Woah!… Soros Group Says Obama Can Use Armed Forces to Push “Progressive” Agenda


John Podesta from the Center for American Progress released a report this week that, among other things, suggested that Obama can use the US Military to push the president’s radical totalitarian agenda.
The Blaze reported:

The liberal Center for American Progress doesn’t believe significant GOP gains in the House and Senate should stop the President from implementing more of his polices. The group released a report Tuesday suggesting ways Obama can bypass Congress to accomplish a progressive agenda, and it cites the president’s power as commander-in-chief to make its point.

“I think most of the conversation since the election has been about how President Obama adjusts to the new situation on Capitol Hill,” Center for American Progress head and former Bill Clinton Chief of Staff John Podesta told the Daily Caller. “While that’s an important conversation, it simply ignores the president’s ability to use all levels of his power and authority to move the country forward.”

How does one “move the country forward”? In the center’s report, Podesta explains that Obama can use executive orders, rulemaking, and even the armed forces “to accomplish important change” and that such means “should not be underestimated.”

What exactly does Podesta think the president should use such powers to “accomplish”? Among others, the report suggests “job creation,“ ”quality affordable health care,“ ”sustainable security,“ and ”a clean energy future.”

The report cites specific goals such as mitigating the effects of the military’s “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy, supporting a Palestinian state, and reducing greenhouse gasses by 17 percent by 2020.

The Center for American Progress was given a 3-year $3,000,000 grant by George Soros’ Open Society Institute in 2006.

Media Matters, the communication wing of the Center for American Progress, was given a $1,000,000 grant by George Soros in October.

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  • mueller

    Good thing we’re an armed society.

  • Honda

    Podesta thinks Obama’s playing with a straight flush, when in reality, he only has a pair of threes.

  • tarpon

    Yep, forgot to get the guns first didn’t they.

    Guns and ammo, the first thing to stock up on.

  • Flannery

    That could backfire if said armed forces decide to perform a coup. Just a point to note.

  • katy

    It’s time the Republicans bring Soros in front of congress and call a FULL SCALE INVESTIGATION on his Anti-US SUBVERSIVE activities!!!

    Jan 1st-# agenda.

    Nipping around the edges in an attempt to stop the onslaught WILL NOT WORK.

  • Insomniac

    Never fails. Scratch a “progressive” and you’ll find a totalitarian.

  • Granny

    Aren’t these the same people who screamed that all the comparisons between Obama & Hitler were ludicrous, over the top, downright hysterical? Seems pretty clear to me. Reichstag Fire Redux in 3. . . . 2. . . . 1. . .

  • Stuart

    Look at every thread on this blog. The first eight or nine have a common link. They are all assaults
    against the rights and dignity of the common citizen. This administration has decided to punish us for failing to go along with its policies. The TSA, the Justice department, a senators blatant disregard of the first amendment with regard to Fox News it’s all part of a larger pattern. Now Podesta recommends bringing in the military to enforce “sustainable security”. “Sustainable security is indeed the primary function of the armed forces, but look at the context in which this term is used. Fellow citizens, war has been declared upon US!

  • First, the military has no duty to follow illegal orders, and is in fact required by law and honor not to.
    Second, if you couple this with the Democrats call to take Fox off the air, by government force, and clearly there is truely a reason to worry.
    These are very likely trial balloons to see what the response might be. At the least, this reveals what Liberals/progressives are really thinking in private, and just how insecure they are with the political direction the country is now taking.

  • Locked, loaded, safeties off.

    Molon Labe you leftist bastards.

  • Espresso Logic – The 6th Sense

    Soros and Ovomit are two turds from the same pile of feces.

    Keep your powder dry.

  • Homer

    Brilliant!!! The left has come up with the perfect plan for getting rid of this thug… go for it Obama. Use the military to push your agenda…please do it now!

    Perfect plan to impeach and jail this punk. Thanks Podesta!

  • ohio

    Brings to mind that boy from Austria. What was his name? Oh yes, Adolph.

  • PCM

    Unlike the Vermacht, who took an oath of loyalty to Hitler personally, the US Armed Forces pledge their allegiance to the Constitution and not to any one person. I think Flannery#4 has a point.

  • gastorgrab

    THAT is a threat of violence against the American people!
    .

  • bigL

    Better start showing some guts, both you newly-elected GOPers. Change yr stripes you squish repubs.Figure out how to scuttle that Obama health plan. That is their holy grail and there are ways to disble it even if you have to block highway funds, or federal funds to states first. Lay waste. that is the key–killing that program. forget the commies, the financial for now. Kill that Health disaster.

  • Stan25

    If that happens, “Walks on Water” will definitely be impeached — the American people will see to that — and quite possibly lined up against a wall and shot if convicted of Treason by a jury. No matter that he is President, he has to follow the same laws Joe Sixpack does.

    George Soros should have his green card revoked and told to leave the United States immediately if not sooner. As a convicted Felon, Soros should not have been let in this country in the first place. Leon Panetta should also have his American Citizenship taken away and should be sitting in jail now.

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  • FU*K OBAMA

    You can always count on the leftards to begin the violence when they see that they are loosing. Imam Obama will soon be organizing a eichstag fire to begin the crush of opposition.

    Unfortunately for Imam Obama, the military will never follow his orders to turn on the American people and we have a 2nd amendment for just such a tryant.

