The poor little unhinged leftists had their panties in a bunch today after Sarah Palin confronted a far left loon for her rude and aggressive sign in Homer, Alaska.

The leftists were outraged that Sarah Palin had the nerve to confront this angry “teacher.” Teachers should be respected.

It’s just too bad she’s not a teacher.
Kathleen Gustafson is a singer in a drag queen band.

(HOMER TRIBUNE/Randi Somers) – Director Kathleen Gustafson (left) steps in to provide harmony as Hedwig (Atz Lee Kilcher) polishes up his performance at Pier One on Aug. 28.

Kathleen Guftafson is not a teacher. She’s a theater tech… And a liar.

You just can’t make this stuff up.

UPDATE: The Palin-haters now claim that “theater tech” is the name of some class they teach in Alaska.
Sure it is… Keep spinning libs.

UPDATE: Apparently, the theater tech went into hiding.

 

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  1. OMG!

    Is that a Mullet?

  2. Alinsky says you have the power your enemies think you have.

    Then Palin must be one of the most powerful conservatives in the world. Mere mention of her causes lefty heads to spin.

  3. Again; which one in the picture is the drag queen, LOL?

  4. These freaks will go to any lengths!

  5. This is why I heart you so much, Jim. You dig more than any mutt I’ve ever known.

  6. Bwhahahahaha!

  7. The leftists have to lie to elevate themselves.

    Obama claimed to be a moderate.

  8. This little kerfuffle will be over with by Tuesday. The left is just too weird.

  9. To those on the Left who were so quick to attack Sarah (again), a truck-full of eggs in their faces!

    And I’m LOL at all of them!

  10. That’s no teacher. That’s a fat dyke loser/singer in a ‘C’ rated band. LOLOLOLOLOLOL

  11. Drag Band doesn’t sound like a career.

    Isn’t it possible this person has a day job? Substitute teaches? Tutors? Teaches taping her breasts down… something?

  12. Ahem – “Theater Tech” is the name of the class. It teaches highschoolers how to create sets, lighting plans, build props, etc. Her collegue Amy Christenson isn’t a “Music” and Mark Robinson isn’t a “Choir” all by himself. The word that follows their names is most likely the name of the class they teach.

    And she’s not a singer in a Drag Queen band, she’s obviously performing in the stage play “Hedwig and the Angry Inch.” If she was in the Sound of Music, would you claim she was an Austrian au pair?

    But, let’s suppose she really was both just a theater tech and a singer in a drag queen rock band – so what?

    Palin showed little class in talking with someone who disagreed with her. She mocked her openly, rolled her eyes when she heard her profession and when the camera was off, her people tore down the sign that Sarah was supposedly working to protect.

  13. Ok, just a couple things to point out, you might want to consider making these points as questions rather than stating them as facts in order to protect yourself. Theater Tech at a school is simply the new name from Drama teacher. The Master’s degree that drama teachers get include a lot of technical training. (this is different from the Bachelors). There are two Theater Tech’s listed on the Homer high school directory, (Gustafson being one) but no “Drama Teacher”
    So, she probably is the Drama teacher. Gustafson is listed as having a teaching certificate since 1995 in Alaska- so even if she is not teaching this year, she can still be considered a teacher since she just renewed her certification.
    Also, Hedwig and the Angry Itch is a hugely popular musical, later made into an award winning movie- so it makes sense that the high school drama teacher would direct a community play. It’s not really a “drag band”. You have to be careful these days, I understand the point you are trying to make, but you need to do it without looking like you are lying or it could backfire.

  14. Don’t forget, folks. She’s a “commercial fisherman”, too. She said so.

    Plus, she must be one heck of a drama coach.

    She has the “female impersonator” part down pat!

  15. Actually, she said she was married to a commercial fisherman. Not trying to be picky here, but there is plenty to tear apart without making stuff up.

  16. Busted! Nice to see you back in full action Jim!

  17. Peg,

    I didn’t hear the married to part.

    Just like I didn’t see Palin roll her eyes.

    But you didn’t correct that comment, did you?

    Not trying to be picky or anything.

  18. So even if she’s a drama teacher… that doesn’t make her a real teacher.

    It’s like saying the guy I had in PE back in school was a real teacher.

    Or saying that a philosopher or a psychologist is a scientist.

  19. HOLY CRAP

  20. the Dark Side-Lucifer’s Kids- have no compunction about LYING-if it serves their purpose–
    so the ‘teacher’ is a -what?!!!—
    boys and girls on the left-
    it begins w/ L and ends w/ R….
    C-Cs

  21. I find it amusing that these paragons of virtue are rushing to this freak’s defense. They argue every detail.

    Where is this attention to detail and truth when out and out lies are printed about Sarah Palin? That freak Sullivan is still dissecting Palin’s uterus and not a peep from you clowns.

    Hypocrites!

  22. Is this the Kathleen Gustafson that is a Teacher?

    http://www.facebook.com/people/Kathleen-Gustafson/1423876264

    Further I note almost identical posts at ACE’s place for #17 & #24. Boob buddies or just trolls?

  23. You googled her name and the word “teacher” – you just ran off to the bathroom and started celebrating before you came across this

    “In late July and early August, Noomah and Mastre’s next youth production will be directing an unpublished play by Mark Twain, “Is He Dead?” Also in August, Kathleen Gustafson will be teaching a camp for children ages 5-7.”

    Hey, it’s August! She’s teaching a camp in August.

    Clowns = right wing bloggers.

    http://homernews.com/stories/062310/arts_sik.shtml

  24. Who would let a freak like this teach their kids? Maybe Professor Obama, oops that was a lefty lie too.

  25. Urban Dictionary

    1. Palin American 945 up, 130 down

    A pc way to call someone mentally challenged. See: Retard
    Person 1: “OMG, Bryan is such a retard”
    Person 2: “Retard is such a strong word. Use ‘Palin American’ instead.”

  26. She’s a teacher all right. Teachers pick absolute crap now for school theatre, lots of “gay” tortured angst propaganist drivel, so there’s no actual contradiction or conflict in the “performance” revelation.

    Translation: UNION.
    Who paid for her Palin protest?
    THAT’s the reason she started going, “Uh …
    uh uh.”

  27. this erroneous ‘fact check’ is a perfect example of people choosing to seek out only the views that support their own.
    fact: she is a teacher.
    fact: her husband is a commercial fisherman and trapper.
    fact: the photo of the ‘drag band’ is from a stage production, taken in the summer of ’09. she is in costume.
    fact: after cameras stopped rolling in homer, sarah palins security tore down the banner kathleen had legally hung. nice going free speech crusaders!
    i dont expect my coment will last long, if it even posts, because the truth is too much for some people.

  28. @ 32, do you really want to challenge the truth about things… really? Sharrod ring a bell, Media matters ring a bell, Olbermann ring a bell, howard dean ring a bell… how about people being spat on or called the n word that never happened… i’ll ring yo bell anytime in that regard….

    And i got video upon video of signs being tore down grabbed, used as weapons from the left, so…stfu on that one. We’re just now playing catch up, so, get used it. Down thro those stones in a classless glass house.

  29. @ 32 http://www.breitbart.tv/tea-party-infiltrator-exposed-posing-as-racist-at-rand-paul-rally/

    difference between us and you… we dont have to infiltrate your people to make you look like complete a$$holes, you do a fine job of that yourself.

  30. hahahaha. sarah is sooo stupid. i llive in alaska and if she can fools the idiots in the lower 48, you derserve the government you elect. remember, she quit on us!

  31. i guess right now, we are putting up with the govt YOU elected, nice job DumbA$$. “She quit on us” cry baby… typical lib.

  32. i was wonder which state number you are… i know Obama said he was in 57 states, not including yours…. and had three more to go… so are you 58,59, or 60 now man thats dumb.

  33. The…ahhhh…”drag queen” who is actually the character Hedwig, the star of the play, is Atz Lee Kilcher. We long-time Alaskans know him as one of the musical Kilcher clan whom I watched perform when they were kids. You would know him as Jewel’s brother.

    God, you guys are idiots.

  34. You’re the idiot, did you read the whole article or no… here’s the rest you moron

    (HOMER TRIBUNE/Randi Somers) – Director Kathleen Gustafson (left) steps in to provide harmony as Hedwig (Atz Lee Kilcher) polishes up his performance at Pier One on Aug. 28.

    Kathleen Guftafson is not a teacher. She’s a theater tech… And a liar.

    You just can’t make this stuff up.

  35. anyone else wanna wear their A$$ as a hat?

  36. This is pure libel and nothing more. It takes 60 seconds to verify that she is a certified teacher in the state of Alaska. I sincerely hope you have a good attorney, because if she decides to sue you, it’s a slam dunk case.

  37. funny how the left always mocks Sara for stepping down as gov.to save her state from all those phony ethics charges BUT never say a word about the pols who quit their jobs that voters in their states elected them to do to work for obama double standard anyone

  38. Kathleen is indeed a teacher. Easy to verify, especially if you live in the beautiful Homer, Alaska. You should know, also quite easy to verify, is that the production of “Hedwig and the Angry Inch” has occurred numerous times in Homer. Always to a sold out crowd, and not always featuring the spectacular Katleen. The shows have benefited our local Kachemak Bay Family Planning Clinic, which provides low cost and often free health care to both the men and women of the lower Kenai Peninsula.
    The highlight of the production is truly Atz Lee Kilcher, in the role of Headwig…just one of the multi-talented and infamous Kilcher clan, Jewel being of course the most famous. Except to those of us fortunate enough to have danced with the likes of patriarch Yule Kilcher, someone Sarah would have much respect for!
    Please, get your facts straight. The interaction filmed between Sarah and Kathleen was just one of many just like it that occurred this past weekend.
    Another fact to be aware of, is that PRIVATE CITIZENS, going about their everyday Alaskan business were illegally stopped and searched by the private security detail with the Palin family on the PUBLIC HARBOR DOCKS in Homer this past weekend. How is that protecting our constitutional rights?
    Oh and it seems Sarah couldn’t even TIP HER KAYAK GUIDE, after a spectacular a=day on our beautiful Kachemak Bay!

  39. I see robert wears his A$$ well as a hat, the jury is still out on if a theatre tech is really a teacher… however, a theatre tech she is.

    http://www.kpbsd.k12.ak.us/departments.aspx?id=6206 page 28 so we know she’s there… moron it has the link to the page to go to right there in red,…. didnt catch that did you?

  40. Hey Arctic grrl, do you know that the right (thats conservatives) receive death threats on a daily basis, Glenn Beck wears a bullet proof vest on occasions, what about their constitutional rights? Or are you just concerned about your own? This might be a new thing to you in alaska and your crazy a$$ clan crap, but down here in the real world, it’s an everyday occurrence. Sarah learned that when she got down here. So we have no sympathy for you. Maybe if the progressive werent so violent… there would be no need … so, get your own peole.

  41. She teaches theatre tech- it’s a class-and a title. If you think the jury is still out then why is this stated as fact and not speculation. All anyone has to do is Google this.

  42. Because apparently she’s not listed in the teacher cert. database… soo….. im sure an update will be given when all the info is there. so jury still out.

  43. Did I not say that this Bull Dyke looked like she’d spent a lot of time on the Isle of Lesbos in the previous article? When are you guys going to start listening to me?!! ;-)

  44. lol, theatre people are some of the weirdiest people ya’ll ever meet, i had a computer art teacher give me a hard time and eventually failed me (im an amazing artist i might add) because i wouldnt play the villain in her retarded play and said drama people creep me out.

  45. Yes she is in the database. But if you have to enter last name first like the directions say. She has been a certified teacher in AK since 1995.

  46. Kathleen Gustafson has an angry itch that spread from crotch to brain.

    .

  47. woah this post brought out the trolls.

    i love gatewaypundit but in this case, there should be a correction. you don’t have to be certified to teach…and you can teach all kinds of crackpot crap and use that title.

    theater tech is a real class in performing art high schools. you don’t get certified to teach it, for obvious reasons. it means she teaches stage crew, lighting, etc.

    hedwig and the angry inch is indeed a drag show, but it had a mostly straight mainstream audience, and is pretty well known for a rock musical. this would be like taking a picture of someone in romeo and juliet and saying they were tights.

    no idea why this post brought out the lib trolls, but it sucks that there is erroneous info in it they can actually grab on to.

  48. She said she was a teacher and Palin reacted just as moronically to that as if she really were.

  49. O.K. tech and I am a journalist. Loose definitions and poor judgement, yhea your right she is a teacher by todays standards. MY parents were real teachers in core subjects. English and Chemistry. You lefties just go ahead and twist off. Your helping the undecided vote to realize they do not wish to be in the same room with you. powder is dry.

  50. She is certified and under Alaska law to get her level of certification you have to have at least a bachelors degree and pass the Praxis. The longer this information remains up as fact when it’s not and the more viral this goes the better chance of a lawsuit there is. I have already sent this on to Moore and have counted at least 20 links linking back to here. Do you have any idea how its going to look when multiple people tell you this is inaccurate and still you don’t correct? I hope your moment of snarl was worth it.

  51. This is not a drag queen band.
    Hedwig and the angry inch is a MUSICAL and a Movie.

  52. No matter what she is, Gustafson made Palin look shallow & smug. This is an ad hominem attack, natch.

  53. Robert = Levi Johnston

  54. At the link:

    “Additionally I could care less whether she performs in a drag queen band or for a play. What is significant is that she is president of the Board of Directors, Kachemak Bay. Family Planning Clinic (KBFPC) in Homer, AK, aka, abortion rights organization.

    We all know that progressives have targeted Sarah for not aborting her Down Syndrome Affected child Trig.

    The more I dig the more I find connections between Gustafson and Shannyn Moore, the progressive blogger and chief harasser of Sarah Palin and it’s looking more and more like this was a “bait” setup for which Sarah bit, but then she would have had no choice. Had she not approached them over the banner they most likely would have approached her.

    Either way it backfired and Sarah won the day by most accounts.”

  55. “Hedwig and the Angry Itch is a hugely popular musical, later made into an award winning movie- so it makes sense that the high school drama teacher would direct a community play. It’s not really a “drag band”.

    Fascinating; why are female-facing mistral show performances given awards and applause when female-facing is as hideously vile as black-facing.

    Are not those who enjoy watching female-facer at heart misogynistic sexist haters-of-all-things.

    HIGHLY POPULAR perhaps however representative of an unsophisticated, backward audience.

    It would make perfect sense that a high school drama teacher would direct a female-facing mistral show.

  56. I saw the word “mullet” mentioned several times above but in checking the picture I only saw a couple of bottom feeding suckerfish otherwise known as “carp”. And the way “she” was “carping” to Palin about slights real and imagined, carp describes “her” actions perfectly.

  57. Love hearing all the liberal morons talking about the “truth” and “libel”. They didn’t mind so much when the media was lying and trashing Palin, but how dare we deride this cross dressing freak.

    How do yo spell hypocrite?

    D-E-M-O-C-R-A-T.

