It's On… Egypt and Sudan Move Forward on "Peaceful" Nuclear Plans
Posted by Jim Hoft on Sunday, August 22, 2010, 8:56 PM
Let the Mideast nuclear arms race begin.
Technicians load the Bushehr nuclear plant this week in Iran. (ISNA)
The news this week that Iran started its Bushehr nuclear reactor provoked two other regional powers to make their own public statements. The Sudanese theocracy was the latest regime to announce they will move forward on their peaceful nuclear reactor.
Israel National News reported:
Sudanese media reported Sunday that officials from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) will visit the country this week to discuss Khartoum’s plans to import a “peaceful nuclear reactor.” The announcement followed a breakthrough in Iran’s nuclear program over the weekend, as engineers began loading fuel rods into the Bushehr reactor.
Sudanese leaders established a nuclear program in early 2010, according to state news agency SUNA, and they plan to build the country’s first nuclear power station in 2020. They say the program is necessary in order to provide electricity to all of the country’s citizens, many of whom live in areas with no electric grid.
Iran’s senior leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said in April that Iran is prepared to help Sudan create a nuclear program by sharing both knowledge and technology. The two countries share close economic and political ties; both are Islamic theocratic states.
Hat Tip K. Solomon
Likewise, Egyptian president Mubarak announced this week that his country will announce plans for their own nuclear plant.
UPI reported:
Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak is preparing to announce plans to construct the country’s first nuclear power plant, an official said.
An unnamed source told the Egyptian newspaper Al Masry-al-Youm Mubarak is likely to name Dabaa as the site for the country’s first nuclear power plant Monday.
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free` commented:
I hope the US is getting in on some of these deals. Why should we be the only nuclear country to not profit off of this proliferation.
down with dems commented:
Elections have consequences, especially when you fall for a cult of personality and put a pansy ass wimp in the White House. That Nobel Peace Prize is going to really look silly when there’s a nuclear war involving one of these newcomers to the nuclear club, facilitated by Dear Leader’s ignorance and impotence.
Everyone who stayed home and didn’t vote in 2008 should be ashamed and worried. Get up, go to the polls, be heard in 2010 and 2012. Your vote does count, and clearly your vote (or lack thereof) makes a difference in the future course of events.
Wading Across commented:
Israel dropped the ball on this one. Whatever their reasoning was for not destroying the Bushehr reactor before the fuel was installed, now the whole region will go nuclear in a Hot War race.
Sudan of course doubtfully wants to go a truly peaceful route completely.
Egypt is of course trying to keep up with the Jones’ and stay in the game in the regional power-play. The potential and probable downside to this is that Mubarak is old and ill, and his succession and thus the stability of Egypt is in question. It’ entirely possible Egypt could slip into at worst, a civil war. At best we’d see a democratic reform government take over, but I don’t believe that’s likely. What could well happen is either an effective continuation of what Mubarak built or a government that’s beholden to the Islamists or a government completely run by Islamist fundamentalists.
If that happens, a nuclear, Islamist Egypt will create a corridor from Libya to Sudan and Somalia, surrounding the Arabian states, Jordan and Israel. Egypt could either sit by as a neutral proxy, passively hostile to Israel, or worse, openly aggresive.
Sudan is trying to become a power player. Egypt is trying to stay relevant.
None of this is good.
Chippy commented:
This is great news. Line up all the islamo kook nations that love sharia law, then blow their nukes up! Thank you Imam Obama. This is gonna turn out better than I thought. We won’t need to use any U. S. Troops. Not only that, somebody has got to tell Charlie Rangel we won’t even need a draft. Cool.
Granny commented:
Wading, Israel did not drop the ball. They were taken out to the woodshed by the DC Regime.
regularguy commented:
Our downfall as a nation is not by what we do, but what we fail to do and simply must.
Kenny Solomon commented:
Sho’ nuff, weez gots us a heap a-trubbel headin’ in from down yonder in the holler.
Best git a rifle or two off the rack ‘n make a few more vittles fer storin’.
Oh….. Wait….. I dun gots all that thar up ‘n goin’ dang near two years back.
