The media is now suggesting that Jared Loughner may have links to a radical anti-Semitic group American Renaissance.
Take this with a grain of salt.
The Herald Sun reported:
THE suspect being held over Saturday’s shooting of US Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords may have links to anti-Semitic race hate group American Renaissance.
An internal Department of Homeland Security (DHS) memo quoted by FOX News Channel revealed the gunman – named by the media as Jared Loughner, 22 – is “possibly linked” to American Renaissance.
The group subscribes to an ideology that is “anti-government, anti-immigration, anti -ZOG (Zionist Occupational Government), anti-Semitic,” according to the DHS memo.
Update: FOX News spoke with the founder of the American Renaissance Group. The founder said that they had never heard of Loughner and his name is nowhere in their records.
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Published May 21, 2012 at 12:19 am - 72 Comments
Listen up commented:
This could be true or not. It is a fact that Giffords is Jewish. The gun may or may not have known this fact. Whatever the reason it was an insane attack by an overtly insane person.
Listen up commented:
I meant to say “the gunman may or may not have known this fact.” We will just have to wait and see what is learned over time.
Granny commented:
At this point, the media has put forth so many outright lies about the alleged shooter that I can only assume everything else the put out to also be a lie.
The MSM these days is more rightly termed a propaganda mill than news organizations. “Homeland Security” memos? PUh-lease!
Granny commented:
BTw, 9 will get you 10 that “anti-government” really means does not toe the party line & does not approve of Barak Obama and “anti-immigration” means anti-invasion by illegal aliens and a supporter of border enforcement.
Homeland Security? How about Homeland Hogwash?
pete t commented:
Obviously a right wing nut.
PCM commented:
Anti-government, anti-semitic. In other words, the guy’s a Nazi, neo- or otherwise.
timwi commented:
Check out the site. Lots of books against blacks, Hispanics, Jewish people. They also link to Teaparty sites. I wonder if the Teaparty should be looking for fringe groups like this and demanding they unlink from legitimate sites.
Spider commented:
When we need the media to give us facts and source info, all we get is speculation and innuendo.
The MSM has completely failed.
daryl commented:
I want to know more about this “person of interest” they’re all mentioning in passing, but failing to follow up on with nothing more tangible than a grainy, out of focus photo.
And for that matter, a bit more info on the shooter would be appreciated.
But we already know more about him than we knew about the prez when he first broke in on the news scene for real back in ’07.
Strange times we live in when the more the talking heads flap their gums the less we do know about anything they discuss……
Andreas K. commented:
We can “possibly” also link him to George W Bush’s poolboy.
And if they’re radical anti-Semites, they’re not right wing either. They’re left as left can be. Anti-semitism is one of the most important parts of the left wing nonsense.
Karl Kautzky, chief ideologist of the SDP in Germany 1914, once said that the ultimate goal is the destruction of capitalism. And in order to achieve that, one has to destroy the Jews. That is a good thing, so he said.
Mike123 commented:
Seeing how the whole world hates the Jooos….. calling him an anti-semite doesn’t narrow it down much, unless they are implying he works for the UN.
Marsh commented:
That organization is headed by Jared Taylor it seems. And Jared Taylor is certainly a racist, he believes blacks especially are generally less intelligent than whites and incapable of developing and maintaining advanced societies on their own for example, and he’s also a white nationalist, but he’s somewhat unique in the world of white supremacism because he generally admires and thinks highly of Jews. He also holds north east asians in great esteem, and even considers them intellectually superior to whites, according to his wikipedia page. It’s arabs, blacks, hispanics and south east asians that he thinks are inferior to whites, not asians and jews. So possibly racist? Yes. Anti-jewish? Well, maybe. But I don’t see a possible link to that organization as proof of anti-jewish beliefs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Taylor
Slappy commented:
pete t (#5): “Obviously a right wing nut.”
Yeah, “obviously,” you dolt. Why don’t you read this Wall Street Journal news article and tell me that he can be classified as a “right-wing nut”?
http://tinyurl.com/33589jg
Loughner railed against the Constitution (which the Left accuses the Right in this country of loving too much), “expressed frustration with the Bush Administration,” was a drug user, and, according to the report on which this thread is based, had possible anti-Semitic tendencies. The latter I find instructive considering that it’s the Left that constantly rails against the Zionist state, sides with Arab Muslims in their disdain for Jews, and complains about the evil “neocons” (i.e., conservative Jews). Also, according to Chris Roads, Pima County’s registrar of voters, Loughner didn’t even vote in the mid-term elections this past November (see http://tinyurl.com/293zuan). Some Tea Partier, huh?
