Figures. Support For Ground Zero Mosque Plummets After Obama Weighs In
Posted by Jim Hoft on Monday, August 23, 2010, 10:31 AM
77% of mainstream Americans oppose the Ground Zero Victory Mosque.
But, Barack Obama thinks it’s a nifty idea. (LA Times)
More Americans than ever are opposed to the Ground Zero Victory Mosque now that President Obama weighed in on the controversy. 77% of mainstream voters are opposed to the mosque while 68% of the political class are in favor of building the victory mosque.
Rasmussen reported:
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 85% of U.S. voters say they are now following news stories about the mosque planned near Ground Zero. That’s a 34-point jump from a month ago when only 51% said they were following the story.
The new finding includes 58% who are following the story very closely, up from 22% in mid-July.
Now 62% oppose the building of a mosque near where the World Trade Center stood in Lower Manhattan, compared to 54% in the previous survey. Twenty-five percent (25%) favor allowing the mosque to go ahead, and 13% more are not sure.
Sixty-eight percent (68%) of the Political Class, however, favor building the mosque near Ground Zero. Seventy-seven percent (77%) of Mainstream voters are opposed.
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Granny commented:
Pardon my French, but what the HELL is a “political class” or a “mainstream voter”?
down with dems commented:
Solution: fire them all
Out with every incumbent, or at least 68% of them.
The views of your supposed “representatives” could not be much more opposite of the people they are supposed to be representing. When political “representatives” believe and act in opposition to the will of their constituents, do those constituents really have representation at all? That kind of thing led to a Revolution once before.
Claudia commented:
Granny, mainstream = us, political class = them
down with dems commented:
Grayy #1
per Rasmussen:
The questions used to calculate the Index are:
– Generally speaking, when it comes to important national issues, whose judgment do you trust more – the American people or America’s political leaders?
– Some people believe that the federal government has become a special interest group that looks out primarily for its own interests. Has the federal government become a special interest group?
– Do government and big business often work together in ways that hurt consumers and investors?
To create a scale, each response earns a plus 1 for the populist answer, a minus 1 for the political class answer, and a 0 for not sure.
Those who score 2 or higher are considered a populist or part of the Mainstream. Those who score -2 or lower are considered to be aligned with the Political Class. Those who score +1 or -1 are considered leaners in one direction or the other.
In practical terms, if someone is classified with the Mainstream, they agree with the mainstream view on at least two of the three questions and don’t agree with the Political Class on any.
Kevin P commented:
I LOVE it! The American people know instinctively if the ZERO is for something, it can’t be good for America!
After he gets out of office Pepsi should hire him to promote Coke (a-Cola).
down with dems commented:
oops, Grayy = Granny
Chisum commented:
Obama and Optical Illusions
This Social Security gambit, which will fail politically (as has so much of what Obama and his aides have tried), is simply more evidence that the core premise of the Obama campaign — that he would transcend the usual divisions in American politics, that he would elevate our discourse and reach across the aisle in an unprecedented way, and that he would act reasonably and responsibly in facing America’s challenges — was a mirage. It was an effective optical illusion, but it was, in fact, an optical illusion. And every week, it seems, it is being revealed as such.
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/wehner/346096
Kevin P commented:
I wonder if the heroes of 9/11 – those on Flight 93 – hadn’t crashed that plane, and instead let the high-jackers hit their intended target – The Capitol – would the Political Class support a similar mosque being built on Pennsylvania Avenue?
Granny commented:
Kevin P, if Flight 93 had taken out the US Capitol, would there be a “political class” to support anything?
/when did Rasmussen start quantifying polls this way rather than D, R and I?
Granny commented:
Mosque imam – “US Worse than Al Queda” – audio here
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/08/explosive-in-faisals-own-words.html
Andreas K. commented:
Granny
August 23rd, 2010 | 10:38 am | #1
Pardon my French, but what the HELL is a “political class” or a “mainstream voter”?
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Classless society, eh. All animals are equal. Just some animals are more equal than others.
