TSA Chief Pistole Admits America Won’t Adapt Israel’s “Top-Notch Security Procedures” Because “Americans Don’t Profile” (Video)
Posted by Jim Hoft on Sunday, November 21, 2010, 10:52 PM
The TSA Chief John Pistole was on CNN’s State of the Union and told Candy Crowley numerous times that although some of the TSA agent’s invasive touching may seem over the top… It’s all for our own good
TSA Chielf Pistole also told Candy Crowley that the US could adopt Israel’s “top-notch” security procedures but won’t because, “Americans don’t profile.”
The feds certainly wouldn’t want to upset anyone by using offensive profiling techniques.
(Denver Post)
So, instead they are groping and using naked scanners on innocent Americans.
In a moment of honesty, TSA Chief Pistole admitted today that Israel has effective security techniques but that we can’t use those techniques here in the US because “we don’t profile.”
From the transcript:
CROWLEY: What’s over the line? What’s over the line?
All those things were fine. You saw a woman whose breasts were being felt. You saw a man whose — you know, had another man’s hand in his crotch. What’s over the line?
PISTOLE: I think that’s for the — the public to help inform that discussion. Clearly, if we are to detect terrorists, who have again proven innovative and creative in their design and implementation of bombs that are going to blow up airplanes and kill people, then we have to do something that prevents that. So it really comes down to the question…
CROWLEY: But the public didn’t have any choice in this. And there is outcry, and they don’t really know — I know that you’ve driven everybody to the TSA website and said, look here. But because you don’t want to reveal to terrorists what’s going to be checked, there’s no way for anybody to look at that website and know where they’re going to be touched and where it’s not allowed to be touched. And so what you seem to be saying is, you can be touched anywhere…
…PISTOLE: Well, I think the Israeli model, which a number of people have talked about, uses intelligence in a different way, profiling. And then if in terms of a pat-down, if they suspect you of something, you receive a very thorough pat-down there.
That is top-notch security. The question is, do we profile here in the U.S.? No, we don’t. So how then do we use intelligence that informs the decisions and judgments. And given what we saw from last night in terms of this new Web publication that describes in detail how the cargo bombs were done, how the design concealed, and how they are using technology to disguise and defeat the screening mechanisms we have in place, look, it’s a difficult question, Candy.
That’s right.
TSA Chief Pistole admitted that the Israel security procedures are “top-notch” but the US won’t use these techniques because America does not profile.
We wouldn’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings… Except innocent Americans.
So get in line for your groping, grandma.
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dwd commented:
Read terrorists their Miranda rights.
Forbid waterboarding of terrorists.
Give terrorists trials in civilian courts.
Force legal citizens of the USA to undergo doses of radiation.
Force legal citizens of the USA to be viewed nude.
Force legal citizens of the USA to be molested.
“America doesn’t profile” — so we force children to strip their clothes off in a public airport in order to avoid offending the Muslim woman in the hijab with a pat down. Gotta make sure you pat down enough children so that it balances out every other age, race, gender, height, weight, hairstyle.
PROFILE AWAY! As soon as white Christian man (or child) gets caught at the airport with a bomb in his underwear we can talk about whether profiling is appropriate.
bg commented:
He should have said “Progressives Don’t Profile”
Gman commented:
So what he is saying is that we will put the lives of Americans at risk and make them go through uncomfortable searches because we don’t want to make Muslims feel bad.
dwd commented:
You’re also more likely to die traveling by car than by airplane, so if these “security measures” deter people from flying and they drive to their destination instead then additional Americans will die who otherwise would not have died. Not to mention airlines will lose passengers, which means losing money and laying off employees, while at the same time TSA is trying to unionize even though it is supposed to be forbidden from doing so… but a judge is allowing it to proceed anyway.
This country is a mess.
Rock commented:
What a crock, this POS is nothing more than a poorly scripted spin doctor. Even if you strip search everyone getting on the plane you have failed to make that plane safe if the packages in the package compartment have not been inspected. Even more important who gave these weasel the authority to ignore 4th. Amendment Rights. I’ll tell him the threat we face, it’s low life’s like him who use their power to threaten the American people, including children and the elderly. As noted in another blog you have done nothing more than make the hundred of people standing in these lines the ultimate soft target. Lies are all these socialist scum have to try and justify the unjustifiable. Hopefully hell has a special place for the likes of him, and his type.
