HOW SAD. Poor Leftists Speak to Empty Field at One Nation Rally (Video)
Posted by Jim Hoft on Sunday, October 3, 2010, 9:06 AM
(Updated and Bumped)
The wacky dishonest left wants you to believe that their crowd matched the Glenn Beck rally last month.
What a crock.
Only a couple of hundred stragglers hung out for the One Nation rally Saturday in Washington DC.
By the time the rally was winding down only a few dozen people were left to cheer the leftist speakers.
The union buses already packed up and left.
What an absolute fail.
Even the AP couldn’t spin it:
While the Beck rally stretched well down the National Mall, Saturday’s event was shaping up to be far smaller, with sparse groups lingering around the reflecting pool and other monuments.
Poor DC Vote Chairwoman Liz Allen was left to talk to herself at the One Nation Rally.
It must have been lonely up there.
Bummer.
Slam Poet Beau Siat spoke to the stragglers at 12:50 PM PST.
His performance should have been called, “Talking to Myself.”
American Power has more shots of the failure rally.
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IronDioPriest commented:
I see that the video says the time is 4:24. Wasn’t the thing supposed to be from noon to 4:00?
Either way, if the festivities weren’t finished, it speaks ill of the event that people didn’t stay until the end. And if the official festivities were finished, huge crowds of tens-of-thousands cannot disperse that quickly.
This thing was an utter fail. I watched about 2/3 of it, and it was plagued with audio problems, anger issues, chaotic arrangement, and Afro-centrism. It was a clumsy marriage of Black activism and rank communism.
Granny commented:
Is that TRASH I see laying all around?
joejm65 commented:
I’m surprised that so few people stayed. It was a union event. Those guys usually get double-time on Saturdays…
Chisum commented:
It’s been quiet today.
I guess Chickenlips the Handicapped Chicken attended the rally.
Maybe he’ll stop in and lay a few eggs of wisdom among us.
USMC Thomas commented:
Maybe it they had held it in someone’s backyard it would appear to have more attendees.
James Hudnall commented:
Where the chirping crickets outnumbered the attendees.
prefounder commented:
showing the tail end of the rally is a rather tacky spin.
I have no idea how many showed up or what was discussed, all i know is I cant stand it when the media and blogs lie about right themed rallies. Please report on this as it happened not some cheap shots.
WE are better than that and I for one don’t fear what they say.
sybilll commented:
Yes, it IS trash you see lying around. Behold:
http://plixi.com/p/48407257
I am sending this to Drudge, too.
prefounder commented:
the C-span.org site is showing a very large crowd that came.
Jim I love ya but sheesh we dont need to lie if they had a large crowd so be it. lets dicsuss what was said etc.
Fredy commented:
Why did not Obama go to his supporters? He ran away like the lying scum he is all about. He does not care to listen to anything but his teleprompter controlled by J. Wright., jr.
Conservative Ken commented:
While I laugh at the turnout of the rally, I am truly frightened by the power those people represent.
It speaks ill of Washington that those few are like kids in Obama’s candy store.
Accorn was there, they and their splinter groups have free reign to commit voter fraud
The UAW was there, they exist on Federal bailout dollars.
CODEPINK, various socialist, mulsim, anti war groups, and the AFL-CIO all sponsored the event.
eddie commented:
I agree with Prefounder…Instead of showing the tail end of the event, I’d really be interested in knowing how many attended.
gil commented:
actually the picture at cspan shows a large crowd, but it isn’t even remotely close to glenn beck’s crowd. this was a freakin joke.
gil commented:
when ed schultz is you most quoted speaker……..
IrishEi commented:
Here is a good shot of the highest point of the rally:
http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp277/StraightTalkingPoint/stuff/DSC_9489.jpg
Still a fraction of 8/28 crowd:
http://iusbvision.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/beck-8-28.jpg
IrishEi commented:
Arrrgh. Try this one for pic of today’s rally:
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/206052/thumbs/r-ONE-NATION-RALLY-huge.jpg
Granny commented:
Unfortunately IrishEi, the photobucket bandwidth is exceeded
Kevin commented:
No matter how many they had, it was a fraction of 8/28, no matter what new math they try to use the pictures don’t lie.
Conspiracy theory about tea party photoshopping of the video in 3, 2, 1……..
http://hardresetamerica.com/
Veryconcerned commented:
So if the Beck rally had “thousands” then what are the estimates of this?