Though, I can’t blame Rasmussen. I mean, look at the RINOs. There are too many “conservatives” on the Hill, who want to “reach across the aisle” and are infected with the whole bi-partisan humbug.
That’s why I say “conservatives” and not Conservatives.
Political class on one side, and the rest of the peasants on the other.
Sounds familiar?
Sure does. Remember the USSR? Bingo.
bg commented:
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the main revelation is:
re: [Sixty-eight percent (68%) of the Political Class, however, favor building the mosque near Ground Zero. Seventy-seven percent (77%) of Mainstream voters are opposed.]
once again proving politicians
are not with “we the people”..
toss out all the anti-Muslim & non-Muslim anti-Islamist victory
mosque, pro-Islamist victory mosque politicians the (fitb) out!!
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The Elector of Saxony commented:
“would the Political Class support a similar mosque being built on Pennsylvania Avenue?”
The Leftists would. Remember that America is an Evil, Racist, Imperialist country. Therefore, we deserved to be attacked by the brave Freedom Fighting Brown-Skinned Minorites (who can do no wrong) Islam is the new Black.
Granny commented:
Elector, go have a gander at some of the pics of the SS Handshar Division – 100% muslim. Virtually all of them blonde/blue/”aryan.”
Pictures
ISLAM is not a race!
bg commented:
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Granny @ 10:38 am #1
grasshoppers & ants aka: elites & peons aka: kings & dhimmis, i could
go on, but i’m sure you get the idea: NWO PC wordship conditioning..
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Chisum commented:
KUHNER: President’s socialist takeover must be stopped
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jul/22/the-case-for-impeachment-142967590/?page=1
bg commented:
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Granny @ 11:16 am #17
just a sample:
Handschar Division in Action
Croatian Waffen SS – 13 Waffen Gebirgs Division der SS Handschar
Albania and Axis Powers WWII
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bg commented:
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Chisum @ 11:22 am #19
[He is slowly - piece by painful piece - erecting a socialist dictatorship. We are not there - yet. But he is putting America on that dangerous path. He is undermining our constitutional system of checks and balances; subverting democratic procedures and the rule of law; presiding over a corrupt, gangster regime; and assaulting the very pillars of traditional capitalism. Like Venezuela's leftist strongman, Hugo Chavez, Mr. Obama is bent on imposing a revolution from above - one that is polarizing America along racial, political and ideological lines. Mr. Obama is the most divisive president since Richard Nixon. His policies are Balkanizing the country.
It's time for him to go.
He has abused his office and violated his oath to uphold the Constitution. His health care overhaul was rammed through Congress. It was - and remains - opposed by a majority of the people. It could only be passed through bribery and political intimidation. The Louisiana Purchase, the Cornhusker Kickback, the $5 billion Medicaid set-aside for Florida Sen. Bill Nelson - taxpayer money was used as a virtual slush fund to buy swing votes. Moreover, the law is blatantly unconstitutional: The federal government does not have the right to coerce every citizen to purchase a good or service. This is not in the Constitution, and it represents an unprecedented expansion of power.]
same can be said of how the DNC conducted the
campaign & selection of Barack Hussein Obama..
of course they could put a stop to him in a
heartbeat if they had an iota of fortitude..
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Granny commented:
bg, here are some more. Post #39 if it gets lost
Stuart commented:
One of my favorite movie scenes:
Mars Attacks: The Martians have just wiped out congress with a death ray, all live on TV.
In the old folks home Grandma is watching the carnage and laughing hysterically-”They just Blew up Congress, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.”
Granny commented:
BG, wish I understood the words to the song on that first video you posted.
This I do understand – and this is an entirely separate muslim SS division – Albanian.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAxrg7nMcs4&feature=fvw
Chisum commented:
Our “Polly Pocket” President.
