Appearing on television in November, former Hillary Clinton campaign adviser and current public relations executive, Mark Penn, suggested that President Obama needs a moment “similar” to the tragic terrorist attack on the Oklahoma City federal building, in order to “reconnect” with voters.

He didn’t even seem to flinch in making the comment.
Sick.
Via Free Republic:

Penn is currently president and CEO of Burson-Marsteller, a multi-national public relations firm. He also served in 2008 as chief strategist for then-Senator Hillary Clinton’s run for the White House. Before that, Penn advised former British Prime Minister Tony Blair in his third run for the UK leadership post, and served clients such as AT&T, Texaco, Ford, Merck, Verizon, BP, McDonald’s and Microsoft.

 

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  1. HATE SPEECH!!!! HATE SPEECH!!!!!!

  2. This is something I posted on another blog:

    Does anyone else feel this? It’s just an instinct or observation of mine.
    Has anyone else noticed all of the shootings and killings related to Washington. John Wheeler, the murder of Judge Roll(who I hear was getting ready to issue a ruling against the Obama regime, coincidence?) Congresswoman Giffords, the young lobbyist who’s burnt body was found in her car a day or two ago. Then in the past the man who breached Obama’s passport file shot execution style, Sarah Palin’s church being set on fire, three members from Obama’s church?
Just an observation. I’m starting to wonder if the guy is a hired killer. This was the third death of people related to the Federal Government in days, not to mention the supposed bombs being sent to government agencies in Washington and MD. One that supposedly went to Napolitano?
Are they staged events? Maybe someone needs to be looking into it? That’s if we have anyone on the right side of the law anymore in this country.


    

About this sheriff also. I’ve never seen a supposed law enforcement officer go on tv and spew political talking points in a crime before. Isn’t he the one typically working with the FBI and others to solve the crime? How does he have time to do this. He is talking just like the leftist old media. I listened to Mark Levin last night and he was talking about this. There was also a caller who said he reminds him of Mike Nifong. the rogue prosecutor from the Duke University case. Something about all of this, like everything tied to Obama just doesn’t pass the smell test. But then again I trust nothing coming from this crime syndicate calling itself the Federal Government these days. Obama is looking more and more like the despotic Kenyan I think he is everyday.
    
3. Comment by Phyllis 53 minutes ago
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    Absolutely not.


    4. Phyllis,
    Can I ask why you are sure of this?  There is part of me that wants to think, NO!  But then the other part of me says, Jim Jones got 900 people to take their own life drinking kool aid laced with cyanide.  When Les Kinsolving from WND tried to alert the authorities they mocked him, including the Washington Post.  It wasn’t until the dead Congressman Leo Ryan took him seriously and went down there and was killed, did people realize the truth.  Hitler killed 900 million jews, and people in Germany initially refused to believe he was doing it.  When Stalin died people were crying, I saw the old video.  We have serial killers all over the world.  What is so special about America that we couldn’t have one of our own?  I’m not saying it is true, but does it hurt to check?  I’m not above eating crow, but I’d rather see facts.  These are way too curious to dismiss.  I was just listening to Rush also.  He mentioned this Mark McKinnon(not sure if I spelled it right) saying in the fall, Barack Obama needed another OK City to pump up his ratings? Voila?  Obama wanted to push Cap and Trade, what happens,Gulf Oil Disaster.  Who does it help, George Soros and the company he’s invested in Petrobras.  Let’s face it George Soros learned his trade from the master, Hitler.  Is it out of the realm of possibilities that these could be Reichstag moments?
     
     Sometimes what is staring you right in the face is what you dismiss.  I’m going to fax it to the FBI in Tucson.  If they don’t want to take it seriously that’s up to them.  After 9/11, I wouldn’t dismiss anything if I were them.  It never hurts anyone to look at it, only the people responsible maybe. I try to think of what would help me if I were in law enforcement.  I would want people to send me tips.  Sometimes those that seem so unimaginable to normal mentally balanced people are the ones that are true.  You just couldn’t imagine anyone doing it because you could never do it.  I would rather be wrong and have it checked out, then never look at it at all.

  3. Then Obama also needs another holocaust to better relate to his Muslim brothers..

    The logic is stupendous and disgusting. Libs- it never ceases to surprise me.