It was estimated Glenn Beck had 350k-500k people and this crowd at it’s height even with paid participants had 8 times LESS. Not bad for the drunken slob Ed Schultz who normally has 4-5 times less ratings than Beck except Beck’s rally was genuine people who cared and this was an astro turf fluff rally with paid members and paid transportation.
IrishEi commented:
Try this one, Granny:
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/206052/thumbs/r-ONE-NATION-RALLY-huge.jpg
jann commented:
You’re joking about what picture he’s showing aren’t you, puhleez. They’re complaining about jobs?? and supporting the guy who’s destroying them. They say they are done with capitalizm but are demanding jobs and selling all their books and signs and drinks, tshirts and whatever. These people don’t know what they are really there for, they think it’s against the war and evil corp. What do they call them…. oh yeah, usefull idiots.
Granny commented:
Wow, Irish Ei – it looks like they asked them to spread out or something so they could show people down at the far end of the mall. The sides are virtually empty!
Militant Conservative commented:
prefounder
October 2nd, 2010 | 4:29 pm | #8
ROFLMBO
Told you this would cost the Dem’s.
America is a capitalist society at heart. Socialism is not in the heart of the average American Democrat or Republican. Your selling what does not want to be bought. LOL
Your and ice cream sales man at the ARTIC.
The Wave continues and gathers strength, the TSUNAMI IS COMING and the grasshoppers do not see it and the ants have already closed the doors. Goodbye socialist terds, this is going to be rough but not so for we that are prepared. powder is dry and your holding the begging bag again. LOL
Al Hussein Bin Obama's Brother In A Mud Hut commented:
Bwahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa!!!!!
IronDioPriest commented:
Until we see a lengthwise aerial shot that includes the grassy areas OUTSIDE the treeline that hems in the reflecting pool, we will not be able to compare the attendance of this rally to Beck’s.
At the 8/28 rally, the entire reflecting pool area between the two monuments was full, as was the grassy areas outside that treeline.
Today’s commie rally looks to be full about 2/3 of the way back towards the Washington Monument, but there are no shots of the huge grassy areas outside the treeline. that leads me to assume that those areas were EMPTY, or else there would be photographs.
Xanderzone commented:
Free bus ride, Free lunch, Free signs, Free t-shirts! If its FREE, they will come…
Lance commented:
“DC residents pay more taxes per capita than any other residents than any other states”
Correction, the DC residents who actually pay taxes pay high taxes. Why? Because they elect corrupt liberals who get votes by decimating their money to bums that don’t work. That’s all on you Eleanor Holmes liberals that have a political monopoly in DC.
Also, you’re not a state! If you don’t enjoy your unique status I’m all for moving it somewhere else. We’ll make you just another sanctuary city in Maryland.
Kirstin commented:
Any overhead or long-pan shots taken during the time the most people were there? That’s best the way to compare with the Glenn Beck event. Before and after pics are fine, but let’s see during if possible, please.
Valerie commented:
prefounder
October 2nd, 2010 | 4:29 pm | #8
“showing the tail end of the rally is a rather tacky spin. …”
Actually, it’s a fair indicator of crowd size and density, because it shows the crowd took nearly no time to disperse. A big crowd, such as for a presidential inauguration or the 4th of July, takes hours to disperse.
The pictures of today’s rally are, like all crowd shots for news outlets, cropped to fit the gathering. The crowd was mostly on one side of the reflecting pool, and did not extend beyond (width) either row of trees. The pictures of the Beck rally, by contrast, showed a huge crowd extending on the other side of the trees, ‘way down into the distance.
I’ve been on that mall on the 4th of July (.5M people) and on a number of ordinary afternoons. On days when demonstrations showed up, I have been known to wander forward to the speakers, in order to find out what’s going on. On a nice day, the Mall is full of tourists. This crowd doesn’t look much bigger than an ordinary nice-day crowd checking out the local color.
Hedgehog commented:
In the 70′s they wound up shouting into empty quadrangles. I hope the same thing happens now. When are the union members going to wake up and realized that the union heads are using their pension money on a political gambit that is likely to bankrupt those pension funds? Some of those members had better step up and take control of the unions, investigate this theft and insure that the thugs are prosecuted. that may not restore the pension funds, but the crooks (read that Commies) should not get away with what they’ve done.
SallyW commented:
They had to run catch that free bus ride and free lunch. Gimme Gimme Gimme from the bottom feeders. Oh.. and someone will come clean up their crap too. http://twitpic.com/2u4aj7
Ought to come out of their welfare check!!
patricia commented:
Check Drudge for pictures of all the trash left behind.
patricia commented:
… my mistake, check HotAir for the trash pix.