  58. Lefties: Sarah Palin Totally Embarrasses Herself by Having Conversation with Critic

    http://patterico.com/2010/08/09/lefties-sarah-palin-totally-embarrasses-herself-by-having-conversation-with-critic/

    Oh yes, I really want this woman teaching my children!

  59. Sarah has a true servants heart, to go and speak with someone that is cutting you down is noble. And they came away with the fact that they both liked free speech. Kudos to Sarah. Unlike Dems who grab you by the neck and call you a liar and a racist.No proof anyone from Palin camp tore down the sign, Lie

  60. For all you truth seekers out there, Prof. Jacobson’s got your number.

    Palin Eye Roll Derangement Syndrome

    http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2010/08/palin-eye-roll-derangement-syndrome.html

  61. Aren’t we all God’s children? Have Grace aren’t you supposed to be Christians?

  62. LOL….These comments are hilarious. So what if she is a “theater” teacher? Does that make her more credible? Does that make her more gay? You Obama Americans (and I use Americans in the loosest possible way) have never cared about facts or truths, so why the hell start now?

    Left-hand trolls (And by “left hand” I refer to the tool and purpose that your dear muslim leaders use their left hand for…Don’t fool yourselves, you are no different than that to them.) are sour grapes. All things considered, I’d be bitter too if I had your mentality and emotional instability to be a sycophantic follower of a defunct political movement that is going NOWHERE.

    Now go wash yourselves left-hand Obama Americans. You smell like poo-poo.

    My apologies to all of the real Americans (in short, normal, healthy people with natural thoughts and morals)….I just had to say what I was thinking about Obama Americans. I can’t do that without getting in the gutter.

  63. Auntie Em,

    They’re desperate to change the subject. They want us to talk about anything but our loser president and his Marie Antoinette entitlement queen wife. That they foisted upon us, btw.

    Judgment to lead, indeed!

  64. As a teacher, I looked at the video. I can tell you that *I* would have rolled my eyes when she said she was a teacher. When I heard her say that she was a teacher I cringed because all teachers keep getting stereotyped by people like her.

  65. Palin’s latest crime: ‘Eyerolling’

    What a monumentally stupid, inane, bogus, irrelevant line of attack. Eyebrow raising is now cause for criticism? What’s next? Shrugging the shoulders? Rubbing the forehead? Putting your hands in your pockets?

    Holy mother what idiots.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/08/palins_latest_crime_eyerolling.html

  66. WOW, the trolls er out in full farce, must be neerin a lekshun or somtin.

    If Sarah laid her hands on a child and cured his disease, the left would complain because she didn’t fix his eyesight too. Sarah’s dad is a teacher, retired I think, and she loves and respects no one more than her dad.

    This is a simple set up for a you tube moment that she handled with her typical grace and dignity. She will have to deal with this for the rest of her public life. She handled it well because she is a good person.

    We as conservatives need to lighten up and be kinder and more understanding too the poor, fat, bad haircut, rude, vitriolic, vapid, baby killing, tax sucking, lesbian look-a-like liar. I would be angry too if I was that heinous looking. I mean come on! Using Rosie O’Donnel and Roseanne Barr as you fashion consultants? Not good, not good at all.

  67. You people are insane. How can anyone consider this woman competent for office? She’s a media-loving, attention-seeking celebrity who abandoned her constituents for money. She couldn’t even serve half of her term before quitting.

    And she’s an idiot…

  68. Looks like Kathleen Gustafson was listed as Morning Edition Host and Reporter for KBBI/KDLL. One of the underwriters is Pier One Theatres.

    Winter 2007
    Vol. 27 No. 2 / Published Quarterly
    KBBI / KDLL STAFFAllen Auxier, KDLL StationManager // Dave Anderson,General Manager // JonathanCoke, Development Director //Mike Mason, News Director //Paulette Wellington, MusicDirector & WeekendAnnouncer // Dorle Scholz,Business Manager // Sonja Lee,Program Director // KathleenGustafson, Morning EditionHost and Reporter // IngridHarrald, Volunteer Coordinator// Peggy Berry, AdministrativeAssistant

  69. Damned jaundiced-eyed liberals will try to use anything to discredit this lady!
    There was nothing but an old grey haired negro who claims to be the Dim’s Prez all over the local news yesterday and today. He did a lot of eye-rolling, yelling, and begging for funds for cash strapped dim pols at a “speech” he made in Austin and another in Dallas yesterday.
    Palin can roll those peepers at me any time she comes to Texas. Keep that “skeer” on ‘em Sarah gal.

  70. Gosh, mike, if you knew anything about the “truth” and judging by your ignorant rant, you don’t, you would know that democrats were bringing one useless ethics charge after another against her, costing that state tens of thousdands of dollars to defende baseless accusations.

    Well done, dems! Spare me your self righteous indignation at her “quitting”. If it wasn’t for the dems playing their typical politcal games, she would still be governor.

    Get a new act, mike. This one is pretty old.

  71. Hey Mike!
    Do you think there’s any truth to the old saying
    “takes one to know one”?

  72. Is she Kathleen A Gustafson or Kathleen J Gustafson. Looks like both are in Alaska and close to the same age.

  73. What does it matter at the end of the day whether this woman was a teacher? The point of the interaction was how Sarah responded when the woman told her she was one. The eye roll combined with the knowing look to her daughter.

    Republicans heralded Joe the Plumber asking the tough question of Barack Obama. It didn’t matter that his claim to be a “small business owner” was a lie.

  74. You people are insane. How can anyone consider this woman competent for office? She’s a media-loving, attention-seeking celebrity who abandoned her constituents for money. She couldn’t even serve half of her term before quitting.

    And she’s an idiot…

    __________________________

    Mike,

    When I read your description the name that came to mind was…OBAMA!

  75. My problem is with the curricula being taught with fed/state funds. Gay lifestyle is not a valid subject unless in aborant/deviant studies in a psycology class. Can’t Understand Normal Thinking.

  76. Yeah, Obama’s an idiot. Right. The guy clearly has a low IQ. Right…..

  77. “Teachers should be respected.” while teaching is an honorable profession [as countless other professions] respect is usually earned. many professions are entered into for monetary gains and benefits. i used to be criticized by a client advocate [in her eyes] co-worker for not being a client advocate. the rub was that while i actually completed services timely and compassionately she never did and the people under her case management suffered.

  78. “for her rude and aggressive, yet First Amendment Protected sign in Homer, Alaska.”

    fixed that for you.

    give it a rest… Palin’s private security tore the sign down moments later. It’s ok for politicians to lie to our faces, but not the citizens who vote for them? We need more rights, not less!

  79. Yes, Mike.

    Not only is he a half-term senator, media hound, attention seeking celebrity who abandoned his constituents for money, he’s dumb.

    Look at his presidency. He’s a real loser!

  80. August 10th, 2010 | 8:17 am | #91
    mike said:
    “Yeah, Obama’s an idiot. Right.The guy clearly has a low IQ. Right…..”

    Glad to see you agree with us, Mike!
    See? Like Sarah said, “We can find common ground” on something!

  81. Mike-the-troll #82, See, this is where you and the rest of the America haters get it all wrong, She never went looking for us, we found her. Oh and that “Palin Quit” thing is such a old, lame and misguided attempt at a smear. You know what happened as do most sentient Americans. Maybe you don’t. It must be hard to see or hear when your head is buried between Soro’s fat flaps licking the sweat scum and dead skin cells.

  82. Lee,

    I refer you to comment #78.

  83. I don’t understand how Jim could post what he did without doing any checking (at all?). It is public record that she is a teacher. A singer in a Drag Queen Band? No credibility here.

  84. I’m a little confused here guys. #96 says “you know what happened as do most Americans”. Yes, we know, SHE QUIT. You don’t even bother to offer any explanation, you just say the truth is a lame smear. Weird. She quit man, accept it. If you think something else happened, please tell us…

    And I notice there is no correction to this story yet. It has now been proven that A) She is a teacher and B) she is not in a drag-queen band. That picture is of her putting on a play. SHE IS A THEATER TEACHER MORONS.

  85. Wow! The anti Sarah trools come out to play. The slightest mention of the name Sarah Palin sends Idiots into convulsions of drooling hatred. Why? I’m glad you asked!

    Sarah makes Obama look the fool he really is

    Sarah has NO trouble with the truth, and Obama has NO trouble with the lie.

    Sarah has more executive experience and know how than the pretender in chief.

    The main reason though, is that she scares them to death. They see her next to Obama and know that he just doesn’t match up to her in any way shape or form.

  86. Let’s see, it’s been proven that she is a teacher, she is directing a production of “Hedwig and the Angry Inch” not performing as the lead character.

    When will you issue a correction?

    Or are you acting like those you criticize?

  87. And neomom, #96, you are a disgraceful American.

    You think I “hate America” because I don’t like Sarah Palin? What the hell is wrong with you, honestly? What kind of country do you think this is? I always assumed it was one where we had the freedom of our opinions, apparently you think that anyone who doesn’t agree with you hates this country. What a sorry, sorry human being you are…and a poor excuse for an American

  88. No Troll, I said sentient Americans, clearly you are not one of them. Go ask your idiot professor for more talking points.

  89. “The main reason though, is that she scares them to death. They see her next to Obama and know that he just doesn’t match up to her in any way shape or form.”

    This is quite possibly the funniest thing I have ever read

  90. “No Troll, I said sentient Americans, clearly you are not one of them. Go ask your idiot professor for more talking points.”

    Again, you make no attempt to describe what happened. I guess it’s because you realize that SHE QUIT

  91. There you go again, LSM. Yesterday at 2:01pm
    While filming the Alaska documentary in Homer, I had a brief discussion with a local lady who, in typical Alaska style, decided to give me her two cents worth about my political leanings, American politics in general, and much else besides. It’s what makes our politics so uniquely democratic: two people discussing the things they care about, even though they respectfully disagree about just about everything (you can watch a brief video of the encounter here).

    The LSM has now decided to use this brief encounter for another one of their spin operations. They claim I – wait for it – “appear to roll my eyes” when the lady tells me she’s a teacher. Yes, it’s come to this: the media is now trying to turn my eyebrow movements into story lines. (Maybe that’s why Botox is all the rage – if you can’t move your eyebrows, your “eye rolling” can’t be misinterpreted!) If they had checked their facts first, they would have known that I come from a family of teachers; my grandparents were teachers, my father was a teacher, my brother is a teacher, my sister works in Special Needs classrooms, my aunt is a school nurse, my mom worked as a school secretary for much of her professional life, we all volunteer in classrooms, etc., etc., etc. Given that family history, how likely is it that I would “roll my eyes” at someone telling me that they too work in that honorable profession? Stay classy, LSM.

    One good thing to come out of this little episode, though, is that it helps to remind people once again that Alaska is a great state full of independent-minded people. I look forward to introducing you to some of them in the forthcoming documentary series on life in Alaska! The show will remind you to get outdoors, breathe in God’s creation, and taste the freedom!

    - Sarah Palin

  92. Just keep slinging the mud you anti Sarah and conservative fools. You don’t see that it just plays right into Sarah’s hands. If you fools hadn’t been so afraid of her, she might have rode off into the sunset. No you fools had to try to discredit her, and spread the vilest tripe. In reality you created a political monster that is going to bring you communist fools to your knees. I say keep it up because the Palin army is growing every day, with every dirty little dig you fools throw at her. An army that you can’t count or understand, you are to busy spinning the failures of the “one” that you can’t see the actual damage he has and is causing. Alas intelligence isn’t your strong suit, nor is common sense, did you see me roll my eyes. How about I just say it! You are a bunch of cowardly fools.

  93. The right-wing posters on here are precisely the same kind of people our Founding Fathers rescued us from: Anti-constitutional, theocratic, fact-deficient, haters.

  94. Laugh all you want fool, in 2012 it will be our turn to laugh and point you out and say “how you like me now” The more you insult and spin the worse it gets for you spin and laugh away. I love the sound and smell of abstract fear. Madam President Sarah Palin—HMMMM has a very special ring to it doesn’t it!!!

  95. “You just can’t make this stuff up”

    Actually, it appears that you can.

  96. The right-wing posters on here are precisely the same kind of people our Founding Fathers rescued us from: Anti-constitutional, theocratic, fact-deficient, haters.

    =====================

    Project much?

    Bwahahahaha

    Btw, you are woefully misnamed.

  97. You can’t make this stuff up? Actually, you can, and apparently do.

    Kathleen Gustafson teaches a class in Theater Tech at Homer High.

    Your claim that she is a “singer in a drag queen band” is a simple lie. She directed a production of “Hedwig and the Angry Inch.”

    in other words, she’s an ordinary person whose political opinions differ from yours. You owe her an apology, but I doubt very much that you will be able to pull one out of your hate-filled heart.

  98. SplendidOne——- is that you Barack. What an egotist, but then again you are a leftest communist, egotism goes with the whole mind set. You people think you know more than the rest of us, you think to tell us how we should or should not live. I see also that you don’t have a mirror to see your slimy reflection. I’ll make a deal with you, don’t presume to tell me how to live, and I wont laugh at your sorry behind.

  99. I seriously cannot wait for her tits to sag. Because that’s when we don’t have to hear about her anymore.

  100. Rude and aggressive sign? Have you SEEN a teaparty rally?

  101. I am not shocked that Sarah Palin zombies do not know about teaching degrees or the arts.

    This post was hilarious because in your frenzy to defend the indefensible Sarah and her immoral unethical brood, all you really did was confirm to the rest of the world, your total ignorance and stupidity.

    If you had any common sense, you’d be hiding the Palin’s away from normal society.

    Who’s the baby daddy this week?

    LOL

  102. The pathway to hell is paved with your mind set. The more you spin and wiggle the more slippery the path gets. The good thing is that the good people are starting to wake up and refuse to go any further down that path with you. Slip sliden away, slip sliden away, lets all sing.

  103. The right-wing posters on here are precisely the same kind of people our Founding Fathers rescued us from: Anti-constitutional, theocratic, fact-deficient, haters.

    ROTFLMMFAO!

    Yeah. Right. Smoke too much?

    The Marxists will save us from those evil dead white men.

    I have a better idea. We the People save our Republic from the racist haters who would murder their enemies by the hundred millions to have a communist utopia. Very factual, very true and very much about the insane clown posse that is the “progressive left” in this country. Sooner rather than later, We the People will show the racist hater demo-rats the door and to recover the power they will use violence.

    And then it will be our turn to show them the compassion they lack to act like citizens, much less like human beings…

  104. I thought the behavior of Palin’s daughter in this video was most instructive. She was rude. She lacked the self-control that should have been instilled in her by a mother who also needs to learn self-control. I couldn’t imagine President Obama’s daughters speaking out that way to an adult without him admonishing them. Yet Palin said nothing. I couldn’t imagine President George W. Bush’s daughters speaking out that way without him admonishing them. Yet Palin said nothing. There is no grace, no courtesy, no sense of what is the correct behavior from this woman. And it’s not just in this video. I have seen this in other videos posted in other places. She often stumbles, even when interviewed by friendly commentators. We need someone with a fine grasp of domestic and foreign policy in the Oval Office. It wouldn’t hurt if they also carried themselves with dignity and self-respect.