Bruce Obermeyer commented:
I’m waiting for someone to start a fashion trend, oh, say, cactus lined undies (with the points OUT, of course), or maybe a 10,000 volt jock warmer that “could malfunction” and shock someone who “accidentally” touched the outside of it the wrong way (well insulated on the INSIDE, of course), or….well, you get the idea…..
David Spence commented:
I am a prosecutor and it is an absurd claim THAT WE DO NO PROFILE. We have done it for 30 years in detecting drug “couriers.” Profiles based on officers’ training and experience are legitimate tools in police work. For example, the “drug courier profile” has long been recognized as an investigative technique used by narcotics investigators. This “drug courier profile” has been described as “the collective or distilled experience of narcotics officers concerning characteristics repeatedly seen in drug smugglers.” Courts have held that matching a profile alone is not the equivalent of reasonable suspicion or probable cause necessary to conduct an investigative detention or arrest; but, police officers are entitled to assess the totality of the circumstances surrounding the subject of their attention in light of their experience and training, which may include “instruction on a drug courier profile.” Therefore, profiles, combined with other facts and circumstances, can establish reasonable suspicion or probable cause.
On the other hand, while race or color may be a factor to consider during certain police activity, race or color alone is insufficient for making a stop or arrest.
It is important to remember that Muslims are not a “race”-Muslims are simply people who practice the religion of Islam. Islam is a set of beliefs, not a race.
arnonerik commented:
Pistole is a liar. We do profile in the USA. We do it every day. If a bank is robbed and the teller says the perp was young skinhead, do the police immediately pull in the old men and toddlers for questioning. If there is a serial killer don’t the authorities get their top profilers to try to track down the killer. What this is about is being politically correct even though it is the most insane method to use to catch a probable terrorist. We are spending a fortune on security and all we are getting for it is to humiliated, violated, and deprived of our constitutional rights that are supposed to protect us from unlawful searches. The Government can’t wiretap me without probable cause but they think they can touch, squeeze and fondle my junk.
Paul Ben commented:
Political Correctness will finish America. We will never learn from Europe. But what can I say? As long as the American people are OK with what their government is doing and are silent about PC, globalism, communism, being nice to terrorists, then why should I care??
The Elector of Saxony commented:
I cannot fathom a more ridiculous claim, or a more deadly and dangerous policy. Major Hasan murdered American Soldiers because the powers that be were fearful of “profiling” him. He walked, talked and prayed like an Islamic terrorist, and everyone was too frightened of the magic word* to stop him.
Everyone who flew planes into the towers on 9-11 shared significant, identifiable characteristics. 99% of those who strap bombs to themselves and blow up innocent people share the same significant, identifiable characteristics. Profile them, you jackwagon! If they don’t like it, they can go back to 5000DegreeSandStormistan. Leave my grandmother alone and stop pretending that she is just as likely to stand up on the plane, yell “Allahu Akbar!” and murder her fellow passengers. She isn’t, you know it, everyone knows it. If the people who are supposed to protect us won’t use the very best tool to do it, (common sense) we should give it the hell up.
*The leftist magic word is, of course, “Raaaaacist!” (Yes, I know. Not a race. But “Islamophobe” carries the same meaning, and is hurled by the same people for the same reasons. Synonyms in the Marxist dictionary, if you will.)
Andreas K. commented:
Because groping people is going to stop a terrorist from detonating his bomb. Mhmmm…
It’s like saying groping people will prevent traffic accidents.
Chippy commented:
This is all because some jack$$s got on a plane in Amsterdam that flew to Detroit. And somehow it is “Americas TSA screeners fault.” This process is complete liberal/socialist bulls**t!
“On Christmas Day 2009, Abdulmutallab traveled to Amsterdam, where he boarded Northwest Airlines Flight 253 en route to Detroit. He had purchased his ticket with cash in Ghana on December 16.”
Screw the lefts talking points.
Redwine commented:
Pistole’s absurd statements only prove that the TSA’s invasive, degrading procedures have nothing to do with security, but are intended to exert governmental power and control over the people.
Chippy commented:
The leftists talking point is that this procedure “will stop future underwear bomber episodes.” The Christmas Day Underwear Bomber boarded and flew on a international flight to Detroit. Translation, “It ain’t America’s fault DC.”
Derak commented:
There is something terribly wrong here.