The No-Go Mojo Man
Obama, as he has repeatedly informed us, was born and raised at least for part of his life a Muslim. He knows and thinks beautiful the call of the muezzin, he has said. That makes his ignorance of Islamism less pathetic than it is purposeful — purposeful and cojone-less. As our president, Obama must protect us from totalitarian ideologies. This is by far the most significant responsibility in his job description. He refused that responsibility this week.
We need a leader, not a womyn’s studies professor. Srike that — womyn’s studies professors are, by and large, twice as masculine as our current president. I would suggest that President Obama “cowboy up,” even though we already know what he thinks of cowboys. Unfortunately, his EZ-Bake Oven, Polly Pocket politics play right into the hands of our enemies.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/08/the_nogo_mojo_man.html
Chisum commented:
Lenin’s ‘useful idiots’ in the mosque debate
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/08/lenins_useful_idiots_in_the_mo.html
Chippy commented:
Our political class did not read the 911 Report. They were at war with us before the 911 attacks. This kooky imam, Obama and the liar czar class are spinning it the other way around.
The American people aren’t buying their crap anymore.
bg commented:
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Kevin P @ 11:02 am #11
re: [“would the Political Class support a similar
mosque being built on Pennsylvania Avenue?”]
don’t know about the political class, but ordinary Americans might very
well support it as long as it was not connected to known anti-America/ Constitution/ Islamists, who’s stated intent is world domination under Sharia Law..
btw.. once Iran has those nukes pointed at US & their other chosen sights around the globe, just remember they have stated they care not how many Muslims are killed, not to mention proven it throughout history.. hence, anyone who thinks for one iota of a second they wouldn’t wipe whoever they wanted off the map, are not only delusional, but suicidal..
Granny #23 & #25
, but thank you..
ever get the feeling that when the Islamists claimed it was their time”, not
to mention how the election of President Obama was a step forward in the project of Islamization and the long term goal of Islamist domination which falls right in lock-step with that of the Muslim Brotherhood as revealed in their manifesto, that it was somehow our turn to face the evil mass murdering machine, half of which is always Islamists, the other half Utpopianists by any other name.. *sigh*
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newton commented:
“Sixty-eight percent (68%) of the Political Class, however, favor building the mosque near Ground Zero. Seventy-seven percent (77%) of Mainstream voters are opposed. ”
This is what we should take a hold of.
The general voting public opposed vs. the Ruling Class all in favor of it. Haven’t we seen this before?
Oh, that’s right! Pat Caddell’s warnings to the Political Class and the Democrats! When he found in a poll that only 24 percent of those polled say that the government is following “the consent of the governed.” He called it “Pre-Revolutionary.”
This should be a BIG warning to the Ruling Class. The bottom line is this: the Ruling Class’ support for the Ground Zero mosque is a vivid demonstration of its total tone-deafness and total disconnect from the rest of the American People.
No, calling the American People “bigots” and “Islamophobes” is not going to shut anyone off anymore. The People have had enough of the Ruling Class’ insults to the people’s intelligence and common sense.
When The People get their chance… the Ruling Class better have their reservations for permanent exile ready, because they’re going to be run out of town! Heads will roll in November. They’re not going to know what hit them until it’s too late.
Patman commented:
Obama has the Midas touch.
newton commented:
“Obama has the Midas touch.”
You mean, the “Reverse Midas” touch… You know, everything he touches turns to…
Andreas K. commented:
It’s interesting that the “political class” favors conquest by islam. With that they also favor:
Honor killings
Oppressing women
Forced marriages
Slavery
Female genital mutilation
A two class society (too bad for them that they wouldn’t be the rulers in a sharia society)
Murdering apostates
Stoning to death for adultry (I wonder how many libs would face that penalty under sharia, must be thousands of them)
After all, those are integral parts of islam as well.
bg commented:
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Chisum @ 11:50 am #26
hah, bet Obama is crying taqqiyah tears over that spread.. /s/
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Patti commented:
Kaine is dead wrong as far as I am concerned.I would be opposed to any religion attempting to trump any other at this location.
I am a Christian adherent and, of course, I favour Christianity, but I have the sense to realise that not all those who lost their lives that day share my beliefs.
