Yesterday, video was released of Georgia Director of Rural Development Shirley Sherrod admitting in a speech at an NAACP banquet in March that she discriminated against farmers because of their race. Sherrod was appointed last year by Obama’s Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack. After the video was released, where Sherrod told NAACP members that she refused to fully assist a white farmer because of his race, the Obama Administration forced her to resign.

Today, Sherrod told reporters that “she” was the real victim… Not the white farmer she neglected to assist.
Breitbart TV reported:

Sherrod claims she was harassed by the Obama Administration and forced to resign.

Later today Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack stood by his decision to fire Shirley Sherrod for her racists comments caught on tape.
FOX News reported:

Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack on Tuesday stood by his decision to demand the resignation of a Georgia official over a controversial YouTube clip, though the ex-official claimed afterward that the Obama administration never gave her a chance to tell her side of the story.

Shirley Sherrod, the department’s ex-Georgia director of Rural Development, said the White House forced her out after the video surfaced showing her telling a story about how she withheld help to a white farmer in trouble. But she claimed the video omitted key context and that the administration just got scared.

“They were not interested in hearing the truth. No one wanted to hear the truth,” she said in a television
interview Tuesday morning.

Still, after intense media coverage of the fallout from the resignation, Vilsack released a written statement Tuesday afternoon defending and explaining his decision. He said the controversy itself was enough to make her job difficult.

“Yesterday, I asked for and accepted Ms. Sherrod’s resignation for two reasons. First, for the past 18 months, we have been working to turn the page on the sordid civil rights record at USDA and this controversy could make it more difficult to move forward on correcting injustices. Second, state rural development directors make many decisions and are often called to use their discretion,” he said. “The controversy surrounding her comments would create situations where her decisions, rightly or wrongly, would be called into question making it difficult for her to bring jobs to Georgia.”

UPDATE: The Obama White told reporters today that they did not pressure racist Shirley Sherrod to resign(?)

 

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  1. oh, puh-leeze,
    1. She should have been fired, not allowed to resign…does this mean she is eligible for benefits?
    2. It is laughable that the WH is afraid…they fear nothing regarding race issues…

  2. Glenn Beck had an interesting take on this today. Catch or record the rerun tonight if you have a chance.

  3. someone acted stupidly

  4. I love the ones that squeal under the tires of the bus.

    They were trying to orchestrate something that didn’t quite work out and it had something to do with Glenn Beck. The truth tellers are living inside the Marxists heads rent free! lol

  5. Second, state rural development directors make many decisions and are often called to use their discretion,” he said.
    ………………..

    That’s the truth all right. Farmers are at the mercy of local staff, who frequently are locals and who are quite capable of denying applications based on anything from race to long-held family rivalry feuds.
    An argument for not more government rules, but to get government OUT of this in the first place. Just creates market distortions and opportunity for mini-sector local officialdom tyranny.

  6. Well looky here. It appears the big O wants it to go away:
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/Examiner-Opinion-Zone/Shirley-Sherrods-Disappearing-Act-Not-So-Fast-98846149.html
    Ms. Sherrod’s previous background, the circumstances surrounding her hiring, and the USDA’s agenda may all play a part in explaining her sudden departure from the agency. These matters have not received much scrutiny to this point.

    An announcement of Ms. Sherrod’s July 2009 appointment to her USDA position at ruraldevelopment.org gives off quite a few clues:

    RDLN Graduate and Board Vice Chair Shirley Sherrod was appointed Georgia Director for Rural Development by Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack on July 25. Only days earlier, she learned that New Communities, a group she founded with her husband and other families (see below) has won a thirteen million dollar settlement in the minority farmers law suit Pigford vs Vilsack.

    What?

    Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/Examiner-Opinion-Zone/Shirley-Sherrods-Disappearing-Act-Not-So-Fast-98846149.html#ixzz0uGQNrkU8

  7. The wheels of the bus go round and round all thru the administration!

  8. Didn’t Obie just give a couple $100M to black farmers who alleged that they were not treated fairly by the UDSA?

  9. Here are a few bigger-picture questions:

    * Did Shirley Sherrod resign so quickly because the circumstances of her hiring and the lawsuit settlement with her organization that preceded it might expose some unpleasant truths about her possible and possibly sanctioned conflicts of interest?
    * Is USDA worried about the exposure of possible waste, fraud, and abuse in its handling of Pigford?
    * Did USDA also dispatch Sherrod hastily because her continued presence, even for another day, might have gotten in the way of settling Pigford matters quickly?

    Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/Examiner-Opinion-Zone/Shirley-Sherrods-Disappearing-Act-Not-So-Fast-98846149.html#ixzz0uGRSxzAP

  10. Quote: * Did USDA also dispatch Sherrod hastily because her continued presence, even for another day, might have gotten in the way of settling Pigford matters quickly?

    More likely the USDA dispatched Sherrod so quickly hoping that the entire Pigford affair could be swept under the rug before the American public found out about several BILLION with a B dollars being paid out to defendants who have magically multiplied from the original 3,000 to many times that. One of whom is Sherrod herself.

  11. More likely the USDA dispatched Sherrod so quickly hoping that the entire Pigford affair could be swept under the rug before the American public found out about several BILLION with a B dollars being paid out to defendants who have magically multiplied from the original 3,000 to many times that. One of whom is Sherrod herself.

  12. http://www.thelivewyer.com/2010/07/fun-with-words.html

    They were ‘snookered’ into jumping to conclusions. lol

  13. They needed something to counter the New Black Panthers stories and wanted Glenn Beck to look like the bad guy here, just like he said…just like I said. They even used the word ‘snookered’! roflmao That’s a total projection. They were trying to snooker us into believing that they aren’t racist elitists. Classic…

  14. I love the narrative.

    Our incompetent President and the NAACP (formerly the nation’s oldest civil rights organization but now a wholly owned, wholly controlled and willing subsidiary of the Democrat Party) smears Ms. Sherrod when she should have been defended.

    incompetence, thy name is Democrat. How our enemies must be laughing. You couldn’t get a Democrat to say anything negative about Iran or North Korea on short notice, but they throw a black woman under the bus. Beautiful.

  15. Interesting. . .she’s a noisy activist in May 2009, who believes that $1.25 billion isn’t enough in reparations:

    http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?S=10349434

    Then, she wins $13 million in court awards a month later. AND gets a director post in USDA one week after the award.

    Something up here?

  16. Shirley Sherrod sinned and she atoned for her sins. Meanwhile the NAA[L]CP and the Obama administration whalllow in sin.

  17. still say the ‘white’ farmer should sue on ‘hate crimes issue///
    C-CS

  18. Her little speech at the NAACP has messed up the Obama administration in several different ways. First, her speech showed how this administration is discrimminating against whites. Second, It is bringing to light the under the table reparations they gave these blacks. Wasn’t there some question some time ago about how many blacks were suing? Weren’t there more people suing than the ones that farmed? What, they gave them money anyway without checking if they were legitimate plaintiffs? Sounds like the gimme people. jumpping on the bandwagaon to get some and they sure did, especially this woman and her husband. Government and the dim party are so deep in doo doo they can’t see their way out. The rot is coming to light. All the back room deals. All the graft and corruption. No wonder the blacks vote for these slime balls if they get this kind of money from them. It is a whole lot worse than we thought and we thought it was bad. Third, the digging up of this kind of stuff puts the adminstration’s war against the tea party in a different light. More and more, government is seen as discrimminating against whites and more and more, the public is seeing the blacks get money and other freebies that whites are not even told about. The government has to offer these things to all but whites can’t ask for them if they don’t know about them, can they? This has been going on for decades and the people in the south have known about it but the people in the north have claimed we are prejudiced and hate the blacks and are lying, but we were and are not. This is what these people do. They have been conditioned to it from childhood and the dims are using this attitude for their own ends. I am not saying all blacks are like this but a good many of them are.

  19. She should have never been hired in the first place. She is the typical affirmative action employee. The affirmative action program has only created a huge workforce of uneducated unqualified people in positions they should never be in.

  20. The posts on this website over the past several weeks are a testament to that dirty little secret that the mainstream media goes to extraordinary lengths to cover up: the staggering amount of black racism in this country.

