Good-Bye Freedom – Hello Police State

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano announced today that the next steps for the naked body scanners involves trains, boats and metros.
The Hill reported:

The next step in tightened security could be on U.S. public transportation, trains and boats.

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano says terrorists will continue to look for U.S. vulnerabilities, making tighter security standards necessary.

“[Terrorists] are going to continue to probe the system and try to find a way through,” Napolitano said in an interview that aired Monday night on “Charlie Rose.”

“I think the tighter we get on aviation, we have to also be thinking now about going on to mass transit or to trains or maritime. So, what do we need to be doing to strengthen our protections there?”

Napolitano’s comments, made a day before one of the nation’s busiest travel days, come in the wake of a public outcry over newly implemented airport screening measures that have been criticized for being too invasive.

The secretary has defended the new screening methods, which include advanced imaging systems and pat-downs, as necessary to stopping terrorists. During the interview with Rose, Napolitano said her agency is now looking into ways to make other popular means of travel safer for passengers and commuters.

But, don’t worry. Government officials will be exempt.
After all, naked body scanning is for the little people.

 

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  1. “HSS Napolitano stated in a recent press release that in an effort to reduce terrorist threats, Americans will no longer be permitted to leave their homes.”

    It’s on it’s way folks.

  2. THE TERRORISTS HAVE WON.

  3. Has the TSA been successful with anything they’ve attempted since they were created?

  4. But the government will NOT invade the privacy of muslim killers by monitering their phone calls and e-mails .
    Right ?
    I feel soooooo safe already

  5. Well, President Soros wasn’t going to spend all that money on OSI and not make a fortune.!!

  6. ESCAPE FROM AMERICA
    Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler
    Thursday, 18 November 2010

    Folks – get ready for your brain to go on a roller coaster ride. Buckle up…

    The best rum punch in the Caribbean is made by Captain George Clarke, who owns the Sweetfield Manor B&B in the Barbados. Late last month (October), I was enjoying his libation while watching a truly glorious ocean sunset when we were joined by a couple who had just arrived from New York. They looked like they needed a drink.

    George poured them each a glass from his ever-full pitcher, sprinkled a little grated nutmeg on top, and said, “Welcome to the Barbados. What would you folks like to do on the island?”

    They cast a glance at each other. After a long sip and a long sigh, the lady answered, “Escape from America.”

    In response to my, shall we say quizzical glance, she held up her glass and said, “After two or three of these, maybe I can explain.” We enjoyed the sunset quietly. I took a picture of it that was so good George offered to exchange his secret rum punch recipe for it.

    There was a rustling in the trees above. “That’s a troop of green monkeys,” George explained. “They usually come through about now. Green monkeys escaped from Africa on a boat some three hundred years ago…”

    George let this comment hang in the twilight air, so I followed it up with, “For centuries, people have been escaping to America. You folks want to escape from it?”

    George poured them another rum punch. The lady wiped a tear from her eye. “Yes, from,” she answered, “… we can’t stand it anymore, we have to get out. What happened to me at the Newark airport coming here was the final straw.”

    Her husband continued. “We don’t want to escape from America. We’re Americans – how can we be anything else? We want to escape from America’s government, what it’s become. We feel like we’re Jews getting out of Nazi Germany in the ‘30s.”

    “What happened at Newark?” George inquired.

    The lady grimaced. “We had gone through security, our flight was called, the airline fellow scanned our boarding passes, and we started down the jetway to board the plane. There – in the jetway – were four guards wearing a police-type uniform waiting to pounce on us. One of them barked at me, ‘You, step over here!’, and made me come in to this vestibule of the boarding ramp. My husband followed, the guard stopped him, he said, ‘But she’s my wife,’ the guard ordered him away.

    “This goon proceeded to grill me for several minutes Why was I going to the Caribbean? When was I coming back? What was I going to do there? Where was I from? What’s my home address? What high school did I go to? What did I do for a living? On and on and on. He wrote my answers down on a clipboard. Finally I asked him what was going on. He said it was just a random security check. So I asked him the purpose for all these intrusive personal questions.

    “Believe it or not, he said – with all this truculence in his voice – ‘We want to know who’s leaving this country, not just entering! We want to know where our citizens are going, what they’re doing, when they’re coming back – and we have a right to know!’ He made this last point with added forcefulness. Then he dismissed me with a wave of his hand.

    “We went to our seats, and I held my husband’s hand and cried. It was a beautiful day and you could see Manhattan so clearly out the window as we flew past it on takeoff. I never felt so sad. ‘Goodbye, America,’ I thought. ‘I’ll come back when it’s free again’.”

    After a few moments of silence, her husband said, “I saw these guards with these big gold badges on their uniforms do the same to several other passengers. We were worried before but this clinched it. We were coming here and a couple of other islands for a vacation but we may not go back now. You see, we are convinced the federal government will before too long require an exit visa – government permission to leave the country – so we’re getting out while we still can.”

