Grasping. At. Straws.
The global alarmists at the UN conference in Cancun are suggesting that cutting carbon emissions will help with the obesity epidemic.

(Now Public)
Oh brother.
The Telegraph reported, via Free Republic:

The world needs to go on a “fossil fuel diet” to stop both climate change and obesity, according to health experts.

Professor Ian Roberts of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine said there is a direct correlation between and carbon emissions and expanding waistlines.

He said as soon as countries begin using cars and other energy intensive machines, it not only causes an increase in greenhouse gases but also in the population’s average weight, because people exercise less.

He said that the health problem was another reason to tackle carbon emissions.

“There is an almost linear relationship between carbon consumption and average BMI,” he said.

“The world is getting hotter and the world is getting fatter. Fundamentally fossil fuel energy is the cause of both.

Then again, if we’re forced to cut timber for firewood in the winter maybe we will lose some weight?

 

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  1. “The world is getting hotter and the world is getting fatter. Fundamentally fossil fuel energy is the cause of both.”

    Doggone fossil fuels giving people 24/7 access to affordable food!

    Stalin and Mao wouldn’t like this one bit.

  2. Hey, CO2 is increasing and temperatures are increasing thus global science indicates that the former causes the later!! Same must hold for obesity!! Science is so much easier to comprehend now vs when I was taking all of those tough science courses. Thank goodness for AGW!!!

  3. These are the same people who began with a prayer to a Mayan goddess. We all see how well those gods took care of the Maya, right?

    The entire thing is bunk, hokum and hogwash. And I say this as a scientist. We are getting fatter because of changes to our food supply & the way that we eat it and changes to our lifestyle.

  4. “Then again, if we’re forced to cut timber for firewood…”

    No, that’s not allowed, habitat destructuion and all that. The Green thing to do is die “…and decrease the surplus population.”

  5. Another prediction bites the dust.

    Alarmist Doomsday warning of rising seas ‘was wrong’, says Met Office study

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1335964/Alarmist-Doomsday-warning-rising-seas-wrong-says-Met-Office-study.html

  6. There is a school of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine?? How the heck did those 2 come together?

  7. Hmm… These scientists should probably research obesity more. They would find that its caused by fatty foods, not by carbon.

  8. ++

    A Brave New World Order

    Mike Wallace: “well then yet you seem to fear that it will be used in an evil
    way, why is it, that the right people will not, in your estimation, use them,
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    wrong motives”?”

    ==

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  9. #4 “The Green thing to do is die “…and decrease the surplus population.”

    I expect the alarmists to lead the way on that one.

  10. #6 December 6, 2010 at 8:47 am
    robh693 commented:

    There is a school of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine?? How the heck did those 2 come together?
    _____________

    There are actually two. We also have one – or at least we did – though ours is part of the military. The two came together as the UK and then the US stationed large numbers of troops in environments very different than our home environment.

    Many, perhaps most, of the discoveries that have been made in medicine concerning tropical diseases and most parasites have come from one or the other of these two “schools.” One of the most notable? The elimination of malaria from the continental US thanks to what had been learned when we were building the Panama Canal.

  11. I thought that eliminating school bake sales was the answer.

  12. #7 December 6, 2010 at 8:50 am
    John Stanford commented:

    Hmm… These scientists should probably research obesity more. They would find that its caused by fatty foods, not by carbon.
    ____________

    All “fat” – from the oil in the ground & the gas in your tank to the olive oil on your kitchen counter – is composed of hydro-carbon chains of molecules: 2 hydrogen atoms and a carbon atom arranged something like this H-C-H and then strung like a necklace with the C as a backbone. So, in that sense, “fat” certainly is caused by carbon.

    Carbohydrates are more complex. They are composed of carbon rings arranged in long chains. I can’t draw you one with the keyboard though. 6 carbon atoms bonded together in a ring with various stuff hanging off. This is the basic element of respiration in mammals.

    Gaining weight is not caused by eating fatty foods. You need a certain amount of fat to keep your cellular structures intact. Gaining weight is caused by having more nutrients available in your blood stream at any given minute than your body requires. When that happens, the area of your brain that is charged with regulation causes you to put the excess into storage for possible famine at some later date. This is one of the big problems with foods that are high in instantly accessible sugars. They circumvent the normal digestion time and pack extra calories into storage ————-> jeans don’t fit.