AJ commented:
They left enough garbage and mess. The left should be absolutely ashamed of itself for leaving the area in such a state.
If i lived near DC, i would create a group called
“cleaning up the Democrats mess” and show up tomorrow to clean the grounds.
It would be symbolic of whats going to happen after the election in November.
Cnation commented:
Actually, the crowd size wasn’t bad. Going out of your way to spin it otherwise doesn’t do anyone any good, nor does it do much to bolster your credibility.
As someone else already commented, we have nothing to fear from these losers.
-Cnation
neomom commented:
I think it is scary when you consider how many of those people hate our country and our Constitution. No matter how they got there, paid or voluntary, they have unwittingly exposed themselves as enemies of the Country. Much like the paid trolls that attempt to derail our communications with their gutless nonsensical posts, we know who they are and what they are up to. There are more of us then there are of them. They will fail and as we take our country back, more than one will be glad they did.
JD commented:
As far as attendance goes, it was an O’Bummer of a rally.
IrishEi commented:
There was another type of trash at this rally too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wkw7n9Qagu8
This is what the rest of the country needs to see.
eaglewingz08 commented:
I guess this is what people just passing through on their way to the Smithsonian really looks like.
IronDioPriest commented:
There’s a fairly good (conservative) liveblog recap for most of this event here:
http://itsaboutfreedom.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=2831
Lefty Larry commented:
We will bury you!!!!!
eddie commented:
Thank you to IrishEI for the pics
Valerie commented:
Cnation
October 2nd, 2010 | 5:56 pm | #38
Actually, the crowd size wasn’t bad. Going out of your way to spin it otherwise doesn’t do anyone any good, nor does it do much to bolster your credibility.
*************
Look at the middle video clip. See the time. The program was still going on at that time.
billy sol commented:
c’mon, you know the thug union busses left early! they’re union drivers, and their job description calls for them to be checked in at the ritz-carlton of their choice in time for happy hour to begin!
Kemo Sabe commented:
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/206052/thumbs/r-ONE-NATION-RALLY-huge.jpg
A lot of red shirts in the crowd.
Maria commented:
Wasn’t there a story about C-span using pictures from a TEA party rally or the Glenn Beck rally, complete with the “Don’t Treat On Me” flags in the background? I won’t believe anything put out by C-span, and I certainly don’t believe anything from the Huffington Post.
Fred commented:
While the crowd was smaller than Beck, it ws a large crowd, come on. Why are you trying to deliberately mislead by showing the crowd after the thing was over??? Considering the moderate means behind most lib causes, the turnout was very healthy. Your cheap stunt only reinforces the smear campaign cons have instigated since Obama won. Good luck.
Martha commented:
Did anyone else notice in the video, when they are panning the books, to the right, there is a book that looks as if it’s titled “The jewish Question”?
What’s up with that?
Castro Death Watch commented:
I see lots of people showed up, dressed as empty seats!
Marty commented:
The AP changed the story taking out the line with the comparison to the Beck 8/28 rally. (Shh. Hide the evidence.)
Jason commented:
This would be a really good blog if Hoft just stuck to the big scoops and avoided tacky spin like this. Even the photos at American Power, THAT JIM HIMSELF LINKS TO, show substantially more people there. So why insinuate that this “after” photo represents the crowd turnout in any way? Like others have pointed out, there is more than enough to ridicule the left with without resorting to tactics that at best can be described as comedy. Man, this blog is such a mixed bag of downright brilliance and utter tosh.
Maria commented:
Jason/Fred/Cnation/Prefounder – whoever you are, just give it a rest. There were not many people there – especially with all of the busses they had chartered and for all of the left wingnut organizations involved. “Organizing” is what they do for a living, for crying out loud. They laid down a lot of hard-earned union workers’ cash for this fiasco. Like Beck said, they should have had two million people there, but they didn’t. In none of the films, including one where I saw George Clinton perform, did you hear loud cheering or a chorus of voices. They showed a small portion of the crowd once during Clinton’s performance. Who were their so-called celebrity guests? Ed Shultz? Van Jones? Why would anyone want to see/hear them?
Regarding a previous poster’s question about the book, “The Jewish Question” that the anti-capitalists were…ahem…selling at their anti-capitalism rally, it’s a book by Karl Marx.
