Here we go…
Voters in Nevada say they went to vote for conservative Sharron Angle and Harry Reid’s name was already checked.
FOX 5 Vegas reported:
Some voters in Boulder City said they are concerned about fraud at the electronic ballot box.
Voter Joyce Ferrara said when they went to vote for Republican Sharron Angle, her Democratic opponent, Sen. Harry Reid’s name was already checked.
Ferrara said she wasn’t alone in her voting experience. She said her husband and several others voting at the same time all had the same thing happen.
“Something’s not right,” Ferrara said. “One person that’s a fluke. Two, that’s strange. But several within a five minute period of time — that’s wrong.”
Clark County Registrar of Voters Larry Lomax said there is no voter fraud, although the issues do come up because the screens are sensitive. For that reason, a person may not want to have their fingers linger too long on the screen after they make a selection at any time.
“Especially in a community with elderly citizens (they have) difficulty in (casting their) ballot,” Lomax said. “Team leaders said there were complaints (and the) race filled in.”
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Published May 24, 2012 at 8:46 pm - 91 Comments
olm commented:
Bull crap. Im sorry but I do not for one minute believe that this election is going to be fair.
The Dems are addicted to power and like any addict will do anything to keep it.
Militant Conservative commented:
Get ready folks fo wholesale cheating. This will not reflect well upon democrats and just energize the opposition. Powder is dry.
Rock commented:
Cheating by Democraps, who did not see this coming? Recourse from the Justice Department, not a chance. Next Tue. may well be the vote heard around the world. Things might get ugly real quick.
The All Real Numbers Symbol commented:
The Dems are already hard at work. I don’t think this had anything to do with someone’s finger being on the machine too long.
Mark S. commented:
Yep… we are officially in a back-wards 2nd world country when it comes to elections now. Just so that Democraps can keep control of everything….
newton commented:
Scorpions sting.
Rattlesnakes bite.
Tigers hunt and kill.
Vultures feed off carcasses.
Democrats cheat.
It’s part of their nature.
Reno_Dave commented:
I voted last week in Reno, and am also working occasionally as a poll watcher for the Republicans. I didn’t have this problem when I voted.
When the vote machine first fires up after the insertion of the card into the slot, the vote for US Senator appears on the screen on the left hand side.
It’s possible that the voter was resting her hand on the screen over where Reids name would be displayed at the time the ballot pops up, and so the machine may have read it as a vote for Reid. Of course, if this was the case, then random hand placement might pre-select another candidate.
It may be possible that, though Reid is listed on the ballot as “DEM” (Angle is listed as “REP”), someone may have programed the system to include an “Incumbent” designator that isn’t displayed, and is somehow being pre-selected by the software.
Whatever the case, if this woman saw what she saw, then selecting Angle or another candidate would have moved the check mark to that candidate’s selection circle.
Once you work your way through the ballot, the machine gives you two chances to verify your vote, first via a list on the screen, and then secondly, once you tell it to print a paper ballot, via a printed ballot visible to the voter but stored within the machine .
At this point, if you saw any discrepancy, you would probably call a poll worker, and the poll watcher would notice the situation. If not resolved to the satisfaction of the voter, the poll watcher would then call in the lawyers.
Only after viewing the printout are you given the option to actually cast (finalize) your vote.
Two final points:
1) Candidates on the ballot are listed alphabetically, so Angle’s name is listed first, and Reid’s is near the bottom.
2) While watching the polls, I’ve noticed that voters under 50 tend to be quicker than seniors. I’m 52, and completed the process in about three minutes, but I observed a woman in her 70s or 80s who took over 10 minutes. Perhaps it’s familiarity with technology, or maybe older voters have a bit of tremor that makes it a bit more difficult to select the correct circle.
Jules Hamil commented:
If computer hackers can put “worms”/”bugs” in corporate computers, then the hackers can put the same thing in election computers. In my opinion, anyone who is involved in our elections and their rigging, should be tried for high treason. Read the following article….FYI http://www.freerepublic.com:80/focus/f-news/2611303/posts.