    It is coming, everyone can feel the tension in the air.

  • BuddyG

    By any means necessary, huh?

  • TheTriGuy

    I hear all of you…and for the most part, I agree. These prods and pokes by Podesta and others are (at least for the moment and at least in my eyes) meant to see what type of a reaction his words will sti. If he gets people riled up enough he can turn the whole discussion topsy turvey and blame the Tea Party for all the unreast that will occur. That, at least in my opinion, gives this crew the opportunity to shut down political parties that oppose his thinking, close the media outlets that he says are stirring the unrest and then, as a long shot, postpone elections until civil order is restored. These type of things have been done by many leaders around the world in the past (and to some extent even in our own country by Lincoln and FDR).

    I hear all of you…but let’s slow down. Let’s not give them what they want.

  • Chisum

    What are they going to do, whine us to death?

  • Conservative Ken

    Hey, they just want to create the same social environment that created Hitler, that’s all. Thank God for the Second Amendment, we can shoot back.

  • Good God!!!

    When I posted Thinking the Unthinkable back in April, I feared that I may have gone too far and been a bit over-the top.

    Instead, I may have been lacking in imagination. 🙁

  • @Flannery:
    That could backfire if said armed forces decide to perform a coup. Just a point to note.
    ===

    My thoughts exactly, Flannery. I would support an overthrow of the communist-marxist regime squatting in the people’s White House and a special election to elect a new POTUS (especially one who meets all the requirements per the US constitution).

    Let ’em try violence. We the people won’t stand for it.

  • Rock

    Note this BS and write your representatives today, and ask why this is acceptable.
    As for John the traitor Podesta he needs to be brought up on charges, probably not going to happen as long as Holder controls the Justice Department.
    It seems we are fast approaching the point where the Military must take a side. While #14 has a point, pretty much the same oath they have taken is also taken by those in DC and we see what a$$ they have backed. Of course there is one big difference, those in the military are willing to risk their lives to honor that oath, elitist on the other hand are only willing to risk the life of others.

  • kumayama

    At first this article looks like one of many good ones in the vein of “worrisome stuff BHO & his pals are planning.”

    After reading it, this seems to me more powerfully horrifying than most anything else I have read on this impostor president in a long while. I hope readers will send this to everyone they know.

    In addition to the basics: emergency plans, prep, and purchases for you and your family, please look into Oath Keepers. I checked them out for quite a while prior to joining—I have an aversion to over-the-top paranoid/nutty groups, of any stripe. From what I found, Oath Keepers is not that kind of organization, but do your own investigation.

    Basically, O.K. strengthens the knowledge and resolve of sworn personnel (all branches of the military, police, fire, emergency medical, etc) to uphold the oath they took to protect our Constitution against all enemies, foreign & domestic. Civilians are welcome, as well.

    They post a list of ten orders they will never obey. It is thought provoking just to read the list. The first one: “We will NOT obey any orders to disarm the American people.”

  • bg

    ++

    uh, i believe some crazy old lady that annoyingly posts
    here has more or less posted about that time & again..

    just a sample (pardon any repeats):

    all part of the plan to annihilate via incorporating US troops
    into a UN Peace Corps aka: Global Civilian Security Force..

    Barack Obama explains the virtue of global citizenship

    “citizens in uniform”

    [The armed forces, therefore, according to the decree issued by Chávez last July 22nd, in the practice will be responsible for enforcing by means of arms the failed socialist constitutional reform. To that end, in order to dilute the country into its militia-like organization, will “prepare and organize the people for integral defense.” In addition, it will “forge alliances or coalitions with the armed forces of foreign countries.” The ongoing military revolution will have not borders. At the end, there is one single purpose -retired military officer Chávez Frías will boast his five-sun insignia appropriate for his new rank of commander in chief, awarded by himself, and not by the grace of God.]

    Obama’s ‘Civilian Security Force’

    [Advocates of limited government are concerned about comments by Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) regarding his national service plans and views on the “burden of global citizenship.”]

    Senator Obama, Citizen of the World

    [European socialists and Middle Eastern Muslims are wildly enthusiastic about Senator Obama, because he styles himself a citizen of the world who, like all liberal- progressive- socialists, aims for world government.

    American liberal- progressive- socialism, in the person of Senator Obama, is a carbon copy of European socialism, and Islamic jihadists recognize that socialism offers no opposition to their ruthless jihad to enslave the entire world.

    For historical perspective, let’s look to one of France’s leading socialist theoreticians, the late Jean- François Revel. As I wrote at the time of M. Revel’s death in May, 2006:

    Jean- François Revel, who died last week at the age of 82, was that exceedingly rare person: a French intellectual who didn’t despise the United States, an intellectual who understood the cancerous prognosis of liberalism.

    Revel’s 1983 “How Democracies Perish” described liberalism’s debilitating effect on confronting the threat of domination by the Soviet Union. His observations apply equally today in our long-term struggle against Islamic jihad.]

    RTWT!!

    ‘Consequence Management Response Force’

    [The Cato Institute published this warning when the program was launched in its first phase in 2008 (the program has been updated and expanded since 2008). The Founders insisted that standing armies were never to be used against American citizens on our own soil, no matter what violations of this principle have occurred in the years following. In the spirit of the Patriots and of real journalists government must be questioned constantly and held to intense scrutiny in order to preserve liberty.]