  105. There are some contradictions on the part of the “teacher”, I mean a teacher tech or a band singer whatever she is. In the Banner, it stated that Sarah Palin was the worst governor, but in her last statement, she cried out why Gov Palin resigned. I mean, she said Palin was the worst governor, and yet she was complaining why Sarah Palin resigned as gov. This ultra left impersonator has an inconsistent mentality and out of place. NO WONDER WHY AMERICANS ARE NOW RANKED AMONG THE LOWEST IN WORLDWIDE EDUCATION BECAUSE THEIR DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION IS HIRING FAKE TEACHERS. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

  106. Jim –

    You called Mrs. Gustafson a “liar” for saying she is a teacher. She teachers and has a teaching license. You, therefore, made a fasle statement when you called her a liar.

    If you did not know she was a teacher, you negligently made a false accusation of lying. If you know she was a teacher and claimed she was not anyway, then you lied yourself. In either case, now that you are well aware that she is a theater teacher, licensed in the state of Alaska, at a minimum, you need to correct your post. But I bet a bottle of Scotch that you won’t . . . .

  107. Obama should bring back that old campaign slogan of FDR, you know “happy days are here again” Oh that’s right were in the middle of another Demoncrap caused depression that Obama just has to make worse with his tax the rich bullcrap, in the mean time to change the subject, lets rag on Sarah Palin some more. You’re making her stronger and more formidable with every little filthy dig.

  108. “We the People save our Republic from the racist haters who would murder their enemies by the hundred millions to have a communist utopia”

    What the hell are you talking about dude? You are seriously delusional. The Democrats would murder hundreds of millions of people to install a communist utopia. Are you off your meds?

  109. “Demoncrap caused depression”

    Oh, you must have been asleep from 2000-2008, when the GOP ran this country into the ground. The banks collapsed under George Bush, and were rescued by him and the GOP, 3 months before Obama took office. Have you really that short a memory?

  110. Well I see that all the Sarah bashing isn’t enough, now you fools are going to create a second generation political monster by picking on her daughter. This is fun, hoisted on their own petards, and can’t see it. Sarah will laugh all the way to the White House where she will turn us back from the precipice that Obama and cadre has taken us.

  111. “The leftists were outraged that Sarah Palin had the nerve to confront this angry “teacher.” Teachers should be respected.”

    —————————————

    Aside from the fact that the protester actually is a teacher…

    Palin was not disrespecting her because she thought she wasn’t a teacher, but because she thought she was.

    So Palin fails even by your own standards.

  112. if Sarah Palin was the worst governor of Alaska, why that during her term, the state of Alaska has a surplus budget and a lot of good old boys got busted. I was working in Alaska during her term and based on my personal observation, she got 80% approval from Alaskans and she was able to united both democrats and republicans. I am a registered democrat and frankly, I am impressed by her governance. Perhaps, that “teacher” was one of the good old boys families.

  113. The very premise of this post from the beginning is a lie.

    The teacher IS a teacher.

    All else is mere distraction.

    You attempted to do a Breithart- and now you have been exposed.

    Are there any right wing sites that do not tell deliberate lies?

    How tragic for you that the immoral and unethical Sarah Palin family is manipulating you all to this extent. I say, let her make her millions and sneer at you all ( because that’s what she did when she sneered at this teacher- you do know that right?)She is laughing all the way to the bank at you frenzied zombies who will do or say anything.

    Thank God Almighty we have class and intellect in our first family.

  114. “I thought the behavior of Palin’s daughter in this video was most instructive. She was rude. She lacked the self-control that should have been instilled in her by a mother who also needs to learn self-control.”

    ——————————————-

    Not to mention the gum-snapping.

  115. Mike just a few words to describe your foolish post. that is horseshiite. at it’s peak unemployment under Bush was 4.5% with 5% considered full employment. The bull never hit the fan until Piglosi took the gavel and you know it. Not only was 95.5% of Americans working but they were spending and creating more until the brakes were slammed on by the moron left. Spin away there Mike, but you can’t change reality.

  116. It does not matter whether or not she is actually a teacher. In that moment, Mrs. Palin believed she was a teacher and one can clearly see her reaction that. Despicable.

  117. “’The main reason though, is that she scares them to death. They see her next to Obama and know that he just doesn’t match up to her in any way shape or form.’

    This is quite possibly the funniest thing I have ever read”

    ——————————————————-

    C’mon Mike, when’s the last time you’ve seen Obama make that marching choo-choo arm motion while squeaking about “fightin’ for America” ? He can learn a LOT from her!

  118. Everything about Liberalism is based on money, power and lies. Liberals and Democrats have been in power for almost two years and we have EPIC FAIL. The Liberal leadership attack Palin relentlessly because they fear stupid Democrat voters realizing how bad of a job Liberalism has done. Palin is unelected, and accountable to no one but herself but Democrats in their hatred for strong women can’t let her go.

  119. Hey Libs, answer this one: Who is running the country? Palin or Obama and the Libs? I’ll help you – it’s OBAMA. And after 20 months, we have:
    Record unemployment, record death toll in Afghanistan, record use of food stamps, record bank failures, record Democrat corruption, record number of unelected and unaccountable Czars, record foreclosures, record government spending, record trade deficits, record number of personal assistants for a First Lady, record number of presidential golf games, a stimulus bill that accomplished nothing other than to flush a trillion dollars down the drain, record ecological disaster in the US ignored and exploited for political purposes, taxpayer bailout of GM who now invest in Mexican auto plants, a health care bill passed late at night and on a holiday packed with Socialism and the takeover of the student loan industry, wild weekly taxpayer-financed parties at the White House followed by lavish vacations, secret wiretaps still on, secret tribunals still in effect, executive order used to assassinate Americans overseas, troops still stuck in Iraq, Michelle takes 8 holidays in Summer 2010 alone, Gitmo still open, don’t ask don’t tell still on, SEC now immune from FOIA, a mosque being built on the 9-11 site, NASA being used as a Muslim outreach program, bills passed in the dead of night when no one is looking, lobbyists controlling the White House despite promises to the contrary, massive expansion of powers for the Department of Homeland Security while the southern border is left wide open to daily invasion by illegals, foreign policy disasters, and a Vice President so gaffe-prone that even the Liberals try to keep him out of the news.

  120. Thank God Almighty we have class and intellect in our first family.

    =================

    Oh, yes! Behold the public perception of your messiah.

    Like this:

    http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4137/4877679809_4d4663f65e_o.jpg

    And this:

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_orkXxp0bhEA/TF_aNRzL64I/AAAAAAAAfpg/142_CDscdrw/s400/100809-obama.jpg

    Or this:

    http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/images/item/MichelleAntoinette.jpg

  121. I see the a$$hats are out in full force with this one… bwahahahahaha…. morons. Democrats the A$$es of american politics, ya’ll wear that mascot well

  122. Silly wingnuts! Anyone who even looks at the Wasilla Witch sideways must be destroyed, huh?

    Not just the Worst Governor Ever, but also the Worst Candidate For Vice President Ever. Sarah Palin is a joke and her worshipers are the punch line.

  123. Is the teacher a teacher?

    Yes or no?

  124. Hey Palinfanatic! Who’s been doing everything they can to obstruct everything being done in congress?? The Republicans that’s who. They have spent the last 2 years doing as little as they possibly can to let anything get done. Why the hell are you so obsessed with this woman anyway? She was only chosen because McCain’s people were making a desperate attempt to get Hillary Clinton supporters. I knew that as soon as I heard the fact he had chosen a woman as a running mate and before I knew anything about her.

    And how nice of the conservatives to decide to jump on average individuals just because they dare say they disapprove of this woman’s failure to live up to the job that she ran for as governor of Alaska. Wow. So miss goody two shoes can’t defend herself without you people? You guys are real winners.

  125. Anyone know about the Smokey Bay Learning Center in Alaska? Looks like she did some work there. They closed down in in 2006.

  126. I am laughing my booty off right now. This was a high school play? Hey, B-Rob!? I’ll bet you that bottle of vodka on the stool in the pic that it wasn’t.

    ha ha ha ha ha!!

  127. You know, I did not vote in 2008 for Palin, and think she is not ready for a presidential run in 2012. But to see the hate, the lies, and the leftist VIOLENCE that this woman inspires in the insane neo-Marxists, I will vote for her, and hope she wins. Why? so the unhinged racist haters will take the leap that all communists do…they will start murdering. Then We the People can act accordingly.

    No, the pig is NOT A TEACHER, unless your idea of a “teacher” is a self important union thug who cares only what “she” can game from the system, and could give two s**ts about what is good for the kids. A teachers is about teaching, not propagandizing. If your in the NEA, your a political activist, not a teacher.

    You who love the first Kenyan are in for a bumpy ride. But keep hoping for change. It might not be the kind you want however.

  128. Ahem – “Theater Tech” is the name of the class. It teaches highschoolers how to create sets, lighting plans, build props, etc. Her collegue Amy Christenson isn’t a “Music” and Mark Robinson isn’t a “Choir” all by himself. The word that follows their names is most likely the name of the class they teach.

    And she’s not a singer in a Drag Queen band, she’s obviously directing the stage play “Hedwig and the Angry Inch.” If she was in the Sound of Music, would you claim she was an Austrian au pair?

  129. “Gosh, mike, if you knew anything about the ‘truth’ and judging by your ignorant rant, you don’t, you would know that democrats were bringing one useless ethics charge after another against her, costing that state tens of thousdands of dollars to defende baseless accusations.”

    —————————————

    From the July 1, 2009 Juneau Empire:

    ~~~Palin herself may be responsible for much of those costs, as indicated by a list of investigation costs for 13 separate cases the state Personnel Board released Tuesday in response to public records requests.

    he timing, scope and other factors of the single largest expense appear to fit the case Palin filed against herself that cost $187,797 to investigate. That’s almost two-thirds of the total $296,042 of all Personnel Board investigations in the last two years.

    [T]he self-reported complaint was a means to have a legislative investigator’s findings in the “Troopergate” case reexamined by a Personnel Board investigator. She said publicly that her self-reported complaint was without merit. ~~~

    http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/070109/sta_457304159.shtml

    ————-

  130. Wow. You’ve had this thing up for hours now without correcting it. It’s really shameful. You have nobody to blame but yourself if this poor woman sues you to bits.

  131. So let me get this straight. Comparing Obama to Stalin, throwing the words “fascist”, “communist”, and “brutal jackbooted thugs” around fast and loose, saying he is the End of America, exercising your 2nd Amendment rights by brandishing rifles outside presidential appearances (never mind that Bush was known to eject people because they wore the wrong t-shirt), that is all reasoned discourse. A sign that says simply “Worst Governor Ever” is “unhinged”.

    I don’t even care who’s right and who’s wrong anymore, before anything else the discourse has got to be improved in this country. This is “I’m rubber, you’re glue”, and the debate is now on a schoolyard level. What this woman does in her spare time is none of my or your business. She didn’t shout, she wasn’t aggressive at all, and in the brief conversation we all just watched she was more calm in tone and manner than Palin herself, whose first instinct was to reply with sarcasm. She’s a citizen and a voter just like you and I. Unless we’re now going to exclude the right to vote from everyone but married, Christian suburbanites with 2.3 children, splashing someone’s outre personal life on the web for the crime of criticizing a public leader, that’s just beneath all of us.

  132. As Sarah Palin stated in her resignation speech ( and stated in many interviews); she resigned because she recognized the cost that the frivolous ethics complaints were having on her state and she saw how much of her staff’s time and her own time were forced to deal with those issues.
    She no longer wanted to be relegated to spending the majority of her time battling dozens of baseless frivolous ethics charges which was not productive for her state. She instead knew she could fight for Alaskans and Americans outside of office, and she knew the man who would fill her place would follow the same agenda as she had.

    Palin’s entire administration was paralyzed by those frivolous complaints.
    She saw that if she stayed on as Governor it would cost the state millions of dollars in wasted time and resources to defend against false and maliciously ethics complaints and doom it to gridlock.
    Sarah had to step down for the better of her state and it was the honorable thing to do.
    She wasn’t going to allow those intent on destroying the state. She simply took the fight to a new battlefield.
    She instead knew she could fight for Alaskans and Americans outside of office, and she knew the man who would fill her place would govern with the same agenda as she had.

  133. I just caught the update and need to amend my earlier comment about her personal life being unusual – she wasn’t even in a drag band, she was directing a play.

    See what happens when you jump to give the white glove inspection of anyone who dares disagrees with you? It makes you look like a damn fool.

  134. Okay….so pictures of Obama as Hitler, or Stalin, or the Joker, or with a bone through his nose are okay. One sign calling Palin “worst Governor ever” is unhinged and aggressive.

    Jeez, Jim, you have some sensitive fee-fees there…

  135. Now Palin is claiming she DIDN’T roll her eyes when Gustafson said she was a teacher?

    Seriously?

    Sarah Palin, See You Next Tuesday. If you get what I’m saying.

  136. What I get from watching this is that Sarah seems to be the same cheerful, upbeat person she is privately as she is publicly.
    She talked stuck up for herself in a firm but nice and friendly way. That is just who Sarah Palin is, and that is the secret to her appeal.

    If the lefties are left with nothing other than parsing and analyzing facial expressions as their basis for political discussion, then it’s little wonder their intellectual and moral void is going to be so richly “rewarded” this November.

  137. Still a deviant behavior play. Palin scares the snot out of the Republican leadership and dem’s. Why??? She has more in common with average america than elitist R’s & D’s.

  138. I didn’t catch the eye roll. Looks to me like Sarah already knew who she was and when she said she was a teacher, she and Bristol confirmed to themselves that, sure enough, that’s Hedwig. lol

    That is NOT a school play! There’s a bottle of vodka on the stool in the picture!

  139. “Yeah, Obama’s an idiot. Right. The guy clearly has a low IQ. Right…..”

    Keep drinking the Kool aid, little Obama zombie. Good little boy.

    I love the way the Palin haters are all up in arms over an eye roll, yet then come here and claim that Jim is “unhinged” or has sensitive “fee fees”.

    No wonder the country is going down the toilet under their “leadership”.

    But Palin is an idiot? LOL!

  140. Being an obama water-carrier must pay pretty good. Probably union scale. Sure is a lot of them coming out of the woodwork the closer the election gets.
    I wonder what they will do when we vote these liberals out in the Fall and all of obama’s gimme-uh-paycheck programs are defunded.

  141. Kevin @147:

    Well, except for the fact that TWO-THIRDS of the cost was represented by a complaint SHE FILED HERSELF. See comment @144.

    Interesting how you Palin defenders claim she was a successful governor with a string of accomplishments out of one side of your mouth, but claim “Palin’s entire administration was paralyzed” by ethics complaints out of the other side of your mouth.

    And by the way, discounting the complaint she filed HERSELF, the cost of investigating complaints for the first two years of her administration totaled just over $100,000…so you’re saying she quit to avoid another $100,000 being spent over the next two years?