SCARY and just in time for THE ELECTION.
texas red commented:
El Renyo,
you should have stopped when you were ahead, ’cause when you tacked on your last two points your jig was up.
olm commented:
My boss has been saying for about 6 months that he sees a revolution coming. This election day could be the last straw.
That being said, everyone expects the Dems to cheat. You would think they would be working hard to be above reproach. That is obviously not happening.
pm commented:
In North Carolina, I think, a man tried twice to vote straight Republican and the machine twice voted straight Democrat instead.
He called officials over and twice they got the same results. On the fifth try, the machine finally correctly registered his vote. (link at Drudge)
This was to be expected. The only thing we don’t know for certain is what they *hope* our response will be. They know what we usually do.
I hope we vote in such huge numbers they can’t possibly cheat their way to a win. Then we can throw the stinking machines out along with the Dems.
Mark S. commented:
Dave.. if those are the cases:
When the vote machine first fires up after the insertion of the card into the slot, the vote for US Senator appears on the screen on the left hand side.
It’s possible that the voter was resting her hand on the screen over where Reids name would be displayed at the time the ballot pops up, and so the machine may have read it as a vote for Reid. Of course, if this was the case, then random hand placement might pre-select another candidate.
Then someone really screwed the pooch in allowing that type of ballot to go in… Everything should be as close to “dead center” as possible on an electronic machine to prevent those kind of ergonomic errors.
It may be possible that, though Reid is listed on the ballot as “DEM” (Angle is listed as “REP”), someone may have programed the system to include an “Incumbent” designator that isn’t displayed, and is somehow being pre-selected by the software.
And that one is a “f—ing fiasco” if it’s set up that way.. Ballots are supposed to be blank until you make a choice, not pre-selected for you.. you wouldnt’ want your paper ballot to have a name already blackened in.. so why do you allow your electronic ballot to be done so?
I gotta say , look at the link Jules put up (i read that one yesterday).. and then you tell me that you want electronic balloting to be used any more?
Elmo commented:
I’m gunna wait.
I’m gunna stay in pocket.
Cheel.
Real cold.
Liquid nitrogen.
Until AFTER the election …..
It’s in the L*rd’s hands now. Seven days. Hang on. Hold on. I think we’re going to make. I do. Really I do. But should they succeed, with any tampering? Git you a fancy fireproof suit. It WILL get mighty f*cking warm.
Not a dream. Nor a desire. Nor even a prediction. Simple … some call it reality. When those who would pretend to lead … have not the consent of the governed.
(2:02/cover/play with fire).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCuKBnSmQ6A
Seven days … we can make it. We can do it. We shall. We must.
Granny commented:
Seems to me people who experience this sort of thing should have the option of a paper ballot.
Mark1957 commented:
It sounds like Reid is the default selection and if the voter is not paying attention, they may think that they already voted that line. The elderly especially may be fooled by this.
Kevin P commented:
Why do these computer glitches ALWAYS help the democrat????
A coinicidence isn’t a coincidence if it happens repeatedly.
Granny commented:
Kevin PNo Gravatar
October 26th, 2010 | 10:43 am | #17
Why do these computer glitches ALWAYS help the democrat????
A coinicidence isn’t a coincidence if it happens repeatedly.
_________
Because it is a Democrat who owns one of the only two companies that make voting machines.
Reno_Dave commented:
Texas Red,
I am who I say I am. Voted for Angle and Sandoval, and walked precincts this past Saturday canvasing for the Republican party. I also attended last week’s Tea Party Express rally near the Atlantis Casino, and was lucky enough to get Sarah Palin to sign my cap.
I’m also a “techie”, who used to write software, so I’m quite aware of user “look and feel”, and the special needs of older tech users, as my dad suffers from “essential tremor”.
gastorgrab commented:
Coup d’état?
The effort is obviously organized. There are reports of election fraud coming in from North Carolina, Colorado, New Mexico…….
