Obama Speaks Out Against Burning Koran… But Supports GZ Victory Mosque
Posted by Jim Hoft on Thursday, September 9, 2010, 11:27 AM
Barack Obama spoke out today in an interview with ABC News against the planned burning of the Koran in Florida.
He said there might be rioting in “Pockistan” and Afghanistan.
President Barack Obama is warning that a Florida pastor’s plan to burn the Koran could result in “serious violence” against U.S. troops and is not in standing with American values.
Last month during his Ramadan Iftar Dinner President Obama spoke out in favor of the planned Ground Zero Victory Mosque.
And, they wonder why 1 of 4 Americans believe Obama is a Muslim?
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Mats commented:
Can’t stop defending them muslims, hey President Hussein?
Anneke9 commented:
And the MSM wonders why we all think he’s Muslim?
Andreas K. commented:
Sarah Palin noted on Twitter that book burning is bad. I asked her if she would call burning Mein Kampf, Mao’s or even Marx’s writings bad as well. Curious if she’ll reply.
Tony Blair is also screaming against burning the koran. He’s actually saying: people should read it instead of burning it. He also says that burning the koran is “lacking respect, is evil and will be condemned by the peoples of the world, whether religious or not.”
I’ve read the koran. And I support burning it. Or maybe use it as toilet paper. Burning is a waste of good paper.
Swifty commented:
I guess they didn’t burn a Bible because they aren’t allowed in their Muslim country.
Afghans protest Quran burning plan, torch U.S. flag
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700064034/Afghans-protest-Quran-burning-plan-torch-US-flag.html?s_cid=rss-5
Jim commented:
“He said there might be rioting in “Pockistan” and Afghanistan.”
You know, it’s inevitable that this is going to happen at some point any way, lets just get it over and have at it! It’s time that this is all brought to a head, if they want their jihad then lets go!
Andreas K. commented:
Swifty
September 9th, 2010 | 11:40 am | #4
Leave the Bible burning to western media outlets. 2007, German ARD (government station) burned a Bible on tv as part of a “documentary” that was bashing Christians.
That was okay.
Oh wait, of course it was okay. It was only to bash Christians. Bashing Christians is fine.
Cause Christians usually don’t cut off your head when you “insult” their god.
“He said there might be rioting in “Pockistan” and Afghanistan.”
That would imply that there are days over there when they don’t riot. When would those days be? Once per year?
down with dems commented:
Build the victory mosque = Islam wins
Move the victory mosque = Islam attacks
Burn the Koran = Islam attacks
Don’t burn the Koran = Islam wins
Religion of peace… nope. Religion of violence, threats, antagonization, provocation… yep.
The supposedly peaceful imam in NY pushing for the victory mosque says if it is moved or not built, Islam will attack… so now the “moderate, peaceful” Muslims are using the “radical violent minority” Muslims as a threat to get their way. When the “peaceful moderate” Muslims don’t denounce the “violent radical” Muslims but instead USE THEM as a means to sow fear, the “peaceful moderate” Muslims are no better than the crazy jihadis.
John Stanford commented:
So apparently Gateway here thinks that we should burn Qurans?
He went crazy when Obama said that book burning was a bad idea. (I know, how could someone say something so radical as book burning is a bad idea?)
Just_Saying commented:
The Koran is satanic porn. Burn it.
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greenfairie commented:
The Koran bbq is really just a bad idea. The pastor is one ladder rung above a crazy Fred Phelps type, the sort of person the MSM likes to hold up as a typical bigoted Christian white Republican conservative halfwit. The stunt won’t do anything but drag out the screaming CAIR types and self-righteous leftists who will use this to delegitimize the war on jihadist aggression.
That said, where are all of these people when it’s the American flag being burned or Christianity that’s being blasphemed? The anti-American Atheist-In-Chief is nowhere to be found.
Mrgoodwench commented:
So when are you going for your hajj Hussain Obama ?
Will you take your family or you plan to go alone for hajj ?
Hajj starts after election in 2010..why not get it over with and remove all doubts about your allegiances and loyalties.
down with dems commented:
If the pastor burned one Bible and one Koran, is there any doubt that the reactions of Christians and Muslims would differ? Is there any doubt who would pose a greater threat? That was the point of his exercise, not the burning itself but the reaction to the burning — and even the reaction to just the THREAT of a burning. The focus has narrowed in on the burning itself instead of the violent threats preceding and the violent actions that would follow such a burning, because that way the media can praise and protect Islam and make Islam the victim. No Muslim anywhere will suffer injury from a burned book, but people will suffer violence at the hands of Muslims if the book is burned. That was the point, and the media can’t see the forest for the trees.
It’s not hard to see where the road we are on will lead. A conflict between “turn the other cheek” and “off with their heads” will certainly end with Islam on top.
snowman commented:
I noticed one thing about mooslums, they never grow out up. always acting like 10 yr. olds. they keep reading the koran that Hitler wrote.
