Nuts… DNC Chair Kaine: If Ground Zero Mosque Was a "Synagogue or Church There Would Be No Controversy" (Video)
Posted by Jim Hoft on Friday, August 20, 2010, 4:22 AM
Democrat National Committee Chair Tim Kaine told Andrea Mitchell Thursday that if the Ground Zero Victory Mosque was a “synagogue or church” there would be no controversy. Kaine then went on to blather something about no controversy can be made with Islam. He was reacting to former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s opposition to the Victory Mosque at Ground Zero.
Video via Freedom’s Lighthouse:
Actually, Kaine is not only goofy, he’s wrong.
New York officials recently killed plans to rebuild a Greek Orthodox Church near Ground Zero that was destoyed on 9-11.
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Subadar Lal Kukhri commented:
That’s because 1,000,000,000 Christians and Jews are not out to massacre or enslave (dhimmi, sharia) non-Christians and non-Jews.
TWoPolitics commented:
If the Ground Zero Victory Mosque was a “synagogue or church” there would be no controversy.
Correct. It was not Jews or Christians that took down the Twin Towers.
The real danger to this country are Democrat extremists.
ahem commented:
Is ever Democrat totally, completely, stupid? I guess so.
Mark Adams commented:
And this is the party running this country.
Was it extremist Jews or extremist Christian that flew planes loaded with people in to the Twin Towers…. Hello, McFly is anyone home?
neomom commented:
For an educated Man, allegedly educated, oh and allegedly a man, that is the stupidest non-sensical argument ever. That is really just another talking or screaming point for the uneducated masses. This would be in the same arena as Bush lied, no blood for oil, etc.
squeaky commented:
do you think a mega church or synagogue would ruffle feathers. i’m sure it would be viewed as an affront to the sensitivities of some group. would a 15 floor mosque
qualify as mega mosque since we’re not talking about a 3 story building. and remember this guy………. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Abdel_Rahman
i think it was in”1000 years for revenge” that it was said that when sheik abdel-rahman came to nyc the first thing they did was boot the moderates.
nadadhimmi commented:
Yep, no controversy for rebuilding a Christian Church because the Christian Church was DENIED a rebuilding permit by the discriminatory asshats in NYC. Simply denied! As in, NOT ALLOWED. Controversy??? What controversy? Bow to Mecca you infidels!
kate commented:
There would be no controversy because it wouldn’t be allowed.
Andreas K. commented:
Maybe a church or a synagogue wouldn’t be a bad idea. And yes, there wouldn’t be such resistance.
Because it was mohammedans who did 9-11, not Christians, not Jews. It was mohammedans following the orders coming from Mohammed himself: kill infidels. The koran demands so. Kill infidels.
Also mosques aren’t mere houses of prayer like churches or synagogues. Mosques are symbols of conquest. Like a dog pissing to mark his territory.
neomom commented:
AK #9. Like a dog pissing to mark his territory.
That’s the best description of that Mosque I have ever heard.
DougO commented:
Wait wait… that thing is not only a Mosque… it is called the “VICTORY” Mosque??? WTH?
katy commented:
He’s right. There wouldn’t be a controversy because no Christian or Jewish group would be arrogant, stupid and unethical enough to even consider it!!
But of course this point never occurs to the brain dead A-moral left!
bill-tb commented:
He is right, but the Jooose didn’t attack the site, did they? And Islamic radicals did, in the name of their religion, Islam.
And not to pick on the Joooses, the Baptists didn’t attack the WTC either.
Even and idiot should know how to reason that out … I am sure liberals if they try really really hard MAY be able to figure out what the problem is.
Khan Krum commented:
Let us take a minute and thank God for our enemies! What did we do to deserve all this good luck with regard to the Ground Zero Victory Mosque?! Al-Bama, Bela Pelosi, Kaine and other Democrat Socialist Workers’ Party Central Committee members are all lining up on the side that they’re actually on, defining their positions vis-a-vis the American people. This is wonderful and I hope they keep it up.
And yes, the analogy of the Ground Zero Victory Mosque and a dog pissing to mark its territory is priceless!