Of course, we have to go back to the 2008 election to see the ACORN related “election inconsistencies” in the state of Nevada.
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ACORN Criminally Charged In Nevada
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2009/may/acorn-criminally-charged-nevada
05/05/2009
Criminal charges have been filed against the corrupt taxpayer-funded “community group” best known for its fraudulent voter registration drives and its close ties to President Barack Obama.
Nevada’s attorney general has charged the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), which strives to register low-income citizens, with more than two dozen felonies for operating a fraud-infested voter registration drive in the state during the 2008 presidential campaign.
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Reno_Dave commented:
Mark S.
The screen of the voting machine is fairly large, probably 16″ diagonal, and oriented in the “portrait” position. There are two columns of info displayed, so the circles for the senatorial race are near the centerline of the screen.
The poll workers give each voter a pencil that has erasers on both ends, to make it easier to select the small (roughly 5/16 of an inch) circles.
Like I said, I had no trouble voting, but my 79 year-old dad, who had also pre-marked his sample ballot but has essential tremor, took significantly longer.
Personally, I like the old punch ballots, hanging chads and all, because if you placed your ballot in the machine correctly, you could bang out your vote in just a couple of minutes, then pull the card and check it yourself in less time than the electronic systems require.
I’ve also used the type of ballot where you connect two ends of an arrow, and found those to be quick and simple as well.
texas red commented:
Keep it up el renyo.
me thinks thou dost protest too much.
there’s very little “tech” in these voting machines. I find my oil, air and transmission filters at Walmart on a more complicated device.
scroll, touch screen, scroll, repeat, tremors or not. as easy, or easier than controlling a pen or pencil.
Cargosquid commented:
If its not close, they can’t cheat.
Get Out The Vote.
A_Nonny_Mouse commented:
Just for reference (& cautionary tales) these are interesting articles on potential problems with voting machines:
Trust but Verify: Computer Science and Democracy –
http://www.itjungle.com/tfh/tfh092704-story04.html
The IT Election –
http://www.itjungle.com/tfh/tfh102708-story04.html
And regarding mail-in ballots –
http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/8/80559.html
You know, all-in-all (though I AM a computer “geek”!) I would *MUCH* *PREFER* that everybody physically go to their polling place, cast their vote, and record it with their fingerprint in indelible purple ink. (Yup, just like Iraq.) Then if you show up later at a different polling place with a purple finger — nope, no vote, sorry. I know that, criminal ingenuity being what it is, we’d still wind up with some votes cast by dead people, but at least it wouldn’t be LEGIONS of them…..
kansas commented:
If its not close, they can’t cheat.
Sure they can. And they are.
pm commented:
Hey, Reno Reid, or rather, Dave –
What do you think about the machines always erring for the Dems?
Must bother you just a bit, being a Republican and all. And yet you’ve said nothing.
Only tedious explanations of the way the machines work. Strange. And then again, not.
Illinois Patriot commented:
There is no election so big that ACORN can’t steal it. That’s why we have SENATOR Al Franken, remember? That’s why there is a Dim governor in WA, remember? etc. etc, etc.
Kemo Sabe commented:
Weird how these “glitches” always seem to favor democrats
http://www.newbernsj.com/articles/machine-91656-screen-voter.html
savage24 commented:
And with an idiot like Eric Holder as Atty Gereral, those committing fraud know they will get away with it. Corruption is taking over everything in sight. It will not be long now, the only way to get our country back will be armed rebellion.
Reno_Dave commented:
Texas Red,
It’s not so much the tech as the user interface. Those little “computers” at the auto parts store are designed to do one very simple task — replace a paper application guide — so the user interface is extremely simple. They are also used 365 days per year, and the manufacturer is probably getting constant feedback from the parts company.
While poll watching last week, a couple of people complained to me (after they finished voting) about how they got stuck in a loop, bouncing from one “verify your vote” screen to another.
It wasn’t until they realized that they had to hit the “Print your vote” on-screen button in order to proceed — sometimes by asking for help from the poll worker — that they were able to move on in the process.