The Burlington Coat Factory is part and parcel of Ground Zero. As such it should have always been considered hallowed ground and an integral part of the memorial.
We are dealing with some folks with no sense of decency whatsoever, folks who want to win no matter the cost to anyone else. This degree of ruthlessness shows the measure of such men and their lack of benevolence
The Elector of Saxony commented:
Granny,
I didn’t mean to imply that Islam was a race. I only meant that Islam is the newest “darling-of-the-Left -incapable of wrongdoing-highly aggrieved group”
In the midst of the awful Soviet-funded terror campaigns in Africa in the 1970′s, the late great Rt. Hon. Ian Smith, made a comment in the aftermath of the latest butchery at some convent or other (yes, there were several convent butcheries), or after the terrorists used Soviet SAMS to bring down 2 planes carrying civilians (about which the Western media-Marxists were utterly silent as usual) that “if you have black skin you will be forgiven any barbarity”.
Islam is the new black because in the eye of the cultural and political Left, not even a reasonable criticism of Islam can be brooked. No truth will fail to be hidden, obscured, buried, or opposed by them. What violence they visit upon us is deserved and provoked…by us.
In the context of my post, the Left is using Islam as a whip with which to beat America and the West for our “greed, racism, imperialism, consumerism, capitalism, Zionism, sexism, homophobia, and our rejection of Marxist-Greenist-Internationalist values. They’ll use anyone or anything in that fashion.
Militant Conservative commented:
Such an butt whooping coming in 71 days. Dem’s are going to be fired en mass.
If a revolution is coming youd better be ready for a revolution. powder is dry.
bg commented:
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re: bg #29
re: Kevin P @ 11:02 am #11
re: [Flight 93]
here’s the IRONY of the reality, or
should i say reality of the O-MEN..
Flight 93 Memorial
[Other mosque features
Mosque design is based on a dozen typical mosque features, every one of which is realized in the Crescent/Circle design, all on the same epic scale as the half mile wide crescent-mihrab. Note, for instance, that the 93 foot tall minaret-like Tower of Voices is topped with another Islamic-shaped crescent, akin to the crescent-topped minarets seen in many Islamic countries:
(Tower of Voices pictured here)
An Islamic shaped crescent, soaring in the sky above the symbolic lives of the 40 heroes, which literally dangle down below. In Islam, there is only heaven and hell. Symbolic damnation?
The Flight 93 mosque needs to be stopped, along with the Islamic victory mosque at ground zero in Manhattan. May the fight against these two desecrations strengthen each other.
Sincerely,
Tom Burnett Senior
Loving father of Flight 93 hero Tom Burnett Junior]
to top the outrageous “in your face” insults off,
THE OPENING DATE SET FOR BOTH THE MOSQUE & FLIGHT
93 MEMORIAL ARE SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 11, 2011..
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bg commented:
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The Elector of Saxony @ 12:35 pm #36
nothing new about the relationship whatsoever..
just a sample:
Marxism and Islam
[Diverse forms of Marxism agree that social ills result from oppression of the poor by the wealthy (class conflict) but differ on strategies to overcome poverty and establish social harmony. Marxism is also associated with atheism, based on Karl Marx 's view that religion is used by rulers to legitimate the status quo, causing many Muslims to reject Marxism. But due to the affinity between Marxist and Islamic ideals of social justice, some Muslims adopted various forms of Marxism from the 1940s, reaching peak popularity in the 1960s and 1970s. Their analyses often ignored materialism and atheism, rejecting the idealist view that religion is independent of historical conditions and holding instead that many of its manifestations are related to the societies in which it operates. Islam in this view ideally meets the needs of society and can both accommodate and guide social change.]
IRAN : LEFTISTS AND ISLAMISTS UNITED AGAINST HUMANITY
IslaMarxism
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bg commented:
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re: bg #29
Hope, Change, Peace..