    The difference between white and black racism is that blacks don’t necessarily feel superior to whites, but they feel entitled to take every advantage of their victim status to milk the system at every opportunity. It’s a reparations gravy train that stretches across hundreds of government programs and almost every piece of legislation to come out of the current government.

    These are the same people who demand respect, forgetting that respect is something that needs to be earned. When one hears this parade of malcontents, one can’t help but realize that these jerks are where they are because of the color of their skin, not the content of their character. MLK’s dream died years ago. We’re left with an army of parasites and grifters.

  21. “Never let a good crisis go to waste”

    That’s why Obama fired her. By God, he’s not going to tolerate racism during his administration. Might as well score some easy point when they present themselves.

  22. Shirley Sherrod’s claims that a 24 year old story is redeemed by the victims themselves doesn’t wash with the taunting attitude she displayed telling NAACP members 4 months ago that she dismissed a “white” person to “their own kind”.

    Second… Shirley Sherrod is party to a suspect government billion dollar legal “settlement” payout to 80,000 African-American “farmers” of whom only 26,000 were even participants in farming. How is that not a conflict of interest and a bigger story?

  23. Hmmm? What does she have in her background?

  24. Jim:

    Are you aware that the wife of the farmer mentioned in the video is defending Sherrod, that there is more to the story, that she worked for two years with the farmer and the farm was saved? If I stumble upon Huffpo or the NYT expect a rush to judgment and incomplete reporting. I thought you had higher standards.

  25. Shirley is upset she got caught. She thought she was among compadres. That is why she spoke so freely about discriminating against the white farmer. I bet she really wants to find out who the traitor (patriot) is who made and disseminated this video.

    Didn’t someone say that truth will out? Shirley, no explanations necessary, hon. Your words speak for themselves. Buh-byeee!

  26. Good post Kato. Nailed it.

  27. Interesting to note that both Glen Beck and Charles Krauthammer think she was treated unfairly. CK says she should get her job back.

    But is weird that virtually every pundit I have seen comment on this completely misses the point: Sherrod was not the point or purpose of Breitbart’s tape. The NAACP was, and their sickening hypocrisy in attacking the Tea Party over “racism”, while tolerating same in their own ranks. The NAACP was the issue, not Sherrod.

    It is also notable the head-spinning speed at which she was out. I just foud that alone gave me a passing strange gut feeling, and I wonder if there is a reason for that that is currently unspoken as of yet.

    And BTW, the NAACP will rue the day the blew their own foot off up to the thigh when they attacked the Tea Party, via racial hucksterism, on despicably unfounded allegations that everyone can see a mile away for what they are. They will regret it, and so will the President on whose behalf they launched the attacks.

  28. The need a Czar Of What Our Story Is.

    And I can’t figure out what she meant–I’m still working on what she said.

  29. Every tree in the USDA forest is falling for this colossally insensitive act of shame by Iowa’s Uncle Tom. The progressives shudder at the collapse of the coalition by most accurate political cruise missile since Monica Lewinsky. The Big Lie remained unanswered by counterfire from a vigilant White House, so this friendly fire incident has wedged the whole enterprise, congressional victories notwithstanding.

    Your watch, Joe.

  30. Andrew X,

    The focus on Sherrod should not be a surprise. Stop me if you’ve heard this before…

    “It was just one employee at one office…”

    Breitbart already could have surmised what they would do–throw the first person under the bus, and hope this all goes away.

    I’m just wondering at this point if he knew about the settlement Sherrod and her husband had received on the lawsuit she had against the USDA shortly before her appointment to the USDA.

    As for the “farmer” in question, could someone please tell me if this farmer’s wife is someone from Sherrod’s time at the USDA or 24 years ago, as these stories aren’t adding up at all.

  31. Did Brietbart misfire? This incident was 20 years ago when the woman worked for a nonprofit. She helped the farmer in the end very well, according to subsequent reports. Was the tape doctored? Did Brietbart leave off the woman saying how she overcame her prejudice and all that? [I don't know if she said that in the speech, but Brietbart should not have excluded that if she did say so.]

    But I get the aim at NAACP, yet this lady may have been treated unfairly.

