Paki Minister Wants Obama to Offer Eid Prayers at Ground Zero & Declare Himself Caliph of All Muslims
Posted by Jim Hoft on Sunday, September 5, 2010, 1:04 PM
This probably won’t help dispel any of those “Obama is Muslim” rumors…
A Pakistani minister wants Obama to offer Eid Prayers at Ground Zero and declare himself the new Caliph of the Muslim World.
News.IN reported, via ROP:
A Pakistani minister wants US President Barack Obama to offer Eid prayers at Ground Zero in New York and become the “Amir-ul-Momineen” or Caliph of Muslims.
Minister of State for Industries Ayatullah Durrani, who belongs to the ruling Pakistan People”s Party, said the upcoming Eid-ul-Fitr festival, expected to be observed on September 11, would be a “golden opportunity” for Obama to offer Eid prayers and declare himself the leader of all Muslims.
“In this way, all the problems of the Muslim world would be solved,” Durrani told The Nation newspaper.Durrani, a former member of the Pakistan Ideological Council, contended that the Muslim world is in “dire need” of a Caliph and occupying this distinguished slot would provide Obama “exemplary titles” like “Mullah Barack Hussain Obama” or “Allama Obama”.
He said: “The time is approaching fast. Barack Hussain Obama must act now. This is a golden opportunity, Muslims badly need it.”
Obama”s elevation to the Islamic Caliphate would be the “key to success, he claimed but did not offer any explanation for his remarks.
That’s ridiculous.
We all know Obama is a Christian who attended a respectable church for years.
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Granny commented:
According to his press secretary, TheWon is not only a Christian, he is a committed mainstream Christian (click for video)
I guess nobody bothered to tell the muslim world, now, did they?
Granny commented:
Somehow messed up the link – the video is here -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHZLtcj8PDM
Andreas K. commented:
Well, if he’s a Christian he simply can’t get that position. Yes, it’s that simple. As Christian he’s an infidel and an infidel can’t be equal to a mohammedan (so says sharia law) or, even worse, superior.
The only way this is possible is if Obama is a mohammedan. Period.
chillguy33 commented:
Obama is a Marxist with no religion.
He is certainly an apostate of Islam, however.
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VinceP1974 commented:
The next Caliph of the Ummah is the prophecized Mahdi (the shiities also regard him as 12th Imam)
The Mahdi is the Bible’s Antichrist
Lan Astaslem commented:
What a capital suggestion! Finally, we can end the “far-right smears,” and “neo-con slurs” about our boy president being a muslim once and for all. If he bravely accepts his destiny, then we will know the truth, and the truth will set us free. However, if he declines, then he’s officially an apostate….and we all know what the “religion of peace” demands be done to apostates….problem solved! Looks like a win win to me.
katablog.com commented:
Wow, well it appears that more than 30% of Americans think he’s muslim. Why would the Muslim minister ask if he thought there was no chance?
Khan Krum commented:
I thought he already did this with his little trip to Cairo last year? Why does he want him to do it again?
JPL17 commented:
Can’t wait to see how the Left blames this one on Rush Limbaugh.
Taxpayer1234 commented:
I bet there are a bunch of mullahs whose noses would be a bit out of joint that a lowly black Christian American becomes the religious leader of Muslims.
debrobeaudean commented:
Obama is finally having another press conference on September 10th… the man will not utter the world terrorism,, so why will he have a press conference? I wonder if he is going to tell us that he has been honored to be aksed to lead the muslim prayer from Ground Zero and it would be too rude to pass up that chance for interfaith outreach…. If only the MSM would report the TRUTH about this deceitful stealth jihadist named Obama,,,
God help America.
squeaky commented:
[RETURN TO BASIC VALUES
Islam Means the End of Religious Freedom
by Daniel Greenfield on August 15th, 2010]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2572973/posts
http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/JR/Future/index.htm
kansas commented:
Obama is a committed Christian who prays five times a day………oh wait.
ogee commented:
He probably volunteered to do it.
He is a self proclaimed Muslim. He is trying to issue sharia law before he gets kicked out.
Let him do it. This will be the death of his career. His contituents are not at all happy with him and will not vote for him again.
bg commented:
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“the most transparent president”
oh yes, and at this point it would make
absolutely no sense to deny that fact..
“just words”
not at all, well, as far as the intended
audience is concerned at any rate..
need i ask how stupid we are??
cause we won’t believe it..
and neither will the MSM et al..
even if they did, they’re too freakin’
chicken fried scared to say anything..
aah, head choppin’ time will be arriving
a lot sooner than i had expected.. *sigh*
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ogee commented:
OT-Wondering if you can write and update on the land grab beginning with Maine and all the way to the Native Americans land that obama is doing? Pristine land will now be under Gov control for mining and other similiar reasons.
pm commented:
Every time the Dems launch their clucking disapproval of Americans (whom they eagerly claim to be Republicans and Tea Partiers) who say BO is a Muslim — I’ve wished someone would point out that most Muslims think he’s one too.
Please, Dems, don’t hold back. Shout your disdain for the views of the majority of the Muslim world.
Silence? Aaaww…imagine that..
Daryl Herbert commented:
Respectfully, the term “Paki” is a slur, basically equivalent to “kike” or “wop.” Most Americans don’t know that.
Some Indian papers use the term “Pak” as shorthand for Pakistan or Pakistanis, and as far as I know it’s not considered derogatory.
wanumba commented:
I remember that honkin’ chunk of bling-bling gold chain.
Obama was unseemingly impressed by it. Wonder how finely tuned his sensitivity meter is to the fact that those ‘Heads of State’ gifts aren’t HIS, but belong to the United States.
Joanne commented:
I wonder if Obama will be able to resist – ruler of a billion+ pedophile worshippers may be just too much for him to pass up.
wanumba commented:
That pix also reminds us of how much the Saudis use gold in all their decorating … anyone peer at the woven designs in Obama’s new gold curtained Oval Office?
bg commented:
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listen closely @ the 4:07 mark..
i’m still waiting for someone to please inform me as to whether
or not Muslims fulfill Zakat is any business of a US President??
how about Constitutional?? /sarc/
and i ask te following question with utmost sincerity..
why is Obama still in our White House Oval
Office pretending to be president of the US??
we have our brave young soldiers dying
every day to keep our enemies at bay..
while Barack Hussein Obama not only invites them into our parlor, but
tells US we are equal to the evil spider, and they are but innocent flies..
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John Stanford commented:
Wait, what does this have to do with the untrue claim that Obama is a Muslim?
So, someone else in Pakistan might think Obama is a Muslim. Okay, the question isn’t what someone in Pakistan thinks.
Norman commented:
Guess they missed Spengler’s piece about the chosen one
http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/spengler/2010/08/19/president-obama-is-not-even-a-muslim/
Joanne commented:
The question is why would this guy ask Obama to do this if he didn’t think he was a muslim – because he thinks he is a muslim. And why does this guy think it would solve all the problems of the muslim world – this guys thinks America is to blame for all the problems of muslims…no wonder they hate America. A golden opportunity? – You mean Obama is in a position to claim this position….like we all didn’t know a muslim has taken over America from within….you’d have to be blind to not have noticed. Take a look at Kenya – Sharia law, here they come…..courtesy of Obama’s cousin, Odinga, the self-proclaimed Christian/liar/muslim that Obama supported.
bg commented:
just a sample:
“I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth.”