I’ll juss’ gwan ‘n git some more ammo fer what’s a-comin’.
Bring it on, ya Moose Limb Quranimals…..
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Kenny Solomon
Everything I need to know about Islam I learned at the age of thirteen on September 5th 1972.
The Elector of Saxony commented:
It’s not Obama, personally, I guess. Any Muslim President of the US would make sure the Islamic nations hostile to Israel went nuclear on his watch. I mean, if Arafat were POTUS, he would have gotten the same result, it’s only natural.
Is there any question now that he is either a dumb ass or a Muslim, but there really isn’t any other option? Or is this that “nuance” we always here about? I thought that word had a meaning other than “dropping the ball”, but oh well. Here comes the 12th Imam!
Wading Across commented:
Yeah, Granny, I just came across that on Debka
Netanyahu wants so badly to play the peace diplomacy game it seems. He’s become yet another politician playing the game.
I liked him better when he was PM the first go-round.
At some point, Israel is going to tell everyone to blow off, screw whatever deals have been made, and attack Iran and/or someone else.
The only way I see a “real” peace (it’ll still be a hudna [temporary]) happening between Israel and its neighbors is when all parties are absolutely against the precipice, have everything to lose and survival to gain. The only way I see a real peace treaty occuring is as the result of a war in the region. Of course, it won’t be the last war, but it’ll be a “real” treaty that will work for a time.
You’re right, Israel got taken to the shed. And willingly I might add. They sold their security for 30 pieces perhaps.
Granny commented:
Wading, I don’t think it was exactly willing. I first noticed this a couple of years ago during the Lebanon conflict. You might remember that the first official pronouncement from Washington came from Condi Rice, who condemned Israel out of hand. Several hours later President Bush made a statement in support of Israel. He seemed to have the upper hand for a couple of weeks. Then all of the sudden things changed. We denied a restock of certain weapons that had already been bought and paid for and refused to deliver jet fuel, among other things. Shortly after that Israel backed down. It seemed to me at the time, though I can’t give you the specifics of exactly why off the top of my head at the minute, that what had been going on down in DC was a war of wills between President Bush and Condi Rice – a war that Condi won. Bush never seemed to be the same to me afterwards. The whole tone of his presidency, and especially his interactions with Israel changed entirely.
And then of course THIS “president” – and I use the term very loosely – has snubbed Netanyahu outrageously, even making him enter and leave the White House through the back door, the servant’s entrance.
I do not think that Netanyahu wants to play the peace diplomacy game. I’m sure at this point that the Israeli’s are all well aware that they trade land and riches for “peace” that means nothing. To this day rockets land every day in Israel, usually as many as they went to war with Lebanon over in the first place. The UN troops that are supposed to be guarding that border are worse than useless, the entire border has been militarized to a far greater extent than they were before.
Truthfully, I think the only reason that they did not take out the Iranian nuke plant is because The Won would have had them shot down.
StrngernFiction commented:
I had a college professor back in the early 90′s who started off his class by making a couple of predictions of important events that would happen in our lifetimes. One was that a nuke would go off in this country.
Unfortunately, I think his prediction will come true, and it is most likely he and his fellow leftards that will have allowed it to happen.
Granny commented:
What were his other predictions StrngernFiction?
donh commented:
I don’t blame Israel for this nuclear proliferation that poses a doom to the entire civilized world. MohamObama would have shot down any attempted airstrikes and the humiliation of Israel would be critically destabilizing. Israel is just going to have to go the Masada route, be without a freind in the world, resist all the coming provokactions, bravely face the pending reality of Armageddon with dignity, and rely on the God of Abraham.
Granny commented:
donh, I don’t blame Israel either. The United States could have stopped this quite some time ago.
kato commented:
Sudan, one of the most backward countries on the planet, will have a nuclear plant before Jivemaster’s lawyers and regulators allow one to be built on U.S. soil.
But we’ll have plenty of money-losing green energy paid for with stolen taxpayer money or charged to our grandchildren and great-grandchildren.
Chippy commented:
Found this granny,
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/israel-and-the-palestinian-territories/090110/us-denied-israel-bunker-busters
Obama was gonna use really tough sanctions on Iran. Not. Instead he sent a video tape of himself to the leadership when he took office.
