Did Barack Obama Cause the Shootings Yesterday in Tucson?

Did Barack Obama cause the shootings yesterday in Tucson?


The media and democrats want us to focus on the nation’s “caustic political climate” after the tragedy yesterday. Maybe they should start with President Obama.
He may be the worst offender.

** Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”
** Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”
** Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
** Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard”
** Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.
** Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat
** Obama to lib supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”
** Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”
** Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”

If the media really wants to improve the “caustic political climate” they may want to start at the White House.

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  • Granny


  • willy

    Journalists urged caution after Ft. Hood, now race to blame Palin after Arizona shootings.

  • http://balloon-juice.com xian

    you’re really grasping at straws now. maybe time for you to “RE-LOAD!”?

  • gorgo

    If any human being apart from the shooter is responsible, it’s someone who says things like Obama has said.

    What Palin REALLY REALLY REALLY ought to do is Tweet these quotes of Obama’s and ask the left, “Now WHO is really to blame for promoting violence?”

  • Mahdi Al-Dajjal

    Saw a talking head on “Special Ed” Shultz’s program last night talking with Special Ed about how the Tea Party was a direct result of the shooting in Tucson yesterday.

  • pete t

    Nice try though

  • timwi

    Although he didn’t cause the shooting I think if we want to talk about toning things down the first place to start is with Barack Obama. The reason the last election happened is because Barack forgot that in the US we have a leader and not a king or a dictator. He still intends to rule us as if the rule of law, the people we elect, and we ourselves have no say in this country. He still intends to go around the constitution and avoid the rule of law and rule by edict. He still intends to use a small group of radical cohorts to impose and create a new America. Barack Obama is ruling this country through violence- the violence of absolute power. He also has an absolute lack of ability to censor his statements when not on teleprompter and frequently blurts out angry and violent statements that you would expect to hear from a low level Chicago activist in the streets. Barack Obama didn’t cause the mentally unstable young man to shoot anyone but he is certainly responsible for the state of discourse in this country.

  • NC Cop

    “Nice try though”

    Brilliant response.

  • Jeffery

    Jim Hoft has blood on his hands.

  • Jack

    Apparently, Daily Kos has scrubbed all references to this posting in June 2008….

    “…we can narrow the target list by looking at those Democrats who sold out the Constitution last week. I’ve bolded members of the Blue Dogs for added emphasis…”

    Rep. Giffords was one of the bolded Blue Dogs on the target list.

  • Chisum

    Xian @ #3,,

    Here you go.

    I found this list at JOM.

    Why don’t people who are so intent on blaming things politicians have said for this tragedy ever mention rhetoric from Democrats and liberals including:

    President Obama:

    “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama said in Philadelphia last night. “Because from what I understand, folks in Philly like a good brawl. I’ve seen Eagles fans.”

    “I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face.”

    Or John Kerry who said on the Bill Maher show: “I could have gone to 1600 Pennsylvania and killed the real bird with one stone.”

    Or Howard Dean “I hate the Republicans and everything they stand for…”

    and: “This is a struggle between good and evil and we’re the good?”

    and “we need to remember that the enemy here is George Bush, not each other.”

    Or Senator Chuck Schumer who called a flight attendant a “bitch.”

    Or the Florida Democrats who ran an ad calling for the assassination of Donald

    Or New York State Comptroller Alan Hevesi who called for Senator Schumer to “put a bullet between the president’s eyes?”

    Or Jonathan Chait who said “I hate President George W. Bush.”

    Or singer Rickie Lee Jones who aid of President Bush “You’re an ignorant, low-class, opportunistic man, both personally and politically, who does everything for political gain and nothing for the wellbeing of the people, and you should not be in office, and the kind of fascism you’re perpetrating on our country we don’t want, and you’re out. We’re done with you. Ffffhgggmm.”

    And when asked if she would be willing to take Bush out for the benefit of democracy? “If I say that, I might get arrested when I go back. And I have to go home.” She’s thinking it out carefully. “I guess the question is, would I kill anyone? And the answer is, no. But would I feel sorry if someone killed him? No, I wouldn’t. It would depend on who killed him, I guess.”

    Or “The Late Late Show with Craig Kilborn” where they superimposed the words “Snipers Wanted” over an image of Bush delivering his acceptance speech at the Republican convention.

    Or Nobel Peace Prize winner Betty Williams who said she could kill President Bush?

    Or Randi Rhodes who joked about killing the President?

    Or Reverend Wright who called Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, Condoskeeza [sic] Rice.

    Or England’s Charlie Brooker who wrote: “On November 2, the entire civilised world will be praying, praying Bush loses. And Sod’s law dictates he’ll probably win, thereby disproving the existence of God once and for all. The world will endure four more years of idiocy, arrogance and unwarranted bloodshed, with no benevolent deity to watch over and save us. John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr – where are you now that we need you?”

  • Henry Hawkins

    I am a forensic psychologist. I am credentialed and experienced in evaluating people for mental illness who’ve been convicted of a crime. I’ve been doing this all day, every day for decades. Since I began in 1984, I have evaluated at least… three dozen (?) people whose conviction was for killing someone, whether the charge was murder, manslaughter, etc.