Jason commented:
Maria: There was a half decent crowd there. Go look at the photos. How long they stayed or who bussed them in, well that’s another matter. But to ignore the photos of the big crowd and post a photo of a dispersed crowd with a few hangers on and insinuate that that was the turnout….just bad journalism/bloggism/whatever.
Jason commented:
Okay, after seeing other media reports & pictures I will concede that it was indeed an abysmal turnout.
Jason commented:
Jason one above ^ isn’t the same person as Jason two above ^^. It’s the age-old blog comment trick (favored mainly by children) of adopting the name of someone you disagree with and then have them “admit” that they were wrong. Yawn.
gus commented:
Eddie and Prefounder. You CLOWNS are entertaining, talking points KOS-boys.
Put up. or STFU. Eddie?? PreLoser? Cnation????
Show us pictures of this LIBTARD ELECTILE dysfunction. Groups of LIBTARDS/UNIONS/FAILURES and LIB talk show failures couldn’t organize a ONE MAN parade.
Prove me wrong LIBTARDS.
gus commented:
One last parting butt whupping for you emotionally disturbed misfit LIBTARDS.
“Maria: There was a half decent crowd there. Go look at the photos. How long they stayed or who bussed them in, well that’s another matter”
Fake JASON. The crowd was NOT HALF DECENT. Just like 11/2, you mentally disturbed misfits can lie your asses off, WE ARE COMING FOR YOU.
And LASTLY. Who bussed them in and how long they stayed.
IS NOT……..Another matter. It is the point
It’s called ASTROTURFING. It isn’t about NORMAL taxpayers having their say. It’s about GOVERNMENT DEPENDENT LOSERS sucking this country DRY. Obama style.
Fake Jason. Your ass must be sore about now.
Valerie commented:
There was a speaker just before the start of the main part of the rally who claimed there was a satellite photo confirming that this demonstration was as large as the Glen Beck demonstration. Somebody needs to ask this man for a copy of the photo. I don’t find it anywhere.
Somebody, please ask him, and get video of the answer.
Prefounder commented:
I hope some of the drunk while posting people
get a grip.
1. not a guy
2. don’t go to kos or huffpo sites
My point was very simple:
There is no reason to mislead what these people are doing as WE will win on substance.
instead of focusing on trash and size of the event how about hammering them on what
was said what was cheered etc?
the ISSUES ……..
Jason commented:
All right, wait, I’ll admit it. I’ve been the same Jason all along. And I’ll admit this: turnout really did suck.
Jason commented:
And also, I just poo-poo’ed in my own diaper. And I’m 27 years old.
Militant Conservative commented:
The looney left is losing thier power in November. 17% of registered democrats are now tea party supporters. This number is too huge to overcome. The fringe elements are always there they just came out of the closet and scared crap out of the normals. Sooooo
the normals look for something normal to vote FOR. The constitution sounds like a really good start. Thanks socialists/progressives good job of distroying the vehicle from within. We’ll take care of the rest in November. Pissants.
Gus, good rant. powder is dry
Espresso Logic - The 6th Sense commented:
prefounder
October 2nd, 2010 | 4:29 pm | #8
Who is this a$$hat?
Espresso Logic - The 6th Sense commented:
prefounder
October 2nd, 2010 | 4:31 pm | #10
Profile:
22
Male
Single (and/or gay)
Has a degree in Wonen’s studies from the local community college.
Unemployed
Live’s in Mom’s basement.
Has skid marks in his underwear.
Libtard ladies!!!! Don’t let this one get away!
Espresso Logic - The 6th Sense commented:
Cnation
October 2nd, 2010 | 5:56 pm | #38
Prefounder is available. You two kids have fun!
Chicago Ray commented:
I actually found the whole afternoon (which I only watched at first for the sad pathetic comedy relief but abandoned it well into the middle) an utter and total embarrassment to the nation, and particularly to the memories of Dr King and mostly the Great Emancipator who had to sit there in his own Memorial and keep himself from evacuating over the entire crew.
Pathetic isn’t even in the same league as this joke was.
One Citizen commented:
wow. More right-wing denial.
I was there and there were well over 100,000 people on hand.
Showing pre and post rally pictures as examples of the crowd really isn’t exactly “Fair Reporting”.
By the time the ending poet and George Clinton took the stage, yes, the crowd had thinned greatly but you negelct to validate that by mentioning that the rally had gone an hour over (4:30-5:00) and that the over 2000 buses that brought in many of the attendees had to be off-site/on the road by 4:00 PM.