    Global Socialism

    aah yes, unfortunately there’s more, some of which we
    EVIDENTLY wouldn’t believe even if they told US.. gah!!

    AND PEOPLE FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE HE’S BEEN A RAVING MANIAC BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE DEMS LOST SO MUCH IN THE ELECTIONS.. AAH, SO MUCH FOR BEST LAID PLANS, BUT DON’T THINK FOR ONE IOTA OF A SECOND THIS ONE CENTIMETER AWAY FROM BEING DECLARED A MADMAN GENIUS HASN’T GOT A BACK-UP OR TWO, AND NONE TOO PRETTY FOR SURE..

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    re: #28

    oh crap!!

    posted one too many links again.. gah!!

    ==

  • Militant Conservative

    WE THE PEOPLE ARE THE MILITARY. These dunce’s don’t even know that the people in the military detest heir leader. I have enough for a small war, I know many others with the same. First move I would make is to raid an
    armoury. Your not able to pull this off due to the freedoms we have at our disposal. powder is dry.

  • bg

    ++

    re: #28

    [Again, M. Revel’s assessment clarifies and amplifies both liberal-progressive-socialist denunciation of President Bush’s foreign policies and the implications of world government espoused by Senator Obama:

    …we can conclude that the abolition of what we call foreign policy will be one of the essential components of the future world revolution. And it will also be the key to all other changes that constitute the revolution…The second world revolution will therefore consist in putting an end to that notion which is the source of all evil: the notion of national sovereignty…only multilateral agreement on reciprocal controls, leading to planetary multinational law, will allow us to escape safely from this absurd situation. Bilateral accords must be avoided like the plague, for they are only the framework for warlike foreign policies, local hegemony, or imperialistic domination…

    Whether one supports the liberal-progressive agenda or not, there must be clear-eyed recognition that it is pushing the United States toward abolition of national sovereignty. From Supreme Court advocacy of international and foreign country law as superseding the Constitution, to “sensitive” foreign policy that must be pre-approved by the UN, we are barreling down the slippery slope to socialist impoverishment and domination by foreign powers.]

    uhm, i honestly don’t get it.. sorry but Obama cannot be the ONLY one
    causing all this change, there has to be a major force behind him, well,
    we know there is elsewhere, but i’m talking right here in the US of A..

    ==

  • squeaky

    [Steve Kest, who was executive director of the organized crime syndicate ACORN, has become a senior fellow at John Podesta’s Center for American Progress.] what a den of thieves.
    http://www.capitalresearch.org/blog/2010/10/11/acorn-executive-director-joins-center-for-american-progress/

  • squeaky

    OT – but when things and people don’t make sense
    [CHICAGO (Reuters) – More than 45 million Americans, or 20 percent of U.S. adults, had some form of mental illness last year, and 11 million had a serious illness, U.S. government researchers reported on Thursday.] to put a little light on todays events.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101118/us_nm/us_usa_mentalhealth

  • bg
  • Oldpuppymax

    The armed forces? Oh please. As the majority are republican voters, Hussein will have a real picnic trying to get soldiers to fire on the American people!! In any event, like a typical leftist, Soros would be hiding in another country if shooting really DID start. And Hussein would be his house guest.

  • Granny

    bg #31 – did you happen to notice the story yesterday re George Soros saying essentially that since Obama isn’t cutting it they’ll have to get somebody else? Here is his statement on video-

    http://www.americablog.com/2010/11/soros-if-obama-cant-do-what-we-need-its.html

  • squeaky

    #34 November 18, 2010 at 2:19 pm
    bg commented
    ahhhh hypocrisy…we have an overload. hypocrisy is the opposite of integrity [another lost value].

  • Huh? How’s the military going to create jobs? Or pass bills like cap and tax? That’s utter crap; the only use that Soros would have for our military is . . . what? A coup? The man’s out of his mind. This is America not some backwater banana republic. And our military are men and women of honor, and the idea that they would run around like brain-dead automatons programmed by Soros and following an insane CIC’s order is just . . . ridiculous.

  • Granny

    Fuzzy #38 – I guess that the military could “create jobs” as concentration camp guards after they lock up everyone who objects.

  • bigL

    Podesta is tight with the clintoons. Hilary is all involved with the Plestinians. In fact there was a plan that brought over reefugees from Pal to live here. It was a senate bill . I don’t know if it has happened yet but those are the troops. And like the Iranians–the Rev guard…brought in troops from the outer provinces and they killed the locals. see, tjhey don’t know them and they are dirt to them. Palis don’t know americans, we are infdels anyway tothem,.
    also there are the illegal aliens that are being ginned up and have been set up to fight, A lot are already gang members and are armed. There is a reason the Commies/ donks are aligned with them.. this may be it.

  • jimg

    Once again, another Leftist – or in this case, a bunch of Leftists – running their mouths threatening violence.

    And once again I say, wake me up when they actually do something.

    Until then, it’s just a bunch of cowards flapping their gums.

  • Granny

    Remember seeing TheWon with the Halo? Well now Newsweek is portraying him as Shiva, the Hindu God of Destruction –
    http://snardfarker.ning.com/profiles/blogs/obama-on-the-cover-of-newsweek

    Subtitle says “presidency may be too much for one man to handle”. Luckily the Constitution doesn’t allow for a Co-president.