    I asked if they had any hope the upcoming November 2nd elections would change anything.

    “Hope, yes – sure, we’ve got plenty of hope, but we’re not betting our freedom and life savings on it,” came the reply. “We’ve got enough to retire on. We know this Obama government will try to dig itself out of the hole it’s dug by confiscating our and everyone else’s savings. Of course we hope a new Republican Congress will prevent it. But it’s too risky a bet.”

    I could not help recalling this sobering conversation in the light of the burgeoning “TSA Revolt,” sparked by John “don’t touch my junk” Tyner’s now-legendary TSA confrontation in San Diego last Saturday (11/13).

    After traveling around the world – and through airport security in 18 countries – over the past few months, then returning to the US, I can confirm that no country I know of on earth has airport security as stupid, obnoxious, and intrusive as the US. And yes, that includes North Korea.

    Yet who should be surprised that government-conducted airport security now trashes the 4th Amendment and requires sexual assault by bullying perverts? It’s the inevitable consequence of combining political correctness and creeping fascism.

    Remember that roller coaster ride I promised at the start of this discussion? Hope you’re cinched in, ‘cause here we go. We’re going to talk about something called historical physics, about what snow avalanches on a mountain, forest fires, earthquakes, economic collapses and political revolutions have in common.

    What all of these events have in common is that their historical conditions have reached what is called a critical state. Let’s say you make a pile of rice grains. As the pile gets higher and higher, the “angle of repose” gets steeper until it reaches a critical state where any additional grain of rice can cause the pile to collapse.

    You can’t predict which particular grain when added will precipitate the collapse, because that depends on the unique history of how each previous grain lies on the pile. But you can tell the approach of a critical state and see the odds for collapse getting higher and higher.

    The key to understanding where American history is right now, politically and economically, is to grasp that we are in such a critical state of instability.

    Politically, there is incredible instability between the producers and the parasites, the makers and the moochers. Just look at how many electoral races on November 2nd were (or are being still) decided by less than 1% of the votes.

    Economically, there is incredible market instability – there really aren’t any markets anymore – because market signals have been replaced by government signals. Whether it’s long term or short term interest rates, food prices, housing prices, gasoline prices – everywhere you look government interference is ubiquitous and calamitously distorting.

    When a system, physical or political, reaches a critical state of instability, something out of the blue and unexpected often sets it off. We may have such a “trigger” in the TSA Revolt.

    Besides the disgustingly objectionable aspect of their exposing people’s genitalia, the backscatter x-rays used in the naked scanners are not safe. The radiation does not penetrate through the skin thus can contribute to skin cancer. Pilots or frequent fliers scanned often will receive radiation levels at the nuclear power plant worker level.

    There are quite rational reasons, in other words, for objecting to an airport security naked scan – and equally so, obviously, for being sexually abused by some pervert groper with a badge.

    I have to insert a side-bar here, regarding the support for TSA pervert fascism by the biggest jerk on the right, Emmett Tyrrell. How big a jerk? He once told me – no smile, he was serious – in response to the connection between cigarettes and lung cancer, that “anyone who doesn’t smoke is chicken s**t.”

    Evidently, Tyrrell prefers pervert fascism to Moslem profiling, or dealing with terrorists the KGB way (no details here but trust me, it’s persuasive).

    Will this incipient TSA Revolt widen into a conflagration of opposition to government intrusion into our personal and business lives? Maybe.

    The revolt started with the Tyner incident in San Diego on Saturday the 14th. On Monday the 16th, Congressman John Mica (R-FL), who helped write the original TSA bill in 2001 and will soon chair the House Transportation Committee, publicly reminded airports they can opt out of TSA. On Wednesday the 17th, the Orlando Sanford International Airport decided to opt out. Today, Thursday the 18th, airports throughout the South are considering opting out.

    A guy in San Diego may have triggered a political avalanche, earthquake, and forest fire. Maybe it will fizzle out. But we can be sure another trigger will be pulled, somewhere, out of the blue, in left field. The last grain of rice will fall on the pile and our current system will be swept away.

    What will be swept away, who will be buried, and who will remain standing? That’s what can’t be predicted. That’s in the nature of a critical state collapse. Its unique history in creation means a unique end that cannot be repeated, thus not predictable. All you can do is play the odds.

    I personally think the history of America favors the odds for freedom. I respect the way the Barbados couple chose to value their freedom. The lady cried when she left. There are more and more good people leaving America every day – in tears and regret, but leaving nonetheless.

    Still, I’m glad for this critical state America is in now, for it’s not just “where there is danger there is opportunity” like the Chinese proverb – it’s that there must be danger for there to be opportunity.

    Only danger can create the possibility for real opportunity. The greater the danger, the greater the opportunity.