Khan Krum commented:
The reason the Ruling Class and its JournOlista media are giving it so much attention is that they are despirately trying to make a moral equivalency argument between Islam and the West. They are basically trying to say, “look at these reprehensible yahoos and how full of hate they are. Why we aren’t any better that the Muslims in our backwardness.” This needs to be nipped in the bud by exposing “The Religion of Peace” for what it really is.
snowman commented:
Oops, meant to say grow-up, actually wanted to say never grow out of puberty.
olm commented:
This is totally out of hand. I don’t care if he burns books or not. The way I see it is this wacko pastor is between a rock and a hard place but he totally put himself there. He’s on his own.
BUT why in the hell are the talking heads talking about this? and what difference does it make if it incites violence? Isn’t there violence now?
Seriously why are we giving this pastor the attention he apparently craves?
moron commented:
And why is no one seems to know why ammo and weapons are selling so well?
Joanne commented:
John Gibson on the radio is trying to say that if the Koran is burned, it is going to get 19 year old American kids fighting in Afghanistan killed. No, the burning of the Koran is not killing 19 year olds in Afghanistan – muslims are killing them. I am so sick of appeasers. Even the kid who has to pay his lunch money every day to bullies is going to have to take the bullies on when he doesn’t have the money. Muslims can threaten non-muslims, because non-muslims cower at threats; it is time to let muslims bring it on and then see how well it goes for them.
People should check out -
http://thereligionofpeace.com/
to see that this is what muslims do the whole world over – they threaten and killl non-muslims. Sooner or later people are going to face the truth and stand up for themselves.
Muslims equate burning a Koran with killing as many non-muslims as possible. Yah, every country needs a few million muslims to make sure they do as they are told.
Gman commented:
The terrorists have won.
Gman commented:
Actually I should say the terrorists and their allies the liberals have won.
Stuart commented:
I wouldn’t burn a Koran. It would increase my carbon footprint. But I might accidently drop it…
into a tub of bacon grease.
Valerie commented:
John Stanford
September 9th, 2010 | 11:45 am | #8
Some people really work hard to misunderstand and english language posting. Or perhaps they just wish our host were more radical, and respond as if it were so.
bg commented:
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hey Obama..
what’s a little genocide??
besides, didn’t you hear..
“the war is lost”..
gah!!
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Joe commented:
We can only hope that if the radicals do attack that they get the places where Gateway Pundit commenters live. Hopefully not NYC again. Although if they do attack NYC again, hopefully they will target one of the anti-Mosque protests.
donh commented:
Building a mosque at ground zero could provoke serious violance of a religious nature. MohamObama supports the right to build a mosque to honor the 911 terrorists regardless of who gets offended or killed. This mosque is a direct threat to our troops and american civilians, but the political class only gives a damn about this one pastor burning a sacrificial offering to his God.
tarpon commented:
It’s legal, it’s Constitutional, I can’t speak to the wisdom though.
Muslims strike me as way to sensitive.
ebayer commented:
Everything about them is “sacred”.
The Holy Koran,The Holy Shrines,The Sacred Holy Cities.
From now on I think anytime anyone in the media or government is going to speak about the Christian Holy Book,they should use the term,”The Holy Scriptures”.
Our churchs and Holy cities should be referred to as “Holy” and sacred,such as the Sacred city of Jerusalum or the “Sacred Vatican City”.
Or are Muslims more pious than the rest of the world?
Muslims didn’t seem to be to concerned about American peoples reactions to their celebrating the events of 9/11.
Remember all the celebrating in the “Arab street”?
Granny commented:
Hmmmm – seems the FBI is visiting the good pastor
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100909/ap_on_re_us/quran_burning
That really smacks of suppression of Free Speech to me.
Charlie Crist chimes in with -
“In addition to being offensive, the Gainesville protest puts at risk those brave Americans who are fighting abroad for the freedoms and values that we believe in as Americans,” said Crist, who is running as an independent for the U.S. Senate.
I don’t recall the Bill of Rights mentioning either of those things as criteria on which to limit Free Speech.
bg commented:
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Joe @ 12:55 pm #24
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Valerie commented:
What if, instead of the Koran, he burns Bin Laden’s “fatwa”? The ceremony would be even better if he read the choice parts first.
There is a whole body of terrorist writings that have been excluded from Muslim law by the Organization of Islamic Conferences. These writings are plainly blasphemous, and it would do us all good to have them get the individual attention they deserve.
That kind of “book-burning” would be a lot easier for reasonable people, including devout Muslims, to support. It would be more sharply targeted to the real problem, and clearly distinguish between Muslims and irhabists.
Dave Thompson commented:
If Muslims want to use the Quran burning as a pretext for more violence, they just have to go on Youtube and search for “Quran burning”. If they want to get pissed off and recruit people, they just have to make a Google Images search for “Mohammed Cartoon”.
Burning the Quran won’t be responsible for the death of US soldiers, the text INSIDE the Quran is responsible.
