Barack Obama Would Sneak Off to Koran Classes Says Former Teacher
Posted by Jim Hoft on Sunday, November 7, 2010, 5:06 PM
After years in the spotlight and two years in the White House a media outlet is finally reporting on Barack Obama’s Muslim youth.
Malik Obama, older Muslim brother to Barack Obama, holds an undated picture of Barak, left, and himself, middle, and an unidentified friend in his shop in eastern Kenya. (Karel Prinsloo, AP)
The Australian reported, via Free Republic:
AS a schoolboy in Jakarta, Barack Obama attended Muslim prayer sessions with his classmates against the wishes of his mother.
The US President’s former grade three teacher said that Mr Obama – who was known as “Barry” when he attended the Menteng One school in Jakarta – studied the Koran and went to classes on Islam, despite the objections of Anne Dunham, a Roman Catholic.
The teacher’s recollections will add to speculation about Mr Obama’s links to Islam during his much-anticipated visit to Indonesia, the world’s most populous Muslim nation, as part of his ten-day tour of Asia.
His middle name, Hussein, and the fact that his stepfather was a Muslim, have combined to perpetuate rumours about Mr Obama’s religious leanings. The number of Americans who think that he is a Muslim has grown since his inauguration to one in five.
Mr Obama moved to Indonesia with his mother and Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, when he was 6, and lived there for four years. In his memoirs he recalled his time in the country as the “bounty of a young man’s life” and there is affection and pride among Indonesians for the boy who ended up as President of the United States.
The teacher, Effendi, who taught at Menteng One for 29 years, remembers Mr Obama as a “fat, curly-haired, curious boy”. The school had an international mix of pupils, including Christians, Hindus, Buddhists and Muslims.
Mr Obama attended classes on Islam while the Christians attended classes on Christianity, said Effendi. Barry, he said, was alone among the pupils in that he insisted on attending both.
“His mother did not like him learning Islam, although his father was a Muslim. Sometimes she came to the school; she was angry with the religious teacher and said ‘Why did you teach him the Koran?’” said Effendi.
“But he kept going to the classes because he was interested in Islam. He would also join the other pupils for Muslim prayers.”
Both Barack Obama’s father and step-father were Muslim.
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bg commented:
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dang.. must have posted this (along with others) at least 2 to 3 dozen times alone..
“Mengagi”
[While the word "mengaji" means to either learn or study, however, the actual usage of the word "mengaji" in Indonesian and Malaysian societies means the study of learning to recite the Quran in the Arabic language rather than the native tongue. "Mengagi" is a word and a term that is accorded the highest value and status in the mindset of fundamentalist societies here in Southeast Asia. To put it quite simply, "mengaji classes" are not something that a non practicing or so-called moderate Muslim family would ever send their child to. To put this is perhaps a Christian context, this is something above and beyond simply enrolling your child
in Sunday school classes.
The fact that Obama had attended mengaji classes is well known
in Indonesia and has left many there wondering just when Obama
is going to come out of the closet.]
[But this is how Indonesians see Obama, they don't see him as an
apostate at all, they see him as a crusader for the cause of Islam.]
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Valerie commented:
And his mother was a commie who thought religion is the opiate of the masses.
AuntieMadder commented:
…despite the objections of Anne Dunham, a Roman Catholic.
I can’t seem to force myself to read past that little nugget of BS.
Swifty commented:
Until an official pronouncement from an Islam court, he is still a Muslim. He’s also into black liberation theology as taught by Rev. Wright.
Auntie Em commented:
Obama could come out and just say that he is a Muslim, but that would be telling the truth.
And we know that ain’t gonna happen!!
Rock commented:
Short version, he hates America:(
bg commented:
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“one of the pettiest sounds on Earth at sunset” ~ BHO
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Granny commented:
I have no clue where on earth they ever got the idea that Stanley Anne Dunham was a Roman Catholic. The only record of church attendance on her part I have ever come across is mention of her and her parents attending a unitarian church when they lived in the Seattle area, one that was known as the “Little Red Church” because many of the members were communist.