    As Palin would say, there’s a new one born every minute.

  142. Idiot probably teaches that Einstein’s Theory of Relativity is true, too, and we all know what nonsense that is: http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/2010/08/andy_schlafly_strikes_einstein_theory_of_relativity_liberal_conspiracy.php.

    Palin knows–and is clearly teaching her daughter–that as soon as we treat teachers with respect and let science and rational thought be our guides, we are toast. And also going to hell in hand basket, too.

  143. LOL !

    Of course, a big liar. Democrat Kooks are very concerning.

    However, still, in all honesty Mr. Hoft, Sarah Palin should not have confronted this nonsense – and the others like Todd, should not have been trying to block the camera. They should know better than to play to these fools on the Democratic Partisan side.

    Falling in traps is not a healthy sign of a reasoned insight.

  144. Elektra @156:

    First of all, Gufstafson did not play Hedwig.

    And who claimed it was a school play? Be specific, please.

  145. How does directing a play about a rock band make her “a singer in a drag queen band?”

    I guess accuracy is no impediment to phony outrage.

  146. comment @ #100 — copied and pasted right out of the Karl Rove/Bill Kristol/Rebecca Mansour playbook that lists approved Sarah Palin lame rejoiners and talking points.

    Please, get new material. This has all been debunked and factchecked to be “pants on fire” several times over.

    Oh, that’s right, neither you ‘bots nor your idol believe Pulitzer prize-winning fact-checkers either.

    But you believe in The Rapture, literal interpretation of the Christian bible, and that the world is only 6000 years old, Sarah said so herself.

    Brilliant.

    /sarcasm

  147. I came to this site from what I think was an AP article on this encounter. It was on the front news page of Yahoo. I suppose I am naive but I am terribly offended by the comments about Kathleen. I don’t know anyone in this story but I can read and what I see here is largely disgusting and comes across as really unbalanced. This is what works for the usual users of this site? This is what is acceptable? And no I am not anti-Palin (or pro-Palin, just neutral). So don’t use that angle to attack me.

  148. … libel (for written, broadcast, or otherwise published words)—is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government, or nation a negative image. It is usually, but not always, a requirement that this claim be false and that the publication is communicated to someone other than the person defamed (the claimant).

  149. The bottom line is that Sarah Palin loves Alaska and was unable to progress her agenda given the frivolous ethics charges that paralyzed the Alaska state government. Saah Palin hates to waste time and money, and this would have been the inevitable result of her remaining in office and fighting these political attacks disguised as “ethics” complaints.

  150. Jim Hoft is a fool.

  151. Gustafson’s own page on linkedin shows that she does not consider herself a teacher:

    http://www.linkedin.com/pub/kathleen-gustafson/17/2b8/a93

  152. Laura @167:

    Right. ‘Cause she’s done SO much for Alaska since quitting.

  153. LauraNo Gravatar
    August 10th, 2010 | 11:40 am | #167

    You and others are just wasting your time trying to logically explain to the trolls here why Sarah Palin left. They aren’t interested in the truth, just in pushing their talking points and following orders. Their orders are to trash her at every opportunity … or else create an opportunity, no matter how flimsy or even nonexistent, to broadcast their current meme. They’re just being good little soldiers and earning their keep. Wonder how much it is now per post? Must be lucrative, judging by all the posts.

  154. @ comment #166 I know, right? They’ve called her a liar, implied she’s in some way deviant…and then instead of correcting it, actually entrenched themselves further. I’m rapidly shifting from “she has a case” to “I sort of hope she pursues this case.” It would be quite delicious to watch, in that train-wreck way, if it weren’t that I feel so very sorry for Mrs. Gustafson.

    One does sort of wonder what provincial backwater the original poster inhabits, that he’s never heard of high schools having theater classes. Goodness, they even teach such esoteric subjects as Literature and French, Trigonometry and Physics at these institutions of learning. But perhaps that’s just here where I am, in the liberal oasis that is…Texas.

  155. I love Palin, and used to love GatewayPundit, but c’mon now…This site is losing all credibility fast by refusing to concede it made an error.

    Theater Tech is a real class.
    It’s standard at performing arts high schools.

  156. “Oh, you must have been asleep from 2000-2008, when the GOP ran this country into the ground. The banks collapsed under George Bush, and were rescued by him and the GOP, 3 months before Obama took office. Have you really that short a memory?”

    Actually mike, the dems have been in control of Congress from 2007-present which is about 3 1/2 years on my watch. The “collapse” occurred while the dems had control of Congress.

    So not only do you have a short memory, you’re not too smart either.

  157. I’m not surprised at how off-topic all these comments have become. The article is about a teacher and her assistance as a tech in a small Alaskan community performance, not about Obama or liberals/democrats.

    I’m also not surprised that those who feel threatened by other posters are resorting to name-calling or strange accusations when they can no longer find reasonable nor logical arguments to discuss disagreements in a calm manner.

    What I am surprised about is the blatant disregard for the actual definition of a “Troll”. A “Troll” is a person who delights and finds entertainment in getting serious/emotional reactions from their posts. We trolls go out of our way to laugh at your hilariously angry replies, whether you’re a republican or democrat, liberal or conservative. I can honestly say none of you are successful trolls, except perhaps sliderblaze who’s either a 12 year old troll with nothing better to do or a raging buffoon. Please stop blaming us true trolls for the angry or emotional reactions of those reading the above article. It is insulting to trolls everywhere.

    Also, Sara Palin is no smarter than a lemming; it doesn’t take a genius to figure that out. If you give a serious reply to this statement, then you clearly don’t get I’m trolling you to prove a point.

    @sliderblaze – Nice touch on making facts up without real sources to prove your point and using redundant/circular logic. Very good trolling tactic, couldn’t have done it better myself!

    -Megs

  158. icantsayNo Gravatar
    August 10th, 2010 | 11:20 am | #166
    you forgot the source:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation

    joanNo Gravatar
    August 10th, 2010 | 11:13 am | #165
    No Joan, you are anything but neutral! You pretend to be neutral, but you have a stake in the game, and probably a paycheck coming for “acting” like the voice of reason.

  159. NC Cop,

    It goes back to Clinton.

    Still Oblivious To Meltdown’s Cause

    http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=543139&p=2

  160. NC @174:

    Actually mike, the dems have been in control of Congress from 2007-present which is about 3 1/2 years on my watch. The ‘collapse’ occurred while the dems had control of Congress.”

    ——————————————-

    I guess you don’t realize that Congress has two houses. And the Republicans had control of one – the Senate – until January 2009.

  161. OMG! I’d roll my eyes too! A Bull Dyke with a Mullet! What could be better! ROTFLMAO!

  162. NC Cop, let’s look at that, shall we?

    Playing by your yardstick, we’ll only look at the years 2000 – 2007. During that time we saw the weakest jobs and income growth in nearly 60 years. Middle-class incomes were essentially flat, and nearly all GDP growth was accounted for by the wealthiest 5%; this growth did not trickle down. Overall monthly job growth was 0.3%, the lowest it had been since February 1945 (before Bush, job growth was 1.5% during the period 7/90 – 3/01). Household income growth actually went negative for the first time since tracking began in 1967; it was -0.1% (before Bush, household income growth was 0.8% during the period 1989 – 2000).

    My sources are the Bureau of Labor Statistics and the National Bureau of Economic Research. These are the facts, hard data from primary sources. Though I’m sure you’ll somehow just spin an ad hominem out of it somehow.

  163. MeganNo Gravatar
    August 10th, 2010 | 12:30 pm | #175
    “Also, Sara Palin is no smarter than a lemming; it doesn’t take a genius to figure that out. If you give a serious reply to this statement, then you clearly don’t get I’m trolling you to prove a point.”

    Actually, if you put it that way, she’s smarter than the driver-in-chief… she at least got out of the car before it went off the cliff.

    Oh, and troll is the correct expression…. even by your definition.

  164. Seriously, what do you right wing neanderthals have against drag queens?

    Two words: Rudy Giuliani.

  165. Jim Hoft is an idiot. The photo is of a performance of “Hedwig and the Angry Inch,” a rock musical whose main character is a transgender singer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedwig_and_the_Angry_Inch_(musical) Kathleen Gustafson was the director of the performance. She is also a teacher of Theater Tech at Homer High School, not “a theater tech.” If you look at page 28 of this Kenai Peninsula Borough School District personnel directory, you’ll find her name clearly listed:
    http://www.kpbsd.k12.ak.us/assets/Personnel_Directory.pdf?docid=0/16/56/66CCEC2E-A5DB-4ACF-B38B-E85E52182FCF.pdf

    It’s amazing the depths to which the Palinbots will sink to defend their pet idiot from the criticism of an actual working Alaskan who knows her much better than they do. And how they’ll never bother to retract theirs lies and smears when they’re proven wrong. But then, they do follow the same playbook that their queen bee does.

  166. “Though I’m sure you’ll somehow just spin an ad hominem out of it somehow.”

    Not at all, Austin. I’m not a democrat, remember!!

    If you would, though, could you please post your link to those statistics? Thanks.

    As for all the geniuses who are crying about Palin quitting (I believe one genius said her legal bills were only around $100,000) it was because of all the underhanded and B.S. “ethics” complaints that were costing her in the neighborhood of $500,000.00. Now I realize that half a million dollars is a drop in the bucket to liberals who have pissed away trillions of dollars without anything to show for it, but that is quite a bit of money for most people.

    Thanks for playing.

  167. It gets worse. From 2000 – 2007, during a Republican administration and a Republican Congress, working-age households fared even worse than the statistics above. When you remove retirees, people over 65, and only look at those working in the then-current job environment, household income fell an average of $2,176. Again, this is from the federal government’s own reporting at the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

    No wonder we get nothing but scapegoats and sarcasm from the revisionists on the right.

  168. Look, I went to this performance of this play. She was a member of the cast in the play Hedwig. The play in question involves the struggles of a transvestite, and is very good. Trust me, she is a teacher who helps on the side at the local theater- Pier One.

  169. Kathleen Guftafson is not a teacher. She’s a theater tech… And a liar.

    No, Mr. Hoft, she was completely truthful. She is a teacher. You, on the other hand, are making a plainly dishonest and legally libelous statement. I hope Ms. Gustafson (not “Guftafson”) pursues legal action and you learn why personal responsibility is not only a virtue but a legal necessity in this world.

  170. NC Cop,

    No problem.

    Historical Employment Data from the BLS:

    ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.ceseeb1.txt

    Census Bureau Historical Record of Mean Household Income:

    http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/data/historical/household/h03AR.xls

  171. Zuzu @ 178.

    I’m well aware of the Senate, Zuzu. Perhaps you are not aware that it is the responsibility of CONGRESS when it comes to fiscal policy.

    According to Article I, the Congress shall have the power to:

    Originate all bills for raising revenues
    Collect taxes, duties, and excise, pay debts, and provide for the common defense
    Borrow money on the credit of the United States
    Regulate commerce with foreign nations and among states
    Establish a uniform rule of naturalization
    Establish a uniform rule of bankruptcy
    Coin money
    Promote the progress of science and useful arts
    Establish tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court
    Declare war (Congress adjusted this power with the War Powers act)
    Raise and maintain the military
    Make all laws necessary for the execution of our constitution and government
    Override Presidential veto with two-thirds majority vote.
    (Additional expressed powers)

    That’s what affects the economy, get it?

  172. NC Cop@ 185:

    “As for all the geniuses who are crying about Palin quitting (I believe one genius said her legal bills were only around $100,000) it was because of all the underhanded and B.S. “ethics” complaints that were costing her in the neighborhood of $500,000.00. Now I realize that half a million dollars is a drop in the bucket to liberals who have pissed away trillions of dollars without anything to show for it, but that is quite a bit of money for most people.”

    ——————————————–

    The amount was less than $300,000 according to the Juneau Empire article cited @144. Of that, nearly $200,000 was the cost of a complaint she brought against HERSELF. So yes, according to those geniuses at the Juneau Empire, actual complaints brought by third parties amounted to less than $100,000.

    And those are costs to the STATE, not Palin personally.

  173. Bow down before Queen Sarah or prepare to experience her wrath as she refudiates all who disavow her. Oh, never mind, her minions do it for her. LOL!!

    I don’t know if Ms. Gustafson is gay or straight, a teacher or an actor, but anyone on the right who throws stones at those on the left for being gay, being angry, or wearing a mullet, sure does need to tread very carefully. There are many Republicans who are gay (Craig, Graham, etc.), who are very angry (Beck, Hannity, and Joe Wilson), and sure do love their mullets, too (Rick Renzi).

    We have more in common than most realize. What a shame it is that we waste this precious time trading barbs over someone as shallow as Ms. Palin is.

    We all need better representation in government, locally, and at the state and federal level. If I remember correctly, that 10% unemployment rate applies across the board, and not just to a particular party affiliation.

    Pick a better leader, please.

  174. NC Cop @190:

    Zuzu @ 178.

    “I’m well aware of the Senate, Zuzu.”
    ——————————————————

    Oh, so you’re just not aware that the Senate is part of Congress. Got it.

    As to the rest of your comment, care to explain EXACTLY what the Democrats in the House of Representatives did from January 2007 to September 2008 to cause the financial meltdown?

  175. NC Cop,

    ““Though I’m sure you’ll somehow just spin an ad hominem out of it somehow.”

    Not at all, Austin. I’m not a democrat, remember!!”

    “Love hearing all the liberal morons talking about the “truth” and “libel”.

    How do yo spell hypocrite?

    D-E-M-O-C-R-A-T.”

    “Keep drinking the Kool-Aid, good little Obama zombie”

    What was that about short memories and hypocrisy?

  176. LOL!! That’s your answer Zuzu???? It was ONLY $300,000 and the cost went to the state?!?!

    That’s priceless! No wonder the economy keeps tanking with thinking like that in charge!!!

  177. NC @195:

    Well NC Cop, I was correcting your claim that the complaints cost Palin $500,000. So I guess you acknowledge you were wrong on that score.

    Of course you don’t mention the fact that nearly TWO THIRDS of that cost was for a complaint that Palin filed AGAINST HERSELF. Guess she wasn’t all that concerned about the cost to the state, was she?

  178. As a longstanding, highly successful and respected state credentialed educator, I was appalled that a teacher was hanging up a sign which was obviously designed to cause outrage. I resent any member of my profession doing something so undignified for any reason!

  179. While we waste time arguing about this crap, Washington is about to screw us over with a few more mega-spending bills we can’t afford.

    Who will stop them? Sarah? Someone else?

    The Democrats don’t have the will.

    A handful of Republicans, no more than that, seem to have the will.

    Who will pull us out of this miserable $#!+hole we’re in?

    Who cares about Sarah’s damn eyebrows or the obnoxious “theater tech” or whatever the hell that creature is. KEEP YOUR EYE ON THE BALL as our country is being spent completely to hell by our corrupt, kleptocratic, economically illiterate “leaders” who desperately need to be bounced with all haste from the halls of power.