I say don’t build the mosque AND burn the Quran.
Stuart commented:
Joe #24
The last person who attacked me was at a place called Phan Rang. As I recall it didn’t work out so well for him.
bg commented:
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Q: what is the difference between the burning of
Korans, not burning Korans, & Islamist attacks??
A: Korans get burnt..
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Charlie commented:
How come no one is asking all those Supreme Court Justices and the usual pundit/celebrities that insisted that burning things is protected free speech about all this?
The Acts commented:
A man draws a picture of a deity, and he is murdered.
A man writes a book about a religion, and he is hounded for twenty years because of it.
Another man draws a picture of a deity, and he must live in hiding.
Now, a man burns a Holy Book, and the world is in chaos.
The faith that sews together the events above is the same.
However, if the religion was Christianity or Judaism; if the deities were God or Jehovah; if the book were the Bible or the Torah: Our society wouldn’t blink an eye. No one would even care to cover the non-event. After all, out of appeasement, our own Armed Forces just finished burning a whole truck-load of Bibles in Afghanistan a few months ago; it was hardly in the press for more than a day before we moved on to more “important matters.”
The act of burning a Holy book that is cherished by those who follow it is cruel.
The act of ignoring and disowning the religious heritage of your own citizens is treachery.
The first act is obviously more deplorable to most in the press and in our Government.
Jean commented:
Joe, I wish the same to you and your terrorist butt kissing sympathizers.
ice commented:
It is interesting that Obama’s basis of ‘support’ for the GZM was on …..American’s rights and religious liberties.
He opposes the burning of the Koran based on those SAME American rights and religious liberties when it suits him.
Where is the Left’s ‘seperation of church and state’? O is ultra-sensitively supporting one religion over Freedom of Speech.
Where was Obama (while a Senator) with his condemnation of ‘leaked top secret intelligance’ in the MSM when it endangered our military and would incite muslims in other countries?
Auntie Em commented:
I am curious if the koran will even burn. It’s not much different than a ouija board, and those have been known not to burn. I know that islam is satan’s attempt at being like God.
fedrefugee commented:
His early childhood training was Muslim; however, because he shows no empathy to anyone, I don’t think he is a Muslim just a muslim sympathizer. Anything to express his deep seated hatred toward his own country. He answers to no higher authority, Christian or Muslim, other than himself.
snowman commented:
To be honest, i lost focus. you all need to stand down. why? looking for a reason to impose MARSHALL LAW. do you all want to lose the Nov. elections and maybe lose your country? think about it. just thinking out loud.
bg commented:
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ice @ 1:36 pm #37
alas, don’t recall where he was, “present”
most likely, but i do know where he is now..
just a sample:
Obama stacking the deck with Islamists
[Abdul-Malik also makes no bones about discussing how the election of President Obama is a step forward in the project of Islamization and the long term goal of Islamist domination which falls right in lock-step with that of the Muslim Brotherhood as revealed in their manifesto (scrll dwn).]
Inside Our Government, Armed With Our Secrets
From Influence to Insurrection
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Andreas K. commented:
Joe
September 9th, 2010 | 12:55 pm | #24
Hopefully Joe, you will get a mosque right on your doorstep. Hopefully Joe, the area you live in will be “culturally enriched” by mohammedans. Hopefully Joe, your children will go to a school with lots of mohammedans.
Only then islam-appeasers like you will understand.
Why do you think are so many European islamo-critics on the side of the koran burner?
We know where kow-towing to islam gets you. We see it EVERY DAY with our OWN EYES.
ValerieNo Gravatar
September 9th, 2010 | 1:18 pm | #30
What if, instead of the Koran, he burns Bin Laden’s “fatwa”? The ceremony would be even better if he read the choice parts first.
There is a whole body of terrorist writings that have been excluded from Muslim law by the Organization of Islamic Conferences. These writings are plainly blasphemous, and it would do us all good to have them get the individual attention they deserve.
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And they are irrelevant. Read the koran. Look into what sharia law really is. Then come again.
But I’ll give you a hand:
Sharia in Europe Today
When you study Islam in Europe today, you are seeing America in 20 years. Why? The actions by Muslims in Europe are based on Sharia law, the same Sharia law that is beginning to be implemented in America today.
· Traffic cannot move in London streets as Muslims commandeer the streets to pray-a political result based on Sharia law.
· Entire areas of Europe are no-go zones for non-Muslims, this includes the police. These are Islamic enclaves where only Muslims live. The Muslim-only policy is based on Sharia.
· In England an Anglican bishop calls for the rule of Islamic law for Muslims. The bishop is obeying Sharia law.
· In the schools only Islamic approved texts can be used. This is based on Sharia law.
· Christians may not speak to Muslims about Christianity nor may they hand out literature. This is a political result based on Sharia law enforced by British courts.
