Will the State-Run Media Mention Tonight That Obama Endorsed Genocide Over Victory in Iraq?
Posted by Jim Hoft on Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 10:38 AM
How many US presidents endorsed genocide for an entire country over victory at war?
Back in 2007 Barack Obama made a stunning admission during a campaign stop. The democratic hopeful endorsed genocide over continuing our military campaign in Iraq.
Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama said Thursday the United States cannot use its military to solve humanitarian problems and that preventing a potential genocide in Iraq isn’t a good enough reason to keep U.S. forces there.
45% of Iraq’s 27,500,000 people are below the age of 14.
Or, around 12,375,000 children.
Fortunately, Obama did not get his way.
Of course, this hideous statement by Barack Obama has been buried by the democratic-media complex.
Tonight, when Barack Obama takes credit for the success in Iraq, for a surge that he opposed and for a withdrawal that was agreed upon before he came into office, don’t forget that this president also suggested that genocide would be a better option than victory.
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Stuart commented:
Obama sounds like the hard core isolationist elements who were prominent just prior to Dec 7, 41. One might excuse them their blindness, to the Nazi threat given Americas natural defenses, and the fact that the death camps were yet to be built. Obama has no such excuses.
Granny commented:
I feel that I need to add a qualifier to your statement that “Fortunately, he did not get his way”. YET needs to be added to that. I don’t really see anything in Iraq that truly looks like “victory” on more than a temporary basis and we made the mistake from the get go of allowing a constitution and government based in sharia “law”. I don’t think we’ll be seeing the kind of nation building that we did so successfully in Japan.
Even so, Obama really should be doing more than introducing President Bush tonight because however fleeting it may be, this is President Bush’s victory. TheWon had nothing to do with it.
Granny commented:
Please go read a bit of history. While Sobibor was not built until 1942, certainly hundreds of concentration camps were in operation in Hitler’s Europe long, long before December 7, 1941.
Dachau was opened in 1933 and Buchenwald in 1937. Long before the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, the Nazis had annexed Austria and Czechoslovakia, overrun Poland and blitz-bombed London.
Certainly Obama has no excuse – but the liberals/socialists of the thirties had no excuses either.
Swifty commented:
He thinks the voters will have amnesia. Look over there! How about that great economy?
Obama thinks that he can run the okey-doke on you. Bamboozle you.
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NeoKong commented:
The media and the lefties called that war “Bush’s war” more times than I can count.
Let’s see if Obama has the gall to take credit for a war he wanted to fail.
I hope he does.
Stuart commented:
Granny #3
You are indeed correct as to your dates.
However in 1941 few outside of Germany knew the ultimate use that these camps were to be put to.
As far as the average American knew they were only prisons, essentially no different from Sing Sing or Alcatraz.
The Wansee Conference where the whole mechanism for industrial scale murder was planned did not take place until a week or two after Pearl Harbor. Dec, 7 was literally the death knell of American isolationism.
So the culpability of the American isolationists is a debatable point.
bill-tb commented:
Our dear reader doesn’t think. I think the problem comes from the nose in air attitude. Or possibly looking up at umbrellas in the rain.
Granny commented:
Stuart, that is touch-feely crappola that people use to try to excuse themselves. People DID know. Jews tried desperately to get out of Germany as early as 1933. And people in the US knew that – we turned them away by the thousands, including at least one old leaky boat full of desperate refugees. It was in the NY Times, though admittedly on page D56 under the want ads. Kristallnacht made headline around the world. Regular, average Americans DID know – they just tried to pretend that they didn’t or worse, didn’t care.
BTW, Pearl Harbor really was just a convenient excuse. We had military in Britain long before that and they were not mere observers. Our navy was guarding convoys to Europe before then too. We were much more involved than was ever made public at the time and much of that is still classified.
As an example, one of the things that my Dad did during WWII was help to deliver airplanes to Malta – and it was quite a thrilling tale. I tried for decades to get him to write about it, because he was a great story teller and a good writer. He always refused because it “wasn’t in the history books yet.” Finally made it to the history books ~15 years ago. Luckily I got his first-hand testimony on video, because he was one of the few people involved in that who lived to tell the tale. His ship went down at Guadalcanal.
neomom commented:
He will take credit for all of it. That’s who he is. That picture of him makes me crazy. I want him to go away and never return.
IOpian commented:
What you WILL hear repeated is the term ‘unpopular war’ to emphasize the leftist worldview.
Militant Conservative commented:
He’s a narcissist it’s a no brainer. All good is created by him. All mistakes
are due to someone else. Classic
non leader. Classic ghetto think.
Powder is dry
Ang commented:
OT but Granny do you know what post it was yesterday that you put the history lesson on? Ithought I copied and pasted it to my email but I dont have it. Regarding the shores of Tripoli. I have read that before and I wanted to send that out. Thank you.