    Escape from America? It’s rational to get out of harm’s way. We have to squarely face the truth that our government has become a force for evil. If someone doesn’t want to depend on this new “I’ve seen the light” Republican Party to defend them from this evil, we cannot blame them.

    Yet there is too much history of freedom for America’s critical state to avalanche in the direction of freedom’s destruction. I am confident that the couple I met in the Barbados and all those now escaping from America will before long be returning to an America in which freedom has been reborn – and they will kiss the ground when they arrive.

    Ps: The book to read on historical physics and the critical state is Ubiquity: Why Catastrophes Happen, by Mark Buchanan.

    Pss: You want the secret rum punch recipe? OK, just for TTPers:

    Three oz. white rum, three oz. dark rum, three oz. simple syrup, half-cup fresh-squeezed orange juice, half-cup key lime juice (real key limes!), two dashes Angostura bitters. Mix well, serve chilled over ice, grate fresh nutmeg on top.

    And here’s that Barbados sunset:

  7. #2 November 23, 2010 at 6:12 pm
    John commented:
    THE TERRORISTS HAVE WON.
    ——————————

    They won on 11-04-2008

  8. Welcome to serfdom.

  9. If someone doesn’t do something about this rogue government soon, I may take my kids and move. I’m going to start looking. It was revolting enough living in a country that would elect someone named Hussein. I would rather leave then be subjected to this rape of citizens anymore. I now know how people felt when they escaped from Hitler’s Germany. It makes your skin crawl to think people put a peice of human feces like Obama in office, doesn’t it?

  10. HEY AMERICA (yes I’m shouting):
    - CLOSE THE BORDERS now
    - LOOK FOR TERRORISTS within America’s borders (PROFILE: MUSLIMS, foreign born and travel habits)
    - STOP FLYING, take trains and buses… have a meeting in another state? CONFERENCE call instead
    - WAKE THE F UP… you are being “punished” for your R VOTES
    - THIS IS WAR: the tyrannical GOVERNMENT and govt agencies AGAINST YOU

  11. So, then if we object to unreasonable search, we can just choose just . . . not to take any public transportation at all? That’s really great freedom right there.

    My question: How are they gonna control our ability to drive somewhere? Will there be roadblocks everywhere, where we have to be searched, or what?

  12. “[Terrorists] are going to continue to probe the system and try to find a way through,” Napo says. No Napo, they just walk across the border from Mexico to the US. There is no checking there and they know it. And so do you. The other way into the “system” is through the voting booth. Yes, they run for political office and get elected through various forms of fraud, then they turn the US security system against its own people. It’s a brilliant move isn’t? Too bad you’re blinded by your pastel suit coats.

  13. My late father warned me that America would become more and more like the CCCP, or Nazi Germany. He knew he would not live to see it, but his sons would.

    I am really afraid for my Country.

  14. Alana – don’t give them any ideas….. :=)

  15. Decades of trying to cajole people into public transportation countermanded with one mindless policy.

    To a certain extent, people need to fly. Very few need to take the train or board a boat, so the inevitable result of this policy is harm to those industries.

    Wait until they move to bus travel. Should do wonders for both ridership and timeliness.

  16. Better watch out for the “moderate Muslim” politician. Could be a jihadist plant.

  17. ++

    HELL=O=NWO

    can’t say we weren’t warned.. *sigh*

    and to those who expect the TPM candidates & a few
    other noble Republicans to save US, i laugh at you..

    imho it’s going to take all of Congress to dig US out from under Obama,
    not to mention every patriot on the planet, if not, farewell dear friends,
    farewell..

    [laugh not meant in a joyous or happy fashion]

    ==

  18. “[Terrorists] are going to continue to probe the system and try to find a way through,” Napolitano said ..
    +++
    So why don’t you concentrate and focus your resources on probing and neutralizing the terrorists oh ye adult female puppy?

  19. I kind of wonder what Ray LaHood’s feelings are about this; after all, he’s trying to ram public transportation down our throats at the same time Nappy’s trying to make it all but impossible to use…wait, I answered my own question – keep us immobile, we’re easier to control.

  20. TSA tomorrow, Main Street, USA

  21. When we lived in the Middle East it was always comfortable to know that we could go home to America.

    We can only hope and pray that America does not become another of the world’s prisons. Work permits and exit/re-entry visas could be next on the list.

    It will be interesting to see if border security becomes a real issue after January 1st.

    By the way. that rum punch recipe looks great.