Joanne commented:
You tell people Obama is a muslim, and some people seem to find no problem with Obama being a muslim leading America. Even when people aren’t so blind to see that Obama is a muslim, they don’t have a problem with it…..morons the lot of them.
Obama is a muslim who is not eligible according to the Constitution of the United States, and he knows it, so what do people really think is going on? Wake the beans up.
Kenny Solomon commented:
I’ve almost stopped caring if he is or if he isn’t.
What I care about is the abject usurpation of Constitutional Authority by the entire administration.
The “nudge” factor is growing by the day.
Cass Sunstein is at it again…… The Office Of Information And Regulatory Policy has drawn up what has just become a shiny and brand-spankin’ new……
Executive Order — Controlled Unclassified Information.
Dated 4 November 2010…… Click and read it.
Here’s another one…….
Executive Order–Order of Succession Within the Department of Justice.
Same date…. 4 November 2010.
———–
Are we having fun yet ?
bg commented:
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the NOI & BLT are so intertwined it’s
absolutely ridiculous to deny it.. gah!!
just a sample:
Black Liberation Theology & Marxism & Islam
Marxism and Islamism
Islamism and Black Liberation Theology
“For 12 long years I lived within the narrow-minded confines of the ‘straitjacket world’ created by my strong belief that Elijah Muhammad was a messenger direct from God Himself, and my faith in what I now see to be a pseudo-religious philosophy that he preaches…. I shall never rest until I have undone the harm I did to so many well-meaning, innocent Negroes who through my own evangelistic zeal now believe in him even more fanatically and more blindly than I did.”
Malcolm X
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Rbosque commented:
Muslim or not, he wasn’t born here so he’s ineligible. He’s a Manchurian President in every sense. His interests are not in harmony with the Constitution he supposedly swore to defend. He is ILLEGITIMATE.
bg commented:
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Kenny Solomon @ 5:37 pm #10
re: [I’ve almost stopped caring if he is or if he isn’t.]
oh i gave up long ago, as my bottom line
has (more or less) noted many a time..
whether or not Obama is a Muslim matters not,
that he is aiding and abetting Islamists is a fact..
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shibumi commented:
This isn’t surprising. He was a young boy,and wanted to have someone in common with the kids around him and his Father figures. So I can see sneaking off to Islam class as something that isn’t unexpected.
And yes, he did have a messed up upbringing, which we are now paying for. I pity his daughters.
Granny commented:
RbosqueNo Gravatar
November 7th, 2010 | 5:43 pm | #12
Muslim or not, he wasn’t born here so he’s ineligible. He’s a Manchurian President in every sense. His interests are not in harmony with the Constitution he supposedly swore to defend. He is ILLEGITIMATE.
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If I have said this once, at this point I have said this 1000 times. Where he was born is immaterial. He was born a DUAL citizen. His father of record was NOT a US citizen. he was either Kenyan or British (perhaps both). Children born to dual citizens are not “natural born” no matter where they are born.
By the regulations and laws in place at the time that Obama was born, when he turned 18 he had to choose in which nation he would claim citizenship. He had to formally decline citizenship in one and formally take up his citizenship in the other, including taking the Oath of Citizenship, like all other naturalized citizens. (The specific classification was naturalized by birth.) There would be even now State Department records and formal naturalization papers – papers that clearly state “not eligible for the presidency.” (One of my daughters was naturalized at birth.)
Obama says on his own website that he “let his Kenyan citizenship lapse.” In other words, he did nothing about it, from which can be concluded he also did nothing formally about his US citizenship. Perhaps he still holds the Indonesian citizenship that was conferred on him when Soetoro adopted him.
Bobbi commented:
Right the Dunhams moved to Washigton because the school there had several ” fellow translate” ad teachers. Never heard of the Roman Cathilic Church and Communism being compatible.
rick554 commented:
I’m guessing a tad more then “one in five” believe Barry is a muslim. More like 3 out of 5 I’ll bet
bitterclinger commented:
Kenny, did you forward those links to Glenn Beck? He’s the only one who would disseminate them.
bg commented:
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this is just to soften the bubble that can no longer not burst.. i truly don’t
see how he could “sneak off” when he was outright enrolled in the class..
besides, how does he explain the following??
