The Pope Gets It About Radical Islam… But Team Obama Still Lost Confused
Posted by Jim Hoft on Sunday, June 6, 2010, 11:41 AM
Pope Benedict XVI wrote about the dangers of radical Islam during his trip to Cyprus.
YNet News reported:
Pope Benedict XVI ends his visit to Cyprus on Sunday with his eyes to the Middle East, giving bishops from the troubled region the working paper for a synod to be held on the plight of Christians, ecumenism and inter-faith dialogue.
“Extremist (Islamic) currents, clearly a threat to everyone, Christians and Muslims alike, require a treatment in common,” he said.
What a shame that the brilliant elitists in the Obama Administration still don’t get it.
It’s just unbelievable that this administration is so lost to the real threats facing this country.
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Kenny Solomon commented:
Radical Islamists are people who live and let live…… believe that killing in the name of God is abhorrent……. respect women and girls…….. don’t and won’t lie, cheat and misinform to get their way……..
That’s radical, because ‘in-the-name-of-God’ killing non-believers who won’t convert or submit is documented in their so-called religion’s teachings and tenets.
Kenny Solomon
Jew.
American.
Heavily armed.
Never again means NEVER AGAIN !
Molon Labe.
Joe College commented:
As I mentioned on a prior thread, you can go to http://www.cnn.com/ and scroll down a bit and vote in an opinion poll on whether there should be a mosque built near Ground Zero.
iconoclast commented:
POTD!
shibumi commented:
I don’t think Obama is confused at all. I think they are on the same side as the Islamists.
There’s a difference.
Stuart commented:
Bit by bit the veil gets lifted and the people can see what kind of radicals are now in charge.
They would be a lot more dangerous if they were competent. Thank God they’re not.
No Confusion Here commented:
Reverend Wright is Muslim (look it up).
Black Liberation Theology is based in Marxism.
Barack Obama and his family listened to Wright for 1000 Sundays.
No one is confused. They’re being who they are – Muslim Marxists.
Which wouldn’t be a problem, except they’re running (runing) America.
Andreas K. commented:
Nope, he doesn’t get it. He’s making the erroneous distinction that there is something like “radical islam”. There is no such thing. Islam in itself is radical.
I suggest people watch the interview leftist hack Michael Coren has done with Bat Ye’or and former-mohammedan-now-Christian Sam Salomon. The five videos can be found here: http://tinyurl.com/2wywss9
The intolerance of islam is part of islam.
And the pope is pushing for what again? Dialogue. Dialogue, that has UTTERLY FAILED.
Dialogue in German is “Dialog.” The anti-islamization scene in Germany calls this inter-faith dialogue nonsense “Dialüg”, a word play on “Dialog”, implying that it’s all just lies anyway and can’t be trusted. And so far the word play is simply the truth. Inter-faith dialogue is a lie.
bg commented:
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Top Takes on National Security
[We have taken major steps backward in the past year [,] too many to mention here. While the Obama administration wastes its time striking the words “Islam,” “Islamic,” “Islamist” and “Jihadist” from the government lexicon, the Jihadists continue to virally spread their unopposed narrative that “American society, government, and media are against Islam and against Muslims.”]
bg @ #27/31/36/45/51/52
bg @ #12/13/14
and much more here..
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bg commented:
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re: bg #10
ie: ISNA
[According to Sufi leader Sheikh Muhammad Hisham Kabbani’s testimony before a State Department Open Forum on January 7, 1999, extremists have taken over “more than 80 percent of the mosques in the United States ... This means that the ideology of extremism has been spread to
80 percent of the Muslim population, mostly the youth and the new generation.” Kabbani based his statement on his personal investigation of 114 American mosques. “Ninety of them,” he said, “were mostly exposed, and I say exposed, to extreme or radical ideology, based on their speeches, books and board members.” This is largely due to the efforts of ISNA.]
Dr. M. Zuhdi Jasser has warned US about ISNA, CAIR & many
other Islamic organizations which have been functioning rather
well w/in the OA..
[Time will reveal the details of the story of these five Muslims. In the meantime, we cannot allow our collective intelligence as a nation to be insulted. Radicalization of American Muslims is real and the root cause is political Islam and its separatist, supremacist teachings. Until Muslims can reform our ideas against the growing power of the Islamist movement, homegrown terror will only increase. Now over eight years since 9/11, the Islamist narrative is growing with hardly a measurable war of ideas within the Islamic consciousness promoting liberty over Islamism, freedom over theocracy, and one secular law over Sharia law.]
much more @ links via #10..
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Ed Wallis commented:
God bless Pope Benedict XVI.