‘We are God’s partners in matters of life and death’
‘my individual salvation is not gonna come about
without a collective salvation for the country’ …
UCC member Sen. Barack Obama discusses faith and politics
["I believe that democracy demands that the religiously motivated translate their concerns into universal values," Obama said. "Social justice and national security are both universal values, values that may originate for some in their religious beliefs, but are shared by us all."]
”I am certain nothing has done so much to destroy the juridical safeguards of individual freedom as the striving after the mirage of social justice.”
“I have come to feel strongly that the greatest service I can still render to my fellow men would be that I could make the speakers and writers among them thoroughly ashamed ever again to employ the term ’social justice’.”
~Friedrich A. von Hayek
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Lauren commented:
Well, Obama has a history of never passing up a title or a chance at glorification. Remember they gave him the Nobel prize (after having cheapened it by giving it to Al Gore also).
SM-Illinois commented:
“Mainstream Christian” like Rev Wright’s church where Barry and Moochelle attended for over 20 years? I’ve been a “mainstream Christian” for almost 63 years—-and I’ve attended a lot of church services and I don’t recall ever seeing or hearing about anyone like good old Rev Wright.
james peterson commented:
Daryl Herbert
“Paki” , well ok I get it as a potato”e” picker from So Dakota..
well, Daryl, is it PaskIStan or POK-E-Stan as # 44 says it..enlighten us, please
Always On Watch commented:
BHO won’t do it. He’s not that, um, honest.
bg commented:
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re: bg #26
Christians to Pray as White House Observes Ramadan
[“Since assuming office in January, President Obama has not only regularly passed up opportunities to affirm and celebrate America’s Judeo Christian heritage, but at times, he’s appeared to go out of his way to suggest the opposite is true,” said Shirley Dobson, chairman of the National Day of Prayer Task Force.
“In light of these recent events, the president’s decision to carry on the tradition of hosting a White House dinner to celebrate the Muslim holy season of Ramadan is curious. Our disappointment, however, is not with
the President’s decision to host such a celebration. Quite the contrary.
It’s simply unfortunate that he didn’t choose to extend the same level of courtesy and recognition this past May to the millions of supporters and organizers of the National Day of Prayer.”
The Rev. Johnny Hunter, an African-American pro-life leader who was arrested on the National Day of Prayer while praying outside the White House, said that by hosting the Ramadan observance President Obama
“is distinctly placing Islam above Christianity.”
"He's stated before the entire world that we're not a Christian nation,"
added the founder of L.E.A.R.N. Inc. "By him turning his back on Christians on a day when we're to pray to God, then turn around and make such a flamboyant move toward Islam, it tells me that it's not America that's not Christian, it's the president that's not Christian."]
one need not be a Christian to recognize &
understand the reality of the facts stated..
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bg commented:
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re: bg #31
Obama celebrates Ramadan, replaces
National Day of Prayer with Islamic Rites
["Tonight's iftar is a ritual that is also being carried out this Ramadan at kitchen tables and mosques in all 50 states. Islam, as we know, is part of America. And like the broader American citizenry, the American Muslim community is one of extraordinary dynamism and diversity -- with families that stretch back generations and more recent immigrants; with Muslims of countless races and ethnicities, and with roots in every corner of the world.
"Indeed, the contribution of Muslims to the United States are too long
to catalog because Muslims are so interwoven into the fabric of our communities and our country."]
September 25, 2009 Islamic Day of Prayer at the White House
Obama cancelled 2010 White House National Day of Prayer ceremony
[Obama cancelled 2010 White House National Day of Prayer ceremony. The National Day of Prayer has historically been the first Thursday in May, since Harry S. Truman put it into effect in 1952, but wasn’t official until the days of Ronald Reagan.]
Obama Celebrates Ramadan, Calls Islam “Great Religion”
National Day of Prayer Is Unconstitutional
Obama agrees..
[Obama cancelled 2010 White House National Day of Prayer ceremony. The National Day of Prayer has historically been the first Thursday in May, since Harry S. Truman put it into effect in 1952, but wasn’t official until the days of Ronald Reagan.
For eight years, the White House held a celebration on the National Day of Prayer, and last year Obama cancelled the celebration, and the ceremony
has been canceled for 2010. In 2009, CNN reported that Obama was toning down the National Day of Prayer by canceling the White House ceremony, but that the official day was not canceled.
The National Day of Prayer was created to remind people to pray for family, friends, the country, etc. It wasn’t created for a specific religion, but for anyone who wanted to participate.]
oh wait..
[One of those values is the freedom to practice your religion -- a
right that is enshrined in the 1st Amendment of the Constitution.]
again, just a sample of much more..
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Paolo (Italy) commented:
Has this rally in Washington D.C. been organized by your newly declared Caliph?
I see that the speaker is Associated English Professor at Lincoln University, PA…
Congratulations!
down with dems commented:
“…my Muslim faith…”
-Barack Hussein Obama
Chippy commented:
Obama never really thinks of himself as president. That’s why he abolished, “Hail to the Chief”. Also, the new rug in his office has the seal of the Vice President. Lol! The Presidential seal is dark blue. This crowd is always screwing something up.
Winefred commented:
Can we avoid using that word “Paki” in an attempt to avoid appearing like a cheesy tabloid among newsblogs? It’s a vulgarity equivalent to “Spic” or “Polack”, which you probably wouldn’t use when trying to make a serious report. Just a thought.
chilipalmer commented:
It’s generally accepted among Muslims that children born of a Muslim become Muslims, and I’ve read it’s stated in Sharia law. Qaddafi is on tape saying Obama is born of a Muslim and is a Muslim, there are many other examples. If the left wants to waste time denying that, then look at Obama’s behavior.
Militant Conservative commented:
Hmmmm, Imam Hoover Obama cominig outta the closet for the muzterd community. I seem to remember a book or two with this not boading well.
powder is dry.
bg commented:
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Paolo (Italy) @ 3:10 pm #33
Islamists are always re-writing history (it’s all in the symbolism.. like
Obama’s replacement of everything USA, including the OO carpet, &
the Cordoba 9/11 Victory Mosque)..
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Gini commented:
“We all know Obama is a Christian who attended a respectable church for years.”
No comment can top this sentence.
Mrgoodwench commented:
Daryl Herbert
September 5th, 2010 | 2:27 pm | #18
Respectfully, the term “Paki” is a slur, basically equivalent to “kike” or “wop.” Most Americans don’t know that.
Some Indian papers use the term “Pak” as shorthand for Pakistan or Pakistanis, and as far as I know it’s not considered derogatory.
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“Pak” means ” pure” or ” sacred”
There is absolutely no reason to call them
” pak” . There is nothing ” pak” about them.
As for Indians calling them ” pak” , look how pakis return the goodwill from Indians !!!
If pakis are so sensitive to the term pakis, they should themselves stop using the terms they use for Hindus, Jews and Christains
bg commented:
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re: the “Paki” posters..
what, worried we might offend the Minister
who is declaring Obama “Caliph” or what??
oh yeah..
WHILE PRAYING AT GROUND ZERO ON MUSLIM EID..
so much for “Islamic sensitivity”..
for anyone who is not awake yet, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet!!
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Mrgoodwench commented:
chilipalmer
September 5th, 2010 | 3:32 pm | #37
It’s generally accepted among Muslims that children born of a Muslim become Muslims, and I’ve read it’s stated in Sharia law. Qaddafi is on tape saying Obama is born of a Muslim and is a Muslim, there are many other examples. If the left wants to waste time denying that, then look at Obama’s behavior.
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Every muslim who marries a non-muslim is supposed to convert the spouse to islam , for the marriage to be legitimate in the eyes of sharia.