“In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother
I made faces during Quranic studies,” wrote Obama.
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Bogdan from Australia commented:
What you can do if your MILITARY HAS NO BALLS to enforce the AMERICAN CONSTITUTION.
In Tom Clancy’s book “Clear And Present Danger” (but I remember it better from the movie) the dying chief of CIA (played by one of my favourites – Earl James Jones) explains to Jack Ryan – his deputy that he (Ryan) has sworn his allegiance to the AMERICAN CONSTITUTION and not to his president, so the right and the law was on his side in his struggle agains the US corrupt President(don’t remember his name).
There is no doubt that OBAMA has already broken and abused your constitution many times over and should be forced out of the office long time ago.
In fact, Obama began breaking Constitution even before ascending the Office.
I believe that when finally deposed, Obama should be tried for a high treason against the Constitution of the US and executed.
After all, he has damaged the US on a much greater scale than Rosenbergs who have handed the nuke secrets to Stalin, Aldrich Ames and Robert Hansen put together.
I also strongly believe that the only leader who will have the courage to launch the action agains the traitors is SARAH PALIN.
She has already proved her courage many times over.
However, the presence of ALLEN WEST in Congress also makes as feel much more secure.
Allen will be enormously powerful personality in the House and in the entire Congress as well.
He used to express his dislike of Obama in even stronger terms than Palin.
Then there is also MICHELLE BACHMANN.
So not all is lost yet…
Bogdan from Australia commented:
P.S: I meant “military leaders” of course and not the American men and women in uniform.
They are the world’s finest.
Remember the shameful acting by gen. Crystal?
Do such commanders like Crystal have enough courage to challenge Obama?
Can such commanders save America?
aro5o75 commented:
I’m shocked
squeaky commented:
http://www.doubletongued.org/index.php/dictionary/perfumed_prince/
bg commented:
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Granny @ 5:31 pm #8
i believe you are spot on..
[posted about this long ago, nothing like going
round in circles while the O's party hardy.. :p]
Stanley Ann Dunham
[When Ann Dunham arrived in Hawaii, she was a full
fledged radical leftist and practitioner of critical theory.]
[Marxist inspired movement in social and political philosophy
originally associated with the work of the Frankfurt school.]
The Unitarian Church and Obama’s Religious Upbringing
aah, Obama the stampeding UNACORN,
still tossing US butterfLies to distract..
oh yeah, not to mention Frank Davis..
like Mother like Son??
if true, how many (fitb) clues do we (fitb) need?? gah!!
to be continued..
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bg commented:
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re: #25
“deconstructing the myth”
BREAKING THE WAR MENTALITY
by Barack Obama
[.] “It seems that students here are fairly aware of the nuclear problem, and it makes for an underlying frustration. We try to talk to that
frustration.” Consequently. the thrust of ARA is towards generating dialogue which will give people a rational handle on this controversial subject. this includes bringing speakers like Daniel ElIsberg to campus, publishing fact sheets compiled by interested faculty, and investigating the possible development of an interdisciplinary program in the Columbia curriculum dealing with peace, disarmament, and ‘world order.
Tied in with such a thrust is the absence of what Don calls “a party line.” By taking an almost apolitical approach to the problem, ARA hopes to get the university to take nuclear arms issues seriously. “People don’t like having their intelligence insulted,” says Don, “so we try to disseminate information and allow the individual to make his or her own decision.”
[..]
Nevertheless, the Western World did not complain in 1933 because Hitler, though a fascist and a totalitarian, was seen, like countless American puppet dictators today, as someone who leaves the established order in place.
Not so the Greens. If a group of young, anti-establishment pacifists with unusual ideas and uncomfortable answers to hard questions terrifies us more today than Hitler, Himmler, Goering and Goebbels did back in 1933, our terror says more about us than it does about the Greens or the Germans.
It indicates that we have failed to comprehend the meaning of Nazism and blind obedience to authority in their full horror, and that we, unlike the Greens, have yet ourselves to learn the democratic lesson that we have taught the Germans so well.]