I raise a glass of “Papst-Bier” (Brauerei Weideneder Tann) to him.
bg commented:
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ie re: bg #10
Cordoba Mosque at 9/11 Ground Zero Symbolizes
Dreams of Invasion & Territorial Expansion 5/10
[Taher called upon the American administration to ban the building of mosques, and especially the Cordoba Mosque, planned for construction near Ground Zero in New York, because, he says, these mosques pose a danger to the security of the U.S. as they are centers for spreading extremist and terrorist ideas.
Following is a translation of excerpts from the article:
"In these days, the issue of the Muslim decision to build a mosque near the place where the crime of the cowardly September 11 terrorist attacks took place has come up. We must note that a hostile and provocative name [Cordoba] has been chosen for this mosque. It is well known that the first Cordoba Mosque was built by Muslims in a city in Spain, after they occupied this Christian country, killing its men and capturing its women to bring them to Arab countries as slaves and servants to serve their sexual pleasure. The Arabs and Muslims have never ceased to take pride and bask in the glory of this imperialist history, which they consider to be a symbol of their strength and power, and they are unashamed of the fact that the annals [of their history] are full of shameful crimes.
“Today, it seems as though some Muslims in America are enamored of the dream of bringing back this ugly imperialist Muslim history, which is based on occupying peaceful peoples, on trying to force them to change their religious beliefs by the sword, on killing the men, and on abducting the women from their homes and bringing them to their own countries. Choosing the name ‘Cordoba House’ for the mosque to be constructed in New York was not coincidental or random and innocent. It bears within it significance and dreams of expansion and invasion [into the territory] of the other, [while] striving to change his religion and to subjugate him…
“New York has many mosques, for Sunnis and for Shiites. Of course there is a significant infiltration of extremist terrorist ideology among some of the Sunnis, and likewise there is a significant infiltration of the Iranian intelligence [apparatus] among some of the Shi’ites. This infiltration, both among the Sunnis and among the Shi’ites, has spread across the U.S. New York State has many mosques, and doesn’t need any more of them – not to mention that for work reasons Muslims do not attend mosque every day, but only on Saturdays and Sundays. Therefore, the Muslims have no real need for the construction of this mosque, which constitutes a provocation against the sensibilities of the Americans and a reminder for them of the Muslim imperialism in Spain and of the acts it committed against the Christians – such as murder, pillage, taking captives, and aggression against women.
“As a Muslim and as an American citizen, I hope that the U.S. government will issue a decision to confiscate the funds designated for the construction of this mosque, and to transfer them to a budget for rebuilding the towers
of the World Trade Center in New York, [and also to] ban the building of [additional] mosques in the U.S., because there is no real need for them. Also, [we must] take into account the danger that they [i.e. the mosques] pose because they are hothouses for extremist terrorist ideology and for hatred of the other, and because they carry out open missionary activities considered a violation of the freedom and religion of others.”]
he’s far from being the only Muslim who has been warning US about the Muslim Brotherhood (an Obama ally) intent to infiltrate every aspect of democratic societies and to take over from within.. and i must say they’ve been quite successful, especially here in the US.. /truth sarc/
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reliapundit commented:
Jim;
You are a wonderful blogger and a great Catholic booster; but the Vatican under PB16 absolutely doesn’t get it.
Today, they blamed Christian exodus from The Holy Land on “the Israeli-Arab Conflict”.
That’s Asinine.
Christians have been fleeing the Holy Lanbd for 100 years!
The late Dr, Michael DeBakey was a Lebanese Christian whose parents escaped religious persecution just after the turn of the 19th Century – 40 before there was an Israel.
PB16 gave a great speech at Regensberg but since then has been half-assed about global jihad.
BTW: I am a Jew.
But I know that the concept of papal infallibility is only 150 years old.
It is NOT apostolic.
SO I don’t think believers in Jesus should buy it.
PB16′s Vatican is now officially a purveyor of the false moral equivalence.
Sobieski would not have fought to defend such an amoral Church.
ALSO: PB16 has FAILED utterly to awaken the Church in Europe – as the great PJP2 did.
As a result, Europe is slipping faster and faster into Islam.
Sorry if this hurts you Jim.
It’s the truth.
Catholics must demand more from their Church.
On this – and the sex abuse front.
All the Best!
Left Coast Conservative commented:
#14 – PBI6 does get it. He understands what is at stake. He gets it – but the question for all Catholics is – are you listening? He is calling for repentance, prayer, fasting – are you doing it? PJPII called for the same thing – are you doing it?