But, pete, you stick with your neat little fantasy because the truth of the matter is that his views are espoused by many extremist, anarchist types on the Left side of the political spectrum. Based on what I’ve seen this guy is mentally ill and has a strange amalgam of political views that reminds me of whacko Lyndon LaRouche, who ran for President as a Democrat seven times.
Andreas K. commented:
Typo: not SDP, but SPD, the Socialist Party of Germany, which still exists today. Yep, they’re still around, and quite strong.
Joe commented:
What side of the political spectrum is Helen Thomas on again? I can’t remember…
Diane Valencen commented:
Joe Helen Thomas didn’t shoot anyone in the face. Jared Loughner did.
newmike commented:
This sounds like a scattershot approach. They load a few key words in a search engine and this group comes up…
Now they know they’re being watched by DHS.
Joe commented:
Diane, that’s my point exactly. Palin didn’t shoot anyone in the face either, yet people are screaming that she has blood on her hands. I’m so sick of the hypocrisy and the disgusting politicization.
dave commented:
The premise MUST be that whoever Ms. Gifford is and whatever she is, the ASSASSIN who shot her and the other victims, must be brought to JUSTICE and EXECUTED.
As far as Ms. Gifford…
Her mother is not Jewish.
She did not CONVERT according to Jewish Law.
HENCE, she is NOT Jewish.
She may be a RIGHTEOUS GENTILE, but certainly NOT Jewish… Unless we let everything and everyone decide who is Jewish or not except Jewish Law and Tradition of 3,000 years.
It would be like letting a microbiologist decide how to better perform orthopedic surgery, a mechanic decide how to run a biology experiment, a painter deciding how to graft a plant rather than a botanist.
NO ONE who has ever learnt Jewish Law as taught in academies where Jewish Law has always been taught, would ever say that se is Jewish.
Then, of course, you can always find rabbits who call themselves rabbis…
Listen up commented:
I think Jared is a lunatic who went over the edge like some lunatics do and committed a horrific act of violence. His politics if any are so jumbled in his mind I do not think he can be labeled anything but crazy and I do not think anyone in the universe is responsible for the actions of Jared Loughner but Jared Loughner. Blame and finger pointing is being made on all sides to forward the acurser’s agendas, and that my friends is the truth.
Listen up commented:
The Jerusalem Post is reporting that Giffords is Jewish…they should know…but I could be wrong.
Donna Rosenblatt commented:
This is not true. Very poor reporting by gatewaypundit. Owner of Amren has a Jewish spouse and the organization has Jewish members. Pathetic attempt by leftists to associate this event with a wonderful organization like Amren.
Puggg commented:
Some of this is from my comments from GP’s other post on this subject:
* AmRen was the victim of a hate crime, when leftist extremists almost shut down its conference last year in D.C. DHS is supposed to be investigating that — I wonder how that’s coming along?
* AR is not an organization, it’s a publication and an underlying foundation. If the suspect was a subscriber or attended a conference, then that would be easy to tell. (He did neither, as it turns out.) Now, he could have posted to AR’s forums, but as heavily moderated as those are, nothing he could write would probably ever be posted, for the sake of bad grammar and incoherence, if nothing else.
* Just got off the phone with several contacts. If this suspect has any links with AR, it’s probably for the polar opposite reason — Because he was part if the leftist goon milieu that almost ruined the last AR conference, or he’s part of the one that wants to try it again for the next AR conference, which is next month. But that’s all speculation that this point. If that’s not the case, then DHS was just making stuff up, in which case they might well be on the defending end of a civil rights lawsuit.
Puggg commented:
23: JT’s wife is NOT Jewish, nor is she an ADL spy. That’s a common meme circulating around the Nazi crowd. But you’re correct on the second part.
Anna commented:
This news story is such BS. I’m Jewish, and am a member of Amren (American Renaissance)! They are NOT an antiJewish organization; they are an intellectual organization that studies and discusses the scientific differences between the races. I am not the only Jewish member; Rabbi Mayer Schiller, a Skver Chasidic rabbi, spoke at their conferences and as far as I know is still a member. So are other fellow Jews I know.
This is just an effort to smear what is perhaps the most effective, non-stereotypical group of people who study racial differences and who oppose the genocide of the white race.
Puggg commented:
http://tinyurl.com/33s63wk
AR’s official response