Why do the right-wing detractors have to lie and manipulate the news to make their argument?
Doesn’t that just prove their argument bears no weight or merit?
Ken commented:
Ok it was 4:24 pm when it was OVER! But NICE spin! I was there and it an awesome turn out!
gus commented:
One Citizen, you sound like a retarded 4th grader. Get your lips off Opie the Kenyan wonder boys a$$, you’re embarrassing yourself.
gus commented:
KenTARD, I loved all the really cool Socialism signs. Without a UNION you couldn’t get a job scrubbing toilets. You freaks are complete losers. Post a pic of the huge crowd LIBTARD.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. You losers can’t even smell your own stench anymore.
daryl commented:
Which of you two Jasons last name is Opdyke?
One Citizen commented:
Gus, actually, I am a 44 year old small business owner and PROUD Democratic SOCIALIST (Look it up, because, in the words of Inigo Montoya, ” You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”
As for the whole “Union-Bashing” you righty-whities ( I am caucasion so before you start casting racial insults, stop) keep taking part in, you may want to remember that if not for Unions, you would have no Health Insurance (Unions made it possible), no Retirements for middle class workers (Unions made it possible), safe work environments (Unions fought for and achieved standards of safety).
so stop being sucha facist and think about what you are fighting against (Fair access to livable wage jobs, cleaner environments, access to healthcare, right to retirements).
when you look at what you hate, all of it would make YOUR life BETTER.
talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Slappy commented:
Here is a photo comparison of the “Restoring Honor” (Tea Party) Rally on 8-28-10 and “One Nation” (Left Wing) Rally on 10-02-10, with the aerial photos taken from the same location:
http://tinyurl.com/2w4p792
I’m sure the responses by One Citizen, Ken, Jason, Fred, Cnation, and/or Prefounder will be that they were taken at different times of the day, but let’s see them provide an aerial photo at any time of the day during yesterday’s “One Nation” rally that is close to matching the crowd at Beck’s “Restoring Honor” rally in that picture. Apparently even the loathsome AP doesn’t think any exist based on their comment that the “One Nation” rally “crowds were less dense and didn’t reach as far to the edges as they did during Beck’s rally.”
bg commented:
++
Prefounder @ 2:57 am #70
issues??
okay, by all means, please.. feel free to fill
me in (union membership not required)..
==
bg commented:
++
ht Nance in another thread
#1 photo:
“I was there and there were well over
100,000 people on hand.” One Citizen
#2 photo:
ROTFLMBO!!
photo #1: Restoring Honor Rally
photo #2: One Nation Rally
==
Elmo commented:
The first Crooks and Liars (embedded) link/Nicolle Belle … is amazing. These people are dangerous. Wear earplugs the evening of November Second. The sound of libturd craniums exploding will be deafening.
gus commented:
One Citizen, you’re a clown. A LIBTARD CLOWN.
Lie all you like. That’s what liberals do.
Lie, cheat and steal.
We’re coming for you One Clown.
You’ll know me Clown boy, I’ll be the one with my boot on your neck.
gus commented:
Clown boy likes unions. What a shock. A loser who likes unions.
Look UNIONS invented the wheel!!!
What a pathetic sniveling moron.
Look at what the once proud Democratard party has become.
Clown boy, I bet you know what an emotionally distrubed sissy you are. Don’t you clown boy?
Pete commented:
I was at this rally, I paid my own way to get there on a bus from Chicago, and unions didn’t invent the wheel, but they did create the 40 hour work week. Gus you are just another cheap labor con that wants all of our jobs sent to Myanmar and China. Can you do anything besides call people names?
You’re not coming for anyone, go hide in your gated community and get your orders from mormon freak beck.
Militant Conservative commented:
One Citizen
October 3rd, 2010 | 10:16 am | #85
You are proof that some people never grow up. You live in fantacy land. That you like the unions tells me your a small business that has no Union in your business. Unions were needed once upon a time. (because government had no regulations over fair pay etc). Now that this is taken care of unions are specifically not needed. They are a drag on the economy and business. Sorry your 60 years behind the times.
powder is dry, Get em GUS…..ROFLMBO
eddie commented:
Gus,
Sorry to disabuse you of your notion, but I’m probably more conservative than you lol. I just like to know the truth. If there were 50, 000 people there, I want to know. If there were 200, 000 there, (I’d be POd that that many showed, even if they were paid flunkies), but I still want to know. And you’re attitude doesn’t win our side any converts.