Obama’s mama was married to 2 different muslims, and went to their homelands to join their families .
She must have converted to islam.
There is no way around it , either in Kenya or in Indonesia.
But did she convert back to Christianity ?
Did Obama renounce islam , ever?
If not, then Obama was born of 2 muslim parents.
Lets take it from there.
Lauren commented:
I like what Ann Coulter had to say: “The only evidence for Obama’s Christianity is that he faithfully attended the Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ for 20 years.
Yes, the guy bellowing “God damn America!” is the one vouching for Obama’s Christianity. That’s like saying you got sober with the help of your A.A. sponsor Lindsay Lohan.
It is a fact that any non-retarded person (thank you, Rahm Emanuel!) sitting in the Rev. Wright’s church for 20 minutes, much less 20 years, does not believe in God. Even stepping inside Wright’s church for a moment to get out of the rain is borderline racist.”
Stanley commented:
Obama, is not the perfect mirror.
bg commented:
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re: bg #40 & #43
IslaMarxism
ie: A MARRIAGE MADE IN ALLAH’S SOCIALIST PARADISE
[Multiculturalism and political correctness are two of the fundamental pseudo-intellectual, quasi-religious tenets that have been widely disseminated by intellectuals unable to abandon socialism even after its crushing failures in the 20th century. Along with a third component, radical environmentalism, they make up three key foundations of leftist dogma that have been slowly, but relentlessly, absorbed at all levels of Western culture in the last decade or so--but primarily since the end of the Cold War.
All three have been incorporated into most K-12 curricula as well as the academic curricula in Western university and colleges. In combination,
they are the toxic by-products of postmodern relativism.
The neo-Marxist fascists who are leading the charge in the academic world have been at the forefront of attempts to rewrite most of history and undo thousands of years of Western cultural advancement.
And, as Western culture has become completely saturated with this toxic brew, any attempt to question the validity of the neo-Marxists' premises; or to contest their value is met with hysterical accusations of racism, sexism, homophobia, Islamophobia, imperialism, bigotry, or--worse of all --intolerance or insensitivity or hypocrisy.
The self-righteousness of the neo-Marxist fascists is such that they strongly believe they are justified (even in their "antiwar" personas) to violently attack and/or intimidate any who disagree with them.
It just so happens, that these tenets (multiculturalism, political correctness, and radical environmentalism) represent three of the four pillars that are the foundation of an evolving epistemological, ethical and political strategy that the socialist remnants in the world have conceptualized and implemented to prevent their ideology from entering the dustbin of history.]
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Kato commented:
Finally people understand that Muslim hidder Obama has aspirations of kingship to radical mulism doctrine.
down with dems commented:
Chippy
September 5th, 2010 | 3:26 pm | #35
Obama never really thinks of himself as president. That’s why he abolished, “Hail to the Chief”. Also, the new rug in his office has the seal of the Vice President. Lol! The Presidential seal is dark blue. This crowd is always screwing something up.
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Jim, try to verify this color issue (funny, since Obama apparently wants his seal to be white). When googling “vice presidential seal” and “presidential seal” it does appear that the circle behind the eagle on the Presidential seal is BLUE — very unlike the WHITE circle behind the eagle on Obama’s new rug which would be the color of the Vice Presidential seal.
Is it just “unprecedented”, or is it just plain incorrect???
Good catch, Chippy. Haven’t seen that error pointed out in any of the articles about the erroneous quote attribution on the rug. I sure hope it’s a second error!
bg commented:
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chilipalmer @ 3:32 pm #37
i’d like to mention two things..
Taqiyyah
Indonesians see Obama .. as a crusader for the cause of Islam.
eh, make that three (there’s so many)..
“Our confrontation with America used to be like confronting a fortress
from outside. Today we have found an opening to enter the fortress and
to confront it from within.”
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down with dems commented:
bg
September 5th, 2010 | 4:24 pm | #50
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ditto on the Taqiyyah … people don’t seem to grasp that lying / deceit / hiding one’s faith / dissimilation / calculated deception / is ENCOURAGED
“In Islam, the practice of concealing one’s belief and foregoing ordinary religious duties ” -eb.com
Taqiyyah
Taqiyyah
Taqiyyah
Taqiyyah
Taqiyyah
Taqiyyah
learn it, folks
donh commented:
Allama MohamObama has already given his blessing to the Ground Zero mosque. Next he will order a pyramid built at the center of the pentagon honoring Mohammed Atta and all the 911 terrorist names etched in stone.
jainphx commented:
Either Obama is a LIAR ( I think thats a given ) or he’s a muslim! He has more than once proclaimed himself a muslim. Who are we to believe, wow I know thats a hard one.
bg commented:
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donh @ 4:57 pm #53
they’re already slated to have their own Islamist
(in the name of Muslims) 9/11 martyrdom room..
bg #25/26/27
i will also post them in here..
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bg commented:
bg
August 20th, 2010 | 6:40 pm | #25
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btw re: ugh @ 1:32 pm #17
Daisy Khan is the wife of Imam Rauf..
[The Imam behind the controversial mosque at Ground Zero dreams of Islamizing United States, as exposed in his book, which has two titles:
one in English, and one in Arabic.
In the U.S., his book is called, 'What's Right
with America Is What's right with Islam."
The same book, published in Arabic, bears the title, "The Call from the WTC Rubble: Islamic Da'wah {Proseletism} from the Heart of America Post-9/11."
Here we get exactly the Imam, who is assigned
to "spread Islam right from the WTC rubble."]
Salah Uddin Shoaib Choudhury
Barack Obama Would Let Shoaib Choudhury Die
Earth to Obama et al Islamists:
“WE SHALL NEVER FORGET”
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bg commented:
bg
August 20th, 2010 | 6:48 pm | #26
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re: bg #25
[According to information, a scholar and charity head appointed to President Obama's White House Fellowships Commission is closely tied to the Muslim leaders behind this proposed controversial Islamic cultural center to be built near the site of the Sept. 11 attacks. The White House fellow, Vartan Gregorian, is president of Carnegie Corp. of New York.
Gregorian also serves on the board of the Sept. 11 Memorial and Museum. The museum is reportedly working with the American Society for Muslim Advancement, whose leaders are behind the mosque, to ensure the future museum will represent the voices of American Muslims.
"[The Sept. 11 museum will represent the] voices of American Muslims in particular, and it will honor members of other communities who came together in support and collaboration with the Muslim community on September 11 and its aftermath,” stated Daisy Khan, wife of the founder of the society and chairman of the of the Cordoba Initiative, Imam Faidal Abdul Rauf Khan, and executive director of the society.
The future Sept. 11 museum’s oral historian, Jenny Pachucki, is collaborating with the society to ensure the perspective of American
Muslims is woven into the overall experience of the museum, according
to the museum’s blog.]
who’s Museum is it anyway?? what is wrong with US.. *sigh*
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bg commented:
bg
August 20th, 2010 | 7:25 pm | #27
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[The dissenter
Diane Horning will neither visit nor contribute to the
museum, which she describes as too much, too soon.
"It lacks the perspective of history," she says. "The museum should have been done years from now, with just a simple memorial for now. We never asked for something this big."
She worries that to attract visitors the museum will sensationalize 9/11 — go for what she calls "the wow factor" — and focus less on the victims than "the men who killed my son." Matt Horning, a database administrator for Marsh & McLennan, died in the north tower.
His mother complains that while the hijackers' faces and histories will be on permanent display "in a room of their own," visitors who want to learn about their victims will have to call up files at a computer station. Museum officials say, "We must tell the true story," she says. "My son is the true story."