[a bit more @ bg #12]
Young Obama Wrote Article Blaming
America For ‘Growing Threat of War’
[If Obama still has this sensibility, he could be poised to take American foreign policy sharply to the left, notwithstanding the centrist foreign policy team he has assembled. Moreover, since Obama didn’t recognize the Soviet menace during the Cold War and blamed the possibility of war entirely on the United States, there’s good reason to think that today he could lack the moral clarity needed to fight radical Islam.]
anyone in their right mind still think there’s an “IF”??
Warlord Obama Walking the Plank to a Dhimmi Nation
[Obama's leniency toward Islam provokes the question of whose and what interests he is really standing for. The man with the name Barack Hussein Obama apologizes for America to Muslim nations while he endorses Islam in America. However shocking it may seem, and whatever the intentions, with Islam's nose in American government, the socialist plans are paving the way to generations of dhimmitude. The inflicting control over American lives the plans will cause and the taxes Americans will have to pay to put them into action is analogous to a jizya tax in accordance to Islamic doctrine–taxes imposed on non-Muslims to control them until they embrace Islam completely.]
don’t tell me they cannot connect the dots, whatever Obama is doing,
he’s doing it deliberately, with the utmost open & incognito support..
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bg commented:
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Bogdan from Australia @ 6:17 pm #22
re: [P.S: I meant “military leaders” of course]
oh yes, you hit that nail (unfortunately
for all of US, it’s in our coffin) head on..
ie: Terror czar deserves honorary membership in the Muslim Brotherhood
[PHOENIX (February 18, 2010) -The American Islamic Forum for Democracy (AIFD) is decrying remarks made by the nation's leading terrorism advisor to President Obama, John Brennan at the recent White House Office of Public Engagement's, "Dialogue on our Nations Security" at NYU on February 13, 2010. Brennan's comments demonstrate extreme negligence and a complete lack of understanding of the complexities of political Islam and the agenda of the Muslim Brotherhood. AIFD is horrified that the nation's leading expert on counterterrorism would allow himself to become a shill for the very political movement (Islamism) which ultimately fuels the radicals from which he is expected to protect the United States.
Defeating the ideology of Political Islam (Islamism) needs to be the focal point of the United States efforts at ending Islamist extremism. Yet again we see a highly placed government official unable to identify and discuss the root of the threat. Brennan was more focused, if not obsessed, on appealing to the narrative of victimology that is being perpetuated by well-funded Islamists in the American Muslim communities. His inability to even mention the words "political Islam" speaks volumes on the administrations capability to confront the radicals the United States is increasingly facing.
"As an American Muslim, John Brennan's apologies deeply offend me and set back true efforts at reforming my faith" said Dr. M. Zuhdi Jasser, President and Founder of AIFD. "Brennan and the Administration may as well register as publicists and promotional agents for the Muslim Brotherhood and their ideology."]
more here..
ie: American Muslim organization says President Obama is wrong
[The President commented that:
"Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as everyone else in this country. And that includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in Lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances. This is America."
Yes, Mr. President, this is America and you have fundamentally misunderstood the stakes in this discussion and the sentiments of the American people. Instead, you have focused on the very issue that the Islamist propagandists wish you to-- the narrative that Americans somehow need lectures about Islam, Muslims, and religious freedom.
Your message to Americans will be spun on Al Jazeera and by Islamists across the world that President Obama reassured a friendly global Muslim audience at the White House Ramadan dinner that he was going to remind Americans about the principles of religious freedom for Muslims since they seem to be trampling over those principles in the local dispute at Ground Zero in New York.
Mr. President this is not about religious freedom. It is about the importance of the World Trade Center site to the psyche of the American People. It is about a blatant attack on our sovereignty by people whose ideology ultimately demands the elimination of our way of life. While Imam Faisal Rauf may not share their violent tendencies he does seem to share a belief that Islamic structures are a political statement and even Ground Zero should be looked upon through the lens of political Islam and not a solely American one.