No Man commented:
The mosque’s Arabic name is: “Muhammed Atta Memorial Trophy.”
It’s time to hold the filthy, liberal traitors accountable.
See you in November. Pay-back is a bitch.
IOpian commented:
There would have been no controversy building a mosque at that site had islamic fanatics not flown two planes into the towers is a more accurate way of framing the issue.
LL commented:
If we all would convert to Islam (as called for by Mohammad) there would be no need for churches or synagogues and the world would be at peace…
KR commented:
Let’s propose to put a church and synagogue two blocks from Mecca and see if there is any protest from the ME peoples.
Ginger commented:
I think that it is past time to deport a lot of illegal muslims out of this country!
Granny commented:
No, we certainly wouldn’t be having this discussion. After all, the congregation of the Greek Orthodox Church that was completely destroyed when one of the towers fell on it has been delayed, denied, given the run around and ignored for nine straight years in their attempts to rebuild their destroyed property and have only just last week learned that it isn’t happening from reporters. The powers that be didn’t even have the courtesy to deliver the message in person.
But then the PTB have made great inroads in denying both the Christian and Jewish religion even a modicum of respect in recent years.
Trencherbone commented:
As well as next month’s anniversary of 9/11, there’s a more imminent though lesser known Islamic anniversary – the murderous child-rape orgy at Beslan in early September 2004.
Muslim terrorists killed and tortured countless victims. Young girls were raped with gun barrels and other objects. Children were forced to drink their own urine before being executed. And to make matters worse, the MSM tried to cover up all Islamic involvement, and have done so ever since.
Both anniversaries provide grim but necessary ‘teaching moments’ to educate the American people about Islam. We owe it to the victims to tell the truth and clear through the Islamic lies.
The 9/11 attack wasn’t an abberation caused by ‘militants’ who had hijacked the ‘peaceful religion’ of Islam. The attack was a direct consequence of standard Islamic teaching on the need to kill Harbis.
Terrorism and intimidation are essential features of Islam without which it cannot survive.
Similarly, the sadism and pedophilia of Beslan stem directly from the example set by the ‘Perfect Man’, the murdering, child-raping false prophet Mohammed.
In commemorating these anniversaries, we need to avoid just preaching to choir. We need to copy the tactics of the jihadists with their mosques in every town and ‘Think Globally, Act Locally’.
The blogosphere is fine for communicating globally with other Islamically Aware bloggers, but to reach the bulk of the people we also need to use local forums, online local news media, social networks etc.
All necessary information is HERE – http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/everything-you-need-to-know-about-islam.html – Go forth and multiply it!
bg commented:
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Government Outreach with Terror-tied Mosque Continues
[The State Department wants its next wave of diplomats
to learn what Muslims in other countries think of America.
To do that, it is sending a class to Anwar al-Awlaki's former mosque in Falls Church, Va. this Sunday, the Investigative Project on Terrorism has learned.
As we reported Tuesday, federal law enforcement officials view the Dar al-Hijrah mosque as home to Hamas operatives and others linked to terrorist financing and "bad orgs." In addition, it was home for two years to Awlaki, a charismatic, American-born cleric now living in Yemen. He is considered to have been inspirational to the accused Fort Hood shooter Nidal Malik Hasan, failed airplane bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab and Times Square bomber Faizal Shahzad. As a result, he may be the only American the CIA is authorized by the President to kill.
Awlaki has been gone for eight years, and mosque leadership publicly disavows him, but Alwaki's radical preaching was well established during
his time there.
The 9/11 Commission Report found that Awlaki knew two of the hijackers and that one, Nawaf al-Hamzi, followed Awlaki from San Diego to Virginia in early 2001, "an appearance that may not have been coincidental."
[..]
That didn’t stop the General Services Administration from signing
a two-year, $582,000 lease with the mosque for a Census office.
U.S. Rep. John Carter, whose district includes Fort Hood,
issued a release Thursday calling for the lease to be severed:
“The purpose for creating this cabinet-level agency [Homeland Security] in 2002 was to coordinate all agencies of the federal government to prevent any more radical Islamic attacks like 9-11. Eight years later and they can’t even tell a federal agency they’re renting office space from the very mosque involved with the 9-11 attacks, and that has seeded this past year’s assaults through the likes of Al-Awlaki.”]