She also says that while 9/11 families always expected that unidentified human remains would return to Ground Zero, they never thought they'd
be "part of a museum experience." She'd like to see the remains interred
in a "tomb of the unknowns" until advances in DNA science allow their identification.
That said, she wishes the museum well and expects most of the 9/11 families to accept and even embrace it: "They feel this is better than nothing. People desperately want a place to honor the victims and connect with their feelings. People so desperately want something there."]
if they truly feel like settling, then they get what
they deserve, but what about the rest of US??
imo, if the rest of US stand by & allow them (Islamists) to whittle down the
defenses of the vulnerable 9/11 victims families to get what they (Islamists) want, then we deserve what we get too..
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Granny commented:
down with dems, #51
About that Seal on the lying rug.
The design of the Presidential Seal and Flag is encoded in law, and yes, the background is supposed to be blue.
Here is the executive order -
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_10860
Here is more on the Presidential Seal -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_of_the_President_of_the_United_States
Information on the Vice Presidential Seal explains how the two differ -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_of_the_Vice_President_of_the_United_States
bg commented:
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9/11
9/11 Mosque
9/11 Hole in the Ground
SHAME ON US..
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bg commented:
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“I am a Muslim”
like i have been saying going on 4 years now..
whether Obama is a Muslim or not doesn’t matter..
FACT IS: Obama has been & is aiding & abetting our self declared sworn
enemy (Islamists), right under our noses :aka: in plain sight, regardless..
more here..
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squeaky commented:
bg
September 5th, 2010 | 5:26 pm | #60
mark steyn was ranting about the hole in the ground with regards to the gz mosque. imagine a 13/15 floor whatever towering over the hole that once was a symbol of America. i know they say it will be a cultural center but who says they won’t exert their newly felt power.
down with dems commented:
Granny
September 5th, 2010 | 5:20 pm | #59
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good research — now we know the rug is the wrong color and the quote was misattributed
leave it to Obama to put matching the rug to his color scheme ahead of correctness and legality
Granny commented:
down with dems – it isn’t even that the rug is the wrong color – the Seal is in fact NOT the seal and it is ILLEGAL. The parameters of the thing is set by law. Those stars are supposed to be white, not navy blue.
Fine waste of money – that rug must have cost thousands upon thousands of dollars.
raugaj commented:
The issue that I haven’t seen raised yet is how this would be received by the left. Most would proclaim it brave and wise and few would be interested in the many lies that acceptance would expose. I have several friends that would defend him if he went on a shooting spree in an orphanage.
squeaky commented:
“leave it to Obama to put matching the rug to his color scheme ahead of correctness and legality”. obama hasn’t a shred of decorum and no interest in detail.
de·co·rum /dɪˈkɔrəm, -ˈkoʊr-/ Show Spelled
[dih-kawr-uhm, -kohr-] –noun
1. dignified propriety of behavior, speech, dress, etc.
2. the quality or state of being decorous; orderliness; regularity.
3. Usually, decorums. an observance or requirement of polite society.
DocScience commented:
Don’t go giving the one any ideas.
We should not feed his ego.
Should it burst, much of the solar system could be endangered.
Blue Collar Todd commented:
Makes you wonder about Obama’s 57 state mistake. There are 57 Islamic states.
http://www.bluecollarphilosophy.com/2010/02/obama-bows-to-57-muslim-nations-of-ioc.html
bg commented:
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squeaky @ 5:55 pm #62
please read..
[Most US mosques, including many in Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx are funded directly or indirectly by Saudi Arabia the country to which 15 of the 19 hijackers who bombed the World Trade Center belonged. The UAE, Qatar and Iran are other major sponsors across the USA.
The source of money matters: a significant part of the hundreds of mosques being built and already erected in this country double up as cultural Islamic centers for distributing literature– Islamist propaganda in fact—from Bay Ridge Brooklyn to Detroit, and for schooling growing Muslim minorities. They house Imams of unknown origin and education, many of whom do not speak a word in English but preach in Arabic and Urdu — radical messages, it often turns out.
While Imam Faisal is gradually moving ahead with his master plan of constructing the Mecca of Islam in NYC, unknown patrons are continuing
to put huge amount of cash in gradually having a strong Islamist grip over world media.
[..]
According to information, Muslim “‘entrepreneurs” are gradually buying shares in several news outlets in UK with money received from unknown sources. Hundreds of millions of dollars are flowing into such projects, with the ultimate goal of virtually waging Islamic Jihad over global media.
[..]
The report added that on one program, women were told that they should not leave their homes without their husband’s consent, and should always have a male escort. Another suggested that women who used perfume were prostitutes. Concerns were also raised in the report over a religious advice program in which viewers were told that “the majority of people in hell will be women” because they are the cause of “calamities, hardship and suffering” in Western society.
The channel was accused of promoting the speeches of Anwar al Awlaki, an extremist preacher who has been linked to al Qaeda, and the views of Hizb ut-Tahrir, a fundamentalist organization which the former Prime Minister Tony Blair had tried to ban.
[..]
Head of Al Azhar, Sheikh Mohamed Sayed Tantawi, commenting on this channel, which is funded by a Libyan businessman named Hassan Tatanaki said, “in the Age of Obama we realized it was time to look at new ways to deliver our message.”
[..]
An Islamic television channel named Al Falah TV has been launched by a Malaysian company, World Islamic Television Network. Its chairman, Khairuddin Abu Hassan. said, “This channel will act as a hub for
the collection of television programs from Islamic nations and export the same to Europe, the United States and East Asia.”]
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seven commented:
The implied message is that Arabs are “extremists” and non-Arabs “moderates.” Perhaps it would be more apt to say that the former are today’s “field Negroes” and non-Arabs are being cultivated into the next “house Negroes.” This was an example used by Malcolm X in a 1963 speech, reflecting on the state of African-Americans
Arab Muslims rank far above black Muslims.
kato commented:
I see we have a Kato present. Don’t confuse him or her with this kato, who if nothing else, has better spelling and grammar.
bg commented:
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uck-fay the ug-ray..
it’s the least of our problems, ONE namely being..
“Mullah Barack Hussain Obama” or “Allama Obama”
who is slowly but surely transforming
America into the Ummah States of Allah..
they are not joking people..
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Crazy Moron commented:
This means that Sharia is coming to America.
bg commented:
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seven @ 6:45 pm #71
update on Malcolm..
“For 12 long years I lived within the narrow-minded confines of the ‘straightjacket world’ created by my strong belief that Elijah Muhammad was a messenger direct from God Himself, and my faith in what I now see to be a pseudo-religious philosophy that he preaches…. I shall never rest until I have undone the harm I did to so many well-meaning, innocent Negroes who through my own evangelistic zeal now believe in him even more fanatically and more blindly than I did.”
Malcolm X
btw.. as far as Arabs (Islamic) are concerned,
blacks will always be subservient, go figure..
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bg commented:
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Crazy Moron @ 6:59 pm #74
oh, it’s well on it’s way..
Obama nominee supports Islamic Sharia law in U.S.
Obama’s pro-sharia Legal Advisor Confirmed
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John Stanford commented:
@BG reply, @CrazyMoron reply:
Um, Sharia coming to America?…
Yeah, you might want to check on the percentage of America that is Muslim. Less than 1%. Even IF all of them supported Sharia, it wouldn’t be “on the way.”
KR commented:
Here are photos of previous Oval Office Presidential rugs. Some have light colored backgrounds.
http://hillbuzz.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/screen-shot-2010-08-31-at-3-44-27-pm.png
Ginger commented:
SM #28
I have never heard the minister use God’s name in prayer in the house of worship.