Granny commented:
Sudan – not only one of the most backward, but home to jihadis, pirates & terrorists and a land that literally cannot feed itself. So, are we supposed to feed them while they take our money to build nuclear weapons?
Meanwhile, The Won is in the process of totally dismantling the US nuclear arsenal.
Granny commented:
Yup, Chippy. And this was not the first time. They had wanted bombs during the Lebanon conflict – that was one of the things turned down. And you might remember they had paid a bundle of money to help develop that new fighter plane with the US, and then the US refused to allow them to put their own electronic package in the ones they had already bought and paid for.
Obama was never going to do anything about this. I think that left to his own devices Bush would have, but whatever it was that happened during that Lebanon War, it was an argument he lost and the ME mess was after that left in the hands of Condi Rice. With a little input here and there from Pelosi – you remember her illegal diplomatic trip I assume?
Chippy commented:
Remember Granny, the socialist libs were threatening Bush of impeachment if Iran was attacked. Look were that got us.
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/33389
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_impeach_George_W._Bush?wasRedirected=true
StrngernFiction commented:
Granny,
I think there were three total, but that is the only one I can remember. It may have imprinted because i agreed with it.
StrngernFiction commented:
Sudan, one of the most backward countries on the planet, will have a nuclear plant before Jivemaster’s lawyers and regulators allow one to be built on U.S. soil.
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I’m trying to embrace the utter absurdity of it all kato.
How many levels back was that Wonderland place?
James commented:
All on obamas watch. The worst president in american history.
Chippy commented:
This is what our Imam, communist president said about a real leader (Bush) in 2008;
In a statement, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., shot across the bow: “It is sad that President Bush would use a speech to the Knesset on the 6Oth anniversary of Israel’s independence to launch a false political attack. It is time to turn the page on eight years of policies that have strengthened Iran and failed to secure America or our ally Israel. Instead of tough talk and no action, we need to do what Kennedy, Nixon and Reagan did and use all elements of American power — including tough, principled, and direct diplomacy – to pressure countries like Iran and Syria. George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists, and the President’s extraordinary politicization of foreign policy and the politics of fear do nothing to secure the American people or our stalwart ally Israel.”
Chippy commented:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/05/obama-takes-iss.html
Freddy commented:
I wonder how long it will be before IRAQ wants nukes too!
Palinfan commented:
Wow! With two more middle eastern countries moving towards nukes, Obama’s gonna have to play more golf games as fast as he can to keep up!
Granny commented:
Guarantee you the Sauds will want them before any of the above. The various other factions have been dying to take control of Mecca away from the House of Saud for nearly 100 years. Nuclear anybody in the ME other than Israel will pretty much guarantee that somebody can.
Granny commented:
The Truth About Obama’s Muslim Faith
Read every word! The author slaughters any notion that The Won is “Christian.” Really takes him to the woodshed.
Wading Across commented:
Granny, Obama’s either an autolater or a closet Muslim. At best, a foolish CINO.
No doubt the Sauds will want nuclear capabilities too, for peaceful and defensive purposes. Between their debt and increasing domestic oil demand – gasoline and energy production – they need nuclear plants to enable more oil to be exported. Saudi Arabia burns a huge chunk of oil to make their electricity!
But yeah, the Saud’s don’t want to let the Iranians get the upper hand.
Apparently there is an Islamic prophecy/belief that eventually Mecca will be destroyed. Also, there is a Christian eschatological interpretation that says Saudi Arabia will get destroyed or at least knocked out of commission. Current events would seem to point in these directions.
bg commented:
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to hell with the millions of enslaved, starved,
slaughtered and diseased Black Africans..
humanitarian NUKES are the #1 priority.. /truth sarc/
please..
remind me..
what is Obama’s “nuclear policy” again??
and i’ll remind you of what Iran’s policy is..
[We have a strategy drawn up for the destruction of Anglo-Saxon civilization... we must make use of everything we have at hand to strike at this front by means of our suicide operations or by means of our missiles. There are 29 sensitive sites in the U.S. and in the West. We have already spied on these sites and we know how we are going to attack them.