    The meager info available on this shooter paints a clear picture of psychosis. Of that I am 100% certain. I am about 75% certain he is a schizophrenic, paranoid type. Typical age of onset for schizophrenia is the late teens, early twenties. The shooter is 22. Schizophrenia is negatively progressive. He likely will have experienced the first symptoms within the last five years, and he will have been slowly decompensating since then. He is not totally ‘nuts’. That he remained free and functioning to some degree indicates he hadn’t decompensated enough to draw the attention of authorities or to get himself committed. Yesterday that changed and that line was crossed.

    The shooter, like all schizophrenics in a similar place on the downward spiral through decompensation, made attempts to ‘reason’ out explanations for what was slowly happening to his mind. His mind was not completely befogged, and he would transit between normalcy and delusional thinking. Available info indicates delusions – primarily that the government is controlling his and others’ minds using English grammar. He has expressed other nonsensical delusions with a common thread that places blame on the government. He very likely was experiencing audio hallucinations – hearing voices. That which was still rational within him explained the growing irrationalites by developing paranoid delusions about government intrusions into his mind. The Catch-22 is that he is trying to explain his sickening mind with a sickening mind.

    We also have info that he had tried to enlist in the military and was denied, another motive to hate the government. Depending on the branch to which he applied, his earlier drug paraphernalia charge would be enough to preclude enlistment. The recruiter likely identified mental problems, another reason to deny entry.

    The likely salient points are this: he’s psychotic and slowly decompensating and is aware something isn’t quite right in his head. He is judging a sick mind with a sick mind, so the effort understandably goes haywire. Per schizophrenic symptomology, he develops delusions against the government, which are likely strengthened by his denial for military service. As he gets sicker, the world becomes scarier, and his paranoia grows. The Government begins to loom large as his primary enemy. Since he believes the government also controls other people’s minds, he may see himself as a martyr as he looks for ways to get back at the government, to defend himself from the government. This is the trajectory until yesterday.

    He likely saw a media report about Giffords’ public appearance. The report would have given date, time, and location. He decides now is the time to strike back at his persecutors, and perhaps he goes to defend other ‘victims’ as well, others controlled by the government. He locates the public event and starts shooting. It is horrible, but as simple as that.

    Politics, in the sense that normal, mentally healthy people engage in them, likely had absolutely nothing to do with this shooting. That element isn’t necessary. True political killings are exceedingly rare, their numbers miniscule factored against a population of over 300 million people. If controversial and heated politics led to killings committed by sane people, we’d be knee deep in bodies. It rarely happens.

    Thought experiment:

    Two elements: mental illness & political affiliation. We know the shooter is psychotic, deeply mentally ill. On that I’ll bet the farm. I’ll eat Keith Olbermann’s shorts if this shooter is not insane. Let’s also say the shooter is definitively a lefty. Lefty readers feel free to say the shooter is definitively a righty. Take your two-element pick: Crazy Lefty or Crazy Righty. Now….

    If you remove the political affiliation, make this crazy shooter nonpolitical, would the shooting have been more or less likely?

    If you remove the mental illness, make this Lefty or Righty shooter completely sane, would the shooting have been more or less likely?

    It is the mental illness that caused this shooting. While arguments can be made that the shooter leaned more this way or that on politics, there is no evidence those politics had any part in motivating the shooting. I strongly believe the reason the victims included a Congresswoman and a Federal judge is because they represented the evil government to the delusional shooter. This is indicated by the fact that the Congresswoman was a Democrat and the judge a Republican. Their political affiliations meant nothing to the shooter. That they were part of the government meant everything.

  • Ginger

    gorgo…if you tweet please do it. Give Sarah some amo to fight back. Someone send Sarah the target picture of Dail Kos where they show the names and picture of the congress woman and an arrow pointing at her name.

    I tried to get into Geraldo the liberal pigs e-mail but it is NOT allowing me. Some how I got that picture to Sean to pass on but tried again and all of a sudden word press will not let me?????

    I am going to try the link here just to see what happens. I am learning. :)


  • Granny

    Henry Hawkins, the real people you need to be saying all this too – because most of us happen to agree with you – are the talking heads, pundits, news announcers and even the occasional “law maker” who have laid this squarely on the doorstep of the Tea Party &/or Sarah Palin without so much as the first tiny shred of evidence.

  • Ginger

    404 ERROR…so are they blocking it now?

  • Henry Hawkins

    PS: The shooter is clinically insane, psychotic, of that I’m sure. He may or may not meet the criteria for legally insane, which is a legal assessment more than a psychiatric assessment.

  • Conservative to the Core

    Purely coincidently, a few hours after the shooting, Sarah Palin’s television show was “not renewed.”

    Sarah Palin’s Alaska Not Renewed: Report


    Meanwhile, Obama’s show remains with us.

  • Granny

    #13 – Ginger. You can’t access the file because somebody has removed it. Mustn’t leave evidence that anyone other than Sarah Palin or the Tea Party might be similarly or identically “responsible” you know. Perhaps someone was smart enough to screen cap it. Next time you come across something like that, take a screen shot of it. Firefox free add on Screengrab! works well on a Mac. There is also a similarly handy free add on for PC.

  • gus

    Where was the MEDIA and LIBTARDS when OBAMA was advocating VIOLENCE?

  • gus

    LIBTARDS put down the crack pipe and the Mad magazines, finish you Cocoa puffs, then try to show US……………ANYONE……in politics in the United States that advocated violence like Obama does.

    Peewee, you can join in after you nap.