This is not rational behaviour from an intact and sane government.
Something is wrong. Be very cautious going forward.
crosspatch commented:
Why do we suddenly see this treatment after the elections? I don’t recall these stories being circulated in September. Why all of a sudden? I have flown fairly recently, earlier this year, and we were not subjected to this treatment. What has changed to cause this treatment of us?
Is this the administration paying us back for kicking the Democrats out of the House? Is this political payback?
Taqiyyotomist commented:
Everyone in here — every male, that is, planning on flying — get yourselves a little silver Gadsden flag pin, for a piercing. You know….DOWN THERE.
x100,000 in a hundred airports. Call it a Teabagger’s Badge!
Protest with humor!
rickl commented:
Derak commented:
There is something terribly wrong here.
This is not rational behaviour from an intact and sane government.
Something is wrong. Be very cautious going forward.
Exactly. Ever since they took power, the Obamunists have been going out of their way to insult, offend, piss off, incite, and provoke the American people.
They keep on ratcheting it up. It’s obvious that they are hoping to provoke us into doing something rash, then they will use that as a justification for declaring a state of emergency and invoking dictatorial powers.
Our government is being run by hard-core Communist revolutionaries. Their clear aim is to destroy America as we have known it. I can only hope that the 2010 election was not a case of “too little, too late”. The new Congress needs to go after the unconstitutional czars, relentlessly, and use their power of the purse to defund as much of the Democrat agenda as possible.
Granny commented:
#7 November 21, 2010 at 11:43 pm
David Spence commented:
I am a prosecutor and it is an absurd claim THAT WE DO NO PROFILE.
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Well yes. If we did not profile we would never solve a single crime.
And isn’t this an utterly ridiculous thing to say to the American people? America – land of the couch potato, where one of the most popular shows on television, Criminal Minds, is all about the FBI’s behavioral analysis unit. Behavioral analysis is profiling!
Robert commented:
“do we profile here in the U.S.? No, we don’t.”
Such a smug and self-righteousness statement,
the guy should be slapped.
justavoter commented:
We don’t profile?
Really, in who’s mind?
Replace all of the TSA workers with Muslim women and I will line up for my groping.Not to say that the indignity that the Muslim women would be warranted or deserved but I just know we would snag a few radicals in the lot.Those would be the ones who grab and twist the testies.
Fuzzy commented:
Doesn’t he realize how incompetent and ignorant he sounds? We don’t “profile”? WTF? He’s the head of TSA, he doesn’t know the difference between using sound intelligence data based on terrorist “profiles” (patterns, behaviors, etc.) and profiling someone for “driving while black”?
This guy is too freaking stupid to run anything, let alone the TSA. Get him out of there and get someone in who understands quite simple distinctions between “criminal/terrorist profiling” and “racial profiling.” It’s not rocket science, any schlub with an internet connection and the ability to use Google can figure it out. He’s a menace to our freedom on every conceivable level.
Granny commented:
Somebody on another thread posted a link to an article at infowars.
http://www.infowars.com/tsa-tactics-find-ominous-parallel-in-nazi-germany/
The author points out
So lets think about that a minute. Both the OK City attack that blew up the federal building and the first WTC attack took place on Bill Clinton’s watch. It might be worth noting that Clinton first ran for President against Bush I & Ross Perot. (Ross Perot was also involved in the campaign for Clinton’s second term. A quick look at the percentages shows that had he not been, Bob Dole would likely have won that race.)
So much attention is paid to all of the Clinton scandals that we often overlook what he really gave us – besides the OK bombing and WTC I.
1. The Brady Bill – 5 day waiting period for handgun sales
2. North American Free Trade Act
3. Bank Deregulation that set up the “emergency” bailout of 2008
4. Wide expansion of Freddie/Fannie and a big push for more lending in low income communities, actions that led directly to the housing meltdown and foreclosure crisis we see today.
Much has been made of Clinton’s draft dodging. What many people perhaps do not know is that Clinton was a war protester who organized the October 1969 Moratorium antiwar protest.
At the end of his second term, global-warming guru Al Gore ran against Bush II. You might know that Al Gore is a Vietnam Vet. What you probably don’t know about Al Gore is that Al was raised in an staunchly anti-war family, his father a democrat politician and vocal antiwar critic. Gore enlisted in the Army in an effort to help his father’s political campaign by not handing the Republicans a tool to criticism him. This is the election that the democrats have long claimed was “stolen.”