  180. “As to the rest of your comment, care to explain EXACTLY what the Democrats in the House of Representatives did from January 2007 to September 2008 to cause the financial meltdown?”

    Actually it goes past 2007 and 2008:

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/09/25/fox-news-blames-democrats-financial-crisis-bill-clinton-agrees

    “Going very much against the media meme that the current financial crisis is all George W. Bush and the Republicans’ fault, Bill Clinton on Thursday told ABC’s Chris Cuomo that Democrats for years have been “resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress or by me when I was President to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac”

    Ouch!!!

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/09/20/ibd-carter-more-blame-financial-crisis-bush-or-mccain

    “To hear today’s Democrats, you’d think all this started in the last couple years. But the crisis began much earlier. The Carter-era Community Reinvestment Act forced banks to lend to uncreditworthy borrowers, mostly in minority areas.”

    Ouch again!!

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/03/22/maddow-blames-financial-crisis-republican-deregulation-ignores-overwh

    “MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow accurately blamed a bill enacted in 1999 for today’s financial crisis, but in so doing exclusively pointed accusatory fingers at its Republican sponsors while totally ignoring the overwhelming Democrat support it received in both Chambers of Congress.”

    So what difference does it make. I could post many more instances, but I doubt you’ll even acknowledge them, right?

  181. Wait a minute! I’m confused! The Juneau Empire reported via AP that Palin’s legal fees exceeded $500k.

    And they list the lawsuits.

    http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/032209/sta_413174352.shtml

  182. Look at you Libs blame Palin, an unelected and unaccountable citizen, for your problems. Then you try to blame the Republicans who are in the minority and don’t have the votes to stop anything Obama wants since Dems control the White House, House, Senate, Supreme Court, most state governorships and have a lying, slobbering Media who will do anything for them. Then it’s on to Bush Bush Bush blah blah blah but silly Liberals, that was TWENTY months ago. Your Chicago Jesus quite simply is a disaster. You know it, so you attack Palin to try to deflect the attention from him and his vacationing-at-the-taxpayer-expense-and-always-has-a-snarl-on-her-face wife.

  183. Let’s see, she left in the middle of her term as governor when she was earning $125,000 a year. She now earns up to $100,000 for a single speech and last year made an estimated $12 million.

    Someone earning a buck isn’t a problem. Someone leaving public office they swore an oath to fulfill and then IMMEDIATELY increasing their income x 100 has to leave a sour taste in anyone’s mouth. Anyone rational, that is.

  184. Listen, even if any of this were true, it doesn’t matter. This issue is not about Kathleen G., but about Palin. Kathleen could have said she was a supermodel who studied quantum physics in her spare time. That FACT that matters is that Palin grimaced at the word teacher, and let us not forget that she and her crew broke laws AND her arguments had no substance worth more than frog piss.

  185. Wow! I stopped by to see the Evangelical take on the Homer video and expected some Christian values and virtues would be evident in the post and discussion. Silly me.

  186. “Well NC Cop, I was correcting your claim that the complaints cost Palin $500,000. So I guess you acknowledge you were wrong on that score.”

    Hardly.

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/24/palin.ethics/index.html

    “The pressure and financial cost of such ethics investigations are a major reason cited by the governor in her decision not to finish her term. She said her family is facing more than $500,000 in legal fees and has set up a legal defense fund to help defray the costs.

    Many of the complaints filed against Palin or her staff have been dismissed.”

    Of course, if none of these ethics charges are “polictically motivated” why did most of them come after she was running for vice President? Hmmmmmmmmmm……

  187. This might clear things up for some of you who just buy into everything you read that fits your sad world view:http://homertribune.com/2009/08/musical-comedy-caps-pier-one-season/

  188. “Someone earning a buck isn’t a problem. Someone leaving public office they swore an oath to fulfill and then IMMEDIATELY increasing their income x 100 has to leave a sour taste in anyone’s mouth. Anyone rational, that is.”

    So Sayeth AUSTIN!!!!!

    You are NOT rational if you don’t agree with him!

  189. If Obama the Kenyan Muslim, is doing such a good job, why are there so many Liberal trolls flocking to this site to defend him. His record should stand on its own. And that’s the problem. His record DOES stand on its own. Which is why Obama and Democrats in general are facing horrible poll numbers now. In fact, when you think of it, there’s not ONE SINGLE THING this administration has done right. They’re a complete disaster, so bad as to make Jimmy Carter look great.

  190. Palinfan,

    I’m just looking at the data. Job and income growth from 2000 – 2007 were the lowest in several generations, and the point is that the Republican ideology or plan hasn’t changed one bit since then.

    Also the fact that on Day One, Obama took office in what was already the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression. This makes every criticism of the Republican legacy valid.

    Also the fact that Congress has been paralyzed by an unprecedented increase in parliamentary tactics by the minority party such as the filibuster and holds. Our representatives can’t represent the majority because the minority won’t allow up-or-down votes.

    History does not start anew every 4 years. For 8 years listened to conservatives blame Clinton for every ill turn, I think you can handle 20 months of the same.

    And yes, unlike yourself, I can provide sources for every assertion I’ve made here.

  191. Not only did Kathleen put on a play that involved people dressed in drag (oh my, so did Shakespeare!!) but she did it with the “energy bonus” Palin paid out to Alaskans to ensure our state would support her vice presidential bid. So really, you can thank Sarah for the drag, and for the $5000 it raised to support our local family planning clinic.

    And Kathleen teaches theater, she directs plays, she fund raises for local causes, aka she does more than 99.99% of people to support their communities including almost all of you, I’m certain.

  192. “Someone earning a buck isn’t a problem. Someone leaving public office they swore an oath to fulfill and then IMMEDIATELY increasing their income x 100 has to leave a sour taste in anyone’s mouth. Anyone rational, that is.”

    Didn’t Obama leave office after about 100 days of accomplishing nothing as a Senator to lead the country down the drain? What experience does this man have? What did he ever accomplish? He’s a joke! Go home, Obamas! Put someone in who actually LIKES this country and wants it to succeed.

  193. NC Cop @199:

    So you take back your implication that the Democrats were responsible because they took back the House in 2007? Okay.

  194. NC Cop,

    I stand by the common-sense, plain-folks idea that you don’t break a promise. And when you do, you don’t profit enormously from it. Sarah gets the stink-eye for a $7 million book deal signed before she even resigned, and she deserves it. Yes, that’s a judgment call I’m making, and I am hardly the only one.

    Speaking of rationality, I’m still awaiting your response to the labor and income figures I provided.

  195. You dumb bunnies. The point is that Sarah Plain reaction was to a woman identifying herself as a teacher.

    Whether the woman really is or isn’t a teacher is irrelevant.

  196. EdouardNo Gravatar
    August 10th, 2010 | 1:10 pm | #198

    ditto…

  197. “So you take back your implication that the Democrats were responsible because they took back the House in 2007? Okay.”

    LOl!! Obama is that you? You keep talking in circles, Austin! The meltdown WAS because of the democrats, it goes back BEFORE the dems being in charge of the Congress since 2007, but also includes their disastrous policies since then. Remember the minimum wage hike and the Republicans warned it would hurt small businesses and increase unemployment?? Guess what? It DID!!!

    Keep playing your games, Austin, you’re quite amusing.

  198. Have you seen this video.

    Let’s play “Name that Party”.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/08/10/video-name-that-party-in-a-campaign-ad/

  199. NC Cop @205:

    In your comment @185, you were conflating claims about Palin’s personal legal fees and the cost to the state ($100,000 when her own complaint is subtracted).

    Most here are claiming that she did a selfless thing because of the cost to the state of the complaints. If you’re saying she quit to make money for her own purposes, I won’t argue with you there.

  200. Umm… She is a teacher. I have theatre classes at my high school that teach THEATRE TECH. Just like art and music and Physical Education are classes so is Theatre Tech. You are learning a valuable skill. You can go to college and study theatre tech too!

  201. So now that its been established that your headline is patently false, she is a teacher of Theater tech, are you going to post a correction or continue your simulation of reality?

  202. Aggressive sign?

    Scaaaaaary.

  203. Palinfan,

    “Didn’t Obama leave office after about 100 days of accomplishing nothing as a Senator to lead the country down the drain?”

    Obama left office because he was elected president. Palin left office because, well, hmm.

    What experience does this man have?

    Senator, for one. Head of the Harvard Law Review, for another. Oh I know, that’s irrelevant since we’ve now decided that higher education equals elitism and mediocrity is good. But really it’s irrelevant, the point is that a majority of voters liked his experience enough to elect him. A numerical majority that our last president couldn’t claim.

    “Put someone in who actually LIKES this country and wants it to succeed.”

    Your credibility goes out the window on this one. I would be willing to guarantee that anyone who thinks Obama is a secret America-hater has a strictly limited media diet and has forgotten how to exist outside the radical right blog / talk-radio bubble.

  204. A_reader
    August 10th, 2010 | 1:24 pm | #214

    You dumb bunnies. The point is that Sarah Plain reaction was to a woman identifying herself as a teacher.

    Whether the woman really is or isn’t a teacher is irrelevant.
    ====================
    I’m not sure how I would respond to someone who said to me, “…and you swore on your precious bible..”. And then announced that they were a teacher.

    That would definitely give me pause.

  205. Sarah Palin was born in Kenya. I read it on the internet so it’s definitely true.

  206. “If you’re saying she quit to make money for her own purposes, I won’t argue with you there.”

    I have no idea what you are talking about or how you arrived at that conclusion.

    But that’s nothing new today.

  207. She is not a teacher ; she is a known Democrat activist in that area; she never supported or even voted for Sarah Palin. She was highly critical of her when she was in office.

    Gustafson is listed as a “theater tech” at Homer High School. In addition to those duties, she’s on staff at the Homer public radio station and on the board of directors for a family planning clinic in town. From her bio:

    Kathleen Gustafson: I’ve been on the board since 2003. I feel like volunteering with KBFPC is the natural compliment to my work in Youth Theater and public radio. When I worked at Smoky Bay Learning Center, I witnessed directly the good work that Family Planning does in health education programs and I want to do what I can to be a part of it.

    Far from an apolitical teacher who just happens to be set off by Palin resigning mid-term, there’s arguably more than meets the eye when it comes to Gustafson’s politics.

  208. At this point there is literally nothing in this post that is true. But I implore you to leave it up as fine evidence of your many failings in life.

  209. NC Cop,

    Never said the Democrats in the 90s were blameless. But who took over Congress well BEFORE 2000?

    And are we saying now that the increase in the minimum wage is to blame for a decade of zero growth? What about the repeal of Glass-Steagall, or corporations shipping our jobs overseas with the government’s blessing? That is the MAJOR issue that cuts across both Democrats and Republicans.

    Look, what I started out saying is that the discourse has become more partisan, emotional, and intellectually-dishonest. When pressed with data you’re either unable or unwilling to even try to refute, you just point a finger and say “Quick, look that way!” You’ll forgive years of bad policy just so that your team doesn’t look bad.

  210. Who said she was apolitical? Why do you have to be apolitical to accost a public servant for abandoning her post?

  211. “Senator, for one.”

    Oooooooooo, for two whole years. The last two years of his Senator term he spent running for president. Very impressive.

    “the point is that a majority of voters liked his experience enough to elect him.”

    Ridiculous. They elected a rock star. They elected a slick talker with a smile it had nothing to do with his “experince”. But as long as YOU believe it, that’s all that counts.

    Apparently that’s the end of your long list of Obama’s experince. Well done!!

  212. NC Cop @ 216:

    First, I’m not Austin. Try to follow the thread, please.

    Second, the fact that the Dems were not “in charge of Congress since 2007″ but only one house of Congress still escapes you. Really, try to grasp that simple concept.

    Third, you suggested that the Dems did something in the year and a half they held the House that caused the meltdown. Very well, you’ve changed your mind on that one.

    By the way, the Republicans controlled BOTH houses of Congress for all but one year from 1995 to 2009.

    http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgovernment/l/bl_party_division_2.htm

  213. Not a teacher? That woman taught my child to read. She has my respect.

  214. Correction:

    Republicans controlled BOTH houses of Congress for all but one year from 1995 to 2007.

  215. As Sarah Palin stated in her resignation speech ( and stated in many interviews); she resigned because she recognized the cost that the frivolous ethics complaints were having on her state and she saw how much of her staff’s time and her own time were forced to deal with those issues.

    “I resigned because of frivolous ethics complaints filed through a loophole in Alaska’s laws that enabled opponents of my Administration to pin down over 80% of the time of government workers, force me to spend my own money to defend myself while governor, and cost the state over two million dollars. Since I finished EVERY major objective of my first term early, and knowing these attacks were because of me, I stepped down to allow the Executive branch to function properly and then stepped UP and took the fight NATIONALLY against the most leftist President and administration in US history knowing full-well that it may destroy my political future. There are other things more important than me, including my state and my country and I chose to STAND UP and do something about it.”–Sarah Palin

    Sarah Palin told us all why she resigned when she resigned. If some people still don’t get it, well, that’s their problem

    The media has lied about her banning of books, forcing victims to pay for their own rape kits, and her stance on sex education. They have tried to portray her as a religious nut, even though she was elected and maintained a high approval rating as governor of one of the least religious states in the country. They have portrayed her an unintelligent, even though she has effectively negotiated the one of the largest private sector infrastructure projects in North America’s history when her predecessors had done little to move that project forward in the previous three decades. The media have portrayed as greedy for making money after she stepped aside from the Governor’s office, while completely ignoring the fact the Obamas made more than 5 million dollars in his first year in office and a prominent Republican purchased a house in the San Diego area for the same amount that the media claims that Governor Palin has made since her resignation.

    They have maligned her family by spreading rumors of divorce and claiming her youngest son isn’t really hers. This is all is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg.

  216. You do need to make a correction. Playing a singer in a drag queen band is not the same thing as BEING a singer in a drag queen band.

    I’m completely on Palin’s side here, but we do ourselves no good and much harm when we get our facts wrong.

  217. NC Cop,

    She asked what qualifications and I answered. Just the same as one would expect to see on a resume. And the point that he was elected by a popular majority is valid, when you consider that Bush was not. You can disagree with Obama’s policies, but when you go out on a limb then you’re putting yourself at odds with half the country. Half the country are traitors and worse by your logic. That is not patriotism, that’s division.

    Seeing how you’re just outright ignoring the most substantive arguments here, regarding selective reasoning and labor and income data, you can pretty much continue talking to yourself at this point.

  218. “And are we saying now that the increase in the minimum wage is to blame for a decade of zero growth?”

    Not at all. Zuzu asked me @193

    “As to the rest of your comment, care to explain EXACTLY what the Democrats in the House of Representatives did from January 2007 to September 2008 to cause the financial meltdown?”

    I provided some past history of the democras being resonsible. As far as the hike in minimum wage, it was a factor for an increase in unemployment, but certainly not all of it.

    “What about the repeal of Glass-Steagall, or corporations shipping our jobs overseas with the government’s blessing? That is the MAJOR issue that cuts across both Democrats and Republicans.”