· Rape by Muslims is so prevalent that Sweden has forbidden the police to collect any data in the investigation that would point to Islam. Rape is part of Islamic doctrine as applied to non-Muslim women.
· In London mass demonstrations by Muslims call for the end of British law and Sharia law to rule all people. This political action is based on Sharia.
· In some English hospitals, during Ramadan fast (an Islamic religious event) non-Muslims cannot eat where a Muslim can see them. The submission of non-Muslims is based on Sharia law.
· At British hospitals, Muslim women are treated only as Sharia law demands.
· If a Dane says that he is proud to be Danish near a Muslim, it can be seen as hate speech and racism. This is in accordance to Sharia law.
Sharia in America Today
Here are current and historical events in America that are driven by Sharia law:
· On September 11, 2001 jihadists attacked and destroyed the World Trade Center. This was in compliance to the laws of jihad found in the Sharia law. The attack was a political action based upon a religious motivation.
· Textbooks in America must be approved by Islamic councils. This is in accordance with Sharia law.
· American employers and schools are met with demands for time and space to do Islamic prayer. These demands are based on Sharia law.
· The American banking system is becoming Islamicized with Sharia financing. Our banking system indulges in Sharia financial law and does not know the rest of Sharia law.
· Universities are asked to close swimming pools and other athletic facilities to be used for Muslim women.
· Hospitals are being sued for not having Sharia compliant treatment.
· No course at the college level uses critical thinking in the history and doctrine of Islam. Under Sharia no aspect of Islam may be criticized.
· Muslim charities give money to jihadists, as per Sharia law.
· Muslim foot-baths are being installed in airport facilities, using tax money. This is in accordance with Sharia law.
· American prisons are a stronghold of proselytizing for Islam.
· Workplaces are being made Islamic worship sites through special rooms and time off to pray. This is in accordance to Sharia law.
· Islamic refugees bring all of their wives for welfare and medical treatment to America. Authorities will not act even when presented with evidence. Polygamy is pure Sharia.
· We are fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to implement constitutions that have the supremacy of Sharia law as their first article.
Why Do We Need to Know Sharia?
ISLAMIC SCHOLARS CLAIM: Islamic law is perfect, universal and eternal. The laws of the United States are temporary, limited and will pass. It is the duty of every Muslim to obey the laws of Allah, the Sharia.
SHARIA: Sharia is based on the principles found in the Koran and other Islamic religious/political texts. There are no common principles between American law and Sharia.
Under Sharia law:
· There is no freedom of religion
· There is no freedom of speech
· There is no freedom of thought
· There is no freedom of artistic expression
· There is no freedom of the press
· There is no equality of peoples-a non-Muslim, a Kafir, is never equal to a Muslim
· There are no equal rights for women
· Women can be beaten
· A non-Muslim cannot bear arms
· There is no equal protection under Sharia for different classes of people. Justice is dualistic, with one set of laws for Muslim males and different laws for women and non-Muslims.
· Our Constitution is a man-made document of ignorance, jahiliyah, that must submit to Sharia
· There is no democracy, since that means that a non-Muslim is equal to a Muslim
· Non-Muslims are dhimmis, third-class citizens
· There is no Golden Rule
· There is no critical thought
· All governments must be ruled by Sharia law
Unlike common law, Sharia is not interpretive, nor can it be changed.
Joanne commented:
If Christian churches had any cajones, they would join together with this church and burn the Koran stating that muslims must stop killing Christians, Jews, Hindus, and many others the world over, in the name of their God, Satan, or a Koran would be burned every Sunday. Stop killing, then they’d stop burning the Koran. I don’t imagine muslims would like that because they believe they have every right to kill non-muslims wherever they find them.
Bobbi commented:
Is he missing something? He said this country was built on religious freedom, but there will be none when Sharia law takes over. Quite frankly, I think the Koran should be reclassified as a political manifesto, and all NSAIDs shutdown. They are breeding grounds for hatred.
bg commented:
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snowman @ 2:05 pm #40
ironic how Obama holds the same threatening
thuggery over US as do the Islamists isn’t it..
unfortunately for US, the bottom line ipso facto
is: the longer we wait, the stronger they grow..
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Joanne commented:
Andreas – and another – when you are born to a muslim father, you are a muslim from birth, and to leave or convert death. As far as I can tell, Obama is still alive, insane, and telling the world he is a Christian, and this would be because the entire muslim world believes Obama to be a muslim.
Where is the belief or faith in Islam – there is no choice when Islam forces you into Islam and kills you if you leave. People should be outraged that Islam even claims to be a belief system.
bg commented:
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Obama: “You ain’t seen nothin’ yet!”
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Andreas K. commented:
Joanne
September 9th, 2010 | 2:09 pm | #43
Where shall I send the fuel?
More than 100 million Christians are being prosecuted and oppressed around the world merely for being Christians. Many of them in mohammedan countries.
Yet the media is silent. The politicians are silent.
But they’re all up in arms about burning a book that is as vile as Mein Kampf.