  • Jean

    It’s not the military we have to worry about ~they would NEVER enforce martial law against innocent U.S. citizens ~it’s the Regular Corps we need to worry about. Regular Corps was hidden on page 496 in the health care bill. Take a look at YouTube: USA Fema camps – Police state. Then take a look at @ youtube: Larry Grathwohl on Ayer’s plan for American re-education camps and the need to kill millions. Then Google: Club of the Isles. Here’s a good link, especially last two paragraphs: http://american_almanac.tripod.com/largest.htm

  • Muffin

    Soros is dumping every dime he has acquired illegally or otherwise to end the republic. Traitor.

  • Don Rodrigo

    All of you are aware that these discussions have been had in the White House recently, and not just at some moonbat conference? The WH staff and Obama have already been exploring how much they can get away with by executive order.

    All of you are also aware that Soros was a Nazi collaborator who turned in fellow Jews? That he was 14 and working under his father doesn’t matter, because being 14 in war-torn eastern Europe and collaborating to have people arrested and killed is not kid’s stuff. Also, and more importantly, he has expressed no remorse, and said so publicly on the Charlie Rose show.

    To compound the depraved creepiness of this man, he 1) favors euthanizing ‘useless’ old people, and 2) makes his money by manipulating financial markets, always the most likely way to cause economic catastrophes. He is a menace, and must be dealt as such.

  • bg

    ++

    Granny#36

    no, but i thought KO was KO’d??

    at any rate, i don’t listen to people who read off of a script, a second hand one at that..

    Soros says a lot of things, so does Obama, if we listen carefully to them (firsthand), we can hear the truth in between the lines ringing loud & clear, problem for too many people, like those who don’t read past a headline, is their critical thinking stops there..

    btw, if you listened to KO, he says some intersting things towards the end, almost as if he’s exposing a Soros & Obama scheme, go fig..

    [“Mr. Soros fully supports the president as the leader of the Democratic Party,” said Vachon. “He was not suggesting that we seek another candidate for 2012. His comments were made in a private, informal conversation that was about the need for progressives to be more forceful in promoting their agenda. He was stressing the importance of being heard by elected officials.”]

    disclaimer: i have no doubt Soros would not onl;y drop Obama
    like a stone, but have him assassinated if it furthered his goal..

    btw, his goal, and that of many of his fellow elites, not to mention one being his long time pal Maurice Strong.. is the NWO, something i’ve posted about at length in here again & again, but hey, who believes in that crap right?? imho, same goes for their cohort Islamists, which if anything, is exactly how & why they a have been getting away with making dhimmis out of US, we’re the ones who’ve been kept too easily distracted, not to mention worried about keeping roofs over our heads, or putting food on the tables, or maybe even too freakin’ depressed to notice, never mind care.. gah!!

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    re: bg #46

    dip, hope i get used to this new forum, keep making trypos, etc, not to mention posting too many links or forgetting to post them at all lol.. ala:

    Granny#36

    and Soros aka: the man who owns the Dems..

    ==

  • Nance

    A comment on this article made at The Blaze questioned why these comments were made “in public.” Most of the liberal/progressive unconstitutional legislation has been made behind closed doors with Republicans locked out. People are upset and we, the people, have taken our grievances to our representatives, to the streets in peaceful protests, and to the voting booth. They are desperate to push forward their agenda, by any means necessary. They are being exposed more and more, day by day, increasing the tensions. “Push, push, nudge, nudge.” Chaos is needed to finish their agenda. Wake up! Stand up! Hold our representatives’ feet to the fire. Push back. And just don’t say “no,” say “Hell, NO!”

  • Granny

    Don Rodrigo commented:

    All of you are aware that these discussions have been had in the White House recently, and not just at some moonbat conference? The WH staff and Obama have already been exploring how much they can get away with by executive order.

    All of you are also aware that Soros was a Nazi collaborator who turned in fellow Jews? That he was 14 and working under his father doesn’t matter, because being 14 in war-torn eastern Europe and collaborating to have people arrested and killed is not kid’s stuff. Also, and more importantly, he has expressed no remorse, and said so publicly on the Charlie Rose show.

    ______________

    Under Judaism one becomes a moral/spiritual adult at age 13. According the Christian tenet, the age at which one becomes responsible for one’s moral actions is 7. In the 1940s fourteen year olds, both here and in Europe, married, took jobs to support their families and were drafted by the Nazis as soldiers and slave laborers. The entire idea that one is a “child” until, apparently these days, well into one’s twenties is the modern invention of a state that is trying to make all citizens dependent on the state.

    Yes, I’ve heard about the discussions re how far can you go by Executive Order. As far as I’m concerned ANY executive order other than those produced in a dire emergency is unconstitutional.