Democrat congressmen ‘trashed their oath to protect U.S.’
["While brave young Virginia men and women are risking their lives to fight terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan, >b?Connolly, Moran and Kaine are yucking it up with them and slapping each other on the back over at the Marriott,"
He noted that the three politicians' campaign war chests are
heavily funded by radical Islamists who support the mosque.
[..]
“Look at their Federal Election Commission reports,” Lafferty said. “These spineless politicians are owned and operated by the radical Islamists and their sinister front groups.”
Indeed, according to the book, “Muslim Mafia,” Connolly and Moran have received thousands of dollars in donations from several Virginia Islamists under federal investigation for financing terrorism. In addition, the book reveals, Connolly received an $18,758 windfall from the Saudi government’s U.S. public relations firm while fighting to keep open a Saudi-owned madrassa in Northern Virginia also tied to terrorism.
Dar Al-Hijrah hosted at least two of the 9/11 terrorists who attacked the Pentagon, as well as the Fort Hood terrorist and an al-Qaida sleeper agent convicted of plotting to assassinate President Bush. Ahmed Omar Abu Ali graduated valedictorian from the Saudi madrassa – Islamic Saudi Academy – in Alexandria, Va.
Lafferty says the mosque “has been directed by a string of radical imams, including former imam Anwar al-Awlaki, who has since been identified as
a commander in al-Qaida” and is wanted in connection with the Christmas Day airliner attack.]
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Mats commented:
Hey, Einstein. There would be no controversy bkz Jews and Christians dind’t fly planes against the Twin Towers.
Is this guy fo real?!
oldguy commented:
Do you hear that hissing noise in your ears? The one doctors say is ear damage? It’s really the constant noise of the snake-like hissing of Democrats.
StandUp4Chuck commented:
I continue to be amazed at how these lib-tards can continue to stick up for these radical Islamic types. I hope they understand that as soon as these goons take over, they will be the first ones purged. Islam doesn’t take to kindly to their morality.
bg commented:
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ops re: bg #22
>b?Connolly, Moran and Kaine =
Connolly, Moran and Kaine
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Stanley commented:
LLNo Gravatar
August 20th, 2010 | 7:06 am | #18
If we all would convert to Islam (as called for by Mohammad) there would be no need for churches or synagogues and the world would be at peace…
When pigs fly.
Swifty commented:
I guess we non-Muslims won’t get respect and parity with this administration until we take some Muslim hostages and behead a few.
Stanley commented:
Why? Why must the many religions be exclusive of one another rather than complimentary?One prophet sends Gods Message of surrender and the greater that follows, submission unto God and another sends the Message of Sacrifice and another, Awaken. Many messages but from the same SPIRIT. Who is it that beguiles and clouds the mind of our Oneness? Did not Mohammad reveal that there would be other messengers sent from God besides himself? Is it not true that “The sun will rise from the West.”???
wtd commented:
DougO#11 asks:
Initially called “The Cordoba Initiative” – recalling the good old days of Muslim Spain when dhimmi Jews and Christians knew their place, or else – the planned mosque is now simply identified as Park51 (aka Burlington Coat Factory). So yes, in essence this mosque’s initial identity ‘Cordoba’ identifies it’s intent to instill sharia and plant it’s triumphalist flag at Ground Zero. Imam Feisal Rauf, the chairman of the Cordoba Initiative, also leads the Shariah Index Project. And there are many simultaneous efforts underway at Ground Zero to fulfill Feisal’s dream, which is revealed in his book What is Right with Islam is What’s Right for America,”, however look for the details in it’s Mayalsian translation – “A Call to Prayer from the World Trade Center Rubble: Islamic dawa in the heart of post 9/11 America.” Note Rauf is a key member in the Malaysian-based Perdana Global Peace Organization, the single biggest donor ($366,000 as of June 2010) to the Free Gaza Movement.