  13. Well sure, so will starvation … That’s what they want isn’t it? Reduce populations.

  14. The frequency with which Mr. Hoft raises issues which I was already recently pondering is uncanny.

    For example, a closely related issue that I was pondering just this past weekend is that, you know, in her new position as First Lady, Michelle Obama could have addressed such issues as the disproportionately high crime rate among blacks, the disproportionately high illegal drug useage by black, the disproportionately high number of black babies born out of wedlock to single black mothers, etc., etc., this nervy woman who claims that it wasn’t until her husband was elected POTUS that she became proud to be an American …., but, instead, that lazy, useless and decadent dilletante chose to waste her time addressing the esoteric issue of the obesity of children. That is bizarre. Like her dilletante husband, that fool has all of her priorities really screwed up, if they have any priorities at all, other than to create divisiveness and mayhem in this country.

  15. So how will our esteem Surgeon General Regina Benjamin weigh in on this:)

  16. Have you noticed how the global warmists are starting to sound just like the huckster salesman in that great Tom Waits song, “Step Right Up”? It’s amazing just how few words of the song need to be changed to sound just like them… Here goes:

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  17. ++

    Gary W #9

    re: [I expect the alarmists to lead the way on that one.]

    you mean these guys??

    Mother Earth rights and rights of all beings in Copenhagen Treaty

    Leftists Want to Grant Legal ‘Rights’ to Mother Earth

    UN

    ["My hope is that this charter will
    be a kind of Ten Commandments"

    ~ Mikhail Gorbachev

    "The real goal of the Earth Charter is that it will
    in fact become like the Ten Commandments"

    ~ Michael Strong

    "We are moving toward a New World Order, the world
    of communism. We shall never turn off that road."

    ~ Mikhail Gorbachev

    "The social experiment in China under Chairman Moa's leadership
    is one of the most important and successful in human history."

    ~ David Rockefeller]

    Islam

    [Today, the responsibility, which used to be laid at
    the door of God, is fastened on the shoulders of man.
    ]

    a few more:

    “A total world population of 250-300 million people,
    a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”

    ~ Ted Turner

    “In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people
    per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it is just as bad not to say it.”

    ~ J. Cousteau, 1991 explorer and UNESCO courier

    “We must speak more clearly about sexuality, contraception, about abortion, about values that control population, because the ecological crisis, in short, is the population crisis. Cut the population by 90% and there aren’t enough people left to do a great deal of ecological damage.”

    ~ Mikhail Gorbachev

    “World population needs to be decreased by 50%”

    ~ Henry Kissinger

    “If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to
    earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.”

    ~ Prince Phillip

    “Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing.”

    ~ David Brower, first Executive Director of the Sierra Club

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  18. People just need to eat healthy food and exercise, and parents needs to set the example for their kids.

  19. kids are fatter because the left took mom out of the kitchen. that and the computer. you can’t have it both ways. how is cutting carbon emissions going to get mom home to cook dinner or get the kids off the computer?

  20. “There is an almost linear relationship between carbon consumption and average BMI,” he said.
    ____________

    Rule 1 in any STAT101 course: CORRELATION DOES NOT EQUAL CAUSATION.

  21. The world is getting fatter because people are lazy. No law, no ban on foods, no whatever else will change that.

    People need a kick in the ass. When I was a kid we played outside almost every day.

    The world is NOT getting hotter.

  22. ++

    re: #17

    Gary W #9

    re: [#4 “The Green thing to do is die “…
    and decrease the surplus population.”]

    Breaking The War Mentality

    by Barack Obama
    March 10, 1983

    [In 1933 the German establishment thought it could use Hitler to restore a modicum of order to the confused and confusing Weimar Republic. In fact, Hitler did strengthen the German establishment, but not exactly in the way the bankers and businessmen had wanted; and now, fifty years later, it is clear who was using whom. Nevertheless, the Western World did not complain in 1933 because Hitler, though a fascist and a totalitarian, was seen, like countless American puppet dictators today, as someone who leaves the established order in place.

    Not so the Greens. If a group of young, anti-establishment pacifists wiith unusual ideas and uncomfortable answers to hard questions terrifies us more today than Hitler, Himmler, Goering and Goebbels did back in 1933, our terror says more about us than it does about the Greens or the Germans. It indicates that we have failed to comprehend the meaning of Nazism and blind obedience to authority in their full horror, and that we, unlike the Greens, have yet ourselves to learn the democratic lesson that we have taught the Germans so well.]