Robert commented:
“those “Obama is Muslim” rumors…”
Rumors?
bg commented:
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John Stanford @ 7:49 pm #77
i don’t mean tomorrow, but it’s much
closer than i would have thought..
i won’t be here when it finally arrives, but if things keep going
the way they have been, and you’re still around, good luck..
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bg commented:
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ps re: bg #81
John Stanford @ 7:49 pm #77
re: [Less than 1%.]
and you got that figure from a
most reliable source no doubt??
“[.] If we want to amend the state of humanity, and live in a global village, because of globalization [.] The fifty million Muslims in Europe will turn
it into a Muslim continent within a few decades. [.]
Muslim Demographics
keep those abortions coming!!
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John Stanford commented:
I can’t comment on europe; I’m only speaking for what America statistically won’t become. Btw china is the best place to go to avoid sharia. They really have a grip on the extremists in xiangjin who staged Muslim riots there but then china actually responded.
Anyway, I saw someone else say that Obama said he was a Muslim… Why are so many ppl lying in the comments? First Obama is a Muslim and now obama says he’s a Muslim…
aprilnovember811 commented:
Oh those kooks in Pakistan. We need to come up with a name for them, sort of like a name like, “birthers.”
Hey, maybe he’s the first Christian to get this honor? Yes, that’s right, I’m sure there’s an explanation.
aprilnovember811 commented:
Alright, who believes Obama is here to committ Jihad from within? I do. We don’t even know who in the heck this guy is. He’s a stealth Jihadist. He’s here to finish off the US from within. And to think our wonderful FBI, CIA, Courts, just let him do it. Aren’t they doing a fine job.
White Polluter commented:
Daryl Herbert
September 5th, 2010 | 2:27 pm | #18
Respectfully, the term “Paki” is a slur, basically equivalent to “kike” or “wop.” Most Americans don’t know that.
—————
Most Americans don’t care.
John Stanford commented:
Re: aprilnovember
I love your comments!
You said, “We don’t even know who this guy is! He’s a stealth jihadist.”
Thanks for the laughs.
You seem to know pretty well who he is if you already know that he’s a “stealth jihadist”.
bigL commented:
Why do all these issues come up now? To wit, Obama is a Muslim, the victory Mosque at GZ, the WH parties at Eid-time, the cleric from Pakistan wanting Obama to come outa da closet and declare himself a caliph (and there by an Islamist?), The Dept Of Treasury teaching Sharia Mortgages.
It is like this is the time to just order Sharia as an alternative Justice Method, knowing that the Congress and Judges and perhaps the USA is too weak to resist.
Like with ObamaNoCare, sharia won’t be repealed. No Squishes will have the guts to repeal either one.
A Believer commented:
Whether or not Obama is muslim isn’t an issue. Like Jews, Muslims are born.
Gibbs says Obama prays every day.
I’m betting that’s true – I’m betting he prays 5 times a day.
bg commented:
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bigL @ 9:51 pm #88
oh, they’ve been coming up all along.. imho, people are finally beginning to see that their doubting Thomas (aka: suicidal denial) ways are leading them to the slaughter.. and Obama’s got his IslaMarxist cohorts so entrenched he could give a bats guano..
par my course, just a sample..
America: A Sharia-Compliant State
[For America to score even higher on the „Islamic‟ or „Shariah Compliance‟ scale, America would need to do two things: invite the voices of all religions to join the dialogue in shaping the nation‟s practical life, and allow religious communities more leeway to judge among themselves according to their own laws”]
(in general: want more info, do some research)
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S. Wolf commented:
‘A new Pew Center poll says nearly one-in-five Americans think Barack Obama is a Muslim. Perhaps that is because of reports like the one blared on the cover of the September 6 edition of the tabloid, The Globe, replete with photos of Mr. Obama in Muslim garb: It found “shocking proof” in a Nile TV interview given earlier this year by the Egyptian Foreign Affairs Minister, Ahmed Aboul Gheit, disclosing that “the American President told me in confidence that he is a Muslim.”
A better explanation is that more Americans are taking note of the accumulating series of statements and actions by the President that display favoritism, or worse, towards Muslims. That would be troubling enough; after all, no chief executive is supposed to support one subset of us over others.
Growing numbers of our countrymen may be on to something else about the Obama presidency, however, that is even more alarming: In instance after instance, Mr. Obama has seemingly bent over backwards to accommodate not just Muslim-Americans, but a deeply problematic organization – the Muslim Brotherhood (or Ikhwan) – that purports to represent their interests here.’
Friend of the Brotherhood?
‘While President Barack Obama was “forcefully” endorsing the Ground Zero Mosque, Michelle Obama was paying homage with her presence to the Great Mosque at Granada, which overlooks what was once Islam’s most important outpost in Europe, the Alhambra palace in Granada.’
Michelle Obama made dusk visit to Great Mosque of Granada during Spanish trip
Zero may soon rule as ‘caliph’ over US with his burkha clad wife by his side.. if only in his aiding and abetting mind.
1389AD commented:
Don’t try to tell me Obama is not a Muslim!
As a Muslim, infanticide of infidel and/or “cracker” babies would not bother him a bit. No surprise there!
sandy commented:
The Muslims have figured out that Obama can be rolled. With Americans openly questioning Obama’s religion they feel its time for him to declare his Muslim Allegence. Wonder if Obama will take his usual stance of playing both sides against the middle and upsetting all parties.
Militant Conservative commented:
I’M with BG. I DON’T CARE IF HE IS A MUSLIM.
Everything the terd in the punchbowl stands for is Anti-American. nuff said, get him gone after we marginalize his power. powder is dry.
John Stanford commented:
A few ppl here are saying they don’t care what religion he is. Some of those same ppl are indicting him as Muslim despite no evidence.
Bg even said America was “sharia compliant”, which, if I am to believe what I’m told about sharia, means that we let ppl rape their wives and we stone woman. As someone who lives in America, I can tell you that isn’t happening.
bg commented:
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John Stanford @ 6:28 am #96
informed people research messages,
idiots attack or kill the messengers..
“one can lead an idiOt to knowledge;
but one cannot make an idiOt think.”
-bg
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Valerie commented:
Well, lookee here: A Muslim, telling it like it is for Muslims in America, and it actually got printed.
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2010/09/05/2010-09-05_whether_or_not_ground_zero_mosque_is_built_us_muslims_have_access_to_the_america.html
Just a reminder: CAIR used to be supported by American muslims, until it got all weird and radical. Then it lost its support in the US, and is now funded by foreigners.
Valerie commented:
I’ve been thinking about this notion, and I think Minister of State for Industries Ayatullah Durrani is on to something. Unfortunately, it depends upon a vision of the character of the person currently in office that is drawn from the election campaign, not the reality.
BO would be in a position to make a speech as effective as Reagan’s “Tear down this wall” speech, provided he had the education and the desire to do it. However, he either does not know, or does not have the courage to voice, the term “hirabah.” That makes all the difference.
We elected a man based on the best of his rhetoric, and he doesn’t believe in his own words. He could parrot the wording, but he cannot implement, the prodding of America’s better angels.
John Stanford commented:
Re: BG
You ought to research some. You might find–shockingly enough–that Obama is Christian and attended a radical church for 20 years.
In fact, there is no evidence that he is Muslim and you have never presented any in making your argument.