  4. I can’t believe he said what he said and no one went ballistic over his words as he said them. So this is the socialist mind set. To he11 with the ruined lives of those from the attack of a left wingnut looney, let’s make political hay over the still warm bodies.
    He and Chris and company are just plain creepy.

  5. Flinch? why would he flinch? He thinks he is doing the right thing. The very fact we might disagree with him, is all the proof Penn needs that he is enlightened and we are benighted.

    I’d suggest reading Thomas Sowell’s excellent explanation “The Vision of the Anointed”. It won’t calm you down, but it exposes the roots of what is going on.

    In fact, Penn illustrates a key difference between conservatives and guys like Penn. Conservatives accept and analyze evidence about what works and doesn’t work. Penn is only seeking to assert his “vision” . . . which means he does backflips to ignore anything and everything – including simple morality – if it does not support his point of view . . . which leads right back to Dr. Sowell.

  6. Remember, never let a crisis go to waste.

  7. AprilNovember811, yes, they seem like all were a set-up. done on purpose. that been my gut feeling for a while now. i didn’t say it because i didn’t want people to think i was crazy.

  8. What obama needs is to lose the 2012 election…

  9. And it wasn’t just Mark Penn. In December, AceofSpades posted this:

    Democratic shill Mark Halperin thinks he knows exactly what Obama needs to get his mojo back…a little “luck” in the form of a terrorist attack or some other national tragedy.

    Looks like more than one Democrat had the same idea.

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/309065.php

  10. Penn is an example of a political operative sunk so deeply and insularly into the liberal bubble he’s lost his way and subjugated morals and decency to his absolute need to win. He has gone reptilian.

  11. So, using the idiotic logic offered over the past few days by the Left and their willing accomplices in the mainstream media, can we say Mark Penn incited — actually, gave instructions to — a Left-leaning nut to go on a shooting spree in order to create an event ‘similar’ to OKC to help Left-leaning Obama ‘reconnect’ with voters? It’s similar to the same stupid logic the Left is using in trying to pin the blame for the actions of Jared Loughner on Palin, the Tea Party, and actually all conservatives, isn’t it? Then you have that moron Democratic Rep. Clyburn actually implied the other day that because the Constitution was read in the U.S. House last week, it provoked murder spree in Tucson. Sure thing, Clyburn. Maybe you should also blame Rep. Giffords for getting shot since she took part in the reading of the Constitution. Oh, that’s right. She’s a Democrat so you won’t make that ridiculously stupid allegation. But if she were a Republican, who here is sure that Clyburn wouldn’t have?

    Per usual, many on the Left are not even attempting to attribute any of the responsibility to the actual perpetrator of the act, are they? I feel like I’m in an episode of “The Twilight Zone.”

  12. So, can we act like the left and posit that Mark Penn paid this nut? It’s all too convenient. Maybe he was influenced by O saying to bring a gun to the fight.

  13. It looks like very LOSER needs a September 11, 2001.

    Bush wasn’t popular till the days right AFTER 9/11.

    If you’re in trouble, find a 9/11 or CREATE one.

    That’s what LOSERS do.

    And God have mercy on this damn country!

  14. Democrats have definitely welcomed this tragedy as a BIG opportunity to put humpty dumpty back together again after his hard fall on Nov 2. Putting that little damien omen boy at the podium during Ted Kennedy’s Funeral worked so well to leverage tear power into the passage of Obamacare . Exploiting death works so much better when a child is involved . That is what makes this Tuscon assassination so special . They not only have death , but the death of a charming little girl, ,,,the very face of hope we can tie to all the emotions of 911. The politcal vulchers are drooling at all the power they can build off this trauma exploitation. Why we might even be able to pull off a coup de tat right here and put the whole free world under our order once and for all !….

  15. Obama never connected with anyone all he was and still is-is a fraud.
    He is nothing more then a made up personality completely void of all feeling.

    He had his robotic voice on high last Saturday right after the Shootings before he ran off as fast as he could to party and watch football.

    Obama is the mouth piece of the President or better yet … head reader.
    Other then that he gets to run around spewing hate for Conservatives and mostly lighter skinned Americans.

    He is like the super rich kid who’s father (George Soros) made all the money and then put his sons name on the company as CEO…He gets the title and all the perks without working one moment for the company.

    He is not and never will be an American President. An Oscar seat holder nothing more but worth a whole lot less.