  22. Round up all the male muslims and send them on a one way trip out of America! No muslims to return! Ever!

  23. the tsa groping policy is perverted in more ways than one.

    it’s also a perversion of sane simple security measures.

    instead of subjecting everyone to a physical search, they should subject likely terrorists to thorough physical and electronic searches.

    leftists would rather we waste time and money and treat everyone as if they were alike, than target a single group.

    which is ironic and hypocritical in a big way, for leftists are otherwise always groupists who think people should get special treatment based on their membership in certain groups. blacks, lgbt, aged, immigrant, hispanic – these groupings are all acceptable and useful to leftists when it coiumes to affirmative action and doling out welfare. but – if you rationally want to apply security measures to a group that is much more likely to commit terror, then you’re a racist.

    hypocrites.

    what’s fascinating about their hypocrisy is that is always comes down on the anti-american side: if groupism can hurt the usa or the west or j-c civilization, then they are for it. if it helps our civilization, then they’re against it.

    this basic foundational animosity to the west makes them a lot like the jihadists.

    and it’s why they have an affinity, why chavez likes ahmadinejad and why a.n.s.w.e.r like the ism and the plo.

    which us why i have long argued that – if we want to defeat the jihadist enemy, then we have to9 defeat the left.

  24. Public transportation? Seriously, I take the subway to work every day. The day they put scanners in is the day I start driving alone every day. I do it because it is convenient. If they put in scanners that reason will cease to be operative.

    And just how many thousands of federal employees will they hire to do this? And with what money? Oh, I suppose the dems will just print whatever they need.

  25. “Terrorists” don’t need to LOOK for US vulnerabilities. All they have to do is stroll across our Southern border and a thousand places on our Northern border. What the heck does Napolitano think those M-13 drug cartel members cutting off heads in Mexico are? Or the foreigners that have invaded our National Parks to grow pot and set up no-go zones where even the park police don’t dare to go for fear of being shot?

    The Department of “Homeland Security” flatly refuses to secure our borders and follows absolutely inane “catch and release” policies that simply allow those few they catch to just try again tomorrow, but they will instead totally abrogate the Constitutional Rights of every American citizen by subjecting them to dangerous scans and warrantless searches.

    Conservative Ken, I’ve been really afraid for my country for some while now. I’m really afraid for my children and my grandchildren. And I will be very surprised if we actually see an election in 2012. It appears that we have had a coup d’etat.

  26. What about public roads? Do i have to get the governments permission before i give someone a ride in my personal vehicle?

    What if the terrorists are illegal aliens? Does the government have the right to ask them for identification?
    .

  27. So let me get this straight, they are going to hire how many TSA gropers and install them across the country . . . above the law and the Constitution, answering only to an agency that itself answers to the President. Um, no. I don’t think so. Enough with the police state/civilian security force crap. This is America, and if we give into this, we have lost everything.

  28. Pretty soon,
    PUBLIC transportation
    will be without the L

  29. I really do hate it when I am right.
    Elections have consequences.
    Do you think they had plans to do this before the elections?
    How many democrats would have been re-elected if this s**t had been unveiled before November 2nd?
    Welcome to the fourth Reich.

  30. Are the questions about whose side Obama is on still crazy? Remarkable how this got out of control so quickly.

  31. ++

    MrGoodWench #17

    re: what Napo said..

    hah!! and double hah!!

    ==

  32. Freakin dyke. Let’s take away her freedoms. She’s a lunatic.

  33. ++

    re: #31

    not to mention the Islamists Ambassadors, Reps,
    etc he’s hired (some on no – no – go lists, gah)..

    we’re losing big tiime, namely to our own
    Islamist enablers and traitors within.. :-(

    ==

  34. Waiting two years to stop tolerating the advance of Communism just because that is the next Election date is going to be like waiting to exit a burning building til after the roof falls on you because the fire alarm didn’t go off, yet.

    We saw how well that worked on 9/11.

  35. I don’t feel safe at all. What about you?

  36. guys, I understand leaving public transportation, but what if fuel prices are caused to “necessarily skyrocket”? We need to keep the pressure on this policy and administration. Get this reversed.

  37. As Norman Thomas, (A socialist who ran for president) said, “The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.”

  38. #27 November 23, 2010 at 6:59 pm
    gastorgrab commented:

    What about public roads? Do i have to get the governments permission before i give someone a ride in my personal vehicle?

    What if the terrorists are illegal aliens? Does the government have the right to ask them for identification?
    _____________

    Have you seen that commercial for OnStar lately – the one that tells you how wonderful OnStar is because if somebody steals your car OnStar can flip a switch and your car comes to a screeching halt? Notice that all Government Motors cars now come equipped with OnStar – which keeps a record of exactly where you have been and where you are at any minute – along with how fast you’ve been going, how long you stopped at a stop sign and so on.

    Need I say more?

  39. Who’s really causing the terror here?

  40. #28 November 23, 2010 at 7:01 pm
    Fuzzy commented:

    So let me get this straight, they are going to hire how many TSA gropers and install them across the country . . . above the law and the Constitution, answering only to an agency that itself answers to the President. Um, no. I don’t think so. Enough with the police state/civilian security force crap. This is America, and if we give into this, we have lost everything.
    _____________

    I’m not so sure they are going to HIRE them so much as DRAFT them. That Mandatory National Service bill is making its way through Congress. Mandatory National Service is a tactic used by virtually all totalitarian societies. Every teen in Nazi Germany – “aryan” or non – did “national service”. Some just had better working conditions than others. Same in Russia, China, North Korea, North Vietnam. . . working for the “greater good” you know.