A little more thought on the part of the programmers to put clear instructions on the screen could have made this process more intuitive and reduced voter confusion.
Several voters were also confused as to why they couldn’t take the print out of their vote with them. A little info on the screen during the printing process explaining that this printout was to be saved as a hard copy for the Elections Board would have reduced confusion here as well.
gastorgrab commented:
If anytime was a good time to steal an election, this would be it. ‘They’ have complete control of the Justice Department, and have proven that their guy, Eric Holder, is willing to brush aside any challenge that might be harmful to Obama or the Democrats.
They overturned a CONVICTION in the ‘New Black Panthers’ case, for ‘F-sake’!
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aprilnovember811 commented:
For the first time in my life, I feel our elections are rigged. Weren’t the voting machines made in Venezuela? Remember the election in Honduras, they found that the machines were rigged for the marxist, that Obama and Clinton supported? I put nothing past this crime syndicate parading around as United States Congress, and an impostor president.
pm commented:
Now, Dave, I’m going to feel slighted…
If you won’t answer my first question, how about this one:
What do you love most about Sarah?
It had to have been so exciting to have her sign your cap! To be so close to her. Do tell us how it is that she inspires you.
nadadhimmi commented:
With “modern, electronic voting”, Obama may NEVER loose an election. 70 to 80% Democrat may not be out of line in some locales, even though polls show the opposite. I DEMAND PAPER BALLOTS THAT CAN BE HELD IN HAND AND ACTUALLY COUNTED.
me commented:
So wait…
FIVE people rested their hands wrong?
(or is it 1,005)?
ha!
The secretary of state project will be of major investigations I predict.
VOTE, watch and video them!
Reno_Dave commented:
PM,
I’m not immediately suspecting fraud because in the two four-hour sessions of poll watching at my location in Reno, nobody has complained to me that their vote wasn’t properly recorded, i.e., the on-screen final tabulation of their vote and the printed record didn’t agree. And no one has complained of the possible problem reported in Boulder City.
I’ve also talked with the person who covered the morning sessions before I arrived, and she said she saw the same problems that I did: some minor user confusion caused by getting stuck in a loop between the “review” and “final vote screens”.
At the GOTV event at the Washoe County Republican Party HQ this past Saturday, I asked if there had been any problems observed, and nothing serious was reported.
Therefore, when I hear stories like this, I tend to suspect user error, until evidence proves otherwise.
BTW, since Sharron is listed first on the ballot, her name is at the top of the screen. It’s not a place where you might accidentally rest your hand while holding your ballot near the screen. Reid’s name, however, is near the middle of the screen, so it’s at least possible that it could be accidentally selected.
I’ll be poll watching on two afternoons later this week, so I’ll keep a special lookout for anyone reporting this kind of problem.
Finally, the Republican party has lawyers in Nevada who are specifically tasked to look into problems like those observed in BC. I’ve met the two assigned to Washoe County, and they seem pretty sharp, so I assume their counterparts in Southern Nevada are just as good.
gastorgrab commented:
It turns out that some of the same people involved in the ACORN voter registration scam in Nevada, 2008.
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ACORN’s October Surprise – Human Events
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=39568
texas red commented:
“Those little “computers” at the auto parts store are designed to do one very simple task — replace a paper application guide — so the user interface is extremely simple.”
And those “voting machines” are designed to do one thing only also. Namely register a voter’s choice from two or more names preprogrammed into the voting machines that are networked to a master machine which is tallying all of the votes. It’s not rocket science to vote using these machines.
gastorgrab commented:
Oops! Let me finish that sentence.
“It turns out that some of the same people involved in the ACORN voter registration scam in Nevada, 2008, are back to work at their old jobs.”
bg commented:
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hearing via Rush they voted for Angle, but the screen showed they voted for Harry Reid.. he says the same thing (different candidates of course) is occurring in South Carolina..
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Georg Felis commented:
Gee, its nice that modern technology has provided us a voting method even *less* reliable than punch-card ballots.