Palin, Blair, many EU politicians, etc, they’re all screaming that it’s “insensitive” and other crap. Yes, Sarah Palin is among the crowd as well. It’s “insensitive” to burn a book that is insensitive. I wonder when she’ll come forward with “islam is peace.” As much as I like her, but she really should stay out of this. Or read the koran, then come again. Same with Glenn Beck. I like him, but when it comes to islam he clearly needs some education.
I should invite all of them to Europe, the real Europe, not the tourist version everybody knows.
Joanne commented:
I mean -
Andreas – and another – when you are born to a muslim father, you are a muslim from birth, and to leave or convert “means” death.
Militant Conservative commented:
Auntie Em
September 9th, 2010 | 1:48 pm | #38
Sura I KAF and COW first ten pages lit up just fine. Made poor butt wipe cuz its kinda gritty.
I did get the slight odor of sulpher though. Gotta go, litter critters in the litter box.
powder is dry.
Andreas K. commented:
Joanne
September 9th, 2010 | 2:21 pm | #49
Correct. If you are a mohammedan and you leave islam behind you, they are not only authorized, but ordered to kill you. Leaving islam for another religion means that any good mohammedan must put a knife through your heart. There is no option. He must do it, it’s his sacred duty.
That said.
9-11 2010 NYC. Geert Wilders is coming. At least that’s the current schedule. If you’re in the area, go and listen to him speak.
The Elector of Saxony commented:
I wonder if Obama was sympathetic to “Piss Christ”?
I imagine, like all Leftist elitists, he smiled his smug smile, and enjoyed the show of watching those who venerate the Cross weep a bit inside at its desecration. By the way, that was funded with taxpayer dollars, right, Leftists?
Now, it comes time for the Muslims to watch something they venerate be desecrated. If these 3rd world pagans are ever to be brought into a world that is free and democratic and PLURALISTIC, this is the time for them to stand up and start acting like members of an advanced civilization. If they act like 7th century barbarians, then we should treat them as such, yes even those living among us.
Many people, myself included do not believe that every “person” is fit material for a free society. We are proven right every day by the state of the world, and this is one more opportunity to watch the truth on display. You can put an ape in a $3000.00 suit. It won’t make him a businessman. Those who don’t want this to happen want the truth hidden, but I say let’s get it out in the open.
The Muslims of Europe are traitors to every society in which they live. They murder journalists, uncovered women, lesbians and gays, they kill movie makers, writers and artists. The mythical moderates NEVER speak out with full-throat-ed condemnation of the violence. What they are is antithetical to what WE are. Islam worldwide needs to decide what century it wants to live in and live with that choice.
Militant Conservative commented:
Auntie Em
September 9th, 2010 | 1:48 pm | #38
Not kidding, bought the vile thing today for 7 bucks. Koran translated by John Meadows Rodwell publisher is Bantam.
mcnorman commented:
This pastor should wrap those books in an American Flag, light it and I’ll bet the ACLU will be there to ensure that his rights aren’t stepped on.
snowman commented:
Thank you bg #45. so my post at #40 is incorrect. burn baby burn.
Andreas K. commented:
@The Elector of Saxony
While you’re spot on, you forgot that they also bleed our nations’ finances dry.
Germany’s budget for 2010 proves it.
320 billion Euros
80 billion new debt
150 billion for the welfare state
2001 the costs for the welfare state were roughly one third of the budget. Today it’s almost 50%. Thanks to uncontrolled immigration from the usual suspects.
Same in the UK. Same in the Netherlands. Same here in Austria (we’re bankrupt, just our politicians and the media won’t admit it, our national debt will hit 75% of the GDP in 2012.) Same everywhere in Europe.
But the moment you say something against it… you are the evil one, you are the nazi, the racist and the media treats you like you were the new Hitler, as seen with Thilo Sarrazin.
But resistance is forming. In Sarrazin’s case it started with one man holding up a sign “Thank you Thilo.” He was jumped at once by leftists and journalists, verbally assaulted. The result? The PI Group Munich (PI for Politically Incorrect, named after the PI blog) now uses “Thank you Thilo” t-shirts on their events.
And resistance is spreading. The basis of the German socialist party is standing behind Sarrazin. More and more people listen to what Geert Wilders has to say.
People over here are pissed off.
If I would quote the comments on the whole koran burning thing… they wouldn’t get through the filter and Jim would eventually have to ban me, because people comment along the lines of “f*ck yeah!”
There is a lot of anger over here and should politicians and media carry on with this, should the muselmaniacs who follow Moham the Mad carry on as well… this powder keg WILL explode. People are angry with the daily kow-towing to the mohammedans. More than 70% of the Austrian people don’t want islam on their doorstep as a recent poll shows, much to the surprise of our so called leaders. Apparently brainwashing us isn’t working as planned. And it’s similar in many other countries.