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Granny commented:
Elector, I know you didn’t mean to imply that islam is a race. That is, however, the most common comparison that the left and the media propagandists make – on virtually a daily basis. Any objection to anything muslim, any criticism, any non-compliance with their demands is “racism.”
Doesn’t fly. Here where I live we have a fairly large, I was suprised to learn recently, population of Bosnian muslims. Virtually all of them are blue eyed and lighter skinned than I.
bg commented:
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re: bg #41
AL GORE, THE UNITED NATIONS,
AND THE CULT OF GAIA (1999)
UN
["My hope is that this charter will be
a kind of Ten Commandments" -MG
"The real goal of the Earth Charter is that it will
in fact become like the Ten Commandments" -MS]
Islam
[Today, the responsibility, which used to be laid at
the door of God, is fastened on the shoulders of man.]
“I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth.”
‘We are God’s partners in matters of life and death’
to be continued..
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bg commented:
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re: bg #43 continued..
‘my individual salvation is not gonna come about
without a collective salvation for the country’ .…
Obama Depopulation Policy
Leftists Want to Grant Legal ‘Rights’ to Mother Earth
evidently Obama believes the New World
Order rests upon his messianic shoulders..
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The Elector of Saxony commented:
“any objection to anything muslim, any criticism, any non-compliance with their demands is “racism.”
You’re right. It’s the same old playbook. I’m hopeful that a great many people are starting to stand against these tactics.
Granny commented:
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re: bg #43 continued..
‘my individual salvation is not gonna come about
without a collective salvation for the country’ .…
The Bible is exceedingly clear: individual salvation in the Christian context depends solely and entirely on belief in Jesus Christ as your personal saviour. There is no such thing as “collective salvation” – and certainly no one’s individual salvation would depend on it if there was.
This does remind me of two things however. First, the Jesus tells us that if someone came after him claiming to be from him but preaching a message different than he had preached believers were to ignore that person, as it would be The Wrong Jesus.
Second, an incident that occurred some years back – 15, maybe more – with a very well known TV preacher. Apparently he wanted to build a new TV studio or some such for his ministry, so he got up and announced to the world that “The Lord” had told him that he needed to raise a million dollars (might have been more) in a certain period of time “or else the lord was going to call him home!”
When Jesus sent his followers out to spread his message, he told them to take neither bag nor staff and to ask no one for money, but to trust in God for their needs. And if you are a true believer, there should be no greater reward than to be finally “called home” – that is not a punishment for failing to raise enough of something you aren’t supposed to ask for.
Whoever this preacher worships, it is, like Obama, the Wrong Jesus!
INC commented:
Granny,
Rasmussen’s term political class is misleading as it does sound like politicians/officials. He does define it, but IMO he should have used a different label.
Rasmussen determines who is a member of the political class by the following:
See:
08/21/10 WSJ Interview with Scott Rasmussen
03/20/09 55% of Americans Are Populist, 7% Support the Political Class
kato commented:
Here’s the Jivemaster in Ohio last week:
“And so me [sic] and Sherrod and Mary Jo and Steve and Ted and a whole bunch of
folks, we’re all putting our boots on, and we go down into the ditch. And it’s
muddy down there, and it’s hot, and there are bugs swirling around. And we’re
pushing on the car, trying to get it out of the ditch, putting our
shoulder–shoving it, pushing it. And the Republicans are up there looking at
us, sipping on their Slurpees.”
I never heard of putting on boots to play golf. As for Slurpees, I usually see them in the hands of obese blacks standing at bus stops, probably heading downtown to pick up some of that Obama Money.
Baba Ganoush commented:
In a previous time we had a way of dealing with Treason, even of the Political Class. All of the surviving WWII generation I know are thoroughly disgusted with both parties. Some ask why they bothered.
Ian commented:
Wow, lot’s of anti Islamic sentiment even though it was Al Qaeda that flew planes into the building killing thousands of people…including Muslims. Oh well, I’m sure the American people will welcome a mosque outside their imaginary “hollowed ground” zone. Say like in Tennessee, perhaps.