he came to “know” all of this, which starts at about 1/4 from the top of that web page.
#69 February 1, 2011 at 12:42 am
Radegunda commented:

andy #34, the so-called “Affordable Care Act” made my health insurance cost $1,000 more this year than it did last year.

I had a plan that worked for me. Now I have to subsidize 25-year-old “children” on their parents’ plans, and drug counseling and abortions, and people who wait until they get sick to buy insurance, etc. etc.

Your Democrat friends are robbing me.

The Democrat medical deform is also precipitating a severe shortage of doctors and other medical resources. That doesn’t worry Democrats. They only care about grabbing the power of life and death over us.
#71 February 1, 2011 at 4:59 am
Rose commented:

Well, it is good for the 47 GOP that they all be on board the repeal.
#72 February 1, 2011 at 5:54 am
Evil Otto commented:

Andy, are you copying and pasting that same comment everywhere you go?
#73 February 1, 2011 at 7:55 am
42302Duh! commented:

Andy you back woods troll copy and paste is all you got? Dipsh*t!!!
#74 February 1, 2011 at 8:42 am
QualityCounts commented:

Health insurance is NOT medical care. Historically, health insurance (and the use of it for just about anything) has helped to increase the cost of medical care. Sort of like price-fixing, but not exactly. Insurance is risk management. It’s NOT medical care. To assume that we will ALL have future medical expenses of a large magnitude is not even near correct. Some people consider insurance to be a type of gambling. And, there are numerous articles about the financial sense of purchasing various types of insurance. And, as one lady told her doctor over 15 years ago regarding the use of estrogen treatments, “Many women were getting through menopause long before modern medical care.” Obamacare penalizes not only those who do not have significant medical expenses, but those who are able to find and successfully utilize less costly treatments. NOT everyone is the same. That the government will give a credit on a sliding scale to help individuals pay for the health insurance sounds like kids playing dolls. Bush, Jr. (GW) received some negative responses for a comment he made regarding people getting help from local organization because he used the word “church.” However, replace that with the broader term “community organizations” and I think he would have had a winner! I’m a democrat and when it comes to “Obamacare,” my party is WRONG!!!
#75 February 1, 2011 at 8:59 am
Militant Conservative commented:

#73 February 1, 2011 at 8:42 am
QualityCounts commented:

There are good Democrats that love America.
However the Democrat party has been taken over by left wing socialists/communists.

I think you need to find another home, for the Democrat party has made itself Anti-American.
#76 February 1, 2011 at 9:00 am
Guy in Ohio commented:

“Individuals who choose to go without health insurance are actively making an economic decision that impacts all of us.”

No, the people who MANDATED that hospitals must treat anyone who walks through the door, regardless of their ability to pay, made an economic decision that impacted all of us. This entire health care mess can be traced back to that day, when our politicians decided to interfere with the free market and impose socialism on us. As usual, they pass one law to screw things up, and then another to make it worse ….
#77 February 1, 2011 at 9:00 am
QualityCounts commented:

Yes, Radegunda, the administration would be much wiser to increase funding for the education of MORE doctors. It would be less costly, more effective and give individuals more choice.

Also, on another note, the administration pushes all their education incentives, get your child that college degree, but if a parent owes the IRS and needs to make payment arrangements to get the bill cleared up [say for example, they pulled some retirement funds when unemployed ... and the withholding on it does not cover both the penalty and the taxes ... it rarely, if ever, does], …

any and ALL expenses for the support of that student are DISALLOWED.

So what’s the message? It seems to me Obama’s administration would be much further ahead if it had analyzed the tax code before jumping in with both feet.

Going back to the early withdrawal of retirement funds due to lack of work … penalty can be excluded to the extent of COBRA insurance premiums — what is the logic of that exclusion? For that matter, a lot of people BUT NOT ALL have a period of unemployment in their lifetimes, If they pull from their retirement funds rather than feed off the government, why are we penalizing them 10% for that early withdrawal? They still have to pay the taxes on it. They’ve already paid the ss and medicare tax on it.
#78 February 1, 2011 at 9:07 am
burt commented:

How is Ms NBC taking the news?
I imagine they are not too happy at the Micro$oft campus.
#79 February 1, 2011 at 9:26 am
Guy in Ohio commented:

andy42302 – that’s some mighty wishful thinking. Unconstitutional is unconstitutional. Although we may have been asleep while several other insults to our Constitution were rammed through, we aren’t sleeping anymore. Our belief in the founders’ vision has been renewed, and your use of the term teabagger is an insult to all of us. It destroys any credibility you might have had, and it clearly identifies you as the leftist putz that you are.
#80 February 1, 2011 at 11:39 am
BJ commented:

YOUR VOICE MUST BE HEARD NOW!