From Germany I have heard that, in a bookshop, one of the staff was almost yelling at a female customer who wanted to buy Sarrazin’s book, along the lines of how dared she to buy this “evil nazi”(tm) book. A normal woman, none of the islamo-critics. It’s spreading. People are waking up, or so I’m hoping.
befuddled commented:
SwiftyNo Gravatar
September 9th, 2010 | 11:40 am | #4
“I guess they didn’t burn a Bible because they aren’t allowed in their Muslim country.
Afghans protest Quran burning plan, torch U.S. flag”
silly people still don’t understand islam.
in muslim countries, they burn Christians not Bibles. there are no Bibles in muslim countries- how silly of you to think that there were. so obviously its much easier to burn a flag than a bible.
Chippy commented:
Screw you Obama! Your just another scare monger kook idiot! If muslims can’t handle our first amendment, get out of our country. This pastor is not a nut. He is a hero. This pastor has more balls than the president. Looking forward to burning a koran at Park 51. America, quit kowtowing to this attack on our country by this so-called “religion of peace”. Be proud! Not fearful.
Andreas K. commented:
befuddled
September 9th, 2010 | 2:45 pm | #58
Actually, burning is a punishment for being homosexual in the mohammedan “law”. Though there is some discussion over what would be the appropriate method to “execute” homosexuals. As I said burning on a stake is one way, but other “schools” of “thought” support throwing homosexuals from high places so that they fall to their deaths.
Iran doesn’t agree with either and simply hangs them.
By the way, in Pakistan a Christian village has been flooded on purpose to protect a mohammedan village from the flood.
But islam is peace.
Corporal Vere commented:
Note to Narcissist-in-Chief Obama:
You are being paid to defend the Constitution, Spanky.
Marilyn Manson regularly wipes his rectum with pages ripped from the Holy Bible. They call it freedom of speech.
Chris Ofili’s painting The Holy Virgin Mary, was smeared with elephant dung. They call it freedom of expression.
Andres Serrano, placed a small plastic crucifix submerged in a glass of his own urine, and called it art. He even won an award. Again, freedom of expression.
The American flag is pissed on, defecated upon, and eventually burned right here in America. They call it freedom of speech.
If Pastor Jones so desires to burn copies of the koran, then let’s call it freedom of speech.
bg commented:
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Earth to Obama..
[Muhammad owned and sold Black slaves. In fact, he ordered and built the pulpit of his mosque with African slave labour. The Qur'an encourages sex with female slaves in several places. Classical Islamic law allows a light-skinned Muslim man to marry a Black woman, but a Black Muslim man is restricted from marrying a light-skinned woman. As the literature of the time put it, "only a whore prefers blacks; the good woman will welcome death rather than being touched by a black man.”
So interwoven is slavery with Islam that Islams' holiest city, Mecca (site of the Haj pilgrimage), was a slave trading capital. Quoting Azumah again, up until the 20th century, Mecca served as the gateway to the Muslim world for slaves brought out of Africa. "It became a custom for pilgrims to take slaves for sale in Mecca or buy one or two slaves while on Haj as souvenirs to be kept, sold or given as gifts."
Muslim Arab and Persian literature depicts Blacks as "stupid, untruthful, vicious, sexually unbridled, ugly and distorted, excessively merry and easily affected by music and drink.” Nasir al-Din Tusi, a famous Muslim scholar said of Blacks: "The ape is more capable of being trained than the Negro.” Ibn Khaldun, an early Muslim thinker, writes that Blacks are "only humans who are closer to dumb animals than to rational beings."
Ibn Sina (Avicenna 980–1037), Arab's most famous and influential philosopher/scientist in Islam, described Blacks as “people who are by their very nature slaves.” He wrote: “All African women are prostitutes, and the whole race of African men are abeed (slave) stock.” He equated Black people with “rats plaguing the earth.” Ibn Khaldum, an Arab historian stated that “Blacks are characterized by levity and excitability and great emotionalism,” adding that “they are every where described as stupid.”]
just a sample:
Muslim Black slavery – Islam slave history of Black Africa
Truth Of Slavery
Modern Day Slaves – Niger
Slavery of Black Muslim Africans in Modern
Arab Muslim Country for 800 years
Slave Trading – Sudan
how many BLACKS are being enslaved and starved to death while you & yours spend millions of US tax dollars building mosques around the globe & PARTY HEARTY Mr. “AFRICAN” President??
WHY DO WE HAVE A UN & A US RUN BY ISLAMISTS??
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No Man commented:
Some Enlightenment dude, I think his name was Rouseau, said, “I may not agree with what you say. But I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
That was before France decrepidated itself into a nation of surrender monkeys and America was denuded of liberty.
Say goodbye to the Enlightenment.
You are about to encounter a dark age.
aprilnovember811 commented:
Two words for Obama, SHUT UP! Our own military burned bibles in Afghanistan last year. Why?