  • bg

    ++

    Don Rodrigo #45

    well aware of that, and a heck of a lot more..

    but thanks to our corrupted MSM & talking heads et
    al, most people are more aware of American Idol..

    btw, don’t believe Soros’ father had anything to do with his working for the Nazis, except for the fact that he was just another influential lawyer who bribed an official.. /s/

    ==

  • wow

    #42 November 18, 2010 at 3:10 pm
    Granny commented:

    That is disgusting and frightening. To make a long story short: my parents survived WWII, settled here. Needless to say we know what they went through. My husband and I and family were in Venezuela when Chavez came to power. The signs are eerily similar. People there also said it wouldn’t and couldn’t happen. I doubt they would say that today. He purged the higher echelons of the armed forces and put his puppets in place — and the soldiers just did as ordered. Yes, I realize that we are an independent lot and don’t like to be told what to do, but the undermining was very insidious — morale breaking… until there really was no on to resist. To say that I am uneasy is an understatement.

  • mueller

    Lets do a little simple arithmetic.
    100,000,000 firearms in the hands of citizens.(conservative number)
    say 50 million people 50,000,000-two guns per person(conservative number)
    If only five percent of those people decided they would actively pursue their freedoms;
    2.5 million 2,500,000 armed citizens ready to do battle.
    Any armed tyrannical takeover of U.S. citizens by their government would last about ten minutes.

  • Andreas K.

    I like the idea of a “global civilian security force” or some kind of “UN peace corps”

    Should make it easier for me and a friend of mine to take over a country for each one of us.

    Face it: “civilian” and “security” force. If they’re be just remotely like the UN “troops” right now… Oh dear. Hitler might come back from the dead and take over the world. And if not him, nutjobs like the mullahs in Iran or whatever-Kim in North Korea would abuse it at once. It’d be like stealing candy from a quadriplegic, deaf, mute and blind baby. You’d have to be a fool to not try and take over the world should that happen.

    Even in the very unlikely case that Obama would succeed (no matter how foolish this endeavor would be)… what would it change on the long run?

    Nothing.

    Such systems ALWAYS collapse. And well, one day Obama will die. He can conquer the world, but he’d still be toast after a couple of decades. Too bad for him, he can’t take with him when he dies.

    So… Let them try. Smarter and more dangerous people have tried before them, and every single one has failed.

  • Joanne

    I’m thinking they are thinking Obama could use the U.S. military to keep those conservative, Christian right-wing extremists in line. The Obama administration are humiliating the people of the United States with these virtual strip searches and physical molestations – I’m sure they believe the sky is their limit. It is time for Obama to go. The Republicans control the House – it is time for Obama to prove his eligibility or be thrown out. Rise up America and throw the usurper out.

  • Joanne

    Just look at the British police when those muslims broke the two minute silence during Remembrance Day in London this year. Who did they arrest but the British themselves for being upset with the muslims and their spitting on the war dead. It could happen anywhere. The British police are a disgrace – the only thing they will take time off work for is to demonstrate in the street for better pay, but not for the soul of England.

  • bg

    ++

    mueller #52

    may add up on paper, but think logically..

    if anything, they would probably go block
    by block aka: sectioning off so to speak..

    but regardless, question is: where, how,
    and do all these people come together??

    i just hope & pray we have lots of people who
    have folowed Lt Col. Allen West advise!! 🙂

    ==

  • Granny

    #51 November 18, 2010 at 4:09 pm
    wow commented:

    #42 November 18, 2010 at 3:10 pm
    Granny commented:

    That is disgusting and frightening. To make a long story short: my parents survived WWII, settled here. Needless to say we know what they went through. My husband and I and family were in Venezuela when Chavez came to power. The signs are eerily similar. People there also said it wouldn’t and couldn’t happen. I doubt they would say that today. He purged the higher echelons of the armed forces and put his puppets in place — and the soldiers just did as ordered. Yes, I realize that we are an independent lot and don’t like to be told what to do, but the undermining was very insidious — morale breaking… until there really was no on to resist. To say that I am uneasy is an understatement.
    __________

    Wow, one of the things I have been saying for years now – well over a decade – is that this generation of children, including the ones just now coming to adulthood, will have literally no conception of what our freedoms mean.

    They have systematically denied Freedom of Speech from their earliest days in service to “political correctness.” They have been searched & seized since the day they entered school, with some schools going so far as to require clear back packs. Worst of all, they have been subjected to NO TOLERANCE about everything from plastic picnic knives and toy guns to the type of clothing they wear. In short, they are being taught to toe the party line, to never have an original thought, to do exactly as told. They have been, for the most part, turned into sheep.

    All too many of them believe that “Freedom of Speech” means freedom from offense and that one must never disagree with those in authority. Freedom of Religion means that one must not subject others to your religion, not the freedom to practice your religion openly.

    I am very, very afraid for our children.

  • Valerie

    Anybody else remember what the Russian army did when they were called upon to intervene in a political matter? And when Nixon would make improper demands?

    The same would happen here, now, although Eric Holder would convey a n order Hillary would not.

    BO might “further the progressive (socialist) agenda” by signing an executive order re DADT, and that’s about it.

    Odd, isn’t it, that the kind of people who think that terrorists should be tried in civilian courts also think that there is no impediment to the President’s use of US troops against US citizens on US soil.

  • bg

    ++

    re: #56

    i firmly believe what this mans said..

    PLEASE LISTEN TO HIS EVERY WORD CAREFULLY..

    especially the part about foreign troops occupying the US..

    ==

  • and the Dark Siders (Lucifer’s Kids) stated that the Oath Keepers were a radical group!! Soros is a Dark Sider…who wants control of others…

    ..to Protect and Defend the Constitution –
    http://oathkeepers.org/oath/
    C-CS

  • donh

    Using the military to create job camp sites for the cheap assembly of windmills. Sounds like something the Germans tried years ago …. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnyLaYPfjHE

  • Redwine

    The “soft” tyranny is now giving way to the “hard”, full-fledged tyranny.