    He is president pro-tem until we get our person in there in 2012.

  16. @aprilnovember811 commented:

    I had noticed that ..I hadn’t heard of somethings you wrote about happening.
    But I did read about the Judge and the Mother and Father killed in a house fire.

    You’re on to something here. Did you notice that all these death started to happen after Jim obama’s new head man came to the White House.
    I guess we do have the Mafia running or counter long with the Communist. who would have ever thought those two groups would hook up?

  17. Consider this, if the left are willing to step sooo low to exploit this tragedy what else are they capable of ???? Nothing is off the table with the left they have no soul or honor which is shown by their complete lack of basic common decency as they blatently slandering others with no remorse to further their agenda. We just won’t stoop that low on the right.

  18. Oops- Country.. sorry.

  19. mmc

    Pretty scary isn’t it.. remember they have those FEMA camps they are working on not to mention obama’s civilian army.

    What ???? I mean really What????. do you need with a civilian army when you have FBI,SWAT etc. I’m scared to death as to what length they the obama administration and the Left will go too , to stay in power.

    We have a be fight coming. I hope and pray it’s only at the ballot box but who knows
    they sure don’t have problems getting rid of those who stand in their way.

  20. I have said for over a year that Obama NEVER intends to leave office. He will help create something catastrophic in this country in 2012 and void or end all elections.

    Remember George Washington’s third vision.

  21. What America needs are events like the 2010 shellacking of Democrats at the voting booths, to happen over and over for the foreseeable future.

  22. #22 – averagemelon –

    George Washington’s third vision?

  23. Yessss…I think alot of this violence and DEFINITELY the reaction by media and public figures is orchestrated. Those creepy Washington murders aren’t getting hardly any analysis at all….I’d feel better if there were a watch list for haters like Krugman, some of these very vocal political players…..media people are completely out of control – who was it that called Michelle Malkin a “mashed up meat bag” or something ? he should be on constant watch. They are getting very hateful and pushing violence like crazy.

  24. Can’t wait to see how Mr. Obama handles himself on this “opportunity” to calm the seas. I seem to remember one of his “chance-of-a-lifetime” speeches to condemn hateful, radical, anti-American speech when he made what I call the “fizzled golden opportunity” speech concerning the Reverend Jeremiah Wright. That could have been one of the speeches of a lifetime to end racial divisions. Obama’s response – complete and utter failure. In addition, he soon had to return to the nation and condemn his grandfatherly preacher’s hate-filled rhetoric after the first speech had been aimed at defense of the divisiveness.

    Other missed opportunities: Response to the Ft. Hood massacre; Response to Christmas Day 2009 terrorist attack; Response to oil rig explosion and massive spill into the Gulf of Mexico; Ignoring and name-calling at the rising tide of a full-blown outrage against wasteful and reckless spending and various bailouts, buyouts, stimulation attempts, regulation arm-twisting, battering-ram tactics at legislation, etc., and the list goes on……

    We shall see what we shall see. For some strange reason, my woman’s intuition is alarming that I should prepare myself for another disappointment. The alarms are more along the lines of the severe weather warning siren that alerts to a coming tornado rather than a passing fire truck. My gut senses changes — but I can’t predict whether they will be good or bad changes.

    The fate of a nation rests on his choice of words, along with his oratory presentation. The stakes couldn’t be higher.

  25. I’m still praying to the God of Israel for a few well-placed and -timed lightning strikes.

    What the heck else can I do?

  26. and then there’s ron bloom obama’s car czar
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY6W9NUteAc

  27. David V,
    I was a Democrat in the past. I used to believe what they said. After 9/11 that changed. After seeing planes fly into buildings and a farm in Pennsylvania killing thousands of people I don’t dismiss anything. Considering who Barack Obama’s friends are, this is a possibility any honest law enforcement officer should look at. William Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Jane “Hanoi” Fonda blamed Sarah Palin the other day, her former husband Tom Hayden helped Obama get into the White House, Rashid Khalidi, Malik Shabazz, George Soros, Angela Davis…….Sounds like the Weather Underground has finally taken over the government.

  28. Hanoi Jane is a traitor in a huge way. Had she not been her father’s child she would have spent the rest of her life in jail. I cannot begin to tell you of the damage that she did to my generation. There is a special place for Hanoi Jane waiting in hell.