Print the truth. Show the truth. People are smart enough to figure it out for themselves. From the pics shown on other sites, its obvious the crowd size was less than half of Becks.
Espresso Logic - The 6th Sense commented:
I love the smell of desperate Libturds in the morning, afternoon, and all night long!
The Libtards used to have better trolls. These high school kids they are throwing at us are pathetic.
Especially the a$$hat small business owner that loves unions. ROAR!
How many of you small business owners get to work only 40 hours per week?
Pull you heads out of your a$$es you stupid Liturds!
bg commented:
++
okay.. imho, once most BLUE LAWS were whittled down, so were most FAMILIES (mostly black & poor families being hit the hardest), not to mention VALUES in general.. hence, what i’d like to know is, who are or what is most responsible for that stealth contributions towards America’s deterioration??
[What made this secular religion so utterly lethal was its seizure of all
the state's instrument of force and coercion and their immediate use to destroy or control all independent sources of power, such as the church, the professions, private businesses, schools, and, of course, the family.]
[disclaimer, what i mean is who or what
was behind the drive in the first place..]
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Slappy commented:
One Citizen: “Gus, actually, I am a 44 year old small business owner and PROUD Democratic SOCIALIST (Look it up, because, in the words of Inigo Montoya, ‘You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.’”
Good for you. There are plenty of countries that are compatible with your SOCIALIST views, just not this one…you know, the world’s largest economy. You are welcome to leave at any time. At the very least, you should accept that most people in this country are not going to agree with you and you should stop trying to depict us as evil or the “bad guys” when many of us on the Right are NOT the ones asking for others to give us stuff.
BTW, what type of “small business” do you own exactly that is compatible with SOCIALIST views? Also, do you, as a “small business owner,” wait until you are mandated by various government (and Union-supported) regulations before you take actions that benefit your workers or do you take these actions on your own without concern for the regulations because you are a benevolent SOCIALIST that always puts your workers above profits?
bg commented:
++
may i just interject that calling a
(fitb) troll stupid is a moot point..
“one can lead a Liberal Progressive Democrat Socialist to knowledge;
but one cannot make a Liberal Progressive Democrat Socialist think.”
- bg
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Slappy commented:
One Citizen: “As for the whole ‘Union-Bashing’ you righty-whities ( I am caucasion so before you start casting racial insults, stop) keep taking part in, you may want to remember that if not for Unions, you would have no Health Insurance (Unions made it possible), no Retirements for middle class workers (Unions made it possible), safe work environments (Unions fought for and achieved standards of safety). so stop being sucha facist and think about what you are fighting against (Fair access to livable wage jobs, cleaner environments, access to healthcare, right to retirements).”
Yeah, because none of these worker benefits or conditions would have ever existed without Unions. Puh-lease. You act as if the ONLY way the U.S. economy and worker conditions would have improved in the 20th century would have been due to Unions, which is myopic, to say the least. The Unions did serve a purpose at one point in our country’s history — much like the covered wagon — when our economy was taking shape and much-needed business regulations were being implemented, but I don’t know how anyone can say that nowadays considered the mature, developed, over-regulated economy we now have.
The free market should largely dictate what wages and benefits employees receive. After all, companies compete with one another to obtain the best employees. If employees don’t receive some of those benefits, they will simply purchase them on their own or in the case of most workers find an employer who will offer them the benefits. Perhaps purchasing benefits would be more possible for individual workers if the cost of benefits like employer-provided health insurance were lower, too, since they are inflated due to the extra layers that exist between the consumer and the provider, such as is seen in the employer-provided benefits pushed by Unions. The movement in the 20th century towards having employers be responsible for providing various benefits like health insurance has driven up the costs for everyone in this country, even the employees since they’re being protected from the actual costs of their health care and thus overconsume health care and drive up the overall costs paid by everyone.
BTW, we all have “access to health care”. Anyone can go purchase it like we all purchase auto and home insurance, which have not been distorted by employers being expected to fund large portions of it for workers. Of course, part of the reason health care is so expensive and thus has become so difficult for some workers to obtain inexpensively is because we’ve distorted the market, due in part to the demands of Unions (as well as a myriad of unnecessary regulations, many pushed by Unions). Obamacare (and especially the single-payer system SOCIALISTS like you love) is only going to make this worse, considering companies have a profit incentive while the federal government doesn’t. It’s a recipe for disaster to allow the government to interject itself into a major industry and a whole sector of the economy, especially one as important as health care. Part of the reason for high health care costs in this country is due to many unnecessary regulations they have implemented for doctors, businesses, etc. Talk about turning the keys over to the wrong people.