  32. @Peggy #34 the tape does include her “conversion” narrative, how she was a racist and refused to do all she could to help that white farmer, handing him over to “one of his own,” on the basis of his race (this is a crime, btw), and how she subsequently realized that she shouldn’t be a racist, that she shouldn’t be focused on the way that blacks were treated, that CLASS was a better divisive issue, a way to unite the workers of the world. Whatever, she’s a racist willing to put aside her distaste for white people .. . if they are sufficiently poor and can be manipulated by the Marxist/communist/progressive leaders who want to destroy America. Six of one . . . .

  33. Jack @#27 – Sherrod never mentions the name of the white farmer she discriminated against in this particular event. Any statements by the “wife” in question are highly suspicious, since surely Sherrod dealt with more than one white farmer during her career.

  34. No, Barbara S. We only PAY for it! Who knew that piggy banks were white?

  35. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9NcCa_KjXk

    Watch it all.

    Call me a conservative/libertarian/anti-liberal who doesn’t appreciate the ignorant slanders against this woman.

    C’mon conservatives, do we want to appear STUPID and DISHONEST?

    I don’t.

    The only thing Breitbart can be credited for, here, is in showing the Obama administration to be willing to scapegoat this woman summarily without regard to truth. But in doing so, Breitbart himself was playing fast and loose.

    BTW, her remarks about the powerful dividing white trash from slaves to keep them from uniting against economic oppression is not far from the mark. Whether she personally is Marxist or not, it’s wrong for conservatives to discount classist manipulation by the ruling class following reconstruction — especially inasmuch as tea parties are the prime locus of speaking of “the political class” nowadays. There’s more common ground between the tea party and conservatives and the Black community than folks on both sides think — and THAT’s the shame. It would require very little to unite conservatives and Blacks. I’ve long been amazed that both sides seem hell-bent on preventing something that seems like a natural opportunity for rapprochement.

  36. Yes, she did deserve to be fired. In fact, she should never have been hired. She and her husband got 13 million dolars of our money. Paid for from the con job of paying farmers not to plant certain crops. I knew a farmer who became independently wealthy from these subsidies over the years and left hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash to his heirs. He sure didn’t get this money farming. Farming doesn’t pay that well. She got this job shortly after this lawsuit was settled. It was a pay-off of some kind. In her speech she was telling the NAACP crowd how she got back at whitey and they ate it up.

  37. Everyone seems to have missed the fact that Sherrod 1. helped the white couple save their farm, 2. they’ve spoken up for how much she helped them, and how they’ve been friends ever since, 3. that she did not work for a government agency those 24 years ago, and 4. that the article about her and the edited tape were intentionally misleading. Hope all you hateful folks enjoy being minorities within the next 20 years.

  38. rasqual

    You are right that there are some blacks who have joined the tea party movement and have the same beliefs as the people of that movement. They are to be respected and honored as true patriots. But there are other blacks who will have their hands out and take anything offered for any reason or for any purpose. These are people like Sherrod who have already had their hands in the till and robbed it to a fair thee well. 90% of the blacks still support Obama and his policies. What does that tell you about them? Jackson, Sharpton and NAACP have whipped up hatred and anger in the blacks against the whites for years and it is all coming to a head.

    I can tell you that in my experience blacks, in the south at least, hate us. In my job I bent over backwards to be fair to everybody but was accused time after time of favoring the white employees over the black employees. What they really meant was that I was unwilling to bend or break the rules for them.

    The blacks thought when Obama was elected that they were now in the cat bird seat and would rule over whitey. It is not turning out that way on the surface but give it time. Obama has set all this in motion and Sherrod’s little speech might have been the monkey wrench in the works. There is a reason why the Obama administration moved so fast to fire this womand and shut her up. Thankfully, it didn’t work and she didn’t shut up and things are coming to the surface and to the public now. Just remember the New Black Panther guy whom the DOJ dropped off the hook and the whistleblower who said he heard Jennifer Fernandez say the DOJ would not prosecute caes involving blacks agains whites. Obama hates us just as these blacks do. He listened to this garbage for twenty years and ate it up.

  39. BarbaraS, we’d probably agree on a lot of things but you’re Stuck on Stupid with this. Listen to yourself: “Wasn’t there some question…. Weren’t there more people…. What, they gave them money anyway…. Sounds like….”