    I absolutely agree with you on that one! BOTH parties share a measure of responsibility, without a doubt. However, that’s not is what is being said from the White House or the media, is it? Every time we turn on the news we hear about how it was the Republicans who were respnosible for the “mess” while the Democrats get a pass.

  219. Golly, this governin’ stuff sure is hard ‘n I wanna be on the tv. Better make up some 100% COMPLETELY FABRICATED LAWSUIT COSTS n git-r-done.

    - Sarah Palin, 2009

  220. If Obama the Kenyan Muslim, is doing such a good job, why are there so many Liberal trolls flocking to this site to defend him.

    Because, as a wise man once pointed out, all that is required for evil (in this case, the evil of liars who use such terms as “the Kenyan Muslim”) to triumph is for good men to do nothing. Defending facts against Palinista slurs and dishonesty is a full-time job these days.

  221. “Half the country are traitors and worse by your logic. That is not patriotism, that’s division.”

    Please show me where I said anyone that likes Obama is a traitor? As far as division, the dems have done wonders in that area. The “F*ck you, we won” attitude is alive and well with the dems.

    “And the point that he was elected by a popular majority is valid, when you consider that Bush was not.”

    Indeed. It’s also completely irrelevant. Bush won using the system set up by our government, just because you didn’t like the outcome doesn’t mean he did something wrong.

    “Seeing how you’re just outright ignoring the most substantive arguments here, regarding selective reasoning and labor and income data, you can pretty much continue talking to yourself at this point.”

    Yeah, that’s the post I’ve been waiting for. Par for course. When you can’t argue points, you take your ball and go home.

    Well done!

  222. Sarah Palin’s Alaska distributes a yearly check to all of its residents, money which comes from the private energy sector.

    Do you know what socialism actually is? Hint: it’s more than just a pejorative for “Democrat”.

    Sarah Palin is objectively one of the most socialist governors we’ve ever had.

  223. NC Cop @225:

    “I have no idea what you are talking about or how you arrived at that conclusion.

    But that’s nothing new today.”

    ————————————

    Oh I’m pretty sure that wouldn’t be new with you on any day.

  224. Do is really matter what profession the person maintains as an occupation? The fact of the matter is Palin was once again snarky and disrespectful to a citizen she desires to represent. We are all entitled to our opinions, and if she wants to be commander-in-chief, she needs to prove she can respect all those opinions. Once again, she proves that she lacks emotional control and cannot treat people that disagree with her with any form of dignity.

  225. “When you can’t argue points, you take your ball and go home.”

    When you argue points and get nothing but evasions, there isn’t even a game happening. Might as well go home.

    I gave you hard figures for the economy under undiluted Republican leadership. You’re still ignoring them.

    When you can’t argue logic, stick to slangy schoolyard taunts. I get it. It’s pretty much what I expected, but a man has to try.

  226. “First, I’m not Austin. Try to follow the thread, please.”

    My apologies. It’s hard to tell one ignorant ranter from the other. I’ll try harder.

    “Second, the fact that the Dems were not “in charge of Congress since 2007″ but only one house of Congress still escapes you. Really, try to grasp that simple concept.”

    As I have explained before, you must have missed it, Congress is in charge of FISCAL policy, get it? That means they propose the bills that affect the E-C-O-N-O-M-Y, get it? Not the Senate. It’s basic U.S. government stuff, look it up.

    “Third, you suggested that the Dems did something in the year and a half they held the House that caused the meltdown. Very well, you’ve changed your mind on that one.”

    Please show me where I changed my mind. I gave you the three examples of how the disastrous policies of the dems since Carter are largely responsible for the economy today, I then told you how the minimum wage hike that the democrats were patting themselves on the back for, increase unemployment.

    Why is this so hard for you? Should I type slower?

    http://www.jobbankusa.com/News/Unemployment/unemployment_rising_among_least_educated.html

    Following the first federal minimum wage hike in nearly a decade, the U.S. Labor Department reported an increase in overall unemployment in September, with the most significant increase occurring among the least educated Americans. And as the overall labor market participation rate rose, vulnerable groups like African-American teens and high school dropouts saw their participation rates decrease.

    “Politicians continue to ignore the overwhelming evidence that minimum wage hikes increase unemployment among economically vulnerable groups like high school dropouts and African American teens,” said Dr. Jill Jenkins, Chief Economist at the Employment Policies Institute.”

    You’re getting very boring.

  227. I’ll stop arguing with Republicans when they start flipping the script from the same policies that gave us a decade of no growth. Until current Republicans start differentiating themselves from those of 2000 – 2007, every single argument made against Bush is valid.

    A = A

    Come on, I know at least some of you remember your Ayn Rand.

  228. “It’s pretty much what I expected, but a man has to try.”

    Keep trying, because so far you haven’t proven a thing, other than you sound just like the rest of the left wing zombies who spit out talking points every five minutes.

    Try thinking for yourself for a change.

  229. You’re quoting an economist from the Employment Policies Institute. That would be the same Employment Policies Institute that was created by Rick Berman, a lobbyist for the restaurant and tobacco industries. Any economist at EPI already has a conflict of interest, since their benefactors are paid directly by people who have a vested interest in keeping their employees’ pay low.

    Real substantive source you’ve got there.

    Next.

  230. That FACT that matters is that Palin grimaced at the word teacher

    …So what? so does any parent who has to teach his child that the Marxist pap that is “taught” in NEA controlled schools is rubbish, but that you have to agree with the “teacher” so that you do not become a 10 year old target for communists to make an example of so as to keep other intelligent students in line. When “teachers” stop putting themselves before children, people who are not SEIU, ACORN, NEA thugs will stop grimacing.

    Seeing how you’re just outright ignoring the most substantive arguments here, regarding selective reasoning and labor and income data, you can pretty much continue talking to yourself at this point.

    …Wow, That is the pot calling the kettle black. Tell you what, We the People are done “talking” to fools, idiots, traitors, frauds, union thugs, self serving anti-American types of every stripe. So keep your Palin derangement to yourself, as well as you bootlicking fawning of your Chicago god-king. Keep telling each other how cool and smart you are, and how Real Americans of the fly over country are nothing. Cause in the end, I hope you like surprises. Your going to get one.

    Ut sementem feceris, ita metes

  231. “Real substantive source you’ve got there.”

    Ah, yes, when you can’t argue the facts, attack the source. Right out of the dem playbook.

    So can you refute any of that information Austin, or just dismiss it?

    Next.

  232. I’m compelled to ask myself how many of these folks are vocal due to policy, how many are are race based and how many still haven’t put down the glass pipe and put the shrooms away? To see so many who siddle up to Palin in spite of what she doesn’t represent is a testimony against Obama’s Book”The Audacity of Hope”. I guess many of you “Christians” don’t subjectively study the word but it is written” Do not cast your pearls to the swine”. Your cultural hatred for that is different placed you against that which you know is in your best interests and you shot yourselves in the foot by returning to listen to rhetoric which serves the country no good purpose and apparently you’re now looking down the barrel of the same shotgun. Why?? “If the People who asked you trust them to drive you to the future, drove the car off into a deep ditch now come back and ask you to give them the keys again, do you give them the keys???

  233. With all the problems we have, I cannot believe anyone could get so excited about this exchange, on either side, to deem it worthy of comment.

    Reading this blog and the vicious comments left here, I cannot believe I am at a Catholic website. Being Christian is more than going to church on Sunday, it is how you deport yourself every day in every encounter with everyone you meet. This “dialogue” does not betray a shred of Christian decency.

  234. “Until current Republicans start differentiating themselves from those of 2000 – 2007, every single argument made against Bush is valid.”

    So Sayeth Austin again!!!

  235. NC Cop,

    Lordy. “Try thinking for yourself, you left wing zombie” IS a Republican talking point.

    I gave you statistics compiled by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, collected under both Democratic and Republican administrations. Unlike yourself, I’ve never tossed around labels like “zombie” or “moron”.

    I can’t help but suspect that the simple fact that someone is disagreeing with you means that they’re “just spitting out talking points”. Republican reality is the only reality, anything else is just spin, right?

  236. “So Sayeth Austin again!!!”

    Yes, that is what I said.

    Now would you like to actually bother to describe why I’m wrong or are we just trading snark here? Because I can get that from my kid’s 12 year old friends the next time he has a sleepover.

  237. “I gave you hard figures for the economy under undiluted Republican leadership. You’re still ignoring them.”

    Not at all. You seem to have “forgotten” that you basically just agreed that Republicans AND democrats were responsible for the economic problems we have. Yet suddenly it’s the Republican leadership alone that is the culprit.

    You were saying something about hypocrisy earlier?

  238. “Because I can get that from my kid’s 12 year old friends the next time he has a sleepover.”

    From the logic of your arguments, I would say that’s where your getting your facts, too.

    But please, Austin, what is it that you want proven? What are you saying because you are all over the place?

  239. “Ah, yes, when you can’t argue the facts, attack the source. Right out of the dem playbook.

    So can you refute any of that information Austin, or just dismiss it?”

    Sure. Causation does not equal correlation. The only thing you described was first A happened, then B. I can just as well say first I had some ice cream, then I went to bed, so one should not eat ice cream before operating heavy machinery.

    Yet you have me at a disadvantage. I’m being asked to respond to your sources, industry-funded and biased as they may be, and you won’t return the courtesy by looking at my own sources, reports on recent economic history published by non-partisan federal departments. I keep bringing this up because it just shows your intellectual dishonesty.

  240. I’ve given you links to numerous aritcles indicating the democrats disastrous policies of the past and present have a LARGE part to do with our current situation.

    Naturally, you ignore them or dismiss them, so what’s the point in trying? You will not look at anything that does not fit your view of the world.

  241. “If the People who asked you trust them to drive you to the future, drove the car off into a deep ditch now come back and ask you to give them the keys again, do you give them the keys???

    …Talk about the mother of all talking points!

    …Remember, Isldur’s fall was through pride, a know it all attitude, and the seduction of a powerful evil figurehead. Be careful who you listen to, they may have your downfall plotted.

    As far a Christians not liking your God King, it is beholden to us to oppose evil wherever we find it. In Gospel based churches that is. When a church becomes more fixated on “social justice” than the word of God, you get Obots.

    2 Thes 1: 8 “In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:”

    Ut sementem feceris, ita metes

  242. “I keep bringing this up because it just shows your intellectual dishonesty.”

    Perhaps if your reading comprehension were better you would have seen a previous post where I said @ 257:

    “Not at all. You seem to have “forgotten” that you basically just agreed that Republicans AND democrats were responsible for the economic problems we have. Yet suddenly it’s the Republican leadership alone that is the culprit.

    You were saying something about hypocrisy earlier?”

    Try and keep up.

  243. Most of you, including the Gateway Pundit himself, are only proving what sane people already know – you are all mentally unsound people disconnected from reality. Disregarding everything, including Palin, that people can legitimately disagree on.. this woman is provably a certified teacher, of, yes, the subject of theatre tech. And as at least a dozen people have mentioned, Hedwig and the Angry Inch is a fictional band from a musical that she was involved in, because she is, yes, a theater tech teacher.

    Your inability to recognize a simple and proven fact makes it no surprise that you right-wingers have mind-bogglingly incorrect and often simply stupid ideas about actually complex issues.

  244. You are all mentally unsound people disconnected from reality.

    …Is that what the dictionary says a demo-rat or Obot supporter is? In that case I would agree.

    …It is not much of a stretch that dozens of leftist perverts would know all about a play starring a homosexual transvestite and be able to identify that is exactly what is going on from a single picture.

    Nope. No question at all.

  245. “Libtards” should stop responding to this drivel. We can’t use reason with those who are unreasonable. Empirical evidence means nothing to those who believe what they believe, damned the facts.

  246. I’m curious, though, Austin. Since you fault the Republican “leadership” for the poor economy in the past, does the democrat leadership bear the responsibliltiy of our current situation.

    After all, the dems have had Congress ince 2007 and have had BOTH houses since 2008, as well as the White House.

    So, naturally, by your logic the dems are responsible for our current situation, right?

  247. -When- did I say Republican leadership alone is the problem?

    What I’ve been responding to is the opposite charge, that somehow the world started anew in March of last year and that Obama is to solely responsible for what was ALREADY the worst recession since the 1930s, before he even set foot in the door.

    The point that you keep seeming to miss no matter how many times I mention it is that this isn’t about how Obama needs to be defended, it’s the retarded level of debate that exists now. Ignoring what happened in the recent past when it doesn’t fit your narrative. I keep hammering you on actually bothering to look at the BLS numbers because the very fact that you refuse to is only proving my point.

    I know it’s more complex than “my team is right and yours is wrong”, and that may be all you’re used to seeing on these blogs.

  248. “Empirical evidence means nothing to those who believe what they believe, damned the facts.”

    Isn’t that the motto of the democratic party?

  249. “I keep hammering you on actually bothering to look at the BLS numbers because the very fact that you refuse to is only proving my point.”

    I did look at the numbers, Austin.

    And?

  250. NC Cop,

    I did look at your sources, unlike yourself with mine. And the only ones I’ve tossed your way were from the census and the Bureau of Labor Statistics, as close to nonpartisan as one could expect. Your article was written by someone paid by a tobacco and fast-food industry lobbyist. They are not equivalent at all.

  251. “What I’ve been responding to is the opposite charge, that somehow the world started anew in March of last year and that Obama is to solely responsible for what was ALREADY the worst recession since the 1930s, before he even set foot in the door. ”

    You mean the worst recession that dems have helped to create? Obama’s had a year and a half and over $1 trillion. What does he have to show for it?

  252. “I did look at the numbers, Austin.

    And?”

    And? From 2000 – 2007, a gov’t completely given over to the same Republican thinking that your pushing presided over the worst long-term economic decline since the 1940s. Objectively. This is shown by real declines in household income and employment. No opinions, no spin, no snark, just numbers.

    And? WTF do you mean, “and?”

  253. “They are not equivalent at all.”

    So Sayeth Austin, yet AGAIN!!

    You’re so pompous. It’s amusing watching your and your self righteous indignation while slamming people left and right for not agreeing with you.

    You deem what is “worthy” do be a source and what isn’t. You claim its all about numbers, yet completely put aside the numbers in that article.

    “Following the first federal minimum wage hike in nearly a decade, the U.S. Labor Department reported an increase in overall unemployment in September,”

    So are you saying that this FACT is untrue or that only your government statistics are the ones that matter?

  254. “And? WTF do you mean, “and?””

    I’m sorry, I’ll try again. You blame ALL of those numbers on Republican “leadership” yet also acknowledge that democrats are just as responsible for the problems that we’re in.

    So which is it, Austin? It seems your only goal here is to absolve Obama of any and all responsbility in our current situation.

    Pretty sad.

  255. BTW, if Sara Palin rolled her eyes at anything I said, that would reassure me that I am a better human being than she.

  256. “So which is it, Austin? It seems your only goal here is to absolve Obama of any and all responsbility in our current situation.”