  29. Obama needs a good slaughter to be able to connect to the American people through talk? Obama is a liar, and very few people would believe a word he has to say. You can’t have sympathy for people, when you can’t even muster up some sympathy for the lives of the unborn.

    How much sympathy did he have for the men and women at Fort Hood – Hasan was treated as some guy with mental issues rather than a guy who was a muslim terrorist. I wouldn’t be making out this latest young man was just a nutjob who has mental issues – his problems extend much further than that, and it seems to me the democrats jumped on the republicans too damn quick for them not to be covering something up right from the get go.

  30. Any odds on a “sudden” attack on the President – to be blamed on “right-wing hate speech” loudly and often on the LSM?

    I saw a post a little while ago surmising that Osama bin Bama and his handler Soros are salivating over the idea of suspending habius corpus and/or declaring martial law.

    I poo pooed it at the time. Now…. not so sure. Scary. Very scary.

  31. I have to say that I consciously steer away from the conspiracy stuff and although I do think nothing about this administration is admirable, I can not go down the conspiracy road just yet. Although whats his name in a dumpster reminds me of Vince Foster.
    And I do think the current 22 AZ year old nut job is just a nut job. However, as you point out there is an awful lot of dead people.
    I honestly think the the current talking points coming from the left are aimed at and are successful at furthering the Progressive cause. And I think that could be by design.

  32. The question is do we have enough that would go along with this? Are there enough people in positions of authority who would step in? It’s 50/50 after seeing the way they handled his eligibility issue.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” ~Edmund Burke

    “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” ~Edmund Burke

  33. Let me just say this. I lived through the bombing here in my great city. I was appalled at how Waco was handled. And I was appalled that Timothy McVeigh used it to justify killing and maming people in Oklahoma City. But what I find reprehensible is that someone in the media could justify it and use it as a moment to make a President look good on the national stage. As if THIS President were the only one that can bring us together for a defining moment that in essence would make HIM look better for it politically. It is the most disgusting and irresposible thing I have ever heard of. And I truly question that persons mental capacity. It is not just a story that you can write words to and sit around a table with colleagues and discuss. This moment has affected REAL PEOPLE FOREVER. Lives were lost and families torn apart. It isn’t a movie script that you critique with your peers to fawn over the next day with. It is sickening for those people to think this kind of thought can become the norm. I question their wisdom and wonder if they have a soul?

  34. I think Obie will need a tad bit more than that.

    And Clinton reconnected with the people after OKC? I don’t seem to remember it that way.

  35. Obama says the U.S. “can absorb another [terrorist] attack.” And when you listen to the actual audio of his voice, he says it flippantly.

    Shootings, disasters, unrest: all part of the things that give O more control.

  36. Take a look at this:

    http://volokh.com/2011/01/10/jared-loughners-anti-war-views/

    So, in addition to burning American flags and laughing about abortions, among other things, Loughner believes that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are “war crimes,” 9/11 was an “inside job,” and dislikes Christianity and religion. He doesn’t really sound like a conservative supporter of the Tea Party and Sarah Palin, does he?

    The thing that aggravates me is that we really don’t have a choice but to attempt to rebut the ridiculously inaccurate and unfair narrative being put forth by the Left and their allies in the mainstream media. This guy was not a conservative nor was he someone who would support or be impacted by anything the Tea Party of Sarah Palin said or did. If anything, he has the profile of someone who would have shot Palin and Tea Party members. Once again, I think he was driven by mental illness to shoot Rep. Giffords and others, as overall he has no coherent political ideology, though he certainly appears to lean far more to the Left than the Right. All these idiots trying to still claim that Loughner was more aligned with conservatives should apologize for their attempts to falsely attribute the actions of this lunatic to conservatism.

  37. Put God first and do not fear. If God be for us who can be against us. Don’t worry, if you are one of Gods kids you have nothing to worry about. If your not , you should be. God will show his power in due time. Don’t worry, but pray like you never have before.

  38. You know what’s odd? That there were no blacks shot in Arizona. Coincidence? Yeah.

  39. Pima County AZ only has about 3% in AfAm population.

  40. Keep the video clips handy for a campaign ad.

  41. If Obama wants to connect to voters, he should open all his personal records. Nov 2 was his chance to connect with the voters, and he flunked. Elections are what real Americans use to authorize a mandate of law, not random acts of violance.