Also, some people have been saying that America is already a Sharia nation. As said, it will not become one, because the Muslim voting block here is inconsequential. But to say it already is Sharia compliant is, um, actually not true.
As stated, Sharia allegedly causes woman to get stoned and rape to be legalized. None of which has happened in America. So you can either stop lying, or join the Obama administration if you wish to continue lying.
bg commented:
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Valerie @ 8:37 am #100
[Black Muslim leadership has foisted an ideology of victimization on immigrant Muslims, and it has stuck. Now we see these same leaders, fearing they have outlived their usefulness to the immigrant Muslim establishment, announcing the formation of a "Coalition of African American Muslims" that supports the mosque. It includes anti-Semitic race-baiter Louis Farrakhan and Siraj Wahhaj, who has defended the 1993 WTC bomb plotters and called the FBI and CIA the "real terrorists."
Critics of the Park51 project should see this for what it is: an attempt to conflate all opposition to this particular mosque with blanket hatred of the Muslim religion.
That's a devious tactic, and it must not succeed.]
I – S – L – A – M – O – P – H – O – B – I – A
[Jasser: I’ll first tell you what it is not- it’s not Islamophobia. If anyone is to blame for the existence of the concept of Islamophobia, if it even exists, it is Muslims who have been unable to articulate a manifestation of Islam which is free of a political state which threatens the sovereignty of the states in which Muslims reside. I don’t subscribe to the existence of the notion of Islamophobia because I believe that we are in just the beginning of a global conflict of political ideologies (Islamism vs. Americanism), and the conflation of “Islamophobia” is intentional by Islamists to deflect Americans and the free world from the necessary debate of political ideologies.]
much more here..
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John Stanford commented:
Re: Vallerie
Most of the opposition to the GZ Mosque isn’t bigotry, but that isn’t to say that bigotry towards Islam doesn’t exist.
In fact, there are always some people who hate other religions or groups, including people who hate Jews and Christians.
There are some people today who will say that, “There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim,” and that they don’t want Muslims to build a mosque in Tennessee, which is very far away from Ground Zero.
If someone were to think that there were no moderate Muslims, then they would indeed think that every Muslim is radical. Interestingly enough, Bill O’Reilly even had some Muslims on his show who were against the GZ Mosque.
bg commented:
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John Stanford @ 8:49 am #102
Earth to troll..
i don’t give a bats guano what Obama is or isn’t, my world does not revolve around Obama.. same goes for your laughable pretzel twisted opinions of me.. and even moreso of Sharia, of which you obviously have no concept of what it entails.. please, do some research.. revealing yourself to be no more than an obnoxious irritant is getting old fast..
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bg commented:
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so worth repeating..
American Muslim organization says President Obama is wrong
["As an American Muslim whose family fled persecution in Syria and as someone who has stood in the face of some resistance to the building of many of our houses of worship in the U.S., I fully understand the value of standing for religious freedom in America. But President Obama's statement about the Ground Zero mosque at last night's White House Iftar dinner is the latest example of political correctness gone awry.
The President commented that:
"Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as everyone else in this country. And that includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in Lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances. This is America."
Yes, Mr. President, this is America and you have fundamentally misunderstood the stakes in this discussion and the sentiments of the American people. Instead, you have focused on the very issue that the Islamist propagandists wish you to-- the narrative that Americans somehow need lectures about Islam, Muslims, and religious freedom.
Your message to Americans will be spun on Al Jazeera and by Islamists across the world that President Obama reassured a friendly global Muslim audience at the White House Ramadan dinner that he was going to remind Americans about the principles of religious freedom for Muslims since they seem to be trampling over those principles in the local dispute at Ground Zero in New York.
Mr. President this is not about religious freedom. It is about the importance of the World Trade Center site to the psyche of the American People. It is about a blatant attack on our sovereignty by people whose ideology ultimately demands the elimination of our way of life. While Imam Faisal Rauf may not share their violent tendencies he does seem to share a belief that Islamic structures are a political statement and even Ground Zero should be looked upon through the lens of political Islam and not a solely American one.
As a Muslim desperate to reform his faith, your remarks take us backwards from the day that my faith will come into modernity. I do not stand to eliminate Imam Rauf's religious freedom; I stand to make sure that my children's religious freedom will be determined by the liberty guaranteed in the American Constitution and not by clerics or leaders who are apologists for shar'iah law and will tell me what religious freedom is.
'Park 51', 'The Cordoba House' or whatever they are calling it today should not be built, not because it is not their right to do it - but because it is not right to do it." Mr. President, your involvement in this issue is divisive not uniting. Your follow-up stating that 'you will not speak to the wisdom of the construction of that mosque and center' indicates a passive-aggressive meddling on your part that only marginalizes those Muslim and non-Muslim voices against it while pretending to understand both sides of the debate.]
Thank You & May God Bless & Protect You & Yours Dr. Jasser..
be ashamed GOP, be doubly ashamed DNC, as both parties combined couldn’t (paraphrasing one of our reg posters) wear Dr. Jasser’s jock strap..
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bg commented:
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willful
denial
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John Stanford commented:
Re: Liar and Obama spokesman BG
You again presented no evidence of Sharia in America. Oh, no! A movie–that presents poorly sourced evidence–about radical Islam trying to take over America. Yeah, I’m talking about your Obama-esque lie that stated that Sharia is already in America.
(Furthermore, that radical morons–aka radical Islamists–might try to take over America isn’t the question–radicals who hate America always WANT to take it over, but they can’t, cuz they have no democratic presence here and none to come, and we have good security mechanisms that have prevented most attacks since 9/11.)
Let me repeat: In America, rape and stoning aren’t legalized. And Sharia isn’t part of American law. You actually have to present evidence to counter that fact rather than presenting non-evidence that doesn’t relate at all to the fact.
John Stanford commented:
Re: BG
You just said I don’t know what Sharia is.
Okay, so I guess Iran doesn’t do Sharia? I guess raping women then stoning them isn’t Sharia?
Oh, I have so much to fear then if Sharia doesn’t actually entail all that hate. You’re starting to sound that Imam Rauf, denying that stoning women is a part of Sharia.
Anyway, if my conception of the evils of Sharia isn’t really true, then I guess there isn’t really anything to fear from Sharia.
bg commented:
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for you & yours JS..
“The Project”
Obama Administration Stacking the Deck with Islamists
[Abdul-Malik also makes no bones about discussing how the election of President Obama is a step forward in the project of Islamization and the long term goal of Islamist domination which falls right in lock-step with that of the Muslim Brotherhood as revealed in their manifesto (scroll down).
[..]
“…even under the pressures that you and I know about, the deen of Islam is growing because people see even within all of this struggle it is better to be a Muslim under these conditions than to be a kaffir under any conditions… before Allah closes our eyes for the last time you will see Islam move from being the second largest religion in America-that’s where we are now- to being the first religion in America.”]
Obama Quietly Backing Muslim Brotherhood
Inside Our Government, Armed With Our Secrets
From Influence to Insurrection
to be continued..
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John Stanford commented:
Smear merchant BG just posted an article about why some people think the GZ Mosque is wrong.
If these comments are just for posting off topic articles that don’t relate to the discussion, I’m going to post an article about LeBron James.
bg commented:
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John Stanford @ 9:27 am #111
SHARIA LAW :aka: POLITICAL ISLAM :aka: ISLAMISM
look them up..
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John Stanford commented:
BG, to tell you the truth, Obama isn’t turning America into a Sharia nation.
Obama doesn’t support stoning women or legalizing rape…
Now if you would like to explain what you mean by Obama supporting Islamization or if you would like to present some evidence and facts about it, go right ahead, but you haven’t presented any evidence, and you need evidence when you make such claims.