    As these calls from the far left for Emperor Hussein to use armed forces and executive powers to override Congress and the powers of the shadow government of “czars” to further oppress American citizens, the regime enforces and entrenches its control and power by fiat through TSA actions by the DHS under the guise of “security”and the implementation of Obamacare, under the guise of “health care” will give the government full control our lives from cradle to grave. Sociopaths in positions of power, like Donald Berwick, Ezekiel Emanuel, Cass Sunstein, Robert Creamer, Eric Holder and Janet Napolitano are put in charge of our lives.

    While ordinary citizens are subjected to government-sanctioned intimidation, their rights to peace and security are about to be further eroded when thousands of acres of New Mexico land along the border is about to be turned into government land, so that terrorists and illegals can more easily enter the US unimpeded.

    It’s all about POWER and CONTROL. This is full-fledged tyranny.

    Soros needs to be stripped of his US citizenship and put on trial for treason. I won’t spell out what should be done to his enforcer. We don’t have 2 years to stop this.

  • wow

    #57 November 18, 2010 at 4:35 pm
    Granny commented:

    Two words come to mind: deluded sheep. I find education here, after my absence of a number of years, to be very, very monotonous, for lack of a better word. We train, we do not teach our young to think any more, and much less to search for knowledge to delve into things to see where our inquisitiveness will lead us.

  • bg

    ++

    Valerie #58

    with all due respect, and i pray you are spot on..

    however, look around you, have you noticed any changes since 74, or any that may have taken place since Obama was selected to pose as the president of the US??

    and a partial quote from Nixon just for the heck of it..

    “You won’t have Nixon to kick around any more,”

    ==

  • AuntieMadder

    Katy #4 – Right on.

    Don Rodrigo #45 – His lack of remorse is criminal. IMO, whatever he or any other 14 year old Jewish kid had to do to survive Hitler’s Nazi Germany shouldn’t be held against him/them to this day. That was a long time ago and following their caregivers’ lead is part of kids’ survival instinct – it’s what keeps us (humans) alive until we can do for ourselves. For most of us, however, if we’d been led or instructed at 14 to harm others by our parents/caregivers, we’d feel remorseful later in life. Some would spend their lives trying to make amends or atone themselves while others would try to forget about it and leave the past behind them. (A public figure would be forced to go the atonement/make amends path, for obvious reasons.) All would carry the guilt. All, that is, except for the sociopaths, who don’t feel guilt and remorse because they lack empathy, which is the root of sympathy, pity, compassion, guilt, etc.

    Soros is the devil.

  • As if our Military will EVER take inane orders against the American people from a CiC they can’t stand. Podesta is one big wingnut — —Curious….why is it ok for the left to talk about using military force against its own citizens but when Palin says” don’t retreat, reload “- its a crime against humanity.

    Podesta needs to be put out to pasture like the cow that he is…

  • Lindsey Lohan

    This comment about using the military was let out as a trial balloon. It’s to get people used to hearing such things over and over and dismissing them. And also as a signal to their people around the country. They’re saying: Get ready. Trouble’s coming and we’re going to start it. Glenn Beck has been DEAD RIGHT about everything he’s predicting. Amazing. We better keep the heat on the Republicans in Congress to fight for us every step of the way while we prepare to win more seats in 2012.

  • Bring it on b*tch

    Mr. Soros hasn’t visited shooting ranges in The South lately, has he? Every weekend they’re chock full of semi-autos and bolt actions. You see. Here in the south, we hunt and stalk live animals, including large predators which are faster and more cunning than a human being. What the hell does he think a bunch of city-dwelling libs are gonna be able to do against that?

    Hell most of the military comes from fly-over country, the same part of the U.S. which voted out the libs on Nov 2. Does he really think those military personnel will turn on their own families and friends to push Obama’s agenda?

    Better think again, George.

  • #36 @Granny

    why should GP readers (non lefties) believe ANYTHING over at ‘americablog.com’ which is obviously leftist lies and propaganda?

  • bg

    ++

    Andreas K. #53

    re: [Smarter and more dangerous people have
    tried before them, and every single one has failed.}

    oh yes, and every single one was just as costly as the other..

    murder by UTOPIANISM by any other name

    [But communists could not be wrong. After all, their knowledge was scientific, based on historical materialism, an understanding of the dialectical process in nature and human society, and a materialist (and thus realistic) view of nature. Marx has shown empirically where society has been and why, and he and his interpreters proved that it was destined for a communist end. No one could prevent this, but only stand in the way and delay it at the cost of more human misery. Those who disagreed with this world view and even with some of the proper interpretations of Marx and Lenin were, without a scintilla of doubt, wrong. After all, did not Marx or Lenin or Stalin or Mao say that. . . . In other words, communism was like a fanatical religion. It had its revealed text and chief interpreters. It had its priests and their ritualistic prose with all the answers. It had a heaven, and the proper behavior to reach it. It had its appeal to faith. And it had its crusade against nonbelievers.