    Conservatism with integrity doesn’t reach conclusions by asking a series of rhetorical questions and then lending a “sounds like” inference the weight of certainty.

    I dunno about you. I want conservatism and libertarian opposition to big government to win because its ideas are right — not because conservatives are willing to reflexively rush to judgment while ignoring evidence, just to “win.”

    Screw that. I want to succeed because conservatism and libertarian ideals are right — not because conservatives and libertarians have an existential axe to grind with anyone they rightly oppose.

  40. My last remark, BarbaraS: listen to yourself. You’re generalizing about a class: “The blacks thought….” from a standpoint of sentential or propositional logic, you’re predicating something of all blacks, just there. You really, really need to either speak more carefully or come to terms with whatever in your past leads you to generalize about a race that way. I’m NOT calling you a racist. But be careful, think carefully, and weigh evidence well outside your own experience.

    Hey, I’m from Obama’s lame state. And I’ve lived in the South. I have my experiences too — and they’ve taught me to be CAREFUL. We all should be.

    Best to you.

  41. cases involving whites against blacks was the corrected version.

  42. Rasqual

    If you would look at my post, you would see that I did not lump all blacks together and say they were all alike. I said some of them were patriotic and some have their hands out. I am not a racist but neither am I a fool. I worked with these people for decades and know them very well. Mainly, because they told me all about it. You say you lived in the south. You evidently did not work with blacks while you were there. A lot of them have a chip on their shoulders a mile wide and find discrimination where it doesn’t exist. As I said, I enforced the rules regardless what color the employee was. The whites mostly respected that. Only some of the blacks respected that. The rest wanted special treatment. It would make me happy if we could all get along. I would love it if there were no discriminations between the races. I want all Americans to be just that…Americans. But, I will say that the dims have driven a wedge between all of us by giving one race all the freebies while denying the other race the same. Of course, in my opinion, the government should not be giving anybody any freebies. That is not their job.

  43. Rasqual

    There were 3000 original litigants. That number swelled to 16,000. There were more litigants that there were farmers. Why is that so difficult to understand. Why are you blasting at me for pointing this out. Besides, my point was never because these were black litigants. I would be of the same opinion if they were white. The farmer in my story above was white. I am totally against paying any farmer not to grow certain crops.

  44. They should have pressured her to resign – she is a disgrace, but Obama is too stupid to figure out that not pressuring her to resign is a bad thing.

  45. National Review writer looked at the full speech. She talked about how she was once racist and had since reformed and helped this farmer and all farmers regardless of race. Whatever her flaws, racism does not appear to be one of them. [Admittedly, the recent lawsuit settlement may be an issue, but that's not why she was fired or what Brietbart was after.] Brietbart should have looked into this more. He jumped the gun.

    http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OWU0Y2ZlYzcwYmRlZjQ1MmQzMDdmYmQ4NWY2MTMyMjE=

  46. She claims that she was called on her cell, told to pull off to the side of the road, and resign on the spot. Wow, it’s scary how Zero has his goons everywhere at any moment. Sing, baby, sing!!!

  47. Watching the whole video, it’s clear that this woman did nothing wrong. Conservatives should say so, and thank God, many are–Beck and Krauthammer, certainly, and one of the bloggers at National Review. I think all honorable conservatives have a duty to repair the damage to this innocent woman’s reputation. Just because dishonorable leftists smear conservatives with unfair charges of racism doesn’t mean conservatives should stoop this low.

  48. J Hunt Morgan, I couldn’t have put it better myself. I’ve listen to the full recorded speech, and the CNN interviews, and this woman is obviously out of her depth being in that position. I’m mean what an embarrassment. Let’s stop filling such slots via of some misbegotten guilt and start demanding due quality. That goes for our shoe shopaholic former Sec. of State. Down with Affirmative Action, EEOE, and all such forms of discrimination against intelligence.

  49. Thoguth this needed to be repeated from above so more people see it:
    …………………………………………..
    they want it to go away
    July 20th, 2010 | 4:23 pm | #6
    Well looky here. It appears the big O wants it to go away:
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/Examiner-Opinion-Zone/Shirley-Sherrods-Disappearing-Act-Not-So-Fast-98846149.html
    Ms. Sherrod’s previous background, the circumstances surrounding her hiring, and the USDA’s agenda may all play a part in explaining her sudden departure from the agency. These matters have not received much scrutiny to this point.