  41. They are causing energy and food prices to sky rocket on purprose.

  42. #43 November 23, 2010 at 7:33 pm
    avery commented:

    They are causing energy and food prices to sky rocket on purprose.
    ____________

    Yes, they are. That is exactly what the whole corn to ethanol scam has been about. Much of the world is in trouble for food because the corn that is normally the staple grain has been making ethanol instead. Even Al Gore recently admitted it was a scam.

    Have you noticed how the packages at the grocery store keep getting smaller so you hopefully won’t notice the drastic price jump? Tuna is now down to 4 ounce cans – enough for one sandwich after you drain it!

  43. Napo the Kapo

  44. After 911 the gov’t hired 16,000 TSA agents. That was the first order of business after the attacks. Now there are over 60,000 TSA agents. With the news that they are going to hire more tells me this is a union powerplay with help from Obama. The TSA wants to unionize with the AFL-CIO. Expansion would cause the TSA too grow to millions. All for the “common good”. That’s how these bastards operate. This is why we have obozocare. When that gets implemented, every doctor, nurse and medical operator will be unionized and working for the federal government. Think of how large that union will be?

    These large unions will gaurantee the socialist/libs millions of votes for re-election. It will also gaurantee that we the people will be taxed more and more to pay for a more bloated out of control beaucracy. We are screwed!

  45. #46 Chippy – The TSA appears to have already been unionized.

    The American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE), the union that represents TSA workers, is urging the TSA to do more to protect its employees from abuse from airline passengers angry over the new security methods.

    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/40318901/ns/travel-news/

  46. The regime is operating in opposition to the Constitution. We Conservatives act holding to the Constitution. The regime is ruling by fiat. Emperor Hussein will soon issue direct orders by executive Diktat (as he now does using his comrades). The TSA and other agents are the Emperor’s “civilian” army that will become bigger and better funded than our Armed Forces. We want to effect change via the ballot box and the rule of law. The Emperor, his comrades and his operatives will now put that to an end. No wonder the Emperor enjoys improving his golf game or taking fabulously expensive jaunts abroad with the Empress, the Imperial offspring and entourage on our taxpayer dime. He and his minions are laughing at us as We, the People, are stuck between the fascist rock and the Islamo-Marxist hard place.

  47. Does this apply to rental cars also :)

  48. I just can’t believe that the X-ray scanner company CEO is that Depak Chopra-the meditation guru. He is an endocrinologist by education and he is obama firend who wentwith him to the
    India on Mo and BHO’s incredible adventure. Seems a little Cozy. All little too crony.
    Of course this entire issue will be on thefront page of teh NYTimes and L.A.Times tomorrow
    Right? Hello? Bueller?Crickets?

  49. How much longer until they start pulling us out of our cars for Gate Rapes in order to be able to drive on bridges or through tunnels? Obama meant it when he said we were “enemies” that he wanted to see “punished”, because that is exactly what these islamonazis SOBs are doing!

  50. #51 November 23, 2010 at 8:15 pm
    Zilla of the Resistance commented:

    How much longer until they start pulling us out of our cars for Gate Rapes in order to be able to drive on bridges or through tunnels?
    ___________________

    They’re already on it.

    TSA Gestapo Empire

    It doesn’t take a bureaucrat long to create an empire. John Pistole, the FBI agent who took over the Transportation Security Administration on July 1 told USA Today 16 days later that protecting trains and subways from terrorist attacks will be as high a priority for him as air travel.

    It is difficult to imagine New Yorkers being porno-screened and sexually groped on crowed subway platforms or showing up an hour or two in advance for clearance for a 15 minute subway ride, but once bureaucrats get the bit in their teeth they take absurdity to its logical conclusion. Buses will be next, although it is even more difficult to imagine open air bus stops turned into security zones with screeners and gropers inspecting passengers before they board.

    Will taxi passengers be next? In those Muslim lands whose citizens the US government has been slaughtering for years, favorite weapons for retaliating against the Americans are car and truck bombs. How long before Pistole announces that the TSA Gestapo is setting up roadblocks on city streets, highways and interstates to check cars for bombs?

    That 15 minute trip to the grocery store then becomes an all day affair.

    Indeed, it has already begun. Last September agents from Homeland Security, TSA, and the US Department of Transportation, assisted by the Douglas County Sheriff’s Office, conducted a counter-terrorism operation on busy Interstate 20 just west of Atlanta, Georgia. Designated VIPER (Visible Inter-mobile Prevention and Response), the operation required all trucks to stop to be screened for bombs. Federal agents used dogs, screening devices, and a large drive-through bomb detection machine. Imagine what the delays did to delivery schedules and truckers’ bottom lines.