And, to correct an error – papal infallibility does not declare that the pope is infallible – it does declare that he is infallible in teachings related to morals and doctrine. This directly relates to the passage that says “the gates of hell shall not prevail”.
chili palmer commented:
They absolutely know. Per Rep. Steve King, 5/28, “The ACLU, SEIU, and the Muslim-American Society are calling the shots at the Justice Department” they dictate policy at the White House and Justice Dept. This isn’t confusion, it is treason. Why isn’t every member of congress, R and D screaming about this?
bg commented:
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Andreas K. @ 1:14 pm #9
and as you quite well know, i disagree as much as
i agree with you, and once held the same opinion..
the thing for me is.. there are many Muslims who do not recognize radical Islam.. iow: even if you are 100% correct, 100% of Muslims do not believe the same things as radical Islamists do.. many not only abhor and detest radical Islam, but have been strongly speaking out against Political Islam aka: Sharia Law, which they consider to be the enemy of civilization.. you cannot say: you’re religion is (fitb) and expect them to turn on a dime thank you for saving them.. that’s just not going to happen, and the harder they’re pushed, the harder they push back.. so we need not only accept the things we can, but have the courage to change the things we can, and wisdom to know the difference.. that does not mean we surrender to Islam, it means we can only let them go so far before we either take a stand or lose the war.. a war which they have not only declared on US, but are winning by leaps & bounds since we put their Mahdi Obama in the drivers seat and we took a back seat..
just a sample:
‘They Need to Be Liberated From Their God’
Son of Hamas Founder Condemns Islam
“For 12 long years I lived within the narrow-minded confines of the ‘straightjacket world’ created by my strong belief that Elijah Muhammad was a messenger direct from God Himself, and my faith in what I now see to be a pseudo-religious philosophy that he preaches…. I shall never rest until I have undone the harm I did to so many well-meaning, innocent Negroes who through my own evangelistic zeal now believe in him even more fanatically and more blindly than I did.”
~ Malcolm X
Symposium: The World’s Most Wanted: A “Moderate Islam”
[I agree with Dr. Furnish that there are some elements of reform that already exist in the Muslim world; however, these elements of reform do not have a complete theological interpretation or jurisprudence that can stand against the current and dominant Salafi teaching within Islam.
My main point is that, what people generally mean as Islam (Tafseer, Hadith, Sira, Jurisprudence, Sharia) is certainly not peaceful. However, peaceful understanding of the religion is possible. Moderate Muslims such as Jasser and others do exist because they do not practice the traditional dominant theology and alternatively they have developed their own personal interpretations for the religion. Until these personal interpretations become the mainstream type of teaching within Islam, I have to agree with Robert Spencer that moderate Islam does not exist. I will only change his phrase to be “moderate Islam does not currently exist.”]
much more here
and pray tell, what should the POPE CALL FOR.. A HOLY WAR??
too late, RADICAL ISLAMISTS have done did that at least twice..
but hey.. if anyone knows how to re-write history via omitting their own, it’s the Islamists (like there being no record of Obama, while he pisses on “we the people” and tells US it’s raining).. so i’m certain the POPE will be nailed for the ISLAMIC HOLY WAR that was declared on US / WEST sooner or later anyways..
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Feeney commented:
The Pope knows full well the dangers of Islam. But he is also obligated to treat ALL people with charity. If you want him to behave like some angry conservative blogger, that’s not going to happen. He stands for Truth, not angry partisanship.
bg commented:
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B Hussein O has every intention of laying the foundations for the wedding of church/mosque and state (eventually, the church will be eliminated from the scene in much the same manner it has in every other Christian “converted”
to Islamic country)..
What is Sharia Law?
Islamic Sharia Law in the USA
Harold Koh Confirmed
“I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth”
my individual salvation is not gonna come about
without a collective salvation for the country [..]
‘We are God’s partners in matters of life and death’
A COVENANT FOR A NEW AMERICA
["At a press conference on December 1... the possible Presidential contender said, '...the network that Saddleback has helped to create has as much reach as any institutional force in our culture and has probably a wider reach around the world than just about anything that's going on right now.... I hope one of the things that comes out of this conference that Pastor Rick has emphasized again and again, is no single branch of our society is going do this alone. If government thinks they can do it by themselves they're wrong. Churches have to recognize that they've got to be partners with the government. Business has an enormous role....]
UCC member Sen. Barack Obama discusses faith and politics
[Later -- during his interview with United Church News -- Obama continued his thoughts about religion and politics; specifically, the role of religious principles in reaching a balance between national security and social justice concerns.
"I believe that democracy demands that the religiously motivated translate their concerns into universal values," Obama said. "Social justice and national security are both universal values, values that may originate for some in their religious beliefs, but are shared by us all."]