Antiwar protester John Kerry next took up the banner – and they expected him to win. John Kerry, of course, is famous for throwing his medals away during an antiwar protest at about the same time that Bill Ayers & the Weathermen were blowing things up.
There is a strategy behind anarchy. Uncontrollable public disruption leads to loud demands from the peace loving portion of the populace to get things back to normal. The only way to do that is to essentially give in to the demands of the anarchists. We saw this when Jimmy Carter turned Yasser Arafat, at the time the #1 terrorist in the world, into a “peace partner.” We’ve also seen a number of violent antiwar protesters turn up in positions of control in our own government, enough to give one pause to consider that perhaps the fox taken charge of the hen house.
Go read the article you’ll find at that link. I have to tell you, I’m almost willing to entertain the possibility that 911 was indeed an “inside job.” These provocations by the TSA seem to be almost deliberately timed and intended to cause uproar. A distraction . . .
squeaky commented:
“Why do we suddenly see this treatment after the elections? I don’t recall these stories being circulated…” just something else that had to pass so to speak so we could see what’s in it. blind faith or willful ignorance.
ReaganRepublican commented:
The guy comes off as a moron. America could never use the Israeli model simply because too many people come through American airports. If we were to adopt the Israeli model you would have to show up 12 hours early to make your flight. This would in turn make it so much easier for a terrorist to strike the immense queue leading up to security. Israel is a tiny segregated country. We can’t utilize any of their models. What’s the big deal with the body scanners? Are people really that uptight?
Conservative Ken commented:
Prelude to martial law in America.
Push the people into violent disobedience, then justify turning the screws tighter. Seeing what the TSA is doing is only the beginning. All of this makes me wonder if there is an agenda to ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Granny commented:
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#25 November 22, 2010 at 5:55 am
ReaganRepublican commented:
The guy comes off as a moron. America could never use the Israeli model simply because too many people come through American airports. If we were to adopt the Israeli model you would have to show up 12 hours early to make your flight. This would in turn make it so much easier for a terrorist to strike the immense queue leading up to security. Israel is a tiny segregated country. We can’t utilize any of their models. What’s the big deal with the body scanners? Are people really that uptight?
_________
It has nothing to do with being “uptight.” It has to do with the unproven safety of the machine and the alarm of medical personnel about the possible dangers to the public. It has to do with the mass violation of our Fourth Amendment rights. It has to do with the outright lies told about the machines. It has to do with the company run by the former head of Homeland Security making millions from the company producing the machines. It has to do with the accumulation of a database of stored scans that can permanently identify you, kind of like an all-body fingerprint – despite assurances that this “couldn’t be done.” Not wouldn’t – couldn’t. And yet it is.
Yes, Americans certainly could use the Israeli model. Law enforcement “profiles” every day of the week. Every community in the country runs at least a couple of mass traffic stops a year checking for drunk drivers or whatever. It is just a matter of training. Which Israel long since volunteered to do.
Granny commented:
#25 Conservative Ken -
You seen this video about HUTTO – a family “prison” down in Texas?
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/281.html
I was dumbfounded. A concentration camp for women and children, right here in the USA. I want border security in a big way (I live not far from our northern border) and I want a decrease in illegal immigration – a big decrease – but THIS is not the way to achieve it.
Scott commented:
Although all muslims are not terrorists, it seems clear that all terrorists are muslim. Military aged muslim males and burka wearing females should automatically be subject to enhanced screening and background checks. Yet, Hussein and the cross-dresser janet napolitano would rather frisk millions of children, vets, and old ladies than do the common sense work required to stop terrorists.
tarpon commented:
Just because Obama is stupid, doesn’t mean Americans are.
Dump Obama, problem solved.
Ruebacca commented:
Every 20-30 years we need to elect left wing dems to remind ourselves how stupid they are. We don’t “profile” sound good and noble but in practice it is beyond stupid.
squeaky commented:
“Much has been made of Clinton’s draft dodging. What many people perhaps do not know is that Clinton was a war protester who organized the October 1969 Moratorium antiwar protest.” the same game book – the same game players. nothing is what it appears to be.
“operation purse strings” applied today as it was in during vietnam.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1624
theBuckWheat commented:
““Americans don’t profile.” [Liberals would rather see the public be forced to undergo cavity searches than profile, but in a totally different venue, say the ability to share hard core porn, they are for very strong laws that protect privacy.]