As a Muslim desperate to reform his faith, your remarks take us backwards from the day that my faith will come into modernity. I do not stand to eliminate Imam Rauf's religious freedom; I stand to make sure that my children's religious freedom will be determined by the liberty guaranteed in the American Constitution and not by clerics or leaders who are apologists for shar'iah law and will tell me what religious freedom is.]
a bit more at link..
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Simon commented:
If all the Muslims died, what would we lose?
Kenny Solomon commented:
Bitterclinger….. I have a feeling Mr. Beck thinks me a tad on the loon side…… even though all I’ve ever sent them are facts and not bothered them with long-run mails and opinions.
He’s thinking ‘big picture’, but nowhere near big enough.
Thing is, more people than just me have been fifty steps ahead of Mr. Beck with what’s going on. Some folks here – like “bg” are far past and ahead of what Mr. Beck is on about.
Beck’s talked about ICLEI and ICR2P (plus the overall UN Agenda 21) a few times, then basically dropped it.
He’s got no idea that ICLEI is already in our Federal Government, doling out money with the Statist strings fully attached, but for now, they’re basically hidden from view of the states getting the money.
Click and read: The Partnership For Sustainable Communities.
That IS all of ICLEI – 100% buy-in – and it’s at the Federal level. State sovereignty and Rights be damned.
He’s not touched that as far as I know.
States of Revelation commented:
You will likely recall a peculiar (and a seemingly ignorant) comment that Obama made to the press corps during one of his presidential campaign junkets: “. . . How many states have we visited so far, fifty-seven?”
Ignorant? Not so much.
For Americans, that there are fifty states in the Union is a no-brainer. For someone raised and ingrained in Arab culture, such a mistake is understandable: Early on in their education, Arab children are expected to memorize the fifty-seven Arab States. During the press conference, he was tired and got confused about what Nation he was talking about: His or the United States.
It’s taken many years to invent and prepare Barack Obama for this Presidency. It’s likely that a few of the many thousands investigating him will discover the Who’s and Why’s of How the plan came together.
“These are great times we’re livin’ bro’s.”
bg commented:
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Kenny Solomon @ 7:28 pm #30
[“We’re working to change the way government works, and that
means investing tax dollars wisely and well,” President Obama said
in a statement. “We want to make sure that when we’re building infrastructure, we’re considering how housing, transportation, and
the environment all impact each other. These grants are designed
to get the biggest bang for our tax dollar buck.”]
might as well call me a loon too, but non the
less, i believe this may, nay, is connected..
Social Engineering Bill In Senate Will Force You Into City
[* Is a blueprint for the transformation
of our society into total Federal control.
* Will enforce Federal Sustainable Development
zoning and control of local communities.
* Will create a massive new
“development” bureaucracy.
* Will drive up the cost of energy
to heat and cool your home.
* Will drive up the cost of gasoline
as a way to get you out of your car.
* Will force you to spend thousands of
dollars on your home in order to comply.]
oh yeah, there’s still more, but hey, what do we know.. /s/
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jef costello commented:
He is a Muzzy, and before he leaves office will do everything in his power to bring as many of these rotten culties into America. Hussein is the worst thing to EVER happened to America.
Rock commented:
And yet those tasked with the Nations survival do nothing. I fear for our country and her people. We have been betrayed by greed, and ignorance within our halls of government. Wealth over sacrifice, power over patriotism seems to have cast a dirty gloom over the country.
Kenny Solomon commented:
bg………
I know about that social engineering bill…. that’s just part of ICLEI.
ICLEI is an infestation.
There’s only one way to get rid of an infestation.
There’s also ICR2P…… That’s the military end, a one-world police force/court system and all the treaties, like Small Arms, UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, etc…..
UN Agenda 21 and something called “Global Governance 2025″…..that’s a CIA thing —- It’s f.o.i.a., look it up
Peggy R commented:
I echo the others who shake their heads at the idea that Anne Dunham–not her married names–was Roman Catholic. There is evidence of her being raised in rather lefty protestant circles. Never, ever has their been a suggestion she was RC. The school she sent Barry to in Indonesia was RC I understood, however. That’s the only RC connection I ever heard of.
wanumba commented:
“Effendi” is not anyone’s name, but an honorific title.
So, they don’t even know who they talked to.