    >b>There are also news reports of federal trucks equipped with backscatter X-ray devices that secretly scan cars and pedestrians.

  51. ++

    Redwine #48

    i’m certain many people view us as those with signs saying the world is coming to an end.. however, they dismiss the fact that the sign holders of old had no tangible proof, whereas we’re living it.. *sigh*

    most people simply cannot fathom how easily events like these can take place, yet they not only have, but more or less overnight (time
    being relative so to speak)..

    ==

  52. All it takes is a Republican in office to undo all of this crap. Elections have consequences.

  53. #
    #54 November 23, 2010 at 8:23 pm
    Joe Bean commented:

    All it takes is a Republican in office to undo all of this crap. Elections have consequences
    _____________

    That is unfortunately NOT true. Nearly all of this stuff was actually planned during the CLINTON administration. I came across this yesterday early – posted it on one of the threads.

  54. ++

    Granny #52

    i’d be surprised if future generations travel anywhere but via state mobile transporters to fields, sweat shops, or whatever.. never mind taking trips to grocery stores, which will most likely be obsolete by then, food being distributed via the government..

    ==

  55. #
    #56 November 23, 2010 at 8:27 pm
    bg commented:

    ++

    Granny #52

    i’d be surprised if future generations travel anywhere but via state mobile transporters to fields, sweat shops, or whatever.. never mind taking trips to grocery stores, which will most likely be obsolete by then, food being distributed via the government..

    ==
    bg, I’ve been saying to everyone I ever got the chance to say it to for more than 30 years now that I fully expected to see concentration camps in the United States of America in my lifetime. Looks like it isn’t too far off. Luckily, I’m getting old.

    And luckily I got a chance to teach my grandbaby enough history that she took the piece of crap they gave her in public school this year and threw it across the room a couple of nights ago, yelling about all the lies and flatout errors in it. Though on reflection that might actually do more to get her into a camp than it will to keep her out of one.

  56. Duncan Hunter trotted out the “well we all need to sacrifice” meme on Hannity.

    Good luck getting the Republicans to stand up to this totalitarian regime. They are utterly clueless and or spineless (news to many I’m sure).

    The kicker to what Redwine said at #48 is that the Republicans are going to give them cover.

  57. Well now all those attentional funds beefing up the Northern Border rather than the Southern one make since. I hold out little hope for help from DC no matter who has the reins. The Dems are just more in our faces than the Republicans, but just as evil. I love the Tea Party people, but fear for them this Government as gotten so defensive that anything is possible.

  58. We are being FELT UP at the airport upon orders from a regime that is clearly out to destroy this country and that is all we can get out of you Hunter. YOU ARE A F*CKING DISGRACE.

  59. #59 November 23, 2010 at 8:39 pm
    Rock commented:

    Well now all those attentional funds beefing up the Northern Border rather than the Southern one make since. I hold out little hope for help from DC no matter who has the reins. The Dems are just more in our faces than the Republicans, but just as evil. I love the Tea Party people, but fear for them this Government as gotten so defensive that anything is possible.
    ________

    What funds? I live less than 100 miles from the Northern border. You kind of notice things like flights of black helicopters and Border Patrol up here.

  60. ++

    hate to post this seeing as how i dfidn’t fact
    check it so to speak, but here goes anyways..

    George H.W. Bush infused every federal department with the UN
    sustainable development principles, and they’ve been followed by
    all presidents since

    i must always remember to not think the worst at first glance, and search for context on any issue, but time is running out, so if it’s not factual (ie: i don’t believe Bush 43 followed Obama’s or anyone’s new world order plans, especially going into Iraq w/out their “permission”)..

    ==

  61. Didn’t Bush create the TSA?

  62. #63 November 23, 2010 at 8:54 pm
    Harrison commented:

    Didn’t Bush create the TSA?
    ________

    Yes – sort of. The Patriot Act has his signature on it too. However, the plans for both the Patriot Act and Homeland Security had been drawn up under the Clinton administration. Have you noticed how many players from the Clinton administration are members of the Obama regime?

  63. Isn’t it amazing, Constitutional Rights for illegal immigrants and terrorist and the loss of rights to the American people. Rush Limbaugh said it best, “Kid glove treatment for terrorist and rubber glove treatment for the American people”. Drudge was right, the terrorist have won. Can rebellion be far off?

  64. How do we know for sure they’re scanners? How do we know that Obama won’t put some kind of machine that obliterates people a la the Star Trek episode in which two planets engaged in a war had their people go into a booth to be disintegrated.

  65. #
    #66 November 23, 2010 at 9:27 pm
    apodoca commented:

    How do we know for sure they’re scanners? How do we know that Obama won’t put some kind of machine that obliterates people a la the Star Trek episode in which two planets engaged in a war had their people go into a booth to be disintegrated.
    _______
    Now that is truly deserving of the Tinfoil Hat Award.