[..]
The Americans are not ready to send a million men (to defeat the Islamic Republic),” Abbasi said. “Even economic sanctions against the Islamic Republic will fail thanks to opposition from the Western public opinion and the refusal of most countries to implement (them).]
==
Subadar Lal Khukri commented:
Don’tcha know?
They need nukes so Allah can punish us for not allowing the mosque at the WTC, and paying tribute.
I’m not worried . . .
We have the greatest, honestest, smartest, hopest, changest president and the most incompetent administration of clueless professors, blind liberals, and commies who hate America and are destroying the evil, unjust free market.
I’m not worried. I’m relocating to northern Montana. They may not nuke that.
Terry Gain commented:
Armageddon.
LimoLibsStink commented:
0bama:
Let me be clear. I am working toward a nuclear free world!
Ah, crap! I screwed-up again. Now, there will more nukes world wide.
I suck! Good day.
squeaky commented:
[Being President of the United States is not an episode of "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy," where subtle commentary and snarky remarks produce results. It's more like an episode of "Walker, Texas Ranger," where there are good..]
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/08/the_nogo_mojo_man.html
Subadar Lal Khukri commented:
O: Let me be clear. I am working toward a liberty-free world. Totally!
Iconoclast commented:
It cannot be that zero is so incredibly inept as to allow these things to happen. Granted, it can’t string together a cogent paragraph without a script on the teleprompter, but it just is *NOT* that stupid. This abdication of the responsibilities of office is a studied effort to destroy this nation, or at the very least, render it subordinate to and controlled by interests outside our borders in concert with the traitors / fifth columnists in our midst.
Jean commented:
They have Obama’s blessing to build the plants. That is why Obama went to Egypt last year to give them the green light and let them know he was ‘cool’ with it.
shibumi commented:
Well, I guess that the Sunni and the Shia might be too busy nuking each other to bother with Israel/ US/ Europe/ all other infidels.
There’s that plus I guess….
Jerry C commented:
#34 Terry Gain
Armageddon is not a war but the meeting place of all armies on earth to fight Jesus Christ at His Second Coming. But Psalm 83 & Ezekial 38 & 39 are wars that lead up to Armageddon.
Demascus, Syria destroyed and then those enemies immediately surrounding Israel will be annilated (Lebanon, Gaza, West Bank). Israel will win more land (and resources) that prompts Gog & Magog to the north (Turkey/Russia) to side with Pursia (Iran). Jesus Christ will come back and destroy them. 30 days later, all the armies of the earth will gather at Armageddon to make war with Christ.
unknown jane commented:
Shibumi — you don’t have to be directly nuked to suffer the consequences of a nuclear attack; the fallout is nearly as disasterous as the bomb itself.
When looking at possible attacks, prevailing wind currents need to be taken into consideration — if Israel is attacked, it won’t be the only country getting effected. This is one of the reasons why Iran getting nuclear capablity, and their saber rattling towards Israel is so destablizing….and why we should have put a stop to it.
Wading Across commented:
Jerry@41, I urge you to read the battle of Armageddon laid out in Revelation and compare it to Ps. 83 and Ez. 38/39.
I believe they are all one battle, Armageddon. The reason being, Ez. 39 says that after the battle of Gog & Magog, Israel will forever after live in peace and worship God. Also, you have many of the same aggressors in 83/38/39 showing up in Rev. … how would they be able to recoup so quickly?
This idea, that there is no gog/magog war prior to Armageddon is not a new interpretation/theory.
This is also not to say that I don’t believe war won’t be a precursor to “peace” and a treaty. I believe there will be a war and a peace treaty. However, I don’t believe it’ll line up exactly along Ps. 83 and Ez. 38/39, therefore many who’re trying to look for specific signs will gloss over it.
Stuart commented:
Aw, why shouldn’t Egypt and Sudan have Nukes? Isn’t it the right of all nations to have them? I think they should. But that’s just me. You all probably think differently…Ya bigots. Well I got to go now. I’m going to give the thirteen year old kid next door his birthday present, a bottle of Scotch and the keys to my new Corvette.