Granny commented:
Here it is Ang -
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August 30th, 2010 | 10:27 am | #17
Yesterday I went out shopping. While I was out I picked up a new (at least to me) Clive Cussler – Corsair. Corsair begins with a bit of mostly true history – the story of the Shores of Tripoli, the burning of the captured USS Philadelphia by the crew of the Intrepid to keep it out of the hands of the muslim pirates from North Africa who had captured it.
I suppose you would like to know why I’m telling you this. Here’s why:
The United States Marines earned that line in their hymn about the Shores of Tripoli in the first war that United States of America ever fought as a nation, the war against the Barbary Pirates of North Africa.
The Barbary Pirates raided all across the Mediterranean and along the coast of Europe as far north as Ireland for hundreds of years. In order to keep their shipping out of the hands of the muslims of North Africa, the European states all paid jizyah to the various sultans and chiefs who demanded it. Until the Revolution, United States vessels were covered by the jizyah paid by Britain. When we became a nation, that ended. To protect our shipping and keep our citizens out of slavery at the hands of the Barbary Pirates, our early presidents paid a jizyah too – to the tune of a million dollars a year. Until Thomas Jefferson came along.
Starting in 1803, Jefferson refused to pay – and so the Barbary Pirates went after US ships wherever they could find them, capturing our ships, enslaving the crews and passengers. Jefferson would not allow that. And so, the United States of America built the first fledgling Navy, specifically to deal with the Barbary Pirates. Two of those ships are still part of the US Naval Fleet – the USS Constellation and the USS Constitution.
I’ve not been lucky enough to have the opportunity to walk the decks of the Constellation as my dad did in his first days in the Navy, but I’ve visited the Constitution many times. The Constitution is the oldest ship in our arsenal. It lies at anchor in Boston Harbor and once or twice a year the crew takes it out for a spin.
If I had the time I would tell you of the long & honorable history of the USS Constitution. I would detail the history of that little fleet. When you hear about our “collective white guilt” over slavery, bear in mind the USS Constitution and her sister ships, deployed for decades off the coast of Africa, stopping slave ships from their earliest days, freeing the enslaved and settling them in freedom in the nation of Liberia – a nation founded and funded by white Americans.
So, why am I telling you this on a thread about a Victory Mosque to be built on the site of 911? Because there is another mosque – one that has been mostly overlooked. Several years ago a group in Boston acquired by rather underhanded means a huge tract of property in downtown Boston on which they are building what is to be one of the largest mosques in the world. Boston is not anywhere close to as large as you might think it is. The mosque being built in Boston will tower over the USS Constitution – and will be visible from her decks. You don’t need to understand much symbolism to understand that this towering mosque looming over the decks of the most visible symbol of our early victory is in fact an in your face Victory mosque.
In 1786 Thomas Jefferson testified to the Continental Congress explaining what the Barbary ambassador to England had given him as justification for the pirating of ships of the Christian nations of Europe & America -
… that it is founded on the Laws of their Prophe, that it is written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it is their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Musselman who should be slain in Battle are sure to go to Paradise
John Adams was clearer -
We ought not to fight them at all unless we determine to fight them forever
Make no mistake: Ellis use of the Jefferson koran during his swearing in ceremony, the Boston mosque looming over the USS Constitution, the Cordoba mosque on Ground Zero – these are all nothing less than symbols of victory.
http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/08/obama-stands-by-ground-zero-victory-mosque-support-video/
Ang commented:
OT Thank you Granny. My Father was a history teacher who would be rolling over in his Grave right now watching this Pres. I lost him 3 yrs ago and lost my Grandmother almost a year ago. I appreciate your wisdom and history lessons more than you can know.
Opus #6 commented:
Sociopaths aren’t known for their empathy toward others.
Stuart commented:
Granny: #8
I would love to read about your father’s experiences delivering aircraft to Malta.
It puts me in mind of a certain Master Sergeant I met in transit to Viet Nam. He informed me that it was his second V N tour. Where were you stationed the first time I asked.
Hanoi.
Hanoi?
Were you a POW?
No, just delivering surplus fighter planes to the French back in 1946.
Granny commented:
You’re welcome Ang. Anytime. I lost my Dad last year too. I really wish I had gotten more of his stories on video – he saw SO much.
Andreas K. commented:
What concentration camps were used for was widely known. It’s safe to assume that people knew. Long before the war in Europe started thousands of people had already disappeared into the camps. And many had been released as well, because in the beginning the whole idea of the concentration camps was that of, yes, re-education camps. There were plenty of political prisoners.
When they started shipping out the Jews, it was also very clear where the transports would go and what would happen to the people.
Soldiers from the Eastern front were witness of the massacres and sometimes even took part in them.
One of the important members of the resistance group White Rose in Munich was such a soldier.
And soldiers would eventually return home. They would talk about what they had seen.
Besides… Hitler’s Mein Kampf states clearly that the Jews are not wanted. Plus the daily violence against them. Nobody can tell me that they didn’t know somewhere in the back of their heads, especially not those who lived near camps on “Reich” territory.