  66. I saw on Drudge tonight that Ron Paul has to submit to the gropings due to metal in his knees. He suggests boycotting the airlines to make the point, for the time being. At very least, his voice adds energy to the debate / resistance… As far as being near a tipping point, maybe. But I have vivid memories of the period 1963-1975: it was one riot, political and racial, after another. Not to mention high profile assassinations: Pres. Kennedy, his brother and MLK, Malcom X, George Wallace. It was a free-for-all.

  67. Just bought two of the newly banned radar detector/scramblers. I have one already. Had it for a decade. The FCC has decided that the rocky mountain radar RMR-450 indeed does interfere with police radar and laser…..DUH I knew this a decade ago and screwed thier ass over all this time. The radar manufacturers made a function to alert the officer of this on his radar gun. I’m a former NAVAL electronic warfare operator, DoD field service rep, and double EE. It works and it is costing the states money. THAT is why it is targeted. More of your freedoms supressed. None of the State nor governments business. F em. catch me if you can.
    I screwed you just the other day with the family in the car and my double EE son calling the shots. LOL This goverment is out of hand and control. I am so far out in frount I’l never be seen. I know where your equipment is and can avoid search and seizure. powder is dry. game on.

  68. Even the republicans are voting for this socialist crap. They are on board to support Senate bill 510. This is outrageous! Stop the madness!

    Senate bill 510 if passed would,

    “This tyrannical law puts all food production (yes, even food produced in your own garden) under the authority of the Department of Homeland Security. Yep — the very same people running the TSA and its naked body scanner / passenger groping programs.”

    “This law would also give the U.S. government the power to arrest any backyard food producer as a felon (a “smuggler”) for merely growing lettuce and selling it at a local farmer’s market.”

    Read more below,

    http://www.naturalnews.com/030418_Food_Safety_Modernization_Act_seeds.html

  69. And how does the esteemed Secretary plan to accommodate the hundreds of thousand of holders of state-issued concealed carry permits? If I show up at a checkpoint and present my license, and indicate where my firearm is, will I still be subjected to these security measures? From this crowd, I think such a prospect will tie them in knots. After all, it was only a few days ago they finally gave flight deck personnel something of a concession. The bureaucracy fretted about that a pilot, in whose hands are all lives on board, might have a weapon.

  70. ++

    Barbara #68

    did you ever think anything like what’s happened in the past
    two years alone would happen in the future back then??

    i doubt it, and they have been quite busy setting everything in place, they still are.. Marxists & Islamists have been working towards a NWO for decades, but for some strange reason, i don’t believe it’s the same NWO Bush 41 had in mind (perhaps Babs did though)..

    ==

  71. We’ll see what happens tomorrow. So far, the level of resistance versus acceptance of the new regime indicates that the first part of Jim’s headline is really all too true.

    There has not been any demonstrations, no outrage from politicians of either party other than a very few. Polls are NOT overwhelming against the treatment, the American public accepts it if they themselves get through with minimal hassle.

    Lost in all the commentary that I have seen on TV and most of the web is that this is caused by moslems practicing islamic jihad.

    Yet the federal government’s response has been more draconian than anyone has imagined, certainly more of a threat to freedom than any moslem could ever be.

  72. #68 November 23, 2010 at 9:43 pm
    Barbara commented:

    I saw on Drudge tonight that Ron Paul has to submit to the gropings due to metal in his knees. He suggests boycotting the airlines to make the point, for the time being. At very least, his voice adds energy to the debate / resistance… As far as being near a tipping point, maybe. But I have vivid memories of the period 1963-1975: it was one riot, political and racial, after another. Not to mention high profile assassinations: Pres. Kennedy, his brother and MLK, Malcom X, George Wallace. It was a free-for-all.
    _____________
    Yes, it was total anarchy – and deliberate. Now, do you know what the purpose of anarchy is? To create so much disruption that the populace will do almost anything to make it stop. So, you partner with Yasser Arafat as a “peace partner” or you send anti-war anarchists Bill Clinton, John Kerry and many more to Washington to rule us all and put Bil Ayers, bomber extraorinaire, in charge of our nation’s teacher education.

    That era went away because they got what they wanted – to be put in charge.

  73. No, it is not caused by moslems practicing jihad Robert. This is caused by communists who have taken over our government with the intent to radically change our nation, our culture, our laws and our way of life.