CODE RED commented:
VOTING MACHINES CAN BE MANIPULATED IF THE EPROM IS REMOVED AND REPLACED BY ANOTHER EPROM THAT IS REPROGRAMMED. IT IS VERY EASY TO REMOVE AND REPROGRAM A EPROM
daryl commented:
So, Reno Dave,
Instead of boxers or briefs another question…..
DieBoldt or E-slate? Any preference?
bg commented:
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that, added on to this tells me this election will be viewed as being too much of a “crisis” to bother declaring it null & void until years & years of investigations conclude.. leaving those illegally in p[lace to do as much damage as they can while they can, and by the time the investigations are over, it will be too late for US to fix anyways.. i leave you with visions of what ACORN et al has gotten away with the decades as a prime example of what i’m talking about..
the Dems fraudulent voting tactics have become a outright open secret..
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mmc commented:
Code Red- if what you say is correct-
We need the Feds to grab the EPROM from these suspicious machines and check them out this could be the hard/physical evidence needed for prosecution. Also, who guards these machines at night are they locked up?
UpChuck.Liberals commented:
Shame these people didn’t take pictures of it with their cell phones. Nothing like proof to stir the pot.
Reno_Dave commented:
PM,
Sorry it took a few minutes to get back to you on the last message, as I tend to get a little “wordy”.
I like Sarah Palin because her general opinion of government mirrors mine, i.e., smaller at the federal level with more power at the state level (10th Amendment anyone?)
I like the way libs underestimate her political savvy, IOW IMHO, she’s far sharper than they think.
I like the fact that she comes across as a pretty regular person and has accomplished a lot coming from a small (population-wise) state. Seeing her, and the rise of the TEA Party, caused me to get off my butt and start volunteering my time with the Washoe County Republican Party, beginning in January, 2009. I met Sharron Angle and her husband at that first organizing meeting, BTW.
The ONE critique I have of her is that she can get a little shrill on the stump. She needs a voice coach to bring the pitch down a bit when she’s excited and in front of a crowd.
OTOH, I’ve enjoyed watching her presentation skills improve the more she’s been on Fox News. She’s now structuring her thoughts better and not getting ahead of herself (I sometimes do the same thing myself).
Finally, speaking as a guy, I was thought that she’s more attractive in person, and is more petite than I expected. I’m only 5′ 8″, and though she was wearing heels, she was shorter than me, so I figure she’s about 5′ 5″, and it’s true that the camera adds 10 lbs. To my eye, she looks taller on TV.
Blue Collar Todd commented:
Skynet has become self aware.
http://www.bluecollarphilosophy.com/2010/10/skynet-nevada-voting-machines-become.html
So why would a computer decide to vote for Harry Reid? Simple, they will have the power over our lives once ObamaCare destroys all other options for health care coverage. Scan your ObamaCare ID card and the computer will do some calculation based on Liberals views about utility and decide your life is no longer worth living and your life saving medical procedure will be denied.
Reno_Dave commented:
Texas Red,
The voter machines used in Nevada are not networked together, but use what appear to be PCMCIA memory modules/cards. The cards are removed from the machines every night by the polling place manager and an assistant, and locked away, separate from the voting machines themselves.
At the end of early voting, the cards will be returned to the Registrar, or Sec of State, for tabulation.
Though there may be a chance for fraud at this level, that is why there are the printed copies of the final ballots, in case of memory card corruption.
Reno_Dave commented:
Daryl,
They use the Sequoia machine in Reno, and I assume it’s the same in the rest of the state. I don’t know anything about others you mentioned.
Frankly, as I said before, I prefer either the old, hanging chad punch cards or the type of ballot where you connect two ends of an arrow.
With the punch card, it’s a fairly simple process to:
1) Insert card
2) Punch vote with pin with authority
3) After voting remove and inspect card for problems
4) hand it in, or if there are problems, ask for a new card and make sure the defective one is destroyed.
Same is true with the “arrow” ballots. I always make sure that I’m voting on the proper line and make a strong connecting mark.