The camp in Mauthausen, for example, was famous for the so called “Mühlviertler Hasenjagd”, the rabbit hunt of the Mühlviertel. Mauthausen and its satellite camps had a lot of Soviet POWs. One night many of them managed to escape. It was a daring assault on the fences and walls. Many died there already. But some made it out. SS and GESTAPO then recruited locals to help them on the hunt. Farmers, Hitler Youth kids, soldiers on R&R, everybody in the area was involved.
They hunted the POWs like rabbits.
I know of a town in Germany, where, during the final days, a wagon with camp inmates was parked on the tracks and people in that small town weren’t sure what to do. The guards had simply abandoned the wagon.
The story has no happy ending. The people of the town, eventually, decided that the wagon with the camp inmates was bad for them, so they didn’t free them, but rolled the wagon away until it would go downhill on the tracks…
A large scale of the population knew it. They just ignored it, turned a blind eye to it.
And if somebody would have dared to speak about it, well…
John Rabe is a good example, albeit not for the concentration camps. Rabe was in Nanking during the massacre, the so called Rape of Nanking (which even the CO of the Japanese army in the area, general Matsui, called “dishonorable and shameful.”) He and the local Americans (oh dear) and British, literally a handful of foreigners, set up the international safety zones and with that saved thousands of lives (today’s libs would call this “America imperialism”.)
When Rabe came back, he tried to tell Germany about what he had seen. He was picked up by the GESTAPO and they told him: if you say just one word, it will be very “uncomfortable” for you.
He said nothing in the end, because he feared for his life and the lives of his family.
Pearl Harbor was convenient, and certainly not a surprise. Sorry, I’m not talking about how FDR knew beforehand and let them attack, no, that’s BS. But if one had watched Japan in those days, one could observe a clear direction into the Pacific. For example, for years children in school had been indoctrinated that Japan was entangled in the so called “ABCD Encirclement”, which was strangling Japan to death. A for America. B for British. C for China and D for the Dutch. The children were also taught that this “encirclement” had to be broken. Plus there was this war in China, which was eating up more resources than the whole war in the Pacific would for Japan. Thus the leadership of Japan decided they had to capture the resources in the Pacific. Smart, hu? They already had a war that locked up more than 1 million soldiers at their hands, a war that was impossible to win simply because China was (and still is) so big, and they decided to start ANOTHER war against pretty much everyone who was sitting in the Pacific. Very smart people! Not.
And in the end these bastards had soldiers give hand grenades to 14, 15, 16 year old schoolgirls on Okinawa so that they could kill themselves better, while many of these so called “leaders” survived the war itself (including Tojo, who had sent the cream of Japan’s youth to the slaughterhouse -many of the “kamikaze” pilots were students, bright guys who could read Kant, Tolstoy, Descartes, etc, in their original languages, their reading lists were incredible; I’ve read several of the diaries they left behind and whenever I think of it I just want to dig out Tojo’s bones and bash them-, who told them that life was lighter than a feather, that they had to die for their god-emperor, that cowardly piece of sh*t initially survived the war.)
One last note: the order to murder the POWs in Nanking came from General Asaka, also known as Prince Asaka, an uncle of emperor Hirohito. He was never put on trial for this. And the order itself was based on another order that Hirohito signed himself some time earlier. That order stated that Chinese POWs shall be murdered. Hirohito was also never put on trial. General Matsui was put on trial and executed, despite the fact that even Chinese historians today say that Matsui was innocent, as he wasn’t even in Nanking when it all began. Fact is, when Matsui returned to the army, the violence came to a halt. He was the scapegoat because thanks to MacArthur’s “wisdom”, the imperial family was absolved of their crimes. Same with the leaders of unit 731, btw. They all walked as well.
Stuart commented:
Andreas K, Granny.
Thanks for the feedback I learned a lot.
Unfortunately this is not the forum for long discussions. I would truly love a face to face with both of you over a glass of Glen Livet single malt.
soylent green commented:
Funny what a couple of years make. Remember when we’d *have* to watch The One on t.v. even if we all knew he was full of crap? He was must-see t.v. for friend and foe alike.
Now he is so over-exposed, and lost so much ground, that I imagine most of us won’t watch. He will give a self-aggrandizing speech, full of “I”s and “me”s … and no one will care. No one will watch.
Time to put a fork in Obama. He’s done. (FYI – the ‘fork’ thing is a political metaphor, I do not endorse the placement of a real fork in Obama and I promise i will never appear at a presidential appearance with a real fork. Honest injun – sporks for me only!)
soylent green commented:
# 23 … how about a nice single-barrel bourbon from Kentucky? We should boycot all products of Scotland (and gosh it breaks my heart – I love their wools and liquor) until they force Libya to return the Lockerbie bomber.
e pearse commented:
At Robbing America they anticipated over a week ago what was coming on Iraq and they take Obama to task with a humorous and serious graphic commentary called “A Tale Of Two Mouths”.
Short but to the point at http://www.robbingamerica.com