    The Greens

    An Economic Bill of Rights

    [*Universal Social Security: Taxable Basic Income Grants for all, structured into the progressive income tax, that guarantee an adequate income sufficient to maintain a modest standard of living. Start at $500/week ($26,000/year) for a family of four, with $62.50/week ($3,250/year) adjustments for more or fewer household members in 2000 and index to the cost of living.
    * Jobs for All: A guaranteed right to job. Full employment through community-based public works and community service jobs programs, federally financed and community controlled.
    * Living Wages: A family-supporting minimum wage. Start at $12.50 per hour in 2000 and index to the cost of living.
    * 30-Hour Work Week: A 6-hour day with no cut in pay for the bottom 80% of the pay scale.
    * Social Dividends: A "second paycheck" for workers enabling them to receive 40 hours pay for 30 hours work. Paid by the government out of progressive taxes so that social productivity gains are shared equitably.
    * Universal Health Care: A single-payer National Health Program to provide free medical and dental care for all, with freedom of choice for consumers among both conventional and alternative health care providers, federally financed and controlled by democratically elected local boards.
    * Free Child Care: Available voluntarily and free for all who need it, modeled after Head Start, federally financed, and community controlled.
    * Lifelong Public Education: Free, quality public education from pre-school through graduate school at public institutions.
    * Affordable Housing: Expand rental and home ownership assistance, fair housing enforcement, public housing, and capital grants to non-profit developers of affordable housing until all people can obtain decent housing at no more than 25% of their income. Democratic community control of publicly funded housing programs.]

    or those guys??

    oh wait..

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  23. #
    #20 December 6, 2010 at 9:55 am
    dwd commented:

    “There is an almost linear relationship between carbon consumption and average BMI,” he said.
    ____________

    Rule 1 in any STAT101 course: CORRELATION DOES NOT EQUAL CAUSATION.
    __________

    Rule 1.0001 in medical science – correlation less than 0.95 does not count. Anything less than 0.80 is only a maybe. And anything less than 0.50 is happenstance.

  24. ++

    the world is getting fatter due to all the additives in prepared
    foods designed to fatten US, ergo, the NWO has yet another
    reason to come about.. makes no sense, but it is what it is
    because the powers that be say so, hell=O??

    ==

  25. The divorce rate has also continued to climb. It MUST be because of global warming. What other cause could there possibly be?

  26. What about the rise in cell phone use? The rise in artificial sweeteners? The rise is reality tv shows? The rise in computer use? Surely, these have all contributed to global warming and obesity also!!!!

    The world is getting too stooooopid for the likes of me.

  27. My daughter is college has been trying to add 5 pounds for years. I also had trouble in college. My problem was playing tennis 8 hours a day in the summer heat. Hers is running 8 miles in the heat and doing the heptathlon. She is on a college track scholarship.

    Miss Oprah and Miss Michelle are exactly what is wrong with the culture. Pork sistas.

  28. ++

    seven #27

    re: [Miss Oprah and Miss Michelle are exactly
    what is wrong with the culture. Pork sistas.]

    best description i’ve ever run across!!

    ==

  29. How about ending busing children to school? We walked and we didn’t have the obesity problems we see today. Of course we also had pretty active Phy Ed classes that kept us moving.
    Then, when we got home from school and finished our homework and chores, we went outside and played.
    Sometimes the “problem” is so obvious and close we cannot see it.

  30. i don’t know what’s happening in the schools [being out of the loop and all] – but in the past [atleast] weren’t they dropping some of the outside games like dodgeball, etc because they were afaid that kids would get hurt or their egos damaged.
    [Children are active and they need play. More and more schools, under pressure to improve math and reading scores, are cutting recess time to allow for more reading and math time] maybe this has changed……
    http://www.suite101.com/content/recess-becoming-obsolete-a2098

  31. looking at those kids – good grief. poor parenting skills. never mind carbon emissions. i know people who consider driving through mc d’s to be supper and have goose egg cooking skills or interest. with the free breakfast, lunch and someplaces supper we have population of domestic cripples. i’m not that great in the kitchen myself but some of these guys make me look like betty crocker.

  32. oh and here’s a novel idea – personal responsibility.

  33. Cutting carbon emissions = less of everything to go around = life becoming a constant battle for food, fuel and the like = leaner, meaner people. Haven’t any of you folks kept up with the ‘Doomsday Scenario/End of the World As We Know It’ movies? The only fat people in those flicks are either working for whatever government is left or are the cannibals (or, more likely, both).

  34. The hair shirt greens driving their Priuses to the whole foods would actually prefer human starvation to human overconsumption.

    And to MANY of the greens, ANY consumption by humans is overconsumption.

  35. Have you ever noticed these globial warming folks never have their get togethers in Saint Paul. Too damn cold there. Cancun? They seem to prefer warming.

  36. That fat boy could wind up making a fortune working in advertisements for Michelin Tires

  37. If heating causes obesity how do these geniuses explain a sauna?

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