Hate the duplicitous media. S. Ann Dunham, young unmarried and pregnant, was a “Roman Catholic.” PULEEZE. Spin some more, Obama PRAVDA, this entire story needs some more washing to make it clean.
bg commented:
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Kenny Solomon @ 8:26 pm #35
just a sample:
UN Agenda 21
did that long ago too, has Rockefeller
connections all over the place.. gah!!
Global Governance 2025
much more @ bg #34 for one (several others as well)..
links @ links..
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Taqiyyotomist commented:
bg, Kenny, you all rock.
Look to Christ and biblical prophecy, is this dishwasher’s opinion. It’s good to know the details, I suppose. If you’re about to survive something and want to be able to tell the other survivors exactly why it happened.
But I think that we are past that “paradigm” with what we face here. We face the end-times. Plain and simple. I know, I know — people affected by WW1 and WW2, folks in the trenches or in the Camps and all those watching, thought they were in the end-times. People in the Great Depression also. People in the Black Plague.
They were wrong. They were, unfortuntely, History’s version of “The Boy Who Cried ‘Wolf!’”
What we are doing, and I do it myself, is analogous to: I am tied up on the railroad tracks; there is a fast steam-train headed my way; I am going to spend all my time and effort before it strikes, trying to ascertain the details of this particular train. Not just the dimensions, but the sizes of the gears, the method of fueling, the weight of the wheels, the diameter of the bearings, the viscosity of the lubricants, the age of the engineer….
What good will it do? I know so many details about this particular train, it’s not funny — and my knowledge about this train is almost eclipsed by the minutae (and “overall” big-picture, for that matter) posted daily by the likes of some of you.
“OVERALL” is in quotes on purpose. There are bigger forces at work here than men and human organizations.
“What then shall we do?”, as Francis Schaeffer asked. We have instructions, we who are in Christ, and we would do well to heed them, I am thinking.
Basically, can we stop what God has planned? Should we try, if we were to really know that this is the case? Or should we try to bring as many lost men and women to Christ as possible before it all goes down?
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Not to disparage those who dig up all this detail, but to encourage them to see it all from a more “macro” scale.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
All their “agendas” are gonna come to nothing, in the end. We will be persecuted, tortured, and killed just for believing in Christ. Indeed this is happening all over the world, every single day.
But we still, with Christ, win. Satan might realize this, but his people don’t. They believe that they will be successful with all their decades-long plans. Not in the end, which is closer than they think, by my estimation.
Rock commented:
Most here have provided links and quotes that have effectively drowned the lies that the left somehow believes we are still fooled by. In the last few months I have seen the growing confidence here in the believe that our nation is indeed threaten by not only Islam, but many other threats. Knowledge is a powerful tool and its availability only strengthens trust in nation revolving around faith in a loving God, not some ideology mired in unrelenting hate and vile destruction of individual freedoms to pacify a vengeful overlord. So thank you for the dedication in finding the truth and sharing it.
jorgen commented:
“If all the Muslims died, what would we lose?”
Well, if they had all died on 9/11, we would have had 16352 bodies less by todays count (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/)
Hooman commented:
But if history teaches anything, it teaches that simpleminded appeasement or wishful thinking about our adversaries is folly. It means the betrayal of our past, the squandering of our freedom (Ronald Reagan)
Indigo commented:
This story is a lot of crap. Obama’s mother was a secular humanist with leftist leanings if not an outright communist. You will probably have to go back four generations of the Dunhams to find a nominal Christian.
Flavia commented:
His mother a Roman Catholic?
Lmao!
thegoldman commented:
i am shore that a lot more will start to speak about what he did. the big question is who will print it.
Granite commented:
Re: “Children born to dual citizens are not “natural born” no matter where they are born.’
Who told you that? It is wrong. The US Congress voted to confirm Obama UNANIMOUSLY. Would they have done that if the citizenship of Obama’s father affected his Natural Born Citizen status?
Agent 99 commented:
@ # 39 and # 40 via Taqiyyotomist And Anyone Else Interested
http://www.arewelivinginthelastdays.com/news/default.cfm
It is NEWS that is relevant to this issue.