Corroboration is visible on a banner posted on the website of the other mosque at Ground Zero, one which Bill Whittle of PJTV, among others, mistakenly identifies as ‘moderate’, Masjid Manhattan
Consider this Fox Report: Company Bidding to Help Manage Ground Zero Tower Has Arab Ties ( http://tinyurl.com/29vnvxq )
Enter sharia compliance enforcements such as:
kansas commented:
There’s always the weak Timothy McVeigh was a Christian and no one says anything about that. Except that the Democrats always do. Everyone remembers McVeigh shouting Praise Jesus before he set off his explosives. Oh wait. They don’t? Plus the feds got McVeigh dead pretty fast considering his work looked pretty middle eastern if not down right Islamic.
kato commented:
It’s amazing how stupid — how absolutely stupid — so many of this country’s elected officials are. Which makes one wonder about how stupid the American public is.
bg commented:
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“WE SHALL NEVER FORGET”
not only didn’t Jews or Christians deliberately murder innocents in the name of their G-d on 9/11, nor make deliberate plans to build a Victory Synagogue or Church to honor their non-existent 9/11 martyrs.. but they also have no set plans to conquer America from within via the recruiting of Soldiers for Allah via a Global Proselytization Project.. not to mention a 9/11 museum dedicated to themselves.. *sigh*
yes, we evidently are that stupid.. i offer you
Obama still being “present” in the WH as proof..
here is a quite long, but must read article that provides
not so pretty answers re: The Mosque at Ground Zero..
Who Is Behind It?
by Salah Uddin Shoaib Choudhury
[The Imam behind the controversial mosque at Ground Zero dreams of Islamizing United States, as exposed in his book, which has two titles:
one in English, and one in Arabic.
In the U.S., his book is called, 'What's Right
with America Is What's right with Islam."
The same book, published in Arabic, bears the title, "The Call from the WTC Rubble: Islamic Da'wah {Proseletism} from the Heart of America Post-9/11."
Here we get exactly the Imam, who is assigned
to "spread Islam right from the WTC rubble."
[..]
According to information, a scholar and charity head appointed to President Obama’s White House Fellowships Commission is closely tied to the Muslim leaders behind this proposed controversial Islamic cultural center to be built near the site of the Sept. 11 attacks. The White House fellow, Vartan Gregorian, is president of Carnegie Corp. of New York.
Gregorian also serves on the board of the Sept. 11 Memorial and Museum. The museum is reportedly working with the American Society for Muslim Advancement, whose leaders are behind the mosque, to ensure the future museum will represent the voices of American Muslims.
“[The Sept. 11 museum will represent the] voices of American Muslims in particular, and it will honor members of other communities who came together in support and collaboration with the Muslim community on September 11 and its aftermath,” stated Daisy Khan, wife of the founder of the society and chairman of the of the Cordoba Initiative, Imam Faidal AbdulRauf Khan, and executive director of the society.
The future Sept. 11 museum’s oral historian, Jenny Pachucki, is collaborating with the society to ensure the perspective of American
Muslims is woven into the overall experience of the museum, according
to the museum’s blog.
[..]
While Imam Faisal is gradually moving ahead with his master plan of constructing the Mecca of Islam in NYC, unknown patrons are continuing to put huge amount of cash in gradually having a strong Islamist grip over world media.
In United Kingdom, newspapers like Islamic Times, The Muslim News, The Muslim Weekly, or radio stations like Radio Apni Awaz, Radio Dawn or TV channels like Islam Channel, Muslim TV are only few examples.
According to information, Muslim “‘entrepreneurs” are gradually buying shares in several news outlets in UK with money received from unknown sources. Hundreds of millions of dollars are flowing into such projects, with the ultimate goal of virtually waging Islamic Jihad over global media.]
Salah Uddin Shoaib Choudhury
Barack Obama Would Let Shoaib Choudhury Die
foreigners no longer come and assimilate themselves to the American way, they come to demand that America not only assimilate to their way, but accommodate & assist them in their struggle to dominate US..