I’m far more concerned about those illegal “Mia Familia” registrations than I am about what I perceive as user error.
But if I’m wrong about voter error, and this situation in Boulder City turns out to be some kind of fraud, then I’ll start working within the party apparatus to get rid of the electronic voting machines and go back to paper ballots.
Reno_Dave commented:
Over on National Review’s Battle 10 blog, Elizabeth Crum is reporting on some discrepancies in the voter logs at some early voting places in Clark and Washoe counties.
It appears the problems are being reported by the paid poll workers:
http://www.nationalreview.com/battle10/251067/nevada-gop-alleges-issues-voter-logs-elizabeth-crum
bg commented:
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correction re: #42
North Carolina.. but wherever, i’m sure way too
many more reports of fraud will be forthcoming,
not that they’ll do a dang thing about them.. gah!!
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bg commented:
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Reno_Dave @ 12:00 pm #38
i say never assume, besides, plenty of Reps
collect ‘under the table’ money so to speak..
but hey, you do whatever you want.. me, seeing as how facts are the only thing that speaks louder than money, never mind words, i’ll wait and see how they tally up..
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Wow commented:
Someone mentioned Sequoia..
After losing money for several years, on March 8, 2005, Sequoia was acquired by Smartmatic, a multi-national technology company which had developed advanced election systems, voting machines included
Smartmatic is the company that was owned by the Venezuelan government when it was used for the Referendum… with the outcome being that Chavez won … and Jimmy Carter came out and said that everything was squeaky clean… paving the way for Chavez to continuing in power!!!
Wow commented:
Sorry.. that should say … to continue in power.
Reno_Dave commented:
BG,
Speaking of Reps collecting “under the table money”, what’s really pissing me off are the people that are “Republicans for Reid”.
IMO, those turncoats are either “go along to get along” types who Angle refused to kowtow to during her time in the NV Assembly (like Bill Raggio and Dawn Gibbons) or want something from the federal government that they think will can be obtained from Harry, but will be next-to-impossible to get if Angle is elected.
Mutnodjmet commented:
OBAMA’S APPROVAL NUMBERS OFFICIALLY IN THE 30′S!
John Stanford commented:
You sound like a liberal, Mr. Gateway: “Oh, my electwonik machine isn’t woooorkin! Mr. Bush iz twying to stweal the ewexiun!”
Easy solution: Don’t touch the screen accidentally (like these senior citizens did). Just push for Angle then push vote.
It’s an electronic machine, so have we had everyone who used it say the machine cheated? No, we just had a few people who were making mistakes while using it say so.
pm commented:
Sorry, Dave
Your (#38) – heck of a long – response didn’t answer my question, which was: “What do you think about the machines always erring for the Dems?”
Which really asks: how do you *feeeel* about it? Cuz the rest of are pretty bothered. And suspicious.
Your answer to my second question didn’t do it for me either. Forgive me if you’re just a really odd Republican. But methinks you’re workin’ a bit too hard at it to be real.
So, please, no need to respond to me this time. Spare us all.
Larry Sheldon commented:
I worked with computers for a long time.
The “Votamatic” system is the last “computer-based” system that could be trusted. The scanned paper used here could be almost as good but the number of sheets and the way they are handled is seriously scary.
Yeah, that is the one that The Gore hyjinx in Florida killed.
That is all I can say about computer-based systems. They can not be made secure. There is no way.
They certainly can made more secure. But “more secure” is not “secure”.
And on the age issue–at 71 do you think I am too old to be a poll worker?
ogee commented:
ASK FOR A PAPER BALLOT
CALL AFTER ELECTION AND CHECK TO SEE WHO THEY ENTERED FOR YOUR VOTE CHOICE. IF THEY ALTERED IT THEY MUST BE PROSECUTED.
every vote goes to dem
1-2-3-4 and the fifth goes to Repub if you voted Repub. So for every 5 votes only one goes to Repub no matter if all 5 votes cast were for Repubs. The machines are rigged.