Oh yeah, your comment about “righty-whities ( I am caucasion so before you start casting racial insults, stop)” was laughable. You inject race into the conversation then accuse us of being racist before any of us had responded. Do you not see the hypocrisy or the intellectual dishonesty on your part? Unbelievable.
Slappy commented:
One Citizen: “so stop being sucha facist and think about what you are fighting against (Fair access to livable wage jobs, cleaner environments, access to healthcare, right to retirements). when you look at what you hate, all of it would make YOUR life BETTER. talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.”
Yeah, that’s what critics of Unions are “fighting against.” Puh-lease. Talk about a childish retort. Those of us who are critical of Unions obviously support good, productive workers having those things since all of us are workers and/or have friends and family that are, but we think there is a better way to go about it instead of relying on Unions. Maybe you like having to rely on Unions or the government throwing your scraps, but many of us prefer to determine our own lot in life and take care of ourselves and our loved ones. Imagine that?
It is instructive that you only focus on the benefits that workers receive, not what they are providing to the employers. That’s the same backwards mentality that makes many of us critics of Unions. Driving up the costs of goods and services by mandating benefits are given to unproductive, undeserving workers is counterproductive to our economy and our society. Also, your apparent belief in the benevolence of the Union bosses is absurd. They only support Union workers because they care so deeply about their fellow man, right? Well, unless, like me, you are not member of a union and think that unions and their leaders are causing more damage than assistance to the country’s economy and its workers. In that case, those of us with those opinions are fascists who should be destroyed. Why can’t I believe that Union leaders who spout hateful divisive rhetoric on a regular basis (e.g., the disgusting AFL-CIO’s Richard Trumka) are pushing these issues simply because they want to help the country and Union workers. Just look at their opinions on the issue of “card check” to get a glimpse of their real motivations. What do you think they fear about letting workers providing their opinions via secret ballot? Talk about fascist behavior on their part.
But you keep foolishly believing that those of us on the Right who believe in self sufficiency and independence for able-bodied citizens are the enemy and the “bad guys” and that Unions are the so-called “good guys.” Talk about clueless and deluded.
bg commented:
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Pete @11:01 am #92
re: [another cheap labor con that wants all
of our jobs sent to Myanmar and China]
just a sample:
Obama’s policies will send more US jobs to India, China: Jindal
["The president said he didn't want us to fall behind countries like Brazil, China, India. But, I'll tell you what, if they pursue card check and cap and trade and this massive health care Bill and more government borrowing and more government taxes, we will be sending even more good-paying American jobs to those countries," Jindal told the Fox News.]
just one of many things most obviously aren’t clued in to..
Kanjorski And Carney Send Jobs Overseas
oh don’t tell me, you did you know?! /s/
btw, your bigot slip is showing..
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bg commented:
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One Citizen @ 9:37 am #80
aah, the excuse machine grinds
away- at common sense.. duh!!
Earth to One..
if that were true, wouldn’t the ONE NATION RALLIERS have taken photos of this great event, and show them as proof, like they did with the TEA PARTIER spitting on one Congressmen and calling them names, ie: Barney a faggot, oh wait.. according to Congressman Cleaver, none
of it ever happened.. /gah, i could spit!! sarc/
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sdp126 commented:
While it’s obvious to me that far less people attended the One Nation rally (I was at the 8/28 Restoring Honor rally), I think it’s a low blow to show pictures from AFTER the rally ended. Why can’t we be above the petty oneupmanship and fraud of the extreme left??
Pictures from the height of the rally are enough to prove that Beck’s rally attracted at least 3 times more attendees.
Prefounder commented:
got some strange posters here Jim.
Must admit they are amusing
Thank you for your blog.
GB,,Barbara
One Citizen commented:
Thank GOD you idiots are not in power anymore.
If you were, we’d all be speaking chinese and begging wallstreet for our pension checks (Privatized SSI… Scary thoughts!)
Go massturbate with your guns and “Don’t tread on me” flags to your hearts content.
It is bigots and idiots like you that created the mess we’re deailing with now.
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sdp126 @ 1:45 pm #104
re: [I think it’s a low blow to show
pictures from AFTER the rally ended.]
via GP post:
By the time the rally was winding down only a few
dozen people were left to cheer the leftist speakers.
The union buses already packed up and left.
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??
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Valerie commented:
One Citizen
October 3rd, 2010 | 1:55 pm | #106
“……
It is bigots and idiots like you that created the mess we’re deailing with now.”