KR commented:
Drudge headline: Burning Called Off
http://www.drudgereport.com/
“Pastor Terry Jones said Thursday that he decided to cancel his protest because the leader of a planned Islamic Center near ground zero has agreed to move its controversial location. The agreement couldn’t be immediately confirmed.”
Veryconcerned commented:
Watch his bow to the “other” king, the enthusiasm and commitment to the bow says it all.
John commented:
Well, moving the mosque sure would be a nice thing.
John commented:
Respect the handle bar mustache….
KR commented:
Trump makes offer to buy out one developer:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/09/trump-offers-to-buy-out-thug-developer-of-islamic-supremacist-ground-zero-mosque.html
bg commented:
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befuddled @ 2:45 pm #58
re: [they burn Christians]
just a sample of the madness that is the Koran..
Christian pastor and wife burned to death by Muslims
MUSLIMS BURN CHRISTIANS ALIVE
aprilnovember811 @ 3:15 pm #64
“There is no need to burn the Bibles. [.] “Just imagine if we, the same [the] United States military, were to take a bunch of Korans and burn them. I can imagine the ramifications across the world.”
Terror czar deserves honorary membership in the Muslim Brotherhood
ISLAMISM IS A ONE WAY STREET, so get
with the (fitb) programs direction already!!
[for siome reason i don't believe that would have happened under
Bush, or any other president that preceded him for that matter..]
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Blue Collar Todd commented:
And he has still to utter a word about the number of Christians being killed by Muslims, particularly in Indonesia.
http://www.bluecollarphilosophy.com/2010/09/obama-speaks-out-against-koran-burning.html
So does this mean he values the Koran, a book, more than the life of Christians?
Swifty commented:
Pastor cancels burning, says mosque moving
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39074573/ns/politics-white_house/?GT1=43001
So, he would believe someone who finds it acceptable to outright lie to an infidel?
bg commented:
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Andreas K. @ 11:35 am #3
re: [Mein Kampf]
flashback:
NAZIS, COMMUNISTS, ARAB NATIONALIST TERRORISTS:
ONE CAMP, ONE KAMPF
[It is needless to elaborate on the similarities with post-1948, pro-Arab, pro-PLO propaganda. More recently, Marxist-Leninist anti-imperialist rhetoric has been extended beyond supposedly this-worldly Arab nationalism. Comrade "Carlos," whose ravings at his recent trial in France merely added color to confirm his common ground with Genoud, spread his revolutionary abrazo over the fanatic Islamist movements (in his letter to Genoud).
"Our materialistic conception of the World did not prevent us from seen [= seeing; error in Carlos' original], years ago, that a new kind of militant, the Islamic Revolutionist has joined the vanguard of Revolution, of which he now is the spear-head.
“This new state of affairs was not accepted by most
fellow revolutionaries at the time, out of dogmatism.”
Genoud died in June 1996 and Carlos was convicted of murder in a French court in December 1997. However, “the Islamic Revolutionist” is now leaving his own trail of blood along the track trod by Hitler and Husseini. Can the Communist Left today be seen as other than a partner in the mortal threats hanging over humanity and civilization?]
flashforward:
IslaMarxism
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unknown jane commented:
One should always try and look for opportunity, even when bad things are about.
Obama has given the conservatives yet another point of attack — he has supported First Amendment rights for the mosque, but not for the pastor. He has (again) shown favoritism towards a group that many suspect are his cronies and (again) shown little concern for the feelings of his countrymen. And in light of the Muslim protests and Rauf’s threats, he has also shown weakness (again).
Is the RNC getting all of this down? I hope so — this should be added to the mountain of evidence with which to topple him…and take the Democrats down with him. Now, if only some serious hammering at the edifice would take place…
Andreas K. commented:
The pastor cancelling means that islamo-fascist threats have defeated freedom of speech. Once again.
Islam 1 – Freedom 0
Andreas K. commented:
Let me add, I think the pastor is a nutjob, same with those Westboro guys. They are friggin’ nuts.
But in a free society with democratic values you have the right to be stupid.
bg commented:
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re: bg #73
Hitler, The Mufti Of Jerusalem And Modern Islamo Nazism
Obama NWO
[In 1933 the German establishment thought it could use Hitler to restore a modicum of order to the confused and confusing Weimar Republic. In fact, Hitler did strengthen the German establishment, but not exactly in the way the bankers and businessmen had wanted; and now, fifty years later, it is clear who was using whom. Nevertheless, the Western World did not complain in 1933 because Hitler, though a fascist and a totalitarian, was seen, like countless American puppet dictators today, as someone who leaves the established order in place.]
Young Obama Wrote Article Blaming
America For ‘Growing Threat of War’
[If Obama still has this sensibility, he could be poised to take American foreign policy sharply to the left, notwithstanding the centrist foreign policy team he has assembled. Moreover, since Obama didn’t recognize the Soviet menace during the Cold War and blamed the possibility of war entirely on the United States, there’s good reason to think that today he could lack the moral clarity needed to fight radical Islam.]
for all intent & purpose, in my humble opinion,
Obama’s goal is to correct their “mistakes”..