They are trying to close the deal with a 5% lead or close the gap with 5%. That’s how they do it. The machine is programmed to give all votes for Dems except every 5th vote. Check it. Have a poll person demonstrate it 5-10 times for you and see.
Reno_Dave commented:
PM,
Your (#64) — Feelings are irrelevant until I see some proof that this actually happened as stated.
Until proven otherwise, my experience with computers tells me that operator error is the likely cause.
And the fact that this is reported by ONE older woman about ONE voting machine out of the hundreds in use in the ten or so days since early voting began tends to support my theory (she claimed others had the same problem, but only she is quoted).
So you don’t believe I’m legit? Well, that speaks to some paranoia in you.
I didn’t realize there was a checklist I had to follow.
Here’s one for you:
Are you helping the GOP GOTV effort in your area, a member of your local RP Central Committee, AND poll watching? I am.
Did you attend Republican candidate debates during the primary season? I did.
Did you donate money to Sharron Angle and Joe Miller in Alaska? I did.
Have you used the voting machines in use in Nevada? I have.
Will you attend the Republican Victory party at the (I think) Peppermill Hotel in Reno on Nov 2? I will.
If your answers to the above questions are no, you have no standing to contest my bona fides.
Reno_Dave commented:
Larry,
Your #65 — Hell no, you’re not too old to poll watch!
Call your county party HQ (Republican, I hope) and volunteer. They’ll either have you attend a short class on procedure or give you some documentation that describes your duties.
The main thing is to be observant and not interfere in any way with the poll workers. If you see or hear something that is hinky, you’ll just call the party lawyers to attend to the problem.
And BTW, I didn’t mean to disparage older folks when it comes to computers, it’s just a matter of familiarity. I’ve been working with them since 1980 (built a Southwest Technical Products 6800 kit computer) and I just did a “repair reinstall” of XP on my self-built desktop system, but I still can’t figure out how to REALLY use Facebook.
gastorgrab commented:
http://netrightdaily.com/2010/10/the-seiu-harry-reid-and-voting-problems/
Did you know that the SEIU represents the voting machine technicians in Clark County (Las Vegas), Nevada? Is it any surprise, as we noted earlier today, that there was a voting glitch in Clark County, Nevada? The glitch caused Harry Reid’s name to be automatically checked on the ballot before voters had indicated who were they were supporting.
daryl commented:
This doesn’t sound like the way to level a playing field somehow.
Mrs. Angle, Nevada poll watchers, and judges should take note if it’s not too late already.
The SEIU, Harry Reid, And Voting Problems | NetRight Daily
http://netrightdaily.com/2010/10/the-seiu-harry-reid-and-voting-problems/
daryl commented:
Sorry Gastorgrab
Saw this before I saw your post.
pm commented:
Do I dare? One last comment for Reno Dave:
Oh, but there is one thing for sure. That is, if you consider my question rather than how you want to (mis)read it in order to redirect the conversation: the machines are “…always erring for the Dems.”
You choose not to address that fact.
This woman, her husband and a number of others all experienced the same error. Now, really Dave, it’s a bit hypocritical that you won’t take this woman’s word for it, but you’ll get all hissy if I don’t take your word to be truth…
And then there’s North Carolina where only one out of the five votes cast was correctly attributed to the Republican. And guess who got the other four?!
Funny thing, those machines.
You’ll have to forgive me for taking so long to get back to you, but my computer has been freezing up the last few days – the screen won’t roll, it goes blank and won’t respond, etc. – especially at this website.
But, fear not, I’m not getting all paranoid about it. I’m going to turn it off and let it rest a while.
daryl commented:
They’re doing their damnedest nationwide,
to steal the election, or so it would seem.
» Incident Reports Alleged Voter Fraud in Houston, Texas – Big Government
http://biggovernment.com/driehl/2010/10/26/incident-reports-alleged-voter-fraud-in-houston-texas/
daryl commented:
Loaded,Locked, and Voted.