John Stanford commented:
BG: Sharia Law=in Iran=stoning woman and legalizing rape. You are ignorant about the threat of Sharia Law.
Here we go:
“Iran Set to Stone Woman To Death — After Giving Her 99 Lashes — For Adultery”
http://jonathanturley.org/2010/07/06/iran-2/
THAT is Sharia!
Now if you think I am wrong, tell me where I am wrong, but if I am wrong about how bad Sharia is, then why are you so scared of it?
bg commented:
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John Stanford @ 9:29 am #113
oh, a hypocrite & an idiOt, go figure.. /s/
the posted was written by a MUSLIM..
hell-O??
oh yeah, post whatever you like, it’s
still (more or less) a free country..
John Stanford @ 9:34 am #115
like i said, you haven’t clue one
as to what Sharia law encompasses..
HINT
Islam has religious, legal, political,
economic and military components.
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bg commented:
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John Stanford @ 9:41 am #116
again, just a sample..
shariah: the code of law derived from the Koran and from the teachings and example of Mohammed; “sharia is only applicable to Muslims”; “under Islamic
law there is no separation of church and state”
Sharia Law :aka: Social Justice
Sharia Law and Bank Bailouts
Distribution and Social Justice in Sharia
[21. Islamic Fundamentalists rightly argue that neither hedonistic and individualistic system of capitalism nor the totalitarian collectivist system of socialism does justice to either the individual or to the community as a whole. The negative impact of large accumulaton of wealth by a few, particularly on the poor and the less privileged sectors of the population and on the less developed countries of the world, is regarded as un-Islamic, unjust and runs counter to Islamic morals and values. It violates the principles of national solidarity and common purpose which are fundamental principles of Islamic teaching. There are social imperatives to which the uses of property are subordinated. The Muslim is thus enjoined to accept restrictions in the individual use of his property in the interest of the common good. The Muslim is expected to give alms to the beggar, to the poor, and to the needy, and subscribe to or provide, according to his ability and means, for the needs of the community. This is why it is often the case that a rich Muslim builds a mosque or mosques for hism community or contributes substantially to social and community purposes. The Sharia conundrum enjoins the Muslim to follow a divine code of social justice that will justify his religious beliefs here on earth and attract for him divine favour in the life hereafter through his good works. Islam not only acclaims the good works by Muslims, it also regards good works as the main justification in the eyes of God and warns that not an iota of good works or mischief will be lost on the day of judgement. In Islam, good deeds earn merit with God, regardless of the religious adherence of their doers. Salvation consists of nothing more than good works, unlike the Christians who believe that not good works but the Grace of God leads to salvation in the life hereafter.]
please, do some research into the expanse
of propaganda encompassed via Sharia..
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bg commented:
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John Stanford @ 9:25 am #110
Re: Liar and Obama spokesman BG
ROTFLMBO!!
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bg commented:
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*John Stanford @ 9:29 am #113
for Obama until he was against Obama
until he was for Obama, etc.. etc.. etc..*
all articles posted written by MUSLIMS..
ergo.. you evidently didn’t read past
the headline, surprise, surprise, not..
just a sample:
We must note Ground Zero mosque’s hostile, provocative name
by Khudhayr Taher
May 18, 2010
Mosque Unbecoming May 18, 2010
Not at Ground Zero May 24, 2010
Mosque Unbecoming May 26, 2010
by Dr. M. Zuhdi Jasser
to be continued..
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bg commented:
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re: bg #121 continued..
The Mosque at Ground Zero: Who Is Behind It?
by Salah Uddin Shoaib Choudhury
July 31, 2010
U.S. Muslims underestimate 9/11 effect, Muslim thinker warns
Akbar Ahmed
August 5th, 2010
A Muslim victim of 9/11: ‘Build your mosque somewhere else’
by Neda Bolourchi
August 8, 2010
Asra Nomani on Ground Zero Mosque Opponents: “their fears are legitimate”
August 13, 2010
to be continued..
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bg commented:
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correction re: bg #121 = bg #120 continued..
re: bg #121 continued..
American Muslim organization says President Obama is wrong
American Islamic Forum for Democracy
August 15, 2010
We Muslims know the Ground Zero mosque is meant to be a deliberate provocation
by Raheel Raza and Tarek Fatah
August 17, 2010
Ground Zero Mosque Islamic Victory Symbol
byTawfik Hamid
August 18, 2010
Memo to the MSM on Imam Rauf
by Abdur-Rahman Muhammad
August 24, 2010
to be continued..
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bg commented:
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re: bg #122 continued..
The Ground Zero Mosque’s Muslim Opponents 9/25/10:
[by M. Zuhdi Jasser, May 24, 2010]
[by Neda Bolourchi, August 8, 2010]
Muslim Canadian Congress, August 9, 2010
Canadian Muslims, August 9, 2010
to be continued..
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bg commented:
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re: bg #123 continued..
by Abdul Rahman Al-Rashid, August 16, 2010
by Hussein Rashid, August 20, 2010
Miss USA Rima Fakih, August 20th 2010
Dr. Khaled Al-Haroub, August 23, 2010
by Abdur-Rahman Muhammad, August 24, 2010
to be continued..
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bg commented:
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re: bg #124 continued..
by Mansoor Ijaz, August 25, 2010
and please check out:
bg #25/26/27
re: the September 11 Museum, the Rauf connection,
and the steps Islamists are taking to Islamize it ..
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bg commented:
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Warlord Obama
[Obama’s socialist plans may have a lot to do with the only piece of legislation he introduced by himself in his single term as Senator. During the 2008 Presidential Campaign, the Obama sponsored bill, The Global Poverty Act, had the support of liberal religious groups, and will make levels of U.S. foreign aid submissive to the dictates of the UN under the guise of humanitarianism. Senator Joe Biden, then Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, pushed the bill as it passed the House with only a voice vote—even though most of the Congressmen did not know that it committed the U.S. to spending 0.7 percent of its gross national product on foreign aid; with a 2015 goal of $845 billion.
Obama’s leniency toward Islam provokes the question of whose and what interests he is really standing for. The man with the name Barack Hussein Obama apologizes for America to Muslim nations while he endorses Islam in America. The socialist plans he has proposed and enacted will force Americans into feudal serfdom, ending the liberty and freedom we cherish today.
With Communism riding the backs of liberal Democrats, and Islamists riding the backs of both, Obama’s plans are not just socialist. They form a framework for generations of “dhimmitude,” a class status forced upon non-Muslims by coercion and constant fear of reprisal as a result of cowardice, vulnerability, bribery and extortion, while paying “jizya”taxes for the “right” to live as second class citizens. Obama’s controversial plans and the resulting taxes are effectively dhimmitude and jizya in accordance to Islamic doctrine–to control dhimmis until they embrace Islam completely.]
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John Staford commented:
Perpetually confused young man BG asks the question, Who is Obama fighting for?
BG may not know this, but Obama is what is called a LIBERAL.
If you follow me for one moment, it will be 100% obvious who Obama is fighting for: liberal ideologues.
BG says some nonsense about how Obama is supporting Islam, or something. No, the fact that Obama often criticizes American policy and the fact that he is not very supportive of Israel does not show Obama being some kind of closet Islamist. It is just a standard liberal ideology to support Palestine, to try to grant rights based on race, to support socialism, and to criticize American foreign policy.
The reason Obama doesn’t support American foreign policy is simple: He’s a freakin liberal. He’s not an Islamist supporter; he’s just a liberal, and everything you accuse him of doing goes along with being a liberal.