    What made this secular religion so utterly lethal was its seizure of all the state’s instrument of force and coercion and their immediate use to destroy or control all independent sources of power, such as the church, the professions, private businesses, schools, and, of course, the family.]

    this time is different however, when the time comes Obama has
    all sides set to do battle if necessary, Islamists, Marxists, Black
    Liberationists
    ,

    to be continued due to number of links..

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    re: #70 continued..

    NOI, Black Panthers, etc, etc, etc..

    small world trivia: al-Mansour aka: Don/ald Warden (helped establish BPP), Jeremiah Wright (ex-muslim, black nationalist, Farrakhan supporter), and Malik Zulu Shabazz (ad who knows who else) attended Howard University..

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    uhg re: bg #56

    question is: where, how, and WHEN
    do all these people come together??

    sorry about that..

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    Bring it on b*tch #68

    kudos!!

    me thinks Soros, who fancies himself playing god, is facing the reality
    of his mere mortality, ergo, is in a race against the clock so to speak..

    ==

  • martha

    For anyone who doubts that what Podesta is suggesting is not possible, please think back to Obama’s reaction to the Honduras and Iranian election situations.
    Whose side was Obama on with those 2 events?
    The Honduran thing was the first indication that we were in serious serious trouble IMHO

  • bg

    ++

    Jean #43

    UN

    [“My hope is that this charter will
    be a kind of Ten Commandments”

    ~ Mikhail Gorbachev

    “The real goal of the Earth Charter is that it will
    in fact become like the Ten Commandments”

    ~ Michael Strong

    “We are moving toward a New World Order, the world
    of communism. We shall never turn off that road.”

    ~ Mikhail Gorbachev

    “The social experiment in China under Chairman Moa’s leadership
    is one of the most important and successful in human history.”

    ~ David Rockefeller]

    Islam

    [Today, the responsibility, which used to be laid at
    the door of God, is fastened on the shoulders of man.
    ]

    evidently Obama & the powers that be believe the New
    World Order rests upon his messianic shoulders.. /s/

    a few more:

    “A total world population of 250-300 million people,
    a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”

    ~ Ted Turner

    “In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000
    people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it is just as bad not
    to say it.”

    ~ J. Cousteau, 1991 explorer and UNESCO courier

    “We must speak more clearly about sexuality, contraception, about abortion, about values that control population, because the ecological crisis, in short, is the population crisis. Cut the population by 90% and there aren’t enough people left to do a great deal of ecological damage.”

    ~ Mikhail Gorbachev

    “World population needs to be decreased by 50%”

    ~ Henry Kissinger

    “If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to
    earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.”

    ~ Prince Phillip

    “Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless
    the parents hold a government license. All potential parents should
    be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing.”

    ~ David Brower, first Executive Director of the Sierra Club

    ==

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  • Valerie

    bg,

    There are more restraints now on the President and Congress than there used to be, because the news gets out. You are part of that.

    If BO runs for re-election, I am going to enjoy seeing re-runs of his greatest hits.

  • Valerie

    And…..George Soros is a European. He has no clue about how a democracy runs. Neither does Arianna Huffington.

  • don

    this is why we need to support RAP (restore America plan)
    get the US back to what the founding fathers made for us

  • Retro

    I would think that 99% of the U.S. Military would tell the commander in chief to go to hell!
    the thought of the POS being commander in chief sends cold chills up my spine

  • it would only be fitting for soros, and podesta to lead the o’commiecorps into battle, you know il douche doesn’t have the guts to do it!

  • Midwestengr

    Granny #57.

    Don’t be afraid for all children of this generation. There are “kids” out there who do understand what is going on believe it or not! I can honestly say there aren’t as many as twenty something years ago, but they are out there. These few will be the leaders of tomorrow, that, I am sure of.

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  • pnipni

    The new Republican majority needs to aggressively and publicly investigate The Center for American Progress, incl. John Podesta,
    H. Clinton and all the key players there.

    George Soros should be treated as an Enemy of the State and kept under investigation by the FBI and make it public. These people act best in the dark.

    Blogs like this and our New Repub Majority can make a big difference, like Glenn Beck does; by keeping their nefarious plans in the spotlight.

    and would some politician please have the guts to FORCE the immediate enforcement of our Federal Immigration Law! and deport all of the Illegals. No “bleeding heart” Liberal sob stories! Take Obama’s army away from him!

  • AuntieMadder

    Here we go again.

    The US is not a democracy. The Founding Fathers of America rejected democracy in favor of a republic form of government.

    “A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.” – Thomas Jefferson

    “The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.” – Thomas Jefferson

    Dr James McHenry: “Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?”
    Benjamin Franklin: “A Republic, if you can keep it.”

    “We are now forming a Republican form of government. Real Liberty is not found in the extremes of democracy, but in moderate governments. If we incline too much to democracy, we shall soon shoot into a monarchy, or some other form of dictatorship.” – Alexander Hamilton

    “Democracy is the road to socialism.” – Karl Marx

    We Social-Democrats always stand for democracy, not “in the name of capitalism, ” but in the name of clearing the path for our movement, which clearing is impossible without the development of capitalism. Lenin, Letter to Inessa Armand (1916)

    “Social-Democracy, however, wants, on the contrary, to develop the class struggle of the proletariat to the point where the latter will take the leading part in the popular Russian revolution, i.e., will lead this revolution to a the democratic-dictatorship of the proletariat and the peasantry. ” – Lenin, Two Tactics of Social Democracy (1905)

    From Chapter 3 of The Unseen Hand by A. Ralph Epperson:

    “It is generally conceded that even a monarchy or a dictatorship is an oligarchy, or a government run by a small, ruling minority.”