Granny commented:
#32 November 22, 2010 at 6:48 am
squeaky commented:
“Much has been made of Clinton’s draft dodging. What many people perhaps do not know is that Clinton was a war protester who organized the October 1969 Moratorium antiwar protest.” the same game book – the same game players. nothing is what it appears to be.
“operation purse strings” applied today as it was in during vietnam.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1624
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This, btw, is exactly what the current regime in DC is doing to Israel. They aren’t so much cutting off the money exactly – they are cutting off the sales. Obama just slipped through the largest arms sale in history while Congress was out of town – to Saudi Arabia. Meanwhile, Israel has been told that even though they have spent billions helping to develop the newest fighter, they aren’t getting even one for “free” and won’t see any for a decade or more. And that is only the lastest. We shut down the Israel-Lebanon conflict a couple of summers ago by denying them resupply of bombs and jet fuel.
exceller commented:
It seems to me that the correct statement would be that America doesn’t profile, IF it might offend Muslims.
In every other sense of the word, American progressives do indeed profile.
Granny commented:
Well here is one of the things they are trying to hide – Obama is trying to get a known gun control advocate through as head of ATF –
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gun-control-advocate-traver-to-head-atf/
Among the things TheWon wants to do: state provided “safe storage” for all of your guns.
RedBeard commented:
“Americans don’t profile” is as intellectually vacant as statement as I’ve ever heard. And transparent as window glass, too, in its obviously disingenuous use as a PC and political tool.
Pistole needs to be removed and reassigned to the job of men’s room attendant in the D.C. Metro. He might possibly have the qualifications necessary to avoid mixing up paper towels with toilet paper.
Militant Conservative commented:
Yes we can……………………………………………………………..profile.
Gini commented:
What strikes me as curious is that not one protest has come from any of the women in burkas who have been “patted down”. The media is silent, no videos, no protests at all. Am I to assume that these women do not mind being groped by a stranger? Surely some burka wearing women must have been searched – or is it possible that they were not.
CT commented:
From The Hill…”Pistole told the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee this week that the pat-down technique was so thorough that, had it been used, it would have thwarted the suspected Christmas Day bomber, who allegedly hid an explosive device in his underwear.”
Oh really? Where did the would-be ‘Underware Bomber’ board the flight to Detroit? Are they groping crotches there?
Sally commented:
He is a liar.
This didn’t ramp up until after the midterms- our punishment..
mkj350 commented:
What a bunch of crap. No bombs have ever been used by 10 year old white boys to blow up anything. And his comment about if they go through the scanning without setting it off they will not be subject to the enhanced patdown is a bunch of crap also. 20% are randomly selected for the patdown, whether you set the scanner off or not. It’s just all bogus. Didn’t the shoe bomber and the underwear bomber come into this country from somewhere else???? If that’s the case, how would TSA security measures have stopped them? Answer – they wouldn’t. We SHOULD profile. Hundreds of thousands of people are subjected to this indignity in order to avoid the profiling that should be done – all in the name of being politically correct. I will never fly again.
Chip Bennett commented:
@ReaganRepublican
Bull. Ben Gurion’s passenger traffic (11.6MM in 2008) is equivalent to that of NYC’s LaGuardia (11.7MM in 2008), which is the 20th busiest airport in the US. If they can do it, so can we.
Besides, with logical screening tactics, getting innocent civilians through security would be faster, not slower.
Yes; I’m uptight. I don’t want anyone looking at my wife or my daughters naked. I value my Constitutional rights. I will not stand for those rights to be abrogated in the name of inefficient, ineffective security measures based on specious arguments.
crosspatch commented:
The problem is larger than just the TSA groping. The problem is the arrogance and condescending attitude from those at the top and that spans more than just TSA. It is a systemic problem with this administration. They just don’t understand who is boss.
bg commented:
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#2 November 21, 2010 at 11:14 pm
bg commented:
He should have said “Progressives Don’t Profile”
I DID NOT POST THAT!!
guess mysterious fun games troll is back to their old tricks..
Reaganite Republican commented:
Linked at Reaganite Republican:
Suggestion for Congressional Republicans:
DEMAND Israeli-Style Airport Security NOW
Happy Thanksgiving All~