You silly child, I’m sure you believe that, because you are not educated enough to follow very recent American history.
bg commented:
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One Jerkoff Citizen
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bg commented:
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One Citizen @ 1:55 pm #106
(Privatized SSI… Scary thoughts!)
other than that, like Valerie said..
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bg commented:
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Prefounder @ 1:54 pm #105
still waiting to hear about the ISSUES..
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Valerie commented:
Short history of the Democratic Party, courtesy of Alfonso Rachel.
http://www.youtube.com/user/machosauceproduction#p/a/u/0/xryXpK042pQ
Essay by the Undisputed Truth on welfare, the dishonest faction in Liberal politics, and the Rev. Wright. This was written in 1971
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLWJMB2ZzoM
SMILING FACES SOMETIMES
WRITERS NORMAN WHITFIELD, BARRETT STRONG
Smiling faces sometimes pretend to be your friend
Smiling faces show no traces of the evil that lurks within
Smiling faces, smiling faces sometimes They don’t tell the truth uh
Smiling faces, smiling faces Tell lies and I got proof
… Beware, beware of the handshake
That hides the snake I’m telling you beware Beware of the pat on the back It just might hold you back Jealousy (jealousy) Misery (misery) Envy I tell you, you can’t see behind smiling faces
… Your enemy won’t do you no harm Cause you’ll know where he’s coming from Don’t let the handshake and the smile fool ya Take my advice I’m only try’ to school ya
bg commented:
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#113
as me dearly departed Gram would say..
coulda woulda shoulda..
aka: sand castle excuses..
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bg commented:
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Valerie @ 2:36 pm #114
i don’t recall seeing that one, and as far as i
can tell, it’s definitely one of his better vids..
thanks..
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Slappy commented:
One Citizen: “Thank GOD you idiots are not in power anymore. If you were, we’d all be speaking chinese and begging wallstreet for our pension checks (Privatized SSI… Scary thoughts!) Go massturbate with your guns and “Don’t tread on me” flags to your hearts content. It is bigots and idiots like you that created the mess we’re deailing with now.”
You’re a Class A jerk. This is your response to my posts? Pathetic, sophomoric, and idiotic beyond belief, but not unexpected from you or many others on your side of the aisle, which is comprised of a high percentage of angry, child-like simpletons. You had no response to what I posted so you tossed out blanket insults against conservatives that revealed more about you than any of us.
The actual content of what you wrote doesn’t even make sense…”we’d all be speaking chinese and begging wallstreet for our pension checks”?!? WTF does that even mean? Obama & Co. are the ones running up the amount of U.S. debt held by the Chinese, and many of us don’t need to rely on Wall Street or the government for anything because we are fiscally responsible in our own lives. Your masturbation reference was even more pathetic.
I’m definitely questioning your claim to be a “44 year old small business owner” based on your behavior in this thread. You probably figured the fake age and profession would give you automatic credibility here but then you actually had to defend your opinions and you were exposed as a liar and a fraud…and someone lacking intelligence, too.
No need to respond. I’m sure you have to spend the rest of the day getting ready for school tomorrow, junior.
Espresso Logic - The 6th Sense commented:
My, my. The Libtard desperatation pot is starting to boil.
Militant Conservative commented:
One Citizen
October 3rd, 2010 | 1:55 pm | #106
You fear what you cannot dominate or control. You fear that I have agun and you do not yet I kill no one. You fear the man who fears God. Your a sick twisted lil freak, I stopped to help the auto accident in front of me this weekend. I let the uneducated masses know that you do not move a crash victim. all the while comforting the male hispanic on the ground, thrown from his vehicle to lie still. Oh yhea, I am the guy you terds turn to when the chips are down. I’ll leave you with this.
“Each applying to me as such and I finding them worthy”.
I help those that are wothy in my eyes. Liberals are worthy of nothing. They help no one
but themselves. powder is dry, dye is cast.
AuntieMadder commented:
Gus, I think you really struck a nerve of these libtards when you brought up their LIBTARD ELECTILE dysfunction.
By the way, may I use that?
AuntieMadder commented:
Slappy, as always, I’ve enjoyed witnessing the written b!tch-slapping you’ve inflicted upon these libtards.
Allen B. Thompson commented:
The president of the United States supports the Communist Party of the United States.
They only want to destroy us.
You do not suppose he does too.
Do you?
NAACP – them too?
I would have never guessed.