Miss Mogahed appeared alongside Hizb ut Tahrir’s
national women’s officer, Nazreen Nawaz.
During the 45-minute discussion, on the Islam Channel programme Muslimah Dilemma earlier this week, the two members of the group
made repeated attacks on secular “man-made law,” and the West’s
“lethal cocktail of liberty and capitalism”.
They called for Sharia Law to be “the source of legislation” and said
that women should not be “permitted to hold a position of leadership
in government”.]
Obama Advisor Says Sharia Law ‘Misunderstood’ by West
[And, of course, there was the bizarre claim by Mr. Obama during Ramadan that the contribution of Moslems to the United States are “too long to catalog because Muslims are so interwoven into the fabric of our communities and our country.”
[..]
The specter of Islam is haunting the Obama administration, a specter summoned by the President himself. How have we come to the point
when a presidential advisor can sit by, with apparent tacit agreement
with unabashedly ‘anti-freedom’ Islamic ideology, and remain within
the administration?
Every day that the President tolerates such an advocate of the system of sharia law to remain among his advisors further undermines whatever credibility he still retains. Mr. Obama took an oath: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
Islamic radicals are making it pretty clear that
they are opposed to such “man-made laws.]
there are no so blind as those who not
see, nor so deaf who refuse to listen..
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reliapundit commented:
feeney wrote:
The Pope knows full well the dangers of Islam. But he is also obligated to treat ALL people with charity. If you want him to behave like some angry conservative blogger, that’s not going to happen. He stands for Truth, not angry partisanship.
THIS IS PURE DEFENSIVENESS AND NOT RESPONSIVE TO MY COMMENT.
The Vatican said today that Christians are leaving thew Holy Land because of the Israeli-Arab conflict blaming both equally.
THIS IS NOT MORAL OR TRUE.
The Pope should be leading the cause against jihadism.
Christians are persecuted in Iraq, Egypt, the so-called West Bank, and Lebanon and Turkey.
NOT BY JEWS OR ISRAELIS OR ZIONISTS.
A big priest was murdered in Turkey last week.
And this Pope plays the moral equivalence game
Pity.
Catholics deserve better.
Christianity deserves better.
mvh commented:
Holder’s one of those sissies who garners no respect. And since he can’t influence others, he becomes a lawyer so he can get compliance through force of law.
The one chance he has to show leadership, and thus gain respect, he blows it by not stating the truth.
bg commented:
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reliapundit @ 5:45 pm #20
lets try to keep things in context..
Pope says Middle East conflict driving out Christians
[The Vatican has warned that conflict in the Middle East
has driven thousands of Christians out of the region.
Pope Benedict has ended a visit to Cyprus by calling for an end to bloodshed in the Middle East and highlighting the plight of Christians there.
He called for urgent efforts to resolve the region's
conflicts before they cause even further bloodshed.
A paper released by the Vatican to coincide with his visit says the Israel-Palestinian conflict, the war in Iraq, and instability in Lebanon have forced thousands of Christians to flee the region.
It also cites the rise of extremist Islam as a threat to Christians
and says the international community is ignoring their plight.
The Catholic Church will hold a crisis summit
of Middle East bishops in Rome in October.]
every word is true..
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UpChuck.Liberals commented:
Islam encourages their followers to lie, cheat, steal and murder to further the goals of Islam’s enslavement. Christianity teaches to help other and to be kind to those less fortunate so that they may willingly come to Christ. As a Christian, I’m more than willing to help Muslims see the light ….. permanently.
donh commented:
I second that God Bless the Pope. As the world cowers in weak appeasement to the ugly islamic barbarian , a Holy man of courage has spoken a treatment for truth.
reliapundit commented:
Thanks for posting that bg.
That’s what I think is “NOT GETTING IT”.
Pope JP2 would not have been so timid – he wasn’t when it came to the USSR.
Christians in the Holy Land are persecuted by MUSLIMS, not Israelis or Jews.
Did the Vatican issue a statement after the last priest in Turkey was MURDERED for being Christian!?!?
Nope.
Was that priest murdered because of the Israeli-Arab Conflict!?!
Nope.
Here’s a report about what PB16 said:
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65323D20100604
PAPHOS Cyprus (Reuters) – Pope Benedict said on Friday the killing of a leading Catholic bishop in Turkey should not be allowed to hurt dialogue with Islam or stain the image of Turkey and its people.
World | Turkey
The pope, beginning a three-day visit to the divided island of Cyprus, also told reporters aboard his plane that he hoped the Israeli raid on a Gaza-bound humanitarian flotilla would not result in lost hope for Middle East peace.