  42. Penn is a dweeb loser and the reason we have an anti-american posing as a president now. He’s the reason Hillary lost the caucuses.

    @Are they staged events? Maybe someone needs to be looking into it? That’s if we have anyone on the right side of the law anymore in this country.


    I can add to your list. Gwatney got murdered by a similiar “loner kook” and then the CHI Mafia murdered the murderer. The list is endless and it happens in bunches when they get desperate. They target anyone who is honorable and for the constitution.
    OF COURSE this is a set-up. Why no more mention of judge John Roll or the other guy found in the dump? See? Once they do their dirty work, they payoff the MSM to drop the issue. How many trajedies never make it to the news?

  43. A great part of America now understands that this president’s sense of identification lies elsewhere, and is in profound ways unlike theirs. He is hard put to sound convincingly like the leader of the nation, because he is, at heart and by instinct, the voice mainly of his ideological class. He is the alien in the White House, a matter having nothing to do with delusions about his birthplace cherished by the demented fringe.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703302604575294231631318728.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

  44. Is it a coincidence? Bill Daley comes to Washington and people start meeting their maker.

  45. #41 kansas

    I don’t really know what you’re trying to say here. Could you elaborate?

  46. Maybe Mr. Penn needs a refresher concerning the immense pain the OKC bombing caused before he cavalierly suggests we need another similar event just to boost his master’s poll numbers. One of my wife’s cousins was an OKC policeman at the time. He was near enough to feel the blast in his office. As soon as he arrived on the scene, still hazardous with smoke pouring out and debris falling, he immediately entered the rubble that had been the daycare center and spent the entire day carrying the mangled bodies of babies, infants, and children out of it. The remains of his neighbor, who had worked on the top floor, were removed from the rubble of the basement on the final day of recovery. The heroic efforts of many others are documented, and not one of them ever went into that death trap at risk of their own lives hoping to “boost any politician’s poll numbers.”

    I even have a page on my website dedicated to these heroes and to the victims. Some of the photos are breathtaking. Incidentally, April 19 was my mother’s birthday.

    A Tribute to the Oklahoma City National Memorial

  47. #49,Opaobie, your comment puts a face and story behind Penn’s horrible comment.
    The extremely sad part of that clip is that no one flinches when Penn made his insane comment.

  48. Shortly after 9/11, Dems were saying how unfortunate that it didn’t happen on Clinton’s watch so he could show everybody what a stud he was.

    That’s how leftists think. Other people’s suffering is good if it increases your political power.

    Because Dems think that way, they kept saying that GW Bush “concocted a war for political gain” — which was preposterous, because the outcome of war is too uncertain and because people (at least, normal people) don’t want to see other Americans killed. Where was the gain?

  49. Leftist thinking comes from the leftist mind, and nothing is granted higher honor. Bible? Dated myths. Koran? Fanciful moralizing. Constitution of the US? Old white men got lucky, stale and outdated now. They hold nothing in higher esteem than their own thoughts of the moment, the product of their own minds. Their best thinkers were polluted by post-modernist philosophical tripe, wherein the truth is what you say it is, all things are relative, nothing is static, and absolutely nothing is sacred. All is self-referential and self-centric, that is, if a leftist liberal thinks a thing, that thing is by definition true and right, for they respect nothing against which one might measure or test it.

  50. Radegunda @51 pointed out:
    ‘Shortly after 9/11, Dems were saying how unfortunate that it didn’t happen on Clinton’s watch so he could show everybody what a stud he was.’

    Yes, I remember that.

    ‘That’s how leftists think. Other people’s suffering is good if it increases your political power.’

    Bingo. Power is their motivating focus.

    ‘Because Dems think that way, they kept saying that GW Bush “concocted a war for political gain”’

    Yes. Basically, whenever they accuse the Right, they are voicing (and exposing) their own inner thoughts and desires. It seems obvious to them that someone would be deceptive, tyrannical and exploitive, because that is how they think themselves. This is called Projection.

    If anyone wants to see a full listing of the violent words and deeds of the Liberal Left, visit Michelle Malkin’s web site. She has compiled a catalog that takes at least twenty page-downs to scroll through. It’s astounding in itself.

    Best regards, Peter Warner.

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