    Wrong. I acknowledged the Democrats’ being in cahoots with multinational corporations’ amoral disregard for the American worker. IT’S NOT ABOUT THE PARTIES. Get it?

    I don’t think you do. I’ve had two main points here, one being the retarded level of discourse, the ad hominem, the selective logic – all of which you’ve conveniently demonstrated, you’ve been kind enough to be Exhibit A. Two being the backing of the same ideas that got us into this mess. I don’t give a f*** about Obama and his political future. And when you see me in a Democratic blog, you’ll see a lot more criticizing of Dems. But we’re not talking about them right now, we’re talking about your ideas, your team. And you’re dodging. Running, trying to distract, “But, but, look over there!” Sorry, Charlie. That dog won’t hunt.

    I’ve made my goals explicit more than once. Rewind and check your reading comprehension skills.

  257. Who the hell cares what she is… tinker, tailor or candlestick maker or teacher or activist or what —- the fact of the matter is she targeted a private citizen (emphasis on the word PRIVATE) who is not in office or running for office. What was the point??? Ah yes, to fabricate another opportunity for criticism and divert attention from what is going on in Congress… nice try. To those who admire Sarah, she can take care of herself… concentrate on issues that are current… like Pelosi calling back the House to vote on another bailout; tossing good money after bac!!!

  258. And now I’ve got to get to work. Two hours is long enough for this. It’s been real.

  259. On linkedin she says she is a theater technician. The Smokey school she worked at is out of business. 2006 it shut down. The karate classes they taught is moved elswhere.
    She must have taken a chunk out of her alaska fund check to make the huge banner.
    Is she the babe that uses a dead salmon instead of potpouri?

    Homer High School offers 96 classes and lists the teachers. She is not listed. The above poster can show where there is a theatre tech class?

  260. wow did a lefty just call palin a socialist my irony meter just exploded btw progressive turd you better than her please whatever btw to the lefty twit who called her a socialist you probably meant to say she did not steal from the rich

  261. It really speaks volumes about people when they have to constantly use schoolyard terms like “unhinged lefty”. Are you all still in junior high? You sound like the girls in “Mean Girls”. So petty. So willing to say the most horrible things about anybody with whom you disagree. You defend Palin as if she were your mom, yet everybody *but* you is the extremist? Give me a break. The harder you scream that everybody EXCEPT YOU is crazy, the crazier you sound. Yes, keep calling liberals “unhinged”. We’re not the ones showing up at rallies with rifles claiming that “Obama gon take our guns away!”

  262. I urge you to read the new post on Gateway.

  263. Fine, fine….

    “Following the first federal minimum wage hike in nearly a decade, the U.S. Labor Department reported an increase in overall unemployment in September”

    I’m saying correlation doesn’t equal causation. Do you know what that means?

    Now as for the rest….

    “You’re so pompous. It’s amusing watching your and your self righteous indignation while slamming people left and right for not agreeing with you.”

    Right. Calling people who disagree with you zombies and morons isn’t pompous at all. My bad, I just took your arguments apart and addressed each premise in turn. Oh right, I used a big word here and there. How pompous and elitist of me.

    “You deem what is “worthy” do be a source and what isn’t. You claim its all about numbers, yet completely put aside the numbers in that article.”

    If you truly can’t tell the difference between an industry-funded think-tank and government labor statistics, then there’s no point even bothering. Whatever it is you think you’ve been doing here, thinking isn’t it.

  264. Corruptsocialist,

    I said that Palin redistributed the wealth of oil companies to everyone in Alaska, regardless of their need or any other consideration.

    And like I said, “socialist” actually means something. Apparently you think it just means “left-wing idiot I disagree with”.

    Read a book sometime.

  265. Homer Alaska

    Small drinking town with a fishing problem.

    Lots of boats and guides for halibut fishing. Right off the Homer Spit. There are 2-3 independent theaters in town. I do not see theatre in the performing arts class schedule for the school. They have a theater and music programs.

    I smell some friends of abortion are hitting this discussion. We call the concern trolls.
    Abortion advocates often have a deep hatred for healthy mothers and what they bring to great families.

  266. If Sarah Palin is the worst Governor Ever, than Barak Obama is the BIGGEST LIAR WHO EVER HELD THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT.

  267. “If you truly can’t tell the difference between an industry-funded think-tank and government labor statistics, then there’s no point even bothering. Whatever it is you think you’ve been doing here, thinking isn’t it.”

    Of course not, because I don’t agree with you.

    What was it I was saying about being pompous?

  268. AustinSCNo Gravatar
    August 10th, 2010 | 3:13 pm | #285

    Condescending, much?

  269. “And you’re dodging. Running, trying to distract, “But, but, look over there!” Sorry, Charlie. That dog won’t hunt.”

    I have no reason to dodge, run from, or distract someone the likes of you. You’re an amusement, nothing more. I can hear drivel like yours from Olbermann, Maddow, Matthews, etc.

  270. So just because she’s not a big business owner, or figure of prominent power she gets the eye roll?!? If she could ACTUALLY EXPLAIN the eye roll, then maybe her whole persona could be perceived differently. But she did not explain it, all it does is give people who do not like her all the more reason to do so. Its like a tacit “oh you’re one of ‘those’ little peons, and I wasted my breath on her”
    You guys are defending this celebrity who obviously feels it’s ok to give the clever eye roll instead of saying anything of substance. She could of said “oh, and what do you teach?” No can’t do that, its BAD enough she is one! (right?) If she’s a teacher of any sort she must be part of the leftists, she couldn’t be a concerned non-conservative citizen…
    Another rub is the fact that its not that non-conservatives think she is powerful that gets non-conservatives riled. It is the way she gets defended by conservatives at any cost.
    Rediculous and sad! It just keeps reminding me of how the Nazi party’s oratory raised it to power and caused the world so much needless loss of life, suffering and pain. Extremists can not be considered a rational/sober choice, when reasonable people know to voice what is true. Silencing voices of reason and balance seems to be the conservative creedo these days. I am not for them.

  271. Democrats are crooked, conniving hypocrites. There is only one thing on earth that is lower than a Democrat…A republican.

  272. NC Cop @246:

    “As I have explained before, you must have missed it, Congress is in charge of FISCAL policy, get it? That means they propose the bills that affect the E-C-O-N-O-M-Y, get it? Not the Senate. It’s basic U.S. government stuff, look it up.”

    ———————————

    Oh my, this is rich. Seriously, you don’t know the difference between Congress and the House of Representatives? It’s basic U.S. government stuff, look it up.

  273. Jim Hoft this is the bombardier, closing in on the target, steady, steady, we’re beginning to take flak, steady, Flak becoming much heavier, steady, there throwing the kitchen sink at us now, steady, steady–BOMBS AWAY. Take that you sniveling change the subject from Moochshelle, demoncraps. It amazes me to no end how the argument can be so childish. Look she rolled her eyes, as if that some how is worse than spending millions of our money in Spain, or driving the country to ruin. Look around you loony leftites, upwards of 20 million out of work, oil drilling that makes work for thousands is being demonized. Where and when do you wake up. Carter tried this same approach, it made for gasoline lines that were miles long. He’s gone! then came sweet Willie, and he tried the same approach only 1994 saved his worthless butt. Now we have the daddy of them all, Obama whose actively trying
    to destroy this country, and you can’t see that, all you can see is a written reminder on Sarah’s hand, or she had the nerve to give birth to Trig, or she “rolled her eyes, as if one is equal to the other. Where do you get your priorities? The country can go to hell in a hand basket, but don’t you dare roll your eyes. You people are sick and need help.

  274. What is this pathetic love affair so many of you ahve with Palin? There are better, smarter, less ‘challenged’ Republican women to look up to than this hack. She even QUIT here job as Governor (an ELECTED office that she chose to run for in the first place) because it got too hard for her. She’s a step in the wrong direction, yet you all run about her like puppies at the teats of their momma hound. Shame on all of you for being sheep when, as Republicans, we should be siding ourselves with strong, intelligent, and thoughtful people.

  275. Oh, and when you attack someone like this teacher, at least do so with the facts (she is NOT in a band, she was doing a stage play. Though I guess theater is too leftists for some of you.) Geez, you’re as pathetic as the whiners on the left.

  276. Kieran C— the attack was started by the “teacher” not by Palin, and since when has defending ones self become a no-no. Do you expect all of us to sit back and take it like GWB did to his detriment? Sarah is one of us, and there is the danger for the left, she speaks as one of us, she acts like one of us. Thank you G-D for the gift of one of us. To you leftist get over your selves the sun doesn’t rise only on you.

  277. Kieran C you’re just pathetic. Asshat!!

  278. So obumer has no argument to make so he/she calls me an asshat. That’s the best you can do? Then the right is totally sunk.

    Again, jainphx, do your homework. Why did she confront Palin? because Palin abandoned her job as a Governor. You think that would make her suitable for VP? You do understand that if she represented all of us, we’d be walking around with sound bytes written on our hands, making up words, unable to complete full sentences during interviews, and claiming that by living close to another country we are somehow an expert on said country.

    Palin is the very worst thing to happen to the Right. And it is because of her that you will see fewer Republicans than we were hoping for this election.

    Of course, obumer will again call me an asshat. But then I wouldn’t expect anything intelligible to come from that particular source.

  279. Hmm – watched a few x and I think she is the real deal. One can tell that she doesn’t get riled, she is stating her opinion about S.P. – and really seems to speak like she IS a teacher, wife – and concerned citizen. I am a FT’s reader of eons, but I think you might just have this wrong. I hope so…the woman just seems genuine and not a fanatical type. Her face is different than the “drag queen”…

  280. Um, so… does it really matter if Kathleen Gustafson teaches American history or teaches theater arts? The issue, I thought, was Sarah Palin’s reaction, which was far more than an eye roll. It really wasn’t very respectful. Whatever Katheen Gustafson does for a living is moot – Sarah Palin was a former vice presidential candidate who appears to have presidential aspirations. The story isn’t about Kathleen, its about Sarah. I think she’s probably a great mom – and she did some good things in Alaska before she bailed. But if I were a teacher, I would have felt disrespected by Palin’s reaction. She reacted to Gustafson like she had said she was a prostitute, not a teacher…

  281. Are all the concern trolls from the pro abortion camp??

  282. Wow if AustinSC is a lefty than why is he complaining about palin being a socialist worse than chavez i mean i thought you people worshipped at the tit of socialism oh i guess it’s acceptable when obama is spreading the wealth around from the oil compnaies you abhor

  283. Btw obama is redistributing the wealth around but yet you only have room to criticize palin for doing it if only she had taxed the rich you would respect her more

  284. How come this woman isn’t getting into Governor Janet “Quitter” Napolitano’s face and asking Janet (DQ) – (Democrat-Quitter) Napolitano why she FLED, leaving Arizona on the brink of bankrupcy that the REPUBLICAN Brewer had to address and fix thanks to the “Napolitano YEARS of Deficit Spending”?

    Oh, Janet “Quitter” Napolitano who didn’t honor her oath of office, got a “promotion.” How’s that Advancing to one’s SECOND level of incompetance doing for ya’ll? Janet “Man-Made Disaster” Napolitano. First state-wide, now national.
    And Janet”Quitter” Napolitano is a front page celebrity as much as Palin, with such astute assurances as “The system worked.” No one knew the Homeland Security System was actually just some random Dutch guy.
    Of course there’s New Mexico Governor Richardson (DQUQ) (Democrat Quit, then Unquit.)
    If the folks were so incensed on principle at Palin, then how come they let these Democrat Quitters get a free pass?

  285. Follow the money.
    Teachers like her can’t get off their butts to answer pupils’ questions or take students on school field trips, how’d she get the initiative to buy the paper, spend hours writing it out, getting tape, pre-positioning… all that EFFORT we NEVER see IN the CLASSROOM.

    There haven’t been TEACHERS in schools since the previous generation retired in the mid-seventies and the new batch of ignorant “facilitators” fresh out of the worthless “Teachers’ Colleges” showed up to take their place.

  286. Jim Hoft: I implore you to please, please, please post a correction to this piece, if warranted, the moment that lefturd blogs and the lefturded lamestream media publish/air/post corrections to their reports about Palin rolling her eyes at this “teacher,” her disabled child being her daughter’s child, that she is against teaching kids about contraception, that she is anti-choice, that she knew Bristol was having sex with that idiot Johnston, that she’s stupid, that she resigned her position as governor of AK for no reason or because she couldn’t take the heat the lamestream media was heaping upon her and her family, and every other lie about her and her family that they started and continue to perpetuate to this day. You owe the lefturds a correction to this story the very moment that this is done.

  287. I live in Homer, Alaska and I have known Kathleen Gustafson for over ten years. It’s really sad to see how quick people are to smear the reputation of someone they only “know” through speculation hasty Google searches.

    Would you like some solid facts about Kathleen?

    1. She is indeed a teacher. Beyond just being certified to teach, she was the lead teacher in a small elementary school called Smokey Bay for a number of years.

    2. With a background in theater, she directs and acts in plays at Pier One Theater during the summer. She also had taught theater camp for a number of years to kids of all ages. She has worked at the high school as a Theater Tech, and has taught many classes in drama and theater.

    3. The ‘Drag Band’ she was in is actually a performance of “Hedwig and the Angry Inch”. She directed the play, and then stepped in to play a role when one of the cast had to leave. This play also featured Jewel’s brother, Atz Lee, as Hedwig and played many times around the state to sold-out crowds.

    4. Being a talented woman, Kathleen also had a job at the local radio station, KBBI as the morning announcer for a few years.

    5. As president of Kachemak Family Planning, Kathleen helps support an organization that provides low-cost mammograms, pap-smears, and women’s health services to our community. Kachemak Bay Family Planning DOES NOT, and HAS NEVER offered abortion services. There are NO abortion providers in HOMER.

    6. Kathleen was NOT representing the radio station (or she would have had sound recording equipment) or Kachemak Bay Family Planning when she went to the Spit. She was representing herself, as an educated and interested citizen.

    Does attacking Kathleen’s character somehow make Sarah Palin’s interaction with her any more palatable? I don’t think so.

    Kathleen spoke for many people, especially women, who were proud of Sarah Palin when she was our Governor. She seemed to be doing a good job for us. When John McCain nominated her for VP we were shocked… and when we saw what she had to turn into to take the state nationally we were horrifed. It was like she had to become an obscene caricature of herself.

    And when she lost the presidency and came back to Alaska, she quickly abandoned us to ride the wave of the publicity and celebrity.

    We as Alaskans, for the majority, feel embarrassed that Sarah Palin has come to represent us on a national stage.

    It is true Alaskan women like Kathleen who are committed to their communities and give back to the people and the place they live by sharing all of their talents, that should rightfully represent us.

  288. Kathleen is one of the most amazing people I have ever met in my life. She is selfless, dedicated to promoting art and theater in the community, and amazingly honest. She has a positive attitude that people in her community have always appreciated. She is a jem.

    I just thought ya’ll should know something about Kathleen from someone who has known her and adored her for decades.