    An announcement of Ms. Sherrod’s July 2009 appointment to her USDA position at ruraldevelopment.org gives off quite a few clues:

    RDLN Graduate and Board Vice Chair Shirley Sherrod was appointed Georgia Director for Rural Development by Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack on July 25. Only days earlier, she learned that New Communities, a group she founded with her husband and other families (see below) has won a thirteen million dollar settlement in the minority farmers law suit Pigford vs Vilsack.

    What?

    Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/Examiner-Opinion-Zone/Shirley-Sherrods-Disappearing-Act-Not-So-Fast-98846149.html#ixzz0uGQNrkU8

  50. After watching the entire speech, my opinion of the matter has changed. Whatever may have happened in her life, it is apparent that she is not a racist. She should not have resigned.
    Interesting to note that she was called, told to pull over and resign. That was just wrong.

  51. Even informal discourse analysis on an intuitive level would suggest upon first hearing of even the edited Breitbart instance that what she was saying was part of a narrative, not a smug shared chuckle of besting whitey.

    What bothers me is how reflexively so many folk failed to pick up on that, leaping to opinions they PREFERRED to believe about her.

    We can do better.

    Also, in fairness to Breitbart her firing wasn’t his fault. His target was the NAACP. And it’s possible enough that he’s as surprised as anyone at how quickly the NAACP and the administration condemned her and fired her in near panic. That’s like a bonus for Breitbart.

    This is a crazy year in America. A crazy last few years. How much weirder can it get?

  52. JIM: Invite this woman to speak at a Tea Party.

    I’m dead serious.

    She ought to be a hero to anyone who’s tired of the political class.

  53. If Sherrod’s so innocent, as many here state, why did she resign so quickly? Something smells.

  54. B Keeley, the former Sec. of State (Ms. Rice, I assume) earned her Ph.D. in Russian history–not one of the easier fields of study. She built her academic and government career through disciplined work and by gaining the confidence of people around her.

    One can debate whether she was the best possible person to be Sec. of State, but she was probably more qualified than Hillary Clinton–and unquestionably more qualified for the post than Obummer and Biden are for theirs. She also is not someone addicted to wielding power over others.

    Smearing her as a “shoe shopaholic” AA hire is grossly unfair.

  55. UPDATE!!!!

    GLENN BECK has a DIFFERENT VERSION OF EVENTS that SUPPORTS SHIRLEY SHERROD and thinks the NAACP set her up I THINK to frame the Conservatives, ahead of the August 28th event in DC.

    PLEASE GO GET HIS TALK ABOUT THIS!

    HE SAYS SOMETHING IS ROTTEN IN DENMARK!!! AND HE MAKES A GREAT CASE!
    This event happened 24 years ago and Ms. Sherrod and the White Farmers have been good friends ever since! AND THE WHOLE TAPE IS NOT RELEASED – the Speech was in MARCH and the NAACP REFUSES to release the entire TAPE so her story is IN CONTEXT WITH THE END OF IT INCLUDED!

    NAACP now says THEY want to study the whole tape and will release a NEW STATEMENT.

    Remember the Boston Black Professor and the White Cop? Looks like Odrama Queen is trying to set up the Conservatives, him, and the Tea Party.

    NO CONSERVATIVES BROKE THIS STORY – it was broke by NAACP and White House.

  56. WHAT IS THE WHITE HOUSE SUDDENLY ANXIOUS TO DISTRACT FROM, IN ORDER TO ACCUSE CONSERVATIVES OF MORE RACISM????

  57. Rose
    July 21st, 2010 | 1:51 am | #59

    Beck’s version of events is incorrect. The NAACP didn’t release the tape in two parts; Breitbart did.

  58. The post is titled “Vilsack Stands Behind His Decision to Fire Racist NAACP Speaker Shirley Sherrod …Update: White House Says They Did Not Pressure Sherrod”

    Next time, leave out the insulting adjective, “racist”. It’s insulting to your readers. And irritating. Let us come to that conclusion after listening to her words. It’s quite likely we will.

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