  74. Oh yes, of course Granny. My mistake oh one who knows everything about everything.

  75. A bedtime story:
    Of the people, by the people, for the people, that was the way it was. We should have seen it coming and prepared for the civil disobedience that occurred. We even started it ourselves with protest demonstrations and mass refusals of the airport naked scans.
    But then the anarchists got involved along with SEIU thugs operating incognito. It started to get real ugly. Property was destroyed. Cars were burning in the streets. Many stores were looted.
    The police pushed back hard and and the demonstrators reacted with seemingly mindless violence. Policemen were injured and some were killed. Many innocent bystanders got hurt and some of them died too. The police reacted fiercely with gas, clubs, and mass arrests and more people got hurt . Between the thugs and the police the streets were not safe. The people clamored for protection, they begged for the government to restore order. Obama “reluctantly” obliged and declared Martial Law. Curfew is imposed. No travel after dark is permitted.
    The INTERNET is tightly controlled with all political and religious blogs shut down. For the sake of “security”, prior permission is required for all travel.
    Make sure you have your papers on you at all times. Failure to provide identification is cause for suspicion and arrest. Many arrested just disappeared.
    The streets are quiet now.

  76. #77 November 23, 2010 at 10:59 pm
    arnonerik commented:

    A bedtime story

    I fear that this will come eventually. The regime is trying to “nudge” us toward even minimal rebellion so they can impose martial law. The signs are everywhere. The unions are today’s Nazi brownshirts. Never feel pity for TSA workers. Thugs will always say that they are only doing their job. As I’ve said before, the soft tyranny has passed and the real, hard tyranny is upon us. Emperor Hussein and his comrades are laughing. They are stealing our money, our precious liberty and our lives. Perhaps the rebellion should happen before we are summarily disarmed and martial law is in place.

    Welcome to the gulag.

  77. And, surely, UaW members are exempt as well.

  78. Napolezbotano should have put one-tenth of the energy trying to keep illegal aliens from crossing the Arizona border as she has humiliating tax-paying American citizens trying to fly home for Thanksgiving—-then this country would be a lot cleaner of the scum-sucking banditos from south of the border.

  79. Funny, a few days ago I painted exactly that scenario.

    Ignore the fact that using this “fantastic idea” will hurt the economy most. Imagine the crowd in subways or train stations, waiting for the scan.

    Ironically, that makes train and subway stations perfect targets for terrorists. Lots of people, easy to kill.

  80. TSA is working with the terrorist!

  81. The terrorists have turned us all into a bunch of weenies! They have won!

  82. The only thing that is necessary for airport security is profiling. Attempting to close the door after the horse has bolted is useless. Searching old people, disabled and children is totally unnecessary.

  83. This sounds like a de facto internal passport system is under construction.

  84. There will soon be a regulation – not a law since that would have to go through Congress, a regulation requiring scanners at every entrance and exit in every building whether residential or commercial and the cost will be borne by the occupant. No scanner? Stay inside.

  85. will this mean an increase in the number of TSA screeners? Could this be the beginning of that civilian force that O was threatening back in the early days? That civilian armed force that would be larger than the military? How much power will these people have – the increased work force. If they are stopping, searching and seizing at the airports will they do the same on our subways and bus lines and trains?

  86. Surprised to see you crabbing about this, Mr. Hoft. It all designed just to keep us safe, and it was the natural obvious extension of The Patriot Act.

    Thanks for supporting the empire and its security force. If it is good for Iraq, it is obviously good for America, right?

  87. @ Granny # 61
    Back in Apr 2009… It was reported that millions in stimulus funds to upgrade and install new border stations between the US and Canada where needed to to create jobs, guess another lie just found daylight. If as you say nothing has transpired. and I have no reason to question you it looks like we been duped again. Way to go, and thanks always enjoy your posts.

  88. BG Thanks for the links. My point in all this was to off handily suggest that while the Southern Borders are wide open, it would seem the Northern Borders are clamping down, not so much to hamper those coming in, but rather to prevent many from leaving

  89. ++

    Rock #93

    you’re welcome..

    No 9/11 Hijackers Came Through Canada, But
    That Doesn’t Mean Canada Is Terrorist-Free ..

    we’re slowly sinking in quicksand, but don’t bother telling anyone
    (not that we don’t know it), cause we’re also in denial of denial..

    ==

  90. They are working on finishing their first stage with the pat-downs and the naked scanners.
    The second phase will be the start up of the FEMA camps. The third phase will be the mass execution. They already have the plastic coffins that can hold four or five bodies and they are preparing the mass graves to bury the executed. They will not burn the bodies the why the Nazi did because it leaves a certain smell that people will know what it is. There will not be a election in 2012 because Comrade Obama and George Soros will be the dictators of Amerika. I honestly believe the George Soros a non-believing Jew actually admired the the Nazis. We all know about Comrade Obama his whole family has been communist.

  91. But you cheered on the government when they used these tactics on dopers. And in your haste to get at the dope fiends you tore down the protections. Now who ya gonna call?

    http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2010/11/government-way.html

  92. Here is a reprise of a bit I wrote in 2005 warning you what was coming. And back then I was a hysterical old lady:

    http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2010/11/man-for-all-seasons-reprise.html

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