BTW this is , IMO, a great site.
Thanks. And Much Thanks to bg Kenny and others. Always appreciated bg!!
Yes! I have ‘illness’ issues SOOoo bg and others ….THX! (Get fevers and unable to ‘think’ sometimes…a different kind of brain fry as opposed to “this is your brain on drugs” lol!)
Still recovering from Multi-Trauma.
I MADE myself stay alive just for NOV 02!!
YEAH!!!
I always follow Links within links bg!!
billy sol commented:
SO, the Koran teaches Marxism? bet barry was a model student! now if we could just see his transcript!!!
GGMac commented:
Granny, @ #8
Your description of Obama the elder as Barry’s “father of record” is brilliant.
He’s already a sick-joke on the country – wouldn’t it be a perfect sick-joke on him for the Supremes to decide to do their job and force the DNC/Obie to produce his legitimate birth certificate and thus learn his true father actually was a US citizen [such as Frank Marshal Davis]? It would surely be justice to him to complete his circling of the drain by being flushed on down in the midst of the shame of the exposure of his African-parentage scam.
Something which also points to the probable lie of his parentage is the terminology on that Certification of Live Birth which Obie tried to pass off as his birth certificate: Obie/Barry’s name is stated as “Barack Hussein Obama II”.
Anyone of my generation [b. 1938] knows the “II” stands for “the Second”. We also know the designation of “II/the Second” means that child is not the son of the man he’s being named for. It means he’s being named after that man as an honor [or expediency]. If Obie had been sired by the Kenyan student, he would have been named Barack Hussein Obama, JUNIOR, not Barack Hussein Obama, II.
That fake COLB is the only “official” place I’ve seen a “generation designation” associated with Obie’s name.
AuntieMadder commented:
Ya’ know, this report of half-truths, followed by a clip I saw this morning on CNN of one of their “reporters” touring his boyhood home in Indonesia, along with the “Odd…” Jake Trapper blog post yesterday has me wondering if we’re being conditioned. Could it be possible that Prezdint Jackass’ handlers/marketers have learned somehow that the cover is about to be blown and the truth of Prezdint Jackass’ birth place will be disclosed for certain, for once and for all? And that, rather than working damage control after the train wreck, they’re working their spin in advance? Could they be preparing us to respond in a certain way, like “It was mama’s secret that no one knew, not even her son, and, as it turns out, it’s not so bad.”? Or maybe even a “having learned this, I must step down” moment? (Why the latter? Because it’s a hell of a lot less disgraceful then either resigning due to inability to do the job or being impeached or otherwise ousted.)
Spike commented:
Is there anyone here who still dose’nt think that he is a Muslim…and not a f’ng US Citizen!
bg commented:
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Taqiyyotomist #39
thank you..
to try & answer your question (think
there was one in there somewhere)..
God gave us free will.. imho we should use it to the best of our ability, if we die trying, so be it, to thine own self be true, and in doing so we are true to Gods will.. which, again imho, is the reason he gave us free will in the first place.. the way i look at life is.. yes, we were made in Gods image, however, that doesn’t automatically, never mind necessarily, mean physically.. “OR”
‘When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will
fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.’
aka:
‘The only thing necessary for the triumph
of evil is for good men to do nothing.’ EB
Agent 99 #49
thank you & thank you!!
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bg commented:
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clarifying “OR” re: #58
more or less meaning the same samo..
btw, Jesus was not a pacifist..
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Andrea McGriff commented:
What do you think would be happening if the GOP had put a man like Obama in office? Hummmmmm???????????????
John Middlebrook commented:
As a South African, I cannot claim credit for much knowledge of the complexities of your political system. One thing has struck me: I have not found anyone who starts at the beginning. How on God’s Earth was Obama nominated in the first place? Who came up with his nomination? Were they all so dumb as to not look at his background?
I believe that an in-depth investigation should go right back to the nittigritties from the start. I’ll bet you that a few dollars were involved, in which case, from what source/s?
We are all too familiar with the astounding financial deals involved in politics and business since we were described as a “Democratic Nation”, freed from the sins of apartheid.