    “Such is also the case with a democracy, for this form of government is traditionally controlled at the top by a small ruling oligarchy. The people in a democracy are conditioned to believe that they are indeed the decision-making power of government, but in truth there is almost always a small circle at the top making the decisions for the entirety.”

    ——————————————————————————–

    “That’s the bitter truth, and it must be looked straight in the face. This barrier to the expansion and development of the American socialist movement will not be overcome, and even a regroupment of the woefully limited forces of those who at present consider themselves socialists will yield but little fruit, unless and until we find a way to break down this misunderstanding and prejudice against socialism, and convince at least the more advanced American workers that we socialists are the most aggressive and consistent advocates of democracy in all fields and that, in fact, we are completely devoted to the idea that socialism cannot be realised otherwise than by democracy.

    The socialist movement in America will not advance again significantly until it regains the initiative and takes the offensive against capitalism and all its agents in the labour movement precisely on the issue of democracy. What is needed is not a propaganda device or trick, but a formulation of the issue as it really stands; and, indeed, as it has always stood with real socialists ever since the modern movement was first proclaimed 109 years ago. For this counteroffensive against bourgeois propaganda we do not need to look for new formulations. Our task, as socialists living and fighting in this day and hour, is simply to restate what socialism and democracy meant to the founders of our movement, and to all the authentic disciples who followed them; to bring their formulations up to date and apply them to present conditions in the United States.” James P. Cannon, SWP’s West Coast Vacation School, September 1, 1957

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    Democracy v Republic: Founding Fathers Speak Out
    http://snooperreport.com/tocb/2008/12/1/democracy-v-republic-founding-fathers-speak-out.html

    Republic v. Democracy
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1274628/posts

    The Founding Fathers Rejected Democracy
    by Dr. Harold Pease

    The Founding Fathers universally rejected democracy and hoped that posterity would never turn the United States into one. The word they used was “Republic,” which is not synonymous with “Democracy.” The word “Democracy” is not in the Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation, the Constitution, or the Bill of Rights. Even the Pledge of Allegiance is “to the Republic for which it stands.”

    (snip)

    So why did they reject Democracy? Because it is inherently flawed with the “share the wealth” philosophy, which only works as long as there is someone else’s money to share. Those receiving are quite pleased with getting something for nothing. But those forced to give are denied the right to spend the benefits of their own labor in their own self-interest, which creates jobs no matter how the money is spent. They also lose a portion of their incentive to produce.

    Read the rest here: http://www.libertyunderfire.org/2010/06/the-founding-fathers-rejected-democracy/

    Are We a Republic or a Democracy?
    by Walter Williams

    In recognition that it’s Congress that poses the greatest threat to our liberties, the framers used negative phrases against Congress throughout the Constitution such as: shall not abridge, infringe, deny, disparage, and shall not be violated, nor be denied. In a republican form of government, there is rule of law. All citizens, including government officials, are accountable to the same laws. Government power is limited and decentralized through a system of checks and balances. Government intervenes in civil society to protect its citizens against force and fraud but does not intervene in the cases of peaceable, voluntary exchange.

    Contrast the framers’ vision of a republic with that of a democracy. In a democracy, the majority rules either directly or through its elected representatives. As in a monarchy, the law is whatever the government determines it to be. Laws do not represent reason. They represent power. The restraint is upon the individual instead of government. Unlike that envisioned under a republican form of government, rights are seen as privileges and permissions that are granted by government and can be rescinded by government.

    How about a few quotations demonstrating the disdain our founders held for democracy? James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 10: In a pure democracy, “there is nothing to check the inducement to sacrifice the weaker party or the obnoxious individual.” At the 1787 Constitutional Convention, Edmund Randolph said, ” … that in tracing these evils to their origin every man had found it in the turbulence and follies of democracy.”

    John Adams said, “Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There was never a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.” Chief Justice John Marshall observed, “Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos.” In a word or two, the founders knew that a democracy would lead to the same kind of tyranny the colonies suffered under King George III.

    The rest is here: http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/index.php?news=4080
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  • #85 Great comments and info on the Republic Auntie Madder…! Hope the USA can keep it…

  • Bryce

    I don’t know too many of us in the military that would actually follow orders along the lines they are talking about…at least not knowingly. In addition, it is a lesser known fact that those of us appointed as officers take an oath to the Constitution, not the President. Although a President is CinC, no one part of the Constitution should be trumped for the other unless specifically described in that document. Soros and his political “thinkers” are dnagerous.

  • Rinstine

    This is all well and good…
    HOWEVER, why are we giving up our rights and freedoms at the airport.
    I am not going to fly ever again as long as the current screening procedures are in effect.
    I’m not afraid of dying in an airplane, I am more afraid of giving in to the rat-bastards in our government and elsewhere who seek to take away my freedom and my rights under the guise of security. (Statistically still the safest way to travel, even with the threats!)
    I vote for PROFILING NON-CITIZENS FIRST!
    Obama, Nepolitano and Chertoff – You can kiss my ass!