What is healthcare? When I was young, you were allowed my most insurance companies to choose your doctor. Healthcare was going to your local family doctor who new you by name, and would check you physically by looking in your ears, down your throat, and running tests.

If you are lucky enough to have healthcare now, you must go to a doctor in the network or one chosen for you. Now, the doctor’s won’t touch you. They listen to you explain your symptom’s, type them in a computer and boom, your diagnosed. They freely hand you antibiotics, Motrin, or whatever other drug that will cover up the problem for a while. Some get addicted while waiting for a proper diagnosis. Then some time down the road you will learn that that very medication has caused a series of other health problems and the maker is now being sued. So what was accomplished? You still don’t know what is/was wrong and now you possibly have other health problems or are a drug addict. Oh, and did I mention that it takes going through several doctors and months to get to the right doctor if ever.

I recently went to my healthcare provider (selected by the only insurance I can afford) about a possible thyroid problem. I complained about the ear pain and sore throat. I have a large bulge in my neck, ear pain, among other symptoms. I already had one thyroid removed because of a goiter sized over one inch in diameter. I was sent to ENT a mere month later and was told that he does not do thyroid problems, only ear’s. The doctor said to me “what have you been putting in your ear”, and when I explained that I only clean my ear with a q-tip or washcloth, he said “you shouldn’t put anything in your ear”. Then he sticks a metal tool in my ear saying that there is something in there and continues to try and dig it out. At this point I’m telling him that I’m about to faint. To make a long story short, I fainted twice, was rolled to the ER, where I had blood drawn, EKG, and CT scan of my head which resulted in that doctor telling me I had Sinusitis. I was prescribed an antibiotic and nasal spray and after a bottle of iv solution was sent home. I remember thinking on the way home who is this doctor and didn’t he just tell me not to put anything in my ear? I returned about a month and half later to ENT to see a different doctor for a follow up and he told me that the CT scan showed no signs of Sinusitis? I still have the symptoms and it’s been over two months now and still have no appointment to get the thyroid checked. Where is the healthcare here? Doctor’s are getting paid and patients are going undiagnosed without proper treatment.

As far as I am concerned, it no different than the education lottery that was a promise to pay for better education and has resulted in teacher’s getting pay cuts and/or losing their jobs. Where is that money going? Walk into any convenient store and try to pay for something. There is always someone in line buying a lottery ticket. Or buy a gallon of milk and you’ve paid for the cow. Put an extra dollar in your bank account and see how long it takes the government to find a way to get it? Income continues to get cut or stay the same while prices continue to rise.

I am no professional speaker, but I am a veteran, I have a degree and I have worked hard all my life. I always believed that I was fighting for our country and freedom. Now I often question that because we continue to lose more freedom everyday. Why is our military risking their lives to protect such a government? Has our government gotten too rich, greedy, and selfish as to take away the choices of us the hard working citizens? I say, instead of complaining, let’s take a stand and fire them. We voted them in and we can vote them out.

I think affordable healthcare should be taken into consideration and be made possible for all, but I don’t believe we should be punished or penalized for not being able to afford healthcare. As we all are affected by unexpected life changing situations that change our income and so forth. Obviously, to come up with such a plan, you’ve have never had to choose between milk and bread while at the grocery store? Punishing someone for not having enough money for health insurance is a selfish act because a lot of people do have to choose between bread and milk and by doing this they won’t even have that choice and may have to go hungry which is a cause of health problems. Only a selfish, greedy person would come up with such a plan. For some, this is not just about taking away your freedom of choice, but more about taking food away from your children. So I ask, who are the government thinking of and what kind of person comes up with this plan? Is our president really thinking of us or remodeling the white house? Are they choosing between bread and milk or are they ravished with expensive foods and the finest. Where is your heart and who is really benefiting from this? Most of us pay for homeowners insurance, auto insurance, and health insurance that is never used or used once in a lifetime. Where is all that money going?

I, an American citizen, urge you to voice your opinion. If you don’t speak, you will never be heard. Have faith and speak. So I say, do we need to re-think our government and vote differently next time? THIS IS NOT ONLY A YES, BUT A PRIORITY!

I send my sincere thank you to Judge Vinson for thinking of us the people instead of the government.
#82 February 1, 2011 at 5:58 pm
bg commented:

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AuntieMadder #54

sorry so late, just caught your post while searching for anothwer one..

what do i think??

it looks like one of my old family photos, only mine are black & white..

and albeit i started to read it..

i didn’t get very far before the “garbage”
sign started flashing inside my brain..

hth..

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