Moreover, you just lied about him supporting “”"dhimmitude”"”. Obama hasn’t done, um, anything to “make non-Muslims live as 2nd class citizens.” Indeed, non-Muslims make up 99% of the voting block, so even if the non-Muslim Obama wanted to do that, he couldn’t.
Can you give one example of Obama supporing “”"dhimmitude”"” and granting Muslims superior rights? Um, no you can’t, because you just made that fact up out of thin air
John Staford commented:
Liar BG, who is ignorant about Sharia Law, still will not address the precepts of Sharia Law.
Unbenounst to BG, Sharia Law, which is practiced in Iran, among other countries, has, in Iran, involved the stoning of woman and the legalization of rape.
BG says that Sharia has already come to America. BG would be mistaken, because the extremism of Sharia is not taking place in America, and will largely be protected by the laws of the land, even if there were a concerted effort to take it here (ie rape isn’t going to be legalized anytime soon).
Now does Mr. BG think that some parts of Sharia already have come to America? He would have to cite a specific example, which, so far, he hasn’t.
The ignorant BG may, if he actually were competent at noting facts, say that Sharia financing has been offered at some banks. Indeed this act of not paying mortgage on a house but instead buying it for a larger price than the bank bought it for is offered at some banks. However, it is offered at such banks just like any number of financial products are offered. If you do not like the evils (bwahahaha) of Sharia financing, you can simply opt to not use that financing method. That is, unless you are BG, and you are completely incapable of making decisions on your own.
BG also posted a lot of links about the Ground Zero Mosque. That’s great, honey; I can post some links about LeBron James. But LeBron James isn’t the topic of discussion, so I chose not, too. You ought to try to keep your posts related to the discussion, as well.
bg commented:
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John Staford
Sharia Banking Conquers Europe
Sharia Law:
Muslim or Islamic law, both civil and criminal justice as well
as regulating individual conduct both personal and moral.
but hey, you just keep denying the
facts and attacking the messenger..
we shall know thee by your fruits..
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John Stanford commented:
Liar BG just reposted something that he had previously posted that did not address Sharia Law.
According to the fool, Sharia Law is Muslim law regulating “civil and criminal justice as well
as regulating individual conduct both personal and moral.”
Uh, okay, just one example: In Iran, woman are stoned and rape is legalized.
Since BG is completely ignorant of Sharia Law and/or Muslim law, I just thought I’d provide that example for him. He didn’t actually explain what Sharia Law was, so I had to explain it for him.
But he still has yet to respond to how Sharia has already penetrated America. He can’t, because it hasn’t.
Nor can he explain, in his convuluted logic, how Imam Obama has supported what BG thinks is called “dhimmitude.” Um, okay, I’ll keep eating pork and not praying to allah and I’ll keep having the same rights as everyone else in this country (aside from some extra free stuff that our law grants to several “minority” groups, but, you know, the same civil liberties for the most part) and I won’t have any problem, but maybe BG will, because BG’s confused mind has come up with an idea of “dhimmitude” taking away his rights, so he will continue to see ghosts and other illusions taking away his rights.
bg commented:
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John Staford @ 1:56 pm #128
re: [the extremism of Sharia is not taking place in America]
just a sample: do some research..
‘Honor killings’ in USA raise concerns
Muslim Honor Killings in America
New York beheading
Pentagon Report on Fort Hood Dangerously Silent on Threat of Radical Islam
more here and here and here and..
We need more of this
and quite frankly, less of someone who states Obama is anti-Sharia yet goes
out of his way to not only appoint pro-Sharia legalists, but enlists pro-Sharia Islamists with one hand, while silencing anti-Sharia Muslims with the other.. same way he promotes Islam and condemns Christianity, promotes Islamic states and condemns America and her allies, etc, etc, etc, like you.. kifaya!!
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John Stanford commented:
Liar and uneducated kid BG just stated that Sharia is going on in America.
Really, BG? Did you provide examples this time?
Finally BG actually provided what he erroneously thinks is evidence.
In fact BG is once again lying through his teeth.
First: “Honor killing’s raise concern”
Really, BG? Honor killings are illegal! The people who have committed them are in jail. If America had Sharia Law, then those murderers would be on the street, not in jail. Law is the governing force and rules on the country, and thus, we actually do have laws against murder. Um, yeah, we don’t have any laws legalizing honor killing.
To repeat: Honor killings are not legal.
Strike one.
Then you post some more about Muslims who got arrested for killing people. That’s why they’re in jail now. Strike two, strike three, strike four.
Then you posted about the Pentagon not talking about Islamic terrorist Fort Hood killers Islamic terrorist ties. Um, political correctness, is actually part of AMERICAN society, so it is a completely American thing to do to not say anything about Islam. Our political and media elites are always being politically correct. There is no law against telling the truth, but people in the media or in politics won’t do it out of their own free will.
Why do you keep lying, BG? I told you to provide some evidence, and then once again, you didn’t provide ANY evidence AT ALL.
If you want to be taken seriously, you should source your arguments and stop making up s**t.
You say that there is Sharia Law then you provide the example of someone who got arrested for murder. Um, Sharia Law would not have people arrested for murder, if it was an honor killing. However American Law does have people arrested for honor killings, so thus American Law is not Sharia Law, you liar.
John Stanford commented:
So you think that someone getting arrested for honor killings is an example of Sharia Law?
Actually, in Sharia Law, people wouldn’t get arrested for honor killings, because honor killings would be legal.
You just provided an example of exactly the opposite of Sharia Law.
I’m right and you’re wrong, and if you think otherwise, why don’t you provide an example of Sharia being law in America instead of providing an example of Sharia being illegal.
bg commented:
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JS..
duh..
carry on..
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John Stanford commented:
Sorry about the double post. It didn’t show up the first time.
Nonetheless, repetition maybe helps points seep into your brain.
John Stanford commented:
Liar BG thinks that an example of Sharia Law is people getting arrested for killing their daughters.
Well, if that is true, Sharia Law is a good thing!
Like the liberal terrorist who shot up Discovery Channel, BG will continue to slowly go insane.
BG is illiterate, and so he cannot respond when asked if Sharia Law is coming to America. Instead, he says, “Hey, this guy committed an honor killing recently and then he got arrested!”
Oh, no!!! People getting arrested for honor killings!
Give it a rest, BG. If you want to find an example of Sharia Law you ought to do better than to find an example of someone GETTING ARRESTED for doing something illegal. That’s just American law, and it’s a good law.
S. Wolf commented:
John Stanford #135
It’s your own seeping brains you need to be concerned about.. there’s gray matter dripping off your ear lobes. you aren’t the first pretentious know nothing poser who refuses to do any research and attacks those who do.
John Stanford commented:
Liar S. Wolf says that Sharia Law has come to America.
His example?
Someone got arrested for killing someone else in an “honor killing.”
Newsflash, dimwit: Honor killings are legal in Sharia Law!
If America was turning into a Sharia Law nation, the murderer wouldn’t have gotten arrested.
Answer me this, Mr. Wolf: If America is a Sharia Law nation then why have people been getting arrested for committing honor killings when honor killings are legal in Sharia?
bg commented:
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special info for you John Stanford..
this lady gets the last word..
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Fathima commented:
Cmon guys put all your prejudices, bad experiences and preconceived notions aside and explore what is troubling you to achieve a better and sound understanding of the real state of affairs and the truth of why religion exists.
My best wishes for success go out to all of you on this blessed day of Eid.