O’Keefe video appears to show New Jersey union official describing voter fraud | The Daily Caller – Breaking News, Opinion, Research, and Entertainment
http://dailycaller.com/2010/10/26/o'keefe-video-appears-to-show-new-jersey-union-official-describing-voter-fraud/
Valerie commented:
Maryland used to have a perfect voting system. The voter would use a big, black marker to complete an arrow pointing toward a candidate’s name.
The ballot would be fed into a scanner, which would spit it back immediately if there were a problem. Otherwise, it would record the vote.
The votes were tallied and the election completed within 3 hours of the polls closing.
They had a contested election and were able to audit the vote with little trouble, and very, very few contested ballots or dead people.
I’ve voted with several different kinds of machines, including the punch cards. This was the best, and they replaced it with the touch-screens at a cost of 90M, and found out the machines were not auditable.
pm commented:
UPDATE: Check this out:
http://weazelzippers.us/
Guess who Clark County has hired for its Voting Machine Techs? They’re all SEIU members!!
Now wonder what our Reno Dave has to say about that…
gastorgrab commented:
@ daryl
I wasn’t first either. No need to apologize to me.
What’s important is that everyone has a chance to see the information. When in doubt, post it anyway!
Sunshine is a powerful disinfectant!
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Reno_Dave commented:
PM
Your #74,
I’ve been thinking about your question about “always erring for the Dems” and I can understand your concern as to why I haven’t answered it directly.
I guess that’s because I was trying to look at the big picture, i.e., one machine in one small town in Clark Cty against no similar problems reported in the rest of Nevada, and I was curious to see if the Clark County GOP would issue a statement on their site that would provide a “post mortem” as to whether the problem existed, and if so, was it systemic or isolated to one machine.
And then a thought hit me about that specificity of location and machine, along with the fact that the problem appeared a few days after the start of early voting:
What if the type of touch screen used on the voting machine could be deformed in a specific spot that would result in that spot being “selected” if there was a vote selection circle under that location?
If that was the case, then any Dem voter (not only a poll worker or SEIU union member) with evil intent could have, in the course of voting for Reid, deliberately damage the screen at the location of the Reid vote bubble.
The damage could be small and nearly undetectable without magnification, but could effect subsequent voting.
The cheapest type of touch screen is the “resistive” type, where two layers on the surface of the screen come together when pushed, and the computer calculates the location coordinates.
Since this type of screen can work using a non-conductive pointer like a double-eraser pencil (like those used at my polling place) I suspect that the voting systems used in Reno use this type of screen and not the “capacitive” and “surface acoustic wave” type.
See here for more info:
http://computer.howstuffworks.com/question716.htm
This “screen damage” scenario would address my problem with the limited nature of the alleged tampering AND explain why the error only helped the Dems.
The only problem I can see with this theory is that I’m not sure if damage to one spot on the screen would prevent the touch screen from working properly if touched anywhere else.
NitroPuppy commented:
And where’s Mitch McConnell and the rest of the Republican leadership on this? I get the feeling that the Democrats could cheat countrywide in a blatant manner, in numerous ways, and RINO McConnell and the rest of Country Club (R)’s would make a statement like “We’re disappointed that some unnamed persons might tamper with the election process, in some unknown way. We kindly ask the Obama administration and Attorney general Eric Holder to look into the matter,…er …..uhm……when they have time.” I mean the Dems got away with it last time, The GOP did nothing. Now Democrats are able to quadruple their efforts this time. Especially with all those “Stimulus” dollars now being spent to steal a Democrat win.
But I agree with others, if it happens and Dems steal this election, it will ignite a Revolution. There will be no place for them to hide.
Pepeboy1 commented:
This administration and the Democrats hate America and the voter fraud and rigged voting machines are right out of the Karl Marx playbook for counting the ballots. It’s too late America. You are now living in a dictatorship. When our votes cannot change the country, it’s over. If we start a revolution, we will be killed by this government and the likes of Joy Behar & her ilk will say it is in the name of freedom from extremists. The one good thing in the end, they will be cast into hell where they belong and can no longer cause the good people misery.