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bg commented:
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Andreas K. @ 4:21 pm #75
eh, they made him an offer he couldn’t refuse,
ergo, he lives to fight the battle another day..
at any rate..
Obama has a head start in the silencing of the lambs..
[On October 1, 2009, the Obama administration in conjunction with the Egyptian government, introduced an anti-free speech measure to the United Nation’s Human Rights Council (HRC). It was adopted the next
day without a vote.]
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bg commented:
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Andreas K. @ 4:23 pm #77
speaking of “stupid”..
Obama was not only selected to be president right under our noses (yes, i still believe McCain was in on it, sorry), but he’s still the Oval Office, ergo, where do Americans register on the that scale?? /sarc/
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squeaky commented:
One ought never to turn one’s back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half.
Winston Churchill
Palinfan commented:
Barack is an America-hating, Marxist, Muslim with a very mysterious past.
S. Wolf commented:
bg #78
re ‘their “mistakes”’
From that link…
‘In 1971 the self-appointed President of Pakistan and Commander-in-Chief of the Army, General Agha Mohammed Yahya Khan and his top generals prepared a careful and systematic military, economic, and political operation in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh). They also planned to murder its Bengali intellectual, cultural, and political elite. They also planned to indiscriminately murder hundreds of thousands of its Hindus and drive the rest into India. And they planned to destroy its economic base to insure that it would be subordinate to West Pakistan for at least a generation to come. This despicable and cutthroat plan was outright genocide.
After a well organized military buildup in East Pakistan the military launched its campaign. No more than 267 days later they had succeeded in killing perhaps 1,500,000 people, created 10,000,000 refugees who had fled to India, provoked a war with India, incited a counter-genocide of 150,000 non-Bengalis, and lost East Pakistan.’
Statistics Of Pakistan’s Democide
The same country Zero visited and where his putative mother worked. Sounds familiar, ruining the economy that is. And isn’t it ironic the site is hawaii.edu?
#80
‘where do Americans register on the that scale’
Interactive Quiz: How Progressive Are You?
I’m VERY conservative.
bg commented:
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S. Wolf @10:17 pm #83
scary unfathomable, but true non the less, stuff.. *sigh*
the folowing, via the home page,
reminded me of B Hussein O….:
Pray tell, my brother,
Why do dictators kill
and make war?
Is it for glory; for things,
for beliefs, for hatred,
for power?
Yes, but more,
because they can.
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Chris Clinkinbeard commented:
Big surprise? “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” -Barack Hussein Obama.
Jim commented:
I wish someone would consider the difference between book burning as censorship and book burning as a form of protest. I’m against book burning as censorship. This is not censorship; this is protest. This pastor is not denying a library, school, church, or damn mosque of their books. He owns the books, he has property rights to them, and unless he violates local burn ordnance, he can burn the damn quran things. Obama should support the pastor’s rights even if he doesn’t support the wisdom of his actions just as he supposedly did for the damn mosque.
Denny commented:
( I do NOT support Qur’an burning, but I also do NOT support censorship! )
Political correctness is not tolerance, it is censorship of individuality.
I do not support illegal attacks on any religion, or anti-religion, nor do i support the mental disorder of political correctness. Marilyn Manson can rip up Bible’s, and half of America would agree that though that is disrespectful, it is his constitutional right, but Wacky right wing fundamentalists can’t burn Qur’ans. It doesn’t matter what religion you are for or what religion you are against, as long as you are not discriminating or in violation of another persons human rights. Those who are offended can use their constitutional right to voice their opposition. Our constitution is based on liberty, not protection from being offended. Violence and intolerance has tried to separate the colors, while political correctness intends to make all colors one color. We should be neither separated or one. Rather, we should flow as many colors in one spectrum, having the intelligence to recognize the difference, and the wisdom of tolerance & understanding, as well as the recognition of all rights.
Obama says that burning Qur’an would put our troops in danger, yes burning a book, would threaten the citizens of our nation. Sounds to me that the real danger and threat is coming from people who retaliate with terrorism over a burnt book. Sounds a bit more extremist than the ones actually doing the burning. Obama also said that America was founded on the notions of religious tolerance. Did he forget we were also founded on freedom of expression & the right to protest and offend. Offending a group only becomes a violation to the constitution when one decides to cross the boundaries by taking the other parties constitutional rights away from them.
Women commented:
What? If an American imam decided to hold a bible burning there most certainly would be an outcry and an increase in anti-Muslim incidents in the U.S.! No, perhaps not a fear of widespread extremist violence, but no one is saying there is a fear of widespread violence by Americans of Muslim faith but rather by violent extremists in violent countries where we have service men and women. There are violent extremist Christians too (remember Bosnia, Lebanon??). In general when at war with extremists (whatever their religion), it would seem prudent not to encourage juvenile demonstrations that inflame tempers.
Stephanie Mcnealy