    I don’t know Palin personally. But I was disgusted when I saw her roll her eyes at Kathleen when said she was a teacher. Kathleen is a a dedicated teacher and a hard worker. She deserves more than a eye roll from a snooty politician.

    I used to admire Sarah Palin, not for her politics, but for her balls. Now I think she’s just a jerk.

  289. As Sarah Palin stated in her resignation speech ( and stated in many interviews); she resigned because she recognized the cost that the frivolous ethics complaints were having on her state and she saw how much of her staff’s time and her own time were forced to deal with those issues.

    “I resigned because of frivolous ethics complaints filed through a loophole in Alaska’s laws that enabled opponents of my Administration to pin down over 80% of the time of government workers, force me to spend my own money to defend myself while governor, and cost the state over two million dollars. Since I finished EVERY major objective of my first term early, and knowing these attacks were because of me, I stepped down to allow the Executive branch to function properly and then stepped UP and took the fight NATIONALLY against the most leftist President and administration in US history knowing full-well that it may destroy my political future. There are other things more important than me, including my state and my country and I chose to STAND UP and do something about it.”–Sarah Palin

    Sarah Palin told us all why she resigned when she resigned. If some people still don’t get it, well, that’s their problem

    The media has lied about her banning of books, forcing victims to pay for their own rape kits, and her stance on sex education. They have tried to portray her as a religious nut, even though she was elected and maintained a high approval rating as governor of one of the least religious states in the country. They have portrayed her an unintelligent, even though she has effectively negotiated the one of the largest private sector infrastructure projects in North America’s history when her predecessors had done little to move that project forward in the previous three decades. The media have portrayed as greedy for making money after she stepped aside from the Governor’s office, while completely ignoring the fact the Obamas made more than 5 million dollars in his first year in office and a prominent Republican purchased a house in the San Diego area for the same amount that the media claims that Governor Palin has made since her resignation.

    They have maligned her family by spreading rumors of divorce and claiming her youngest son isn’t really hers. This is all is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg.

  290. Kudos to Sarah!
    Sarah did remain commendably unruffled and good-natured toward someone being overtly hostile to her.

  291. Ms. Gustafson is not a teacher. She is a theater technician at the high school in Homer, Alaska. A theater technician is a go-fer who does stage prep, set-making, etc., and doesn’t have a teacher’s license.

    Ms. Gustafson is also a local radio personality, so in some measure her stunt was a radio bit.

  292. Akleod @319:

    Yeah well, somehow I think I’ll take the word of someone who’s actually known her for years (see #315) over yours.

  293. To HomerMama @315 and Christopher @316:

    Thanks for the insights. Always good to hear what people who know the facts firsthand have to say. Too bad so many of the haters couldn’t be bothered to find out the facts first.

  294. Never seen soooo many posts on a non subject.
    IF your opponent is an idiot and non threat why
    continue to be so afraid? Well, I’ll tell you. You liberals are scared to death of Palin. She resonates with America unlike the NOTUS. I could care less about the “teacher” in question. I have seen fully credentialed teachers that are worthless. Vote the way you want but the tidal wave of anti-incumbent, anti-democrat, anti-rino is one pissed of voting block. Enough is enough we the people want ADULTS with morals
    in office. Currently we have neither.
    powder is dry.

  295. As a liberal, I encourage you to keep posting stuff like this. It helps to perpetuate the stereotype that conservatives are ignorant.

    You seriously don’t know that drama is sometimes called “theater tech” these days? Have you been to school? Did you get to the double digit grades?

  296. . . . and another thing. . .

    What is a “drag band”?

    I know what you think it is, but I’ve never heard of such a thing actually existing. There are drag shows where individual performers come out and lip synch, but I’ve never heard of a band with live musicians in drage. Well, androgeny is certainly a part of rock, and I’ve heard of people in drag, but you seem to think this is some sort of queer subculture thing.

    Again, I’m wondering about your level of education. College towns generally have at least one place where some local promoter puts on drag shows periodically. Did you go to college? It’s okay if you didn’t, but since your post seems to be making claims about your ability to figure out stuff about teaching certification, I’m generally kind of amused at the, shal we say, lack of experience implied by “drag band.”

  297. “So obumer has no argument to make so he/she calls me an asshat.”

    Kieren C, well, you are an “ASSHAT”.
    No argument there.

  298. As it turns out the “teacher” was no teacher at all, but a theater tech. She lied to the country – thus impeaching her own credibility entirely.

  299. Oh waaaaaaaaaaah palin did not hug this teachers jockstrap oh grow the hell up trolls

  300. I love reading the comments from the cheerleaders here. You guys can’t seem to figure out what you want to hate first.

  301. Hey, remember Joe the Plumber?

    Yeah, he wasn’t actually a plumber.

    Nice try though, f**king hypocrites.

  302. Bob
    August 11th, 2010 | 4:22 am | #323

    Some of us have degrees in something more people want skills and services. I am an engineer that installs and maintains O.R. visualization equipment. I let the lesser minds act. Most actors have just a H.S. diploma. Society always needs culture. Art is something the majority of society cannot do. Such as Picasso, not pissing in a mason jar and dunking a crusifix, or the vagina monologues. I am aware of the depraved nature of “art” that is why it must be subsidised by gov’mt. The public would not buy it as it is crap. Powder is dry.

  303. Kevin @317:

    “As Sarah Palin stated in her resignation speech ( and stated in many interviews); she resigned because she recognized the cost that the frivolous ethics complaints were having on her state and she saw how much of her staff’s time and her own time were forced to deal with those issues.”

    ——————————————-

    Which of course turned out to be a false issue.

    But she didn’t even bring that up here, did she? I mean you’d think that would be the first thing out of her mouth, but no, it was pumping her little fists and saying things like she quit to fight for America and help make sure we had candidates who supported the Constitution.

    Which of course she could have done as Governor.

  304. I came to this site thinking I might find some concrete information, but instead, found a bunch of homophobic rants and misinformation! WoW!!!

  305. So you lie, then when caught in your lie you simply just claim that the libs are spinning this. She is a teacher man, have you no decency or honor sir?

  306. It’s been a while since I’d been to First Things, which used to contain erudite commentary. And now I find this drivel from a so-called pundit who is so intellectually weak that he doubles down instead of admitting error. Mr. Holt you should be ashamed of yourself. Gustafson is a teacher. And even if she weren’t you simply cannot explain away Palin’s reaction when told that she was. Palin’s reaction is the epitome of anti-intellectualism. The half-term former governor of Alaska is a complete and utter joke. And so, apparently, is Mr. Holt.

  307. What kind of idiot are you? Theater tech is taught in lots of schools, and not just in Alaska.

    And have all you teacher-haters on here ever even tried to teach? Do have the slightest idea about what it’s really like to try to be a good teacher in this country? If you did, you wouldn’t post this dribble.

  308. 315 and 316 have presented the real facts here. Mr. Holt, would you care to respond? If not, sir, you have no integrity whatsoever.

  309. Why do Republicans hate teachers? Why do they hate and want to change our Constitution?

    What the hell is going on here?

  310. Theater tech is an abreviation “Technical Theater” and it is a class in any high school that has a theatre department in america. I suppose its no big surprise that you don’t believe theatre is a real thing that people actually teach (too “faggy” for you no doubt) but she is paid to teach it. That makes her a teacher and you a liar.

  311. First we smash the homosexual agenda that threatens the freedom of our country.

    Then we smash the stink-balled libs for their incompetent march towards socialism and communism.

    Then we take our mighty military and ass-rape each Muslim with a bayonet attached to the end of a cruise missile.

    USA rules.

    Liberals are the retarded step-children of the hippies and communists!!!!!

  312. Does it really matter whether she is a teacher or not (but obviously she is)?

    At the end of the day, Sarah Palin rolled her eyes and made a pained look when she heard the word “teacher” — and what’s worse, she did it to Bristol.

    What kind of mother would teach her own daughter to scorn teachers?

  313. Well, anything Education is obviously one of Palins achilles heels (How many feet does she have? 100?) How many Colleges did she attend? Six?
    So all of her relatives are teachers?
    How many newspapers does she read? Zero
    That’s a shame.
    And Yes it’s flattering to call her a “Celebrity” but not when she accuses Obama to be one, remember?
    As usual, no consistency, just contradictions.

  314. So, you are criticizing this woman because she is a teacher who doesn’t teach one of the classic readin’, ritin’, or ‘rithmetic class?

    Yet you call Queen Sarah a political leader because she was a terrible governor who quit halfway through her term?

    Who’s deluding whom?

  315. Have you no integrity, sir? You have been proven wrong. Man up.

  316. So, let’s see if I’ve got this right. A private citizen puts up a sign critical of Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin comes over and engages her and while frank things are said, there are no threats, no gestures, no violence. Kathleen Gustafson, as is her right, has critical things to say about Palin and her tenure as governor. What I don’t get is how this makes Kathleen Gustafson “unhinged” or a “loon.” Is the standard for comportment and sanity that expressed by the other side of the political spectrum? Is it that the only people who can express their views – without being called America-haters – are folks who agree with Sarah Palin and her politics?

  317. “What kind of mother would teach her own daughter to scorn teachers?”

    =================

    What kind of a “teacher” shows such obvious scorn for someone’s religion in front of their own child?

  318. “The Palin-haters now claim that “theater tech” is the name of some class they teach in Alaska.
    Sure it is… Keep spinning libs.”

    I know that this requires a high level of research skills, but you might have thought to plug “theater tech” (keep the quotes) into Google. You would have found that it’s some class they teach a lot of places.

  319. I’ve got our local (Seattle area) HS’s course catalog open in front of me.

    Under ‘Fine Arts’ I find:
    DRAM300 – Theater Tech

    Its okay to admit when you’ve made a mistake instead of continuing to dig.

  320. So I don’t get it. Is or is she not a teacher? It looks like she’s a teacher, so the comments knocking her, from the blogger and others, seem out of place.

    And whatever the reason Palin rolled her eyes, its goes to the level of maturity – or lack thereof – that she exhibited during the confrontation.

  321. “What kind of a “teacher” shows such obvious scorn for someone’s religion in front of their own child?”

    You guys are doing it on the public stage with the big bad groundzero mosque! Oh wait, if it’s not Christianity, it doesn’t count.

  322. Nice – so she really is a teacher as about 5 seconds of research on the Internet could show you, but this blogger is unconcerned with the truth.

    Not too surprising, there are lots of little Glen Beck wannabes out there who think that people will believe you if you scream loud enough.

  323. Seriously? You post a lie (that she is not a teacher) as fact (next time do your homework first) and then when your lie is uncovered you say oh, yeah, but that’s not important and lay out another lie (that she was a drag queen in a play) as fact (again, do your homework you lazy smuck) and then when that lie is uncovered you say oh, yah, but that’s not important and lay out another lie (that theater tech is not a class at that school (notice – your lies are getting progressively more and more meaningless in regards to the story) and then when that lie is uncovered what lie next? Seriously, you’re a bigger liar than a 6 year old kid with less purpose to lie. Get a frickin life.

  324. Chisum @353:

    “What kind of a ‘teacher’ shows such obvious scorn for someone’s religion in front of their own child?”

    ———————————–

    Where exactly did she do that? Be specific, please.

  325. Besides, who cares if she’s a teacher or not? Sarah Palin is still a moron!

  326. JR \”Bob\” DobbsNo
    August 11th, 2010 | 3:01 pm | #358

    “What kind of a “teacher” shows such obvious scorn for someone’s religion in front of their own child?”

    You guys are doing it on the public stage with the big bad groundzero mosque! Oh wait, if it’s not Christianity, it doesn’t count.

    ==================

    Wow, that is some response! Relevant, too.

    I suppose it might be relevant if all the people protesting the GZ mosue (61% of New Yorkers) were all self proclaimed “teachers”; were all objecting because religious reasons, and were doing it in front of their children.

    Then you might have some relevance, moron.

  327. Zuzu
    August 11th, 2010 | 3:15 pm | #361

    Chisum @353:

    “What kind of a ‘teacher’ shows such obvious scorn for someone’s religion in front of their own child?”

    ———————————–

    Where exactly did she do that? Be specific, please.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Who do you think you are kidding, troll?

    You have been perched on this thread 24/7 for the last two days!

    I have mentioned it twice. Hell, I have even posted a link to a transcript of their conversation.

    I know you have read my comments. Go back and review.

    Or are you just too stupid to comprehend plain English?

    Go be stupid somewhere else, troll.

  328. The libturds are shaming GP’s writer, readers and commenters for doing what libturds do.

    It can’t be said too many times: The hypocrisy of libturds knows no bounds.

  329. Wanumba @312 – Sorry, Jan Brewer is a complete disaster of a governor.

  330. Technical Theater was a required course at the U of MN when I was a theater major. And yes, we had a teacher.

  331. The lack of critical thinking skills continues to amaze me. No matter how you slice it or dice it, Sarah Palin cashed out to become a backseat president. And regardless of those “frivolous” charges, she WAS found to have abused her office. That is a certifiable fact. I always thought Hillary Clinton was bad, but Palin makes her look good. With all the charges against her, Clinton never folded and she never quit her office for money. This party will not be repaired until we start acting like adults – not cheerleaders. You can call me an “unhinged lefty”, but the reality is, I am a principled conservative. Mr. Hoft, I respectfully ask that you review the 10 commandments. Specifically the one that says, “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor”.

  332. Hey Lib’s, I for one adopt the enemys rules (yours).
    All is far in love and WAR. I love my country and will defeat any and all that try to drag her down. This is what has gotten your panties in a wad. We conservative are not backing down on the tripe your serving. I take you guys on everywhere. Your rank and file Lib’s are totally unable to defend positions nor ideas. I endulge ALL of my constitutional liberties while you “expect” someone else to protect you. LOL
    Your so outta your league. “the times they are a changin” powder is dry.

  333. “Powder is dry”? What does that even mean? I love my country. I served in the United States Marine Corps for 4 years and left with an honorable discharge. I cast my first vote for Ronald Reagan and up until the end of Bush 43′s first term, voted republican across the board. Some of us “unhinged leftists” are conservatives who hold true to their principles. I can’t say that for many here. But “powder dry”? Please explain how this is relevant to this discussion and how it makes you more conservative than others. I’m genuinely interested.

  334. do you have proof she abused her power?

    oh wait she abused her power cause you said so tool btw i highly doubt if reagan were alive you’d lke him since he fired people for striking you orphaned moby

  335. Have you finally gotten your facts straight? Mrs. Gustafson IS a teacher who works in Homer schools. She has been involved in Drama for years. She put up the money to produce a play called “Hedwig and the Angry Inch” which has been a part of the American drama scene since the 90′s. Mrs. Gustafson used some of the money Mrs. Palin distributed to ALL Alaskan citizens (a social program which has been in place for years–”share the wealth”), and, oh yeah, Mrs. does have the right to display her personal political views on private property just as you have the right to espouse your political views on your blog.

  336. if it has been in place before palin was in office than why do you people insist on calling her a socialist more evil than chavez for taking advantage of it? and btw why does Ms.Gustafson hate her guts?

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