Benedict spoke of his “profound sadness” over the stabbing Thursday of Italian Bishop Luigi Padovese, a leading Catholic official in Turkey, who was killed by his Turkish driver.
“We are still awaiting a full explanation but we don’t want to mix up this tragic episode with Islam. It is a case apart which saddens us but should not be allowed to darken the dialogue (with Islam) in any way,” Benedict said.
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That’s a load a dhimmi mush.The Pope is every bit as dhimmi-ish as Obama.
This Pope is not doing everything a great would do and should do.
Not every Pope does.
Since Regensberg this Pope has been an ineffective protector of the faith.
The RC Church and Christianity in Europe desperately needs a Pope more like PJP2.
indigo commented:
reliapundit: You are all over the place,your incoherent rants might go over big at a Jimmy Swaggert rally but they are based on ignorance of Catholicism. If the Pope came out and advocated confrontation with Islam what do you think would happen to the remaining Christians in the Middle East?The Pope has to be sober and reflective unlike a poster on a blog.
bg commented:
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reliapundit @ 10:45 pm #25
sorry to say, but i believe you’re
)
the one who’s not getting it..
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reliapundit commented:
bg;
people who excuse one person of behavior they admonish in others are hypocrites.
bg: you and jin hoft have criticized false moral equivalence innumerable times but seem to excuse the pope when he commits it.
this is hypocrisy.
the pope cannot blame the bishop’s murder in the israeli-arab conflict.
the pope has not defended Catholics or Christians who are being murdered around the holy land and middle east.
instead, the pope talks of the conflict as if it were a nationalistic battle.
it is not.
it is global jihad.
it is a pity this pope cannot see the battle for what it is or speak out as he did ONCE about it – in regensberg.
papal infallibility is a 150 year old church concept. it is not in the Bible.
this pope is failing his church and his flock.
the pope and the church has been rightly criticized for how they handled the sex abuse cases around the world over the last several decades.
the pope has responded to this criticism.
the pope should be criticized for his weak dhimmi-esque response to global jihad.
and he should respond.
i find it sad and pitiable that Catholics blindly follow a pope who is so obviously failing them and their faith.
THIS IS WHAT THE POPE SAID ABOUT THE BISHOP’S MURDER.
REPEAT: MURDER:
Benedict spoke of his “profound sadness” over the stabbing Thursday of Italian Bishop Luigi Padovese, a leading Catholic official in Turkey, who was killed by his Turkish driver.
“We are still awaiting a full explanation but we don’t want to mix up this tragic episode with Islam.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65323D20100604
THAT’S FREAKIN ASININE AND IT MEANS THIS POPE IS A DHIMMI.
sorry if it hurts.
the truth often does.
our president is not above criticism.
no human is.
REPEAT: no human is above criticism.
The Lord shall judge us all.
Carbon Monoxide commented:
If you don’t think the Christians in Israel are not persecuted by the Israeli government, you are sadly misinformed. I know too many who have grown up in Israel and left specifically because of the feeling of being between a hammer and an anvil.
Catholics pray. We don’t kill. It works. 250 million converts in the last 25 years, mostly in Africa and in Moslem areas.
bg commented:
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reliapundit @ 5:30 am | #28
those are you opinions &
you’re welcome to them..
i disagree..
hurts??
don’t think so..
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bg commented:
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uhg re: bg #30
are you opinions = are your opinions
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bg commented:
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Carbon Monoxide @ 8:22 am #29
Christian Persecution in Israel
they’re almost as bad as their Islamist counterparts..
re: [by the Israeli government]
do you have anything that backs that up??
thanks..
‘They Need to Be Liberated From Their God’
["The problem is not in Muslims," he continues. "The problem is with their God. They need to be liberated from their God. He is their biggest enemy. It has been 1,400 years they have been lied to."]
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bg commented:
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re: bg #32
Carbon Monoxide @ 8:22 am #29
the reason i ask for proof is because we have Islamists connected to the 9/11 attacks building the largest mosque in NYC on hallowed ground, hence could easily state our Government supports our enemy, not to mention employ it..
re: bg @ 2:53 pm #13
i see the Obama’s minders have already gone
on the attack against this most revealing link:
Cordoba Mosque at 9/11 Ground Zero Symbolizes
Dreams of Invasion & Territorial Expansion 5/10
[Taher called upon the American administration to ban the building of mosques, and especially the Cordoba Mosque, planned for construction near Ground Zero in New York, because, he says, these mosques pose a danger to the security of the U.S. as they are centers for spreading extremist and terrorist ideas.]
(i suggest copy, paste & file away for safe keeping)
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