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bg commented:
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wtd @ 9:06 am #31
didn’t see your post before posting mine..
thanks for the additional info..
question is, will all of this “need to know”
info ever come to be public knowledge..
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wtd commented:
Keep at it bg – I noticed your link to “Who is behind it” last week and have been posting it everywhere the GZ topic comes up.
What was it Rahm said? Never waste a crisis?
For once, I agree with him. The Cordoba Initiative is a heinous insult and is being faced with exponentially outraged opposition. Look around, people are discussing this heated topic openly – no longer in whispered corners.
Sojourner commented:
I’d like to hear what blather Kaine would serve up if someone asked his opinion on the 9/11 memorial being funded on the taxpayer dime in Shanksville.
From the air. Crescent shaped….more dogs.. more territory being marked..sickening.
..’911 Hero’s Family Member: “Ground Zero mosque is the SECOND mosque being built on a 9/11 site”:’
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/07/911-hero-family-member-ground-zero-mosque-is-the-second-mosque-being-built-on-a-911-site-.html
bg commented:
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Sojourner @ 10:33 am #37
oh yes, and evidently mums (for Muslims) the word on that too.. *sigh*
[Other mosque features
Mosque design is based on a dozen typical mosque features, every one of which is realized in the Crescent/Circle design, all on the same epic scale as the half mile wide crescent-mihrab. Note, for instance, that the 93 foot tall minaret-like Tower of Voices is topped with another Islamic-shaped crescent, akin to the crescent-topped minarets seen in many Islamic countries:
(Tower of Voices pictured here)
An Islamic shaped crescent, soaring in the sky above the symbolic lives of the 40 heroes, which literally dangle down below. In Islam, there is only heaven and hell. Symbolic damnation?
The Flight 93 mosque needs to be stopped, along with the Islamic victory mosque at ground zero in Manhattan. May the fight against these two desecrations strengthen each other.
Sincerely,
Tom Burnett Senior
Loving father of Flight 93 hero Tom Burnett Junior]
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bg commented:
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wtd @ 10:21 am #36
that’s great, thank you..
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Spike commented:
“That if the Ground Zero Victory Mosque was a “synagogue or church” there would be no controversy” Of course not you F’ng Moron,
No one from a Church or Synagogue bombed the Trade Center
thomas b. commented:
However, if it was Mormon Temple, the left would be protesting to no end.
How ’bout this… when Mormons are allowed to build temples anywhere they please including San Francisco and Seattle, then I’ll support the mosque near ground zero.
Lisa Krempasky Attorney commented:
I’m tired of the Ground Zero Mosque spin. Of course the first amendment protects the government from silencing religious speech. Of course. Even religious speech I don’t agree with. However, that does not require that a building permit be given to anyone at anytime for anything. If the cleric cared about diversity and peace he would take his mosque and move elsewhere. There is no need for it to be there.
AuntieMadder commented:
Stanley
August 20th, 2010 | 9:00 am | #30
It’s obvious you’ve never read the Quran nor do you know anything about Islam other than what the lamestream media and the last two presidents and their administrations have said about it. Everything that Islam teaches, almost every word uttered by MooHamHead (pigsnot be upon him), and every last word spoken by allah to MooHamHead are diametrically opposed to every law and command of the God of the Jews and Christians.
Don’t take my word for it. Read the Quran for yourself. There are English versions available online that can be read at no charge. Search “craig winn quran” and “robert spencer quran” to find two of them.
AuntieMadder commented:
StandUp4Chuck
August 20th, 2010 | 8:08 am | #26
They can’t see past their blinding hatred for America, Christians and Jews long enough to see that they’d hate Muslims and Islam, too. Only difference is that Muslims and Islam would hate them back…and demonstrate that hatred by executing them.
AuntieMadder commented:
Ginger
August 20th, 2010 | 7:43 am | #20
I think that it is past time to deport a lot of illegal muslims out of this country!
The Muslims here illegally is a good place to start.
Xavier commented:
News Corp’s number-two shareholder funded ‘Ground Zero Mosque’ planner
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20100820/bs_yblog_upshot/news-corps-number-two-shareholder-funded-terror-mosque-planner